Agreed. This opening scene looks beautiful. But make no mistake. The runs in these areas and down in the desert are no picnic These videos are really good. And lots of input. Awesome. Have a great weekend . P.j. Carpinteria Calif
I believe that mostly the freight cars used in revenue cargo service have been scribbled up with spray enamel paint. Otherwise, the only locomotives that have been defaced are those laid up on tracks to be moved or simply lifted off the tracks and then scrapped.👌
It sure is nice to see freight cars without graffiti for a change. That's why I like these types of videos which also feature older motive power and rolling stock. Excellent video !
I'm so glad I did most of my Railfanning from the late 1960s to the mid 1980s when this was true and all the many great Fallen Flag roads and colors !! 👍
Boy oh boy, I remember those days and then slowly began seeing it all over them. It seems to me it got even worse after the company got rid of cabooses! Sure nice to look back and remember the days people had respect for others property.
Yes, times have changed for sure! What is funny is I am not so sure these same Grafitti artists would appreciate me or you tagging their car or house in the middle of the night.
@@charlessmileyvideos Like said I remember those days. Living next to the tracks (75-100ft away from tracks) I do remember those days well. MY grandmother would feed the engineers when they'd stop next to the house. Great memories
The laws only consider it a misdemeanor. Which is just a ticket. If they do $1,000 or more in some kind of damage then it's a felony and can be arrested.
It is great to see the trains back when, as others have commented, people had more respect. The days when railroads were more friendly to railfans being trackside! The advent of the aerosol paint can, combined with a lack of respect for what is not theirs, changed all of that forever. Those of us who are respectful and just want to see the trains are not as welcomed anymore. It is a shame!
What a film with great action of SP & SF, specially those sp trains with lumber loads , without a doubt those wood companies got their money worth shipping out all that wood all over eastern side of the US. What a time for the railroads when things was booming though the 90's.😌👏👏👏👌👍💫
Great video, loved the look of the clean rolling stock. Especially enjoyed the extra technical details that were narrating in describing the car features and camera and film quirks. Very informative. It was a great era to grow up in.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties I had a VW camper van that I used to take to the Tehachapi Loop and camp out. Unfortunately you can’t do that anymore.
Those dead end canyons were great quail and chucked hunting spots. But things change and the area is just no fun these days. I used to love the sounds of the trains in the distance while out on foot in the area.
Wow, cool stories! When you say things changed was it the Quail or access to hunting grounds with private property. These were the years you were there I am sure 1970-1988!
Absolutely splendid!! This is some of the nicest footage of trains on Tehachapi that I have ever seen. It captures some of the finest moments of both the Espee and the Santa Fe. The footage of the variety of freight cars, particularly all of the different types of boxcars that Espee rostered is just incredible. Job well done!!
Very well done. I appreciate the explanations about filming. As for grafitti, I hate it. It is not art. It's vandalism. I wonder how these so called artists would appreciate the same being done to their car!
I miss seeing those "Solid Cold" "Solid Gold" FGE cars. Would be cool to see retro painted freight cars, alike and along side the way NS has done the right thing on their locomotives for the fallen flags.
The difference between then and now. Deviance wasn’t as normalized as it is today. Neither was stupidity as common. Common sense was common. The New Hope and Ivyland railroad/McHugh Bros is a tourist short line in southeastern Pennsylvania. Steam trains and freight. Trackage was once a part of the Reading Railroad. Now serviced by the CSX and Northeastern Pennsylvania railroads.
Yes. Like removing their “artwork” with a toothbrush until their fingers are so numb, they would never pick up a rattle can for the rest of their lives.
Hilarious to see all the people complaining about graffiti and saying that the railroad should care. The railroad doesn't own the cars anymore. They don't even care about their own employees and they can't even stop people from breaking the containers and stealing. And you guys really think graffiti is a big problem. This is what's wrong with this country This exact type of mentality
@@jamesm6638 And there's always one like you to respond. Like I was fucking talking to you. Don't like what I have to say. Keep moving on. Until then, keep crying. What I said is true and has no false so eat it and enjoy it
At least the graffiti people have good grammar skills. That would be spelling skills for simpleton thinking... If you're commenting on here, who are you talking to?? Yourself? I'm talking to you, look at me when I'm speaking 😂
I miss the days when the only form of graffiti was a soapstone marking from "the Rambling Rose of Texas," or something similar. Not too noticeable when a train was flying past, unlike the multicolored offerings of today.
Yep, chalk drawings and hobo maps to safe places long forgotten means of communication. There is much more here on TH-cam about Hobo Chalk and signals!
I miss this era too. I have no interest in the modern "sanitized" (no pole lines, everything uniform, no large logos) look of railroading. Even the SP equipment looked clean and well cared for back then.
It is good to see a graffiti less train for once. Must be in a time when the railroad hired more police to patrol the rail yards. Wish those days would comeback.
Wow. I didn't know that railroads were running DPU locomotives back then. It surprised me to find 4 of them in the middle of the train. I guess running DPUs is no longer a new thing that railroads are doing these days.
I was working on a CB&Q that's a railroad , a fireman on the locomotive, then one day I saw a little baby crawling along the track a baby mind you. And I grabbed that baby, and I flung it into a nice pile of soft leaves. Me well I didn't make out so good. Fractured my leg. The baby was all right. Today that baby is president of Vons supermarket you think he ever took the trouble to thank me, no sir! Rich folks got short memories.
I luv graffiti on freight cars. Tehachapi Pass is my stomping ground and watch trains all along the route. From the Horseshoe curve in Caliente to the loop to Marcel, it’s all fantastic train watching. Graffiti is a type of art to me on rail cars and I find it interesting.
The railroads now have to spend money on painting over the ugly graffiti, which can run into the millions. Now to cover this needless expense, the railroads have to raise their rates to shippers which they pass on to us the consumer! It's going to us all money ! The graffiti vandals should go and paint their own houses.
Well, personally, I think that the Penn Central paint scheme is its own form of ugliness. That being said, maybe it’s different in the areas I live, but I’ve not seen graffiti on too many railroad cars. I’ve seen it a couple times, but not to a ridiculous degree. That being said from what I’ve looked at box cars I don’t think they are usually as colorful as some of the ones in this.
I wonder if anyone has estimated the labor and materials cost expended to paint graffitti (on both sides) of almost every rail car in north america in a 30 year time span.
The railroads should team up with law enforcement to identify which gang is painting. Then have them repaint the whole car by hand. Train watching is fun but not seeing the GARBAGE on the side of cars. Some of the young ones have No Respect that no RESPECT for personal property.
Thanks for posting this video! It's really nice to see a graffiti free train! I hate the ugly sight of that garbage! The railroads have to spend millions of dollars each year painting over that junk, which translates to higher freight rates for shippers and shippers passing on the cost to the consumers! The consumer in the end is going to be the loser! The worthless graffiti vandals don't have to pay! They should go and paint their OWN houses with those UGLY images!
Hi: I am Spaniard, European. Unfortunately we have not copied the good things of the USA but the bad things of the suburbs such as graffiti and loud and repetitive music. My greetings to the railway fans of your great country. Bests Regards.
I don't like to put graphiti all over my models. I fashion my operation after a time when I was a kid and you didn't see a mess all over the side of cars and locomotives. I also consider the re-sale value. Some people want to put their own stuff on the models and make it their own.
If law enforcement was hard and strict to those who commit crimes you won't have this problem! If it's kids who do this they are let go since they are juveniles. That's nonsense, the parents should be held liable! We cannot have a country where laws are violated! If you damage or destroy property, you are liable!!!
Funny Shock Title 😲 .. filmed and narrated in days of box car hobos, caboose and decency. Decades before graffiti, zombie alien druggie camps and container shipping.
My friend who works for the Belt Railroad of Chicago says that the scanners that read the ID codes on the cars CAN'T read it because those dam graffiti vandals! They paint over the reporting marks and tags on the cars with that ugly garbage! They should go and paint their own homes with that ugly, horrible trash!
Kids today have no respect and parents let them do whatever they want Should make it against the law and if they get caught Their parents will have to pay the fine or if they are old enough to work Then they should pay the fine
Love seeing unpainted cars why destroy some ones property. I really think it degrades a perfect layout. To put graffiti cars on such hard work . They destroy everything. Guess they don't know what canvas is. To trashy.
"more than 60 percent of North American freight cars are leased or owned by others - not by the railroads". Freightwaves. (few if any tankers are owned by a railroad). And even those freightcars owned by a railroad are usually out all over the country on other railways - they don't unload them and transfer the freight to another car at the end of their line. Also, you don't see too many actual freight cars anymore - most are flatbeds hauling containers. So I suppose the railways really don't care about the graffitti, as they either don't own the cars or can't control it without hiring massive security to patrol their yards. Security-wise, railroads are almost impossible to secure in any way at any time, even in wartime.
Gangs in California are the ones who started the graffiti on freight cars back in the late 90s. That unfortunately spreaded across the country. Goes to show the lack of respect of property today's kids have. Where are railroad cops when these vandals are doing their thing instead of fussing at railfans for being on or too close to the tracks?
The railroads can’t stop people from opening shipping containers and stealing or damaging the cargo. They’re not really worried about paint unless it covers the reporting marks. Also-unlike in today’s video-the railroads of today don’t own most of the cars. Leasing companies do. Why should the railroad care?
Railroads in the US don't prioritize or have enough resources to clean up the problem. Too bad they can't come up with some kind of "Anti Grafitti Paint" for the cars. The other issue is many cars go South of the Border so good luck once you are down there!
In Europe, both passenger and freight trains have graffiti on them. Its mainly East Asia where the trains are free from graffiti, probably due to the culture being centered around being civilized
"When Freight Trains Had No Grafitti" Really? That would be news to some of the lumber crayon artists of the mid 20th century like Herby, Midnight Rambler, John Easley, and Easy Honey plus hundreds of more boxcar taggers of a bygone era
Of course there's a _huge_ difference between the small and faint markings of hobos and car inspectors and the spray-painted eyesores on almost all cars since the 1980s. The former was culture and folklore, the latter is vandalism.
@@GrumpyOldRailroader "railroading when there wasn't as much graffiti, and when there was, it wasn't intrusive" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as a video title
It is so sad that such beautiful artwork gets covered up by such ugly graffiti. It is the same now with our highways and buildings all in the name of expression.
I love to see freight cars unscribbled. The scribblings painted with enamel paint on the freight cars are an eye-irritating eyesore that makes know the reason that railroad owners and operators do not want the general public on the railroad grounds, and I would not give them one single challenge.
I lived next to an RR. I think the RR should primer the car white, paint and mark the top half, and let the kids finish the bottom! If ya can't beat 'em join em. There's some pretty amazing artwork out there that's actually signed. Make a good picture book (censored, of course!)
How would you feel if somebody sprayed that bullshit on your car or house it's complete stupidity an disrespect to for others property an should be felt with with several jail time not a slap on wrist it shows complete ignorace
No, we actually like the rail cars with no graffiti. Much harder to find these days for sure! But there are a lot of other channels that cover that topic well on TH-cam!
The de-evolution of humans to feel the need to deface property. What kind of low-life’s spend their time marking up trains, bridges, signs and buildings with spray paint? Is it somewhat like dogs lifting a leg on things to mark their territory? What is their outlook on life? What do they do for a living? Where do they get the paint…and food to eat?
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This is from our full 3 hour feature "Freight West" available at www.cspmovies.com
Does this DVD. chronicle the entire trip from Bakersfield to Mojave??
So wonderful to see good quality film of "yellowbonnet" Santa Fe locos. The lack of graffiti is just icing on the cake for me.
Yellowbonnet Santa Fe engines always look super on film and in photos!
When freight cars had no graffiti , and a country had some "Moral's"!
Awesome video. I miss them days when the fright cars were nice and clean not like nowadays. Have a wonderful upcoming weekend.(Steve)
Thanks Steve, Aw the good ole' days! We hope you have a super weekend to thanks for watching
@@charlessmileyvideos you're very welcome and thank you very much also.
I agree
Agreed. This opening scene looks beautiful. But make no mistake. The runs in these areas and down in the desert are no picnic
These videos are really good. And lots of input. Awesome.
Have a great weekend .
P.j. Carpinteria Calif
That DPU with the SPSF colors..
Wish people today were more respectful of train cars being private property, unlike today.
We agree, they look great without the paint!
That was actually a manned helper, not distributed power units. DPU came much later.
@@Brother_D_therail "AHU (Auxiliary Helper Unit), alright!" 😆
@@ModMokkaMatti Oh, ok I guess. Haha 😄. I worked those auxiliary helper units quite a few times back then. Good old days for sure. 🚂🚂🚂
Thank you for sharing!! Love the old diesels and graffiti free cars
I believe that mostly the freight cars used in revenue cargo service have been scribbled up with spray enamel paint. Otherwise, the only locomotives that have been defaced are those laid up on tracks to be moved or simply lifted off the tracks and then scrapped.👌
It sure is nice to see freight cars without graffiti for a change. That's why I like these types of videos which also feature older motive power and rolling stock. Excellent video !
I'm so glad I did most of my Railfanning from the late 1960s to the mid 1980s when this was true and all the many great Fallen Flag roads and colors !! 👍
Boy oh boy, I remember those days and then slowly began seeing it all over them. It seems to me it got even worse after the company got rid of cabooses! Sure nice to look back and remember the days people had respect for others property.
Yes, times have changed for sure! What is funny is I am not so sure these same Grafitti artists would appreciate me or you tagging their car or house in the middle of the night.
@@charlessmileyvideos Like said I remember those days. Living next to the tracks (75-100ft away from tracks) I do remember those days well. MY grandmother would feed the engineers when they'd stop next to the house. Great memories
The laws only consider it a misdemeanor. Which is just a ticket. If they do $1,000 or more in some kind of damage then it's a felony and can be arrested.
Enjoy it like I and others do. You'll never see those days again.
@@bobtrevorah2305 "just embrace the world getting worse, duh" lmao
It is great to see the trains back when, as others have commented, people had more respect. The days when railroads were more friendly to railfans being trackside! The advent of the aerosol paint can, combined with a lack of respect for what is not theirs, changed all of that forever. Those of us who are respectful and just want to see the trains are not as welcomed anymore. It is a shame!
I miss the 70s and 80s! I miss so many different railroads, especially the Seaboard Coast Line and the Santa Fe.
And the only graffiti was in the northeast and nowhere near as common as it is today!
Illinois Central Gulf and Missouri Pacific too
What a film with great action of SP & SF, specially those sp trains with lumber loads , without a doubt those wood companies got their money worth shipping out all that wood all over eastern side of the US. What a time for the railroads when things was booming though the 90's.😌👏👏👏👌👍💫
Graffiti is a crime that needs to be addressed again
Graffiti is simply another form of vandalism. 😔
We agree and we don't really like it on trains!
Great video, loved the look of the clean rolling stock. Especially enjoyed the extra technical details that were narrating in describing the car features and camera and film quirks. Very informative. It was a great era to grow up in.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties I had a VW camper van that I used to take to the Tehachapi Loop and camp out. Unfortunately you can’t do that anymore.
We had many fun nights under the Stars at the Loop! Even brought Motor Homes, Couches and BBQs
Yeah, no Graffiti here! The way Railroading was meant to be! More at www.cspmovies.com
Those dead end canyons were great quail and chucked hunting spots. But things change and the area is just no fun these days. I used to love the sounds of the trains in the distance while out on foot in the area.
Wow, cool stories! When you say things changed was it the Quail or access to hunting grounds with private property. These were the years you were there I am sure 1970-1988!
Thanks for explaining the connecting pipes between the oil tankers. I always wondered about their purpose!
Very nice video and the history of it thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for supporting our channel!
Thank you for the video and your narrative.
These videos are a treasure. I really need to add more to my library.
The ATSF at around 3 minutes was an awesome mix of yellow stripe and warbonnets!
A bit more respect for private property back then. and less lawlessness.
Probobly didnt sell spray paint at 7-11 then
I HATE graffitti on anything. It makes everything look ghetto.
Spot on….. today, people have no respect or responsibility
Don't forget the attitude of entitlement that's raging through our society.
If only they had written something in their school books instead they most likely would have a job!
Absolutely splendid!! This is some of the nicest footage of trains on Tehachapi that I have ever seen. It captures some of the finest moments of both the Espee and the Santa Fe. The footage of the variety of freight cars, particularly all of the different types of boxcars that Espee rostered is just incredible. Job well done!!
9:51 A guy waving at the camera on that lumber loaded flat car
Classic what a ride that must have been!
Wondered if anyone else would catch that.
that fellow is riding his pre-fab house...........
Arrest him, he's trespassing.....All down hill from there, LOL.
Very well done. I appreciate the explanations about filming. As for grafitti, I hate it. It is not art. It's vandalism. I wonder how these so called artists would appreciate the same being done to their car!
I miss seeing those "Solid Cold" "Solid Gold" FGE cars. Would be cool to see retro painted freight cars, alike and along side the way NS has done the right thing on their locomotives for the fallen flags.
Great idea, we loved those "Solid Cold" "Solid Gold" reefers they were sweet! Reminds me of Summer!
Me too
The difference between then and now. Deviance wasn’t as normalized as it is today. Neither was stupidity as common. Common sense was common. The New Hope and Ivyland railroad/McHugh Bros is a tourist short line in southeastern Pennsylvania. Steam trains and freight. Trackage was once a part of the Reading Railroad. Now serviced by the CSX and Northeastern Pennsylvania railroads.
Some of the graffiti displays the skills of talented artists. Maybe some shop could hire them and put their skills to good use.
Yes. Like removing their “artwork” with a toothbrush until their fingers are so numb, they would never pick up a rattle can for the rest of their lives.
Thanks again 😁👍
Your welcome donsmith have a super weekend and thanks for watching!
Very 😎👍thank you
Thank you too
Ah, the good old days when America's cities weren't crawling with vandals and other criminal vermin.
Yeah sure 😂😂😂
Using 16mm film, possibly 7239 stock, 73xx stock was a reversal film if I remember …
I remember those days too!
Hilarious to see all the people complaining about graffiti and saying that the railroad should care. The railroad doesn't own the cars anymore. They don't even care about their own employees and they can't even stop people from breaking the containers and stealing. And you guys really think graffiti is a big problem. This is what's wrong with this country This exact type of mentality
there's always one like you on every video like this. Nobody's saying it hurts anything, but it is a sign of the times. It's undeniable.
@@jamesm6638 And there's always one like you to respond. Like I was fucking talking to you. Don't like what I have to say. Keep moving on. Until then, keep crying. What I said is true and has no false so eat it and enjoy it
At least the graffiti people have good grammar skills. That would be spelling skills for simpleton thinking... If you're commenting on here, who are you talking to?? Yourself? I'm talking to you, look at me when I'm speaking 😂
I miss the days when the only form of graffiti was a soapstone marking from "the Rambling Rose of Texas," or something similar. Not too noticeable when a train was flying past, unlike the multicolored offerings of today.
Yep, chalk drawings and hobo maps to safe places long forgotten means of communication. There is much more here on TH-cam about Hobo Chalk and signals!
The GOOD OLD DAYS
I think grafitti is one of many signs of a society in decline.The ugliness spreads.
I miss this era too. I have no interest in the modern "sanitized" (no pole lines, everything uniform, no large logos) look of railroading. Even the SP equipment looked clean and well cared for back then.
as iconic as the santa fe silver and red warbonnet paint scheme is, the blue and yellow has an underrated character to it
No grafitti but so dirty no paint would have stuck to anything.
if anything everything is cleaner than today tbh, or at least no dirtier
Although some graffiti has an artistic quality to it, it's kinda nice to see railroad cars without it. Certainly doesn't occur anymore.
It is good to see a graffiti less train for once. Must be in a time when the railroad hired more police to patrol the rail yards. Wish those days would comeback.
Wow. I didn't know that railroads were running DPU locomotives back then. It surprised me to find 4 of them in the middle of the train. I guess running DPUs is no longer a new thing that railroads are doing these days.
I was working on a CB&Q that's a railroad , a fireman on the locomotive, then one day I saw a little baby crawling along the track a baby mind you. And I grabbed that baby, and I flung it into a nice pile of soft leaves. Me well I didn't make out so good. Fractured my leg. The baby was all right. Today that baby is president of Vons supermarket you think he ever took the trouble to thank me, no sir! Rich folks got short memories.
On the Illinois Terminal back in the 60's and 70's, I remember seeing Herbies and RAT face Sweeny on the trains. 😅
Yes , that bothers me . Few things are cool , but not on train cars.
Agreed!
some of the art is pretty cool
Back when railfans filmed the entire train and not just the motive power like they do these days.
Counted 34 individual road names. Out of that 34 only two possibly still remain, UP obviously and IIRC CPAA was a alternate CP reporting mark.
Sound effects are from a train going over a diamond. . . . . . . there is NO diamond here.
I luv graffiti on freight cars. Tehachapi Pass is my stomping ground and watch trains all along the route. From the Horseshoe curve in Caliente to the loop to Marcel, it’s all fantastic train watching. Graffiti is a type of art to me on rail cars and I find it interesting.
The railroads now have to spend money on painting over the ugly graffiti, which can run into the millions. Now to cover this needless expense, the railroads have to raise their rates to shippers which they pass on to us the consumer! It's going to us all money ! The graffiti vandals should go and paint their own houses.
Its as if the tatoo craze has gone far beyond the bounds of expression and art. The entire concept of vandalism is ignorant
Us "oldtimers" would never have an inkling of a thought of putting any ugliness on a freight car or LOCOMOTIVE!!!
Well, personally, I think that the Penn Central paint scheme is its own form of ugliness. That being said, maybe it’s different in the areas I live, but I’ve not seen graffiti on too many railroad cars. I’ve seen it a couple times, but not to a ridiculous degree. That being said from what I’ve looked at box cars I don’t think they are usually as colorful as some of the ones in this.
I wonder if anyone has estimated the labor and materials cost expended to paint graffitti (on both sides) of almost every rail car in north america in a 30 year time span.
Wow, hundreds of millions I am sure!
The railroads should team up with law enforcement to identify which gang is painting. Then have them repaint the whole car by hand. Train watching is fun but not seeing the GARBAGE on the side of cars. Some of the young ones have No Respect that no RESPECT for personal property.
Thanks for posting this video! It's really nice to see a graffiti free train! I hate the ugly sight of that garbage! The railroads have to spend millions of dollars each year painting over that junk, which translates to higher freight rates for shippers and shippers passing on the cost to the consumers! The consumer in the end is going to be the loser! The worthless graffiti vandals don't have to pay! They should go and paint their OWN houses with those UGLY images!
There is a dude riding on top the lumber car at 9.48
Is that a guy ridding a lumber bulkhead at 9:50? Looks like he was waving.
I still have a VHS video camera. Don't know if the batteries still work
Hi: I am Spaniard, European. Unfortunately we have not copied the good things of the USA but the bad things of the suburbs such as graffiti and loud and repetitive music. My greetings to the railway fans of your great country. Bests Regards.
I don't like to put graphiti all over my models. I fashion my operation after a time when I was a kid and you didn't see a mess all over the side of cars and locomotives. I also consider the re-sale value. Some people want to put their own stuff on the models and make it their own.
Agreed, no need to put paint on the models they have super paint jobs without it!
Before neighbors started learning about their “rights”.
If law enforcement was hard and strict to those who commit crimes you won't have this problem! If it's kids who do this they are let go since they are juveniles. That's nonsense, the parents should be held liable! We cannot have a country where laws are violated! If you damage or destroy property, you are liable!!!
Funny Shock Title 😲 .. filmed and narrated in days of box car hobos, caboose and decency. Decades before graffiti, zombie alien druggie camps and container shipping.
You got that right johnrobinson, these were some good times in railroading if your were a hobo or railfan.
So who else caught the stowaway at 9:47?
Classic right!
Grafitti is awful. Some people try to justify it by pretending it's art.
My friend who works for the Belt Railroad of Chicago says that the scanners that read the ID codes on the cars CAN'T read it because those dam graffiti vandals! They paint over the reporting marks and tags on the cars with that ugly garbage! They should go and paint their own homes with that ugly, horrible trash!
any chance of a video segment on the rock island of the 1970s till its closing? there's not a lot of footage for that time period
Kids today have no respect and parents let them do whatever they want Should make it against the law and if they get caught Their parents will have to pay the fine or if they are old enough to work Then they should pay the fine
If the government could step up to stop this graffiti on the railroad but won't happen
To be honest freight cars without freight are boring AF. Graffiti makes railfanning a lot more interesting on my opinion
Even worse is the fact that Union Pacific does its best to not allow any old Southern Pacific locos to run on their rail anymore.
Love seeing unpainted cars why destroy some ones property. I really think it degrades a perfect layout. To put graffiti cars on such hard work . They destroy everything. Guess they don't know what canvas is. To trashy.
Trains in Singapore don't have graffiti. Why? Becase they will whip your ass literally.
Who has the time and money to spray paint railroad cars???
Unaccomplished deadbeats?
It's crazy what a little meth will do. Idiots.
did I see a waving hobo at 9:51 ?
Yep, ride of his lifetime!
Yep. On a lumber load.😂
"more than 60 percent of North American freight cars are leased or owned by others - not by the railroads". Freightwaves. (few if any tankers are owned by a railroad). And even those freightcars owned by a railroad are usually out all over the country on other railways - they don't unload them and transfer the freight to another car at the end of their line. Also, you don't see too many actual freight cars anymore - most are flatbeds hauling containers. So I suppose the railways really don't care about the graffitti, as they either don't own the cars or can't control it without hiring massive security to patrol their yards. Security-wise, railroads are almost impossible to secure in any way at any time, even in wartime.
Gangs in California are the ones who started the graffiti on freight cars back in the late 90s. That unfortunately spreaded across the country. Goes to show the lack of respect of property today's kids have. Where are railroad cops when these vandals are doing their thing instead of fussing at railfans for being on or too close to the tracks?
Because this was shot on film it almost appears as a model railroad. Spay paint isn't cheap, defiling private property is expensive. I don't get it
You think the taggers pay for their paint?
@@macmedic892 I have no idea
A good portion of it is lifted, but it is getting harder because it is behind lock and key at the Hardware Store!
Actually,there's always been graffiti on freight cars.
Just not as visible as now.😢😮😅😊
The railroads could stop the graffiti on cars but the railroads don't care
The railroads can’t stop people from opening shipping containers and stealing or damaging the cargo. They’re not really worried about paint unless it covers the reporting marks.
Also-unlike in today’s video-the railroads of today don’t own most of the cars. Leasing companies do. Why should the railroad care?
So why don't the railroads here take and clean up their rolling stock? Don't see this in Japan or Europe!
Railroads in the US don't prioritize or have enough resources to clean up the problem. Too bad they can't come up with some kind of "Anti Grafitti Paint" for the cars.
The other issue is many cars go South of the Border so good luck once you are down there!
In Europe, both passenger and freight trains have graffiti on them. Its mainly East Asia where the trains are free from graffiti, probably due to the culture being centered around being civilized
"When Freight Trains Had No Grafitti" Really? That would be news to some of the lumber crayon artists of the mid 20th century like Herby, Midnight Rambler, John Easley, and Easy Honey plus hundreds of more boxcar taggers of a bygone era
Of course there's a _huge_ difference between the small and faint markings of hobos and car inspectors and the spray-painted eyesores on almost all cars since the 1980s. The former was culture and folklore, the latter is vandalism.
@@tcarney57 "No" means none.
@@GrumpyOldRailroader Yes, in a black and white world.
@@GrumpyOldRailroader "railroading when there wasn't as much graffiti, and when there was, it wasn't intrusive" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as a video title
It is so sad that such beautiful artwork gets covered up by such ugly graffiti. It is the same now with our highways and buildings all in the name of expression.
It is refreshing to see clean rolling stock with logos and bright colors!
Russia does not put up with any graffiti
I love to see freight cars unscribbled. The scribblings painted with enamel paint on the freight cars are an eye-irritating eyesore that makes know the reason that railroad owners and operators do not want the general public on the railroad grounds, and I would not give them one single challenge.
I lived next to an RR. I think the RR should primer the car white, paint and mark the top half, and let the kids finish the bottom! If ya can't beat 'em join em. There's some pretty amazing artwork out there that's actually signed. Make a good picture book (censored, of course!)
Graffiti on trains are WAY MORE Cooler 🧨🙌🏼📸🎨
As an artist, I love graffiti. Especially in a time when everything is painted dark and bland colors.
How would you feel if somebody sprayed that bullshit on your car or house it's complete stupidity an disrespect to for others property an should be felt with with several jail time not a slap on wrist it shows complete ignorace
Funny how CA is anti-oil……yet they have oilfields and trains running to and from those oilfields? Ohh the hypocracy of the Left! 😂😂😂😂😂
I was hoping the video was about the evolution of graffiti on freight cars, no such luck.
No, we actually like the rail cars with no graffiti. Much harder to find these days for sure! But there are a lot of other channels that cover that topic well on TH-cam!
@@charlessmileyvideos I HATE GRAFFITI!
I think people that deface property should go to jail or remove the graffiti. Most will never have enough money to pay for it's removal.
Agreed and it would be interesting to know what prompted the vandalism and why railroads chose to look the other way.
The de-evolution of humans to feel the need to deface property. What kind of low-life’s spend their time marking up trains, bridges, signs and buildings with spray paint? Is it somewhat like dogs lifting a leg on things to mark their territory? What is their outlook on life? What do they do for a living? Where do they get the paint…and food to eat?