@@eMkayRr I think some of the size could be reduced without compromising safety. Halo can stay. Less fuel capacity would help (though would make one refueling mandatory during race). The complete power unit is also pretty large, even though the ICE isn't big, the rest of the electronic components are. These current cars are way too long and a bit wide too. Especially for tracks like Monaco.
@@eMkayRrdangerous how ? The safety back then was already very good in 2003. In the 80s, early 90s F1 was still very dangerous also some circuits. It has certainly improved over 20 years but that was not that bad either.
they've been stupid big for a while now. Heavy cows too. That 2004 car is like 600 kilos? The current ones are just shy of 800.... and that's if they reach minimum weight (which is a challenge) So they're 30% heavier too.
Agree. Current F1 cars are sterile shadows of what we had 20 years ago. Give us back the old V10’s that made a noise. F1 has never been about being eco friendly, so ditch the energy recovery nonsense and put some balls back into the rear of those cars!
To the Ferrari of 23 probably not. But the F-2004 is remembered because it was the fastest F1 car ever till that day, and more important, it was absolutely dominant. So, let's look at the season, maybe, just maybe the red bull will be remembered. Who knows
Agree apart from faster. 2004 cars are slower. Look at qualifying comparisons. Imola for example in 2022 cars are 1sec faster in q2 (q3 rained) than 2004 pole position time.
@@adamfry1125 You forgot that Imola configuration was changed in 2007 (Variante Bassa was removed). So, the 2004 pole is actually faster than the 2023.
So no mention of the older car needing to go completely off track to over take? We'll just pretend that didn't happen? And on second watch, did it again to stay ahead.
And yet after all these years, with hi tech innovations and world class facilities to make the Ferrari F1 car the most competitive out there, the results don't look as good in it's current 2023 season. Leclerc had his chance in 2022.
The smaller compact F1 was extremely impressive! Very quick very nimble and what a beautiful engine note/sound ... There is a very big size difference too! The 2004 F1 what a magnificently beautiful car.
Right? Wonder what the purpose is? I read that a lot of Tech was banned from the cars prior to 2009, contributing to Ayrton Senna’s crash by making too difficult to control. Is there still a ban on Tech making the 2023 much bigger, @peteabrh-fairest9463? Or weight to keep on the road?
I hadn't made a mistake about the current size of the single-seaters... Why not go back to those of 2004 to have more overtaking? (especially since there are the same number of single-seaters on the starting grid so inevitably there is less space...)
Cause back in time the V10 was enough to have a quick car, nowadays with the V6 you have to have a lot of additional stuff to have a quick car (mgu k, mgu h, a lot of electronics...) wich obviously take a lot of space in the car
mainly for battery and other aero but for safety reasons as well cuz bigger front and bigger sides also mean better protection for the driver in case of crashing
Not really, 1.6 turbo Has similar power to V10s. With electric power added it goes beyond 1050hp. So easy calc - electric is 160hp, we get close to 900hp from the current ice . Still with great reliability, not like V10 era - engine per race xD.
WTF shut up. Give that car to LeClerc, he's already done a run in the F2003 as well. Lewis is a loser and George is already established as the superior driver.
@@tatyino3717 He's extraordinary but still slower than Russell... LeClerc and Verstappen are also way way way better. Perhaps even Norris can beat Hamilton in equal cars, lol look at Austria 2021
@@thrasher8824 V10 were mandatory from 2000 to 2005, this car is from 2004, it had a V10. And how can you not notice it by the sound anyways? V8s don't sound like that.
Only Michael is Michael, and no matter the car the prancing horse makes, they were saved by the greatest F1 Racer of all time. Enzo should be very grateful.
That is so impressive to see how much wild and unpredictable were old F1, where current ones are way much more based on track suiting and tyres saving (i base my comment on this one lap only, it would be interesting to see which one is faster on a 50 laps race)
If you want to see wild and unpredictable F1, check out the 1960s decade. Reliability was so marginal and uncertain for the cars back then, that the element of suspense loomed large even going into the last lap of the race. That kind of suspense I find lacking in the modern era of motorsports.
@@bloqk16 Yeah, but it was more of a blood sport back then. Too many fatalities. Don't need that. Safety is the major improvement in F1 racing, let's keep it that way.
@@dfg12382 not true. Newer ones start losing performance heavily due to battery recharging. Straight after the first lap the new cars start slowing down. The V10s ran at almost 100% driving effort the whole race. Also current cars are 2-5 seconds slower in the race than qualifying, while V10s ran qualifying speed in the race. The V10 would likely lap an entire field of modern cars in a full race
@@nathanregier7403 I thought the same at first becuase I was watching a few F1 videos and I thought this one was another one more, till I saw the driver helmet move a bit weird, like in a wrong way caused by G force physics.... that wasnt normal xd
Easier rules to work with; 2003: Introduction of the single-lap qualifying system, later replaced by the knockout qualifying format in 2006 to make the qualifying sessions more exciting and unpredictable. 2005: Major aerodynamic rule changes aimed at reducing downforce and, consequently, speed, to improve safety. Tire rules also changed, requiring drivers to use a single set of tires for both qualifying and the race. 2009: Introduction of KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System), allowing cars to recover energy during braking. The rules also included significant aerodynamic changes to facilitate overtaking, such as the reintroduction of slick tires and a reduction in wing sizes. 2010s 2011: Introduction of DRS (Drag Reduction System) to aid overtaking by reducing aerodynamic drag. 2014: Major changes with the introduction of 1.6L V6 turbocharged engines with extensive energy recovery systems, replacing the 2.4L V8 engines. This was part of a push towards more sustainable racing. 2017: Changes aimed at making cars faster and more challenging to drive, including wider tires and bodywork to increase downforce and grip. 2019: Introduction of a simplified front wing design to reduce the impact of aerodynamic turbulence on following cars, making it theoretically easier to overtake. 2020s 2021: Introduction of budget caps to make the sport financially sustainable and competitive balance. The original plan for major aerodynamic rule changes was postponed to 2022 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. 2022: Implementation of the new aerodynamic regulations aimed at promoting closer racing and more overtaking. The cars featured ground-effect aerodynamics for the first time since the early 1980s, significantly changing car design philosophy. 2023: Adjustments and refinements to the 2022 aerodynamic regulations, including measures to reduce the phenomenon of "porpoising" where cars would bounce at high speeds due to aerodynamic effects.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who agre the V8, V10’s noises were godly, and vastly better than the current V6 and those who are wrong.
Woooaooo !!! What an interesting video ! I think than no « normal person » have noticed the evolution of the size of these cars… mainly the tyres. It s amazing. Thx for this demonstration.
That 2004 model was like nothing I had ever seen before and like nothing I've seen again. The RPMs and sound that engine produced was simply put... awesome.
Хоть это и компютерная графика , но ощушения от просмотра вызвали теже эмоции что и в 2004г. А почитав коментарии ( на русском языке ) охватила душу радостными воспоминаниями за королевские гонки той эпохи . Эпохи красного барона.❤
Es impresionante como se parecen los dos autos tan distantes en el tiempo. Los cráneos de la aerodinámica no encuentran ideas verdaderamente revolucionarias. Recuerdo cuando Colin Chapman sacó el Lotus 80 en 1980, dijo que la era de los alerones había terminado. 40 años después, los alerones siguen tan importantes como antes, sin que los diseñadores hayan encontrado algo mejor.
No es que no hayan encontrado nada mejor ahí estás muy equivocado y se nota que tienes poca idea😅 La F1 marca las reglas y diseña un concepto de coche básico en apariencia y con limitaciones para que los equipos la vean y se informen de dicho manual para poder trabajar en su vehículo, de ahí cada equipo tiene que emular el diseño que se le impone y pueden retocar ciertos aspectos del vehículo, alerón, chasis, doble difusor, fondo plano, etc,etc,etc... Pero siempre sin sobrepasar la normativa.
Amazingly well done. You'd swear they were real cars on the track, except for those wooden spectators by the fences. Is that right, the older car is actually faster?
Wow I see how small the 2004 is compared to 2023..and better sound and seems a lot faster.. but I do get the rules change every year..for safety and all
Rule changes for safety are one thing. I don't think anyone is against increased safety. But rule changes for emissions, fuel economy, etc. are ridiculous if they take away from the joy of watching fast cars race. Those cars from the early 2000's were so much more entertaining to watch.
Most probably, security, control, renforcement, adherence and other related "improvements" made the newest cars such bigger, but WE are missing that legendary sound of the V10. I remember relaxing on my couch listening to the schumi, Coulthard or Prost cars during 2 hours. It was so intoxicating that you could listen to this motorized melody without tiring of it. ❤🏎️❤
I didn't expect the 2004 car to win. Even with some sloppy driving from this Schumacher guy he was still able to stay ahead at the end. The biggest risk for the 2004 car was to overtake that huge 2023 car. One small touch and it would be sent straight into the wall.
No really the same. First the 2004 car has less horsepower, and nonslick tires. No Kers No DRS. And the older still faster and has more passion. Better sound better looking etc
2004 года Ф1 самая красивая модель за всю историю, и звук у нее приятнее не то что у помойки из 2023 ))) Я всегда болел за Шумми, видел в прямом эфире все его 7 мировых титулов. Ну и самая эпичная гонка это Бельгия 2008, смотреть такое в эфире... )))
Yeaaah it's a shit show. I"m so glad that 2022 turned out a bit more normal in terms of results instead of wanting all these midfield teams on the podium.... a total joke 2021 was. But at least the cars looked good and were super fast. Nowadays it's just so oversized and slow on turn-in. Not satisfying to watch. The new Ferrari looks like a pig in a 90 degree corner.
How can you tell the difference between 2024 vs. 2004 F1 car if there is no year or tell tail signs. So it appears to be 2004 F1 car is faster than 2024 F1 car
Isso, porque o piloto do 2004, era meio afobado, se não a surra teria sido pior. Um banho de desempenho, um lindo som do motor , um belo design. O 2023 ,é basicamente um F- Indi ou um CART, menor, menos pesado com um som xoxo do motor!
@@gold333 I like the smaller cars, but yeah, they were not pretty, but the V10 20K engines of that era.... fantastic. Current Ferrari livery is best of all time.
Ferrari F2004 венец творения инженеров,болид настолько был хорош что конкуренты остались далеко позади,вся идея,все механизмы ,шины,техническая команда были в тот год заточены на Михаэля Шумахера и он и блягодаря и ему команда заняла 1 место в кубке конструкторов ,а сам Михаэль чемпионом мира. Славные были времена в автоспорте,великие были гонщики. Сейчас это не болиды,это "айкосы" и битва электроники,а не гонщиков.
The FIA regulations that the F1 teams have to adhered to that makes the car even slower even after 20 years ahead on modern technologies which makes the F1 races itself not as interesting as before.......
Sad thing formula 1 dropped the goal to be the fastest thing that can move on track and started some political decisions and lost this feeling of being a wonder. I doubt anything could beat the projects from 2008 with slick tyres applied. Giving engineers possibility to develop this more, now it would be mamy seconds ahead of the current cars. Those machines had comparable times with current cars even though they had much worse tyres and aero developed, but were lighter, more agile and just spectacular when on the move
And on top of that, the straight up bias when it comes to allowing the richer companies to simply develop better cars. It's not more about the cars than skill, that's just sad.
А разве нет? Нынешние машины тяжелее, с большей прижимной силой(то есть сопротивление воздуха), с меньшим двигателем(вместо 3.0L V10 - 1.5L V6) используют только один бак топлива за всю гонку вместо 2(а то и 3х раньше)... и получают тот же самый результат(а иногда и лучше).
The size difference is crazy. I miss older, compact, lightweight F1 cars.
And dangerous
@@eMkayRr I think some of the size could be reduced without compromising safety. Halo can stay. Less fuel capacity would help (though would make one refueling mandatory during race). The complete power unit is also pretty large, even though the ICE isn't big, the rest of the electronic components are. These current cars are way too long and a bit wide too. Especially for tracks like Monaco.
@@eMkayRr yeah, everything is to dangerous, lets do more lockdowns.
@@eMkayRrdangerous how ? The safety back then was already very good in 2003. In the 80s, early 90s F1 was still very dangerous also some circuits. It has certainly improved over 20 years but that was not that bad either.
@@eMkayRr Extreme sports must be dangerous. Look how they drive now without the fear of death, every billionaire son can compete.
Never realized the size difference , the new ones are huge!
DAMN Near GTP size lmao hahah ;D Throw some GROCERIES in tha Back and Pick up kids lmao hahah ;D
@@Potts2700 They're larger than a Chevy Suburban! 18.5 feet long; just crazy.
They were even bigger in 2020-2021.
@@jcrbama hammond where's my lambo chevy
they've been stupid big for a while now. Heavy cows too. That 2004 car is like 600 kilos? The current ones are just shy of 800.... and that's if they reach minimum weight (which is a challenge) So they're 30% heavier too.
You would never hear that 2023 junk box over that masterpiece, Schumacher’s Ferrari would be screaming
it's so cute to think the 2023 engine would even register in the microphone next to a v10.
Ferrari without Schumacher simply … SUCKS!
@@uninteresting-content-dump
My lawn mower is louder.
Exactly
@@hr8479didnt benetton win that race?
The 2004 is a legend, nobody will remember to 2023.
Agree. Current F1 cars are sterile shadows of what we had 20 years ago.
Give us back the old V10’s that made a noise. F1 has never been about being eco friendly, so ditch the energy recovery nonsense and put some balls back into the rear of those cars!
To the Ferrari of 23 probably not. But the F-2004 is remembered because it was the fastest F1 car ever till that day, and more important, it was absolutely dominant. So, let's look at the season, maybe, just maybe the red bull will be remembered. Who knows
that's sad i will remember the 2023 in my nightmare this car ....
Not a 2023 Ferrari, it is a dismal failure
I think that the merc w11 will be remembered
The old car is better looking, better sounding and much faster! 😎👍
And not encumbered with the KERS system, either.
@@bloqk16 And its like watching porn and not The Rugrats.
Agree apart from faster. 2004 cars are slower. Look at qualifying comparisons. Imola for example in 2022 cars are 1sec faster in q2 (q3 rained) than 2004 pole position time.
@@adamfry1125 You forgot that Imola configuration was changed in 2007 (Variante Bassa was removed). So, the 2004 pole is actually faster than the 2023.
@@adamfry1125 that was a change in the track the 2004 version it's faster
Schumacher's machine is more compact, beautiful and faster.🏁
And narrower. Like a FIAT 500
No wonder why no one overtakes in F1 anymore...The cars are huge!
Ahora se adelanta mucho más que en esa época
The sound of the newer hair drier would never drown out the roar of a V10 from that era.
So no mention of the older car needing to go completely off track to over take? We'll just pretend that didn't happen? And on second watch, did it again to stay ahead.
If Schumacher pulled of that move in a Ferrari in Italy 🇮🇹 They’d pretend it didn’t happen
Well if the new car didn't take up 3/4 the road...
@@crypticchess3712 Better handling and more downforce.
It's a video game/simulator.
IT'S DOC HUDSON'S TRICK!!!!!
And yet after all these years, with hi tech innovations and world class facilities to make the Ferrari F1 car the most competitive out there, the results don't look as good in it's current 2023 season. Leclerc had his chance in 2022.
18 years has shown decline..sad with all the restrictions
The smaller compact F1 was extremely impressive!
Very quick very nimble and what a beautiful engine note/sound ...
There is a very big size difference too!
The 2004 F1 what a magnificently beautiful car.
Right? Wonder what the purpose is? I read that a lot of Tech was banned from the cars prior to 2009, contributing to Ayrton Senna’s crash by making too difficult to control. Is there still a ban on Tech making the 2023 much bigger, @peteabrh-fairest9463? Or weight to keep on the road?
I hadn't made a mistake about the current size of the single-seaters... Why not go back to those of 2004 to have more overtaking? (especially since there are the same number of single-seaters on the starting grid so inevitably there is less space...)
Cause back in time the V10 was enough to have a quick car, nowadays with the V6 you have to have a lot of additional stuff to have a quick car (mgu k, mgu h, a lot of electronics...) wich obviously take a lot of space in the car
mainly for battery and other aero but for safety reasons as well cuz bigger front and bigger sides also mean better protection for the driver in case of crashing
Not really, 1.6 turbo Has similar power to V10s. With electric power added it goes beyond 1050hp. So easy calc - electric is 160hp, we get close to 900hp from the current ice . Still with great reliability, not like V10 era - engine per race xD.
The batteries take up a lot of space in modern cars.
The reason why we don't have the 2004 cars is because there was actually LESS overtaking
I remember F2004 in Schumis hands, the best combination of car and driver ever. I would like to see that car now in Lewis hands.
He's not good enough to drive it
How many RoC Lewis won?
@martin barr's CRF450 i agree with you, i think lrwis is an extra ordinary driver, i hope he can win the 8th title in 2023.
WTF shut up. Give that car to LeClerc, he's already done a run in the F2003 as well.
Lewis is a loser and George is already established as the superior driver.
@@tatyino3717 He's extraordinary but still slower than Russell...
LeClerc and Verstappen are also way way way better. Perhaps even Norris can beat Hamilton in equal cars, lol look at Austria 2021
Man that 2004 is tiny. No wonder it was so fast.
It doesn't have a hybrid engine it's pure mechanical power of V10
@@prestigepowermachinery and the best sounding car of ALL TIME
The new F1 cars look the size of a humvee..
When the F2004 goes ahead, I imagine hearing the road runner's voice (beep-beep) :)
Went off the track and gained an advantage though. Has to give the place back!
@@abrahamcambridge1250
actually went off the track and lost a ton of time lol
The V10, I miss him really
V8
@@thrasher8824 V10 were mandatory from 2000 to 2005, this car is from 2004, it had a V10.
And how can you not notice it by the sound anyways? V8s don't sound like that.
@@thrasher8824u need to clean ur ears
It would have been great to see a comparison of qualifying laps in each car instead.
Man, you can simply search for the qualifying results back when the old model was used and compare it to timings today on the same track....
@@ShinigamiGrin I meant it will be interesting to see how close they were side-to-side as ghost cars in 1 lap run.
@@ShinigamiGrin the problem is the compound of the tires, the current ones are much faster
@@Stevensalcido so what? It would be a comparison between an old car and a new car, all components included
Or a ghost version
Miss that height pitch when the 2004 goes by that sound is great
Only Michael is Michael, and no matter the car the prancing horse makes, they were saved by the greatest F1 Racer of all time. Enzo should be very grateful.
I agree. No one comes anywhere near shumi
maybe you're too young and haven't seen Ayrton Senna drive.
@@guisaia yes I got to see Senna drive. He was very good.
@@guisaia
👏👏👏👏
Senna The best💪🏼
Give that man a Bells
That is so impressive to see how much wild and unpredictable were old F1, where current ones are way much more based on track suiting and tyres saving (i base my comment on this one lap only, it would be interesting to see which one is faster on a 50 laps race)
If you want to see wild and unpredictable F1, check out the 1960s decade. Reliability was so marginal and uncertain for the cars back then, that the element of suspense loomed large even going into the last lap of the race. That kind of suspense I find lacking in the modern era of motorsports.
The newer ones easily, they don't need to refuel.
@@bloqk16 Yeah, but it was more of a blood sport back then. Too many fatalities. Don't need that. Safety is the major improvement in F1 racing, let's keep it that way.
@@dfg12382 not true. Newer ones start losing performance heavily due to battery recharging. Straight after the first lap the new cars start slowing down. The V10s ran at almost 100% driving effort the whole race. Also current cars are 2-5 seconds slower in the race than qualifying, while V10s ran qualifying speed in the race. The V10 would likely lap an entire field of modern cars in a full race
2023 is slower than 2004 goddamnt!!!!! Its ridiculous
Wow that sound is just amazing
Как там говорилось новое не всегда самое лучшее!))круто обставил!!))
Получил нелегальное преимущество
За 20 лет технология резины сильно изменилась, если там старая на видео, то вообще лол
Рулевое управление разное, с первых секунд дают заметить..
Are you telling me this was a game? It looked so damn real!
Assetto Corsa
My god. I didn’t even realize this until your comment and I watched it back. Crazy
@@nathanregier7403 I thought the same at first becuase I was watching a few F1 videos and I thought this one was another one more, till I saw the driver helmet move a bit weird, like in a wrong way caused by G force physics.... that wasnt normal xd
Assetto Corsa replays with custom shades and post processing(motion blur etc)
It doesn't look the same when you're actually driving.
Didn't know it either. If you just focus on the car's and the race. After your comment it was obvious lol
The little F1s from the 1970s were the coolest. Especially the low ones, a V8 with a flattened air intake at the front.
6 wheels LOL
No tempo 0:51, houve mudança de traçado no circuito?!?
😳 Dang! Old school Ferrari kicked butt👍
Easier rules to work with;
2003: Introduction of the single-lap qualifying system, later replaced by the knockout qualifying format in 2006 to make the qualifying sessions more exciting and unpredictable.
2005: Major aerodynamic rule changes aimed at reducing downforce and, consequently, speed, to improve safety. Tire rules also changed, requiring drivers to use a single set of tires for both qualifying and the race.
2009: Introduction of KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System), allowing cars to recover energy during braking. The rules also included significant aerodynamic changes to facilitate overtaking, such as the reintroduction of slick tires and a reduction in wing sizes.
2010s
2011: Introduction of DRS (Drag Reduction System) to aid overtaking by reducing aerodynamic drag.
2014: Major changes with the introduction of 1.6L V6 turbocharged engines with extensive energy recovery systems, replacing the 2.4L V8 engines. This was part of a push towards more sustainable racing.
2017: Changes aimed at making cars faster and more challenging to drive, including wider tires and bodywork to increase downforce and grip.
2019: Introduction of a simplified front wing design to reduce the impact of aerodynamic turbulence on following cars, making it theoretically easier to overtake.
2020s
2021: Introduction of budget caps to make the sport financially sustainable and competitive balance. The original plan for major aerodynamic rule changes was postponed to 2022 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
2022: Implementation of the new aerodynamic regulations aimed at promoting closer racing and more overtaking. The cars featured ground-effect aerodynamics for the first time since the early 1980s, significantly changing car design philosophy.
2023: Adjustments and refinements to the 2022 aerodynamic regulations, including measures to reduce the phenomenon of "porpoising" where cars would bounce at high speeds due to aerodynamic effects.
There are two kinds of people in the world:
those who agre the V8, V10’s noises were godly, and vastly better than the current V6
and those who are wrong.
Well said mate.
theres just something about that red with white marlboro . pure dominance
That's late 1980's MacLaren MP4s !
Woooaooo !!! What an interesting video ! I think than no « normal person » have noticed the evolution of the size of these cars… mainly the tyres. It s amazing. Thx for this demonstration.
Das waren noch Zeiten..mit echtem Formel 1 Sound.
Habe 2004' Live das Rennen in Monaco gesehen.
Unvergesslich der Zweikampf
Schumi : Hakkinen 😊
Weiß ja nicht, welches Rennen du da gesehen hast, aber 2004 ist Häkkinen schon lange im Ruhestand gewesen und gewonnen hat das Rennen Trulli.
@@alex_srsc Da ist Schumacher im Tunnel rausgeflogen, oder?
@@caskinfg Da wurde er vom Deppen Montoya während der SC-Phase abgeschossen.
@@caskinfg ja wegen Montoya aber nicht wegen Mika geschweige denn die zwei hatten 2004 einen Zweikampf, der hatte schon Ende 2001 aufgehört
That 2004 model was like nothing I had ever seen before and like nothing I've seen again. The RPMs and sound that engine produced was simply put... awesome.
Why is the sound of the new one louder? Should be the reverse I think.
Schumacher forever!🤘🔥♥️
and ever! Always the KING of Formula One
Older car requires driver with real driving skills. No electronics to cover their mistakes. Real cars real drivers. Todays more like a sim video game.
Nah, nothing different
What are you even saying 😂
Bruh f2004 literally has traction control lol🥲
@@BiscuitsYT can you not read and comprehend English, it is clear as day.
@@rt2255 I can but the original comment isn’t in correct grammar and makes no sense unless you look at it a few times
Love to see the 2004 car on proper slicks.
Also glad the new regulations will shorten the cars next year.
I think Barachello said if they run it with slicks it was so powerful, it would’ve ripped the car in half on full power!
Хоть это и компютерная графика , но ощушения от просмотра вызвали теже эмоции что и в 2004г. А почитав коментарии ( на русском языке ) охватила душу радостными воспоминаниями за королевские гонки той эпохи . Эпохи красного барона.❤
Today's F1 cars are trucks 😬
Bring back F1 2004 with Slick Tire.
The difference in lap times compared to today's cars would be extreme.
1. track limits 0:50
2. Why is the 2023 car sound louder then the V10?
2004 all day every day, for me!
For everyone who has commonsense
@@daniel16.4 👍
От вам і прогрес! Для мене номер один на завжди тандем Marlboro Mc laren Honda - Ayrton Senna!
Es impresionante como se parecen los dos autos tan distantes en el tiempo.
Los cráneos de la aerodinámica no encuentran ideas verdaderamente revolucionarias.
Recuerdo cuando Colin Chapman sacó el Lotus 80 en 1980, dijo que la era de los alerones había terminado.
40 años después, los alerones siguen tan importantes como antes, sin que los diseñadores hayan encontrado algo mejor.
el f1 ferrari de 2004 pesava 600 kg mientras que aquel de 2023 pesa casi 800 kg.
No es que no hayan encontrado nada mejor ahí estás muy equivocado y se nota que tienes poca idea😅
La F1 marca las reglas y diseña un concepto de coche básico en apariencia y con limitaciones para que los equipos la vean y se informen de dicho manual para poder trabajar en su vehículo, de ahí cada equipo tiene que emular el diseño que se le impone y pueden retocar ciertos aspectos del vehículo, alerón, chasis, doble difusor, fondo plano, etc,etc,etc... Pero siempre sin sobrepasar la normativa.
sobre o sf 23, como teve acesso ao designe e pintura do carro com 1 mes de antecedência?
Pain to see a Ferrari F1 without sidepods 😅
Amazingly well done. You'd swear they were real cars on the track, except for those wooden spectators by the fences. Is that right, the older car is actually faster?
I think the Formula 1 2023 Ferrari is more connected in the technology than the F1 2004 Ferrari Schumacher, that is more connected in speed.
SENSACIONALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL !!!!! Saludos
0:17 mommy wants to teach his boy some lessons :)
Interesting video but in reality, how accurate is this comparison?
2004 V10👍pasion y 2023 V6
Why only the vacuum cliener sound?
Took me 1 minute and 17 seconds to realize this is not real
The car has become longer and wider. How to race on the narrow Monaco circuit?
F1 всегда будет у меня ассоциироваться, именно с этой машиной 2004 года и М.Шумахером.
How come that V6 is louder than the V10?
Как же красива одскульная Ferarri! Куда, черт побери движется современная формула. На это без слез смотреть невозможно!
😢👍👏👏👏👏
А какой звук!!! Пчёлка!
Wow I see how small the 2004 is compared to 2023..and better sound and seems a lot faster.. but I do get the rules change every year..for safety and all
Rule changes for safety are one thing. I don't think anyone is against increased safety. But rule changes for emissions, fuel economy, etc. are ridiculous if they take away from the joy of watching fast cars race. Those cars from the early 2000's were so much more entertaining to watch.
Clearly the older ferarri has a better gaming chair!
Donde esté un V10 sobran todos V6 sonido espectacular eso sí eran motores y no lo de ahora capaz de subir a 19000rpm que vuelvan eso si eran F1
Así es desde que quitaron el ruido del motor agudo no es lo mismo. Carros más lentos y lerdos.
Claro, ahora patrocinalo. Porque esos motores no duraban nada. Vamos, solo tienes que pagar 100 dólares por carrera extra 😊
that was motorsport with engines...and so fast and beautiful!
I miss the screaming V-10’s and V-12’s, never again. 😢
Most probably, security, control, renforcement, adherence and other related "improvements" made the newest cars such bigger, but WE are missing that legendary sound of the V10. I remember relaxing on my couch listening to the schumi, Coulthard or Prost cars during 2 hours. It was so intoxicating that you could listen to this motorized melody without tiring of it. ❤🏎️❤
I didn't expect the 2004 car to win. Even with some sloppy driving from this Schumacher guy he was still able to stay ahead at the end. The biggest risk for the 2004 car was to overtake that huge 2023 car. One small touch and it would be sent straight into the wall.
is that 2022 mercy with ferrari livery?
Looks like it!
This is like the T800 vs T1000 - I’m rooting for Arnie
The 2004 masterpiece. Imagine if that technology was allowed to continue. F1 should be the pinnacle of engineering, it is not now
600 vs 800kg and they have the same speed! Crazy the engineering progress that have been made!
Da haben wir wohl unterschiedliche Videos gesehen....
Where do you see same speed?
the large size has a very very large effect on the air... The durability is so different...
They just put a bigger engine in it. . . imagine if they put a bigger engine in the 2004.
No really the same. First the 2004 car has less horsepower, and nonslick tires. No Kers No DRS. And the older still faster and has more passion. Better sound better looking etc
Без слёз невозможно смотреть... Как жаль что Мика вынесли из F-1...
we really need to go back to v10's man.....these new formula on ecars should be faster not getting slower
Волшебный звук 2004!!!
19年の差異が感じられないのは私だけかな？
which sound is better?
So basically the older cars faster on the straights 😂
+ way more flabbergasted
@@ilyadratutin6385 Yeah you’d have thought the new ones would be faster lol
2004 года Ф1 самая красивая модель за всю историю, и звук у нее приятнее не то что у помойки из 2023 ))) Я всегда болел за Шумми, видел в прямом эфире все его 7 мировых титулов. Ну и самая эпичная гонка это Бельгия 2008, смотреть такое в эфире... )))
Today’s Formula 1 is depressing…
Yeaaah it's a shit show. I"m so glad that 2022 turned out a bit more normal in terms of results instead of wanting all these midfield teams on the podium.... a total joke 2021 was. But at least the cars looked good and were super fast. Nowadays it's just so oversized and slow on turn-in. Not satisfying to watch. The new Ferrari looks like a pig in a 90 degree corner.
The smaller cars made it so much faster, competitive and entertaining
Why does the ferrari have zer0 pods? 2023's regulations are forbidding the zeropods so mercedes have to work around it again
It is the Mercedes W13 in a Ferrari skin.
@@iee4g6 I already know that, its just stoopid imo to call it 2023
How can you tell the difference between 2024 vs. 2004 F1 car if there is no year or tell tail signs.
So it appears to be 2004 F1 car is faster than 2024 F1 car
Isso, porque o piloto do 2004, era meio afobado, se não a surra teria sido pior. Um banho de desempenho, um lindo som do motor , um belo design. O 2023 ,é basicamente um F- Indi ou um CART, menor, menos pesado com um som xoxo do motor!
Concordo plenamente contigo.
2023 é um carro maior ....
Mas de 200 kg mas pesado un f1 actual 🤷♂️
O som do motor V10 é inigualável, além dessa pintura da Ferrari F1 2004 ser icônica
Pelo que depois eu pesquisei piloto do 2004 era o Barrichelo, isto explica a dificuldade de ultrapassar, mas o carro acabou levando sozinho.
Those cars in 2004 were simply more powerful. Despite the engine and other "dumb down" regulations the 2023 car performs really well.
What? No 2023 car has even set a lap time. Testing has yet to begin
2004: thin long high, ugly cars and grooved tyres, like Usain Bolt running with slippers
@@gold333 I like the smaller cars, but yeah, they were not pretty, but the V10 20K engines of that era.... fantastic. Current Ferrari livery is best of all time.
Ferrari F2004 венец творения инженеров,болид настолько был хорош что конкуренты остались далеко позади,вся идея,все механизмы ,шины,техническая команда были в тот год заточены на Михаэля Шумахера и он и блягодаря и ему команда заняла 1 место в кубке конструкторов ,а сам Михаэль чемпионом мира. Славные были времена в автоспорте,великие были гонщики. Сейчас это не болиды,это "айкосы" и битва электроники,а не гонщиков.
The FIA regulations that the F1 teams have to adhered to that makes the car even slower even after 20 years ahead on modern technologies which makes the F1 races itself not as interesting as before.......
sometimes fia seems to want to kill the sport.
Was the drs broke?
20 years of technical "innovation" right there. although the 2004 one gets a 5 second time penalty for track limits
What a race!!!
Surprised Charles didn’t spin out at @1:10
😄😄😄
Breaks your heart
This reminds me of proni Vs Villeneuve 1982 imola Giles last race, that his teammate, didn't do as he had agreed to finish behind Giles .
Move on Old man
I wonder what spec tires the 2004 car was wearing?
I guess it was a nonslick intermediate Bridgestones
Sad thing formula 1 dropped the goal to be the fastest thing that can move on track and started some political decisions and lost this feeling of being a wonder. I doubt anything could beat the projects from 2008 with slick tyres applied. Giving engineers possibility to develop this more, now it would be mamy seconds ahead of the current cars. Those machines had comparable times with current cars even though they had much worse tyres and aero developed, but were lighter, more agile and just spectacular when on the move
And on top of that, the straight up bias when it comes to allowing the richer companies to simply develop better cars. It's not more about the cars than skill, that's just sad.
Merc type side pods on a Ferrari?
Да-прогресс за 20 лет на лицо)))
А разве нет? Нынешние машины тяжелее, с большей прижимной силой(то есть сопротивление воздуха), с меньшим двигателем(вместо 3.0L V10 - 1.5L V6) используют только один бак топлива за всю гонку вместо 2(а то и 3х раньше)... и получают тот же самый результат(а иногда и лучше).
Is It a game?
A imagem ta tão real que parece um jogo
I prefer the old one.
I miss the sounds of the V10's, and later V8's.
A de 2004 era o Rubinho que tava dirigindo,por isso a ultrapassagem foi difícil 😂
Those massive RPMs …just look how the new car pushed more air ..bigger all around including those tires
"nice" red mercedes... gj.
Much prefer the look of the older car,better drivers in that era too
Este circuito é macabro. 1994.
Para nós brasileiros é um péssimo lugar
Bye bye Senna! For us is party!!