@@tods_workshop Nah, don't give me that, you guys don't lack creativity. ;) Look around your workshop, I bet something will inspire you for a topic, hehe.
Yep, good gunsmiths and inventors have always given the nobility fancy, mostly useless weapons. It's a great way to make sales and show off your wares.
Reminds me a lot of the Kolibri pistol, tiny miniature pistol which was absolutely useless for killing someone, but made a cool conversation piece and bragging rights of "I can afford this tiny expensive toy".
I'm sure just as we spend inordinate amounts of money on fancy toys just to "have a thing", the same impulse can't have been much different back in the 1600's. Guys have always been drawn to impractical gadgets with moving parts that shoot stuff, its a deeply ingrained part of the male Psyche.
Most historical examples include a front hood, ring or barrel, I wowld asume this where meant as a quick-draw incapacitators, comparable to a taser or pepper-spray. Load before leaving, carry under your cloak or cape, someone jumps you? put one in their gut and run, (or cut them up! it's up to you!)
This has none of the benefits of a taser or pepper-spray, that being less lethal or better yet none lethal. If you want to carry a less-lethal weapon in the era these date from, you could carry a club or cudgel which would have the added benefit of being a potential staff or walking stick. However I think cutting someone up would be far more realistic, carry a knife/dagger and just use that.
You should make a ball shooting crossbow. I'm not sure how common they were or if they actually existed but i had read that some crossbows were made to shoot lead or stone balls for hunting game and birds.
When you ask what these tiny "assassin's" crossbows are for, I think I have a plausible hypothesis. It's like spending your days studying machine guns, fighting rifles, handguns, etc. Then, you see a little .22 plinker rifle, and don't know what it's for. Among toy, pest control, etc... Maybe it's a learning tool? For teaching kids to shoot crossbows. Didn't they have regular bows made small for kids to?
This is the second or third video of this crossbow you made why don't you make one shooting ballistic jell with it like some TH-camrs have with the pistol crossbow
@Akm72 a rich lady could use this far more effectively than a dagger. Easy to conceal under a dress, something they can show off a party and feel marginally safer while traveling. Not the most practical, but impractical tiny firearms have also been carried by many people for a bit of show and the idea of self defense.
It already is a genuinely lethal weapon. This thing in close quarters will put a nice hole in you. Lethal if it hits any vitals. I suppose you could make a stock attachment if you want some better accuracy for hunting small game or something.
Ideal for a magistrate or similar to keep discretely loaded while dispensing justice from behind a desk, where his ability to swing a bladed weapon would be severely limited.
I wonder if it could be an expensive self-defense option? It could be down to things like regulation-dodging, like some of firearm-ownership in the US today - maybe you'd carry this if you lived somewhere that prohibited carrying a pistol?
Matt kept trying to hint that it is in fact a deadly weapon, not a toy. It seems to me to be the bow equivalent of a stiletto. Quiet, compact and deadly. Hot-headed Italian nobles were continually murdering each other in street fights during the Renaissance period, e.g. Romeo and Juliet. This would give your family's gang the edge over your rivals without alerting the watch with a pistol shot.
Might make for a good emergency defense weapon, especially fir the rich person. Easy enough to conceal, can be used to show off. Not the most practical, but it would be far better than nothing.
I imagine these could have been used as a self-defence weapon for wealthy people? Similar to how you would carry around a dagger, sword or cane. They are quite compact to carry and can be used like a pistol to get one shot off. At the same time you can show off your wealth.
The problem with that, is that you would have to carry it about already spanned (which is not good for the bow); plus, you would have to fish a dart out of your pocket or pouch, and put it in, all while you're being attacked... A pistol would be much handier.
Seeing as it has practically instant action (as opposed to the wheellock typical on the pistols of the day) I would suppose that this was a sort of self-defence/home defence implement which can be conveniently put on the table, quickly grabbed and used in need and effective at short distances indoors. If you're faced with multiple assailants, you would also have more time to get to your sword or call for help, which helps matters at least a bit.
There isare some flaws with the argument of the weapon being trackable. You're assuming that the people know what kind of weapon hit the person (or that the weapon is found, but obviously an assassin would not just drop it). Even if the projectile is some kind of a hint it's still a really rare thing so people might just not know. Also consider the long distances. Who says that the maker of the bow is even remotely close to the victim? As far as killing-power is concerned, the bolt might be poisoned and crossbowing someone even from only a couple metres away is a lot safer than to stab them. I still belive that you're right about it being a toy though. Just wanted to point out those points.
An assassination with this type of weapon is going to be fairly up close and so unless you have access to the target's home the attack is going to have to be done in public, so likely even if you managed to kill your target, their bodyguard, spouse, or some passerby is definitely going to notice the ornate tiny crossbow. And if you're depending on poison, the target themselves are probably going to live long enough to comment on the weapon the attacker used.
Balestrino crossbow could be used for entertainment as Todd described but you did get cheap ones of near all wood construction. Balestrino crossbow were used for pest control & small game hunting. They are accurate enough to hit a rat or a bird while not taking up much space & ready screwed-spanned it don't take much to add the bolt then pop it off! An ornate Balestrino crossbow as assassins weapon is laughable though an everyday one for vermin is plausible though not my choice. Since these little Balestrino are at hand it could be used for personal defence as better then nothing if surprised. No one is going to carry around a full sized cross bow that can't be pre-ready spanned but Balestrino crossbow screw design allows this well be very portable. If traveling in that time & they didn't trust early pistol technology which wet powder is useless I'd carry a Balestrino to see off bandit or modest size game. inch depth penetration is enough to considerably harm a wild dog, wolf or human but not much else for it would do little to a boar. Still a Balestrino with a hunting sword or large dagger is easy enough to carry without inconvenience while fashionable at the time of the 17th century.
One use for these COULD BE in a way similar to an emergency revolver like a S&W .500. Modern hunters use said revolvers as last ditch bear protection. I could see something like this being used by nobility on the hunt in a similar application
under the bed defensive and already loaded little weapon to startle the enemy (robber or assassin) that enters in your room while you are sleeping. it could've worked imo, just for rich people and with lots of ornaments
If it was in use before firearms--it might be a sedan chair defensive weapon? Chap pulls back curtain and lunges at you with a dagger--you shoot him in the face!
Could it be a noblewomans weapon ? it requires no strength, or training, it's small, and decorative. Doesnt even have to be for women, it could just be for nobles with no martial training. It could also just be a status symbol, since in many (most?) cultures only the nobility were allowed to wear weapons.
I love the way Matt treats Tod as a guest on his own channel.
Anyone else want to see more videos with Tod and Matt together? I feel they work really well together.
@@tods_workshop Nah, don't give me that, you guys don't lack creativity. ;) Look around your workshop, I bet something will inspire you for a topic, hehe.
I do pls. That guy Matt is really nice, just like u sir Tod
@@leonruvalcaba1549 Yes, guys keep up the cooperation.
I’ve always considered them to be the equivalent of a parlor pistol. Something small that you can target shoot in the house without to much worry.
Also one hell of a good way for a craftsman to show off his skills.
Yep, good gunsmiths and inventors have always given the nobility fancy, mostly useless weapons. It's a great way to make sales and show off your wares.
Matt is exactly the kind of person to "welcome" someone to their own show.
I'd like to see how it performs in ballistic gel.
or against a skull analog
Reminds me a lot of the Kolibri pistol, tiny miniature pistol which was absolutely useless for killing someone, but made a cool conversation piece and bragging rights of "I can afford this tiny expensive toy".
I'm sure just as we spend inordinate amounts of money on fancy toys just to "have a thing", the same impulse can't have been much different back in the 1600's.
Guys have always been drawn to impractical gadgets with moving parts that shoot stuff, its a deeply ingrained part of the male Psyche.
is this a reupload? i feel like ive seen this before
It was on Matt's channel aswell some time ago.
Yes, i too am sure this was up some time ago.
Tod has also done another video on this same thing.
Tod borrowed Matt's sideburns for this vid.
Tod looks much more relaxed in front of the camera nowdays, I think.
Your new haircut is looking fresh my man! Love your work and knowledge! Hope you have a great 2019! :)
I would like a video on that target.
Most historical examples include a front hood, ring or barrel, I wowld asume this where meant as a quick-draw incapacitators, comparable to a taser or pepper-spray. Load before leaving, carry under your cloak or cape, someone jumps you? put one in their gut and run, (or cut them up! it's up to you!)
This has none of the benefits of a taser or pepper-spray, that being less lethal or better yet none lethal. If you want to carry a less-lethal weapon in the era these date from, you could carry a club or cudgel which would have the added benefit of being a potential staff or walking stick. However I think cutting someone up would be far more realistic, carry a knife/dagger and just use that.
Like a game of darts with friends over a few drinks after dinner. That would be great fun.
You should make a ball shooting crossbow. I'm not sure how common they were or if they actually existed but i had read that some crossbows were made to shoot lead or stone balls for hunting game and birds.
They're called "stone-bows": Shakespeare mentions them in _Twelfth Night_ .
*"O, for a stone-bow to hit him in the eye!" *
3:38 *Farting sound* "So my gut reaction is that" xD
Would it be possible to make a ballestrino with a latchet mechanism, or is the draw weight too high? It would make loading a lot quicker.
Also known as a ‘ballast Reno’ by TH-cam’s autosubtitling.
It's a wealthy medieval man's rat-hunting toy. Basically the medieval equivalent of video games.
wow that makes sense
It's not medieval, though. Early modern period ~16th and 17th century.
Have you ever played a video game?
I feel like you haven’t
@Phi6er Very good :)
whos channel is it ?
When you ask what these tiny "assassin's" crossbows are for, I think I have a plausible hypothesis. It's like spending your days studying machine guns, fighting rifles, handguns, etc. Then, you see a little .22 plinker rifle, and don't know what it's for. Among toy, pest control, etc... Maybe it's a learning tool? For teaching kids to shoot crossbows. Didn't they have regular bows made small for kids to?
If I were someone selling crossbows would I want to carry one of these to show or a full size model?
An interesting idea, but it seems unlikely that you'd use this as your demo for a full-size, given that the drawing mechanism is completely different.
@@madnessbydesignVria It's not so much a representation of your product, but a representation of the quality you can provide.
@@joost1120 Fair enough. :)
It's a nice toy, it's an expensive toy probably because it's really nicely made.
I'm sure more than a few servants were shot with one.
Reminds me of those fancy pistols that are made today that cost $5000 USD+, not exactly a weapons for soldiers or self defence.
This is the second or third video of this crossbow you made why don't you make one shooting ballistic jell with it like some TH-camrs have with the pistol crossbow
Maybe for self defence?
It seems they'd be inconvenient to carry around with you on a day to day basis, much bulkier than a dagger or a small sword and you only get one shot.
@Akm72 a rich lady could use this far more effectively than a dagger. Easy to conceal under a dress, something they can show off a party and feel marginally safer while traveling. Not the most practical, but impractical tiny firearms have also been carried by many people for a bit of show and the idea of self defense.
How much would it have to be scaled up to make it a genuine lethal weapon?
It already is a genuinely lethal weapon. This thing in close quarters will put a nice hole in you. Lethal if it hits any vitals. I suppose you could make a stock attachment if you want some better accuracy for hunting small game or something.
Ideal for a magistrate or similar to keep discretely loaded while dispensing justice from behind a desk, where his ability to swing a bladed weapon would be severely limited.
Useing poison bolts?
hunt birds with the belestrino?
GIVE THE CHANNEL BACK TO TODD!!!!
I wonder if it could be an expensive self-defense option? It could be down to things like regulation-dodging, like some of firearm-ownership in the US today - maybe you'd carry this if you lived somewhere that prohibited carrying a pistol?
Many thanks for this fascinating video. How long would you say that it takes to reload your balestrino?
It's missing its mate. These came out during the early years of gun power. These were gentlemens dueling crossbows from a more civilized time.
Matt kept trying to hint that it is in fact a deadly weapon, not a toy. It seems to me to be the bow equivalent of a stiletto. Quiet, compact and deadly. Hot-headed Italian nobles were continually murdering each other in street fights during the Renaissance period, e.g. Romeo and Juliet. This would give your family's gang the edge over your rivals without alerting the watch with a pistol shot.
Might make for a good emergency defense weapon, especially fir the rich person. Easy enough to conceal, can be used to show off. Not the most practical, but it would be far better than nothing.
I imagine these could have been used as a self-defence weapon for wealthy people? Similar to how you would carry around a dagger, sword or cane.
They are quite compact to carry and can be used like a pistol to get one shot off. At the same time you can show off your wealth.
The problem with that, is that you would have to carry it about already spanned (which is not good for the bow); plus, you would have to fish a dart out of your pocket or pouch, and put it in, all while you're being attacked...
A pistol would be much handier.
@@Lucius1958 fair enough.
Now Matt's introducing Tod on his own channel : /
@Ben Ivin Oh - I love the films they make at matt's place ;)
Seeing as it has practically instant action (as opposed to the wheellock typical on the pistols of the day) I would suppose that this was a sort of self-defence/home defence implement which can be conveniently put on the table, quickly grabbed and used in need and effective at short distances indoors. If you're faced with multiple assailants, you would also have more time to get to your sword or call for help, which helps matters at least a bit.
does not need much strength if you use a lever
There isare some flaws with the argument of the weapon being trackable.
You're assuming that the people know what kind of weapon hit the person (or that the weapon is found, but obviously an assassin would not just drop it). Even if the projectile is some kind of a hint it's still a really rare thing so people might just not know.
Also consider the long distances. Who says that the maker of the bow is even remotely close to the victim?
As far as killing-power is concerned, the bolt might be poisoned and crossbowing someone even from only a couple metres away is a lot safer than to stab them.
I still belive that you're right about it being a toy though. Just wanted to point out those points.
An assassination with this type of weapon is going to be fairly up close and so unless you have access to the target's home the attack is going to have to be done in public, so likely even if you managed to kill your target, their bodyguard, spouse, or some passerby is definitely going to notice the ornate tiny crossbow. And if you're depending on poison, the target themselves are probably going to live long enough to comment on the weapon the attacker used.
Balestrino crossbow could be used for entertainment as Todd described but you did get cheap ones of near all wood construction.
Balestrino crossbow were used for pest control & small game hunting.
They are accurate enough to hit a rat or a bird while not taking up much space & ready screwed-spanned it don't take much to add the bolt then pop it off!
An ornate Balestrino crossbow as assassins weapon is laughable though an everyday one for vermin is plausible though not my choice.
Since these little Balestrino are at hand it could be used for personal defence as better then nothing if surprised.
No one is going to carry around a full sized cross bow that can't be pre-ready spanned but Balestrino crossbow screw design allows this well be very portable.
If traveling in that time & they didn't trust early pistol technology which wet powder is useless I'd carry a Balestrino to see off bandit or modest size game.
inch depth penetration is enough to considerably harm a wild dog, wolf or human but not much else for it would do little to a boar.
Still a Balestrino with a hunting sword or large dagger is easy enough to carry without inconvenience while fashionable at the time of the 17th century.
One use for these COULD BE in a way similar to an emergency revolver like a S&W .500. Modern hunters use said revolvers as last ditch bear protection. I could see something like this being used by nobility on the hunt in a similar application
It's a steam punk apple shooter.
under the bed defensive and already loaded little weapon to startle the enemy (robber or assassin) that enters in your room while you are sleeping. it could've worked imo, just for rich people and with lots of ornaments
If it was in use before firearms--it might be a sedan chair defensive weapon? Chap pulls back curtain and lunges at you with a dagger--you shoot him in the face!
Some dude in the Amazon would roll that dart around on a poison frogs back. Then that thing sticking in you an inch would be plenty lethal.
home defense
Assassins tool? Maybe if the tip is poisoned, otherwise no. It won't kill.
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Could it be a noblewomans weapon ? it requires no strength, or training, it's small, and decorative. Doesnt even have to be for women, it could just be for nobles with no martial training.
It could also just be a status symbol, since in many (most?) cultures only the nobility were allowed to wear weapons.
A very nasty toy .