As a life long Ford Falcon guy - yeah, these things are right up there. You just have to respect what they stand for. Not just from a performance point of view but it’s historical significance too.
No wonder you guys are killing it with your car reviews, so entertaining and informative, Big fan, I am 76 and have been looking at car reviews since I was 12, well done.
When I lived in the US I had a 2015 SS in perfect blue. I loved absolutely everything about that car and it had many things about it to love. The dealer at the time had only two left and he took $11,000 off the price. What a great day that was and the day I had to sell it to return to Europe was a very sad day. Wish I still had it. If anyone reading this is thinking about getting one, if you can find one with decent miles do it, it’s a blast
FINALLY. A video about the VFs. Long story short, I drove a Camry for YEARS. YEARS! I didn't care about cars or Commodores at all, until I drove one. Should anyone buy one. Yes. Absolutely while you still can, YES. I drove a friend of mines VF SS. A month later I sold that Camry and went and purchased my VF S2 LS3. I'm late as hell to this party. I've owned this car for just over a year now. What an absolute weapon of a car. I love that car more than anything. Worth every penny. Every single person I know has their opinion about it. Once I let them have a drive of it, they absolute love it. You cannot beat a good old-fashioned SS, especially the last batch of VFs. Beautiful car. Practical. Sounds amazing even for stock, and most importantly Drop a gear and disappear. UP THE COMMODRE!
"Why are we driving SUV's, this is heaps better" Absolutely. People drive SUV's because it's some sort of 'mines bigger than yours' cock off. The loss of Commodore and Falcon is a tragedy we will never recover from.
@@Low760i still get confused on mazda’s stubbornness not to make not even the mazadaspeed6 RWD, i know it would take plenty of money to research and develop RWD stuff but damn it’s a shame they’re fwd
It kills me that there's enough interest in Ute's for every company under the sun to sink multi millions in R&D, yet your average 70k Ranger/Hilux couldn't even overtake a Hyundai i30 on the road, that's not the point of them, but for that much money you expect to be able to still beat a sub 30k or less hatchback.
If you can’t afford a V8 the Sv6 option especially in Sportswagon trim is still a great car. I have a 2013 VF1 in Regal Peacock Green (a fairly rare colour) now with 185,000 km on the clock. It’s been super reliable great on fuel, long term average is 10 litres per 100 km and it’s a normal suburban car. On a long trip I’ve seen between 6.5 to 7 litres per 100km. Everything interior wise still fresh and wearing very well. Redriven I hope you give this underdog model some love as despite lacking a v8 they’re a bloody good value car for what they are. Adam if you ever visit Melbourne I’d love you to test drive it. I’m 45 and I vow to keep this car till I’m ready to hand my license in. For the weekends I solve my fetish for V8 power with a low mileage 2008 Wm Grange. Both fine specimens of Australian automotive history along with the Falcon, Mitsubishi 380, etc.
Wonderful cars..I bought my SSVRedline one month before factory closed in 2017..Still fun to drive and as the guy says in the video the standard 6.2 ltr motor is more than enough power. Growing up with and driving with Fairlane ZC 351 Windsor and Kingswood 308 wagon I always loved V8 power .
As a young man growing up in NZ owning JDM performance cars and having that mindset that V8 commodores were shithouse, coming to Aus and amercing myself in Straya culture, straight off the plane and into a EL Falcon (cheap) which was like a land yacht that spat the dummy within a few months, into a Crewmen alloytec which wasn’t bad, should’ve got the V8 one but still served me well, into a VE HSV which 10yrs later I still own and has now 230k and still goes as strong as it did 10yrs ago, The Commodores (LS) and falcons (Barras) are formidable vehicles which deserve to be celebrated and treasured for a long time
Thanks Adam and team, ive been waiting for this one. We have 2 of these in the family (1 V6, 1 V8) and both have been absolutely outstanding. Every time i put my food down in the V8 i smile. Thank you for such an honest and respectful review.
I used to get the SV6 for company rentals. I remember being so impressed with the build quality and driving balance. It felt sad that after all the iterations, the final model felt like something that could match the Euros.
I had a series 1 Redline for 5 years and it was totally reliable hardly any issues, I was looking at getting rid of it and was looking at the German makes, in the end I sold it and bought a series 2 Redline still love driving it nothing comes close to bang for you buck.
Great clip, you put into words everything I feel when I drive my V8 . I don’t need it, can’t make use of the power, just take it out occasionally but it just gives me so much pleasure having it in the garage.
your VE SS Ute review convinced me to buy a 2008 VE SSV ute, 80,000km on the clock and stock from factory, amazing car ! will get to enjoy it for many years.
I absolutely love my SSV VF Series 2. Mine is totally stock and immaculate with 40,000kms. Still drives like new and still as powerful as ever. I also have a SV6 VF s2 sportswagon and that's a work horse with over 170,000 and going strong. The Auto in the SV6 is getting a little rough on the occasional swift but both great cars. Nice review mate
You should give the auto in the SV6 a service as it's probably low on fluid, causing the rough shifts... They're sealed for life units according to Holden though that is B.S, so I'd get it done ASAP before actual problems start happening to the transmission...
I bought a WN Caprice V Series 2 with the LS3 new in 2016 and its just about the perfect car for long trips - huge boot, comfortable and roomy, heaps of power and 10 litres per 100 kms on the highway and able to withstand the roughest of Australian rural roads! I recently considered buying a new car but couldn't find anything much that readily matched the Caprice with regard to long trips ability.
I own a Motorsport Edition. Holden manufactured 1200 Motorsport Edition cars before they closed the factory. It is an Australian classic, no one can deny it.
I still drive an old commodore from early 2000's. Over 250km still going strong LOL. I like it, feel like people move out of the way when im on the road (even though i dont drive aggressively) LOL
Experience that too with people moving out of the way and I never rides anyones arse on the road. They just see this bright orange Commodore and move over. If I drive the same in my Mazda 6 wagon, they just ignore me, so its definitely the car. :)
I own a '14 SS in the US that I've rebadged to being a Holden. What a phenomenal car! It feels solid and has been reliable and is the perfect balance of everything. It's fun to drive without being dangerous, roomy and comfortable, loads of technology and refinement that still hold up today, and it looks so sexy. It's eye catching without being overdone and I get comments from passerbys regularly. My biggest complaints are the horrendous fuel economy (was expected with this size engine) and parts supply in the US is challenging. Otherwise, it's the perfect car. What a high note for Holden to end on
@@Bens_Dad_Xo Hey there. It wouldn't have been me. I only purchased mine in 2021 and rebadged it in 2022. There's quite a few in the US with the Holden badging
I have a series 1 ss storm. 230,000 kms now. Bought it with 30,000kms on the clock. Mine has the flex fuel and has been running on e10 the entire time. Still running beautiful as a daily for the wife. More economical than a BA falcon six. Almost due for a refresh and a cam. Very accurate review, well done Redriven.
I have a Series 1 Calais V L77 with over 200,000kms and have done cam, valves springs with DOD delete, air intake and full exhaust system. The thing moves hard! Ive got the Harrop 2300 waiting to be Installed. They are a good car the VF best Aussie car made.
It's about time we've seen an Australia car on the channel. 😊 please I'd love to see more holdens on the channel. Good on yah Jim for going into such detail about the mechanicals.
I bought a 2017 VF SS new awesome car which I only drive on weekends. The LS3 is such a powerful motor for a stock car. Prices will increase in time. Always been a Holden man.
I owned a VF HSV GTS since new and only recently sold it. The interior was still in perfect nick and the only issues after 9 years of ownership were related to normal wear and tear such as break pads, tyres etc. I absolutely loved that car.
Hi Redriven, i'd be highly interested to see a review on the Mistsubishi 380, as they are a fairly old car now, and there are no other reviews of these cars online. I'd like to learn a little bit more about them. Thank you.
Can attest to the statement of holden throwing everything at the VF and VF2 with regards to technical stuff. I have a 2014 My 15 poverty pack VF evoke that has the same tech features as some higher end model cars. I brought it n 2019 with 80k on the clock for $14k, I was blown away by all the technical crap it had it had as I always associated poverty pack commodores to just have the bare essentials.
I bought my VF2 SSV Redline Sportwagon 40 years after my first car which was a 64 EH 179 wagon. The EH was great but the new iteration of what most families i grew up amounst in the 60's is bloody outstanding. It handles very well for a big car, can carry a load, is pretty quick off the line and is also very comfortable to drive long distance with limo-like quality. Sad to see Holden is no longer with us but glad to see they went out on such a high note. I can't recommend the last Commodore more highly. Chris
I know someone who owned a VF Series I SS ute (manual) - apparently you'd already be doing 110 by the time you shifted into third, so I guess even the "normal" SS can't really be used properly on our roads. Would still love a Series II SS, though.
Series 1 VF had much taller gearing in the quest for fuel economy. VFII was a tad more practical for the speed limits, but does burn more fuel in the process. You are right though, that any of these cars can quickly get over the speed limit without a lot of effort from the driver.
Was a Holden Service Manager back in the day and the Aussie Commodores were the only decent cars they made. Still not perfect but a well kept and/or cherished one is quite a special car. The worst thing about them is often the kind of people who own/owned them. Also, forgot to mention to check the car for belt slap. ;)
As someone who drives the ute verison of the VF, if you can buy one they're great! Surprisingly very practical with the tray (on the some what larger side) but actually quite easy to maneuver in traffic! I've found they're quite easy to modify whether that's performance or cosmetics and there are thousands of aftermarket parts for these. Loving every moment of owning one of these!
I picked up a Series 2 VF SSV Redline edition in September and it was everything I could've hoped for. Since done an exhaust intake tune and put some coilovers in it and it is amazing now. Holden really got this car right.
3 years ago, traded a 2008 G6ET, for a 2017 LS3 Calais, it was like going from a 20th century car into a 21st century car, but replacing the harmonic balancer after 63k kms.
Heh yup, Lifters in the ls3, the fuel pump - i mean why, why did gm make it that difficult to replace. The gearbox and injectors would the things that havent YET gone on mine. Expensive but worth every cent, fantastic car.
You can't beat a classic like this, you can feel the power and gear changes, that sense the road is yours, new hybrids and ev's simply cannot compare. Up coming drivers that go for the new hybrids and ev's won't truly feel what it really is to drive a real car
Great review, we really lost some great cars when holden and ford shut doors here. Its amazing when I take out my 2000 VX HSV GTS how many people actually turn heads these days, let alone how roomy it is compared to modern cars! But also when its 1 of 287 built in that generation it is also becoming stressful to take out with how bad people are at driving haha
Definitely worthy. Drove a 375 optioned director, what an awesome and fun car to drive. Great sound and quick but not crazily so like this 547 version. You could actually get up it and have some fun.
I bought the 8th last VF Maloo R8 built #1372 brand new in Sept 2015. I had a bit of a nightmare with my car. It’s got an LS3. Under 100,000 KM the oil pump failed. Holden took the car and had it for a couple of weeks. They “fixed” the engine. Until last year when the car started misfiring and playing up. It had been serviced regularly and always on time or before. I took it to a mechanic that knows these engines backwards. The car was making weird noises. An inspection showed the lifters had failed and that the car had not been fixed properly by Holden when the oil pump failed. In the opinion of my mechanics the car had been “patched up”. Considering it cost me over $90,000 new I was most unimpressed. I contacted Holden who after some debate back and forward refused to speak to my mechanic about the issue. I then found out the while engine was “stuffed”. Two mechanics who work at the workshop where my car was an actually were Holden trained mechanics and worked at the workshop where the car had originally been repaired after the oil pump. Holden refused to speak to them and said “you’ve not had it serviced at Holden so we cannot help you”. They also told me that “I couldn’t hurt their reputation as they don’t sell cars anymore and that they were unable or I assist me”. I advised her there is proof that Holden did a dodgy job repairing my car after the oil pump failure but they weren’t interested and would not chat to my mechanic at all. She said they would only speak to Holden trained mechanics to which I took great pleasure advising her that two of the mechanics working on my car are in fact Holden trained to which was a tad taken aback but still refused to speak to them. That was it. Great customer service right there 😡Anyway I had the cash luckily to get engine completely rebuilt. The only thing original was the block. The timing chain guide was floating around in the sump as your mechanic mentioned can happen. I’ve taken this opportunity to get a nice lumpy cam put in, new exhaust, new everything but was so disappointed by Holden’s attitude and refusal to look at the service history etc. Anyway I have my car back, it’s better than it was new and I’m happy with it but with crappy customer care like that I can see what Holden went out of business. The lady at Holden who had to call me said that she “hated her job” as “all we say is no to people” 😳Great video. I’ve just had the injectors and fuel pump replaced too. It runs well now but Holden’s appalling customer service and support was very disappointing to say the least.
Made you swear when you put your foot down, LOL. I own series 2 Redline since new and it has been very reliable car. There was a dodgy batch of injectors which were replaced under warranty by Holden at about 20,000 km. Also they replaced the harmonic balancer 3 times but it still wobbles. Next service I get an aftermarket one fitted and that will sort it out. I don't think I could ever part with this car. Makes me happy every time I drive it and I owned more than 20 cars in my life, including German ones. This one is my favoured.
I don't know about Down Under, but in the US, the VF (Chevy SS) has become a prime target for thieves. Thank you push button start. Glad I kept my VE (G8). And would I buy another? You bet! I'm on my 5th so far.
This brings tears to my Eyes I recently traded my VF 2017 series 2 sv6 ex cop for a VF SSV 2017 6.2 l supercharged W547 with only 12000 kms had it for a week the price to run was to much for me to afford fuel gauge was like a Speedo it just went down Everytime I put on the gas, I ended up buying my ex cop sv6 and now it feels right I’m happy once again knowing I can afford to run this at this time with struggling life we have today.
I took that chance two weeks ago. After owning a VN Balina, VS acclaim and a VE Calais (all V6s), I bought a VF series 2 Calais V with 6.2ltr with 67000 on the clock. . I always wanted a V8 and finally I have one. Love it.
Great video. Best thing I've done was to sell the Aurion and buy one of the last produced VF2s in manual. Puts a smile on my dial every time I enter. I chuck some Liqui Moly fuel cleaner/conditioner every 10000 to keep the system clean and run it on 98. Definitely noticed the difference when I put it in first time and no issues with injectors.
This is the only car that I would buy instead of a Lexus LC500. I am not a GMH fan, but this car is a legend. I would love to take it over the Mt Cotton Hillclimb. Change of underwear would be necessary after the run.
I own a VFII SSV Redline manual that I bought new (factory order) and I love it. Mine has a Harrop Stage 3 upgrade (otrcai, headers, exhaust, tune) and makes an easy 400 rwhp and only uses around 9 lph on the hwy and 11.5lph around town. I've bought new V8 Commodores since the VR SS in 1994 and they have all served me well. The series 2 V8 uses the Tremec TR6060 manual gearbox, which is much better than the previous BT56 manual box. I've had no issues with mine, which has done 70000km and been across Australia twice.
Later model Commodore and Falcon/Territory seem a lot better put together. I'm not into the Ford v Holden thing, I'd own either. Current ride is 2015 petrol Territory but VF looks and drives nice... pity they're gone
@@schrenk-d. It wasn’t a real Commodore. Holden should have had the respect to retire the nameplate when local production ceased. Ford did it for the Falcon and it wasn’t even an Australian nameplate!
@@jamestorrens645The ZB isn’t Australian, wasn’t built here and the argument stands that Holden Australia should have retired the name plate. Every commodore previous got better, and more powerful with each new iteration. The ZB was a backward step. Look at what a second hand ZB is worth, then look at the VF market. It’s a chalk and cheese comparison. The Vf was and always will be the last Australian built muscle car.
I bought a VF2 Redline Wagon new, you nailed what it’s like to drive. I’d add that the chassis flexed as a wagon, you’d hear the doors rub against the rubbers turning into the local servo. The engine was great, but I can’t understand why the market values them so highly.
I remember Doug demuro made a video about why the Chevy SS failed in the US. Basically no marketing and far too much competition for its price point over there.
The VE Commodore was sold as a Pontiac in the US and the VF was sold as a Chevy SS. They are generally raved about over there and hardly anyone even realised that GM were selling the Chevy SS and they were heavily discounting them, now they are nearly as sought after in the US as they are here.
They're such an honest simple down to earth car. I've got a VF GTS and a VE SSV. I've got euro V8s too but having local supports is very handy. I know these cars aren't for everyone but then again I'm not a one eyed fanboy.
Hi Adam. The car that you reviewed here is no where near worth $140K. A Motorsport with very low kilometres are priced around the $100k mark and a Motorsport with 60,000 km are priced around $75k. Holden Commodores with modifications even if they have been done by Walkinshaw do not add value to the vehicle as buyers who are paying top price are looking for originality. Another thing you missed Adam was the sunglasses holder which this car has and most VF Commodores do which is above the mirror. I own a VF2 Redline Ute and my biggest fear is electrical problems. I have already replaced a module and I can see how finding these things in years to come will be difficult. But in saying that I think this will be a problem for most modern cars in years to come considering how much electric systems that most modern cars contain.
@@ReDriventhere’s one for sale I saw two days ago, never been registered, stored in a climate controlled display. Pre delivery stickers not removed $105k (a brand new Motorsport)
I've got a turbo with same power and it's fine the power is very usable.. it's probably because of the torque coming in to quickly. My XR6 turbo has probably got more torque but it's coming in higher in the rev range which makes it much more usable
Yeah we didn't get anything after 2014 at least, but I gotta say, these new ones are quite expensive cos that 140K AUD is like 1.7M here so paying that much for SS
I have the V8 series 2 , 2017 which I bought for my retirement, always bought Holdens from the early models . This V8 is by far the best car ever built by Holden . My daily car is a VE series 2 2011 , Berlin’s international V6 3 litre , serviced regularly, still going strong at 275k, no rattles , but, the thermostat and water pump have been replaced , nothing else ! I will keep Calais till I can no longer drive and give it to my daughter 😢
I have a 2017 Redline and boy is it an absolute weapon, it’s definitely thirsty at times but well worth it given that 1. You have a load of fun, 2. They’ll last 300,000kms + if treated well, 3. Maintenance is cheap, 4. Depreciate at c. $1-2k every 10,000kms as they no longer make them and 5. You get to own an Australian automotive legend. Great deal if you ask me
I own a 2015 VF SSV manual ute and I find it an absolute joy to drive. It has only done 114,000 kms so hopefully I'll get many more years out of it. For me their is nothing else new in the ute market available that suits me. All we have is either way too big with the likes of Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux etc or at the lower end with those cheap and nasty single cab aluminium tray type units.
I traded in my 1980 Cadillac Eldorado for a 2012 Chevrolet Holden Caprice PPV. After a DoD delete, AFM detune, Stage 3 Cam, LS7 heads, CAI, new exhaust, new battery, radiator, front end, and dynotune, it is nearly done. Absolutely the most fun car I've ever driven. My spare car is a 1981 T-Bird with the 302. If I get rid of the T-Bird I will get a 2nd PPV Caprice. The ReDriven reviewers comment about it reaching the speed limit before expected is something with which I can relate. It does drive like a far smaller vehicle. Having the power is nice. It was my midlife crisis vehicle, I bought my Caprice right before turning 60.
I have a SS 6 litre 6 speed ute VF with basic headers / OTR / exhaust & a tune all the very basic mods it sounds absolutely beautiful using a manual gearbox and like you said being able to work the engine makes it very enjoyable to drive around. I enjoy it more and more that i realise all the looks are probably due to the fact i just don’t see them anymore...
I literally just part exchanged my VF redline 😢😢 it had over 108,000 no warranty anymore it was my wife’s daily it needed a few things to the paintwork to make it sellable privately so we decided to get rid through a dealership we got a great deal only had to pay $500 for a brand new top spec Mazda 3 sedan omg I miss it so much but the running costs just to much with today’s fuel etc etc
I'm not a Commodore fan but even I wouldn't complain about having an icon like the VF in my carport. Have to appreciate that you guys did the safety features overview in the Bathurst 1000esque style as it's not only fitting for the Commodore but as a tribute to the late king of the mountain Brockie so massive props there guys. I'm honestly suprised that the VF doesn't live up to the Crumbledore nickname given to its predecessors so that's plus. Brilliant job guys and good to see an icon of Aussie motoring featured as the review car and I look forward to Sunday's video as well 👍.
"why is everyone driving suvs" that comment hit hard big sedans have been the bread and butter in AUS and here in NZ for many years its really sad to see them just given up
I’m glad I have one currently in the states (Chevy SS) over the other 4 door options like hellcats,scat pack, etc etc truly a gem of a car that I’ll never get rid of
The Motorsport had 3 oil coolers to make it hold up to track conditions. But the pinnacle was the w427. Not a quick as the later supercharged cars, but a fantastic drive. Naturally aspirated 7.0 and just loved to rev.
Brilliant cars i love my series 1 ssv yes had a dod delete and big cam full exhaust otr but dont for get the trunnion upgrade and also they have radiator issues with the cracking and injectors are a common problem apart from that get a manual of course and enjoy every second they are truly a great Australian newer muscle car
As a life long Ford Falcon guy - yeah, these things are right up there. You just have to respect what they stand for. Not just from a performance point of view but it’s historical significance too.
At least GM went all out for the grand finale. Ford was a little lacklustre but at least we still got a falcon ute too.
I agree mate. I’d have one of these in a heartbeat and I’m also a former falcon owner.
@@ausernameidkwhat about the FGX & Sprint?
@@paulsz6194 exactly that, the fgx didnt feel like anything special
@@g19mx i see what you mean now, Holden at least had the Motorsport edition. It would have been fitting if they produced a DJR Bathurst edition .
No wonder you guys are killing it with your car reviews, so entertaining and informative, Big fan, I am 76 and have been looking at car reviews since I was 12, well done.
When I lived in the US I had a 2015 SS in perfect blue. I loved absolutely everything about that car and it had many things about it to love. The dealer at the time had only two left and he took $11,000 off the price. What a great day that was and the day I had to sell it to return to Europe was a very sad day. Wish I still had it. If anyone reading this is thinking about getting one, if you can find one with decent miles do it, it’s a blast
FINALLY. A video about the VFs. Long story short, I drove a Camry for YEARS. YEARS! I didn't care about cars or Commodores at all, until I drove one. Should anyone buy one. Yes. Absolutely while you still can, YES. I drove a friend of mines VF SS. A month later I sold that Camry and went and purchased my VF S2 LS3. I'm late as hell to this party. I've owned this car for just over a year now. What an absolute weapon of a car. I love that car more than anything. Worth every penny. Every single person I know has their opinion about it. Once I let them have a drive of it, they absolute love it. You cannot beat a good old-fashioned SS, especially the last batch of VFs. Beautiful car. Practical. Sounds amazing even for stock, and most importantly Drop a gear and disappear. UP THE COMMODRE!
Bro stop letting people drive it haha love mine just the same man its such a nice car to drive
I totally agree there magic a legend that is no more cheers 👍
I saw one in Tokyo recently! Someone has imported this beast but no one knows what it is 🤣
That’s wild!
That would be extremely exotic in there and likely will be highly preserved!
It looked awesome, and sounded even better!@@kornkernel2232
"Why are we driving SUV's, this is heaps better"
Absolutely. People drive SUV's because it's some sort of 'mines bigger than yours' cock off.
The loss of Commodore and Falcon is a tragedy we will never recover from.
Yep. Mazda6's are comparable but not rwd and you need the turbo 4 to be able to load people up and then overtake which puts it behind commodores.
@@Low760i still get confused on mazda’s stubbornness not to make not even the mazadaspeed6 RWD, i know it would take plenty of money to research and develop RWD stuff but damn it’s a shame they’re fwd
@@wizzfizz6800Cause there's no economic case for it. Mazda6 is dying as is. MS6 would have zero buyers.
It kills me that there's enough interest in Ute's for every company under the sun to sink multi millions in R&D, yet your average 70k Ranger/Hilux couldn't even overtake a Hyundai i30 on the road, that's not the point of them, but for that much money you expect to be able to still beat a sub 30k or less hatchback.
SUV are more spacious and have more boot space. These things sit low and second low room is actually isn't that great
If you can’t afford a V8 the Sv6 option especially in Sportswagon trim is still a great car. I have a 2013 VF1 in Regal Peacock Green (a fairly rare colour) now with 185,000 km on the clock. It’s been super reliable great on fuel, long term average is 10 litres per 100 km and it’s a normal suburban car. On a long trip I’ve seen between 6.5 to 7 litres per 100km. Everything interior wise still fresh and wearing very well.
Redriven I hope you give this underdog model some love as despite lacking a v8 they’re a bloody good value car for what they are. Adam if you ever visit Melbourne I’d love you to test drive it. I’m 45 and I vow to keep this car till I’m ready to hand my license in. For the weekends I solve my fetish for V8 power with a low mileage 2008 Wm Grange. Both fine specimens of Australian automotive history along with the Falcon, Mitsubishi 380, etc.
That peacock color is mint. Nothing like it on the road
I've got a 2017 SV6 wagon in Regal. It looks very nice 😊 I've also got a supercharged VE V8 Calais for my V8 fetish
@@anthonymilde592 You’ve got the best of both worlds mate! 🥰😊👍
Wonderful cars..I bought my SSVRedline one month before factory closed in 2017..Still fun to drive and as the guy says in the video the standard 6.2 ltr motor is more than enough power. Growing up with and driving with Fairlane ZC 351 Windsor and Kingswood 308 wagon I always loved V8 power .
Very sad to see them fading away in Australia. Legendary v8’s will be craved in the future for sure.
They were murdered! Lol
As a young man growing up in NZ owning JDM performance cars and having that mindset that V8 commodores were shithouse, coming to Aus and amercing myself in Straya culture, straight off the plane and into a EL Falcon (cheap) which was like a land yacht that spat the dummy within a few months, into a Crewmen alloytec which wasn’t bad, should’ve got the V8 one but still served me well, into a VE HSV which 10yrs later I still own and has now 230k and still goes as strong as it did 10yrs ago, The Commodores (LS) and falcons (Barras) are formidable vehicles which deserve to be celebrated and treasured for a long time
Thanks Adam and team, ive been waiting for this one. We have 2 of these in the family (1 V6, 1 V8) and both have been absolutely outstanding. Every time i put my food down in the V8 i smile. Thank you for such an honest and respectful review.
I used to get the SV6 for company rentals. I remember being so impressed with the build quality and driving balance. It felt sad that after all the iterations, the final model felt like something that could match the Euros.
Yeah it was a shame, they finally made the best Commodore and it was all over.
I had a series 1 Redline for 5 years and it was totally reliable hardly any issues, I was looking at getting rid of it and was looking at the German makes, in the end I sold it and bought a series 2 Redline still love driving it nothing comes close to bang for you buck.
Great clip, you put into words everything I feel when I drive my V8 . I don’t need it, can’t make use of the power, just take it out occasionally but it just gives me so much pleasure having it in the garage.
your VE SS Ute review convinced me to buy a 2008 VE SSV ute, 80,000km on the clock and stock from factory, amazing car ! will get to enjoy it for many years.
Nice honest car and plenty of fun. Good call.
I absolutely love my SSV VF Series 2. Mine is totally stock and immaculate with 40,000kms. Still drives like new and still as powerful as ever. I also have a SV6 VF s2 sportswagon and that's a work horse with over 170,000 and going strong. The Auto in the SV6 is getting a little rough on the occasional swift but both great cars.
Nice review mate
You should give the auto in the SV6 a service as it's probably low on fluid, causing the rough shifts... They're sealed for life units according to Holden though that is B.S, so I'd get it done ASAP before actual problems start happening to the transmission...
@@MartinJones123 you're right, I had it fluids changes at around 135,000kms. maybe a little difference.
@@Studat Maybe you should take it to a transmission specialist if your car continues to shift rough...
@@MartinJones123 happening soon as the car is to good to get rid of.
An Australian made car being featured on ReDriven! Keen to see more Aussie cars featured on this channel :)
More coming!
Great, l have an Australian made Corolla wagon. 😅
@@ramblinonandon Nice 👍
AU Falcon ?
HSV GTO Coupe!
I bought a WN Caprice V Series 2 with the LS3 new in 2016 and its just about the perfect car for long trips - huge boot, comfortable and roomy, heaps of power and 10 litres per 100 kms on the highway and able to withstand the roughest of Australian rural roads! I recently considered buying a new car but couldn't find anything much that readily matched the Caprice with regard to long trips ability.
I love seeing Holdens on the road. Quite rare now, but they look good
Love the v8 supercar mock narration 😂
Love these. Nice big barge with a stinking great V8. Had the Vauxhall Monaco here in the Uk - a rare sight but a special car.
Can’t wait for the mighty Au ford falcon review at 200k subs!
I own a Motorsport Edition. Holden manufactured 1200 Motorsport Edition cars before they closed the factory. It is an Australian classic, no one can deny it.
I still drive an old commodore from early 2000's. Over 250km still going strong LOL.
I like it, feel like people move out of the way when im on the road (even though i dont drive aggressively) LOL
Experience that too with people moving out of the way and I never rides anyones arse on the road. They just see this bright orange Commodore and move over. If I drive the same in my Mazda 6 wagon, they just ignore me, so its definitely the car. :)
Me too!
Jordan is a real one, lmao! 😂
Cracking car, cracking video. This was great.
I own a '14 SS in the US that I've rebadged to being a Holden.
What a phenomenal car! It feels solid and has been reliable and is the perfect balance of everything. It's fun to drive without being dangerous, roomy and comfortable, loads of technology and refinement that still hold up today, and it looks so sexy. It's eye catching without being overdone and I get comments from passerbys regularly.
My biggest complaints are the horrendous fuel economy (was expected with this size engine) and parts supply in the US is challenging.
Otherwise, it's the perfect car. What a high note for Holden to end on
Was that ever in Livermore, CA? I saw one parked back in 2019. Unforgettable!
@@Bens_Dad_Xo Hey there. It wouldn't have been me. I only purchased mine in 2021 and rebadged it in 2022. There's quite a few in the US with the Holden badging
I have a series 1 ss storm. 230,000 kms now. Bought it with 30,000kms on the clock. Mine has the flex fuel and has been running on e10 the entire time. Still running beautiful as a daily for the wife. More economical than a BA falcon six. Almost due for a refresh and a cam. Very accurate review, well done Redriven.
I own a vf2 ss and I have been well looking forward to this review. Thank you.
I have a Series 1 Calais V L77 with over 200,000kms and have done cam, valves springs with DOD delete, air intake and full exhaust system. The thing moves hard! Ive got the Harrop 2300 waiting to be Installed. They are a good car the VF best Aussie car made.
It's about time we've seen an Australia car on the channel. 😊 please I'd love to see more holdens on the channel. Good on yah Jim for going into such detail about the mechanicals.
More coming mate but have done a few Aussie cars already. - AK
should do a vf wagon sv6@@ReDriven
I have a 2017 SSV Redline Spitfire Green Sportswagon I bought second hand in April 2018. Great car , stock as a rock.
As a Ford Guy
I respect the HSV and HDT
Would love to see an XR6 Sprint featured
A automobile built in Australia is being highlighted on ReDriven! Would love to see more Australian vehicles on this channel:)
I have a 2017 series 2 SV6, bloody love it even though I’ve only owned mine for 4 months
I bought a 2017 VF SS new awesome car which I only drive on weekends. The LS3 is such a powerful motor for a stock car. Prices will increase in time. Always been a Holden man.
What color is she in? Mines White (Herron White)
@@ianharrh White Heron
@@ianharrhthat’s spitfire green
I owned a VF HSV GTS since new and only recently sold it. The interior was still in perfect nick and the only issues after 9 years of ownership were related to normal wear and tear such as break pads, tyres etc. I absolutely loved that car.
Hi Redriven, i'd be highly interested to see a review on the Mistsubishi 380, as they are a fairly old car now, and there are no other reviews of these cars online. I'd like to learn a little bit more about them. Thank you.
If reviewed Jim could take a holiday😅.
I'd love to get my hands on a 380 owned by a fussy old bloke.
Good engine, bad electrics, paint and power window faults. Just sold mine.
Almost bought one..but fuel economy stopped me doing it
@@TEKOSTUFFFuel economy isn't too bad for a 3.8 litre V6
Can attest to the statement of holden throwing everything at the VF and VF2 with regards to technical stuff. I have a 2014 My 15 poverty pack VF evoke that has the same tech features as some higher end model cars. I brought it n 2019 with 80k on the clock for $14k, I was blown away by all the technical crap it had it had as I always associated poverty pack commodores to just have the bare essentials.
I bought my VF2 SSV Redline Sportwagon 40 years after my first car which was a 64 EH 179 wagon.
The EH was great but the new iteration of what most families i grew up amounst in the 60's is bloody outstanding.
It handles very well for a big car, can carry a load, is pretty quick off the line and is also very comfortable to drive long distance with limo-like quality.
Sad to see Holden is no longer with us but glad to see they went out on such a high note.
I can't recommend the last Commodore more highly.
Chris
I know someone who owned a VF Series I SS ute (manual) - apparently you'd already be doing 110 by the time you shifted into third, so I guess even the "normal" SS can't really be used properly on our roads.
Would still love a Series II SS, though.
Series 1 VF had much taller gearing in the quest for fuel economy. VFII was a tad more practical for the speed limits, but does burn more fuel in the process. You are right though, that any of these cars can quickly get over the speed limit without a lot of effort from the driver.
I'm so glad I bought a series 2 VF Redline never selling it ❤
Was a Holden Service Manager back in the day and the Aussie Commodores were the only decent cars they made.
Still not perfect but a well kept and/or cherished one is quite a special car.
The worst thing about them is often the kind of people who own/owned them.
Also, forgot to mention to check the car for belt slap. ;)
I’ve already got a VF Clubsport, this review made me want to buy a VF SS as well.
Do it. Have have my first car 1987 vl turbo in red and a vf 2 ss in red and recently purchased a vf gts lsa in red
my cousin has a HSV. It goes pretty well. I'd prefer an XR6T or XR8
As someone who drives the ute verison of the VF, if you can buy one they're great! Surprisingly very practical with the tray (on the some what larger side) but actually quite easy to maneuver in traffic! I've found they're quite easy to modify whether that's performance or cosmetics and there are thousands of aftermarket parts for these. Loving every moment of owning one of these!
I picked up a Series 2 VF SSV Redline edition in September and it was everything I could've hoped for. Since done an exhaust intake tune and put some coilovers in it and it is amazing now. Holden really got this car right.
What a weapon.
3 years ago, traded a 2008 G6ET, for a 2017 LS3 Calais, it was like going from a 20th century car into a 21st century car, but replacing the harmonic balancer after 63k kms.
Heh yup, Lifters in the ls3, the fuel pump - i mean why, why did gm make it that difficult to replace. The gearbox and injectors would the things that havent YET gone on mine. Expensive but worth every cent, fantastic car.
After 4 years of saving picking up my vf ssv redline next week!
Owned a VF series 2 std v6 ute. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. Just imagine how good they'd be today as a new car!
They are amazing cars. Wish I bought an sv6 Ute when I had the chance
You can't beat a classic like this, you can feel the power and gear changes, that sense the road is yours, new hybrids and ev's simply cannot compare.
Up coming drivers that go for the new hybrids and ev's won't truly feel what it really is to drive a real car
I was just thinking when was the VF going to be reviewed. Awesome timing redriven ! I’m a big fan of the vf2 v8’s
These and the VE drive great. Just a shame about the electric steering, apart from that love the VF
I have a vf series 1 ss 180k on the clock, no modifications, and still runs like new. And I'm a Ford guy
No such thing as a ford guy, we’re all car enthusiasts
“No where for your sunglasses” ya had your hand on the sunny compartment 😂
No if your car has a sunroof there is no sunny compartment.
Great review, we really lost some great cars when holden and ford shut doors here. Its amazing when I take out my 2000 VX HSV GTS how many people actually turn heads these days, let alone how roomy it is compared to modern cars! But also when its 1 of 287 built in that generation it is also becoming stressful to take out with how bad people are at driving haha
Definitely worthy. Drove a 375 optioned director, what an awesome and fun car to drive. Great sound and quick but not crazily so like this 547 version. You could actually get up it and have some fun.
I bought the 8th last VF Maloo R8 built #1372 brand new in Sept 2015. I had a bit of a nightmare with my car. It’s got an LS3. Under 100,000 KM the oil pump failed. Holden took the car and had it for a couple of weeks. They “fixed” the engine. Until last year when the car started misfiring and playing up. It had been serviced regularly and always on time or before. I took it to a mechanic that knows these engines backwards. The car was making weird noises. An inspection showed the lifters had failed and that the car had not been fixed properly by Holden when the oil pump failed. In the opinion of my mechanics the car had been “patched up”. Considering it cost me over $90,000 new I was most unimpressed. I contacted Holden who after some debate back and forward refused to speak to my mechanic about the issue. I then found out the while engine was “stuffed”. Two mechanics who work at the workshop where my car was an actually were Holden trained mechanics and worked at the workshop where the car had originally been repaired after the oil pump. Holden refused to speak to them and said “you’ve not had it serviced at Holden so we cannot help you”. They also told me that “I couldn’t hurt their reputation as they don’t sell cars anymore and that they were unable or I assist me”. I advised her there is proof that Holden did a dodgy job repairing my car after the oil pump failure but they weren’t interested and would not chat to my mechanic at all. She said they would only speak to Holden trained mechanics to which I took great pleasure advising her that two of the mechanics working on my car are in fact Holden trained to which was a tad taken aback but still refused to speak to them. That was it. Great customer service right there 😡Anyway I had the cash luckily to get engine completely rebuilt. The only thing original was the block. The timing chain guide was floating around in the sump as your mechanic mentioned can happen. I’ve taken this opportunity to get a nice lumpy cam put in, new exhaust, new everything but was so disappointed by Holden’s attitude and refusal to look at the service history etc. Anyway I have my car back, it’s better than it was new and I’m happy with it but with crappy customer care like that I can see what Holden went out of business. The lady at Holden who had to call me said that she “hated her job” as “all we say is no to people” 😳Great video. I’ve just had the injectors and fuel pump replaced too. It runs well now but Holden’s appalling customer service and support was very disappointing to say the least.
My issue with buying that car is all the telegraph poles that will jump out in front of me trying to crash into me.
😂
Made you swear when you put your foot down, LOL. I own series 2 Redline since new and it has been very reliable car. There was a dodgy batch of injectors which were replaced under warranty by Holden at about 20,000 km. Also they replaced the harmonic balancer 3 times but it still wobbles. Next service I get an aftermarket one fitted and that will sort it out. I don't think I could ever part with this car. Makes me happy every time I drive it and I owned more than 20 cars in my life, including German ones. This one is my favoured.
I drive my vf ss daily and LOVE IT.
That's the only way to enjoy them I do the same
I have a WN CapriceV and I will keep it as long as i can I just had a full engine rebuild
I don't know about Down Under, but in the US, the VF (Chevy SS) has become a prime target for thieves. Thank you push button start. Glad I kept my VE (G8). And would I buy another? You bet! I'm on my 5th so far.
I saw a VE Ute in Southern Ireland recently! Couldn’t believe it!
This brings tears to my Eyes I recently traded my VF 2017 series 2 sv6 ex cop for a VF SSV 2017 6.2 l supercharged W547 with only 12000 kms had it for a week the price to run was to much for me to afford fuel gauge was like a Speedo it just went down Everytime I put on the gas, I ended up buying my ex cop sv6 and now it feels right I’m happy once again knowing I can afford to run this at this time with struggling life we have today.
I’ve thought of selling my GTSR a few times. This video reminds me why I shouldn’t.
I took that chance two weeks ago. After owning a VN Balina, VS acclaim and a VE Calais (all V6s), I bought a VF series 2 Calais V with 6.2ltr with 67000 on the clock. . I always wanted a V8 and finally I have one. Love it.
Great video. Best thing I've done was to sell the Aurion and buy one of the last produced VF2s in manual. Puts a smile on my dial every time I enter. I chuck some Liqui Moly fuel cleaner/conditioner every 10000 to keep the system clean and run it on 98. Definitely noticed the difference when I put it in first time and no issues with injectors.
This is the only car that I would buy instead of a Lexus LC500. I am not a GMH fan, but this car is a legend. I would love to take it over the Mt Cotton Hillclimb. Change of underwear would be necessary after the run.
I own a VFII SSV Redline manual that I bought new (factory order) and I love it. Mine has a Harrop Stage 3 upgrade (otrcai, headers, exhaust, tune) and makes an easy 400 rwhp and only uses around 9 lph on the hwy and 11.5lph around town. I've bought new V8 Commodores since the VR SS in 1994 and they have all served me well.
The series 2 V8 uses the Tremec TR6060 manual gearbox, which is much better than the previous BT56 manual box.
I've had no issues with mine, which has done 70000km and been across Australia twice.
Later model Commodore and Falcon/Territory seem a lot better put together. I'm not into the Ford v Holden thing, I'd own either. Current ride is 2015 petrol Territory but VF looks and drives nice... pity they're gone
Yes you should buy one. Holden left the best until last with the VF2.
We will completely ignore the last commodore then :D
No they never existed... Piles of left over Peugeot turd
@@schrenk-d 100% we will forget the ZB ever existed
@@michaelhart5886
Damn straight! :D
@@schrenk-d. It wasn’t a real Commodore. Holden should have had the respect to retire the nameplate when local production ceased. Ford did it for the Falcon and it wasn’t even an Australian nameplate!
@@jamestorrens645The ZB isn’t Australian, wasn’t built here and the argument stands that Holden Australia should have retired the name plate. Every commodore previous got better, and more powerful with each new iteration. The ZB was a backward step. Look at what a second hand ZB is worth, then look at the VF market. It’s a chalk and cheese comparison. The Vf was and always will be the last Australian built muscle car.
I bought a VF2 Redline Wagon new, you nailed what it’s like to drive. I’d add that the chassis flexed as a wagon, you’d hear the doors rub against the rubbers turning into the local servo.
The engine was great, but I can’t understand why the market values them so highly.
You can often cure this by cleaning/lubricating the seals to keep them supple. Failing that, they aren't terribly expensive with fresh examples
These were sold in the United States as both a Pontiac and a Chevrolet.
They were rather poor sellers when new but are worth quite a bit of $$$$ now!
I remember Doug demuro made a video about why the Chevy SS failed in the US. Basically no marketing and far too much competition for its price point over there.
The VE Commodore was sold as a Pontiac in the US and the VF was sold as a Chevy SS. They are generally raved about over there and hardly anyone even realised that GM were selling the Chevy SS and they were heavily discounting them, now they are nearly as sought after in the US as they are here.
you only got the ss, no hsvs
They weren't meant to sell many. They were sold there to get rid of them
There was some local politics within GM too.@@tractorguy1994
They're such an honest simple down to earth car. I've got a VF GTS and a VE SSV. I've got euro V8s too but having local supports is very handy. I know these cars aren't for everyone but then again I'm not a one eyed fanboy.
Great review. I love my vf2 ssv redline. Getting it cammed next month. Such an absolute pleasure to drive these cars.
Your mechanic showed a bit a ignorance ,the ls3 in the vf2 does not use afm or cylinder deactivation .It is a beautiful motor. Thanks Rob.
Cheers Rob!
Hi rob
Majority of vf Calais and ss have the 6 litre with the afm lifters which are prone to failure at around the 160,000k mark
Bye rob
@@TheWretchedWorldls2 are an amazing motor. Better than almost all v8s
@@lukeneill1568 vf never had an ls2
If I was smart of course I would of brought one . Unfortunately I didn't . Now I just smile when I see such an iconic Australian car on the road .
Hi Adam. The car that you reviewed here is no where near worth $140K. A Motorsport with very low kilometres are priced around the $100k mark and a Motorsport with 60,000 km are priced around $75k. Holden Commodores with modifications even if they have been done by Walkinshaw do not add value to the vehicle as buyers who are paying top price are looking for originality.
Another thing you missed Adam was the sunglasses holder which this car has and most VF Commodores do which is above the mirror. I own a VF2 Redline Ute and my biggest fear is electrical problems. I have already replaced a module and I can see how finding these things in years to come will be difficult. But in saying that I think this will be a problem for most modern cars in years to come considering how much electric systems that most modern cars contain.
Sorry Tom, I didn’t make myself clear enough, I meant that mint low km motorsports are asking $140k, not that this one is worth $140k. - AK
@@ReDriventhere’s one for sale I saw two days ago, never been registered, stored in a climate controlled display. Pre delivery stickers not removed $105k (a brand new Motorsport)
You’re talking about electronic problems. Electrics are just basic wiring. Modules, sensors etc. are electronics.
@@stuey7777it’s 199k
I've got a turbo with same power and it's fine the power is very usable.. it's probably because of the torque coming in to quickly. My XR6 turbo has probably got more torque but it's coming in higher in the rev range which makes it much more usable
We had the previous version ( Lumina SS) in South Africa. A very sort after vehicle now and it's steadily increasing in value.
Right? Have you seen how much the UTEs are going for recently? Especially the manuals? It's crazy.
Yeah we didn't get anything after 2014 at least, but I gotta say, these new ones are quite expensive cos that 140K AUD is like 1.7M here so paying that much for SS
At webuycars they still resealable but even there they increasing 😢
Was that the VZ or VE version you got in South Africa?
@@paulsz6194 The generation before the one adam reviewed 2008 to 2014and we got the earlier 1ns too
Man you guys should be way bigger than carwow
You’re too kind mate. Maybe one day when we can afford to hire an airstrip to run drag races! - AK
I have the V8 series 2 , 2017 which I bought for my retirement, always bought Holdens from the early models . This V8 is by far the best car ever built by Holden . My daily car is a VE series 2 2011 , Berlin’s international V6 3 litre , serviced regularly, still going strong at 275k, no rattles , but, the thermostat and water pump have been replaced , nothing else ! I will keep Calais till I can no longer drive and give it to my daughter 😢
The vf sv6 black edition I had was brilliant.
I have a 2017 Redline and boy is it an absolute weapon, it’s definitely thirsty at times but well worth it given that 1. You have a load of fun, 2. They’ll last 300,000kms + if treated well, 3. Maintenance is cheap, 4. Depreciate at c. $1-2k every 10,000kms as they no longer make them and 5. You get to own an Australian automotive legend.
Great deal if you ask me
As a South Korean, I've seen this car only twice in my whole life in Korea.
I own a 2015 VF SSV manual ute and I find it an absolute joy to drive. It has only done 114,000 kms so hopefully I'll get many more years out of it. For me their is nothing else new in the ute market available that suits me. All we have is either way too big with the likes of Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux etc or at the lower end with those cheap and nasty single cab aluminium tray type units.
I traded in my 1980 Cadillac Eldorado for a 2012 Chevrolet Holden Caprice PPV.
After a DoD delete, AFM detune, Stage 3 Cam, LS7 heads, CAI, new exhaust, new battery, radiator, front end, and dynotune, it is nearly done.
Absolutely the most fun car I've ever driven.
My spare car is a 1981 T-Bird with the 302.
If I get rid of the T-Bird I will get a 2nd PPV Caprice.
The ReDriven reviewers comment about it reaching the speed limit before expected is something with which I can relate.
It does drive like a far smaller vehicle.
Having the power is nice.
It was my midlife crisis vehicle, I bought my Caprice right before turning 60.
I have a SS 6 litre 6 speed ute VF with basic headers / OTR / exhaust & a tune all the very basic mods it sounds absolutely beautiful using a manual gearbox and like you said being able to work the engine makes it very enjoyable to drive around. I enjoy it more and more that i realise all the looks are probably due to the fact i just don’t see them anymore...
I literally just part exchanged my VF redline 😢😢 it had over 108,000 no warranty anymore it was my wife’s daily it needed a few things to the paintwork to make it sellable privately so we decided to get rid through a dealership we got a great deal only had to pay $500 for a brand new top spec Mazda 3 sedan omg I miss it so much but the running costs just to much with today’s fuel etc etc
I'm not a Commodore fan but even I wouldn't complain about having an icon like the VF in my carport.
Have to appreciate that you guys did the safety features overview in the Bathurst 1000esque style as it's not only fitting for the Commodore but as a tribute to the late king of the mountain Brockie so massive props there guys.
I'm honestly suprised that the VF doesn't live up to the Crumbledore nickname given to its predecessors so that's plus.
Brilliant job guys and good to see an icon of Aussie motoring featured as the review car and I look forward to Sunday's video as well 👍.
"why is everyone driving suvs" that comment hit hard big sedans have been the bread and butter in AUS and here in NZ for many years its really sad to see them just given up
Don’t forget the push out cup holders under the middle seat!
I’m glad I have one currently in the states (Chevy SS) over the other 4 door options like hellcats,scat pack, etc etc truly a gem of a car that I’ll never get rid of
15.9k/100L. That's not too bad. My VZ V6 driving around inner city Melbourne gets those kind of figures.
Another brilliant review, no bs, and presented beautifully. Keep it coming.
YES!!! The A Pillars .. they are even worse in the Ute models !!! 🙏🏻
I have a friend with a VE with a rather sketchy 700Kw... That was fun, and a little scary at the same time.
The Motorsport had 3 oil coolers to make it hold up to track conditions. But the pinnacle was the w427. Not a quick as the later supercharged cars, but a fantastic drive. Naturally aspirated 7.0 and just loved to rev.
Brilliant cars i love my series 1 ssv yes had a dod delete and big cam full exhaust otr but dont for get the trunnion upgrade and also they have radiator issues with the cracking and injectors are a common problem apart from that get a manual of course and enjoy every second they are truly a great Australian newer muscle car