In Thelema is their no room to worship God in the form of the mother via the yoni being the focus point instead of the phallus? Would this work as NO instead of ON? Prehaps post Crowley Thelema should experiment with this because in all reality Crowley was only focused on his body not the body of the women who would come after them (or even working with him in most cases if not all)
Ngo 93, We’re appreciative for your great question! The first question you ask is so important and nuanced that to respond adequately we need a web article and / or a video. Yes, there is a place for yoni worship in Crowley’s solar phallic magick, which not every Thelemite will embrace. However, its place is different from phallus worship. In Crowley’s magick, the Word of God-i.e., Force-springs from the Supernal Phallus in Chokmah. Yet, in this Thelemic Aeon, Spirit and Matter are to cooperate. (In the last Aeon, Spirit and Matter opposed one another.) Of course, the Supernal Mother or Yoni in Binah supplies the Form without which it would be impossible to unite Earth with Heaven. As well, Crowley personifies our Universe as the goddess Nuit, whose ultimate nature is Absolute Nothingness. In Crowley’s system, a male who worships is to focus his Mind on that Nothingness-Nuit-above the Tree of Life in the Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur. Within this system, he can worship the Supernal Yoni through his Woman’s Kteis so long as he never confuses the planes. Crowley’s system affirms the Man’s potential to wield the Universal Phallus, but that requires that he never worship the lower yoni in any way that would divide it from the Higher. See Liber XV, the Gnostic Mass. It still remains true that the Yoni (i.e., Form) serves only as a temporary shrine for the Word, because any given form is ephemeral. The female vehicle is Earth-bound and subject to ceaseless change. By contrast, the Word is One and eternal through generation after generation of men. Only the male can bring the Word down from Heaven, yet a Woman who knows what she is doing can amplify the power of that Word immensely. Ultimately, it is a mistake to think in terms of either pole. The whole point is that Baphomet (the two-in-one) is androgynous. To instantiate this principle positively and unify Heaven and Earth, Man and Woman must conjoin utterly. Every true God, male or female, is but a mask of the One True God, of Whom our minds cannot conceive whatsoever. The One True God neither has nor does not have any given quality or characteristic, including gender. “Would this work as NO instead of ON?” Not for a man, no. “Prehaps post Crowley Thelema should experiment … Crowley was only focused on his body not the body of the women who would come after them.” We agree: Thelemites (especially women) need to better develop the other side of the equation. However, the only way that can happen in a spiritually useful way is if we admit the very different way in which a female body processes energy from a male body. Since, in our culture, we’re trained from birth to deny the true nature of a female vehicle versus a male one, it’s going to be a tough road. We hope this helps for now. More to come. Thank you again. Christopher and Erica Johnson
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Removing ones mask for their partner is not an easy task... it takes a lot of trust and confidence as well. Wonderful talk, thank you
I agree. For me it has been the work of decades.
Very reasonant points; I'm curious to see how this series develops! 93s
Thank you!
The two phalluses are the double wanded one, 11, the devil or duality as the subjective and objective split below the Abyss.
In Thelema is their no room to worship God in the form of the mother via the yoni being the focus point instead of the phallus? Would this work as NO instead of ON? Prehaps post Crowley Thelema should experiment with this because in all reality Crowley was only focused on his body not the body of the women who would come after them (or even working with him in most cases if not all)
Ngo 93,
We’re appreciative for your great question! The first question you ask is so important and nuanced that to respond adequately we need a web article and / or a video.
Yes, there is a place for yoni worship in Crowley’s solar phallic magick, which not every Thelemite will embrace. However, its place is different from phallus worship.
In Crowley’s magick, the Word of God-i.e., Force-springs from the Supernal Phallus in Chokmah. Yet, in this Thelemic Aeon, Spirit and Matter are to cooperate. (In the last Aeon, Spirit and Matter opposed one another.) Of course, the Supernal Mother or Yoni in Binah supplies the Form without which it would be impossible to unite Earth with Heaven. As well, Crowley personifies our Universe as the goddess Nuit, whose ultimate nature is Absolute Nothingness. In Crowley’s system, a male who worships is to focus his Mind on that Nothingness-Nuit-above the Tree of Life in the Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur. Within this system, he can worship the Supernal Yoni through his Woman’s Kteis so long as he never confuses the planes.
Crowley’s system affirms the Man’s potential to wield the Universal Phallus, but that requires that he never worship the lower yoni in any way that would divide it from the Higher. See Liber XV, the Gnostic Mass.
It still remains true that the Yoni (i.e., Form) serves only as a temporary shrine for the Word, because any given form is ephemeral. The female vehicle is Earth-bound and subject to ceaseless change. By contrast, the Word is One and eternal through generation after generation of men.
Only the male can bring the Word down from Heaven, yet a Woman who knows what she is doing can amplify the power of that Word immensely.
Ultimately, it is a mistake to think in terms of either pole. The whole point is that Baphomet (the two-in-one) is androgynous. To instantiate this principle positively and unify Heaven and Earth, Man and Woman must conjoin utterly.
Every true God, male or female, is but a mask of the One True God, of Whom our minds cannot conceive whatsoever. The One True God neither has nor does not have any given quality or characteristic, including gender.
“Would this work as NO instead of ON?”
Not for a man, no.
“Prehaps post Crowley Thelema should experiment … Crowley was only focused on his body not the body of the women who would come after them.”
We agree: Thelemites (especially women) need to better develop the other side of the equation. However, the only way that can happen in a spiritually useful way is if we admit the very different way in which a female body processes energy from a male body. Since, in our culture, we’re trained from birth to deny the true nature of a female vehicle versus a male one, it’s going to be a tough road.
We hope this helps for now. More to come. Thank you again.
Christopher and Erica Johnson