LYLE MAYS - CLOSE TO HOME: ANALYSIS

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  • @ThomasSenaTV
    @ThomasSenaTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Had to watch this again. Still reeling in sadness on Lyle’s passing. This is the song that first brought me into Lyle apart from Pat. Thanks again for your study, appreciation and explanation of his work. Please don’t stop. You are appreciated. Forever Lyle.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Thank you Thomas. Forever Lyle.

    • @kybernes
      @kybernes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh yes, I couldn’t agree more...forever Lyle!

    • @zezoribeirooficial
      @zezoribeirooficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do q Lyle morreu e pq Pat não fez um vídeo de agradecimento? 70% da música do Pat é LYLE!!!

  • @jjsc4396
    @jjsc4396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I'm actually shedding tears now. This tune speaks to how I feel at this moment trying to take on Lyle's passing.
    No composer's music has given my soul more peace, joy and contemplation.
    He left behind beauty for us all.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel the same way...

    • @brucehanson6427
      @brucehanson6427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's 4 a.m. and I'm crying too. This loss is overwhelming but I'm so glad I've come across Dr
      Guy. His analysis of the emotions up close to home coupled with the mathematics that Lyle so loved is enlightening, as I am a rank amateur with a good ear but no Theory. Thank you Doctor Guy and rest in peace Lyle, you Gentle genius

    • @jjsc4396
      @jjsc4396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr. Guy Shkolnik Composer - this is how I found out, as a brief bumper between NPR segments. I was so happy to hear Sept 15th used as bumper music, then the sad news😞
      But I’m glad it came via this fine reporter’s empathetic tone, was brief, and encapsulated at the end how so many of us feel: www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/02/12/jazz-keyboardist-lyle-mays

  • @stefanocancelli8654
    @stefanocancelli8654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    RIP Lyle Mays. A giant and legend has found his way home, yesterday. I’m feeling very sad this evening but so thankful for the gift he left me.

  • @stevescott200
    @stevescott200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The most beautiful piece of music I've ever heard in my life

  • @AllanKoayTC
    @AllanKoayTC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    i see a lot of videos on YT about music, and the technical knowledge they impart is great, BUT what places you way above those other "music analysts" is that you understand music not just from a technical standpoint but also emotionally and subliminally. and that's why I enjoy your videos more than others.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thanks Allan. I have this passion for sharing music with people who are not always experts in music theory. I just love it when people get it :)

    • @stuartdryer1352
      @stuartdryer1352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this too. It helps me understand better the essence.

    • @aerialfonzi2250
      @aerialfonzi2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn’t agree more .

    • @farley13
      @farley13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% - from going beyond strict 'theory' to playing songs with related ideas. All solid Gold!

  • @jfs70ss
    @jfs70ss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Chick Corea and Lyle Mays are two of my ALL TIME Favorites. So Creative yet so different. Two Greats, even though they are not with us anymore, their music remains with us forever. RIP Lyle and Chick.

  • @ViniciusNipote
    @ViniciusNipote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Guy, now he is close to home... for sure. What a big loss.. but his music will always be touching our heart and soul!

  • @mikeo2420
    @mikeo2420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow! You knocked it out of the park on this one, HOLY COW!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mike You've been here right from the start. Thanks man :)
      A question: do you think there was more of a non-theoretical vibe to this video or is it a balance between theory and non-theory stuff? (or more music in general - this is Close To Home after all...)

    • @mikeo2420
      @mikeo2420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you had the mix down perfect!
      I know little about music theory, it sort of seems like trigonometry to me but I know good music when I hear it. I think you provide a good balance for all levels of knowledge. But what I particularly like is when you tell a story or share your personal connections and insights into a piece of music. I think it really resonates with Metheny-Mays fans because you translate it in a way that maybe they could never articulate for themselves.
      I Learn something new every video!
      Thank you!

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I really like when you explain what is happening with both music theory and in the story the music is telling. You tie them together perfectly, and they are both necessary to tell us what is going on. I like how you tell us what is going on musically, but how that is telling a certain story. My theoretical knowledge is basic, but I understand what you're saying and I like to learn more about it. I just like learning about how things work, and you've unraveled many mysteries for me.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matt-spaiser This is so great to hear! I tend to see music this way: chords "hesitating" - this kind of stuff. To see the story in it. The video I'm making this week will be on first inversion chords - like C/E. There's a lot of interesting stuff about it. We will build a body of knowledge on this channel. Plus I'm writing now a course on Piano voicings in the style of Keith and Lyle. Do you play keyboards?

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I'm that person who took piano lessons as a kid but never did anything with it. I've played other instruments as well. I still know how to play, but to me music is more about thought and ideas than about playing it. I occasionally do arranging.

  • @flyt993
    @flyt993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    devasted by his passing. i've been listening to this tune for 35 years. it's simply sublime. i used it to put my daughter to sleep, and she's been listening to it now for over a decade. the music he and pat created...untouchable.

  • @HarrisTrevorJ
    @HarrisTrevorJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brings tears every time. You need to talk about how certain chords hit THAT spot. And if you have it , you know, and I'd you do not, I'm truly sorry

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's like the human body, it's all those parts under the skin that matter. The voices leading from one chord to the next but also the timing of these changes. There are so many possibilities, that even great composers rely on Intuition and a to get it. You study music but you're never really sure how and when things are going to connect.

    • @HarrisTrevorJ
      @HarrisTrevorJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Buy, as you know, they all connect the the heart, and that what makes it ❤️

  • @thomasoleary970
    @thomasoleary970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for honoring the genius of Lyle Mays. This is a huge loss in my heart.

  • @jean-francoisleger
    @jean-francoisleger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always wander how Lyle manage to express that little thing burried deep inside my heart. It's like he "knew". Very few pieces of music bring me to tears so much. It still does. Wow. This post is like a gift for me this morning. Thanks mr. Shkolnik for sharing your vision and analysis of this masterpiece. I guess it does that same magic on you too.

  • @kimberlyandersonamft3031
    @kimberlyandersonamft3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watched this again today on 'Self-imposed Quarantine Day Five' and cried. Bawled. Thank you.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kimberly, I made a new one on September 15th - will be out later today (Saturday)

    • @kimberlyandersonamft3031
      @kimberlyandersonamft3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr. Guy Shkolnik Composer I’ll be waiting with eager ears and a soft heart. I love Sept. 15th too. Your work on these pieces means more to us than you may possibly ever know. ❤️

  • @dlneto
    @dlneto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Your approach to the song is almost as fantastic as the song itself!! I'm amazed!
    Thank you for sharing it!

  • @frederickakon3584
    @frederickakon3584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What you have made here is one of the most perfect analysis of a masterpiece. For several reasons. One is the Question and Answer approach which is underrated in analysis. That's the beginning to understand a good theme and often a good solo too. The second is the meaning of notes. You talk about the Cm7 on Bb which is the second degree instead of the first. But I would add that the Bb/D instead of D-7 that comes after is also a wonderful idea. Third is the little things that become obvious afterwards but at the moment of the composition it can takes hours or days to find the "good note with the good chord". I remember John Williams saying that he spent most of his time to the small details of notes when he worked on Star Wars and Harry Potter (whici is another masterpiece for me in terms of melody that brings you in a universe) for instance. But the most important lesson of your analysis is the spiritual meaning. It is linked with the Q&A approach but that is something every amateur or professional musician must do : what do I want to say with this melody and harmony ? What is my feeling ? The hesitation of the beginnng, the bridge and the final chords are full of meaning. The only thing I didn't understand in that composition is the last chord. It sounds a little bit like a "cliche" to end with this major one. Ok I am Home but it could end with the chord before in suspension... But it must mean something to Lyle so no problem :). That's why it is so important to mention Lyle Mays when he co-wrote the songs of the PMG. The details and sometimes some complete parts are his soul. By the way Thanks Guy, you have touched the Graal.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you, Fred! I agree with everything you said. Including the Bb/D. I personally love playing with the options of Dm7 vs. Bb/D ( in my tune Osake, I used them both, one on top of the other). About the last chord... I agree with you - Like Pat is saying about the opening First Circle with Forward March... "At the time it seemed like a good idea" :)

  • @Ozoneum1
    @Ozoneum1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remarkable that this was posted only a month before Lyle May's passing. Very perceptive analysis of the song.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah... It was just time to make the video, after all the other ones, but who knew other than his close family and friends... Thank you.

  • @BHAKTAANDESTRAGON
    @BHAKTAANDESTRAGON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your Love of Music and Soulful, Intelligent Insights are like a glass of pure Water.
    Thank you!

  • @rickelliott821
    @rickelliott821 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @mrbee8522
    @mrbee8522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Guy fantastic job, this is one of the few songs in my life that brings me to tears. I will miss Lyle indeed.

  • @bonaventuratintadore4741
    @bonaventuratintadore4741 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was trying to study for an exam and really avoided doing it for a number of months.
    I know that people listen to music while studying or reading, but I couldn’t find anything that rested my mind sufficiently.
    I listened to Dvorak, Symphony No 9 for The New World, which my mother introduced to me as a child. I played the Largo on the cello in 6th grade. When the Largo came on I sang along, because there are lyrics written as a Spiritual, “ Going Home”, which I sang at my father!s funeral. I realized, that I couldn’t study to this as background.
    Close to Home ( again the theme of being en route to Home, or a final resting place) came to mind. I put Lyle Mays on from TH-cam,and saw a live performance of Close To Home with Lyle and Pat Metheny ( previously I had only heard the CD) and again tried to simmer my mind down to study, but the performance was so magnificent, I could only listen and studying became the distraction to my enjoyment of Lyle’s piece. I stopped what I was doing again and next, as you tube can be random, there you were Dr., with your analysis of my favorite Lyle Mays composition.
    I don’t have the musical vocabulary for the analysis which I found enlightening, but I feel what Lyle was communicating went straight to the heart and soul of me.
    I listened to you play those phenomenal chords. I would be interested in your compositions, especially as you are a Lyle aficionado.
    I also happened upon Lyles’s composition with Bonnie Hermann entitled “Moses The Lawgiver” and “Mars. I was completely floored-so cosmic, so deeply spiritual and warm.
    I put down my book, listened to Lyle for a few hours, his music was the energy and peace that I needed to get me to focus.
    After listening to The Way Up, Part III, I turned off the music and studied seamlessly, taking my exam ,knowing that I would listen to the music again-my reward and dessert after having eaten my vegetables!
    Thank you!
    MariaBT 4/2/2024

  • @kenboome7510
    @kenboome7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Dr. Guy , I just want you to know how “right on“ and intuitively and analytically correct you are , with your teaching of Lyles music and also Pats I was a composition student of his, and Lyle was a houseguest on two separate occasions. One time for five days. I could easily write six pages of “Lyle moments” . Chess, mathematics, architecture informed everything he did from the ground up. Keep up the incredible powerful work Dr. guy. What a contribution, your making... KB

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ken, thank you very much for this. I appreciate it so much! Please share with us what you have from Lyle, the Facebook group is the place. Thank you again. Guy.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And to hear that from you really means a lot!

    • @kenboome7510
      @kenboome7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dr. Guy Shkolnik Composer - well guy you would understand this, on one visit actually was probably the eighth performance of the way up, Lyle flew up from Houston I picked him up in Dallas, put him up for the night and he graciously and fervently spoke that afternoon to 28 composer friends of mine here in Dallas. We did a two camera video shoot, and Nuendo recording 2 track audio. I promised him those recordings would not hit the Internet. There’s probably a family estate thing we need to take care of. But I have to tell you Dr. guy it was two hours and 15 minutes (part one) of high-level compositional analysis, inversion, retrograde, fibonacci, and anything and everything you could imagine explaining the different sections ofThe way up. Which Pat and Lyle actually had a color code assigned to the different sections. We should privately talk. All the best - you are doing such a great service. BTW I picked up a NORD grand and had a writing table extension fabricated and designed, for composing... anyways keep up exactly what you’re doing, nobody is doing it to your depth. Oh and the day I discovered you which was about four days ago I was actually working out some fingering for “LINK“. Ha. What a wonderful job you did in describing the counterpoint. I actually ran into this young pianist Pierre from Brooklyn whom transcribed SLINK, and sent me his copy. A few days later I introduced him to Lyle, and Lyle was so excited that someone was playing and transcribing on that level. Pierre is a private student of Gil. (Go figure right?) Lightning strikes again

    • @HarryMillerMusicOfficial
      @HarryMillerMusicOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenboome7510 Wow! Would love to see that video one day! I had an hour long phone conversation with Lyle right before "The Way Up" was released (I had gotten an advance promo copy) and I wish I had that conversation recorded--but it sounds like your video is even better... hope you can work it out to get it released--that's some information of historic significance!

  • @yvesjeaurond4937
    @yvesjeaurond4937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci beaucoup, maître Shkolnik. On sent votre passion. D'Ottawa (Canada).

  • @jjsc4396
    @jjsc4396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “So special”……indeed 🎹 🎼 ✨

  • @rodolfovelarde
    @rodolfovelarde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Guy... Congratulations. Excellent analysis of this song. The first time I listened this song was during a late night flight Lima (Peru) - Santiago (Chile) in May of 1987 using the LAN Chile music onboard of that time. I immediately fell in love of this song. it moved me. Believe me, during the flight probably around 3AM I repeated this song more than 3 times with eyes closed. I remember that magic moment very well as if it were yesterday. When I saw the name LyIe Mays in the music onboard listing (several musicians) I immediately selected this song because in that time I already knew Lyle Mays because of PMG, but this was the first song I listened as a solo piano player (Album Lyle Mays).

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a beautiful story Rudy... the first time I heard it was when a friend of a friend made me a recorded cassette. One side was Still Life And the second was Lyle’s solo album. I still have this cassette :) and thank you so much! :)

  • @j.o5717
    @j.o5717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Guy, best tribute to Lyle, R.I.P

  • @hakanselamoglu
    @hakanselamoglu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Sir,
    Unbelievable! For an uneducated music listener (that's me)
    you are reading and interpreting Lyle mays thoughts through his music.
    Interestingly; somehow I can understand what you mean.
    Music is magic.
    Best regards.

  • @paolopilutti1018
    @paolopilutti1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When at about 1985 i heard this album and this piece, that touched me deeply, Wow! It was a new horizon.
    Thanks Lyle for all wonderful music.

  • @Leo-jh3tw
    @Leo-jh3tw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best youtuber ever.

  • @davidjames8029
    @davidjames8029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what I particularly like about your analyses is that they combine the technical and theoretical with the humanity and emotion of music. All the theory in the world doesn't help if it doesn't move us

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey David thank you! I agree with you. I often find myself saying “we’re or learning music theory- we’re learning music” :)

  • @joegardner1416
    @joegardner1416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super cool man I've been playing since I was 12 I'm 64 and you have a wonderful way of explaining things brother nice job

  • @omargunason6563
    @omargunason6563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love your analysis .. I'm a huge fan of PMG and Lyle Mays. I play drums .... but not piano, but just adore your analysis! Thanks!!!

  • @Richardiba
    @Richardiba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great analysis. Glad that you used "The Way Up" to highlight his use of motif. You make music theory more palatable for a layman. Thank you

  • @TheJollycoppers
    @TheJollycoppers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It reminds me of the music of Michel Colombier just a bit...Old Fool Back on Earth, maybe. Lyle has his style though. He gave us beautiful music. R.I.P.

  • @MrBelKeys
    @MrBelKeys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tears ! Tears ! just say it now ! ... Hugs from Brazil !

  • @MuriloMBarquette
    @MuriloMBarquette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The most beautiful song ever heard... and I loved your analysis.
    RIP, Lyle Mays!!!!
    And you, Dr Shkolnik, you've got a new subscriber. Congratulations.
    I am a brasilian flutist and love PM & Lyle Mays works.

  • @rieske2000
    @rieske2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fantastic analysis ... but still magic. Thank you for these insights. Rest in love Lyle. Forever.

  • @JeffBostick222
    @JeffBostick222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this song is more touching and beautiful played simply on the piano. The full treatment by the PMG is wonderful but this version just makes it more intimate.

  • @ohwhen7775
    @ohwhen7775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just a sublime piece of music, I feel like talking forever about it and at the same time not saying anything to just listen to you play it. Thanks for the video on this one, it's really needed.
    His choice for the more American Em7 sound was probably for voice leading yet I prefer the flatter sound of the C in that chord regardless of voice leading, it's one of those interesting situations where perfect voice leading (in my opinion) isn't needed as the C just makes the chord more expressive for that brief moment, even with it sharing a common tone with the following chord.
    I hear "two" keys in total - Bb & F, (though I kinda think it's F predominantly). What else to say, the fact that the main melodies all land on warm, stimulating intervals - m7ths, b6ths, 11ths, really sets the mood for the piece.
    The signature Ocarina/Pan Flute synth that comes doubling the melody with its infamous soaring or howling like expressiveness, along with the pitch bends for those timeless blue notes meandering outside of the temperament that the acoustic piano can't do. All those details matter so much in the studio recording.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I enjoyed reading your comment so much and you’re right about everything. Including the scales AND what you said about it ultimately being in F major. This both deep and true. Thank you for that!
      Lyle knew well who would be the absolute best at mixing this album / the late Jan Erik Kongshaug. Thanks again!

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I did not hear that Kongshaug died. I have hundreds of albums he worked on, and nothing else sounds as beautiful.

  • @gregsaddie
    @gregsaddie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am not sure if this is the correct place to say this. But I just this second learned of the passing of Lyle Mays. Given how much of his contribution to music, is featured by Dr. Shkolnik, I immediately rushed here to express my sadness, but yet happiness. There is something becoming in all of this.... Thanks for the music Lyle. Your spirit lives on through the music, and through this channel. Condolences to everyone. G

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a guy who touched so many of us... what can I say, this is a very sad day for me.

  • @pitopito64
    @pitopito64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this song definitively breathtaking...and takes you "far from home"...wishing to come back to what your real home is...

  • @kimberlyandersonamft3031
    @kimberlyandersonamft3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ten months later and I'm still coming back to listen and re-listen to your breakdown and interpretation. I would love...LOVE to hear you play this piece in your style and flair in it's entirety. This brings tears to my eyes even though it is a technical analysis...it does not matter to my ears or to my heart. Thank you again. xo

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Kimberly! You need to listen to Lyle's 'What it takes' (TH-cam, Spotify). It's maybe his happiest piece ever. I love it so much. And when you do, notice how he adds his signature sound only at the end.... so beautiful. And his incredible piano solo ( the first electric piano solo is by Pat Coil). I'm sure you're going to hear all the shadows and lights in this piece.

  • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
    @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    If you like the video, don't forget to like it and subscribe - Let's grow this channel! :)
    Thanks, Guy.

    • @acimbobby
      @acimbobby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope so Guy. It is very advanced teaching here as well as who is listening to this music now. Pat is very popular all over the world. Lyle not so much known about him. Wonder if they will ever reform a band with both of them in it?

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who knows, but I think if Lyle was even "just" featured in some of the tracks of Pat's New album... imagine that!

    • @gregsaddie
      @gregsaddie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@acimbobby I have to think not, but hope so. I remember Lyle in the early nineties, saying he was most concerned about "how much time there is" and how he wanted to spend as much time as possible composing. Pat's touring and playing schedule is about as extreme as it gets. I'm not sure there exists a musician who has travelled and played more then Pat. My guess is that it comes down to time.

    • @gregsaddie
      @gregsaddie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, how do you follow up .. The Way Up. :)

    • @Theweeze100
      @Theweeze100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dr. Guy Shkolnik Composer
      Very nice. Thank you so much! RIP Lyle...

  • @Tryfieldanimas
    @Tryfieldanimas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I listen to this ... crying rivers😢deep pain .. still very heart broken. Rip magic Lyle

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In a letter to a friend, Lyle said that close to home was one of the simplest things he had written. Simple musically. But I think we all feel that it was like a mirror of his heart

  • @kloug2006
    @kloug2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idea that this composition is a succession of questions and answers, has opened my mind on a sublime musical landscape, at an intimately human scale.

  • @jean-francoiscrepet167
    @jean-francoiscrepet167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Merci Père Noel !!! merci pour cette analyse ; il se trouve que je travaille ce morceau en ce moment. Quel magnifique cadeau. Vous n'imaginez pas l'intense plaisir que votre travail me procure !!!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jean-Francois Thank you (I understand some French! ) so glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you!

  • @acimbobby
    @acimbobby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh my. It is a work of an angel by a mere man called Lyle. Thanks Guy, you are inside his mind and the way he composes. So much beauty in one song it is overwhelming to me. Yes ECM where they recorded some of this stuff. Interesting history. Do you remember John Surman, Miroslav Viteous. I was listening to this stuff when it was the 70's 80's. Some of these albums seem to be lost or like gold dust to find. No one has even posted much on youtube. Stuff I have been looking for for years not there.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Bob! Yes, of course, I have the John Surman album with Jack DeJohnette (on Apple Music) and Miroslav Vitous with Chick Corea. Do you know 'Dream So Real' by Gary Burton (Music by Carla Bley) and the young Pat?

    • @acimbobby
      @acimbobby 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I have heard it now. Lovely stuff and so uncluttered. Was that the Gary who wrote "Genuine Tong Funeral" that was a special one to me all those years back. Thanks all this good music seems to keep me alive!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@acimbobby Sounds like Carla Bley Wrote it - but we'll have to look it up

    • @acimbobby
      @acimbobby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I was wrong, it was Carla Bley and you are right. Thank the Father for WIKI.

  • @sthulander1
    @sthulander1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gotta tell ya, Guy, I'd forgotten about your brilliant analysis and channel. I'M BACK !! Thank you, SIR ! Lovely appreciation of the master, Lyle Mays. And, how is it that a great composer/pianist/arranger could come out of a little town - Wausaukee, Wisconsin? Blows my mind.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you and welcome back! Lyle said he grew up listening to mainly two Jazz albums, one of them is Bill Evans in Montreux with Jack DeJohnette

  • @kimberlyandersonamft3031
    @kimberlyandersonamft3031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a new piece of music for my ears. I have to admit being a total Pat Metheny and PMG devotee, I only have one Lyle Mays album, and honestly have only listened to it a few times. This piece makes me want to wade into the waters of his collection and see what is there. I had a lovely conversation with Lyle after the 'We Live Here' concert in Portland years ago. Thank you for this video Guy. They are always, always appreciated.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh Kimberly... I envy you for being about to discover that first album of Lyle... Give it time, it's a treasure. And thank you :)

  • @johncalberg1573
    @johncalberg1573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely his best composition. I always get goosebumps when I hear it. It's so deep an beautifull. You can even play it to people who never heard it before and they will react with visible signs of emotions when hearing it

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At first it was my least favorite tune of the album, now it’s my favorite:)

  • @landjwilk
    @landjwilk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this. He was a genius, for sure. Your breakdown nailed it; beautiful playing (BTW).

  • @ajadrew
    @ajadrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RIP Lyle...the hairs on my spine were electrified the first time I saw you with Pat in London many moons ago. And thank you Dr Guy for this video. Your playing & thoughts resonate with me Sir

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Andrew. I felt the same way when I saw them together.

    • @ajadrew
      @ajadrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Such beautiful music!

  • @TuesdayWells27
    @TuesdayWells27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cry every time I hear this song.
    I wrote a screenplay around this song.
    Hearing it makes me so sad Lyle May's is gone....

  • @enricoflor3601
    @enricoflor3601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Dr. Shkolnik! You made the wonderful mystery of Lyle's music comprehensible now. Feels like I've been shown an insight to a personal problem I can't begin to understand and solve.

  • @mrguillemot
    @mrguillemot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the section at 9.50mins had a flavour of Dave Grusin. So interesting to watch, thank you Dr Guy

  • @Jorge-y2j6w
    @Jorge-y2j6w 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful way to explain the beauty of Lyle's music,thank you.

  • @stevedigrazia4842
    @stevedigrazia4842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for bringing Lyle closer to us now in our time of grief. Missing him profoundly. You are home now Lyle.

  • @newton5651
    @newton5651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci, Guy, simply Merci...

  • @floydthompson8668
    @floydthompson8668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this whole LYLE MAYS album! It's like a life's journey, and other worldly. ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. Real artists challenge the boundaries of what is, take us someplace that did not exist, and inspire creativity.

  • @jerroldfrank5869
    @jerroldfrank5869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. I can only imagine being able to play like that.

  • @olafaalop1188
    @olafaalop1188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That tune breaks my heart

  • @mics6198
    @mics6198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! this is exactly the explanation of the language of Lyle. What a master and how many masterpieces he left us. Thank you for this Mr. Shkolnik!

  • @101xaplax101
    @101xaplax101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your descriptions of music are so extraordinary……..thank you

  • @heavestlus8764
    @heavestlus8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this analysis almost as much the original composition

  • @albertobaudino1963
    @albertobaudino1963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Indimenticabile uomo, in un unico, silenzio, riempito con il suo immenso suono; Lyle Mays ..❤️

  • @spibeson1
    @spibeson1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do so much more than understand, describe and analyse what Lyle composes, but, crucially, you feel it. That makes all the difference. Thank you. You add to the Lyle experience.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Paul. I mean... I have to feel it. This is what drives me to talk about this music. And being able to share it with people like me, who love Lyle so much - that's the best.

  • @hispanochino
    @hispanochino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Guy, Lyle's ability to evoke feelings reminds me a lot of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. Using simple yet deep motifs which can transport anyone to another dimension. What makes Lyle so special is he does this seemlessly and using chord and harmony more appropriate for our time. I think the improvisation part (which was not completely covered in the analysis) is perhaps portraying his journey home. This chord progression transmits a feeling of movement/travel. Thanks so much Guy for your analysis. RIP Lyle.

    • @hispanochino
      @hispanochino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the way, I love how your Nord Stage sounds.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you (I wish I knew your name). I'm sensing that there is a deep truth in what you're saying here about Beethoven and motivic development. There is a new video here "Lyle Mays Jazz Piano Masterclass" where he talks about the organization of an improvised solo (just audio) check it out.

    • @hispanochino
      @hispanochino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your reply Guy. My name is Fernando and I just left China due to the New Corona Virus.

    • @hispanochino
      @hispanochino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll definitely check out your suggested video. Keep Up the great work Maestro!

  • @gaasstationmagazine3814
    @gaasstationmagazine3814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes..he's remembering home..his Parents and family..and he can't wait to get there..

  • @SlimMixer
    @SlimMixer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tears in my eyes...

  • @ronnam5385
    @ronnam5385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this video. Having been Lyle's fan over years, this is the by far most informative assessment of the masterpiece. I am sure I am gonna watch this again tomorrow and many more..

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Ron, I'm so glad it adds something to the experience of listening to this beautiful music.

  • @arew234
    @arew234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now THAT was a wonderful lecture! I subscribed of course. Commentary about Lyle was fascinating and needs to be listened to again. Thank you Dr. Shkolnik. Спасибо !!

  • @LeoGarciaMusic
    @LeoGarciaMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That's great, Guy! This is one of my all-time favorite compositions and your work does it justice. Your analysis and playing keep delighting all of us Metheny/Mays fans. By the way, your piano is sounding amazing!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Leo :) I took my time preparing this one. I spend time tweaking the sound, adding a gentle pad that's almost not there - but adds something... Thank you :)

  • @briciola37
    @briciola37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ascoltare una spiegazione della musica così articolata e competente è come bere buon vino con un esperto che ti spiega i sapori, i retrogusti, l'esposizione della vigna (nord o sud), la terra e la sua acidità o alcalinità..... complimenti

  • @greghutch2014
    @greghutch2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes we never really truly appreciate the contributions of the greatest musicians until they have returned home to Source Energy. I always knew that he was present, a member of Pat's group, a creator on a plane of his own, but only now that he has decided to leave us with his absence can I truly appreciate his corpus that he has left us to ponder, to love, to appreciate. This song has been played by me everyday at least 20-30 times and I still can't get enough of it. I have listened to versions by Uwe Karcher, Andre Mehmari, Dr. Guy Shkolnik, Alex Sill on guitar seemingly holding back tears as he played this song, by himself and with Pat' group. I had the pleasure to see him perform at the Greek Theatre in around 1994-1995, the entire show was nothing less than Heavenly. You are missed only in person but we have your catalog to keep us "Close to You".

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes Greg... Keeps us close to him. Lyle was magic. I still have some more videos on him in the making.

  • @leonardocartes1253
    @leonardocartes1253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. You have actually brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for your beautiful understanding of the piano/keyboard and for channeling Lyle's romanticism in musical form. Your explanation of this wonderful music is amazing. I am such a huge fan of Lyle Mays and you have done an amazing job of, among other things, demonstrated his wonderful phrasing. I'll never forget that Lyle once said that, " instrumental music has its' own syntax". I have always loved the stories that Lyle told.

  • @howtoalternatepickandmuchm660
    @howtoalternatepickandmuchm660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favourite compositions ever ... you see it exactly the same way as I do. Thank you for this Guy.

  • @TheKarmageddon
    @TheKarmageddon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What a great piece! Never heard someone Playing so soulful and artisticly. I love this open sounding classical "german" Voicing. Would like to have some insights into drop 2 voicings, the basic voiceleading rules, a lesson would be fine :) Thank you very much. What was the ending home chord, somewhere in heaven I believe :D

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks John! I will make many videos on voice-leading (already made on about the 3 basic rules of triad chords - last week's video). That last chord is a Dmaj7#11. If you let yourself play the D Lydian (or A Major) Scale and allow both hands to go up - even random intervals - you'll get nice-sounding things out of it :)

  • @KCJazzKeys
    @KCJazzKeys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My absolute favorite Lyle composition. The perfect piece to end an amazing album. He keeps repeating the same motif with subtle differences in the harmonic movement which builds so much emotion. Wonderful video on this piece.

  • @arew234
    @arew234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn what a teacher you are Dr.Guy!!!

  • @ninob5155
    @ninob5155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a brilliant analysis and breakdown, thank you!

  • @charlesmoore8634
    @charlesmoore8634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been missing him terribly since Feb. 10, 2020. I have many favorite Lyle tunes but this one is so, so special. In a way, your insights and analysis are comforting. They are also musically enlightening. Many thanks. 🙏

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks you Charles! I've noticed about Bill Evans, we don't think of him as gone - he's still here through the music. I see a new generation of young musicians discovering him. Same with Lyle. He's gone but his spirit is here.
      Have you listened to Lyle's 'What It Takes"? - it's his happiest music ever - I love it so much!

    • @charlesmoore8634
      @charlesmoore8634 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Agree, they are still here in that way. I know most of his work, but not 'What It Takes'. Listening to it now - thank you. Have you seen this improvised thing with Mark Walker? It's killin' - and recorded near Boston, where I am. Check out the 'Read More' detail: th-cam.com/video/ykIk93u0dRA/w-d-xo.html

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesmoore8634 I knew about this video, will watch it now. PMG had played ‘what it takes’ (there’s a recording somewhere) but didn’t get the groove right. On this album they nailed it.

  • @MeninoDeLisboa1961
    @MeninoDeLisboa1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dr Shkolnik. I never studied music, but I deeply understand Lyle's music on an emotional level. As far as I am concerned, together with Milton Nascimento, they are the most creative musicians of our time, in their genre. What you do, thankfully, allows me (us) to appreciate the highly complex originality of Lyle's music. Thank you.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! A close friend of Lyle has recently told me that for Lyle it was all about emotions. That was the driving force that turned musical "words" into poems...

  • @greghutch2014
    @greghutch2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your taking apart this song, the question and answer description has opened another level of appreciation of you and Lyle's contribution to this world. 2020 has brought us many challenges, but you and Lyle have found a way to remove the pain, sadness and confusion and allow us to transcend the mundane and retreat to a place that is truly 'Close To Home"
    Love, appreciation and gratitude for your patience and time to show us the depth of this work.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Greg, reading your post and thinking of Lyle... it still hurts.
      I do have two more great PMG in the making, one of them (mostly) Lyle's Cross the Heartland is one of my most favorite by him, and the other is Pat Metheny's Mas Alla )

  • @sylvester474
    @sylvester474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. One of the most amazing videos I've ever seen at TH-cam...

  • @criswell14
    @criswell14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first time I heard this, I stopped what I was doing and just stared at the sky. The path to home was somewhere before and now. Incredible composer, so sad he's gone. His music lives on in me.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know what, I remember talking to a friend, mainly listening to the other pieces on the album, he asked me if I thought it was on the same level of the rest of the album... it took us time to fall in love with it. It's so beautiful.

  • @MsRiccig
    @MsRiccig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as joe zawinul said dont be sad that its over be grateful that it was

  • @jennywilson7874
    @jennywilson7874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for this - i am immersing myself in Lyle today on this birthday of his after his passing. I love how you are breaking this down.

  • @badlt.8029
    @badlt.8029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this upload. As a fan of Pat and Lyle for many years, I appreciate their contribution to the art. RIP Lyle. You will be missed.

  • @AdrianMelia-0
    @AdrianMelia-0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely love this piece, an all time favourite, and I also love your flawless performance and intriguing analysis. Thank you once again.

  • @SirChantsalot
    @SirChantsalot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's beauty. This song is damn near perfect.

  • @laurieyork5186
    @laurieyork5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your thorough examinations of Mays and Matheny's work are so rich and incredibly valuable. Thank you so much for taking the time to make such excellent and informative videos. RIP Lyle.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Laurie! This is stuff I've been thinking of for years. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @paolopilutti7824
    @paolopilutti7824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful, thanks! What a piece, What a sensitivity added to a big hearth and intelligence, that is Lyle and thanks to you for explanation, very interisting.

  • @Micko7774
    @Micko7774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Guy for this excellent analysis. Nothing could be a better tribute to Lyle's genius. תודה רבה גיא

  • @edgreen8140
    @edgreen8140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your insights on this brilliant man and brilliant tune!

  • @john1469
    @john1469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you thank you thank you. What a beautiful, thoughtful, sensitive and accurate analysis. This piece is the closest piece of music that I've ever had to my heart - so much so, I would like it played at my funeral. I think what makes it so personal and special to me is a combination of a) it being an extremely little-known piece of music (even among contemporary jazz fans or even Metheny/Mays fans), and b) it being all the things you talk about in your analysis. I have absolutely always thought of the main motif as a "call/response" or "q/a", and I've also always thought of the piece as a whole as a most beautiful piece of reflection, introspection, self-inquisition, and finally peace.
    The Lyle Mays album was the very first CD I ever bought (shortly after it was released in 86). My parents lived in Israel at the time, and in my long hot summer there in 87 I played this track so often. It's accompanied me through my life ever since then, and it's the piece I automatically turn to when I have times of self-doubt or the need for calm.
    I feel that the beginning and the end of this piece are so important to its overall composition. For me, they book-end the body of the piece with a sort of out-of-body meditative aura, and I've always therefore thought of the whole piece as a personal introspection arising out of the "mist", and returning back to this "mist" by the end.
    I cannot tell you how much I love, appreciate and value the analytical videos you've done on Metheny/Mays tunes. I am a self-taught pianist - I cannot read music (lifelong regret) but I have a fantastic ear and can play most non-classical stuff straight after listening to it (including much of "Close to Home"), and I play to performance level. I "see" melodies, chords, and chord relationships intuitively - and I think this is what results in me instinctively experiencing music as something well beyond the superficial notes and words. And this is why your work here resonates so strongly with me, I think. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John. You know, Lyle's close friend told me that Lyle used to say to him that he started composition from the feeling he wanted to communicate to the audience. And only then - the musical means he was going to use.
      When I made this video I intuitively used these non-musical descriptions of the music. What surprised me was the way it resonated with musicians who do know music theory. That was a revelation to me because for me personally - I've always thought in terms of "this note "wants to move forward" type of thing. I see harmony and progressions as dramatic sequences... And apparently it resonates with many more musicians.
      I'm glad you like the videos - I'm also on Instagram (by the same name) - I got daily content - maybe you'll find it interesting :)

  • @やまちゃんの一言
    @やまちゃんの一言 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Soulful performace and heartful commentary for Lyle Mays! It make me moved!

  • @robertwhitmer2935
    @robertwhitmer2935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome analysis

  • @SirChantsalot
    @SirChantsalot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if I have ever heard a more beautiful composition. I think this is his masterpiece ✨️

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It took me time to realize how much I like it, because the rest of the tracks on the album are so good!

  • @lenhumbird
    @lenhumbird 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My gosh, I adore your analysis of Lyle Mays and his works. All I can do is to encourage you to present more of your wonderful musical analysis that goes far beyond the notes. You really feel the music. Of course you play like an expert. But you also present a story, your own interpretation of what the composer is trying to say.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Len! I appreciate it! 🙏 I want to invite you to my Instagram channel, I got many more videos there (I'm there by the exact same name)

  • @matt-spaiser
    @matt-spaiser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for another incredible video! You open my eyes to things that have been in front of me for decades. You make these concepts so accessible in how you describe them, yet also in how you play this piece (and others) it is very easy to hear what you are talking about.
    I think it's so funny you bring up that Hans Zimmer commercial. I see it all the time too. I'm not a fan of his music, but I think he makes a great point there. Still, he's never told a story anywhere as meaningful as Lyle tells with Close to Home (or any other piece of his, for that matter). Zimmer needs to watch your videos!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Matt! I've been watching this video from 1982 for years and only a few days ago I realized that the middle section from the album, was not there yet at the time. I think it gets the music out of the area of Bb - F - Dm, by going to this open sounding Eb11. Also that small melodic change - stuff that I realized only when preparing the video.
      By the way, do you know Jon Brion's music?

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I knew that the middle section wasn't there, but I didn't notice that small melodic change. I really appreciate you pointing that out. There's another version of "Mars" from 1979, I believe, that's also a bit different.
      Pat and Lyle always developed their music before recording it. I find it fascinating to hear early versions of many of their tunes that were not yet complete. And sadly Pat seems to think that some of Lyle contributions to his tunes are not essential. Technically Pat can play and solo over Minuano and Third Wind without using anything Lyle wrote.
      I do not know Jon Brion.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My absolute favorite Lyle Mays composition. Beautifully broken down. Thanks 🙏🏻 ❤️

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Marcus! It's amazing how we all connect with this tune... what does it says about what Bill Evans called - "the universal mind"?...