Wow, this actually seems to be the only video that actually shows the tank, the filter and all the other features - and you're doing it in a nice way, without any blabla, keeping it neat and under 8 minutes! Thank you very much!
I just hate the 57 mm crap. The Anna PID would be perfect but it's 57 mm. Glenda is an Anna with 58 mm but it only comes with either PID or pressure gauge. Grace is a Victoria with slightly smaller boiler and 57 mm again. So you end up having to get the Victoria for 200 bucks more than the Grace and double the Anna just for PID, press gauge and 58 mm...
@@221b-l3t I fully agree with you and came to the same conclusion. I would be happy with the Anna if it had standard portafilter. I guess it's one of the ways to ensure you buy the more expensive model if you really need all the "standard" stuff
@@221b-l3t Compared to Anna, the Victoria also has 50ml bigger boiler, automatic boiler filling after steaming, shot timer, pre-infusion, automatic shutdown and 58mm filter. The price difference is not even double, its like 40%
One key feature is the automatic boiler fill. I love this especially unique for a single boiler machine which prevents burning out the heating element.
How do one burn out the heating element? Is it when switching between shots and steam? I have a GC today and will soon upgrade to pl81t or this model... from what I see it is only the width of the portafilter differs between them both... am I wrong?
@@AzizIzgin Because when you steam your pump doesn't work, otherwise it would cool down the boiler, so you empty your boiler while you steam. Thats why its important to run water from steam nozzle after steaming. But not in victoria.
@@mohammedm2362 It's still going strong! Definitely has been a learning process - lot's of information out there on things like out-of-the-box pressure, along with processes to use it. I'm also a casual espresso user - I was using it daily for a while, but these days a few times a week. Has held up great in my opinion.
It is like comparing Motor Bike with a Car. Both deliver you to destination but the whole experience is different. MaraX cuma 1350 watt udah bagus banget dan bertahan lama banget setidaknya 6 tahun tdk perlu utk upgrade
@@StefanusGoana siap bang Stef. So, menurut abang tetep lebih worthed MaraX ya Bang compare to victoria? Next month rencana begitu tabungan ngumpul pengen order soalnya.. haha... btw, saya cari2 kok niche zero gak ada di storenya bang Stef?
Great presentation, I was inspired to have a Lelit Victoria. Still confused about Rancilio Silvia, according to Ace Home Barista which one is more appropriate for a beginner home barista like me?
If you are OK with temp surfing and the way too hot steam you should be good with the Silvia. I personally would hate to do the milk first and then have a rather slow routine with temp surfing to have consistency. To each their own but I am leaning towards saving up some more money and not worry about temperature or pressure and just enjoy the damn thing.
Yeah i guess they are trying to make it cheaper as MaraX is probably the cheapest HX machine made in Italy. To have it with LCC and even Paddle will certainly kill Bianca hahaha...
I just bought the Victoria PL91T. Unfortunately, the vibrations are so strong that it makes the brewing process difficult since cups just move on the machine grid. I contacted Lelit and this was their answer: “in the PL91T model the metal tray and the wire grid do not absorb the vibration of the pump, but transmit it and this can cause the displacement of the cups during the brewing process, especially in case of less heavy cups.” Well, stay away from PL91T and Lelit in general.
Hi.. I have a lelit Victoria for almost 6 months. I need help to find o-ring that belong to the steam tip.. looks when I try to clean the tip the o-ring gets loss. I saw your videos and you says the number of parts. I appreciate if you tell me that number !! Thanks in advance
Thank you so much for your well-informed video reviews. I have already watched some of them, including one you did on how to change the pump pressure in the Lelit Elizabeth. Do you know if you do it the same way in the Lelit Victoria? Thanks in advance for any information in this regard.
Hi Stefanus, I'm considering this as upgrade from my 1st generation Breville Infuser which has PID but it's not settable as us the 2nd generation Infuser. As you know the Infuser uses a thermalblock so cannot pull and steam simultaneously which I don't care cause I don't make many milk drinks just Americano. Would you consider the Lelit Victoria an upgrade from the Infuser?
Hi yes thermoblock technology is good as it able to heat up really fast however temperature stability is the issue. Victoria is using a 300ml brass boiler which able to help you with much better temperature stability. Also much powerful steam pressure to progress on your latte art skill.
The longer hose should be the one. If you remember it came with a water trap. Anyway i don't think you can get it wrong because the other hose seems to be too big.
@@deriansilva368 ok if water in your area is relatively hard then just flush out all water in boiler to replace with new fresh water that goes through your softener
@@AzizIzgin sorry PL81T Grace is with 57mm grouphead and 250ml boiler. PL91T is 58mm and 300ml boiler. I strongly suggest PL91T because 58mm accessories are widely available and you can use it for future upgrade, for example you purchase a 58mm bottomless portafilter so even if you upgrade to Lelit Bianca one day you can still use it
Hey Stefanus, thanks for the nice video! All informations a customer need included. Even though I bought the 81 (Grace), this was very interesting for me. If you make a video about the Grace too, this would be great. Greetings from Germany, stay healthy
Thanks for this informative video! Do you still recommend using the water softener if I'm using reverse osmosis water? Does the filter make the water more alkaline (soft) and is that helpful for RO water for better tasting espresso?
@@StefanusGoana I've heard the same about RO, but I also tried adding Third Wave Water packets to my water and did not notice a difference. My RO filter has a mineralization phase at the end, so maybe that's why... Makes sense the filter is really just a filter and not a 'water softener'. Thanks for getting back to me.
Is that 140 celsius or Fahrenheit? I'm guessing it's celsius as steam pressure needs to be, they say 212 F. Also how do you switch between water temp, steam temp, timer, and preinfusion?
Hv you pressed the middle button? After pressing middle button with steam icon next to it you hv to wai a minute then steam will build up. For hot water press third button or the bottom one then you can dispense hot water
Hi i'm a reseller of Lelit in Indonesia, so you can saya wholesale price. However after playing with 4 machines of Lelit i can feel the hefty price now
Wow, this actually seems to be the only video that actually shows the tank, the filter and all the other features - and you're doing it in a nice way, without any blabla, keeping it neat and under 8 minutes! Thank you very much!
I really like Lelit products, you get a lot of value for the money compared to other brands.
I just hate the 57 mm crap. The Anna PID would be perfect but it's 57 mm. Glenda is an Anna with 58 mm but it only comes with either PID or pressure gauge. Grace is a Victoria with slightly smaller boiler and 57 mm again. So you end up having to get the Victoria for 200 bucks more than the Grace and double the Anna just for PID, press gauge and 58 mm...
@@221b-l3t I fully agree with you and came to the same conclusion. I would be happy with the Anna if it had standard portafilter. I guess it's one of the ways to ensure you buy the more expensive model if you really need all the "standard" stuff
@@221b-l3t Compared to Anna, the Victoria also has 50ml bigger boiler, automatic boiler filling after steaming, shot timer, pre-infusion, automatic shutdown and 58mm filter. The price difference is not even double, its like 40%
One key feature is the automatic boiler fill. I love this especially unique for a single boiler machine which prevents burning out the heating element.
Thanksnfor highlighting this
yep thats huge
How do one burn out the heating element? Is it when switching between shots and steam? I have a GC today and will soon upgrade to pl81t or this model... from what I see it is only the width of the portafilter differs between them both... am I wrong?
@@AzizIzgin Because when you steam your pump doesn't work, otherwise it would cool down the boiler, so you empty your boiler while you steam. Thats why its important to run water from steam nozzle after steaming. But not in victoria.
I just received mine last night! Trying it out today! I'm super excited. I have a tiny, apartment kitchen and it fits perfectly.
I really wanna sell my gaggia classic, and step up to this one
Mine arrives today or tomorrow! Can't wait!
how did it do 3 years later
@@mohammedm2362 It's still going strong! Definitely has been a learning process - lot's of information out there on things like out-of-the-box pressure, along with processes to use it. I'm also a casual espresso user - I was using it daily for a while, but these days a few times a week. Has held up great in my opinion.
I want to see an espresso being pulled!
@@1967davidfitness plesse refer to other video in the PL92T playlist
@@StefanusGoana I am looking, you are a very accomplished passionate barista☕
Hi, thanks for detailed explanations. Can I adjust the bar pressure on this machine like ECM casa V does (adjustable bar pressure)
Yup for sure, you can find the how someone did it
Bang Stef, I would really love to see you comparing this machine with lelit Mara X.. pleaasee.. :)
It is like comparing Motor Bike with a Car. Both deliver you to destination but the whole experience is different. MaraX cuma 1350 watt udah bagus banget dan bertahan lama banget setidaknya 6 tahun tdk perlu utk upgrade
@@StefanusGoana siap bang Stef. So, menurut abang tetep lebih worthed MaraX ya Bang compare to victoria? Next month rencana begitu tabungan ngumpul pengen order soalnya.. haha... btw, saya cari2 kok niche zero gak ada di storenya bang Stef?
@@anasdwi NZ sold out. MaraX juga baru aja Sold out harus tunggu bulan Mei kayaknya
@@StefanusGoana wow.. laris manis....
ok bang, siap tunggu Mei.. haha..
Great presentation, I was inspired to have a Lelit Victoria. Still confused about Rancilio Silvia, according to Ace Home Barista which one is more appropriate for a beginner home barista like me?
If you are OK with temp surfing and the way too hot steam you should be good with the Silvia. I personally would hate to do the milk first and then have a rather slow routine with temp surfing to have consistency. To each their own but I am leaning towards saving up some more money and not worry about temperature or pressure and just enjoy the damn thing.
True. How can Marax not have the LCC?
Yeah i guess they are trying to make it cheaper as MaraX is probably the cheapest HX machine made in Italy. To have it with LCC and even Paddle will certainly kill Bianca hahaha...
Might be a design consideration as well, choosing not to spoil the Mara's classic look with digital displays...
Because MaraX has manual flow control lever?
I just bought the Victoria PL91T. Unfortunately, the vibrations are so strong that it makes the brewing process difficult since cups just move on the machine grid. I contacted Lelit and this was their answer: “in the PL91T model the metal tray and the wire grid do not absorb the vibration of the pump, but transmit it and this can cause the displacement of the cups during the brewing process, especially in case of less heavy cups.” Well, stay away from PL91T and Lelit in general.
Hi thanks for your information
Have read scales stop this.
question, is your machine connected to 230 V? or 120 V? if it is connected in 230 V.. is it possible to connect to 120 V, 60hz? Thank you!
Facebook group: "Lelit Victoria PL91T"!!!
Thats true
Could you open the steam wand to lower the pressure while brewing?
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Fun to play with, enjoy
@@StefanusGoana haha, i should click the video first before asking here.
hi, interesting machine. but, why each corner of drip tray is black on backside ?
Hi that is just welding finish not so perfect, however it will not make any different in taste rest assure
Hi Stefanus! Can you please tell me what is the Niche Zero sitting on top of in the last part of the video?
That is Lelit Drawer knockbox PLA360M
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@@StefanusGoana thank you!
Hi, would MaraX be a huge step up, or this machine is as almost as good, purely on coffee making, not steaming?
Hi if only for espresso, then this machine more than enough. It even comes with LCC, electronic preinfusion and faster heat up.
Go for it..👌👍
@@StefanusGoana yes, but still, doesnt that E61 group with computer controlled thermal stability improve nothing at all?
@@TheUnrevealer If MaraX comes with LCC probably less people would want to buy Bianca. It will at a certain point a good feature and good indication
hello, the pressure gauge does not move and its always 0. is this normal?
Try with a blind basket, if still doesn't move then it may need to be replaced
Hi.. I have a lelit Victoria for almost 6 months. I need help to find o-ring that belong to the steam tip.. looks when I try to clean the tip the o-ring gets loss. I saw your videos and you says the number of parts. I appreciate if you tell me that number !! Thanks in advance
problem is legit decided to use 57mm of instead of industry standard 58mm, send reslly that cheap as so called tamper?
Thank you so much for your well-informed video reviews. I have already watched some of them, including one you did on how to change the pump pressure in the Lelit Elizabeth. Do you know if you do it the same way in the Lelit Victoria? Thanks in advance for any information in this regard.
Hi Nelson here it is th-cam.com/video/KVtpmOQSrJQ/w-d-xo.html
Tank you!
Hey, how much time does this machine need to heat the boiler from the "cold" start?
Hi it takes about 15 minutes
Did you do the OPV mod? At what pressure does it brew out of the box?
Hi i recall it was around 12, i guess some Italian likes it that way and with their Italian roast LOL
@@StefanusGoana It's for the damn ECS pads. They need 11 bar minimum...
Hi Stefanus, I'm considering this as upgrade from my 1st generation Breville Infuser which has PID but it's not settable as us the 2nd generation Infuser. As you know the Infuser uses a thermalblock so cannot pull and steam simultaneously which I don't care cause I don't make many milk drinks just Americano. Would you consider the Lelit Victoria an upgrade from the Infuser?
Hi yes thermoblock technology is good as it able to heat up really fast however temperature stability is the issue. Victoria is using a 300ml brass boiler which able to help you with much better temperature stability. Also much powerful steam pressure to progress on your latte art skill.
How to refill the wather tank? You have to it get out every time??? omg!
Not really, i use a funnel but kost of the time i just pour and aim into its hole. You need to practice LOL
Hey quick question, what does each water hose do? Also I think on my Victoria I installed the water softener on the wrong hose! Is this a problem?
The longer hose should be the one. If you remember it came with a water trap. Anyway i don't think you can get it wrong because the other hose seems to be too big.
@@StefanusGoana ahh, okay I installed the water softener on the wrong one!! I just removed it and put it on the one with the water trap.
@@deriansilva368 ok if water in your area is relatively hard then just flush out all water in boiler to replace with new fresh water that goes through your softener
@@StefanusGoana thank you!!!
What difference is there between the pl81t and the pl91t? Only group head bigger on the big sister?
Hi Aziz, PL82T comes with a built in grinder. PL91T just espresso machine
@@StefanusGoana not 82, 81t
@@AzizIzgin sorry PL81T Grace is with 57mm grouphead and 250ml boiler.
PL91T is 58mm and 300ml boiler.
I strongly suggest PL91T because 58mm accessories are widely available and you can use it for future upgrade, for example you purchase a 58mm bottomless portafilter so even if you upgrade to Lelit Bianca one day you can still use it
Hey Stefanus, thanks for the nice video! All informations a customer need included. Even though I bought the 81 (Grace), this was very interesting for me. If you make a video about the Grace too, this would be great. Greetings from Germany, stay healthy
@@tTalay Hi there so sorry we have not imported PL81T however maybe one day we will
Thanks for this informative video! Do you still recommend using the water softener if I'm using reverse osmosis water? Does the filter make the water more alkaline (soft) and is that helpful for RO water for better tasting espresso?
Hi RO is certainly not the best base on my research so far.
Softener from Lelit is basically just retain some of the minerals nothing else
@@StefanusGoana I've heard the same about RO, but I also tried adding Third Wave Water packets to my water and did not notice a difference. My RO filter has a mineralization phase at the end, so maybe that's why... Makes sense the filter is really just a filter and not a 'water softener'. Thanks for getting back to me.
@@TonyDL awesome, i guess with third wave water it could become the best water
Is that 140 celsius or Fahrenheit? I'm guessing it's celsius as steam pressure needs to be, they say 212 F. Also how do you switch between water temp, steam temp, timer, and preinfusion?
Hi yes Celcius equals to 284 F
Is this a single boiler/HX?? Thanks
This is a single boiler
my machine is new, but it doesn't shoot water or steam, why is that?
Hv you pressed the middle button?
After pressing middle button with steam icon next to it you hv to wai a minute then steam will build up. For hot water press third button or the bottom one then you can dispense hot water
@@StefanusGoana I already did all that and it didn't work! Now it completely turned off and won't turn back on.
What the heck is blind filter basket? Oh never mind, it's a back flush basket. I didn't see no holes at first.
Do you have to buy all these machines full price or are you getting them at wholesale ? :)
Hi i'm a reseller of Lelit in Indonesia, so you can saya wholesale price. However after playing with 4 machines of Lelit i can feel the hefty price now
Sorry Dude but the music is way too intrusive.
@@troop73oo yeah agree sorry i'm not a content creator actually, i'm educator selling coffer machine LOL