Orion: Trial By Fire
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- Winner of the 2015 Lone Star Emmy for Informational/Instructional Video.
NASA’s newest spacecraft, Orion, will be launching into space for the first time in December 2014, on a flight that will take it farther than any spacecraft built to carry humans has gone in more than 40 years and through temperatures twice as hot as molten lava to put its critical systems to the test.
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My son is called Orion. It's strange watching this video :)
Fly safe guys.
Oh wouldn't it be nice if the live simulation looked like this this time around instead of that ugly Java thing they used for the Mars rover? lol. I know, the CGI is super high priority for them, right? ;)
You know that when you say "fly safe" we're used to watch the video fade to black and hear a distant explosion, right? ;P Keep working NASA, Orion is amazing!
On the flip side, I work on Orion so it was strange for me when you mentioned your son's name in one of your videos ;) Maybe you should do a KSP EFT-1 test flight...Might be kind of boring by your standards though.
"Comfortable deceleration" - looking at how its rocking around I'd still be sitting inside screaming my lungs out
It's already not-so-strange enough for me that his name isn't Jebediah... ...
Kelly Smith - the nav/guidance engineer said this in context to the Van Allen radiation belt: "Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle cuts through waves of radiation. Sensors aboard will record radiation levels for scientists to study. We must solve these challenges before we send people through these regions of space." I thought we already had good data on this from the Apollo missions (I know we can collect much better data this time). Weird though.
Freudian slip.
The electronics, circuit boards, microchips, etc, are all totally different, and far more sensitive than the relatively primitive technology used in Apollo.
@billwellford376 were better than that tech not worse crazy you say that we should just use the old tech lol oh yea we lost it
"we lost the gold foil, dood, now we need new tech to solve this radiation problem, bro"
What gold foil was there around the Apollo Command Module that the astronauts were inside as they went to the moon and returned? Here it is attached to the service module;
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Apollo_CSM_lunar_orbit.jpg/1024px-Apollo_CSM_lunar_orbit.jpg
And the radiation problem to be 'solved' was too the modern electronics on board Orion, not to people.
Two months after this video was published, on Dec 5th 2014, Orion was test in space inside the region of the belts with the highest radiation and it aced that test.
Therefore that proved they have indeed solved the radiation problem to the modern electronics, and so astronauts can be sent to the moon and back inside Orion without the electronics failing.
@GAIUS HOTCHKISS yeah it also was weak enough to poke a finger thought according to the astronauts. Thats not going to protect against any space dust wich would tear it to shreads.
Wait no its just magic foil that blacks all that out
@@yazzamx6380 hahahaha pigs in space
@@ShaddySoldier - You said " yeah it also was weak enough to poke a finger thought according to the astronauts."
Except it wasn't.
@@ShaddySoldier And also those pesky micro meteors on the moon.
This will be a true monumental flight that has long been awaited. Full speed ahead, and looking forward to hearing about your travels!
- NOM
@@NOM-X in other words..we never went
Had to watch this without sound (sneaky viewing at work), but it looks like pretty much a re-run of the (also unmanned) Apollo 4 mission and for the same reason: testing that the capsule can withstand re-entry at lunar-return velocities. Just re-entering from LEO wouldn't generate the same levels of heat and shock. The shuttle would have been toast doing this.
Man, I can't wait! I'm actually considering to travel from Norway to USA just to watch the launch! While probes like Rosetta, Maven and Cassini are exiting, there's just something magical about pods designed for human flight. Therefore, Orion and Dragon are the two projects I'm the most exited about.
they say we were born too late to explore the galaxy; and born too early to explore the earth.
But we get to live in that exciting transition period.
@ 3:17 According to this video Orion will test the Van Allen radiation belt first before we can send people through this region of space. Didn't we already send 6 manned crews through this region on the way to the moon in the Apollo missions? If the moon missions were real, then it seems the whole "punching through the Van Allen belt" problem should have been solved over 40 years ago.
Moon landing conspiracy theorists' please take note.
That's why it's a test. Try listening to the video again.
Jake S. No, 3 times is enough. How about you try listening the to video again.
Sadly the design of the apollo system were destroyed after the program ended. Why? I have no fucking idea. So we need to test this to see if it will work
the apollo missions took a path thru the thinnest possible route of the belts.
www.armaghplanet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/image-of-Apollo-11-and-van-allen-belts.gif
NASA is testing new technologies, new craft.
If you think that NASA would release a video that contradicts their lunar landings... you are deluded.
Mine I've personally read some of the parachute reports generated by the Apollo generation, and we have an old guy walking around here as a consultant who worked on Gemini before Apollo. That knowledge is still around. Fair disclosure: I work for the company making the parachutes. Apollo carried 3 astronauts, Orion can carry up to 6.
Wasn't just easier and alot more cheap to just go through the Belt and take a RadAway? If much injured you could just take a Stimpak after the RadAway and problem solved...
Quit wasting time on TH-cam, Preston Garvey urgently needs you at Tenpines Bluff.
Hi vault owner #263753.
is it just me, or did NASA just call their own bluff?
what
They do it on purpose. Read 95% of the comments on here. NASA admits they have never been to space and the sheep will still defend them to their death.
@@mland005 Lol. When did NASA say they have never been to space? Lol
Fascinantno i mnogu predizvikuvacko.Sepak za toa e potrebna hrabrost i nervi.
On the Van Allen belt: "We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space." Obviously. Because Stanley Kubrick didn't have to solve it when he filmed the moon landings on a soundstage.
Genius is an understatement!
Have we gone yet ? No ? Not until 2028 now . lmao. No one is going any place in space . Space is FAKE
A bit old video maybe, but, In December 2014 the orion craft,
had few tests into space, while orbiting earth, and concluded with
great success.
The Orion, is ready for manned missions beyond earths low orbit,
into the moon. Again to take humans presence into the deep space!
The Orion's computers can handle 480 million instructions per second! Wow! I think my laptop can do that!
It's actually 900 million operations, with triple redundancy (The avionics are powered by the PowerPC 750FX)
And yeah, your laptop and even your phone could easily match that.
Nasa, how about you use metric units ?
Too much KSP, I'd have a better feel in m/s myself.
Its even in the movie Interstellar that the moon landings were a "great piece of propaganda" and we did not go to the moon.
Interstellar was a great big smeller.
The whole point of that scene in interstellar is to talk about how the education system is getting dumber that they may even reach stupidity levels that makes them think the Moon landing is fake
@Cognitive Chaos Pretty obvious you haven't done any research yourself. If you followed spaceflight heavily, tracked the latest launches, got the newest pictures, subscribed to exclusive content. You would know that it's common knowledge that right now we can only get into LEO. Because no manned rocket has enough ∆V to send people out of it.
@Cognitive Chaos The only Irony here is you thinking you've well researched this topic but think that a subtle common knowledge is some game-changing evidence of a hoax.
@Cognitive Chaos "Most people, even when presented evidence or proof, they'll deny it over & over resulting from cognitive dissonance!" That sums up your cult pretty well. Even if you drove to Florida and watched a rocket launch you would still call rockets fake.
I'm not going to argue any more because you have to leave your cult yourself. Drop everything and go out and smell the air. Go complete High School Physics, go watch a rocket launch, learn about how they work. Don't mindlessly following like a sheep, people who have no evidence that the Moon landings are fake.
Exellent guide! good luck guys. I wish all the best NASA!
I've been intrigued with NASA and all of the missions since the early 80s when I was in elementary school...... When the Shuttle program retired, I often wondered what would be next. Orions concept seems like we are traveling backward as opposed to forward progression mainly because of the splash down. I wonder if we will ever build a spacecraft that can actually land on land again just as the shuttle did.....
Isn't what a spacecraft does when it is actually in space more interesting?
For example - taking men to the Moon or Mars versus a nice winged approach and landing?
Can you have both? Well, wings are useless in space so that can be a lot of dead weight you have to lug around with you. That limits spacecraft performance, requires a lot of extra propellant etc.
I'm older than you and during the Shuttle era I felt that we "were travelling backward as opposed to forward progression" because it limited us to Low Earth Orbit, whereas Apollo had taken us to the moon. And Orion is going to do just that - finally we are moving forwards again.
Orion is my favorite! :D
Who needs Hollywood? Real life is so much better! Another excellent video from NASA. Can't wait for Orion's debut in space!
We should test the effects of the Van Allen belts on some of these commenters. It might not make them any smarter, or even convince them that space is real, but at least there would be a 3 minute window during re-entry where they couldn't communicate.
Fellow humans. These are the worthy proyects to invest our work and money, for the advancement of science and the continuous enlightenment of our specie.
I really wish there would be someone that would come out and explain how and why 50 years after we have landed on the moon 6 times and came back in one piece over a period of 3 YEARS!, we spend more money and time (15 years compared to 3) on such mission. I guess there has not been any major advancement in space technology over this period as we are still using same propulsion tech as back then.
Why are there so many freaks who thinks we've never been to the moon?
Watching this 4 days before Orion launch , it's Apollo
Putting people safely into space beyond orbiting the Earth is clearly a challenge and as seen here, NASA is keen to evaluate the dangers with an unmanned craft. Having seen close up the flimsy foil-wrapped space hardware of almost fifty years ago, you can bet what I, along with millions of others have long thought about our "one giant leap for mankind". Perhaps NASA's younger generation are about to grass up on the old boys?
"the flimsy foil-wrapped space hardware"
The Apollo astronauts were not inside the LEM when it passed through the Van Allen belts. The CM was neither flimsy, nor foil wrapped.
HTH.
Finally they admit you need ALLOT of shielding to get through the belts. Yeah, we did not go to the moon!!!
Wonder video's! Truly amazing
Why have they called it Orion? It comes from the 'Orion Dynasty'. The real creators of the Universe. They use names that have significance to them, as some subtle hint that nobody knows.
Adolf Hipster agreed
Only thing I hear in this comment sections is "Moon landings are fake they said it" well they are talking about Orion it's a new spacecraft with untested hardware that might fail going through the Van Allen belt because it is new and we can't make the hardware not fail and Apollo's Hardware was tested for over 10 years and Orion has only be on the drawing boards since 2011. Also the Apollo missions went under and around the Van Allen Belt and when Orion goes to the Moon I would Be in my 30's or 40's and I'm planning to become an Astronaut for NASA and fly to the Moon. Also when Apollo 15 went to the moon they left some reflectors on the moon so when you shot a big laser at the place where Apollo 15 was it would shine back. The Mythbusters even said the Moon landings where real look it up. And please stop being stupid and who cares if we went to the moon or not it's your opinion and the are little information that the didn't go to the moon. And they did go to the moon that's it I'm done
I thought we have already traveled through the Van Allen Belt...or were we lied to?
All the crews who went around and on the Moon did it, obviously.
I'm wondering if the fireball created during reentry will be visible from the ground.
Good luck with your tests guys and send us some nice pictures from up there.
Probably. I've seen videos of shuttle atmospheric entries before.
FINALLY.......Verbally admitting by NASA, "We must solve these challenges before sending ppl through the VAN ALLEN BELT b/c radiation is so high". If we've already sent ppl the moon, why is there a need to solve this? Didn't we do this before all the Apollo missions? I'm just saying!
TourOfTorun Well, if I had not done research on the Apollo missions 10-15 years ago, I might believe you, however I done quite a bit of research. This illogic excuse doesn't make sense. Before spreading nonsense do some research or maybe ur just trolling..........Not one Apollo capsule was equipped or designed to handle the high concentration radiation of the Van Allen belt or protect the astronauts.
TourOfTorun It's not possible....the radiation belt range from 1,000 to 60,000 km, there is no way to explore radiation particles in outer space or design a flight path to avoid such radiation particles. It simply didn't exist back then, so this is why they must not send ppl till further research is done.
longhand335 The existence of the belts was confirmed by Explorers 1 and 3 in 1958. At first it was thought that the whole of space was highly radioactive, until the extent of the belts was mapped by other Explorer and Pioneer missions.
TourOfTorun Ok.......you can't be serious with your responses so u must be a troll....Plz explain why no astronauts developed complications to high radiation exposure considering no Apollo capsule offered protection to the explorers?
longhand335 Are you denying the fact, easily proven, that beta radiation is blocked by a few mm of aluminium? The outer belt, which took longest to cross (about 2 hrs) is mainly composed of beta radiation. If you don't know the basic fact that beta is blocked by a few mm of aluminium, then there is no point in continuing this conversation.
They're still having trouble getting through the van Allen belt, I thought that problem was solved back when the first man landed on the moon.
0:40 TIE-Fighter sound!
Concerning the Van Allen belts, he stated in this video "that they must solve challenges before we send people through this region of space." But the moon is father out then the Van Allen belt. Why wasn't it a concern back in the 60's as opposed to now? I know some say that going to the moon was a hoax and will jump at that point in a NY minute, yet it is a valid question.
Because we didn’t go.
Awesome X Infinity!
3:36 you can see the ozone layer.
Didn’t have any radiation shielding back in 69 haha
Actually they did, and different types of radiation are blocked by various amount by different materials.
@@yazzamx6380 but now they need to test it again haha you believe anything they tell you ,space is fake
@@clebruckus9421 - You said "but now they need to test it again haha you believe anything they tell you"
Come on really? Use some common sense please.
Every *craft* designed to carry people is tested thoroughly and completely before it goes into service or onto the market. Fact!
So you think for a new car they won't bother to test the seat belts and airbags on the basis that we know they work in other cars?
You think for a new passenger plane they won't push the wings to its limits on the basis that we know wings work on other planes?
If you can understand why every new car, plane, ship, motorbike, etc is fully tested before going into the market/service, then why can't you understand that the same would apply to spacecraft, whether you believe they exist or not!
You added "space is fake".
A flat Earth believer claim, so are you a flat Earth believer? :-)
@@clebruckus9421 they aren t only testing the new shielding, they are also testing all the new electronic equipments that didn t exist back then in 1969. We don t know how they will hold against deep space radiations. This has to be tested in real conditions.
@@uncitoyenfrancais didn’t have any shielding back in 69 so they say ,space is fake,if the sky was a vacuum then the air we breath would fill it as according to gas law and the law of increased entropy! Fairy tales is all you have
I'm confused, did I imagine 'the shuttle', or is this radically advanced technology?
I must admit that I am somewhat taken back by the reentry strategy and antiquated design. A half a century later and we remain with this concept? I realize the interests in "going with what you know" and "tried and true"... but come on. Rocket boosters? Jettison? ... Parachutes? What about the evolution of Space Shuttle technology? Why must we continue with the Apollo program in 2015?
Because the space shuttle was dangerous and complicated
You have to "solve" the challenge of the van allen belts? Uh ... didn't we do that when we went to the moon during Apollo? Really? I mean, if you're not going to apply the lessons learned from the only program that actually WENT SOMEWHERE, what's the point?
Stop dumbing down space exploration!
Learning to hearing people is important.....
1rst : Men in program Apollo has a challenge against USSR... (so quicky resolved, may be too fast)
2snd : Is people accept to see men/women dying because NASA don't have make enough research? (chalenger)
3??? (excuse i'm french) : Is people accept spend 1% of GDP"of USA for one year in one launch? (apollo do it) (nasa budget)
and .... and
Solve mostly means "passing through" without risk, yes, we have found A WAY to get through it but not a SOLUTION, the Apollo missions found a way to pass through it just by flying through it with high risks of it killing the astronauts
I'll repeat here:
NASA HAS A PROBLEM WHICH WAS NEVER SOLVED.
Why wasn't it solved?
Because in 1969 they had a choice, either keep astronauts safe from radiation or send them to the Moon, they couldn't do both. This was said by National Academy of Sciences to NASA.
Until 1989 acceptable lifetime dose of radiation for astronauts was 400% higher than it is now so astronauts could possibly go to the Moon again, but Mars is a No-Go until it's proven that Orion spacecraft's shields are up to the challenge..
That's why engineer says "we must solve these challenges before we send people".
Its cuz NASA (claims to have) lost the technology, which is why we never went back. So apparently they have to start all over (with the lies too)
What?
Why worry about radiation belt apollo missions went threw it didnt they?
Huh
That is why we have fantastic 4.
Joedy Holt
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When are we going to use 1 of the other 62 forms of propulsion that are better than those being used today?
Shouldn't they already have the electronics figured out for the Van Allen Belts High Radiation since they went through it 40 years ago when they went to the moon and back? Supposedly.
Didn't we do all this in 1969...? What has changed this time to require testing?
Why do you say in your information film that you have to figure out how to take humans trough the van Allen belt before you can send humans to space? Why don't you just use the same technology you sent humans to the moon with? Why don't you go back to the moon? Could it be because you are lying and you have never been above low earth orbit???
Yes, the moon landing was a fake and Obama is a lizard.
Why don't we still all drive the Model T? Didn't humans already cross the Atlantic in propeller-driven planes? So why test these newfangled "jets" instead of using the same technology you used before?!
I agree! Scientists should also just design a type of computer that qualifies as "Good enough". Then we won't have to waste money upgrading, ever again.
Jumping back 50 or 60 years . I know we can do better.
The technology in 50 years ago still good and cheap to do. If you want new technology, tell the US congress to give NASA some money.
Apollo 2.0 ... without an LM/MarsM or long duration habitat. Did I miss something here? We'll have a Saturn5+ and Apollo 2.0 with no place to go, just fly around the moon like we did on Apollo 8 in 1968. We have yet to locate a reachable asteroid with the currently planned mission profiles. We're going to get all dressed up and ready to go ... where? When?
Where is the brief on these flight test for people more knowledgeable about aerospace engineering?
I love this Video. it helps me learn.
a NEW chapter in human space exploration O_O
Didn't we already solve the Van Allen issue when we made several trips to the moon?
So did we ever go to the moon? The moon is further than the Van Allen Belts and that was over 50 years ago. I am pretty sure the technology back then wasn't as updated as it as now.
No, that was the same orbit as Apollo 4 which was the planned testing of the Apollo capsule through the same region of space and gives them the same re-entry speed. Both tests needed for any space craft you plan to send beyond LEO. The moon landings were not faked, the people who believe that are either simple or exhibiting the Dunning-Kruger effect.
What are the planning to launch it with, the delta platform is not man certified and the launch platform was scrapped and rightly so?
now if u are wondering how are they landing on mars they can use the capsule that was used in the apollo missions
+Leng Mei No, the lander for Mars is totally different. The Orion has one purpose, to survive re-entry back at earth, nothing more than short journeys. But you add an engine and fuel and a lander and a habitat module to the capsule and you have a spacecraft capable of the moon or Mars.
For those of you who don't know rocket science, actually do some research before jamming your face into conspiracy theories about the apollo missions.
In case you didn't know, the Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts, which was one of several radiation hazards known by mission planners. The astronauts had low exposure in the Van Allen belts due to the short period of time spent flying through them. The command module's inner structure was an aluminum "sandwich" consisting of a welded aluminium inner skin, a thermally bonded honeycomb core, and a thin aluminium "face sheet". The steel honeycomb core and outer face sheets were thermally bonded to the inner skin.
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Great Job Buddy !
Hello everyone, I really had very glad I got a ticket and I will participate in this significant programe for the world, it is a big vozmozhnast leave a mark in science, though minor :)
Nasa's space crafts losing Communication this must be a joke
we are in the space age
short term or not it is an alien atmosphere out there. and as they go beyond that I'm sure other types of space travel will reveal other perils. in short they will find that space travel for earthlings just isn't possible for a long time to come.
NASA has never been to space.
Of course not. The laws will not allow it. If they were in a position to send somebody to space they would not be allowed to do that.
Proof?
If you try to threaten yourself then there are laws against that.
That....is the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard
Understood...
Quel émerveillement ces images et explications de l'Espace. Bravo !
C'est toute fabriquer. C'est faux. Réveille-toi
To Mars and the asteroids, if we're willing. I am.
What upper stage engine will be used for this flight? I thought there are still discussions between the J2X and the RL-10 cluster.
place pods in the ocean that just floats no harm to anyone or sea creatures that pick up wifi waves.
They already figure this out back in the 60's... right? Why not use a well known, well tested technology to do this??
Actually the newer electronics of today while vastly superior are far prone to radiation interference. The van allen belts are regions of charged particles which plays hell on micro electronics.
More than human cells?
coisasnatv No, the best thing to do with cells is put as much metal between you and them as possible and get through as thin a area as you can find as quickly as you can. The effects on cells can take years to manifest, the effect on micro electronics is much quicker and much more catastrophic for the mission being flown. The Van Allen belts are not the real danger, solar storms will be the crew killers.
Metal shield?
How about x-rays?
coisasnatv Which xrays?
Who’s in orbit in 2019?
Always 3 people are in ISS. And this goes on for decades. How pathetic right? We are 50 years after first flights and only 3 people can be in space. How pathetic. Imagine this.
Wright brothers created an air plane in 1903 and 50 years later 1000s and 1000s of people were flying.
We have flown in space for the first time in 1960s and now 50 years later only 3 people can go to space. What a staggering comparison.
@GAIUS HOTCHKISS Ok whatever. In 1960s humans were flying to the moon. At that time people were saying wow in 30 years we will land on Mars. In 50 years we will have base on the moon and human presence in space will be significant and more less wealthy people will be allowed to fly in space but in reality what happened?
1970s came and went
1980s came and went
1990s came and went
2000s came and went
2010s came and went
we have 2020 now and still only 3 people can be in space just like 50 years ago. So in your opinion humans are so stupid that they cannot invent and create better things to make base on the moon or base on Mars.
We have super computers in our pockets and transparent aluminum but we can only send 3 people in space just like 50 years ago.
To me ITS PATHETIC!!!!! For you its ok? You are weird sir with your "expensive compounds" and "super glass".
Let me ask you. Do you know why humans can't fly to the moon or Mars and beyond. Do you have any idea? Why? Because I know why but do you?
@GAIUS HOTCHKISS Karens? Is that a name? You mean Karen?
Yes, US government is spending money. Secretly. On another, covert space program. This space program is run by CIA, Lockheed Martin, NRO perhaps also Pentagon boys have fingers in it too.
The public space program - NASA is only a facade. They real space exploration is conducted by CIA and others.
When Lockheed Martin had discovered anti gravity propulsion few decades ago they diverted funds there. Its quite simple, why waste money on chemical rockets which are slow and need months or even years to reach places in solar system.
For example. Chemical rocket needs at least 5 months to reach planet Mars. 5 months!!!
With this new system that they have, they can fly to Mars in hours, they can fly to the moon in 20 or 30 minutes. To Jupiter and Saturn in a day.
Most military spendings goes there. For example Lockheed has this JSF program with this F 35 jet which has tons of problems. Its a farce. 10 maybe 15% money from budget goes in that program the rest 90% goes into "solar warden" or other secret programs.
Btw NAVY is in it too. Few years ago when senator McCain was alive he asked one admiral during hearing why new aircraft carrier is 2 billion over budget. That admiral replied to him : "I don't know sir". Jesus Chirst! Can you believe in this!
The admiral which is chief of the project has no clue why this project is 2 billion over budget!
So. This is why. Money is flowing into secret space program. Missing 2 trillions here, missing 6 trillions there. I can understand that. Bases on Mars and moon must be maintained, the logistics, supplies etc. this stuff is not cheap. I mean it is off world location for Christ sakes. .
Please help NASA and NDASA all of you to be the treasure of the world.🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🙏ขอกราบขอบพระคุณครับ
Rockomax Jumbo fuel tanks, Rockomax Skipper engines.
What can I do (as low income citizen) to help NASA? Something that would be practical.
Let's not forget that we saw the first landing of 1969 on TV. So it must have been real. Right?
"we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space"... what? Did NASA just forget it sent people to the Moon already?
Not in this ship they haven't.
If you were designing a new boat, you wouldn't try to cross an ocean before taking it for a short ride along the coast. Even if there are boats that already cross entire oceans.
People haven't crossed the Van Allen belts in 30+ years, let alone in a new ship. This isn't Apollo, remember?
Besides, they won't be able to avoid the worst parts of the belts when going to Mars, like the guys with Apollo were able to do because of the moon's inclination.
ready to go
Do you see thousands of satellites orbiting earth like they say? So which one is true - this video or thousands of satellites?
Some satellites are visible during either dawn or dusk. Starlink satellites are particularly noticeable, since they travel in a line.
Do you know how large the earth is?
Very excited about tomorrow -- hope the weather holds out!
So He's a Space Engineer?!
Bu, bu, but.....wasn't the Van Allen belt conundrum resolved as far back as 1969?
I am old enough to remember the last apollo mission in 1972. It looks like an apollo reboot, which in some ways might not be a bad idea mated with 21st c. Technology. I thought we already dealt with the van allen belt? If we would have contined to build on apollo, we would have moon and martian colonies, daily trips to orbit and civilians would be spacefarers. Too bad , we needed more welfare bums, wars, and had to support so many nar do wells.
So what is that material shielding made out of that can handle 4000 degrees temperature it better be some type of crystal lead crystal because no metal can handle that
Tungsten's melting point is 6177°F
"No data can penetrate the plasma...", just like me in the mornings. But coffee-yes, coffee-dissipates the plasma just enough to allow short bursts of data to flow through. Thanks, coffee.
Did the CLOWN forget about the MOON LANDINGS AND GOING THROUGH THE VAN ALLAN BELTS ??HIS HEAD IS BURSTING WITH ALL THE LIES 🤯🤯🤯🤡🤡🤡🤡
Didn't we already solve the Van Allen issue when we made several trips to the moon?
freeman Geiger good one :P
freeman Geiger different materials and different electronics need brand new tests. It's the same for cars too....why should they make crash tests for every new model?!?
aspera3 he said....SOLVE the Van Allen issue for manned flight. Not certifying the the machinery.
freeman Geiger engineer said " we have to test all of its systems.....BEFORE we can send astronauts into space on Orion". He just talks about the machinery all the time.
freeman Geiger "it passes through Van Allen Belts, an area of dangerous radiation"......" Radiation like this can harm the GUIDANCE SYSTEMS, onboard COMPUTERS, or other ELECTRONICS on Orion"....that's the challenge they must solve BEFORE sending people through this region of Space.
I've never seen a man look so serious while drawing purple squiggly lines.
Also, hurray for space. Don't forget snacks.
kerbal style
Lol
Hooray for fake space 😂
"Its computers are capable of processing 480 MILLION instructions per second!"
So, not quite as powerful as a Pentium Pro from 1996...
That's only because they're triple redundant - each board is probably only 80Mhz and 2 cores.
And each board costs >$0.5M
Daniel Chapman too heavy
Is that a TIE ion engine I'm hearing at 0:42 ? ಠ_ಠ
Yeah, nice ear.
They made this video in 2013 and in 14.05.2021 they never been even in low orbit. Have a good night!😂😂😂
The same in 2024 :)
Did they FORGET that we already went to the MOON? WOW!
+makeit happen - maybe i'm late on your joke - but did you mention previously that it was "pretend" go to the MOON ? wow, ruSTOOPID ? the fake moon landings were to deflect and distract attention from the assassinations of the Kennedys & MLK and trying to destroy the music Rock scene that was about to make D.C. capitulate for their nefarious PentaGram War/Death Machine Cult
+Jimi Vincent citation ?
The Apollo spacecraft bypassed the inner van allen belt and went through the thinner region of the outer belt so the amount of radiation the astronaut receive is not high. In this test, orion go straight through the inner belt and no human have go through the inner belt yet.
so its 17k miles/hour and 4k fahrenheit yes? Can we have that in some real standardized units everyone is able to understand?
4k F is roughly 2200 C degrees. 17000 miles per hour mean roughly 27.360 km/h. still, at 3:05 he mention passing Van Allen belts..they need to TEST passing ??? NASA, heloo ! didn't you already TESTED that on APOLLO missions, 50 years ago ??
The have to test it for ALL spacecraft
@@tavidod2791 Orion is completely different to Apollo you moron
This is normal to me to ally but what do you know it says American in the video
*this is america*
What a NASA scientist would naturally say upon repeating something they'd accomplished many moons prior: "Sensors aboard will record radiation for scientist to study. We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space." - Naturally.
Why have you taken this quote out of context, shearing it of its true meaning?
This about covers it:
"Before we can send astronauts into space on Orion, we have to test all of its systems, and there’s only one way to know if we got it right; fly it in space. For Orion’s first flight, no astronauts will be aboard. The spacecraft is loaded with sensors to record and measure all aspects of the flight in every detail…..”
“….As we get further away from Earth, we’ll pass through the Van Allen Belts, an area of dangerous radiation. Radiation like this can harm the guidance systems, onboard computers or other electronics on Orion. Naturally, we have to pass through this danger zone twice, once up, once back. But Orion has protection. Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle cuts through the waves of radiation. Sensors onboard will record radiation levels for scientists to study. We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space".
So the context is the design of an ALL NEW manned spacecraft. As with all other manned spacecraft the design must be proven in certain aspects before humans fly aboard it. So that is what they did.
There is no mention in the above quote of a concern of radiation posing a direct threat to a human crew - but only to "the guidance systems, onboard computers or other electronics on Orion". All of these systems are new compared to those of the more than 50 year old, proven Apollo design. Not so the human crew - their "design" has not changed since the days of Apollo. He only mentions 'people' when talking about the possibility of the spacecraft being crippled by damage to its systems (which naturally would then place the crew in danger).
@@eventcone as a general rule, if I’m close to a radiation source that damages electronics I’m gonna be concerned for my body as well, basically if it’s dangerous for a computer I’m just gonna assume it’s dangerous for me too, if we’re talking about radiation
@@Loo8814 Maybe you would. Maybe you would be right to do so (I'm not a radiation expert). But that's not really the point.
Certain people are making a song and dance about this video because it expresses the need to flight test an all new spacecraft (Orion) with all new systems. They interpret it as meaning that the engineers don't know how to design a deep space craft for humans that (1) will protect them from radiation and (2) will itself stand up to the radiation.
But it doesn't mean that at all - it just means that, as an all new craft comprising multiple different design solutions, it needs to be flight tested before humans are flown on it. Much like any other spacecraft or indeed aircraft.
As for the engineers 'not knowing' - Orion aced the test.
The next flight Orion makes will have humans aboard, having made 2 previous spaceflights. Just as was done with Apollo.
@@eventcone that’s an interesting point, I guess we’ll see if they ever succeed, still looks suspicious to me but I’d love to be proven wrong in the near future since space exploration is something that fascinates me a lot
Finally, NASA got some professional video story tellers. Americans can be proud of our space program once again. Hey NASA, lets leave the weapons systems out of these projects from now on.
I actually feel a little insulted with this much dumbing down, not to mention all the silly music.
holy crap
NASA OWNED
Is it me ? or does this video kinda make it look and sound like the moon missions of the past didn't really happen ?
This video comes across as though we have never gone anywhere beyond the international space station.
Something about the presentation of this video isn't right.
+HALF MT Not only that but the thorough description of how the orion will reenter earths atmosphere. The series of parachutes and the endeavor to slow down the capsule.
They present it like its a totally new approach meanwhile you have to remind yourself that this has already been achieved almost 50 YEARS AGO !
+Jake Weston The moon missions used a course with an inclination of 30° to avoid the Van Allen belt. The problem is that to go to another planet (like mars), you cannot start with an inclination. That's why they want to test their shielding.
+TakeoFR According to spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov they DID go through the belts but claims it was minimal exposure.
""4. Some people believe that the Apollo moon landings were a hoax because astronauts would have
been instantly killed in the radiation belts. According to the US Occupation Safety and Health Agency
(OSHA) a lethal radiation dosage is 300 Rads in one hour. What is your answer to the 'moon landing
hoax' believers?
Note: According to radiation dosimeters carried by Apollo astronauts, their total dosage for the entire trip to the moon and return
was not more than 2 Rads over 6 days.
The total dosage for the trip is only 11.4 Rads in 52.8 minutes. Because 52.8 minutes is equal to 0.88
hours, his is equal to a dosage of 11.4 Rads / 0.88 hours = 13 Rads in one hour, which is well below
the 300 Rads in one hour that is considered to be lethal.
Also, this radiation exposure would be for an astronaut outside the spacecraft during the transit through ""
spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/earth/3Page7.pdf
Jake Weston Yes, they went on an inclination of 30° which means they only passed on the edge of the Van Allen belt, where it is much thinner. This reduced the exposure to the amounts you mentioned.
This solution isn't usable to go to mars - this time they have to pass through the middle, which requires proper shielding.
+TakeoFR So which is it ? "30° to avoid the Van Allen belt" ? or "30° which means they only passed on the edge of the Van Allen belt" ?
Seems like 30° will either do one course or the other. I don't know anything about the van allen belts but at least I'm supplying a reference. Get your story strait.
How did we pass through when NASA went to the moon? 3:35 oh, right, we didn't pass through LOL
We figured out how to get through the van Allen belts in 1962. The first satellites launched by the US measured the radiation levels in space. A human gets a lethal dose of radiation after spending one week in the center of the belts. But the level is low enough that you can traverse the belts without risk. The Apollo missions went through the belts in 3 hours, and got a radiation dose equivalent to a few X-rays.
He said, "we must solve these challenges before we send people into this region of space" . But you say we solved these challenges?
@@themagicalducklings The challenges he was referring to was the design of Orion's electronics. Those are new and very different to what was used on Apollo. We've sent hundreds of satellites through the van Allen belts, we even have satellites living in the belts continuously, so we had a lot of data on how electronics behave in that region of space. But this was the first time since Apollo that a manned spacecraft went through the belts.
They have never been through Kepler. You are thinking of the movie called THE MOON LANDING! Hope that helps
So.... To put this in perspective....
The speaker in the video says that temperatures will reach 4000 Fahrenheit or (2204 Celsius). This is hotter than the surface temperature of Venus (464 Celsius). It also happens to be 2/5 the surface temperature of the sun (5,500 Celsius)! Good grief! To get an idea of melting points, Iron melts at 1538 Celsius.
The speaker also says that Orion will reach 3600 miles above Earth (5793 km). This is not nearly as far out as the moon which is 252,000 km out at the closest. Compared to the Apollo missions, this isn't very far out into space. Hopefully NASA will get a lot of data back about Orion's radiation shielding so we can travel back to the moon and beyond.
@kelly stone Reflective field for what? The sun's radiation? Wikipedia says that it deflects energy particles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt
Wait, how can Orion bring us to Mars? Don't we need rotating centrifugal gravity ships to stop bone and muscle loss?
LUNAR GATEWAY SPACE STATION EXISTS YA KNOW
Oh and im pretty sure it also has a mars module to go to mars too
The radiation problem was solved for Apollo.
+Isukaman HELLO MCFLY ANYBODY HOME ? THEY ADMIT IT'S A PROBLEM IN 2014 SO HOW COULD THEY HAVE DONE IT NO PROBLEM IN THE 60s and 70S ?
NASA IS A BIG JOKE - BTW JUST CHECK THERE ISIS FAKE CGI FOOTAGE ON THE NASA CHANNEL - DO SOME RESEARCH ON TH-cam !
No, it hasn't solve yet. The apollo spacecraft bypass the radiation belt, orion will go through it.
Plus orion computer system is much more sensitive to radiation than the apollo spacecraft.
+Isukaman but wasn't solved for orion...
+vaultsuit Same solution as in the ISS. Just keep the windows closed.
Must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space? Just use the same technology you used over 50 years ago. LOL!
Or maybe they....lied to us. *gasp*
Why would we want to use the primitive electronics from 50 years ago, when modern computers are so much more capable?
The miniaturization does come with one drawback: modern electronics are more susceptible to radiation than old ones. We know how to deal with this: every year, we build hundreds of satellites using electronics that are designed to work reliably in space. But when it comes to manned spacecraft, the reliability requirements are more stringent, and must be demonstrated in tests before we put people in that spacecraft. This is no different than the thousands of hours of flight testing that every new airliner must go through before being allowed to carry passengers.