Depends on how it breaks-if it’s the screen-repair! If it’s anything internal-replace! Living in North America we pay too much for cellphones already to not expect a perfect working phone tbh. If we paid less to begin with and repairs were more common and actually done right I think people would be more into repairs!!! Buying used phones here is already considered a huge risk.
I’ve had my iPhone 6s for 4 years! And people make fun of me constantly. My phone will not hold an update. It’s Apple that is forcing me to buy NEW. I would love to keep my current phone.
@@itry2understand800 that’s honestly my worry too! Idc about anything else that comes with the new iOS just the security updates. I need a new screen honestly. Gone through a few glass screen protectors now, I hate ordering new ones online, can’t find them anywhere in store anymore for this size. I LOVE having a button still. I can’t imagine not having a physical button, just a touch screen. I plan on keeping this phone as long as I can!! But it’s so frustrating and getting more full by the day I swear. Who can really afford the iCloud prices either?? Such a ripoff!! Smh.
@@itry2understand800i applaud you! repairability is apples exact problem. i got an iphone gifted and take good care od it, but my next phone will be easily repairable. a fairphone most likely. i hope it will be available in the US soon
THANK YOU, INDIA!!! I FUCKING LOVE YOU!!! I swear! I'm so ecstatic with all the great things coming out of India! Keep on rocking the world with all you do! I know things aren't perfect... All countries have their strengths and weaknesses. But I'm loving how much India is rocking the world!~ GO, INDIA!! 🥰
@@Manish_254 Heeey... I'm not white! I'm speckled! 😆😂 It's hard to see my freckles in the picture... I'm honestly a huge fan of India~ I've loved Bollywood and Tollywood since university. I'm even trying to learn Hindi and Telugu. It's so hard! I love Japan for saving my life~ And I love India for her unique culture, lovely people, and fantastic music! If I could tan? I would... I can't help being born with Irish skin. But I get it. I completely understand where you're coming from and I'm glad you get a kick out of it~ I'm on Team Humanity! I don't care what country it is, if they're making the world better? I love them!
India is a land of Reduce/Repair/Reuse/Reycle/Resale/Redistribute/Repurpose, we not only just recycle or repair we tend to use less resource, keep reusing stuffs, redistribute them to other family members, maids, Repurpose them to something else, resale them(sometimes to 3rd or 4th level of users). And we do it with literally everything starting from cars and motorcycles to house, furniture, to electronics to clothes to plastic bottles. It's a national level OCD and I am proud of it(because I have that RE-OCD even more than the average). The only thing we do need focus is when it comes to food, we waste a lot of food.
But nowdays many bad/showoff/दुष्ट people(पृथ्वी पर भार व्यक्ति), due to having increased salaries are just throwing away plastic, 2-3 year old products, clothes, smartphones, home items into the environment instead of repairing or reusing or repurposing them.
Yes , when my father bought a new phone, he gave the old one to my sister for college, when my sister bought a new phone than the old phone was sold to a carpenter who had visited our house for some repairs
@@robertlee6338 it's a big problem everywhere. If not for knockoff Chinese parts, many repairs would be impractical. If original parts are available it benefits everyone Except the company so that's part of the fight. Also, I've been following LR since long and he's been advocating for lot more than just cheap parts.
@@robertlee6338 ngl it did go over ur head. Example. Apple's soldered SSDs, touchbar, rivet keyboards. Serialising things like displays, batteries. Many other manufacturers copying the same stuff. It's made to immediately go to E waste even if its just a simple resistor defect.
@@D402S PPP doesn't really apply to this scenario. My phone costs me the same in India (~15000Rs) and elsewhere (~200$). The difference now is how much it costs to repair (2000Rs vs 100$).
I've never used a phone for less than 9 years. Never felt like I was lagging behind technologically. From my perspective, today's consumers are committing an ecological crime when they throw away a device they've used for an year or so.
@@TheBooban that's not true. You don't need the last OS for apps. Most apps require android 5.0 (2014) or 6.0 (2015). So you could buy a phone on 2010 and still get android 5 or 6, so that's an excuse. I don't say you must have a phone for 10 years, but 5 is a good number. I have my Poco F2 Pro 4 years (from 2020) and I have android 12. So I can hold it for at least 2 or 3 more years and still be able to use 99% of apps.
@@TheBooban One can easily use a mobile device for 5+years. The biggest concern would be 4G 5G 6G upgrades but for an avg user its not an issue. I am still using an 4G device without any issues except when my friends show off their 5G devices.
Remember no matter how Unfixable you make your product, 1) There's always a Chinese who'll make it cheaper 🗿 2) There's always an Indian who'll fix it. 🗿
Let me just appreciate how beautifully this piece has been presented by DW. Detailed. Both from the ground reality to the highest authority and the lady is a charm . God bless.
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Before 2015 it was rare for phones not to have swappable batteries. Now it is rare not to have a permanant sealed battery. The most common problem which causes people to buy a new phone is degraded battery capacity. Manufacturers decided to sacrifice the environment with ewaste to make more money.
@@soccerchick1I think Europe is getting a new law for the batteries to be replaced. Also you can change it yourself, it's super easy. You just need a heat gun or even a hairdryer and a 15 euros aliexpress battery.
@@albertogog8567 I’m in Canada lmao were WAAAAAY behind. Even farther than the US tbh. We pay the most for phones out of anyone in the world smh. You have to order any part online if you can get it here and the shipping ALWAYS cost more than the part itself. We have jump+ and shops like that to fix some problems like screens but that’s about it. Our government does not care about our cost of living tbh.
Can we build a system where electronics manufacturers have to catalog the repair cost of each of the component in the product and the total cost of the components is not allowed to exceed 120% (arbitrary number) of the retail price of the full product. This should in theory, prevent manufacturers from having excessive markups on the spare parts.
But they are already selling products at low price. For eg the profit from selling 40+ Lakshmi fortuner is 50k or something because GST and road tax is around 18 lakhs so companies make profit using repairs that is why they don't want people to repair or provide parts it is govt that make customers life sh*t
It will be harder. Assembling an entire phone can be done by an unskilled labour. On the other hand, disassembling a phone, finding fault, correcting the fault, and reassembling the phone requires skilled labour, which is costlier than unskilled labour.
Companies are forcing us to buy new products by not giving updates, making it laggy, reducing battery life, degrading camera, making its spare parts unavailable..all these tempts me to buy a new phone else i would happily use my phone atleast 5 years. Presently my average is just three years.
@@FlabbyTabbyI've been using Android my entire life. Apart from the system apps that I haven't figured a way to uninstall I have uninstalled all the trash apps. It works just fine. I have no games on my phone. Only three main social media apps, and a couple of other apps. My main concern while having a phone is delay, hanging, storage space. The phone I have at present solves all these. So unless it starts to give me headaches I'm planning to keep this one.
In Tokyo Olympics 2020, Japan made all of the event medals by recycling e-waste. Just an amazing way of how waste can be literally converted to Gold!!!
Olympic medals are no made of gold, just coating Recycling most things often needs a great amount of energy and effort which often has a backdoor carbon footprint. The best way to reduce e waste is to use devices for proper life cycle and only upg after a decent period.
India has had repair and upcycling as part of it's culture for generations. Upon realising the state of consumer electronics, as a step to help, I switched to second hand. My two phones, bluetooth speaker, earbuds, monitor and even wired earphones are all second-hand. And I'll make them long last. Thank you for bringing super-important topics like these which fly under the radar!
10:52 I'm an American and I have to disagree that we're not far behind. I think public opinion in the US is equally in favor of right to repair as it is in the EU, but legislation is much further behind.
The labor cost is astronomical. In 2017, I want to replace my broken laptop screen, the labor cost was $50 on top of screen cost of $45. I watched a DIY YT video and did it myself.
@souravjaiswal-jr4bj in my experience when getting things repaired they tend to list most of the cost as labor costs, regardless of whether they really are. I had my clarinet repaired recently, there was at the time a shortage of the particular piece I needed fixed, and eventually the repair shop, which specializes in repairs not making parts, had to make their own. But they still listed the part as costing next to nothing and all the cost being labor (it was a fair price in total, just the breakdown was wonky).
U haven't seen the scale of e waste from USA and Australia its astronomi ,repair culture isnt even in the mindset for most ,most of the e waste is dumped in developing countries by ships in name of recycling thus polluting whole world not just america
My father used his smart phone for 5 years... After 3 the battery went bad... He found a shop in my hometown (Mumbai) that replaces only the battery for 20$ and he extended its life by another 2.5 yrs.. He xhanged the battery 3x in that period before the phone died... Now manufacturers seal the battery in so theres no scope for such knack
We all have changes battery. I had a keypad Samsung in 2013 which was my first phone then mom got me a smartphone in 2015 and I had old one too but one day I was walking on road when phone slipped my hand, the back cover opened and battery went into the drain & you know in India's drain, what's gone is gone. So, I went on nearby shop, bought a Panasonic battery, it fit that model but it was thicker so the back cover won't close properly so I basically closed it with rubber😄. I last checked it in 2020 and it was still working although now it is somewhere in my house and I can't find it (I only have one sim since lockdown that's why I wasn't using two phones).
@@userre85 It's called not being wasteful. Indians aren't mindless consumers. We buy only what's necessary and maximize their utility, even beyond their original purpose.
@@gadidakodaka ah yes only Pakistan can have such a thing (I'm being sarcastic btw). FYI that culture is bigger in India that's why the documentary is on India. You're a fool if you think such a thing is limited to pakistan
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The 12k cost is for replacing the screen they are not really repairing, repairing that display will be much cheaper might be around 20$ depends on vendor for your's model in which only the external glass will separated from the screen and new glass will be installed your display will still be original and you will face no issues after that if it is done correctly. I worked in the field and it was fun to work on phones, screen repair is very common most of technician can do that easily, best part about the job is when someone had problem in the motherboard and has shown phone to multiple shops and have no hopes of getting it repaired and then if we are able to fix that thing, the smile on customers face that's the biggest satisfaction
@@putraduha3176 yup they just replace whole part they don't do any repairing, even if one capacitor is shorted they will repair whole motherboard which is not required and you will loose all your data
@@gouravfromuk service center can provide you 100% original back glass, but you should go in your nearest mobile market and check the quality and price of their glass, they probably have copy but they are also good quality it's upto you, if you wan't to pay extra premium for some quality, back glass doesn't create any difference in actual working
I love how Indian people (still) have the skills available so widely distributed in their country to repair ANYTHING. When I was in India I saw a person getting their umbrella repaired on the street after it broke after a heavy rain in August. I would have thrown my umbrella away. It really made me think of how wasteful I lived. Unfortunately, in my home country I wouldn't even know where to go with a broken umbrella. People suggest me always to "just throw it away".
it won't have any useful effect. Taylor Swift's emissions are way higher than millions combined. don't worry about planet. we'll be long gone. ig that's one advantage of being a mortal.
Would you be interested in knowing there are people who repair chappal/sandals or basically footwear on the streets. When I was a child my parents bought me a new one only if the old was soo worn out. I still do the same.
The corporations will burn it down, or stop giving "donations" to the government. They only thing you can do in America is what the corporations want, because they are the real rulers of America.
In China, there are a biggest market of Refurbished Mobile & these are export to Africa & rest of the country. India have the opportunities to get the market. Now need skilled Labour as well as eco collection process of set collection.
This is not just exclusive to Delhi i live in Goa, and if you have anything that's broken there's always someone who knows how to fix it at any market with equipment they found in the kitchen
Recognise the beautiful Asian repair shops going against western rich lobbyists. In Thailand I found drum vats of printer ink connected to suction pipes directly on to the printer cartridges, even Philippine’s when I travelled had the same repair shop for everything. The more I grow up the more I understand western greed hiding behind law making governments.
1:38 They're quoting excessive sums b/c she talks and looks like an NRI and is running around with a crew working for a western media outlet lol Vendors in India will absolutely stiff you if they think you're not a local.
I have had my MI phone from 2019 and still working great, i used to switch phone yearly before but now i am very proud to be using same phone for 5 years and gonna drag one more year, and buy second hand phone after. I am proud because i know the things about the e-waste and climate, if we want more people to have such mindset, right education and messege like this should be promoted so people are proud to use things for years instead of proud to be buying the most expensive and latest gadget available in market (which all company wants you to do).
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I study in Germany. In theory we learn a lot about life cycle assessment and reparing, etc. But very rarely something is repaired here. And it's disappointing.
We have had a repair and reuse culture by default in Indian families. This culture of buying every two years was new to me as I grew up. So developing countries in general are proactive in that regard I think, UNLESS consumer behavior is being forcefully manipulated by giants like Google and Apple by bringing annual features and deeming their older models incompetent. This should be reigned in and a Irrepairabikity tax should be imposed on products that are low on reoairability.
Quite easy to replace screen tbh, only issue is getting good quality display. Often parts are sold as genuine/original yet they obviously are way worse.
This... I've heard people complain about heating problems in redmi, some of my family members did have that issue. But I've been using redmi my whole life and it's okay so far. Meets my needs. I'm happy so.
Good that India also tries to tackle this issue. But more impactful are the EUs steps for right to repair as no company can deny the European market. You can see now that this legislation will cascade down to other countries to adopt those norms as well. Happy to see all of these developments.
my grandparents still use their old ass nokia from 2003 that's pretty crazy compared to newer android phones that will literally break down after 3 years
Remarkable video! It’s alarming to see how rapidly electronic waste is growing and the detrimental impact it has on our environment. It’s heartening to see India’s innovative approach to tackle this issue. The Right To Repair and Circular Economy are indeed crucial steps towards a sustainable future. Planet A’s commitment to exploring eco-friendly alternatives and challenging our perceptions about climate change is commendable. Looking forward to more insightful content every Friday. Together, we can make a difference. 🌍💚
The reporter could have found a better model of her phone at cheaper price in these same market. In India returning products when replacing with new is very common. And hence there is a huge market of selling second products too. Yes mobile phones are sort of very small number but larger appliances, you can buy the best brands at less than half the price any day.
Only wise doing that if ownership is properly transferred. You don't know who will end up having that phone and use it how. It shouldn't link back to you if they do anything illegal using the phone
While some spare parts are horrendously marked up, this misses the fact that providing a whole spare parts supply chain is far from free, volumes a lower, storage times are longer, and more. And this doesn’t include the labour costs associated with dismantling, diagnosing and reassembling which is typically a very manual process compared to the highly automated processes of initial assembly
The repairability should be a design consideration to make the manual process smoother. Most companies actually try to discourage this by unnecessarily complicating the design. I agree with you on the logistics issue of spare parts though
I agree on one part that the supply chain issue is there. But if you document the repair process, then I'm sure there is an equivalent unbranded product in the chinese market that is going to be in the supply chain. And for the reparibility, phones were fine with metal backs and glue only for the display where the rest of the parts can be removed. And yet they stayed the same weight as phones made now. I mean there is a way to make products look beautiful even with visible screws
@@sidarthg2477 chinese parts only work for parts that are easily reverse engineered. No company would be prepared to give up sensitive IP so another company can make a spare part without rigorous licensing deals in place. And this actually the current state of affairs. Outside samsung, most major players phones are contract manufactured (in china). Most phones also offer ingress protection that wasn’t available with the old screwed on metal backs (and while still possible would increase costs significantly. Plus using single/limited cycle micro connectors etc are all there to save costs and make the phones less serviceable
unsurprisingly the only thing they have on the portal is some links to their official device support websites. No direct links to manuals or part details.
Excellently made video. There is so much work and documentation to be done here in India that your work is literally worth gold. We need more video documenting of the way things work here because it is extremely important for people to know.
A decade ago, I could have easily repaired most of my electronics with ease and at low cost. Now its difficult to find a store with right knowledge/skills and spare parts. Even if you do find one, its expensive.
Who’s upgrading from the iPhone 14 Pro Max to the iPhone 15 Pro Max 🙌 People literally do this, which is crazy! Motorola toyed with the idea of modular mobiles, I wonder why it has not manifested…it’s such a good idea to improve longevity of devices while upgrading functionality and reducing e-waste. Amazing reporter btw! She speaks so clearly 👍
Making easily repairable devices also has an associated cost. The fairphone is a good example of this, it is bigger/bulkier, heavier and more expensive than equivalent performance models from other manufacturers. Making electronics compact and “cheap” (automated) to assemble often uses techniques that are inherently difficult to repair.
The fairer option of anything is always more expensive! I think I'm going to buy a Fairphone once my old one stops working - I like that they even have on their site that "the most ecological/fair phone you can have is the one you already own" (paraphrased)
@@hrani not always, but in consumer electronics it is a good rule of thumb. There is definitely a market out there, but the fact is the majority of consumers are either quite cost sensitive, or aesthetics/marketing sensitive
I don't see how repairable makes things always more bulky. FairPhone is a bad example because 1. They only have access to limited parts they can build with 2. Simply including a fair wage makes it "expensive" (or, in other words: As cheap as can be without exploiting)
An easily repairable device is something that has easily available spare parts and instruction manuals on replacement steps. That is exactly what companies are avoiding by making special custom parts and tools AND not making them available to the public. It has nothing to do with being modular or open.
@@jurgennicht4626 I would assume there's always a very slight weight increase when using less delicate components and shapes, and planning for easy access has an effect on the layout of things... For example, eight tiny screws holding parts in housings and their fixings probably take up more weight and space than a hair thin layer of epoxy holding down a piece that everything else is under! Making it more bulky because of making it more durable is probably also a design choice: they know people who want it won't mind too much.
I've had my note 10 + refurbished twice since I bought it new in 2019. Still works flawlessly. And a new battery and screen every two years. 300$ and Samsung does it themselves
I'm using my phone since 2019 same phone never got in trouble with this piece, just got some new cover and screen guard again and agian when broken but nothing anything else , my phone gives me every service i require what new phones give and I don't see a requirement of buying a new phone each year and it's not a backwards thing it's beautiful to recycle ♻️
My first PC was an assembled one, and I ran it as long as I could with RAM and video card upgrades. Sadly, there came a time to upgrade the CPU, but the new ones weren’t backward-compatible with the RAM and video card, so the idea of modularity went right out the window. Later, I owned a Nokia 3310 which was built like a tank and lasted me 5 years before I was forced to buy myself a smartphone to go the digital path that India was marching on. It took three tries with Samsung before I realised that the security and linearity of Apple software (not hardware, mind you) is what made for much longer lasting phones. Now, I’ve owned an iPhone 11 for the last 4 (5?) years which still works as well as the day I bought it, with a battery that still shows 98% capacity, and I intend to run it till the time it dies on me. Mandating modularity and the right to repair on the manufacturers is one thing, and lauding the repair culture in India is another, but choosing the right device, caring for it well and running it to the maximum extent possible are also crucial tools in reducing ewaste.
I started leaving my smartphone at home while going out of the house and I enjoy my outings so much more! Certainly repair is the best option as long as it is possible. I have been using my iPhone 11 Pro since 2020. Still going strong with no slowdown and battery is still good! Lasts the whole day. I thank Apple for this.
Repair of Electronic equipment is very a very delicate work and not many people can do it right. I had a chinese android phone worth $145 and it lasted a good 3 years untill it's display died so I decided to get it repaired with fake non-warranty display which costed me $15 but while fixing the display they damaged the charging IC and tried to charge me another $8 but I refused bcause by then I had realized that it's better to buy a new phone because there's no guarantee if they could fix my phone.
When I have a device "repaired" what happened really was that one component was replaced, usually the screen for almost the same price as a new phone. I'm not sure how that solves this issue bearing in mind all the extra packaging and all that
Countries like India have massive consumer market and always a target of large companies who sometimes exploit the existing policies for making money. It's good to see India adopting right to repair in policy level
It’s not about the culture of recycling, it’s about the cost of labour in a local economy. If there’s no money to be made nobody will recycle anything. China used to be a big recycler and nowadays the cost of labor went high and people would be doing other easier and more profitable jobs than dealing with junk
You’re making it seem like the concept of repairing is somehow unique to India. It may have lasted a while longer in India, but people everywhere repaired stuff until it was cheaper and easier to replace.
My phone is almost 5yrs old, it had 2 battery replacement, 1 screen replacement, 2 charging port replacement. And its working fine. Indian can fix/repair anything.
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Your comment implies that. Plus, you may know that 'south delhi crowd' is a slur commonly used to brush people into one political ideology, world view, lifestyle etc.
My old iPhone 5S (purchased Jan 2016) was working perfectly fine. I really had no complaints with it, and did not care enough about better specs to buy a new phone. The only reason I HAD to buy a new phone in 2021 was that Apple would no longer support any OS updates and my iPhone 5S would not run any new apps, or even newer versions of already existing apps (like WhatsApp, Uber, Outlook), many of which were essential.
Repair cost from company's authorized store are very high. For example, my Pixel 4a screen broke last year, and it cost me 10k from an authorized repair store for screen and back cover replacement. At times, parts are not available in the local market, which forces the consumer to go to authorized stores where are charges are way higher. But I should also mention that repair store also changed my battery for free.
This is strange interpretation of what is happening. This isn't some crusade to minimise ewaste but selling used gadgets. If there was no profit, no one would be doing this.
Hey Robert! Yes, obviously it is important to also make money with that to provide people with jobs and to have an incentive. But overall, it is also in the spirit of more sustainability and reducing e-waste.
@@DWPlanetA DW you are 100% wrong, the ewaste recyling as portrayed by you is fantasy. It is great to reuse electronics however either DW is a PR company paid to spin the story or the reporters are naive. These companies are not operating to reduce ewaste but to make money
I repaired my I phone-7 3 yrs ago with cheap display over brand display only in 1/6th value and it's still working without any warranty...it save me aprox 500 dollars minimum on buying new or replace display
i'd like cost to own and average lifespan as mandatory on all vehicles and houses. the average annual sum of costs that will be incurred for stuff like repairs, maintenance, gas, and such. and if the property is properly maintained how long it is likely to last. before it will need replaced
India really has some best repair people, idk what to call them haha, I had my new Dell laptop run into a serious prblm and when i took it straight to the company they said to replace the motherboard for 15,000 bucks, my dad took it to an experienced repairman and he literally replaced a part for 1200 bucks and my laptop has never ran into a prblm since.
There are 3 points to the failure argument from the engineering side. This is to show, to my limited abilities, the backend that is being leveraged to create the new rather than repair phenomenon. First, the complexity of failure, Failure has so many dimensions. Some of the failures are not in the electronics but in the thermal glue or the joint plastics that hold them. Their OEM makes them via injection molding or any other specific large volume manufacturing. These parts cost pennies to replace or repair. Rubber seal, broken wire, broken structures in general, corroded base. Second, the manufacturing side, all the devices are cheap, because of the rapid manufacturing process that produces them. It's a multiple moulding, with cnc machining in between. This drastically reduces material consumption and lead time for the manufacturers. This creates the issues with the repairing, because the objective was minimum material usage, hence lower redundancy. That leads to the assembly side of things. The assembly process deals with the products which are an extension of the previous manufacturing process. so, minimum down time, less parts to assemble, higher turnout rate, lower price. And how do you create less number of parts with materials which are weaker and lighter than metal, snap/force/thermal fit and interlocking joints with a hard outer case, to create a module. This is much easier to handle with automated assembly processes. To put things in context, 999/1000 pcbs around you, were put together by machines, the human was involved only in that one low volume manufacturing. Third aspect, look at the majority of the engineers, they come from electrical electronics and software backgrounds. These fields are well known for mass manufacturing and Extreme miniaturisation( micro to nano). So the attitude of replacing rather than repair is extremely prevalent. You just can't fix something that small and especially if it's a system of such small things. There is nothing wrong with the attitude. But when you are in an ecosystem where everyone is coming in with this attitude, things evolve. The attitude which is absolutely justified for micro and mass scale manufacturing. Slowly gets pushed to macro and mass scale manufacturing. Not that someone decided, it just gradually and naturally happened over decades. So here we are. Can the design be done which is easy to repair? Yes, up to a point. Because engineers love to remove the cause of the failure altogether rather than making it repairable. If things don't break, no need to repair. And if you can remove the problem altogether, why not remove it for all the newer devices. And the cycle goes on and we make better stuff. So i hope it gives you an about the complexity of the engineering side of things, on which the whole business side stands. Just a disclaimer, this is a view from the mechanical engineering side of things, that still leaves behind the complexity of electronics and software development, quality control, supply chain side of things. Welcome to the crazy world of manufacturing
Remember once helogen bulb was made that will not be dumped till 20 years or more but businesses argued and changed it forcibly to last it only for several ours so that they can run their businesses fluently that's the real truth behind all the products in all categories that needs to be changed
Don't think so it's entirely but to some extend, as companies are marketing them that you must upgrade and seemingly difficult to repair and feels like the companies are abusing it under the name of protection of IP by making repairs costly (5000% wow)
The marketing team studies human psychology and make ads that deliberately tempt consumers... So manufacturers share responsibility as well... Most humans are weak minded and give in to temptation
I think that's part of the problem. Companies deliberately slowing phones with each updates or even not deliberate, they don't work on fixing it. Part of it is cheaper phones doesn't have much profit margin to R&D on it so it become obsolete quickly on software side. I have a Realme 3 pro which is 4 year old and it runs slower than my grandma on chair. Tho it has every thing that is required to still run , snapdragon 710, 64 gigs storage, 4gb ram. I have even removed all the possible bloatware from it using ADB but it still runs too slow. I downgraded it to Android 10 from 11 and it became way fast but I lost some useful feature which I couldn't live without. And it's not like I am some power user. I require it for basic tasks, calls, videos, payments and all but it still couldn't do it without lagging. I was tired at this point and now waiting for a good new phone.
As someone who grows up getting second hand devices from my older siblings i became the kind of guy to say "if it can be fixed and its cheap im fixing that shit"
What do you do when your smartphone breaks - replace or repair? And why?
Please look up "Louis Rossmann".
if it's not old enough, repair. otherwise, replace
Depends on how it breaks-if it’s the screen-repair! If it’s anything internal-replace! Living in North America we pay too much for cellphones already to not expect a perfect working phone tbh. If we paid less to begin with and repairs were more common and actually done right I think people would be more into repairs!!! Buying used phones here is already considered a huge risk.
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For your next phone you might consider to apply the screen protector and invest for a good case😅
I’ve had my iPhone 6s for 4 years! And people make fun of me constantly. My phone will not hold an update. It’s Apple that is forcing me to buy NEW. I would love to keep my current phone.
@@itry2understand800 that’s honestly my worry too! Idc about anything else that comes with the new iOS just the security updates. I need a new screen honestly. Gone through a few glass screen protectors now, I hate ordering new ones online, can’t find them anywhere in store anymore for this size. I LOVE having a button still. I can’t imagine not having a physical button, just a touch screen. I plan on keeping this phone as long as I can!! But it’s so frustrating and getting more full by the day I swear. Who can really afford the iCloud prices either?? Such a ripoff!! Smh.
@@itry2understand800 my battery is just starting to go lol won’t charge to 100% all the time anymore, mostly just 99% ugh.
@@itry2understand800i applaud you! repairability is apples exact problem. i got an iphone gifted and take good care od it, but my next phone will be easily repairable. a fairphone most likely. i hope it will be available in the US soon
I used redmi note 4 for six years, still working fine.
Don't Follow their Advice ..... Follow your inner guidance
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Lol WHites Praising India. 😂 It's a very Rare Thing
@@Manish_254 Heeey... I'm not white! I'm speckled! 😆😂 It's hard to see my freckles in the picture... I'm honestly a huge fan of India~ I've loved Bollywood and Tollywood since university. I'm even trying to learn Hindi and Telugu. It's so hard! I love Japan for saving my life~ And I love India for her unique culture, lovely people, and fantastic music! If I could tan? I would... I can't help being born with Irish skin. But I get it. I completely understand where you're coming from and I'm glad you get a kick out of it~ I'm on Team Humanity! I don't care what country it is, if they're making the world better? I love them!
You are saying u are not white but u are Irish born 😅@@ariadgaia5932
@@ariadgaia5932 amazing
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India is a land of Reduce/Repair/Reuse/Reycle/Resale/Redistribute/Repurpose, we not only just recycle or repair we tend to use less resource, keep reusing stuffs, redistribute them to other family members, maids, Repurpose them to something else, resale them(sometimes to 3rd or 4th level of users). And we do it with literally everything starting from cars and motorcycles to house, furniture, to electronics to clothes to plastic bottles. It's a national level OCD and I am proud of it(because I have that RE-OCD even more than the average). The only thing we do need focus is when it comes to food, we waste a lot of food.
Yes
thry show dirty place to defame India dude open ur mind
But nowdays many bad/showoff/दुष्ट people(पृथ्वी पर भार व्यक्ति), due to having increased salaries are just throwing away plastic, 2-3 year old products, clothes, smartphones, home items into the environment instead of repairing or reusing or repurposing them.
Yes , when my father bought a new phone, he gave the old one to my sister for college, when my sister bought a new phone than the old phone was sold to a carpenter who had visited our house for some repairs
@@itsjustpersonalizedviews its as true as India being the 5th largest GDP. The first step of solving an issue is acceptance, my friend.
Louis Rossmanns.... Lots of them. The right to repair movement is 🔥 and the EU is fighting on the people's side ❤
India proves right to repair is working. What LR is complaining about is he cant buy spare parts for cheap so he can make a profit.
@@robertlee6338 it's a big problem everywhere. If not for knockoff Chinese parts, many repairs would be impractical. If original parts are available it benefits everyone Except the company so that's part of the fight. Also, I've been following LR since long and he's been advocating for lot more than just cheap parts.
@@robertlee6338 I guess his commentary went over your head!? The biggest problem is serialisation and inability to buy parts in favour of assemblies.
@@Quarky_ No it didnt go over my head, all parts are available, it is cost that you are complaining about
@@robertlee6338 ngl it did go over ur head. Example. Apple's soldered SSDs, touchbar, rivet keyboards. Serialising things like displays, batteries. Many other manufacturers copying the same stuff. It's made to immediately go to E waste even if its just a simple resistor defect.
Got my screen repaired for 25$ in India. Costs about one fourth of what it would have costed me in US.
Reddy Anna you're Indian only ra.
@@shravan7623 NRI ane concept undhi tammudu
There is something called PPP.
@@D402S PPP doesn't really apply to this scenario. My phone costs me the same in India (~15000Rs) and elsewhere (~200$). The difference now is how much it costs to repair (2000Rs vs 100$).
@@D402S But Every indian can afford 25$ , So Our Economic model is better even if you compare in GDP PPP. As we have more options in every aspect
I've never used a phone for less than 9 years. Never felt like I was lagging behind technologically.
From my perspective, today's consumers are committing an ecological crime when they throw away a device they've used for an year or so.
We don't throw away, we sell in second hand market
So you have just have/had 2 phones?
@@TheBooban that's not true. You don't need the last OS for apps. Most apps require android 5.0 (2014) or 6.0 (2015). So you could buy a phone on 2010 and still get android 5 or 6, so that's an excuse. I don't say you must have a phone for 10 years, but 5 is a good number.
I have my Poco F2 Pro 4 years (from 2020) and I have android 12. So I can hold it for at least 2 or 3 more years and still be able to use 99% of apps.
@@TheBooban One can easily use a mobile device for 5+years. The biggest concern would be 4G 5G 6G upgrades but for an avg user its not an issue. I am still using an 4G device without any issues except when my friends show off their 5G devices.
@@Anonymous-8080 Yep
I wish the United States cared about the right to repair as India does.
Somehow being wasteful is considered opulence
U don't have them?
@@iscifion7122the repair cost is so high people would rather get a new 1
What how is it possible that new is considered cheap instead of fixing ?? @@user-jn7bq8wh1e
@@user-jn7bq8wh1e Is it intentional?
Cuz Repairing is supposed to be a cheaper and sustainable option.
Remember no matter how Unfixable you make your product,
1) There's always a Chinese who'll make it cheaper 🗿
2) There's always an Indian who'll fix it. 🗿
Asians😎😎😎
💯 True
That covers almost 40% of the world population
Indians 😎😎
Yeah, but who's going to buy it? Africans? 😂😂
Let me just appreciate how beautifully this piece has been presented by DW. Detailed. Both from the ground reality to the highest authority and the lady is a charm . God bless.
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She's fabulous! Content is top notch and I definitely want to encourage and support the lady to keep doing these, she's fantastic at this!
@@TheSkystriderThat's very encouraging, thank you!
Before 2015 it was rare for phones not to have swappable batteries. Now it is rare not to have a permanant sealed battery.
The most common problem which causes people to buy a new phone is degraded battery capacity.
Manufacturers decided to sacrifice the environment with ewaste to make more money.
This should be against the law.
@@soccerchick1 The "lawmakers" (aka politicians) are owned by the corporations. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.
You can still change the battery in repairing stores
@@soccerchick1I think Europe is getting a new law for the batteries to be replaced. Also you can change it yourself, it's super easy. You just need a heat gun or even a hairdryer and a 15 euros aliexpress battery.
@@albertogog8567 I’m in Canada lmao were WAAAAAY behind. Even farther than the US tbh. We pay the most for phones out of anyone in the world smh. You have to order any part online if you can get it here and the shipping ALWAYS cost more than the part itself. We have jump+ and shops like that to fix some problems like screens but that’s about it. Our government does not care about our cost of living tbh.
Can we build a system where electronics manufacturers have to catalog the repair cost of each of the component in the product and the total cost of the components is not allowed to exceed 120% (arbitrary number) of the retail price of the full product.
This should in theory, prevent manufacturers from having excessive markups on the spare parts.
But they are already selling products at low price. For eg the profit from selling 40+ Lakshmi fortuner is 50k or something because GST and road tax is around 18 lakhs so companies make profit using repairs that is why they don't want people to repair or provide parts it is govt that make customers life sh*t
The price at which you are getting these phones are not their MRP
It will be harder. Assembling an entire phone can be done by an unskilled labour. On the other hand, disassembling a phone, finding fault, correcting the fault, and reassembling the phone requires skilled labour, which is costlier than unskilled labour.
Disclosed manufacturing price or cost Its breaches of contract between brand and part manufacturers/vendors ..so no one ready for this legal risk.
Yes, except no one will ever follow such a rigid system for a variety of reasons.
Companies are forcing us to buy new products by not giving updates, making it laggy, reducing battery life, degrading camera, making its spare parts unavailable..all these tempts me to buy a new phone else i would happily use my phone atleast 5 years. Presently my average is just three years.
It's the apps making phones laggy. But also yes Android does need to do better to prevent bad apps from ruining the experience.
@@FlabbyTabbybatteries needs to be changed every few years.
@@FlabbyTabbyI've been using Android my entire life. Apart from the system apps that I haven't figured a way to uninstall I have uninstalled all the trash apps. It works just fine. I have no games on my phone. Only three main social media apps, and a couple of other apps. My main concern while having a phone is delay, hanging, storage space. The phone I have at present solves all these. So unless it starts to give me headaches I'm planning to keep this one.
In Tokyo Olympics 2020, Japan made all of the event medals by recycling e-waste. Just an amazing way of how waste can be literally converted to Gold!!!
Yes it is good but it happens at a small scale but we have to do it on a large scale.
Olympic medals are no made of gold, just coating
Recycling most things often needs a great amount of energy and effort which often has a backdoor carbon footprint.
The best way to reduce e waste is to use devices for proper life cycle and only upg after a decent period.
They also made beds of recycled cardboards for everyone, which were able to take weight of atleast 2 people.
Indians like to save and that is not a bad thing that is not "cheap" that is efficient.
India has had repair and upcycling as part of it's culture for generations. Upon realising the state of consumer electronics, as a step to help, I switched to second hand. My two phones, bluetooth speaker, earbuds, monitor and even wired earphones are all second-hand. And I'll make them long last. Thank you for bringing super-important topics like these which fly under the radar!
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Recently bought second hand laptop,
Half the price of new one, just a year old
10:52 I'm an American and I have to disagree that we're not far behind. I think public opinion in the US is equally in favor of right to repair as it is in the EU, but legislation is much further behind.
The labor cost is astronomical. In 2017, I want to replace my broken laptop screen, the labor cost was $50 on top of screen cost of $45. I watched a DIY YT video and did it myself.
@souravjaiswal-jr4bj in my experience when getting things repaired they tend to list most of the cost as labor costs, regardless of whether they really are. I had my clarinet repaired recently, there was at the time a shortage of the particular piece I needed fixed, and eventually the repair shop, which specializes in repairs not making parts, had to make their own. But they still listed the part as costing next to nothing and all the cost being labor (it was a fair price in total, just the breakdown was wonky).
U haven't seen the scale of e waste from USA and Australia its astronomi ,repair culture isnt even in the mindset for most ,most of the e waste is dumped in developing countries by ships in name of recycling thus polluting whole world not just america
@@souravjaiswal-jr4bj same as anything else think of a mechanic lol.
Right to repair kinda goes against big corp capitalism.
So happy to see someone covering this problem; the throwaway culture has started to penetrate Indian society which is going to be a big problem.
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My father used his smart phone for 5 years...
After 3 the battery went bad...
He found a shop in my hometown (Mumbai) that replaces only the battery for 20$ and he extended its life by another 2.5 yrs..
He xhanged the battery 3x in that period before the phone died...
Now manufacturers seal the battery in so theres no scope for such knack
We all have changes battery. I had a keypad Samsung in 2013 which was my first phone then mom got me a smartphone in 2015 and I had old one too but one day I was walking on road when phone slipped my hand, the back cover opened and battery went into the drain & you know in India's drain, what's gone is gone. So, I went on nearby shop, bought a Panasonic battery, it fit that model but it was thicker so the back cover won't close properly so I basically closed it with rubber😄. I last checked it in 2020 and it was still working although now it is somewhere in my house and I can't find it (I only have one sim since lockdown that's why I wasn't using two phones).
Our country has a culture of extreme usage of every product 😎👏😎
Shame u cant wipe the tutti 💩from ur streets 🤣
@@gadidakodaka So Delhi is in Pakistan? 🤯 😂
@@userre85it's called not dumping e waste and being resourceful. Where do you think your phone goes?
@@userre85 It's called not being wasteful. Indians aren't mindless consumers. We buy only what's necessary and maximize their utility, even beyond their original purpose.
@@gadidakodaka ah yes only Pakistan can have such a thing (I'm being sarcastic btw). FYI that culture is bigger in India that's why the documentary is on India. You're a fool if you think such a thing is limited to pakistan
Amazing piece of Journalism. This was so needed in India and around the world
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The 12k cost is for replacing the screen they are not really repairing, repairing that display will be much cheaper might be around 20$ depends on vendor for your's model in which only the external glass will separated from the screen and new glass will be installed your display will still be original and you will face no issues after that if it is done correctly. I worked in the field and it was fun to work on phones, screen repair is very common most of technician can do that easily, best part about the job is when someone had problem in the motherboard and has shown phone to multiple shops and have no hopes of getting it repaired and then if we are able to fix that thing, the smile on customers face that's the biggest satisfaction
Yeah, most of repair center are just changing spare, not really repairing smh
@@putraduha3176 yup they just replace whole part they don't do any repairing, even if one capacitor is shorted they will repair whole motherboard which is not required and you will loose all your data
Hi Abhishek, where can i get the original spare? I own a k 20 pro and it's working fine only back glass is broken.
@@gouravfromuk service center can provide you 100% original back glass, but you should go in your nearest mobile market and check the quality and price of their glass, they probably have copy but they are also good quality it's upto you, if you wan't to pay extra premium for some quality, back glass doesn't create any difference in actual working
Xiaomi centre....or if you live in big city you can go to local repairing shop@@gouravfromuk
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I love how Indian people (still) have the skills available so widely distributed in their country to repair ANYTHING.
When I was in India I saw a person getting their umbrella repaired on the street after it broke after a heavy rain in August. I would have thrown my umbrella away. It really made me think of how wasteful I lived. Unfortunately, in my home country I wouldn't even know where to go with a broken umbrella. People suggest me always to "just throw it away".
it won't have any useful effect. Taylor Swift's emissions are way higher than millions combined. don't worry about planet. we'll be long gone. ig that's one advantage of being a mortal.
Would you be interested in knowing there are people who repair chappal/sandals or basically footwear on the streets. When I was a child my parents bought me a new one only if the old was soo worn out. I still do the same.
We need a place like this in America.
You need shari'a, hope ilhan omar gives it to you sooner.
@@y.u.so.who said we have shari a It's hindu majority country not muslim
@@y.u.so. Sharia is definitely the worst thing that can happen to the US. Even crony capitalism is better.
The corporations will burn it down, or stop giving "donations" to the government. They only thing you can do in America is what the corporations want, because they are the real rulers of America.
No we do not need any place like any part of India in the US, no no no!
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It's not like corporations who are stealing intellectual property are waiting for the repair bill to pass to do it
In China, there are a biggest market of Refurbished Mobile & these are export to Africa & rest of the country.
India have the opportunities to get the market.
Now need skilled Labour as well as eco collection process of set collection.
This is not just exclusive to Delhi i live in Goa, and if you have anything that's broken there's always someone who knows how to fix it at any market with equipment they found in the kitchen
Recognise the beautiful Asian repair shops going against western rich lobbyists. In Thailand I found drum vats of printer ink connected to suction pipes directly on to the printer cartridges, even Philippine’s when I travelled had the same repair shop for everything. The more I grow up the more I understand western greed hiding behind law making governments.
1:38 They're quoting excessive sums b/c she talks and looks like an NRI and is running around with a crew working for a western media outlet lol
Vendors in India will absolutely stiff you if they think you're not a local.
I have had my MI phone from 2019 and still working great, i used to switch phone yearly before but now i am very proud to be using same phone for 5 years and gonna drag one more year, and buy second hand phone after. I am proud because i know the things about the e-waste and climate, if we want more people to have such mindset, right education and messege like this should be promoted so people are proud to use things for years instead of proud to be buying the most expensive and latest gadget available in market (which all company wants you to do).
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I study in Germany. In theory we learn a lot about life cycle assessment and reparing, etc.
But very rarely something is repaired here.
And it's disappointing.
Hire some people from india and open a
Company in Germany
We have had a repair and reuse culture by default in Indian families.
This culture of buying every two years was new to me as I grew up.
So developing countries in general are proactive in that regard I think, UNLESS consumer behavior is being forcefully manipulated by giants like Google and Apple by bringing annual features and deeming their older models incompetent.
This should be reigned in and a Irrepairabikity tax should be imposed on products that are low on reoairability.
Quite easy to replace screen tbh, only issue is getting good quality display. Often parts are sold as genuine/original yet they obviously are way worse.
The way they'r manufactured, you need specialized tools and gadgets to remove old screen and fix the new one in its place
Personally i find cheaper phones to be more repairable, i for example have already replaced the battery and the charger PCB for my Redmi phone.
This... I've heard people complain about heating problems in redmi, some of my family members did have that issue. But I've been using redmi my whole life and it's okay so far. Meets my needs. I'm happy so.
Good that India also tries to tackle this issue. But more impactful are the EUs steps for right to repair as no company can deny the European market. You can see now that this legislation will cascade down to other countries to adopt those norms as well. Happy to see all of these developments.
Yeah E.U needs to keep punishing these big tech companies.
That's why they said, Europe + some months is the timing or deadline.
Yes, he said EU+6 months, EU can take those steps as they have a rich consumer market, so companies will have to follow them for sure
Its the companies that are making repair difficult and also not providing spare parts to third party
my grandparents still use their old ass nokia from 2003 that's pretty crazy compared to newer android phones that will literally break down after 3 years
Why did you specify android? Are you an iSheep?
As if icrap is better
Get breakdown in 3-4 years
Quality is degraded price increased what the cuck you would do with titanium
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The reporter could have found a better model of her phone at cheaper price in these same market. In India returning products when replacing with new is very common. And hence there is a huge market of selling second products too. Yes mobile phones are sort of very small number but larger appliances, you can buy the best brands at less than half the price any day.
Only wise doing that if ownership is properly transferred. You don't know who will end up having that phone and use it how. It shouldn't link back to you if they do anything illegal using the phone
While some spare parts are horrendously marked up, this misses the fact that providing a whole spare parts supply chain is far from free, volumes a lower, storage times are longer, and more.
And this doesn’t include the labour costs associated with dismantling, diagnosing and reassembling which is typically a very manual process compared to the highly automated processes of initial assembly
The repairability should be a design consideration to make the manual process smoother. Most companies actually try to discourage this by unnecessarily complicating the design.
I agree with you on the logistics issue of spare parts though
I agree on one part that the supply chain issue is there. But if you document the repair process, then I'm sure there is an equivalent unbranded product in the chinese market that is going to be in the supply chain.
And for the reparibility, phones were fine with metal backs and glue only for the display where the rest of the parts can be removed. And yet they stayed the same weight as phones made now. I mean there is a way to make products look beautiful even with visible screws
these markets wouldn't thrive without people unnecessarily throwing away things that could be repaired
@@sidarthg2477 chinese parts only work for parts that are easily reverse engineered. No company would be prepared to give up sensitive IP so another company can make a spare part without rigorous licensing deals in place. And this actually the current state of affairs. Outside samsung, most major players phones are contract manufactured (in china).
Most phones also offer ingress protection that wasn’t available with the old screwed on metal backs (and while still possible would increase costs significantly. Plus using single/limited cycle micro connectors etc are all there to save costs and make the phones less serviceable
8:05 oh my gowd worlds least repair friendly company on right to repair portal 🍎 🤯
unsurprisingly the only thing they have on the portal is some links to their official device support websites. No direct links to manuals or part details.
As of now, that portal is mostly useless. Will be interesting to see how government acts in near future.
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Excellently made video. There is so much work and documentation to be done here in India that your work is literally worth gold. We need more video documenting of the way things work here because it is extremely important for people to know.
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appreciate the patience of reporter in doing this story. I am sure she has to go on a learning curve for this
A decade ago, I could have easily repaired most of my electronics with ease and at low cost. Now its difficult to find a store with right knowledge/skills and spare parts. Even if you do find one, its expensive.
Everything has to have a gd computer inside of it now so you’re unable to fix it yourself. Not just a simple fix.
A guy who fixes the mobile phone with a lighter 😂😂😂
Hey, as long as it works okay.
Heating loosens the gum attaching the screen.
flame is flame
It is one of the techniques to seal and wiggle tightly wound things
It is called jugaad.
Who’s upgrading from the iPhone 14 Pro Max to the iPhone 15 Pro Max 🙌
People literally do this, which is crazy!
Motorola toyed with the idea of modular mobiles, I wonder why it has not manifested…it’s such a good idea to improve longevity of devices while upgrading functionality and reducing e-waste.
Amazing reporter btw! She speaks so clearly 👍
Google created a project named ARA, a modular smartphone eventually they dropped it in its final stage.
Loved this episode!! Very informative and shows India in good light for a change!
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I hope one day there will be a company producing cellphones that is reliable like Toyota cars.
You can sell your broken phone to repair shops. They can use functional parts for other customers.
Making easily repairable devices also has an associated cost. The fairphone is a good example of this, it is bigger/bulkier, heavier and more expensive than equivalent performance models from other manufacturers.
Making electronics compact and “cheap” (automated) to assemble often uses techniques that are inherently difficult to repair.
The fairer option of anything is always more expensive! I think I'm going to buy a Fairphone once my old one stops working - I like that they even have on their site that "the most ecological/fair phone you can have is the one you already own" (paraphrased)
@@hrani not always, but in consumer electronics it is a good rule of thumb. There is definitely a market out there, but the fact is the majority of consumers are either quite cost sensitive, or aesthetics/marketing sensitive
I don't see how repairable makes things always more bulky.
FairPhone is a bad example because
1. They only have access to limited parts they can build with
2. Simply including a fair wage makes it "expensive" (or, in other words: As cheap as can be without exploiting)
An easily repairable device is something that has easily available spare parts and instruction manuals on replacement steps. That is exactly what companies are avoiding by making special custom parts and tools AND not making them available to the public. It has nothing to do with being modular or open.
@@jurgennicht4626 I would assume there's always a very slight weight increase when using less delicate components and shapes, and planning for easy access has an effect on the layout of things... For example, eight tiny screws holding parts in housings and their fixings probably take up more weight and space than a hair thin layer of epoxy holding down a piece that everything else is under!
Making it more bulky because of making it more durable is probably also a design choice: they know people who want it won't mind too much.
Phone screen repair costs are really expensive especially iPhone display that can cost upto rs30k in India
I've had my note 10 + refurbished twice since I bought it new in 2019. Still works flawlessly. And a new battery and screen every two years. 300$ and Samsung does it themselves
I've heard many people say 2019 was the peak of samsung
I only own recycled phones and refurbished laptops - they are functioning ok after the repair
I'm using my phone since 2019 same phone never got in trouble with this piece, just got some new cover and screen guard again and agian when broken but nothing anything else , my phone gives me every service i require what new phones give and I don't see a requirement of buying a new phone each year and it's not a backwards thing it's beautiful to recycle ♻️
My first PC was an assembled one, and I ran it as long as I could with RAM and video card upgrades. Sadly, there came a time to upgrade the CPU, but the new ones weren’t backward-compatible with the RAM and video card, so the idea of modularity went right out the window.
Later, I owned a Nokia 3310 which was built like a tank and lasted me 5 years before I was forced to buy myself a smartphone to go the digital path that India was marching on.
It took three tries with Samsung before I realised that the security and linearity of Apple software (not hardware, mind you) is what made for much longer lasting phones. Now, I’ve owned an iPhone 11 for the last 4 (5?) years which still works as well as the day I bought it, with a battery that still shows 98% capacity, and I intend to run it till the time it dies on me.
Mandating modularity and the right to repair on the manufacturers is one thing, and lauding the repair culture in India is another, but choosing the right device, caring for it well and running it to the maximum extent possible are also crucial tools in reducing ewaste.
I’m using my XR for 5 years now. It’s really cheap to get spare parts. And I’m definitely holding it for a few more years.
Indian ENGINEERS , Doctors, repair technician come from highly compitative 1.4 billion people nation,..so huge merit to them
I started leaving my smartphone at home while going out of the house and I enjoy my outings so much more!
Certainly repair is the best option as long as it is possible. I have been using my iPhone 11 Pro since 2020. Still going strong with no slowdown and battery is still good! Lasts the whole day. I thank Apple for this.
My iPhone 11 is five years old and still a flagship imo. And its actually pretty repairable. Love it
Must implement the Right to Repair
Repair of Electronic equipment is very a very delicate work and not many people can do it right. I had a chinese android phone worth $145 and it lasted a good 3 years untill it's display died so I decided to get it repaired with fake non-warranty display which costed me $15 but while fixing the display they damaged the charging IC and tried to charge me another $8 but I refused bcause by then I had realized that it's better to buy a new phone because there's no guarantee if they could fix my phone.
When I have a device "repaired" what happened really was that one component was replaced, usually the screen for almost the same price as a new phone. I'm not sure how that solves this issue bearing in mind all the extra packaging and all that
Countries like India have massive consumer market and always a target of large companies who sometimes exploit the existing policies for making money. It's good to see India adopting right to repair in policy level
I’ve got a iPhone 7. Had it forever and didn’t buy new. It’s not as fast or sleek but it does what I need it to do.
It’s not about the culture of recycling, it’s about the cost of labour in a local economy. If there’s no money to be made nobody will recycle anything. China used to be a big recycler and nowadays the cost of labor went high and people would be doing other easier and more profitable jobs than dealing with junk
Underrated documentation, great work
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You’re making it seem like the concept of repairing is somehow unique to India. It may have lasted a while longer in India, but people everywhere repaired stuff until it was cheaper and easier to replace.
yesterday i got my philips speaker repaired for 5 USD in local market, now they work same as new one.
My phone is almost 5yrs old, it had 2 battery replacement, 1 screen replacement, 2 charging port replacement.
And its working fine.
Indian can fix/repair anything.
Please look up "Louis Rossmann".
I can watch mr. Rossmann work for hours on end. True mastery of a craft in action. If you don't know him already (you probably do) NorthridgeFix is a similar TH-cam channel and he is also very good at what he does. He's worth checking out too
the host, the editing, the topic, the vibe, loving everything about this style of content
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Why do DW, France24, BBC journalists all looks like south delhi crowd?
Because they are
Then how would they spread their woke agendas in India if they don't hire journalist from there!!!!
How does it matter as long as she's good at what she's doing?
It doesn’t. Who said it does?
Your comment implies that. Plus, you may know that 'south delhi crowd' is a slur commonly used to brush people into one political ideology, world view, lifestyle etc.
This is excellent journalism, very well done !
Kinda motovated to keep stuff now
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These is a documentary of Shenzen market people should watch that
My old iPhone 5S (purchased Jan 2016) was working perfectly fine. I really had no complaints with it, and did not care enough about better specs to buy a new phone. The only reason I HAD to buy a new phone in 2021 was that Apple would no longer support any OS updates and my iPhone 5S would not run any new apps, or even newer versions of already existing apps (like WhatsApp, Uber, Outlook), many of which were essential.
I'm still using my 6 year old smartphone.😅
Those 6 year old smartphones are quite cheap to buy second hand nowadays and they still run most apps like a brand new one
Repair cost from company's authorized store are very high. For example, my Pixel 4a screen broke last year, and it cost me 10k from an authorized repair store for screen and back cover replacement. At times, parts are not available in the local market, which forces the consumer to go to authorized stores where are charges are way higher. But I should also mention that repair store also changed my battery for free.
This is strange interpretation of what is happening. This isn't some crusade to minimise ewaste but selling used gadgets.
If there was no profit, no one would be doing this.
Hey Robert! Yes, obviously it is important to also make money with that to provide people with jobs and to have an incentive. But overall, it is also in the spirit of more sustainability and reducing e-waste.
@@DWPlanetA DW you are 100% wrong, the ewaste recyling as portrayed by you is fantasy.
It is great to reuse electronics however either DW is a PR company paid to spin the story or the reporters are naive.
These companies are not operating to reduce ewaste but to make money
Used gadgets save a lot of money, a 10 year old i5 thinkpad destroys the horrid EMMC celeron rubbish whilst being cheaper too.
I repaired my I phone-7 3 yrs ago with cheap display over brand display only in 1/6th value and it's still working without any warranty...it save me aprox 500 dollars minimum on buying new or replace display
Now if only Apple would be okay with such an idea
“I just watched and learned”. LOVE IT
Don't go looking nice if you want best price
reparability is what allowed my old iPhone SE to live for 7 years straight, its display and battery costed me just 20-25$ to fix here.
i want that caddy people at 12:07 are playing with, to uprade my old laptop for ssd.
They actually sell a frame for that you can remove your hdd and use a ssd in that frame
@@salempasangasp yah that was what i was referring to. i was looking for one and this video popped up next minute
7:15 Yes " Right To Repair " Finally in India (BHARAT) too Yess!!!
i'd like cost to own and average lifespan as mandatory on all vehicles and houses. the average annual sum of costs that will be incurred for stuff like repairs, maintenance, gas, and such. and if the property is properly maintained how long it is likely to last. before it will need replaced
Waste management should be part of the main agenda in international climate and pollution talks to ensure a global cooperation in policy.
Who cares about the climate its all just a hoax made by the renewable industry.
~Said every conservative ever
Excellent stuff shown
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India really has some best repair people, idk what to call them haha, I had my new Dell laptop run into a serious prblm and when i took it straight to the company they said to replace the motherboard for 15,000 bucks, my dad took it to an experienced repairman and he literally replaced a part for 1200 bucks and my laptop has never ran into a prblm since.
There are 3 points to the failure argument from the engineering side. This is to show, to my limited abilities, the backend that is being leveraged to create the new rather than repair phenomenon.
First, the complexity of failure, Failure has so many dimensions. Some of the failures are not in the electronics but in the thermal glue or the joint plastics that hold them. Their OEM makes them via injection molding or any other specific large volume manufacturing. These parts cost pennies to replace or repair. Rubber seal, broken wire, broken structures in general, corroded base.
Second, the manufacturing side, all the devices are cheap, because of the rapid manufacturing process that produces them. It's a multiple moulding, with cnc machining in between. This drastically reduces material consumption and lead time for the manufacturers. This creates the issues with the repairing, because the objective was minimum material usage, hence lower redundancy. That leads to the assembly side of things. The assembly process deals with the products which are an extension of the previous manufacturing process. so, minimum down time, less parts to assemble, higher turnout rate, lower price.
And how do you create less number of parts with materials which are weaker and lighter than metal, snap/force/thermal fit and interlocking joints with a hard outer case, to create a module. This is much easier to handle with automated assembly processes. To put things in context, 999/1000 pcbs around you, were put together by machines, the human was involved only in that one low volume manufacturing.
Third aspect, look at the majority of the engineers, they come from electrical electronics and software backgrounds. These fields are well known for mass manufacturing and Extreme miniaturisation( micro to nano). So the attitude of replacing rather than repair is extremely prevalent. You just can't fix something that small and especially if it's a system of such small things. There is nothing wrong with the attitude. But when you are in an ecosystem where everyone is coming in with this attitude, things evolve. The attitude which is absolutely justified for micro and mass scale manufacturing. Slowly gets pushed to macro and mass scale manufacturing. Not that someone decided, it just gradually and naturally happened over decades.
So here we are. Can the design be done which is easy to repair? Yes, up to a point. Because engineers love to remove the cause of the failure altogether rather than making it repairable. If things don't break, no need to repair.
And if you can remove the problem altogether, why not remove it for all the newer devices.
And the cycle goes on and we make better stuff. So i hope it gives you an about the complexity of the engineering side of things, on which the whole business side stands.
Just a disclaimer, this is a view from the mechanical engineering side of things, that still leaves behind the complexity of electronics and software development, quality control, supply chain side of things.
Welcome to the crazy world of manufacturing
Hey there! Thanks for sharing your perspective of a engineer here 😊
Remember once helogen bulb was made that will not be dumped till 20 years or more but businesses argued and changed it forcibly to last it only for several ours so that they can run their businesses fluently that's the real truth behind all the products in all categories that needs to be changed
Ultimately the consumer is responsible for this waste. Just because there's a new model anything, it doesn't mean we need it.
Tell this to your girlfriend..mine understands... thankfully.
Don't think so it's entirely but to some extend, as companies are marketing them that you must upgrade and seemingly difficult to repair and feels like the companies are abusing it under the name of protection of IP by making repairs costly (5000% wow)
The marketing team studies human psychology and make ads that deliberately tempt consumers...
So manufacturers share responsibility as well...
Most humans are weak minded and give in to temptation
I think that's part of the problem. Companies deliberately slowing phones with each updates or even not deliberate, they don't work on fixing it. Part of it is cheaper phones doesn't have much profit margin to R&D on it so it become obsolete quickly on software side.
I have a Realme 3 pro which is 4 year old and it runs slower than my grandma on chair. Tho it has every thing that is required to still run , snapdragon 710, 64 gigs storage, 4gb ram. I have even removed all the possible bloatware from it using ADB but it still runs too slow.
I downgraded it to Android 10 from 11 and it became way fast but I lost some useful feature which I couldn't live without.
And it's not like I am some power user. I require it for basic tasks, calls, videos, payments and all but it still couldn't do it without lagging. I was tired at this point and now waiting for a good new phone.
As someone who grows up getting second hand devices from my older siblings i became the kind of guy to say "if it can be fixed and its cheap im fixing that shit"
From zips to chips let's fix 🤖
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@@aditirajagopal 🤖🙏
Good! I hope we return to more reliable and long lasting products, especially ones that can be easily reused/recycled.
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Got my ipad screen replaced in 2022 by a 3rd party. Still going strong with just 1 dead pixel. Worth it overall
I am using Samsung j7 for 8 years it's still running smooth why to waste money when you can do same things with older devices
Remember no matter how Unfixable you make your product,
1) There's always a Chinese who'll make it cheaper
2) There's always an Indian who'll fix it.