DISCLAIMER: This video is my opinion on unofficial information that may or may not make it into the game. Nothing said in this video is confirmed to be happening by myself or by smilegate.
props to both Tristen and Smilegate for a little bit of transparency in regards important things related to the game like Data mine.. in previous cases we wouldve seen just a youtuber ranting about how the game sucks without taking the consideration to investigate and question properly which is also SG fault because look how easy and clear the explanation can be so we understand better without throwing random tantrums and threating to go to another game
That's all true but uhh... they tend to have videos ready a week in advance with the same prefaces. Video got delayed? There's also a slight overlooked issue with "if we break tools people get mad"... if the community relies so much on a tool, shouldn't that be 1) in-game or 2) perhaps have some low-key sanction to help stay operative? Maybe access to an internal API? Even Nintendo does this with Pokemon Showdown, and you know how little dangs they give about their gaming communities and mods/tools.
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@@raze2012_ yeah this is also true before it was all consistent I don’t know what could’ve happened the developer team got smaller and now the company has outerplane to baby sit and other two games coming up as well who knows but yeah raze maybe @Tristen can get some answers on this let’s hope at least the next balance is as good as the last one now that they delayed it for the World Cup
i think the most staple unit for this will be Green Bellona on the S2 CD EE. Her cycling is S3 -> S2 -> S1+S3 -> S2 -> S1 -> S3 -> repeat, only 1 Non-AoE in that rotation and she both gives herself constant Immu and constantly applies/reapplies Def breaks. I've been thinking Bellona Lucy Vivan Green Adin could be a very good and also more f2p team if these skills are what we'll end up with.
The boss sounds really hard to beat, but it's actually a normal thing. You're forgetting we don't have any information about the buffs that we'll get from the rifts levels. If you actually think back to the fire raid when you were level 0, yeah that was bullshit, I failed the raid half the time because it was so hard until you reached level 15 and got the anti penetration defense. But when i reached level 21 i could one cycle the boss quite consistently even though im not that great. This time around Wukong already seems like a perfect front row tank and damage dealer, by himself he deals with a lot of the boss mechanics. Bernard also seems tailored for the rift, with his barrier spam every turn that will protect your team from venoms and injuries. I havent read his s3 but i guess he has a full team cleanse. Compared to Kayn that was considered trash at the release of rift, because he was useless in the early stages, i think this rift might actually be easier.
HSR is giving me new end game content that makes older chars find a niche and become relevant. E7 is very slowly giving me new content that needs me to pull new chars. I only do RTA 1 day a season to get the skin, hoping for something todo that is not pure grinding on auto.
TBF it's more like ONE character if you want to do it in "easy mode", to this day you can clear everything with old units or a small box. The worst that happened was the Lethe/Tomocar fiasco with the dupes mechanic and it was only for some stamps.
I'm not sold on him as a Jenua counter. He may get the pen resistance but how much bulk are we realistically going to be able to build on this guy? It's still fire into grass which means Jenua gets the bonus 15% chance to crit and the bonus damage. Wukong effectively only gets 10% crit resist vs him because of this. Not to mention I've seen plenty of Jenua's on immunity so I'm not even sure his stun will be a reliable answer. Granted we haven't seen his artifact and we haven't seen his multipliers yet so who knows at this point I guess.
Depends if S2 bumps those to 50% or if they displayed the full effect. Jenua doesn't splash if he doesn't crit, and when he ignores 35% or 50% less Pen his S3, even if it crits, is going to do 5k or less, those skills only hit hard because they ignore a ton of defense. It's probably going to be difficult for Jenua to deal with him but in a 1v1 matchup Jenua probably wins, but if Wukong is properly supported, then Wukong wins. I can do 2 sets on him (Lifesteal), both 1275 defense and then either 13.5K HP and 220 speed or 17.5k HP and 180 speed (boot swap) so he should be tanky enough either way to survive Jenua's S1 + S3 but if he gets ganged up on he will still die like every other DPS unit.
I personally like Wukong Kit, will he be meta breaking IDK but I do see him being built very slow and tanky taking advantage of his S2 giving him the extra speed needed to make up for the lack of speed in items prob using characters with anti crit buff to allies is a must and his S3 is potent with a nuke and a stun can be either very broken in PVP or a niche pick against other tanky units like DB Senya and other health stacking units. overall 7/10 may be lower or higher with actual gameplay testing.
I think they specified his S1 can't be countered on his turn because he could do a dual attack and get countered. Also, I feel like the penetration resistance means that Armour Pen attacks penetrate for 35% less, instead of 35% chance to ignore the penetration.
I don't care if he's counter for who and don't counter for who, I'll pull for him because of how cool he looks. Don't even care if he's not OP of great.
Penetration Resist.. looks like we know where the game will be headed next. I blame Jenua. Now that they introduced it, more units will have Pen Resist, and to counter that the next Jenua-like will probably do increase damage instead. The cycle will never stop
Looking to get into e7 again, think i missed the boat again event wise though, so prolly gonna wait till there is another event with some free pulls, unit looks cool !
I will be getting him cuz his kit looks really fun. Keep in mind that Ravi completely counters him since she will not be stunned by his s3, she always crits, his s1 is earth, and Ravi is too tanky in the end too, while not needing pen damage to deal her dmg. So avoid picking him too early in RTA.
I dont care if Wukong is only a rift unit, i dont care if he cant counter or semi-counter jenua, i dont care if he's not meta and will become like that vampire fire rift only unit and i dont care about "but the new limited summer banner is coming" As a Robot/monster enjoyer, i will roll for him and i will max both him and his artifact And fine SG, i buy your pack
I just think they should buff crit units, like if you have over 100% you get more chances of hitting anti crit units or something like that. I feel like I got no options rn, every hero that I use is a non crit unit or a guaranteed crit unit while smilegate adds more and more anti crit units.
new rift seems insane, good thing im not gonna do it lol seriously though i get they want to add hard mode stuff for top tier players but it just shuts out people who arent at that level
The way they are doing this (presenting the problem and sell the solution) is literally a netmarble move 7ds Grand cross have this endgame content where u need specific units to clear it.
the one thing i want from RIFT is the buffs to be more impactful/fun the last Rift buffs were kinda bad and only 1 good choice or in some cases no good choice. give us fun buffs that kinda make us op and don't have to use a 3 star SW cuz we have too.
@kianakaslana7240 Idk haha just thinking she could take a "tank-ish" role with provoking the tentacles along with her S1 EE for sustain since it heals based on her attack and not damage (good for this boss since single attacks do next to nothing)
Provide Bellona with barrier and stealth and she should be easy to keep free from injuries while doing AOE. I don't think you want Bloodstone because you can't heal much through injuries, better to keep refreshing barriers and stealth which reduces aoe damage.
His look is insane, his kit isn't my thing. After lethe banner, that i really wanted, i hope he's not going to end up being necessary for anything cause i have no idea how to get him.
I was full broke these last 2 month. Had bought BMs from shop to get triple banner which got me sum MM. Lo & behold, i got DBSenya. I didn't even want her, i have 0 resources to sustain this growing harem
Hoping for changes upon release 😢 I really hate SG's boss designing. No fun/interesting mechanics to play around, they just stack boss with all bullshit available in the game: uncleansable debuffs, unstrippable buffs, auto cleanses/turn reduction for debuffs, cr pushes for every our action, cd reduction, no dual attacks, no FS (soon focus to be added), no evasion AND we have to deal with FCKING 15% on top of all this. With so many restrictions, there is very few heroes usable so of course they make new hero to sell solution for problem. Then watch how next balance patch is gonna be 4/5 heroes and 2 artis all for rift instead of good proper buffs. (PLS let me be wrong)
People forgetting that Yulha can (with some assistance) counter Jenua are crazy... and to avoid making wukong a liar you can pair him with ml celine or abigail
Hey tristen! Love your content thank you:) An off topic question: Do you think or know why we arent able to buy the beautiful summer lobby theme again? I dont have it but i wanna buy it so badly. Or do you know if they ever rerelease it or can you ask a friend of smilegate? Keep up your videos please❤❤
They should my him free from rifts for rifts, once you get lvl 8 you get a free one. Something they should've done with Kang since he wasn't real good till lvl 15ish.
I think we gonna use bellona, vildred and the new masked dude in that fight. Maybe a healer taking damage in the frontline? Still too early to know I just hope this isn't a fight that relies on def. break to be done with few entries at the end, when we are at maximum level. That made me a little frustrated in the last rift.
I think game is heading into dangerous waters with every new ml and limiteds because the rift betwin average player and whale expanding I saw this before in summoner wars and that game is prety much dead .Ohh one more thing could you make all guides for trea of genesis?
"He is mid" Guess we will find out next week. If so SG will be dealing with CN players not taking this disrespect lightly to one of the most iconic mythology figure.
Doesn't water rift imply only water units can enter? Just like Fire Rift? Woe be you if you don't have Diene Edit: it's earth? They just skipped water? On the kraken???
Im fine with the idea of a "Mandatory character" If theyre a 3* like Bernard Wukong being a 5* feels kinda scummy Unless theyre giving us maybe a lot of free pulls to celebrate his release/anniversary, in which case i think its probably fine
Pfff i hate rift like you cant use dual attack units , you cant use evasion units , you cant use single target unit , you cant use fighting spirit units , no counters ..... Just stop it already and fix your game instead of limiting our unit pool by 80%-90%. Just like last time there will only be 1-2 variants of a team that you can use and if you dont have a unit needed for this team then tough luck. unfun.
DISCLAIMER: This video is my opinion on unofficial information that may or may not make it into the game. Nothing said in this video is confirmed to be happening by myself or by smilegate.
Where is the Summer Tristen???
Summer Thirsten*
props to both Tristen and Smilegate for a little bit of transparency in regards important things related to the game like Data mine.. in previous cases we wouldve seen just a youtuber ranting about how the game sucks without taking the consideration to investigate and question properly which is also SG fault because look how easy and clear the explanation can be so we understand better without throwing random tantrums and threating to go to another game
That's all true but uhh... they tend to have videos ready a week in advance with the same prefaces. Video got delayed?
There's also a slight overlooked issue with "if we break tools people get mad"... if the community relies so much on a tool, shouldn't that be 1) in-game or 2) perhaps have some low-key sanction to help stay operative? Maybe access to an internal API?
Even Nintendo does this with Pokemon Showdown, and you know how little dangs they give about their gaming communities and mods/tools.
@@raze2012_ yeah this is also true before it was all consistent I don’t know what could’ve happened the developer team got smaller and now the company has outerplane to baby sit and other two games coming up as well who knows but yeah raze maybe @Tristen can get some answers on this let’s hope at least the next balance is as good as the last one now that they delayed it for the World Cup
I think the pen resistance is more that pen effects only ignore half the amount there meant to
I agree, I think it's a flat 50% reduction to any Pen effect
u must be genius to be the only one that realised/understand what its mean
i think the most staple unit for this will be Green Bellona on the S2 CD EE. Her cycling is S3 -> S2 -> S1+S3 -> S2 -> S1 -> S3 -> repeat, only 1 Non-AoE in that rotation and she both gives herself constant Immu and constantly applies/reapplies Def breaks.
I've been thinking Bellona Lucy Vivan Green Adin could be a very good and also more f2p team if these skills are what we'll end up with.
Thank you for the talk about Datamines, i think that's really important for the entire community to hear
The boss sounds really hard to beat, but it's actually a normal thing. You're forgetting we don't have any information about the buffs that we'll get from the rifts levels. If you actually think back to the fire raid when you were level 0, yeah that was bullshit, I failed the raid half the time because it was so hard until you reached level 15 and got the anti penetration defense. But when i reached level 21 i could one cycle the boss quite consistently even though im not that great.
This time around Wukong already seems like a perfect front row tank and damage dealer, by himself he deals with a lot of the boss mechanics. Bernard also seems tailored for the rift, with his barrier spam every turn that will protect your team from venoms and injuries. I havent read his s3 but i guess he has a full team cleanse.
Compared to Kayn that was considered trash at the release of rift, because he was useless in the early stages, i think this rift might actually be easier.
So glad its a dude. I need a longer break, Overlord impact still is felt on my account.
New rift new wukane
u dey mad?
Another -600 cov and -20 mola classic
Really gumi tier move
Smash, next question
HSR is giving me new end game content that makes older chars find a niche and become relevant. E7 is very slowly giving me new content that needs me to pull new chars. I only do RTA 1 day a season to get the skin, hoping for something todo that is not pure grinding on auto.
TBF it's more like ONE character if you want to do it in "easy mode", to this day you can clear everything with old units or a small box. The worst that happened was the Lethe/Tomocar fiasco with the dupes mechanic and it was only for some stamps.
i hope the runes/artifacts in rift will be adjusted accordingly :o
I'm not sold on him as a Jenua counter. He may get the pen resistance but how much bulk are we realistically going to be able to build on this guy? It's still fire into grass which means Jenua gets the bonus 15% chance to crit and the bonus damage. Wukong effectively only gets 10% crit resist vs him because of this. Not to mention I've seen plenty of Jenua's on immunity so I'm not even sure his stun will be a reliable answer. Granted we haven't seen his artifact and we haven't seen his multipliers yet so who knows at this point I guess.
Depends if S2 bumps those to 50% or if they displayed the full effect. Jenua doesn't splash if he doesn't crit, and when he ignores 35% or 50% less Pen his S3, even if it crits, is going to do 5k or less, those skills only hit hard because they ignore a ton of defense. It's probably going to be difficult for Jenua to deal with him but in a 1v1 matchup Jenua probably wins, but if Wukong is properly supported, then Wukong wins.
I can do 2 sets on him (Lifesteal), both 1275 defense and then either 13.5K HP and 220 speed or 17.5k HP and 180 speed (boot swap) so he should be tanky enough either way to survive Jenua's S1 + S3 but if he gets ganged up on he will still die like every other DPS unit.
60% speed....hes gonna be lapping
60% attack...and slapping
sounds like we know where our buff patch is going Aware
can't wait to run wukong, bernard, bellona, and verdant adin in rift
Another challenger for our savior tristenwulf.
Pen res means Jen's s3 will only ignore 50% def instead of 100%
I personally like Wukong Kit, will he be meta breaking IDK but I do see him being built very slow and tanky taking advantage of his S2 giving him the extra speed needed to make up for the lack of speed in items prob using characters with anti crit buff to allies is a must and his S3 is potent with a nuke and a stun can be either very broken in PVP or a niche pick against other tanky units like DB Senya and other health stacking units. overall 7/10 may be lower or higher with actual gameplay testing.
MECHA ARMOR UNIT, LESS GOOOOOO
New Injury recovery unit? Is it coming? Looking like its going to clear all injury.
Remember Anti Crit buff and innate anti crit dont stack. They are multiple rolls checks
Awesome I really like seeing content creators still making epic seven vids! Thank you!!! I know your buddy’s with Car6 is he done making content?
I think they specified his S1 can't be countered on his turn because he could do a dual attack and get countered.
Also, I feel like the penetration resistance means that Armour Pen attacks penetrate for 35% less, instead of 35% chance to ignore the penetration.
I don't care if he's counter for who and don't counter for who, I'll pull for him because of how cool he looks. Don't even care if he's not OP of great.
Penetration Resist.. looks like we know where the game will be headed next. I blame Jenua. Now that they introduced it, more units will have Pen Resist, and to counter that the next Jenua-like will probably do increase damage instead. The cycle will never stop
That 'Kraken' is clearly Cthulhu inspired no?
Looking to get into e7 again, think i missed the boat again event wise though, so prolly gonna wait till there is another event with some free pulls, unit looks cool !
I will be getting him cuz his kit looks really fun. Keep in mind that Ravi completely counters him since she will not be stunned by his s3, she always crits, his s1 is earth, and Ravi is too tanky in the end too, while not needing pen damage to deal her dmg. So avoid picking him too early in RTA.
Ravi is ass bro. What are you smoking.
I dont care if Wukong is only a rift unit, i dont care if he cant counter or semi-counter jenua, i dont care if he's not meta and will become like that vampire fire rift only unit and i dont care about "but the new limited summer banner is coming"
As a Robot/monster enjoyer, i will roll for him and i will max both him and his artifact
And fine SG, i buy your pack
Green Bellona was one of my earliest best characters.
would Vivian be good here? If each AOE kills a tenticle. Vivian would be able to do at least 3 in a row.
Bellona seems amazing as AoE dmg and Def Breaker. I think my team will be Bellona, Ray and Wukong. I need to figure out the 4th unit.
I just think they should buff crit units, like if you have over 100% you get more chances of hitting anti crit units or something like that. I feel like I got no options rn, every hero that I use is a non crit unit or a guaranteed crit unit while smilegate adds more and more anti crit units.
new rift seems insane, good thing im not gonna do it lol
seriously though i get they want to add hard mode stuff for top tier players but it just shuts out people who arent at that level
The way they are doing this (presenting the problem and sell the solution) is literally a netmarble move
7ds Grand cross have this endgame content where u need specific units to clear it.
the one thing i want from RIFT is the buffs to be more impactful/fun the last Rift buffs were kinda bad and only 1 good choice or in some cases no good choice.
give us fun buffs that kinda make us op and don't have to use a 3 star SW cuz we have too.
Spez angle ! GIGACHAD
Sorry to say this but it green units only
@@minato3744 yea ik, its just the stun part so its him + Spez in rta Kappa
Alright, so for this Chinese Anniversary special hero, we're going with a Monkey King vibe inspired by Chinese folklore.
You think green Senya would be a decent choice here? Was thinking with her AOE barriers and passive anti crit she'd be alright.
But what damage is she gonna do.
@kianakaslana7240 Idk haha just thinking she could take a "tank-ish" role with provoking the tentacles along with her S1 EE for sustain since it heals based on her attack and not damage (good for this boss since single attacks do next to nothing)
Oh yeah, it's Green Bellona time
Provide Bellona with barrier and stealth and she should be easy to keep free from injuries while doing AOE. I don't think you want Bloodstone because you can't heal much through injuries, better to keep refreshing barriers and stealth which reduces aoe damage.
i see this as a win against stealth units
He's also be a good tank killer like Straze.
His look is insane, his kit isn't my thing. After lethe banner, that i really wanted, i hope he's not going to end up being necessary for anything cause i have no idea how to get him.
I was full broke these last 2 month. Had bought BMs from shop to get triple banner which got me sum MM. Lo & behold, i got DBSenya. I didn't even want her, i have 0 resources to sustain this growing harem
Hoping for changes upon release 😢
I really hate SG's boss designing. No fun/interesting mechanics to play around, they just stack boss with all bullshit available in the game: uncleansable debuffs, unstrippable buffs, auto cleanses/turn reduction for debuffs, cr pushes for every our action, cd reduction, no dual attacks, no FS (soon focus to be added), no evasion AND we have to deal with FCKING 15% on top of all this.
With so many restrictions, there is very few heroes usable so of course they make new hero to sell solution for problem. Then watch how next balance patch is gonna be 4/5 heroes and 2 artis all for rift instead of good proper buffs. (PLS let me be wrong)
People forgetting that Yulha can (with some assistance) counter Jenua are crazy... and to avoid making wukong a liar you can pair him with ml celine or abigail
Yuhla dont work well because solitis have dispel on s1 and jenua is always paired with annoying heroes
Hey tristen! Love your content thank you:)
An off topic question:
Do you think or know why we arent able to buy the beautiful summer lobby theme again? I dont have it but i wanna buy it so badly. Or do you know if they ever rerelease it or can you ask a friend of smilegate?
Keep up your videos please❤❤
Who let them cook? Outerplane devs with their special 8 turns debuffs bypassing er and passives?
They should my him free from rifts for rifts, once you get lvl 8 you get a free one. Something they should've done with Kang since he wasn't real good till lvl 15ish.
Hopefully there's a killable ally so Vadel will be useful but most likely not. Yuflin might be good. If you get souls Ram can be good.
not being able to complete Rift because you're missing a new unit would be awful.
i imagine one of the cores will be anti crit/pen at least
I hope they add bm and ss drop in rift
Why does Huche show up? Is it for limited/collab and new heroes?
Yep always been the case , sometimes for a hyped up ml hero
to milk your skystones right before they drop a new ML 5 or limited
Immune to any damage, can only be destroyed by Jenua :D
Do you think attack boots w/ the speed set on Sun Wukong will work? I have these amazing attack boots that have 20 speed sitting in my storage.
Awh the summer Trist skin expired :/ rip
Wow so I can finally save resources?
I think we gonna use bellona, vildred and the new masked dude in that fight. Maybe a healer taking damage in the frontline? Still too early to know
I just hope this isn't a fight that relies on def. break to be done with few entries at the end, when we are at maximum level. That made me a little frustrated in the last rift.
I'm just gonna call Wukong Goku from now on. I mean, it's literally the same lol
Wait so the reason fribbels broke was because they tried to implement measures against data mining?
WARFRAME GOTY
oh no, hes hot
Jecht might actually shine here if you don't have Bernard
warframe wukong prime
ahora solo falta un hombre lobo
Ok is this going to be a constant thing? Cool looking muscular male unit comes out = pve/rift. 😢
I think game is heading into dangerous waters with every new ml and limiteds because the rift betwin average player and whale expanding I saw this before in summoner wars and that game is prety much dead .Ohh one more thing could you make all guides for trea of genesis?
Do you think senya will be good for the new rift?
"He is mid" Guess we will find out next week. If so SG will be dealing with CN players not taking this disrespect lightly to one of the most iconic mythology figure.
even s1 has god tier animation
loser charles : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
there is ray?
Doesn't water rift imply only water units can enter? Just like Fire Rift?
Woe be you if you don't have Diene
Edit: it's earth? They just skipped water? On the kraken???
Giant rat gun 😂
Belian
bellyout
can we get bikini Tristen for summer event
Green wildred
Lethe too busy in the event to keep her kraken in check smh also is Bernard free ? Cus how we doing this ?
Im fine with the idea of a "Mandatory character"
If theyre a 3* like Bernard
Wukong being a 5* feels kinda scummy
Unless theyre giving us maybe a lot of free pulls to celebrate his release/anniversary, in which case i think its probably fine
Pfff i hate rift like you cant use dual attack units , you cant use evasion units , you cant use single target unit , you cant use fighting spirit units , no counters ..... Just stop it already and fix your game instead of limiting our unit pool by 80%-90%. Just like last time there will only be 1-2 variants of a team that you can use and if you dont have a unit needed for this team then tough luck. unfun.
Sounds like RTA rn, only two viable teams to play
This do not sound fun :(
Epic Seven has so much bullshit in his PvE that I don't even bother. Worst PvE I have ever seen in a gacha game lmao