@@vanilla5554 Its not his type of game, its an amazing game of its genre but Alan Wake 2 is better for streaming within a few videos or so. Baldur's Gate 3 will take forever like Zelda. I wouldnt expect them to finish it even if they choose to stream bcuz its a long game. JS, I appreciate this game being streamed more than all of the goty nominees personally.
Ilkka Villi (Alan's face model, performance capture actor, live action actor) and Matthew Porretta (Alan's voice) are SO. DAMN. GOOD. in this game. It's a damn shame that they got snubbed for a best performance nomination at The Game Awards. Here's hoping they get some recognition for their work at some other major award show.
oh damn, I absolutely had been thinking that was his voice actor in live action the whole time. I guess he does look pretty different than Darling in Control, but I just assumed it was the beard and hair lmao
Alan's VA is an awesome singer in his own right. He sang a weird and fun 80's themed song in CONTROL called Dynamite as his character Dr. Casper Darling 😂 he's such a great actor
Poets of the Fall (and their fictional band counterpart, Old Gods of Asgard) have been SHREDDING in Remedy games since Max Payne 2. Lake was friends with the lead singer of the band and asked them to write a song for the end of that game: "Late Goodbye". This was the band's very first single. Makes me very happy that they've continued to collaborate 😊
It's crazy that Baldur's Gate 3 might be in trouble taking the GOTY crown because of a musical number. I know Alan Wake 2 is more than that but it was so unique and ballsy to take such a risk and just nails it.
@@omnizenn4559 You're talking about "LIVES ALL MORTAL LIVES, EXPIRE. SOULS GO TO THEIR DOOM..." part right? That part was more similar to Rivers in the Desert from persona than Herald of Darkness.
I would LOVE for AW2 to win GOTY but i think Baldurs Gate will win it. Alan Wake 2 should have no trouble winning best Narrative, Music, Audio Design and Direction
Alan Wake 2 is already my personal game of the year and I’ve played everything this year (RE4, Zelda, Diablo, spider man) EXCEPT BG3, I’ll get around to it. I predict Zelda will take the title though I didn’t enjoy it as much despite zelda being my favourite franchise. Whatever the case I’ve been gaming since the 90’s and I don’t think we’ve ever had a year like this for gaming. The real winners in 2023 are all of us.
Baldur's Gate absolutely deserved the GOTY award. It was literally so good that other devs voiced the narrative of "don't hold the rest of us to that standard".
"I cant imagine the person who storyboarded this and said "Im gonna make this part a music video". The funny part? It's not even the first time he's done it. Ashtray Maze in Control, and technically one area in the first game.
31:10 Alan: I need a gun! Casey: No chance. This same exchange happened in the Dark Place when Alan met Casey in that alley. After this, Casey rushed out and was killed by the Dark Presence, prob. Then we got our flashlight and gun there
The lady that appears on the TV in the Zane cutscene is Jesse Faden, the protagonist of Control. Remedy really made a whole extended universe that works on "whatever bullshit we decide to write, we'll put in the story", and it's magnificent.
There's also a reference to Remedy's other game "Quantum Break". Tim Breaker's actor, Shawn Ashmore, was in that game and so was Jesse's actress Courtney Hope. On one of the boards by Tim in the Dark Place, he mentions a dream where he says he remembers the red-headed woman and that Door seems familiar, as his role is similar to the role Lance Reddick (RIP) played in Quantum Break, Martin Hatch.
Tim Breaker refers at 1:20:00 to Quantum Break. Another game by Remedy. Mr. Door supposed to be played by Lance Reddic. But he died early this year. And Lance Reddic was also in Quantum Break. That's why Tim Break feels connected to Mr. Door somehow. Because Breaker and Mr. Door are both coming from an another reality from Quantum Break.
Well, yes and not. Mr. Door is (most likely) supposed to be the Remedy verse counterpart for Mr. Hatch, but he technically isn't Mr. Hatch, as they have no rights to the IP of Quantum Break. Same goes for Alex Casey being Alex Casey instead of Max Payne.
Thomas Zane is played by Ilkka Villi (Alan's face model, mocap and live-action) and the character uses his own voice. Whereas all the stuff he says as Alan is dubbed over by Matthew Porretta. Pretty cool bunch of performances
This is the best playthrough of the musical section that I've seen on TH-cam. You knew when to stop and watch, then continue playing. You also proceeded through without getting stuck or hung up and you knew when to comment! Great job!
I'm loving the playthrough! Glad you guys are enjoying it. Also, remember the faces that appeared on the TV in Zane's room for your eventual control playthrough
I want to say thanks to sam lake for going against the people who said to remove from the game,this part with poets of the fall, It was the best part/ the most fan and enjoyable part and also very unique, i haven't seen again something like this in any other game, i loved it!! Thanx again Sam for not letting them remove that part and thanx poets of the fall for that great song!!!!! Its just amazing and love the electric guitar in it!!!! and also the other one with saga, the summoning was great too!!! Thumbs-up!!!!! 👍👍👍
"I need to find a gun ASAP" he says, as he walks over a gun not even noticing it's there as he mistakenly believes the on screen prompt was just to close the door.
Ah yes, the episode EVERYONE waits for their favorite reactor to get so. I'm in the middle of a 3 hour lecture about sacred geometry and intrinsic number but I guess I can take an hour-and-a-half break from wringing my mind to watch you wring yours.
I think Tim Breaker when talking about his vivid dreams is about the Quantum Leap game (also made by Remedy) which the same actor is the lead character in.
I swear I remember them saying something about Quantum Break not technically being connected due to publishing (Microsoft being the QB publisher, Epic Games being the Alan Wake publisher). I could be misremembering but I think it's a similar thing which Max Payne being owned by Rockstar Games -- either way there's NO WAY you're going to have a character that is all about breaking time in one game and the same actor in another game being "Tim - e Breaker" and it not basically be the same guy. Just like Alex Casey IS May Payne but legally not due to rights, Tim Breaker totally IS Jack Joyce. Publishing rights are as wonky at the FBC, I swear to God lol
@@Kaspar.C0LDI believe Lake said in an interview that while QB rights are with Microsoft and we're always planned to be, there is an agreement that Remedy can freely hint and nudge at it, referring to it in their games. Just don't use the actual copyrighted material, and Microsoft is fine with it. I mean, in the We Sing portion, there is a section with Shifter written on the floor, another reference to QB.
Right, like I said basically the same situation with Max Payne in that they can't blatantly name drop it but they can allude to it as much as they want. Like I said, he might not technically be Jack Joyce, but he's definitely Jack Joyce. Essentially Alan Wake, Control, and Alan Wake II are all canonically connected while Quantum Break and Max Payne aren't solely because of rights issues. Without those rights concerns, though, they certainly would be all connected. I've seen _a lot_ of people be confused on that specific technical detail, but I know in all the fans head-canon Alex is Max and Tim is Jack. Even the *real world* overlaps and "bureau of control" play into the lore if you catch my meaning. It's too meta lol @@CorporalCookie
I remember seeing an interview where Sam Lake, the creative director at remedy, said he was glad Alan Wake 2 took 13 years to get made because if they had managed to make it earlier it wouldn't have been this game and I couldn't believe that he could be glad about the hell his game had been in for so long until I got to the fucking rock opera. This rules so much and I'll be so mad if it doesn't win GOTY.
If they made the game earlier, we might have just played as Alan in The Dark Place. No Bright Falls. No connection to other Remedy games except for Max Payne. Basically it's like American Nightmare but longer.
BG3 will still take GOTY, simply because of the hype and its huge middle finger to the stagnating industry. But I can't see the world, where AW2 doesn't sweep most of the awards. Creativity, direction, graphics, narration in all of those aspects it is a major contender.
I’m glad it did take 13 years to make. Did you ever see the Alan Wake 2 demo that was released a few years ago? They were really about to go all out for the sequel.
@@coupdegrace2767 Well it already won critic's choice at the golden joysticks and since GOTY at the Game Awards is 90% critic's vote, I'd at least say AW2 has a lot better of a chance of winning than a lot of people think.
Isso soo good see that U guys are invested in the story, makes me so happy to see more people really thinking forward about this game, wish you all best of life ❤
You made my night bro, show me the champion of lightttttttt!!!! SN: Experiment with which plots you use, they do more than just move the story forward. They also reveal echoes and other secrets.
1:06:40 glad you got that word of power! But yeah, you guys are still missing an echo or two in the area. The one by that police car is hard to get to as it is QUITE high up. Look for Alex Casey billboards. They often have an echo around/near them. I forget if you get an achievement for finding and viewing all 6 Alex Casey billboard shadows, but they are VERY cool. James McCaffrey's brooding dialogue + Lake's face booming over this noir-heavy New York cityscape... It is essentially a lil tease for the upcoming Max Payne 1&2 remakes lol
@@Kaspar.C0LDLegally, No. But in Quantum Break there is literally an Easter egg on a tv called the Return featuring Alex Casey and Alan Wake. Remedy being slick, slipping "Jack" in this game. 😂
It's neat that by the time you guys got to this section, the band Poets of the Fall/Old Gods of Asgard released the official versions of the songs and an official music video, too :)
It’s return cause they return back to the dark place he keeps coming back lol also Thomas Zane was a character in the first game which you obviously know nothing about watch another recap please I mean the character not the first game I’m not trying to be insulting
The segment that made this my GOTY
Same
Same, its undeniable, especially wnen you realize what its doing to decades worth of lore built up in remedy games.
can you please play Baldur's gate 3
@@vanilla5554 Its not his type of game, its an amazing game of its genre but Alan Wake 2 is better for streaming within a few videos or so. Baldur's Gate 3 will take forever like Zelda. I wouldnt expect them to finish it even if they choose to stream bcuz its a long game. JS, I appreciate this game being streamed more than all of the goty nominees personally.
@ghostmkc4045 what I don't care if he streams it or not I'm just recommending he plays it on or off video
Sam Lake's duties on this game:
1. Story concept
2. Writing
3. Directing
4. Getting face-scanned
5. Acting (live-action and mocap)
6. ... Dancing
7. BAMFing, and I'm not talking Nightcrawler.
AW2 > BG3
1:33:11 The woman on the screen is Jesse Faden, the protagonist from Control. She's also the director of the FBC.
i'm loving all the call backs to control
Ilkka Villi (Alan's face model, performance capture actor, live action actor) and Matthew Porretta (Alan's voice) are SO. DAMN. GOOD. in this game. It's a damn shame that they got snubbed for a best performance nomination at The Game Awards. Here's hoping they get some recognition for their work at some other major award show.
oh damn, I absolutely had been thinking that was his voice actor in live action the whole time. I guess he does look pretty different than Darling in Control, but I just assumed it was the beard and hair lmao
Game awards is a cynical commercial and nobody takes it seriously. Don’t worry about it. They definitely won that shit for real.
Alan's VA is an awesome singer in his own right. He sang a weird and fun 80's themed song in CONTROL called Dynamite as his character Dr. Casper Darling 😂 he's such a great actor
Poets of the Fall (and their fictional band counterpart, Old Gods of Asgard) have been SHREDDING in Remedy games since Max Payne 2. Lake was friends with the lead singer of the band and asked them to write a song for the end of that game: "Late Goodbye". This was the band's very first single. Makes me very happy that they've continued to collaborate 😊
Their name even comes from the game. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one that was getting clapped during the musical 😂
I was clapped 9 times, oh hi! 👋
41:45 - She really does have those prediction powers. Shit’s like Alan Wake, no matter how crazy, the moment it leaves her mouth it becomes reality 🤣
I’ve been a fan since they watched Avatar the first time, Sheera’s always been like that 😂
It's crazy that Baldur's Gate 3 might be in trouble taking the GOTY crown because of a musical number. I know Alan Wake 2 is more than that but it was so unique and ballsy to take such a risk and just nails it.
I doubt it to be completely honest. BG3 has a similar moment and it's not even part of the main story. Just an optional sidequest.
@@omnizenn4559 You're talking about "LIVES ALL MORTAL LIVES, EXPIRE. SOULS GO TO THEIR DOOM..." part right? That part was more similar to Rivers in the Desert from persona than Herald of Darkness.
I would LOVE for AW2 to win GOTY but i think Baldurs Gate will win it. Alan Wake 2 should have no trouble winning best Narrative, Music, Audio Design and Direction
Alan Wake 2 is already my personal game of the year and I’ve played everything this year (RE4, Zelda, Diablo, spider man) EXCEPT BG3, I’ll get around to it.
I predict Zelda will take the title though I didn’t enjoy it as much despite zelda being my favourite franchise.
Whatever the case I’ve been gaming since the 90’s and I don’t think we’ve ever had a year like this for gaming. The real winners in 2023 are all of us.
Baldur's Gate absolutely deserved the GOTY award. It was literally so good that other devs voiced the narrative of "don't hold the rest of us to that standard".
I've been watching a bunch of streamers react to "we sing" everyone loved it! hats off to Remedy, it is an amazing game and sequence
The Ashtray Maze and We Sing have cemented Remedy as one of the most creative passionate developers around, at least in my opinion.
Not Vara Dark.
I like seeing the reaction from people when enemies show up to attack during the segment, some don't even notice them until they get hit lol
The musical was Sam's Lake idea. Almost didn't happen, he fought for it to be there.
"I cant imagine the person who storyboarded this and said "Im gonna make this part a music video".
The funny part? It's not even the first time he's done it. Ashtray Maze in Control, and technically one area in the first game.
31:10 Alan: I need a gun!
Casey: No chance.
This same exchange happened in the Dark Place when Alan met Casey in that alley. After this, Casey rushed out and was killed by the Dark Presence, prob. Then we got our flashlight and gun there
The lady that appears on the TV in the Zane cutscene is Jesse Faden, the protagonist of Control. Remedy really made a whole extended universe that works on "whatever bullshit we decide to write, we'll put in the story", and it's magnificent.
Jesse Faden, the literal janitor of whatever weird stuff Sam Lake can come up with, ha ha.
There's also a reference to Remedy's other game "Quantum Break". Tim Breaker's actor, Shawn Ashmore, was in that game and so was Jesse's actress Courtney Hope. On one of the boards by Tim in the Dark Place, he mentions a dream where he says he remembers the red-headed woman and that Door seems familiar, as his role is similar to the role Lance Reddick (RIP) played in Quantum Break, Martin Hatch.
@@catswithlasers Quan-Tim Breaker-er
33:20 "I need to find a gun, ASAP!" - He says as he WALKS OVER AND AWAY FROM THE GUN ON THE FLOOR :D
Tim Breaker refers at 1:20:00 to Quantum Break. Another game by Remedy.
Mr. Door supposed to be played by Lance Reddic. But he died early this year. And Lance Reddic was also in Quantum Break. That's why Tim Break feels connected to Mr. Door somehow.
Because Breaker and Mr. Door are both coming from an another reality from Quantum Break.
Well, yes and not. Mr. Door is (most likely) supposed to be the Remedy verse counterpart for Mr. Hatch, but he technically isn't Mr. Hatch, as they have no rights to the IP of Quantum Break. Same goes for Alex Casey being Alex Casey instead of Max Payne.
@@TheJanstyler But Tim Breaker literally said that he feels like he has a connection to Warlin Door in another dimension/universe.
@Playradise I am aware. Thats why ainsaid, yes and no. No he isn't Hatch, he can't bee because of IP. Yes he is the remedy verse counterpart of Hatch.
I’ve watched so many reactions to this segment but this is the first one where finally someone has questioned why Ahti is mopping the carpet
Thomas Zane is played by Ilkka Villi (Alan's face model, mocap and live-action) and the character uses his own voice. Whereas all the stuff he says as Alan is dubbed over by Matthew Porretta. Pretty cool bunch of performances
They have GOT to perform this song at the Game Awards. Right!? Keighley would be CRAZY not to arrange that.
The guitar was going insane for the whole song 😭 no reason for that song to be so good
Roshi " I need to find a gun" also him standing on top of a guy with a gun for him to use.
This is the best playthrough of the musical section that I've seen on TH-cam. You knew when to stop and watch, then continue playing. You also proceeded through without getting stuck or hung up and you knew when to comment! Great job!
You have no idea how many times I’ve refreshed waiting for this for the past 3 days. I’m ill 😂
It’s so goofy and then when you get into combat it’s like your friend just started playing “I need a hero” while you clutch
I'll be hella mad if they don't perform the song on The Game Awards
Alan Wake 2 is not a game... is an experience.
And to think some devs wanted to not go through with the We Sing setpiece. VERY glad that Lake fought for the idea 🫡
I can't believe that i was checking every day for them to post this episode.
I'm sorry, but Roshi getting folded by the big shovel dude at 20:06 nearly killed me, I was laughing too hard at his pain 😂😂😂
Next episode for Saga is gonna be the second best part. Can’t wait for the reaction 😂
I'm loving the playthrough! Glad you guys are enjoying it. Also, remember the faces that appeared on the TV in Zane's room for your eventual control playthrough
They don’t gotta remember that.
@@GradietPanda12345 yeah they don't have to, just thought it'd be cool for them to remember it
I want to say thanks to sam lake for going against the people who said to remove from the game,this part with poets of the fall, It was the best part/ the most fan and enjoyable part and also very unique, i haven't seen again something like this in any other game, i loved it!! Thanx again Sam for not letting them remove that part and thanx poets of the fall for that great song!!!!! Its just amazing and love the electric guitar in it!!!! and also the other one with saga, the summoning was great too!!! Thumbs-up!!!!! 👍👍👍
"I need to find a gun ASAP" he says, as he walks over a gun not even noticing it's there as he mistakenly believes the on screen prompt was just to close the door.
The Musical made this Masterpiece GOTY🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah yes, the episode EVERYONE waits for their favorite reactor to get so. I'm in the middle of a 3 hour lecture about sacred geometry and intrinsic number but I guess I can take an hour-and-a-half break from wringing my mind to watch you wring yours.
Hell yeah! Was waiting to see their reaction to this part. I really hope we get a live version at the game awards.
34:05 they played a lil sting of the first game's music when Alan picked up the gun and flashlight in our world :')
I think Tim Breaker when talking about his vivid dreams is about the Quantum Leap game (also made by Remedy) which the same actor is the lead character in.
I swear I remember them saying something about Quantum Break not technically being connected due to publishing (Microsoft being the QB publisher, Epic Games being the Alan Wake publisher). I could be misremembering but I think it's a similar thing which Max Payne being owned by Rockstar Games -- either way there's NO WAY you're going to have a character that is all about breaking time in one game and the same actor in another game being "Tim - e Breaker" and it not basically be the same guy. Just like Alex Casey IS May Payne but legally not due to rights, Tim Breaker totally IS Jack Joyce. Publishing rights are as wonky at the FBC, I swear to God lol
@@Kaspar.C0LDI believe Lake said in an interview that while QB rights are with Microsoft and we're always planned to be, there is an agreement that Remedy can freely hint and nudge at it, referring to it in their games. Just don't use the actual copyrighted material, and Microsoft is fine with it.
I mean, in the We Sing portion, there is a section with Shifter written on the floor, another reference to QB.
Right, like I said basically the same situation with Max Payne in that they can't blatantly name drop it but they can allude to it as much as they want. Like I said, he might not technically be Jack Joyce, but he's definitely Jack Joyce. Essentially Alan Wake, Control, and Alan Wake II are all canonically connected while Quantum Break and Max Payne aren't solely because of rights issues. Without those rights concerns, though, they certainly would be all connected. I've seen _a lot_ of people be confused on that specific technical detail, but I know in all the fans head-canon Alex is Max and Tim is Jack. Even the *real world* overlaps and "bureau of control" play into the lore if you catch my meaning. It's too meta lol @@CorporalCookie
Quantum Break is definitely connected, Mr. Door is definitely a Shifter (probably was replacing Martin Hatch due to the Lance Reddick passing away)
I remember seeing an interview where Sam Lake, the creative director at remedy, said he was glad Alan Wake 2 took 13 years to get made because if they had managed to make it earlier it wouldn't have been this game and I couldn't believe that he could be glad about the hell his game had been in for so long until I got to the fucking rock opera. This rules so much and I'll be so mad if it doesn't win GOTY.
If they made the game earlier, we might have just played as Alan in The Dark Place. No Bright Falls. No connection to other Remedy games except for Max Payne. Basically it's like American Nightmare but longer.
BG3 will still take GOTY, simply because of the hype and its huge middle finger to the stagnating industry. But I can't see the world, where AW2 doesn't sweep most of the awards. Creativity, direction, graphics, narration in all of those aspects it is a major contender.
I’m glad it did take 13 years to make. Did you ever see the Alan Wake 2 demo that was released a few years ago? They were really about to go all out for the sequel.
@@coupdegrace2767 Well it already won critic's choice at the golden joysticks and since GOTY at the Game Awards is 90% critic's vote, I'd at least say AW2 has a lot better of a chance of winning than a lot of people think.
@@samwalters6170lmao, no. Acting like Zelda doesn’t exist.
Isso soo good see that U guys are invested in the story, makes me so happy to see more people really thinking forward about this game, wish you all best of life ❤
You made my night bro, show me the champion of lightttttttt!!!!
SN: Experiment with which plots you use, they do more than just move the story forward. They also reveal echoes and other secrets.
Ok i NEED the Old Gods of Asgard to perform at the game awards!!
That musical part was beyond amazing. I can't believe they almost cut it form the game!
1:06:40 glad you got that word of power! But yeah, you guys are still missing an echo or two in the area. The one by that police car is hard to get to as it is QUITE high up. Look for Alex Casey billboards. They often have an echo around/near them.
I forget if you get an achievement for finding and viewing all 6 Alex Casey billboard shadows, but they are VERY cool. James McCaffrey's brooding dialogue + Lake's face booming over this noir-heavy New York cityscape... It is essentially a lil tease for the upcoming Max Payne 1&2 remakes lol
If you liked Alan Wake 2, you should definitely try out Control. There’s so many callbacks to it in this game.
57:38 Alan Wake is ALWAYS strapped!! With the MAN BAG!! Lol
Kudos for being one of the few that followed the neon lights during the second part of the song. I was stuck there for while, not knowing what to do 😂
Yessir was just looking to see if yall uploaded fr
This is an awesome game. Very happy Roshi and Sheera are playing it.
Yay you finally made it to the musical I was trying my hardest not to spoil that watching you two play
got curious about this game since the game awards ngl and i have to say, i love how invested sheera is in this game!
Tim dreaming that he's someone else is because he's the main character in Quantum Break....Another game connected to Alan Wake.
Not legally IIRC. But just like Alex Casey is Max Payne, Tim Breaker is the breaker of time Jack Joyce. Publishing is worse than the FBC smh
@@Kaspar.C0LDLegally, No. But in Quantum Break there is literally an Easter egg on a tv called the Return featuring Alex Casey and Alan Wake. Remedy being slick, slipping "Jack" in this game. 😂
1:33:17 these were main character of control and dr Darling from Control as well
I didn't even know you could take someone out with the melee until I saw this
It's neat that by the time you guys got to this section, the band Poets of the Fall/Old Gods of Asgard released the official versions of the songs and an official music video, too :)
Nah, zombies using Flashstep is crazy. Regular zombies? Cool. DBZ zombies? Shoot me now 🤣
Why does he alwayd skip the end chapter songs 😢
@1:30:00 "Is that Scratch?
Well, sort of. I'm pretty sure that is Zane's Scratch. The use of The Happy Song is a giveaway.
I just finished this and went right to here! That was THE COOLEST SHI* EVER! New here. Love the video!
HELL YEAH been waiting for this for days since the last video
They was cooking bro the musical was fireee
thomas zane was the poet in the first game
All is right in the world again.
Damn new JJK episode and now this
We FEASTIN
that musical scene was hilarious.
45:43 THAT... was just part 1 lol
Yesss. Perfect thing to waste this last 2 hours of work bro
We sing stuff just blew off my mind !!
allan wake 1 had th chapter on the farm old gods record roll on 2
Thank you Roshi.
That Max Payne look alike is fire
the song from this is omg
LESSGOOOOO!!!
great vid
alan
It’s return cause they return back to the dark place he keeps coming back lol also Thomas Zane was a character in the first game which you obviously know nothing about watch another recap please I mean the character not the first game I’m not trying to be insulting
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ye boiii
Man…This got me thinking. Imagine a game based around Pink Floyd. Like “The Wall” but a game instead of a movie. 🤯🫨