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Brodie, I live around the corner, from the power district site, where the ballpark and district is. They just started clearing the old ABH truck terminal last week. They are taking out the last of the concrete pad this week. Next door is the old abandoned hotel, that's going to come down soon. This group is moving right along, wasting no time prepping the site.
What I love about your channel is the in-depth discussions about sports-related things that don't make the daily news cycle. The behind-the-scenes view of the bigger picture things.
It's honestly amazing. As a resident, it's been thrilling. Utah is a huge baseball state too. I live in Spanish Fork, UT, and for a while, we held the guinness record for most little league baseball teams per capita in the world. We have fans of many teams here, but just like with Utah Hockey, we'll come together and show up for the home team. Such a blast
As someone that’s never been to Utah but wants to visit, I think it’s awesome. Salt like seems to be developing like crazy from what I’ve seen and that’s great. I’d definitely want to visit, I like the more conservative, quiet, and outdoorsy culture that Utah has.
@@camk6847 i love it. moved here 15 yrs ago and could never go anywhere else. the amount of natural beauty from the south of the state to the north is absolutely unreal. and the people here are super nice. i spend a lot of time in nature and out of the city, but it has something for everyone for sure
It is insane to think about how far Salt Lake City has come in such a short amount of time. I used to live a couple blocks away from the area known now as the "power district". One of the most crime-ridden areas of town when I was living there. To see the renderings and to hear how much money is being pumped - both publicly from the state and privately from Larry H Miller group - into revitalizing that part of town is truly remarkable, especially when you take into account how much money is already being pumped into downtown Salt Lake around Delta Center to revitalize that part of town. This is going to be a - no pun intended - game changer for Utah as a whole over the next eight years as they get ready for the Olympics in 2034.
except it isn't revitalizing the delta center area. it will completely demolish lots of it including what's left of japan town, the convention center, the contemporary art museum, and abravanel hall.
Just bought a house this week that’s within 5-10 minutes of the Delta Center and this proposed baseball site. Knowing this is coming certainly influenced my decision on location
Hey Brodie! this Utahn thinks you’re the best and wishes you and your family the merriest of Christmases. Go Utah! Also, the Salt Lake Bees just had a great rebrand this offseason, and I pray that if We get an MLB team, we keep the Bees name and logo.
As a diehard lifelong A's fan who moved from San Ramon to Salt Lake City 2 years ago - A's ending up in a brand new ballpark in SLC instead of Vegas would be unreal Brodie if that happens - Utah is beautiful come join the party!
I like Utah “Continentals”… sounds old timey which I think is perfect for a baseball team. The locomotive theme would be fire merchandise as well for a state revered as “The Crossroads of the West.”
Ryan Smith was proactive with The NHL and worked within that system to make NHL hockey in Salt Lake happen. Utah has $900 million for an MLB stadium at the ready. Utah baseball is making the right moves. There are so many variables beyond Utah's control. MLB expansion is a big "we don't know." Tampa, The A's and more are so influx and we have no idea of the final picture. I have learned that I can do everything to my best and stuff just does not work. That is quite possible for Utah baseball.
If the league ever decides to grow the sport then in my personal opinion Salt Lake is definitely happening my concerns are about Nashville as I would love them to land a team any team!!!
Brodie, love your video's! As a long-term Coyote season ticket holder it kills me to see "my team" with Utah on the jersey. But greatly respect the work the state has done.....well run by every measure. Rays or A's will end here long-term and when NFL is looking for expansion markets Utah is certain to get a long look.
Brody - would love to hear a breakdown of the potential new Commanders stadium and how it is intersecting with the old RFK and the current federal spending bill.
Ooh, Salt Lake City is sooo much more alluring than Las Vegas. LOL! If Vegas doesn't get a team I'm going to be so disappointed. Maybe both cities could get a team and we'd have a new rival.. the Sinners vs. the Saints.
As a Utahn who spent many years in Las Vegas, I'd qualify for both fanbases. That's a goddamn lie, I'm a sinner through and through. But I like the rivalry theory. (I already hated the Golden Knights, so that one was a piece of cake.)
Definitely can’t expand with current state of a lot of teams in the league. But 100% Utah/slc are going to end up snagging a relocation of any of the franchises in dire straits right now. Rays, athletics, diamondbacks, white sox.
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jack has a confession THE NUMBER 32! is magic it would complete & double the liz taylor movie love is better than ever original 16 team era a spectacular acomplishment for the sport! keep the reports coming
The Miller Group and the state of Utah has gone about this the smart way. It has quietly got its ducks in a row so if an MLB team becomes available either via relocation or expansion literally everything needed is ready to go immediately. Unlike in other situations where it’s a lot of bluster and maybes. I also suspect the Miller Group has been quietly in contact with MLB behind the scenes and has probably touched base with teams like the A’s, White Sox, Rays, and even the Diamondbacks just to explore possibilities and let them know they’re ready to make a deal if the situation is ripe.
Brodie, I live right around the corner, from the Power District site. They started demolishing the old abandoned ABH truck freight terminal last week, and are taking out the old concrete pad right now. The old hotel, adjacent, is ready to be leveled any time now. They have lots of signage surrounding the property along Redwood Road, detailing sketches of the new ballpark. They are moving right along, not wasting any time. If you want puctures of it, lmk.
According to an article on KSL, the deal "includes an opt-out clause should Salt Lake City incentivize a current MLB owner to relocate to Utah's capital over the first 10 years of the deal, as well as two five-year extensions to the clause." So does this mean that the deal is only for the Miller Group? Would a relocating team not qualify for the $900 million? Maybe the only way a team can relocate is if an owner sells the team to the Miller Group? Or am I reading that opt-out clause wrong?
I think that's the general idea. That $900 million wasn't offered to John Fisher. Any hard luck team would have to be sold to LHM or other Utah-based entity first. People overlook that. If it were for any team and any owner, a team would've moved there already...
Would it be crazy to see the Angels leave Orange County and head to Utah? They wouldn’t be competing with Dodgers or Padres and would be the only show in town.
Tampa should move to Omaha temporary and complete the move to Utah when the new stadium is complete. Lets face it a new stadium in St Pete beside the current one is not gonna fix the attendance issues of the Rays.
Sounds like a page from the St Petersburg attempt to land a team in the 90s. A team in Salt Lake would be well supported and I'd expect there is a growth plan in play too.
Just don’t understand why baseball would ever expand when the economics of baseball are so broken. Does baseball really need more farm teams for the Yankees Red Sox dodgers giants and Mets
It's all ownership dependent. The Padres and Royals are spending, but the Marlins and A's are terrible. There needs to be changes for sure, and that change needs to focus on owners.
I've noticed that Utah has their act together and gets it done. They are like that head of class student everyone hates lol Utah is now a much much much different place than it was 30+ years ago
I like to see the A's move there that way they stay in the west; the White Sox could go there but that would be on the outer limits of American league central but moving out of the Chicago South side seems wrong they have a long history there, but Utah might spend more money on players and build a champion faster.
Most likely Utah and Nashvilll or Memphis but why ? All they are doing is adding more small and mid market teams that will have no chance against the big spenders. PS they need to edit the bell to say all HOME games of course they play other games on the road.
Salt Lake City and Nashville are the 26th and 27th largest markets (respectively.) Open markets ahead of them? Orlando (16) Sacramento (20) Charlotte (21) Raleigh (22) Portland (23) Indianapolis (25) I think we can all agree that MLB isn't going to expand a 3rd team to Florida. If you're not expanding to one of the above cities, where else are you going to? Personally, I think Austin, TX would be a fantastic location for a team and they're currently the 35th largest market.
Interesting location choice. That area currently is an industrial wasteland, adding a ballpark to it and new housing developments could help turn it around...awfully ambitious though.
I just want teams that move to rebrand. I like what the Browns did when they left for Baltimore. To me, the A’s history belongs in Oakland- and I’m a from Milwaukee.
I really believe the White Sox are going to end up moving if they get sold. Id like to see them in Rhode Island or New Hamlshire, so the sox are right next to eachother, but thats not going to happen 😂
Get ready for the Utah Athletics. They sure aren't going to Vegas. Vegas is more valuable as an expansion market. Then again, Manfred isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Las Vegas has their deal together already and shovels go in the ground in April . Fisher showed he has the money to get it done using his own families money and will look for investors also ..They are coming to Las Vegas even though most people don’t want them and want an expansion team ..
As someone who lives in Utah and has talked to many people and listened to KSL Sports - Utah would LOVE to have the A's (as the A's!), they don't demand an expansion team like Vegas does. A's to Utah and a rival expansion team in Vegas would be ideal
As a born and raised Utahn and enormous baseball fan, I'm all-in on this. But as a boring, stick-in-the-mud, wet blanket pragmatist, I'm a little leery. I can't tell you why because even *I* don't know! (All I DO know is I hate that the Bees are leaving the city for the 'burbs. I've been going to ballgames there since it was Derks Field. Smith's Ballpark is quite possibly the prettiest ballpark in the minors, but that is neither here nor there.)
Or the Chi Sox relocate since Chicago cannot support 2 MLB teams. Right now the Chisox are a dead team in a terrible crime ridden city. Adios Chicago and Illinois.
Nashville isn’t getting a team. Too many issues. The Sounds helped pays for their stadium there and have a long term lease. Nashville has to buy them out for at least $100M and it could be higher. Then they have to spend $1 billion on a stadium after building the new Titans stadium. Many politicians lost their jobs over that one. Charlotte is in the same boat. Long term lease with the AAA team that will cost a lot of money to break and a ton being spent on a football stadium. On the east coast, Raleigh will get the baseball team. It has the highest median income of any market that does not have MLB. It has invested in transit. It already has an owner attached. I would bet SLC and Raleigh will be the expansion cities if the A’s finalize in Las Vegas and the Rays finish their St Pete deal.
@@ryanstevens2722Chicago is never moving out of that area to a smaller TV market. Chicago is the 3 biggest after NY and LA. They have the best local TV deal of anyone not named the Yankees. They just don’t have good ownership. People need to think about the TV markets, teams get a lot of revenue they don’t share with local TV money. It’s not all put in a pot like the NFL or NBA. Each team has their own local rights deal.
@@MrMac1138Technically the Sounds would not have to move. The Astros, Twins, and Braves have minor league affiliates in their own metro area. Now whether that would be wise to have both a minor league and major league team in the same city would be a fair question.
If SLC gets a team, what kind of team will it be? One that spends to pick up free agents in the off-season and puts a competitive team on the field. Or a team like the A's or Pirates that spend half of the league payroll average and are glorified Minor League Clubs?
I just have one question Don't Major league baseball teams travel to other cities and play games so would these requirements mean that the Utah baseball team if we got a baseball team could only play in salt lake City they could not travel to say oh LA and play the dodgers or the San Francisco area and play the Giants or do your can play the Mets I think this is kind of an odd requirement either that or you did not clearly explain what that means. Could that mean that they could not play a game say it BYU could they not play a game at St George against a team it is kind of very very vague
As absolutely asinine as it sounds, the Sunday thing is true. It's a damn shame, too, because I live next to the U of U campus and game days are phenomenal. Provo goes off for BYU, too. I genuinely think an NFL team would do better here than an MLB team, but who knows. (Incidentally, I LOVE baseball and couldn't give less of a damn about football, for whatever that's worth.)
You hit the nail on the head. The taxpayers of Utah will pay to have an MLB team in Salt Lake City. The Coyotes moved because Tempe voters wouldn't pay for a hockey arena. The owners want the public to pay for their stadium. Also the Utah legislature didn't ask the voters for approval for a tax increase.
Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, and Pittsburgh would scrounge up enough "no" votes to make sure Columbus isn't an option. Also, what has anyone done to make the case for Columbus? Brodie laid out what Utah has done.
@vamoscruceros I guess you're probably right about the votes and I don't really know what Columbus has actually done to get a team, or if they even want one, but it's just strange to me it's the largest city in Ohio, but it only has one team compared to Cincinnatis two and Clevelands three.
Being in Kansas City, and a longtime Royals season ticketholder, of course my fear is that the Royals are in play. Their lease of Kauffman stadium expires after the 2029 season. About two years ago, the team brought in an inspector to essentially condem the stadium ruling it unsafe. Then a bond measure for a downtown stadium in Kansas City MO failed miserably at the polls. But long before that, the Mayor and other local politicians complained that the Royals seemed to have no interest in discussing a replacement for Kauffman, in spite of their effort to condem the stadium. Now the Kansas side has expressed interest in the team, moving it about 10 miles to the former Sprint campus, but this would be funded with "Star Bonds", which are generally considered worthless. All the while the Royals still have one of the lowest attendence numbers, even as they ramp up thier player budget to make a World Series contender team for years to come. Here are some sad facts, when I moved here from Los Angeles as a child, Kansas City had the Royals, the Kings (who were the Cincinatti Royals and had to change their name), the Scouts NHL team (now the Denver Avalanche), and of course the Chiefs. At our peak in 1980, Kansas City was the number 19 media market, now we are below 40. Of course the Kings and Scouts are long gone, the Chiefs have revenue sharing. At one point in the late 90s The Kansas City Royals MLB franchise had a total value of less than $300 million. Now the Royals are owned by a group of people, the city continues to lose corporate employers on the Missouri side. Hell we even had all of Applebees restaurants close about a month ago, and they started in Kansas City. By contrast Omaha is considered one of the best places to live, and climate change will make it more and more appealing. Few people remember this, but the Kansas City Kings were orginally the Kansas City / Omaha Kings. The White Sox will likely not move, but I would still say that team is worth at least double that of the Royals, and Chicogians are very sentimental, and will almost certainly find a way to keep the team there. My guess is that sometime around the 2027 winter meetings, the Royals will announce it's intention to move, after the Rays attendence in Omaha will exceed the Royals. Nashville is geographically close to St Louis, probably the best baseball town outside of New England. And Nashville has so much organic growth, I think a baseball team will end up there no matter what.
Wrong! The Kansas City Scouts are the New Jersey Devils now. The Colorado Avalanche was formerly the Quebec Nordiques. The Devils were also known as the Colorado Rockies before the name was given to the baseball team.
Brodie, you said, "one or two more expansion teams". At first I thought an odd # would mean every 15 series with 15 vs 15 a team would have a 3 day bye. Every 15 series. That will not work because they would have 9 days to the length of the season or reduce the games played by 9. So 153 games. Owner would lose 4-5 home games =$$ lost. I was intrigued, but at first glance it won't work, right?
I feel like the MLB should probably figure out where the 30 teams they have will be playing before expanding. Though the NHL expanded twice with the Coyotes debacle hanging over their heads. That said I want to see how all the legislation was written, because even if the A's (it would probably be them) decide that where they're going won't work (the holdups in Vegas prove too much) and go to SLC, a new stadium would still take 2-3 years to build, By then it'll be 2027-28 at the earliest and new elected officials will be in place.
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Brodie, I live around the corner, from the power district site, where the ballpark and district is. They just started clearing the old ABH truck terminal last week. They are taking out the last of the concrete pad this week. Next door is the old abandoned hotel, that's going to come down soon. This group is moving right along, wasting no time prepping the site.
What I love about your channel is the in-depth discussions about sports-related things that don't make the daily news cycle. The behind-the-scenes view of the bigger picture things.
Something I been wanting for years 🥲
Does Utah want the A’s? Yes. Does Utah want the A’s ownership group? Absolutely not.
Utah will not take an outside ownership group. We only trust our own. It will be the Miller group as owners without exception
They’ll have no choice and worse is he will refuse to sell
No one wants the A's ownership group. Them and the Angels run neck and neck as far as horror show owners.
It's honestly amazing. As a resident, it's been thrilling. Utah is a huge baseball state too. I live in Spanish Fork, UT, and for a while, we held the guinness record for most little league baseball teams per capita in the world. We have fans of many teams here, but just like with Utah Hockey, we'll come together and show up for the home team. Such a blast
As someone that’s never been to Utah but wants to visit, I think it’s awesome. Salt like seems to be developing like crazy from what I’ve seen and that’s great. I’d definitely want to visit, I like the more conservative, quiet, and outdoorsy culture that Utah has.
I hope you get a team?
Typo on the question mark!
@@camk6847 i love it. moved here 15 yrs ago and could never go anywhere else. the amount of natural beauty from the south of the state to the north is absolutely unreal. and the people here are super nice. i spend a lot of time in nature and out of the city, but it has something for everyone for sure
It is insane to think about how far Salt Lake City has come in such a short amount of time. I used to live a couple blocks away from the area known now as the "power district". One of the most crime-ridden areas of town when I was living there. To see the renderings and to hear how much money is being pumped - both publicly from the state and privately from Larry H Miller group - into revitalizing that part of town is truly remarkable, especially when you take into account how much money is already being pumped into downtown Salt Lake around Delta Center to revitalize that part of town. This is going to be a - no pun intended - game changer for Utah as a whole over the next eight years as they get ready for the Olympics in 2034.
except it isn't revitalizing the delta center area. it will completely demolish lots of it including what's left of japan town, the convention center, the contemporary art museum, and abravanel hall.
@LukeLamoreaux-eg7cy completely rebuild then
Just bought a house this week that’s within 5-10 minutes of the Delta Center and this proposed baseball site. Knowing this is coming certainly influenced my decision on location
Hey Brodie! this Utahn thinks you’re the best and wishes you and your family the merriest of Christmases. Go Utah!
Also, the Salt Lake Bees just had a great rebrand this offseason, and I pray that if We get an MLB team, we keep the Bees name and logo.
Relax
Utah: Give us your poor, your tired, your down on their luck sports franchises yearning for an entertainment district.
lol pretty much
You should copyright that man that's brilliant
No one will believe me but...The Utah Athletics would not surprise me.
it's not entirely impossible as of right now
They are moving to Vegas. Vegas gets it done.
Las Vegas is putting shovels in the ground in April .. Fisher already showed he has the funds ..Las Vegas is a done deal
As a diehard lifelong A's fan who moved from San Ramon to Salt Lake City 2 years ago -
A's ending up in a brand new ballpark in SLC instead of Vegas would be unreal
Brodie if that happens - Utah is beautiful come join the party!
@@dmvtrax645..but you have the Fish who needs all the help he can get.
MLB needs to expand. It’s stagnant right now. Please come to Utah so I can dump the Angels as my team
Or better yet, Arte sells to the Millers and the Angels move here. Pipe dream, I know.
Utah Outlaws would make sense as an mlb expansion team
Utah Friendly Mormons
I like Utah “Continentals”… sounds old timey which I think is perfect for a baseball team. The locomotive theme would be fire merchandise as well for a state revered as “The Crossroads of the West.”
The Milwaukee Brewers inked a lease extension until 2050! Yeah.
The thought of Major league baseball in Utah has me excited. I would definitely be a season ticket holder.
Idk anybody in Utah excited for baseball
@@Area52-uhcI am and so is my son and also quite a few of my employees.
@@Area52-uhc You must not know that many people on Utah then.
Ryan Smith was proactive with The NHL and worked within that system to make NHL hockey in Salt Lake happen.
Utah has $900 million for an MLB stadium at the ready. Utah baseball is making the right moves. There are so many variables beyond Utah's control. MLB expansion is a big "we don't know." Tampa, The A's and more are so influx and we have no idea of the final picture.
I have learned that I can do everything to my best and stuff just does not work. That is quite possible for Utah baseball.
Royals, Angels, Dbacks, and White Sox have stadium issues
Brodie: THE authority on the Utah Sports economy.
If the league ever decides to grow the sport then in my personal opinion Salt Lake is definitely happening my concerns are about Nashville as I would love them to land a team any team!!!
Brodie, love your video's! As a long-term Coyote season ticket holder it kills me to see "my team" with Utah on the jersey. But greatly respect the work the state has done.....well run by every measure. Rays or A's will end here long-term and when NFL is looking for expansion markets Utah is certain to get a long look.
College football is too big in Utah, I believe. It will be many years before NFL is considered.
@@jeremyhelquist - Utah can always apply for a UFL team.
Brody - would love to hear a breakdown of the potential new Commanders stadium and how it is intersecting with the old RFK and the current federal spending bill.
Drove by the old Ramada Inn the other day and Larry Miller RealEstate has setup shop, ready to get to work!!!!
Ooh, Salt Lake City is sooo much more alluring than Las Vegas. LOL! If Vegas doesn't get a team I'm going to be so disappointed. Maybe both cities could get a team and we'd have a new rival.. the Sinners vs. the Saints.
As a Utahn who spent many years in Las Vegas, I'd qualify for both fanbases.
That's a goddamn lie, I'm a sinner through and through.
But I like the rivalry theory. (I already hated the Golden Knights, so that one was a piece of cake.)
Definitely can’t expand with current state of a lot of teams in the league. But 100% Utah/slc are going to end up snagging a relocation of any of the franchises in dire straits right now. Rays, athletics, diamondbacks, white sox.
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Huh. North Temple has a light rail line on it, too.
Yes, it does!
Utah Saltines of Salt Lake City
jack has a confession THE NUMBER 32! is magic it would complete & double the liz taylor movie love is better than ever original 16 team era a spectacular acomplishment for the sport! keep the reports coming
Quality reporting.
The Miller Group and the state of Utah has gone about this the smart way. It has quietly got its ducks in a row so if an MLB team becomes available either via relocation or expansion literally everything needed is ready to go immediately. Unlike in other situations where it’s a lot of bluster and maybes. I also suspect the Miller Group has been quietly in contact with MLB behind the scenes and has probably touched base with teams like the A’s, White Sox, Rays, and even the Diamondbacks just to explore possibilities and let them know they’re ready to make a deal if the situation is ripe.
Great breakdown, Brodie!
Brodie, I live right around the corner, from the Power District site. They started demolishing the old abandoned ABH truck freight terminal last week, and are taking out the old concrete pad right now. The old hotel, adjacent, is ready to be leveled any time now. They have lots of signage surrounding the property along Redwood Road, detailing sketches of the new ballpark. They are moving right along, not wasting any time. If you want puctures of it, lmk.
According to an article on KSL, the deal "includes an opt-out clause should Salt Lake City incentivize a current MLB owner to relocate to Utah's capital over the first 10 years of the deal, as well as two five-year extensions to the clause." So does this mean that the deal is only for the Miller Group? Would a relocating team not qualify for the $900 million? Maybe the only way a team can relocate is if an owner sells the team to the Miller Group? Or am I reading that opt-out clause wrong?
I think that's the general idea. That $900 million wasn't offered to John Fisher. Any hard luck team would have to be sold to LHM or other Utah-based entity first. People overlook that. If it were for any team and any owner, a team would've moved there already...
I’ve understood it the same way
Yeti might be in logo or masct but have heard there are issues with using yeti for name bc of Yeti the company
Would it be crazy to see the Angels leave Orange County and head to Utah? They wouldn’t be competing with Dodgers or Padres and would be the only show in town.
Utah is the better spot for baseball.
The answer is YES!
It’s comparatively easy to negotiate when there’s no counterparty. I’m not sure an existing owner is going to want to sign a lease for a stadium.
Does the population center size make sense economically from an owner perspective in Utah?
It’s a couple of million people within about 30-45 minute drive
@@adellelo956Which basically makes it comparable to the Cincinnati metro area.
Tampa should move to Omaha temporary and complete the move to Utah when the new stadium is complete. Lets face it a new stadium in St Pete beside the current one is not gonna fix the attendance issues of the Rays.
Sounds like a page from the St Petersburg attempt to land a team in the 90s. A team in Salt Lake would be well supported and I'd expect there is a growth plan in play too.
Just don’t understand why baseball would ever expand when the economics of baseball are so broken. Does baseball really need more farm teams for the Yankees Red Sox dodgers giants and Mets
It's all ownership dependent. The Padres and Royals are spending, but the Marlins and A's are terrible. There needs to be changes for sure, and that change needs to focus on owners.
50/50 that the Rays wind up in Utah.
SLC seems like the best spot for MLB expansion. However MLB has a history of dragging its feet in terms of relocation or expansion.
Bring it on!! We are ready!!
Utah is a different kind of place. We get it done, and we do it right.
@@JumpmanJames no you don’t.
@dmvtrax645 We're more prepared than anyone else in the country. What you got? Nothin.
@ That’s why you don’t have an nfl and mlb team right? Utah working to fix the race issue toward black athletes?
I've noticed that Utah has their act together and gets it done. They are like that head of class student everyone hates lol
Utah is now a much much much different place than it was 30+ years ago
Yeah you’re a transplant 🙄
If the As move to Salt Lake, they’d be the first franchise to play in four time zones, right?
Would like to see more renderings of the proposed stadium... is that a glass canopy? Don't understand that one
I don't understand how a small city in a small state can have soo much when there are cities much bigger.
There's not going to be any expansion in baseball for 10 years
Utah definitely going to be at the front of the line now
I like to see the A's move there that way they stay in the west; the White Sox could go there but that would be on the outer limits of American league central but moving out of the Chicago South side seems wrong they have a long history there, but Utah might spend more money on players and build a champion faster.
Most likely Utah and Nashvilll or Memphis but why ? All they are doing is adding more small and mid market teams that will have no chance against the big spenders. PS they need to edit the bell to say all HOME games of course they play other games on the road.
Salt Lake City and Nashville are the 26th and 27th largest markets (respectively.)
Open markets ahead of them?
Orlando (16)
Sacramento (20)
Charlotte (21)
Raleigh (22)
Portland (23)
Indianapolis (25)
I think we can all agree that MLB isn't going to expand a 3rd team to Florida.
If you're not expanding to one of the above cities, where else are you going to? Personally, I think Austin, TX would be a fantastic location for a team and they're currently the 35th largest market.
I hope they use a new team name. I like Utah Pioneers or Utah Settlers.
According to Brodie, MLB is a great investment. There should be a long line of owners and markets to buy franchises. Well, where are they?
The Rays plan B? Wouldn't surprise me
Man the site is going to be very small between Redwood Rd and North Temple so it is going to be in a small corner at the intersection.
Utah Rays of Sun ☀️
Interesting location choice. That area currently is an industrial wasteland, adding a ballpark to it and new housing developments could help turn it around...awfully ambitious though.
We’ll see what Utah does
I just want teams that move to rebrand. I like what the Browns did when they left for Baltimore. To me, the A’s history belongs in Oakland- and I’m a from Milwaukee.
I really believe the White Sox are going to end up moving if they get sold. Id like to see them in Rhode Island or New Hamlshire, so the sox are right next to eachother, but thats not going to happen 😂
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it happens🤞
Apparently the city of Boringville has entered the chat
I wonder how many people move from Oakland to SLC vs from SLC to Oakland
i MUST suggest second expansion market san antonio austin
Get ready for the Utah Athletics. They sure aren't going to Vegas. Vegas is more valuable as an expansion market. Then again, Manfred isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
They’re moving Vegas. Vegas is a better for market for sports anyway. No pro athlete wants to live in that racist state.
@@supercalo2000 yes they are.
Las Vegas has their deal together already and shovels go in the ground in April . Fisher showed he has the money to get it done using his own families money and will look for investors also ..They are coming to Las Vegas even though most people don’t want them and want an expansion team ..
As someone who lives in Utah and has talked to many people and listened to KSL Sports - Utah would LOVE to have the A's (as the A's!), they don't demand an expansion team like Vegas does. A's to Utah and a rival expansion team in Vegas would be ideal
@@GravityFalloutPines it’s not happening.A’s turned u down for Sacramento’s ballpark.
Got a lot of homeless people to move out of this area if Utah is going to get a team. This part of Salt Lake is rough and needs a lot of work.
Better than Las Vegas
Why do I have a feeling the Arizona Diamondbacks are about to move to Utah as their lease expires in 2027 and are looking for a stadium.
Yeah Arizonans would love Utahns even more if that happened 😂
Build a retractable roof stadium.
Hope it happens.
As a born and raised Utahn and enormous baseball fan, I'm all-in on this.
But as a boring, stick-in-the-mud, wet blanket pragmatist, I'm a little leery. I can't tell you why because even *I* don't know!
(All I DO know is I hate that the Bees are leaving the city for the 'burbs. I've been going to ballgames there since it was Derks Field. Smith's Ballpark is quite possibly the prettiest ballpark in the minors, but that is neither here nor there.)
Is there an NFL team with an expiring stadium lease who could come to Utah?
Plot twist: A’s move to Salt Lake City, Rays move to Orlando and Las Vegas and Nashville get expansion teams.
Or the Chi Sox relocate since Chicago cannot support 2 MLB teams. Right now the Chisox are a dead team in a terrible crime ridden city. Adios Chicago and Illinois.
@@ryanstevens2722 - You sound like a Cubs fan.
Nashville isn’t getting a team. Too many issues. The Sounds helped pays for their stadium there and have a long term lease. Nashville has to buy them out for at least $100M and it could be higher. Then they have to spend $1 billion on a stadium after building the new Titans stadium. Many politicians lost their jobs over that one.
Charlotte is in the same boat. Long term lease with the AAA team that will cost a lot of money to break and a ton being spent on a football stadium.
On the east coast, Raleigh will get the baseball team. It has the highest median income of any market that does not have MLB. It has invested in transit. It already has an owner attached.
I would bet SLC and Raleigh will be the expansion cities if the A’s finalize in Las Vegas and the Rays finish their St Pete deal.
@@ryanstevens2722Chicago is never moving out of that area to a smaller TV market. Chicago is the 3 biggest after NY and LA. They have the best local TV deal of anyone not named the Yankees. They just don’t have good ownership. People need to think about the TV markets, teams get a lot of revenue they don’t share with local TV money. It’s not all put in a pot like the NFL or NBA. Each team has their own local rights deal.
@@MrMac1138Technically the Sounds would not have to move. The Astros, Twins, and Braves have minor league affiliates in their own metro area.
Now whether that would be wise to have both a minor league and major league team in the same city would be a fair question.
If SLC gets a team, what kind of team will it be? One that spends to pick up free agents in the off-season and puts a competitive team on the field. Or a team like the A's or Pirates that spend half of the league payroll average and are glorified Minor League Clubs?
I just have one question Don't Major league baseball teams travel to other cities and play games so would these requirements mean that the Utah baseball team if we got a baseball team could only play in salt lake City they could not travel to say oh LA and play the dodgers or the San Francisco area and play the Giants or do your can play the Mets I think this is kind of an odd requirement either that or you did not clearly explain what that means. Could that mean that they could not play a game say it BYU could they not play a game at St George against a team it is kind of very very vague
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If Utah is looking for an MLB team for a stadium, why not also add an NFL team for the same stadium?
Sundays. Even the Jazz and UHC barely ever play home games on Sundays.
As absolutely asinine as it sounds, the Sunday thing is true. It's a damn shame, too, because I live next to the U of U campus and game days are phenomenal. Provo goes off for BYU, too. I genuinely think an NFL team would do better here than an MLB team, but who knows. (Incidentally, I LOVE baseball and couldn't give less of a damn about football, for whatever that's worth.)
@@adellelo956 Sunday RSL games were so sparse, I think they might have nixed them altogether.
You hit the nail on the head. The taxpayers of Utah will pay to have an MLB team in Salt Lake City. The Coyotes moved because Tempe voters wouldn't pay for a hockey arena. The owners want the public to pay for their stadium. Also the Utah legislature didn't ask the voters for approval for a tax increase.
I love Vegas, but I would love it even more if the A's went to Utah. Vegas doesn't sound this prepared.
Interesting.
I can totally see the Rays swooping in on this.
Or the A's if Vegas doesn't work out.
@@Phatooine absolutely, though I think if Sacramento has a good showing, they may give them the first shot at it.
@@trclark7689 Sacramento needs to be serious about wanting the A's which they have not shown yet.
It's amazing that Utah is basically ready for a team while Las Vegas, Tampa and Chicago can't get their act together.
For Vegas, they don't trust the A’s and I wouldn't either
Tampa got their act together. It’s all on the Rays owner now.
Having lived in Utah my whole life and been to all the others. It doesn’t surprise me at all
@@BOB_983and I doubt Stu will turn now. It’s about if the Rays can afford their share of the deal.
Always be prepared, just in case.
There ya go Rays!
Possible team name for the MLB team in Utah: the Utah River Otters? I don't know, it's hard to think of a good team name
Im surprised Columbus isn't trying for an MLB team, but maybe they think Ohio is too small for a third team.
Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, and Pittsburgh would scrounge up enough "no" votes to make sure Columbus isn't an option. Also, what has anyone done to make the case for Columbus? Brodie laid out what Utah has done.
@vamoscruceros I guess you're probably right about the votes and I don't really know what Columbus has actually done to get a team, or if they even want one, but it's just strange to me it's the largest city in Ohio, but it only has one team compared to Cincinnatis two and Clevelands three.
The A’s will end up there. Vegas is full of transients, SLC is full of families. WAY more of a baseball city. Way more.
didn't buffalo build a stadium for a future mlb team only to be given a aaa team?
Being in Kansas City, and a longtime Royals season ticketholder, of course my fear is that the Royals are in play. Their lease of Kauffman stadium expires after the 2029 season. About two years ago, the team brought in an inspector to essentially condem the stadium ruling it unsafe. Then a bond measure for a downtown stadium in Kansas City MO failed miserably at the polls. But long before that, the Mayor and other local politicians complained that the Royals seemed to have no interest in discussing a replacement for Kauffman, in spite of their effort to condem the stadium. Now the Kansas side has expressed interest in the team, moving it about 10 miles to the former Sprint campus, but this would be funded with "Star Bonds", which are generally considered worthless. All the while the Royals still have one of the lowest attendence numbers, even as they ramp up thier player budget to make a World Series contender team for years to come.
Here are some sad facts, when I moved here from Los Angeles as a child, Kansas City had the Royals, the Kings (who were the Cincinatti Royals and had to change their name), the Scouts NHL team (now the Denver Avalanche), and of course the Chiefs.
At our peak in 1980, Kansas City was the number 19 media market, now we are below 40. Of course the Kings and Scouts are long gone, the Chiefs have revenue sharing. At one point in the late 90s The Kansas City Royals MLB franchise had a total value of less than $300 million.
Now the Royals are owned by a group of people, the city continues to lose corporate employers on the Missouri side. Hell we even had all of Applebees restaurants close about a month ago, and they started in Kansas City.
By contrast Omaha is considered one of the best places to live, and climate change will make it more and more appealing. Few people remember this, but the Kansas City Kings were orginally the Kansas City / Omaha Kings.
The White Sox will likely not move, but I would still say that team is worth at least double that of the Royals, and Chicogians are very sentimental, and will almost certainly find a way to keep the team there. My guess is that sometime around the 2027 winter meetings, the Royals will announce it's intention to move, after the Rays attendence in Omaha will exceed the Royals.
Nashville is geographically close to St Louis, probably the best baseball town outside of New England. And Nashville has so much organic growth, I think a baseball team will end up there no matter what.
Wrong! The Kansas City Scouts are the New Jersey Devils now. The Colorado Avalanche was formerly the Quebec Nordiques. The Devils were also known as the Colorado Rockies before the name was given to the baseball team.
The mayor of Nashville no longer thinks that. Billions being spent on the Titans new domed stadium.
Interesting take. One nitpick: the Scouts moved to Denver as the Colorado Rockies and a couple of years later to suburban NYC as the NJ Devils.
@@JonDoe-ln6nlThe Rockies played 6 seasons in Denver
I'm not sure the LArry H Miller Group is a business group one should be affiliated with.
Why not?
Could be cool
Utah would be more suitable for a MLB expansion team to play there.
Brodie, you said, "one or two more expansion teams". At first I thought an odd # would mean every 15 series with 15 vs 15 a team would have a 3 day bye. Every 15 series. That will not work because they would have 9 days to the length of the season or reduce the games played by 9. So 153 games. Owner would lose 4-5 home games =$$ lost. I was intrigued, but at first glance it won't work, right?
Can’t add just one team. Baseball needs two due to scheduling gaps, more than anything else
candlestick park-style wind baffles ring the upper tank
Utah Outlaws!
Tampa Bay Brodie is ripe for a move.
If you build it. They will come.
Salt Lake makes so much more sense than Vegas for the A's in my opinion.
I feel like the MLB should probably figure out where the 30 teams they have will be playing before expanding. Though the NHL expanded twice with the Coyotes debacle hanging over their heads. That said I want to see how all the legislation was written, because even if the A's (it would probably be them) decide that where they're going won't work (the holdups in Vegas prove too much) and go to SLC, a new stadium would still take 2-3 years to build, By then it'll be 2027-28 at the earliest and new elected officials will be in place.
I heard Austin is also looking for a team
If you build it, they will come
Are residents allowed to go to baseball games in Utah?
No. We congregate at your mom’s house to watch the games.