anyone else struggle for half an hour + every morning to convince yourself to get up and brush your teeth? just walking to the sink is, well, painful. every simple task is daunting. everything hurts. everything. my brain is broken.
As someone who has spent a significant amount of my life in a state of depression, I am SO relieved to hear her acknowledge some people cannot talk themselves out of it. My childhood was fine, thank you. My parents were (and are) patient, caring, loving people. Nobody abused me. Yet the feeling of joy or even contentment eluded me. I was/am lucky as a combination of medications eventually worked. I still have some very difficult days but compared to where I have been I am exponentially better. My doctor of many years summed it up well when she said "Gary, you could talk and talk and talk all day. It would make no difference. This is about chemicals in your brain. For some reason they don't work well so let's help your brain and fix it." It took a while, but we did.
I always ask myself how I let myself get to this point. I grew up the same way. I have a great family that I tend to isolate myself from. Lost in my own thoughts. Even with people in the room it feels empty. I kind of just shut down. I feel awful they don't deserve to have to go through my bad days. My husband always tells me I have a chemical imbalance in my brain. Go take my meds and change my mood. Only if it worked liked that. For the past 20 plus years it's been up and down with the medication. I am glad you have found something that works.
@@Christina-vd4sv I still have plenty of difficult days. My ex has told me "you always spent an enormous amount of time just coping." I realize that is true. One thing I always wonder and ask is what am I supposed to learn or teach from this. I hope my sharing of my story will help even one other person.
@@garypederson2767 i'm going to wait until i'm 18 (less than a month away) and then try to get help. i know i need to. it's reassuring that i won't have to take them forever but i'm still apprehensive medicating myself because of my mental health but maybe that's irrational
You know what is totally amazing? Every person with depression who is commenting has a greatly elevated ability to communicate clearly and even to spell!!! Most comment sections on TH-cam are loaded with illiterate comments that you can barely understand. Kind of interesting.
Linda Keene I’m glad you said that. A lot of people don’t understand that most mentally ill people are very intelligent. Most of my uncles have 2-3 degrees a piece, yet they were schizophrenic. The brain is just so amazing.
I suspect that is a little causative and not just correlational. As Dr. Mayberg noted, depression causes people to operate somewhat slower than the normative population, which includes written/typed communication. That gives us more time to ensure that words are spelled correctly and to edit our response. Since it requires more neurological exertion of us, when we make the effort, we want it to mean something. I'd hate to put 15 minutes into a response only to have someone prove to me that I write like a 5-year-old on acid.
This is an extraordinary presentation. It explains so much about the void, the pit of negativity. When I experienced a major acute depressive episode, I could not imagine ever returning to a normal life. At the time, I had a friend who demanded that I call her, that I tell her about my depression, etc. She could not and would not accept that her needs were not part of my recovery. As expected, she began exhibiting anger. As I recovered with psychotherapy and anti-depressants, I saw the toxicity of this relationship for what it was and, this is a huge gift from the process, ended the relationship. Many depressed people recount similar stories.
When I was in my deepest depression, I had a dream one night that I died from an explosion and when I woke up I was so disappointed that I woke up. I was really DEEPLY disappointed that I had to wake up.
I'm 62 and I've lived with it all my life. People who don't have it can't understand how much hope something like this brings into our lives. Depression has been like being wrapped in a rotting shroud all my life and I've lived through a number of suicide attempts just to try to escape the pain. I've cut myself to try to let some of the pain out, or at least be able to see pain when I bleed. It hurts in a way you can never explain to someone who doesn't have it. 'Where?' they ask. Depending on when they ask, it's everywhere. Or sometimes you manage to get 'I don't know' through the tears. They could do this to me tonight because each day I lose more and more strength to fight.
I am 50, from Easy Europe. I got rid of depression 25 years ago! Thanks to body psychotherapy. Check their web site of "European Association for Body Psychotherapy".
that was the most engaging, inspiring thing I’ve ever watched. It was both revolutionary and compassionate - I’ve had depression for nine years so far and nothing has ever given me more hope (even though I currently feel hopeless). I truly hope she can inspire the next generation to further this ethos 🤍
What a different world this would be if more people had this woman's compassion. On a suicide forum I used to visit, the main thing people were unhappy with was the selfishness of society in general.
I used to love, laugh, play, I was active, I was always seeking knowledge, I was alive. and now look at me a dead soul with a dead heart and a broken brain who feel hopeless and who can't even tell his parents because he's too deep that he can't find words to express how he's feeling and who is tired to just explain to your parents why you're depressed.
Dear Hamza, you really need to speak with your parents, or somebody who loves you the most! My opinion, our parents love us the most! God bless you, and I hope soon you ll be well and happy again! Best and healthy wishes!
Simply hearing other's voices and comments, lets me know I am not alone. We are all struggling together, in unison, hoping for compassion where there is none, and understanding when there is only criticism. How much longer, is the question each and every day.
It's the second time I listened to her work, still so beautiful and amazing! Thank you Dr. Mayberg, it's people like you that makes the world into a better place and bring lights back to life
I totally agree with you! I don't want to die, I just don't want to deal with my mental health issues anymore! It's all too hard, too exhausting, too painful, too hard
One of THE BEST Ted talks I've seen on depression! Not only looking into methods for treatment resistant depression, but also listening to the person being treated and not just another case number! I've been dealing with depression for over 20 years and tried all different meds...and they either have me sleep 12-14hrs a day or really bad side effects. Because nothing worked I couldn't keep a job and ended up on disability. I've been using a more natural approach and going to counseling which help some, just not enough to get my life back. This sounds promising and would love to learn more. Thank You Dr Mayberg!
If you have enough stress and worry over a long period of time then it can tip over in to depression. Because being stressed and not at ease day in day out for years and years will exhaust a persons adrenal gland and depletes the feel good chemicals in their brains too. If someone is carrying around feelings of guilt and shame and self loathing, then these emotions can also trigger a depression. Enough worry and stress will cause a big depression. I believe there are always reasons people are depressed. Even if some arent conscious of it.
justmadeit2 i agree with you.long term stress and traumatic experiences. Do augment the severety of depression.but some people also just happen to carry depression since they were born .and i happend to be one of them.
Absoutly i was in a daily Stress and fear as a child because of my parent. I would be abused eather verbaly or phisicly for a slitest mistake.wich made me develope severe type of social anxiety and chronic depression.
GLUTAMATE GLUTAMATE me too, damage too deep to undo, sorry to be negative but that’s how I feel & have surmised from videos. Yeah, depression from childhood trauma is different than getting down after losing a job. I can’t remember a time not being depressed. I don’t think ppl understand the difference.
Great... I wish there are more doctors like her and more research will be done for mapping the brain network for mental illness so that brain scan for mental illness is as common as MRI for bone\join injury. Anxiety and depression is a disease that doesn't get enough focus. Except for Pharmaceutical companies, who spent millions into drugs that make them billions. Psychiatrists who prescribed them by trials and errors. There is no diagnosis they recommend or use to determine what is the proper treatments. Brain scan should be a regular process that is used to treat brain illness, the same as people getting MRI or XRAY for bone\joint injuries.
Dam...! I have all those you mentioned too.. I hate living now. I lost everything,... and can't function normal. I'm mentally paralyzed.. with no desires, no will... just fear, and unable to leave the apt. Can socialize at all. How do you go on? I know you're post is from year's ago...... have you been able to recover?.. I hope you have. I can't live like this.. 😢🫶
I'm so broken I can't be fixed. I'm taking the meds and going to therapy, but it feels like going through the motions. I'm so tired of waiting for the fog to lift.
Lance Bowman: how are you now? I ask because I’m in the same situation as you were. My therapist told me she can’t help me, that I’m too far gone, too many things wrong with me, and my only option is to commit myself in an inpatient facility. But I’m not doing that.
@@bryanw5951 your therapist should have told you that SHE was not equipped to help you, but someone else would be. You are not too far gone: she's not equipped with the skills necessary to help you.
It is very much a nightmarish state of darkness and weight. This video really struck a cord with its descriptions. For me it's a heavy, suffocating, dark fog that makes every thought, activity, movement etc. feel like an impossible feat. Like trying to keep your head above water with 300 lbs of chains and weights strapped all over your body. The inability to focus mentally but also weirdly even visually. I'd find myself staring off into nothing for who knows how long, and getting terrible headaches from the eye strain of not blinking for long periods. Hypersomnia (as opposed to insomnia) is the symptom that has the most immediate effect on my day to day life. At some points I'm sleeping 16-18 hrs a day and even when I'm awake I only get up to use the bathroom or eat. I can't even bring myself to shower or comb my hair for weeks at a time. I used to take such pride in my hair and in this state I've had several occasions (on days with a modicum of improvement) where I have to spend hours trying to work out the matted hair at the back of my head from so much time spent laying down. After 5+ years of this nightmare I don't think I'm ever going to truly get better. I think about suicide constantly but can't even find the strength, energy, and motivation to end this.
TheClassics4me Sounds like to me that nazis have got a hold of you. They are spreading chemicals all over the world in an attempt to make us so sick that we die, not that death is for real. Your nightmarish state is caused by the way you think. You believe in death, so have given up. What is the use? you say. These nazis have been putting fluoride in the drinking water for many years to drug people. Fluoride is a toxic waste that keeps people in a zombie like state. Then they don't resist. Super large frequency towers are being built to control us. Chemtrails dry out the air. Fukushima was bombed on purpose by these nazis so that the radiation would make us sick and then kill us. These nazis are psychopaths that want to make lots of money on our sickness before we die. You are down to begin with because death is being marketed as being for real. Death makes these nazis a lot of money. Prisons are for profit just like wars and drugs. But our thoughts are stronger. You could see yourself as an eternal energy being able to overcome all these chemicals because we consist of 7 billion billion billion atoms, each one spinning and vibrating so super fast that death is not possible. We are constantly being created as eternal, powerful energy and light beings or holograms that chemicals can not hurt. But it takes imagery to make that true. See the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan to find more details.
62 yrs old here. PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder, anxiety and depression are my life. The pain is utterly unbearable. One suicide attempt. Trying not to leave a legacy of parental suicide. Sober x 10 yrs. The pain of depression is like living in a vast bleak wasteland where dread and guilt choke the life outta you. No connection to daily events in any meaningful manner. I am weary.
Avalynn Waller Hi, I am called 63 on my birth certificate, but I know myself to be eternal energy. I was hated as a child, too. I hate being around sarcastic people that are aiming it at me. That is my PTSD. I am stressed about being on earth and the lack of help. Been anti social my whole life since the age of 8. Wasn't until my late 20's that I found the right books that say we are eternal energy beings. Then my wasteland of dread and guilt went away, mostly. One book is "Hands of Light" written by the NASA physicist Barbara Brennan. I found out that thoughts are imagery and we are holograms. That is quantum physics. Every thought is a picture that changes the body. We are chameleons that change constantly with these pictures. I can see little bumps come up on my skin when I get stressed now. I know the cause right away because I know what I am thinking is changing my body. I have healed myself several times really fast just by changing my thoughts. I have felt energy flow in to me and out of me in healing ways. There are many books that teach imagery as healer. We are perfect to begin with. Keep a picture of yourself as always perfect energy.
@@Gainerone It is hard if it is not exciting. Finding out you are spinning and pulsating as 7 billion billion billion atoms of light all at the same time should be real exciting. You now know something nobody else talks about that I know of. Each atom is electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. This is what physicists say. Light is the short term. We are immersed in and saturated with a unified field of electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. Without it, electricity and everything else would not exist. Without it, static electricity would not happen. This field is what people call God. This electricity is the mind of God. This God is a gestalt of energy, a holodeck so immense that from this dimension it would take LSD to see it. When we leave these bodies we pop out into a dimension that is more like a LSD trip. Some people have learned to do this on purpose. These are called OBEs. Out of body experiences. Nothing, no ideas, are stable like they are here. An immense focus is needed so that waves of light and energy form into what we are. We are the result of a tremendous focus that is kept by our souls. We are personalities of our souls, which really exist as huge beings of electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. Otherwise, where is the information coming from that these quarks bring as they burst forth spinning billions of times a second forming us? These quarks are actually tetrahadrons or triangles that spin real fast. And these triangles are like fractals that form us. So we fit together like puzzles. I have read all of this in books.
This video gives me some hope again. Thanks for this and the work that is undertaken by Dr. Helen Mayberg. I try to be as transparent as possible with everyone around me cause I can't stand hiding and feel guilty even worthless all the time. As everyone says, no one who had such experiences will truly understand this constant state of hopeless and being emotionally dead. So with 95% of people I talk to, I still feel guilty that something's wrong with me... that I'm not "normal" and not strong as they are to simply think positive. BUT those 5% help me to feel "some sort of" Okay. To feel I'm accepted OR that my disease is accepted. If I wouldn't fight myself, again and again, to overcome and be transparent to everyone (even at or even more: especially at work), I would feel 100% worthless instead of only 95%. I highly encourage everyone suffering from depression (directly or indirectly) to not make a secret out of it. It helps you to better understand yourself and it helps to grow this little 5% through awareness and understanding and the need for help.
Watching a lot of these talks/lectures on depression has resonated with me deeply. Especially coming out of the throes of depressive episodes but stumbling into one and not being able to get back up to surface, months and years of complete nothingness and monotony. I would always be able to get past those periods of immense apathy and agony but when I was 18 I fell into this never ending descent and for nearly several years it has exponentially gotten worse, festering, eating away at any remnants of a person and identity I had left. I’ve tried almost every medication, and am incompatible with ssris. It’s frustrating because you believe what you’re seeing and how your perceiving things to be the TRUTH that no one else sees, that it’s clarity and not the depression permeating and infiltrating your mind.
o o 7 read the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan. She has proven that death is a lie and that we are holograms. Actually E=mc2 proved that. This has always been true, but is not taught in schools and hospitals because there are trillionaire bankers that are a mafia that want us sick and lost and depressed. You can find this information online in youtubes like "The Corporation" and "Murder by Injection" by Mullins. Mullins wrote a lot of books about the info he found out regarding the federal reserve. This is a private organization created by bankers in 1913 for the reason of constantly taking the money of the American people in the form of taxes and interests. When these bankers fail banks on purpose, they are hoping that people will then have to borrow money, which will make the bankers trillions of dollars on the interests paid. 9/11 was caused on purpose by these bankers so that they could incite the people to go to other countries to kill the people there and then to take their resources. When an incident like this is caused on purpose as entry into a war, then it is called a false flag. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor and the one that started Vietnam were all false flags. The bombing of Fukushima on purpose with HAARP was a false flag. Depressions and recessions are on purpose. These bankers are psychopathic murderers. I was severely abused and bullied as a child, so I know what harsh depression feels like. I was not able to change until I started reading books.
Extraordinary, I deeply enjoyed this insight and think that integrating the neuropsychology of a human into the identification, understanding, and resolution of mental illness is truly essential, first-person perspective should be the starting point of any therapy.
I've said this for most 9f my life. I've been medicated and medicated! I am done being a zombie that feels the same pain. I still feel the same. It never gets better. I believe that mapping is crucial. I am so over insurance not covering what will help us tremendously. I am on social security and can barely afford to live. I am saving for a brain scan. I know this will change my life. I am ready to live a life of hope and unafraid. Thankyou for coming into my algorithm and giving me hope for the future. I feel like a prisoner inside my head. It's no way to live. Where do I go next?
I said ok in the procedure room to put in three cardiac stents. Then I regretted doing it extremely! I have been feeling so bad, and so helpless since then !
Not feeling any feeling at all is the scariest, I literally have no feelings except for my kids. I have been thru this for over a year and changing meds. How can they say if 50 percent improves then that's success?? I wouldn't want those odds with any other disease.
Holly The dis-ease is the belief in death. And death is a lie. We are holograms or eternal energy beings proven by quantum physics a long time ago. One book to find details of this in: "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan.
Life is very hard. Nobody said it was going to be easy. I really feel for these folks. Its hard to get up each day and fight. Because life is a fight. I wish well to all.
I am 72 years old and have had depression nearly all my life in my memory. For a while I was able to get therapy, try different medication etc. Now I am not able to even get my medicine. I live alone and have no family members that I can ask for help. I live day to day and hope I don't fall in that trap.
I’m going into my 7th year of feeling depressed. I can’t say I have anything since I never got a diagnosis. I tried every cope I could. It’s to the point where if medication and therapy doesn’t work, there’s nothing else for me to do but suffer. I’m only developing more problems. I don’t even want help at this point. I want to just end it
@SoundWeeb Undying I've felt depression, anxiety, self loathing, a total abyss for at least 15 years got the best of me, until I snapped and wound up in the hospital. I just never had courage to ask for help, until I simply couldn't take it. Don't go that route, please, it's horrible. No one deserves this, try to seek help, speak up to someone you trust that you're not well, anything. It's not going to miraculously solve everything (I'm on meds for over 2 years now, switching along the way to see what helps more) last year started therapy.. It's still a struggle but at least I feel like I'm doing something, you know? I hope you find peace within as well, stay strong!
Claudia Eira as much as I’d like to get help, I just cant afford everything while feeling financially safe. And I just don’t see any worth in getting help. I can barley even understand any of my problems to the point where I feel like I’m faking it
This was a fantastically informative video! I think I'll be sending it to my employer as a the representation of how I see my depression. It's not like I think psychology and life balance etc don't play a role in any depression but I know in my case the onset was so sudden after a flare-up of an autoimmune disorder it left little doubt it was 'mostly' a biological/medical issue. That's why I'd like to point out pretty much the only statement I disagree with in this whole lecture. At 2:13 where she says "...when the brain fails to be able to adapt to circumstance to the situation; when it breaks." It's not like what she said is untrue, it more that that delivery doesn't help the current stigma (y'know while she's working on a golden treatment - but still). It would be like saying people get colds because their immune system breaks down...and even that isn't as bad because if there's one thing we're all supposed to have control over is our mind.
Jeepers! Really sorry to hear that Deb. Those are terrible feelings to have and I know from experience. You're not alone though. Have you sat with your family doctor yet to explain what's going on?
the frustrating part about videos like these is they dont tell you HOW to access the help they describe! where can i get this DBS? how to i find it?! not knowing makes me feel hopeless than before i watched the video
I honestly think of taking my own life about two times a minute everyday all day for years fortunately I have people who love me still here and I could never anguish them to that degree but if these demons still exist after they're gone, that's when I will take control of my own fate.
I recommend you take psychedelic mushroom it’s the best to cure depression, I was depressed a while back but after I used magic mushroom it cured my negative thoughts and gave me the truth in my situation making me understand and be happy , I get mine from an online vendor that specializes in the growth of psychedelic products
Can you help me. No else seems to be able to and I’m struggling to keep myself here anymore. I have 5 mental illnesses and it’s like taking care of 5 toddlers that destroy everything and are just menaces to society. It’s getting way too damn hard to live. I’m in so much pain and idk wtf to do
I recommend you take psychedelic mushroom it’s the best to cure depression, I was depressed a while back but after I used magic mushroom it cured my negative thoughts and gave me the truth in my situation making me understand and be happy , I get mine from an online vendor that specializes in the growth of psychedelic products
I'm in a very similar situation now too.... and I can totally relate to what you've said. I'm so afraid if what's happening to me... and living is just torture. I freaked out so many times. It's like to me being mentally paralyzed. Unable to do anything, or go anywhere.! 😫😭..... how are you now? 🙏.. hoping you are OK?
Looks like my severe Depression and Anhedonia is going to defeat me, as I’ve tried everything possible to get my life back.And DBS is still out of reach.
How are you doing now? ... I just watched this video. Unfortunately,.. I had a traumatic life change, that annihilated me.. I couldn't handle. The Stress was too much, caused anxiety, insomnia and anhedonic depression. I struggle hours to hour. I just can't explain this horror to anyone to understand. Hope you are doing better?
Hi, it's me again. Still I'm suffering horribly with anhedonia... I've lost everything I had now. My health is bad. Still wondering if you were able to get well?... Have you tried suicide?... I have, and made everything worse... I still hate this..!!
Hello, my husband is suffering with MDD AND OCD FROM PAST 17 YEARS NOW MEDICINES ALSO STOPPED WORKING AS IT SUPPOSE TO WORK, IN THIS REGARDS WHAT SHOULD WE DO. KINDLY HELP ME
Wanted to check back with you. Have you gotten better?.. I hope you were able 🙏 I'm suffering so badly. This depression is like quicksand... and I just hate myself and life. So much damage to myself ... Im more unable to do anything.... im so mentally paralyzed. I just want to end my life . I've gotten very close to doing it. ... I might not have to now... as I've become so ill,.. I look like I'm dying, and I still can't do anything about it.... 😢
This had to be the worst camera people on a Ted talk they where all over the place. Of staying on the diagram long enough viewing front the back of the room. Really did spoil this great talk for me. I’m in a depression and maybe that has something to do with it. I just want to get better, I want to stay out of bed and not wake up and dread having to get myself through another day and wishing it was all over. Depression sucks.
i what you people to read this>>>>>>>>>>yes a lot of times depression is in the brain and you can fix it a lot of times for people but some times depression is not just in the brain some times people r just broken on the inside of them some times its just in the inside the person they r broken in there soul this is what i call a broken soul and there r no meds and there r no pills in all the world that can fix r help a person that is just broken in there soul on the inside of them so some times depression is not just in the brain its just in the person just as its in me joeyHOPE
I would just like to know WHERE are these treatments and HOW can a common person with Medicare possibly afford them? That's great that they've found them but people are continuing to die from horrible mental healthcare in the US. I have treatment resistant major clinical depressive disorder and there are no answers after decades of trial and error. It took almost the last 2 years for me to find a new team of doctors, who take my insurance and are affordable along with prescribing the medications I needed to alleviate SOME issues. I could have died 5 times over. When opportunities like this come along it seems it's only beneficial for the wealthy. Because I guarantee it's cash pay when it comes to these treatments. That's what becomes so frustrating. Unless you have money you just suffer or die. No matter how much you advocate for yourself, and believe me advocating for yourself during a major depressive episode is such a conundrum, but no matter how much you still hit brick walls regarding whats afffforable and avalable.
@@peternorthrup6274 what's your problem with people working or not? A person with a mental issue is sick, just like a bad pneumonia that won't go away or whatever. . They need treatment and recovery, and sometimes can't work. No one needs your negativity. Be more empathetic. I've had to work many years in a terrible state of mental health just for fear of losing that job, because I desperately needed it, in which i ended up losing anyway! Ended with me in the hospital! So just don't assume things about people with mental illness ...
I have imagination about my death everytime I pray, and once every weeks I got suspended like my brain cant operate well, and waste at least 6 hours after I woke up from sleep for recover. Cannot remember any single name after 15 seconds, and Forgot every lecture that I got. also Anxious is my main problem when meets stranger (includes neighborhood) recently I know that Im depressed because school bullying, my teacher and classmates did it to me. and for 13 years I grow up without realizing that Im depressed. I hope my God end my suffer soon, but I guess he aren't visit youtube right xD thanks for reading
I followed with everything until she mentioned modern lobotomy. No ma’am, I don’t want holes in my skull right now. I agree with your theory, motivations, and ultimate goal but I still side with non-evasive treatments. I appreciate the great results from the patients. At least it worked well for them. Thanks, research & science.
Stephanie Have you read the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan? Her research has found the least evasive therapy I have ever read about. Some people call it reiki.
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I have had depression all my life since the age of about 8. I found what she said about being fifty percent better ridiculous, as the scrappy bits of help you can get therapists always try to write you off as "better", a relative term where no change can be inflated. They are so desperate to say their worthless treatments, CBT or SSRI's or whatever, make the patient "better", so they can get rid of you and deny you, that they don't care if it is true or not. They have ways of extracting a non-denial by the patient that they feel "better", and most patients to some extent feel under pressure to say something nice about the therapist.
I'm on (what I now know is) my 2nd bout. Didn't get diagnosed for the first one but hindsight is 20/20. This is a brilliant depiction of 1st person depression. I've used the "drowning" analogy from her list a hundred times. Also the feeling that a piece of myself/my brain broke off. Love the optimism behind these potential future treatment options. I hope this note finds you smiling Pat. Cheers :)
I agree. Psychiatry needs to be overhauled - these knuckleheads offer patients nothing. They earn a very comfortable living maintaining the status quo - passing out useless pills and therapies - keeping you coming back month after month and making you feel guilty if you aren't "getting better."
@@Luke-ih1oc My severe depression was caused by five foods I was eating. They gave me an anxious depression for three days. I avoided the five and never had depression again. Digestive problems were the first clue. One day I tried Splenda and it made me mildly depressed. Splenda messes up gut bacteria. So the second clue was that I had unbalanced gut flora. Yogurt as a gut remedy was out, as milk gave me severe depression. One day I just went to the doctor and told him I had a sinus infection. He gave me three courses of antibiotics. Antibiotics kill a lot of good bacteria, as well as bad bacteria. Turns out that it killed whatever bad bacteria was reacting to the proteins in these foods, causing inflammation. Incidentally, after the antiobiotics I craved yogurt like crazy, even though I hate yogurt. Sometimes out food cravings tell us something.
does anyone wonder why depression is so common in this country? we should try to get to the root causes of this debilitating and rampant condition, may be then something concrete can be done about it including prevention. such a sad and tragic phenomenon which seems to be on epidemic levels.
Life in this country has become crazy about money, so commercialized. It's like a competition to have "the best." If people would stop and enjoy simple things like nature or do a job they have a passion for I think it would help people a little.
I once read somewhere that the Earth will change poles within a certain amount of hundred thousands of years, and they stated that it causes an overall depressional state the more we get close to that time. I don't know how true it is, but as much as season changes can affect some depressed people, and some with other illnesses too, it kinda makes sense. also, the current state of things doesn't help much. we must be strong and keep fighting and living for ourselves as best as we can.
Most depression starting with physically ill for a very long time. Struggling for body pain. Long going treatment and money spending with doubts when it is gonna end. I was at 50% better then become worse again. Sad part? Going through the negative experience so many times and knowing that you are having to go through again! No end. No matter how you have long for getting better. But nope.. no better. That is sad.
My experience might help some of you. I think I suffered from depression since my teenage age, until i was almost 30. I t was an agony, I tried to kill myself twice. There was not a minute jn my ljfe I haven't thought of suicide. I almoat got anorexic. Also had agression issues. I started having all types of halucinations, it was terrifying.I had a lot of traumas that happened to me, which I talked about to a psychologist.Someone took me to a doctor one day, the meds made me worse at first it was an agony of 2 months, then I was a bit better. But now I know I was still in a really bad shape. They've changed meds for me and dosages a lot of times, I've switched through 5 psychiatrists. Today is about a year and a half that I haven't thought of suicide. Compared to every minute of my life before. I can function now, I actually feel almost normal. I take meds regurarly, when I don't-in a week it starts getring really bad. So I avoid that. They finally found what suits me, and they plan on lowering the dosages. I feel like I like lost my 20s...I was so damaged. But now, today, I feel good. I dont overthink, I function at home at work, with a partner. If I can do it and truat me I was so damaged, I think everyone or almost everyone can be helped. Takes time, lots od prescriptions, psychologist conversations, a lot of WILL TO GET BETTER. And money yes, I disnt have money but I managed, cauae health is most important. So , what Im saying, you CAN get better truat me,it took me 5years but it worked. I get dopamine and serotonin btw. I am not a happy shallow person now, I just am now. Whereas before I couldnt function properly for even a day. Will is most important, even when it wasnt working I tried something else. You cant stop trying cause if you dont feel better it just means they havent found a way that suits YOU. Jist push forward, you can actually lead a normal life.
Keep holding on to God. No matter what may be trying to keep you down, keep looking up to God. He will always be your hand in helping you get back up. We serve God who can do all things. Romans 8:31 tells us, “What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?” this means that no man, woman, boy or girl is a threat to the purpose God placed on the inside of you. This means that the Only way you experience defeat is when you surrender. In moments of worry and anxiety, we are called to bring our concerns before God in prayer. Instead of allowing anxiety to consume us, we can find peace and comfort in knowing that the Almighty God is attentive to our needs for He cares for us deeply. In the storms of life, God is our only hope. His faithfulness and His goodness are present Even during the darkest storm. we have a lot of growing up to do. we should continue to grow in our relationship with God, and there is no point where we can say we've "had enough" Jesus tells his followers not to worry about food, drink, clothing, or tomorrow, and instead to seek first God's kingdom and righteousness and He will give us everything we need. Give thanks and be appreciative of the small and big things that God is doing in your life. Doing that means that you are looking for God throughout your day. You’re looking for God in your situation. You’re looking for God in your struggles and your pains, and keeping your focus on God instead of focusing on all the bad that’s going on. It’s what God wants you to do. He wants you to keep your eyes on Him. for the Lord will give you understanding in everything. The reason why Jesus tells us not to be anxious is because the Father cares for us. He has your back and will help you through anything, All you have to do is Repent and have Faith. The Bible teaches that God's sovereignty is an essential aspect of who He is, that He has supreme authority and absolute power over all things. There is nothing that God is not in control of. Everything that happens, God either causes to happen or He allows it to happen. However, Everything God does is done in love. There is always some reason for it, and for those who love God and are called according to His purpose, He will work everything out for good. Ultimately, the enemies we face, are not people or objects. It is not our body, It is not physical enemy. We know we don't want to die because dying bodies always end up fighting to survive. Our battle is indeed spiritual, In each of those cases, We can choose to fight the wrong battles, or we can rest knowing God is fighting for us. We fight this war by daily putting on the whole armor of God, always praying, standing firm in the Word of God, and staying alert. We need to live each day guided by an eternal perspective. so rest in knowing that when you keep holding on, you will see that in your weakness, God will be your Strength. John 14:27 "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."
Depression is a way to tell us or I should say that our « conscience » is telling us that we are not on the right path and that we are not fallowing our heart, we have to dig deep and deeper to find it! My conscience is waking me up every night at 2:am just to tell me that I drink a little to much and I didn’t do the things I should have done to make my life better. Try not to take medication so that you find what the meaning is good luck!
People with depression mostly need a mentor. Knowledge of how to get out of a hole. Someone to show them. You wont get that from doctors and therapy. You'll get alot of talk like this video.
Today the mushroom compound is being used in clinical trials for end of life anxiety,treatment-resistant depression,addiction,eating disorders and other condition with unprecedented success,and psilocybin-assisted therapy has been given FDA breakthrough therapy status as a treatment for depression
I think the biggest problem is that our medical system doesn't work on the Spiritual part of our three part ( human-beings ). As science has found recently, our thoughts do change the agenda of test results. We are not just machines, a pint low on oil. I'm reminded that the Spirit can teach the Mind that will take care of the Body. Doctors shouldn't just shut down the Spiritual factor, just because they don't understand it yet. We know of millions of miracles that continue to happen each and every day worldwide. I respect your work and how important it truly is, but the spiritual factor need it's place in our medical system. Yes, a great number of people's depression dose vanish when the spiritual problems are solved mentally. There's also the true miracle storyline that are truly true, but I guess will likely leave that for another day... Great topic and thanks for sharing your work, It's just that important.
So glad you're aware of that and making other aware of it too. The spiritual component is key. I still don't understand it very well, if at all, but I know it plays a huge part in depression.
or methodological materialism has led to the scientific method and we now actually have progress on depression. nothing wrong with spirituality...just no good for medicine
AE! Automation Group. I agree. God made us spirit being and getting in harmony helps tremendously. I am a walking miracle. I just told my primary. Yes, miracles happen everyday but we must be in tune. Even having contact with someone who is able to help you with a problem is heaven sent. I agree with you.
I used to be highly intelligent and now I’m a complete moron because of severe depression and anxiety. I make careless mistakes and can hardly listen and retain information I can hardly sleep and when I do sleep I wake up constantly or am not able to fall back asleep which makes matters much worse. I average about 4 hours of very light sleep. To make matters worse, my managers at my workplace constantly insult me and talk down to me like the moron I am now. It bothers me because I know if I started to become happier and things “finally” started going my way in life, my brain would heal and I would prove to them that they in fact are the morons.
That's an amazing breakthrough in the study! Now can we find a way that doesn't involve sticking copper wire into my brain? Lol not too fond of that idea for multiple reasons
anyone else struggle for half an hour + every morning to convince yourself to get up and brush your teeth? just walking to the sink is, well, painful. every simple task is daunting. everything hurts. everything. my brain is broken.
Jillian Brunelli yep.
YUP
Jillian Brunelli yes that s me. And i badly need this.
More like 3-4 hours.
Yes...same here. Everything is just exhausting. You're not alone.
As someone who has spent a significant amount of my life in a state of depression, I am SO relieved to hear her acknowledge some people cannot talk themselves out of it. My childhood was fine, thank you. My parents were (and are) patient, caring, loving people. Nobody abused me. Yet the feeling of joy or even contentment eluded me. I was/am lucky as a combination of medications eventually worked. I still have some very difficult days but compared to where I have been I am exponentially better. My doctor of many years summed it up well when she said "Gary, you could talk and talk and talk all day. It would make no difference. This is about chemicals in your brain. For some reason they don't work well so let's help your brain and fix it." It took a while, but we did.
I always ask myself how I let myself get to this point. I grew up the same way. I have a great family that I tend to isolate myself from. Lost in my own thoughts. Even with people in the room it feels empty. I kind of just shut down. I feel awful they don't deserve to have to go through my bad days. My husband always tells me I have a chemical imbalance in my brain. Go take my meds and change my mood. Only if it worked liked that. For the past 20 plus years it's been up and down with the medication. I am glad you have found something that works.
@@Christina-vd4sv I still have plenty of difficult days. My ex has told me "you always spent an enormous amount of time just coping." I realize that is true. One thing I always wonder and ask is what am I supposed to learn or teach from this. I hope my sharing of my story will help even one other person.
to me that's scary. i want to talk my way out of this but i'm starting to think that might actually not be possible
@@jamess2928 sometimes antidepressants can help and you don't have to take them forever. It might be worth talking to your doctor about.
@@garypederson2767 i'm going to wait until i'm 18 (less than a month away) and then try to get help. i know i need to. it's reassuring that i won't have to take them forever but i'm still apprehensive medicating myself because of my mental health but maybe that's irrational
It's people like Dr. Helen Mayberg who will revolutionize neuropsychiatry. I just want them to keep being so patient and persistent!
You know what is totally amazing? Every person with depression who is commenting has a greatly elevated ability to communicate clearly and even to spell!!! Most comment sections on TH-cam are loaded with illiterate comments that you can barely understand. Kind of interesting.
Linda Keene I’m glad you said that. A lot of people don’t understand that most mentally ill people are very intelligent. Most of my uncles have 2-3 degrees a piece, yet they were schizophrenic. The brain is just so amazing.
I v noticed that too.
funny, eh?
there is an andrew solomon ted talk on the brain/ dep which elucidates how depressed people see more clearly than non-deps! thats research baby...
I suspect that is a little causative and not just correlational. As Dr. Mayberg noted, depression causes people to operate somewhat slower than the normative population, which includes written/typed communication. That gives us more time to ensure that words are spelled correctly and to edit our response. Since it requires more neurological exertion of us, when we make the effort, we want it to mean something. I'd hate to put 15 minutes into a response only to have someone prove to me that I write like a 5-year-old on acid.
This is an extraordinary presentation. It explains so much about the void, the pit of negativity. When I experienced a major acute depressive episode, I could not imagine ever returning to a normal life. At the time, I had a friend who demanded that I call her, that I tell her about my depression, etc. She could not and would not accept that her needs were not part of my recovery. As expected, she began exhibiting anger. As I recovered with psychotherapy and anti-depressants, I saw the toxicity of this relationship for what it was and, this is a huge gift from the process, ended the relationship. Many depressed people recount similar stories.
When I was in my deepest depression, I had a dream one night that I died from an explosion and when I woke up I was so disappointed that I woke up. I was really DEEPLY disappointed that I had to wake up.
I feel ya
When I met with an accident I was so upset to find out I am alive. Instead I got torn Acl.
Similar. I love dreams that death is touching me... Then I wake up
I understand you. All I'm going to do is send you a big hug.
❤
I'm 62 and I've lived with it all my life. People who don't have it can't understand how much hope something like this brings into our lives. Depression has been like being wrapped in a rotting shroud all my life and I've lived through a number of suicide attempts just to try to escape the pain. I've cut myself to try to let some of the pain out, or at least be able to see pain when I bleed. It hurts in a way you can never explain to someone who doesn't have it. 'Where?' they ask. Depending on when they ask, it's everywhere. Or sometimes you manage to get 'I don't know' through the tears. They could do this to me tonight because each day I lose more and more strength to fight.
Bless your sweet heart. I get it. You're not alone.
I am 50, from Easy Europe. I got rid of depression 25 years ago! Thanks to body psychotherapy. Check their web site of "European Association for Body Psychotherapy".
What do you do for a living? Dont tell us you gave up and stay home all day? Dont do that. Life is hard. Who said it was going to be easy?
Ur not alone o beautiful soul, my soul as comrades in arms fights with you the same demons.
Ok. So what have you done all these years to fix the problem? Are you married? Im sure you worked all these years. What do you do?
that was the most engaging, inspiring thing I’ve ever watched. It was both revolutionary and compassionate - I’ve had depression for nine years so far and nothing has ever given me more hope (even though I currently feel hopeless). I truly hope she can inspire the next generation to further this ethos 🤍
hai, i know things going hard, but believe that everything gonna be okay, hope you get well soon....
try to be mote accepting live, and let it go....
@Peanuts76 you had it, then had to say that last sentence.. 🤦♀️
What a different world this would be if more people had this woman's compassion. On a suicide forum I used to visit, the main thing people were unhappy with was the selfishness of society in general.
I used to love, laugh, play, I was active, I was always seeking knowledge, I was alive. and now look at me a dead soul with a dead heart and a broken brain who feel hopeless and who can't even tell his parents because he's too deep that he can't find words to express how he's feeling and who is tired to just explain to your parents why you're depressed.
Dear Hamza, you really need to speak with your parents, or somebody who loves you the most! My opinion, our parents love us the most! God bless you, and I hope soon you ll be well and happy again! Best and healthy wishes!
I am sorry.. I understand you
Are you able to work ..?
One gratitude is you have parents.🙏
Simply hearing other's voices and comments, lets me know I am not alone. We are all struggling together, in unison, hoping for compassion where there is none, and understanding when there is only criticism. How much longer, is the question each and every day.
I hear you...
It's the second time I listened to her work, still so beautiful and amazing! Thank you Dr. Mayberg, it's people like you that makes the world into a better place and bring lights back to life
People Don’t Want to
Kill Themselves They Just Don’t Know How to Kill the Pain!!!!!!!!!
Every Thunderstorm
Runs Out of Rain!!!!!!
I totally agree with you! I don't want to die, I just don't want to deal with my mental health issues anymore! It's all too hard, too exhausting, too painful, too hard
Or they don't know how to live.
@@jizheng1224 Scars on the mind far exseed the scars of the flesh.
@@NewellDaugherty-wu2su Absolutely, that's why verbal abuse leaves longer devastating damage in a person's life.
@@vannessamillar1253 It is totally exhausting. I hope you get better I am struggling hard myself. Sending LOVE friend.
One of THE BEST Ted talks I've seen on depression! Not only looking into methods for treatment resistant depression, but also listening to the person being treated and not just another case number! I've been dealing with depression for over 20 years and tried all different meds...and they either have me sleep 12-14hrs a day or really bad side effects. Because nothing worked I couldn't keep a job and ended up on disability. I've been using a more natural approach and going to counseling which help some, just not enough to get my life back. This sounds promising and would love to learn more. Thank You Dr Mayberg!
If you have enough stress and worry over a long period of time then it can tip over in to depression. Because being stressed and not at ease day in day out for years and years will exhaust a persons adrenal gland and depletes the feel good chemicals in their brains too. If someone is carrying around feelings of guilt and shame and self loathing, then these emotions can also trigger a depression. Enough worry and stress will cause a big depression. I believe there are always reasons people are depressed. Even if some arent conscious of it.
That happened to me last year. Was under a lot of work stress and got hit with major depression and anxiety
Gustavo Gomes the same here. Now I have major anxiety symptoms. I have to get out of this hole!
justmadeit2 i agree with you.long term stress and traumatic experiences. Do augment the severety of depression.but some people also just happen to carry depression since they were born .and i happend to be one of them.
Absoutly i was in a daily Stress and fear as a child because of my parent. I would be abused eather verbaly or phisicly for a slitest mistake.wich made me develope severe type of social anxiety and chronic depression.
GLUTAMATE GLUTAMATE me too, damage too deep to undo, sorry to be negative but that’s how I feel & have surmised from videos. Yeah, depression from childhood trauma is different than getting down after losing a job. I can’t remember a time not being depressed. I don’t think ppl understand the difference.
Great... I wish there are more doctors like her and more research will be done for mapping the brain network for mental illness so that brain scan for mental illness is as common as MRI for bone\join injury. Anxiety and depression is a disease that doesn't get enough focus. Except for Pharmaceutical companies, who spent millions into drugs that make them billions. Psychiatrists who prescribed them by trials and errors. There is no diagnosis they recommend or use to determine what is the proper treatments. Brain scan should be a regular process that is used to treat brain illness, the same as people getting MRI or XRAY for bone\joint injuries.
I lose my appetite,insomnia,irritability,paranoia,aggression,isolation...and the opposite overeating,sleep,hyper,emotional....
same.for 3 years now
How do you go to work everyday? Life is hard. But you still have to work.
Dam...! I have all those you mentioned too.. I hate living now. I lost everything,... and can't function normal. I'm mentally paralyzed.. with no desires, no will... just fear, and unable to leave the apt. Can socialize at all. How do you go on? I know you're post is from year's ago...... have you been able to recover?.. I hope you have. I can't live like this.. 😢🫶
I'm so broken I can't be fixed. I'm taking the meds and going to therapy, but it feels like going through the motions. I'm so tired of waiting for the fog to lift.
You're not alone. I feel the same way.
Don't give up❤
Peter Northrup you must be fun at party's
Lance Bowman: how are you now? I ask because I’m in the same situation as you were. My therapist told me she can’t help me, that I’m too far gone, too many things wrong with me, and my only option is to commit myself in an inpatient facility. But I’m not doing that.
@@bryanw5951 your therapist should have told you that SHE was not equipped to help you, but someone else would be. You are not too far gone: she's not equipped with the skills necessary to help you.
It is very much a nightmarish state of darkness and weight. This video really struck a cord with its descriptions. For me it's a heavy, suffocating, dark fog that makes every thought, activity, movement etc. feel like an impossible feat. Like trying to keep your head above water with 300 lbs of chains and weights strapped all over your body. The inability to focus mentally but also weirdly even visually. I'd find myself staring off into nothing for who knows how long, and getting terrible headaches from the eye strain of not blinking for long periods. Hypersomnia (as opposed to insomnia) is the symptom that has the most immediate effect on my day to day life. At some points I'm sleeping 16-18 hrs a day and even when I'm awake I only get up to use the bathroom or eat.
I can't even bring myself to shower or comb my hair for weeks at a time. I used to take such pride in my hair and in this state I've had several occasions (on days with a modicum of improvement) where I have to spend hours trying to work out the matted hair at the back of my head from so much time spent laying down. After 5+ years of this nightmare I don't think I'm ever going to truly get better. I think about suicide constantly but can't even find the strength, energy, and motivation to end this.
This explains it perfectly.
I hope you are doing better and have the right support x
TheClassics4me oh my god. I could have written all this my self.that s exactly what i m going throu for years and years now.
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Sounds like to me that nazis have got a hold of you. They are spreading chemicals all over the world in an attempt to make us so sick that we die, not that death is for real.
Your nightmarish state is caused by the way you think. You believe in death, so have given up. What is the use? you say. These nazis have been putting fluoride in the drinking water for many years to drug people. Fluoride is a toxic waste that keeps people in a zombie like state. Then they don't resist. Super large frequency towers are being built to control us. Chemtrails dry out the air. Fukushima was bombed on purpose by these nazis so that the radiation would make us sick and then kill us. These nazis are psychopaths that want to make lots of money on our sickness before we die.
You are down to begin with because death is being marketed as being for real. Death makes these nazis a lot of money. Prisons are for profit just like wars and drugs. But our thoughts are stronger. You could see yourself as an eternal energy being able to overcome all these chemicals because we consist of 7 billion billion billion atoms, each one spinning and vibrating so super fast that death is not possible. We are constantly being created as eternal, powerful energy and light beings or holograms that chemicals can not hurt. But it takes imagery to make that true.
See the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan to find more details.
Did u find a way out? Its almost one year.
62 yrs old here. PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder, anxiety and depression are my life. The pain is utterly unbearable. One suicide attempt. Trying not to leave a legacy of parental suicide. Sober x 10 yrs. The pain of depression is like living in a vast bleak wasteland where dread and guilt choke the life outta you. No connection to daily events in any meaningful manner. I am weary.
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Hi, I am called 63 on my birth certificate, but I know myself to be eternal energy.
I was hated as a child, too. I hate being around sarcastic people that are aiming it at me. That is my PTSD. I am stressed about being on earth and the lack of help. Been anti social my whole life since the age of 8. Wasn't until my late 20's that I found the right books that say we are eternal energy beings. Then my wasteland of dread and guilt went away, mostly.
One book is "Hands of Light" written by the NASA physicist Barbara Brennan.
I found out that thoughts are imagery and we are holograms. That is quantum physics. Every thought is a picture that changes the body. We are chameleons that change constantly with these pictures. I can see little bumps come up on my skin when I get stressed now. I know the cause right away because I know what I am thinking is changing my body.
I have healed myself several times really fast just by changing my thoughts. I have felt energy flow in to me and out of me in healing ways. There are many books that teach imagery as healer. We are perfect to begin with. Keep a picture of yourself as always perfect energy.
@@pureenergy5051 that is so hard
@@Gainerone
What part is hard?
@@pureenergy5051 keeping a picture of yourself as always perfect energy, is hard, my friend.
@@Gainerone
It is hard if it is not exciting. Finding out you are spinning and pulsating as 7 billion billion billion atoms of light all at the same time should be real exciting. You now know something nobody else talks about that I know of. Each atom is electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. This is what physicists say. Light is the short term. We are immersed in and saturated with a unified field of electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. Without it, electricity and everything else would not exist. Without it, static electricity would not happen. This field is what people call God.
This electricity is the mind of God. This God is a gestalt of energy, a holodeck so immense that from this dimension it would take LSD to see it. When we leave these bodies we pop out into a dimension that is more like a LSD trip. Some people have learned to do this on purpose. These are called OBEs. Out of body experiences. Nothing, no ideas, are stable like they are here.
An immense focus is needed so that waves of light and energy form into what we are. We are the result of a tremendous focus that is kept by our souls. We are personalities of our souls, which really exist as huge beings of electrical magnetic energy field vibrations. Otherwise, where is the information coming from that these quarks bring as they burst forth spinning billions of times a second forming us? These quarks are actually tetrahadrons or triangles that spin real fast. And these triangles are like fractals that form us. So we fit together like puzzles.
I have read all of this in books.
This video gives me some hope again. Thanks for this and the work that is undertaken by Dr. Helen Mayberg. I try to be as transparent as possible with everyone around me cause I can't stand hiding and feel guilty even worthless all the time. As everyone says, no one who had such experiences will truly understand this constant state of hopeless and being emotionally dead. So with 95% of people I talk to, I still feel guilty that something's wrong with me... that I'm not "normal" and not strong as they are to simply think positive. BUT those 5% help me to feel "some sort of" Okay. To feel I'm accepted OR that my disease is accepted. If I wouldn't fight myself, again and again, to overcome and be transparent to everyone (even at or even more: especially at work), I would feel 100% worthless instead of only 95%. I highly encourage everyone suffering from depression (directly or indirectly) to not make a secret out of it. It helps you to better understand yourself and it helps to grow this little 5% through awareness and understanding and the need for help.
Watching a lot of these talks/lectures on depression has resonated with me deeply. Especially coming out of the throes of depressive episodes but stumbling into one and not being able to get back up to surface, months and years of complete nothingness and monotony. I would always be able to get past those periods of immense apathy and agony but when I was 18 I fell into this never ending descent and for nearly several years it has exponentially gotten worse, festering, eating away at any remnants of a person and identity I had left. I’ve tried almost every medication, and am incompatible with ssris. It’s frustrating because you believe what you’re seeing and how your perceiving things to be the TRUTH that no one else sees, that it’s clarity and not the depression permeating and infiltrating your mind.
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read the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan. She has proven that death is a lie and that we are holograms. Actually E=mc2 proved that. This has always been true, but is not taught in schools and hospitals because there are trillionaire bankers that are a mafia that want us sick and lost and depressed. You can find this information online in youtubes like "The Corporation" and "Murder by Injection" by Mullins. Mullins wrote a lot of books about the info he found out regarding the federal reserve. This is a private organization created by bankers in 1913 for the reason of constantly taking the money of the American people in the form of taxes and interests. When these bankers fail banks on purpose, they are hoping that people will then have to borrow money, which will make the bankers trillions of dollars on the interests paid. 9/11 was caused on purpose by these bankers so that they could incite the people to go to other countries to kill the people there and then to take their resources. When an incident like this is caused on purpose as entry into a war, then it is called a false flag. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor and the one that started Vietnam were all false flags. The bombing of Fukushima on purpose with HAARP was a false flag. Depressions and recessions are on purpose. These bankers are psychopathic murderers.
I was severely abused and bullied as a child, so I know what harsh depression feels like. I was not able to change until I started reading books.
Sounds to me that when you turned 18 you woke up and realized mommy and daddy were not going to take care of you anymore. How did that work for you?
Extraordinary, I deeply enjoyed this insight and think that integrating the neuropsychology of a human into the identification, understanding, and resolution of mental illness is truly essential, first-person perspective should be the starting point of any therapy.
I've said this for most 9f my life. I've been medicated and medicated! I am done being a zombie that feels the same pain.
I still feel the same. It never gets better. I believe that mapping is crucial. I am so over insurance not covering what will help us tremendously. I am on social security and can barely afford to live. I am saving for a brain scan. I know this will change my life. I am ready to live a life of hope and unafraid. Thankyou for coming into my algorithm and giving me hope for the future. I feel like a prisoner inside my head. It's no way to live. Where do I go next?
Hope you have gotten better?
... 🙏
She seems like an amazing doctor.
this is one of the most important videos on depression i have ever seen
so you haven´t seen many of them, pal. This treatment" is INNEFFECTIVE and misleading...
@@tuicastro4431 , why did you have it done?
Depression to me is like someone imagining something in my head while forcing me to look/listen to it, its always there
I hope you will recover soon 💞💞💞💞💞
sign me up. cannot be worse than "living" this way.
I said ok in the procedure room to put in three cardiac stents. Then I regretted doing it extremely! I have been feeling so bad, and so helpless since then !
this is a very hopeful video and i appreciate that a lot
(Kind aspect to be allow in acknowledging(unaware bridge of element))
Not feeling any feeling at all is the scariest, I literally have no feelings except for my kids.
I have been thru this for over a year and changing meds.
How can they say if 50 percent improves then that's success??
I wouldn't want those odds with any other disease.
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The dis-ease is the belief in death. And death is a lie. We are holograms or eternal energy beings proven by quantum physics a long time ago. One book to find details of this in: "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan.
I’d like to conduct a case study about juggling, exercise & nutrition. I have had and may still have minor PTSD.
Very clear explanation! Thank you!
My experience is emotional deterioration and trauma,im analytical and believe this about myself
Depression has destroyed EVERYTHING in my life! My life is just about over now. My only wish is to speed up Death!
As long as there is Life there is Hope. Even if you don't feel it. Even so, I feel like you describe here too.
My favorite part of the day is when I go to bed. Because life is too much when I'm awake.
Life is very hard. Nobody said it was going to be easy. I really feel for these folks. Its hard to get up each day and fight. Because life is a fight. I wish well to all.
I am 72 years old and have had depression nearly all my life in my memory. For a while I was able to get therapy, try different medication etc. Now I am not able to even get my medicine. I live alone and have no family members that I can ask for help. I live day to day and hope I don't fall in that trap.
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May God be always with you to ease any pain and difficulty! Amin! God bless you! I hope you ll find a good soul to take care of you.
Pray a lot,....and there's help out there....find it
I’m going into my 7th year of feeling depressed. I can’t say I have anything since I never got a diagnosis. I tried every cope I could. It’s to the point where if medication and therapy doesn’t work, there’s nothing else for me to do but suffer. I’m only developing more problems. I don’t even want help at this point. I want to just end it
@SoundWeeb Undying I've felt depression, anxiety, self loathing, a total abyss for at least 15 years got the best of me, until I snapped and wound up in the hospital. I just never had courage to ask for help, until I simply couldn't take it. Don't go that route, please, it's horrible. No one deserves this, try to seek help, speak up to someone you trust that you're not well, anything. It's not going to miraculously solve everything (I'm on meds for over 2 years now, switching along the way to see what helps more) last year started therapy.. It's still a struggle but at least I feel like I'm doing something, you know? I hope you find peace within as well, stay strong!
Claudia Eira as much as I’d like to get help, I just cant afford everything while feeling financially safe. And I just don’t see any worth in getting help. I can barley even understand any of my problems to the point where I feel like I’m faking it
@@scrappyundying5745 sounds like depression
This was a fantastically informative video! I think I'll be sending it to my employer as a the representation of how I see my depression. It's not like I think psychology and life balance etc don't play a role in any depression but I know in my case the onset was so sudden after a flare-up of an autoimmune disorder it left little doubt it was 'mostly' a biological/medical issue.
That's why I'd like to point out pretty much the only statement I disagree with in this whole lecture.
At 2:13 where she says "...when the brain fails to be able to adapt to circumstance to the situation; when it breaks."
It's not like what she said is untrue, it more that that delivery doesn't help the current stigma (y'know while she's working on a golden treatment - but still).
It would be like saying people get colds because their immune system breaks down...and even that isn't as bad because if there's one thing we're all supposed to have control over is our mind.
Jeepers! Really sorry to hear that Deb.
Those are terrible feelings to have and I know from experience. You're not alone though.
Have you sat with your family doctor yet to explain what's going on?
Good
I got into real problems because i became over obsessed about being obsessed about emotional weakness and acceptance of feelings
I just want to have motivation again like desperately want to have motivation i dont wanna be exhausted cleaning my room
the frustrating part about videos like these is they dont tell you HOW to access the help they describe! where can i get this DBS? how to i find it?! not knowing makes me feel hopeless than before i watched the video
Let's Google Dr Helen Mayberg
I honestly think of taking my own life about two times a minute everyday all day for years fortunately I have people who love me still here and I could never anguish them to that degree but if these demons still exist after they're gone, that's when I will take control of my own fate.
I recommend you take psychedelic mushroom it’s the best to cure depression, I was depressed a while back but after I used magic mushroom it cured my negative thoughts and gave me the truth in my situation making me understand and be happy , I get mine from an online vendor that specializes in the growth of psychedelic products
*Formulah11*
I hope you will recover soon 💞💞💞💞💞
Can you help me. No else seems to be able to and I’m struggling to keep myself here anymore. I have 5 mental illnesses and it’s like taking care of 5 toddlers that destroy everything and are just menaces to society. It’s getting way too damn hard to live. I’m in so much pain and idk wtf to do
I recommend you take psychedelic mushroom it’s the best to cure depression, I was depressed a while back but after I used magic mushroom it cured my negative thoughts and gave me the truth in my situation making me understand and be happy , I get mine from an online vendor that specializes in the growth of psychedelic products
*Formulah11*
I'm in a very similar situation now too.... and I can totally relate to what you've said. I'm so afraid if what's happening to me... and living is just torture. I freaked out so many times. It's like to me being mentally paralyzed. Unable to do anything, or go anywhere.!
😫😭..... how are you now? 🙏.. hoping you are OK?
I hope you will recover soon 💞💞💞💞💞
Looks like my severe Depression and Anhedonia is going to defeat me, as I’ve tried everything possible to get my life back.And DBS is still out of reach.
How are you doing now?
... I just watched this video.
Unfortunately,.. I had a traumatic life change, that annihilated me.. I couldn't handle. The Stress was too much, caused anxiety, insomnia and anhedonic depression.
I struggle hours to hour. I just can't explain this horror to anyone to understand.
Hope you are doing better?
Hi, it's me again. Still I'm suffering horribly with anhedonia... I've lost everything I had now. My health is bad. Still wondering if you were able to get well?...
Have you tried suicide?... I have, and made everything worse... I still hate this..!!
I hope you will recover soon 💞💞💞💞💞
Hello, my husband is suffering with MDD AND OCD FROM PAST 17 YEARS NOW MEDICINES ALSO STOPPED WORKING AS IT SUPPOSE TO WORK, IN THIS REGARDS WHAT SHOULD WE DO. KINDLY HELP ME
Thanks for sharing this amazing talk!
I don't even feel sad anymore. I just don't care. Just mulling through at this point. I'll eventually be done with it.
Hi. , how are you now? Better 🙏
... your comment explained how I feel.
I want this over!!
@@klanderkal Hi, I'm the same tbh.
Hope you're doing ok. Looks like you have two lovely children...that's something worth sticking around for.
Wanted to check back with you. Have you gotten better?.. I hope you were able 🙏
I'm suffering so badly. This depression is like quicksand... and I just hate myself and life. So much damage to myself ... Im more unable to do anything.... im so mentally paralyzed. I just want to end my life . I've gotten very close to doing it. ... I might not have to now... as I've become so ill,.. I look like I'm dying, and I still can't do anything about it.... 😢
I hope you will recover soon 💞💞💞💞💞
the one comment I can breath again , I with some who made very happy and that is exactly what said a number of times
When you reach and drink the last of your soda to find that it's really quenching because the ice melted and you realize how much you need hydrating.
When will this be available to patients? Nothing has worked for me.
I'm off the grid i'm lucky i'm still here and hanging on
This had to be the worst camera people on a Ted talk they where all over the place. Of staying on the diagram long enough viewing front the back of the room. Really did spoil this great talk for me. I’m in a depression and maybe that has something to do with it. I just want to get better, I want to stay out of bed and not wake up and dread having to get myself through another day and wishing it was all over. Depression sucks.
i what you people to read this>>>>>>>>>>yes a lot of times depression is in the brain and you can fix it a lot of times for people but some times depression is not just in the brain some times people r just broken on the inside of them some times its just in the inside the person they r broken in there soul this is what i call a broken soul and there r no meds and there r no pills in all the world that can fix r help a person that is just broken in there soul on the inside of them so some times depression is not just in the brain its just in the person just as its in me joeyHOPE
Joseph Moran 99.99% if you're depressed more than 3 weeks, it's the brain.
I would just like to know WHERE are these treatments and HOW can a common person with Medicare possibly afford them? That's great that they've found them but people are continuing to die from horrible mental healthcare in the US. I have treatment resistant major clinical depressive disorder and there are no answers after decades of trial and error. It took almost the last 2 years for me to find a new team of doctors, who take my insurance and are affordable along with prescribing the medications I needed to alleviate SOME issues. I could have died 5 times over. When opportunities like this come along it seems it's only beneficial for the wealthy. Because I guarantee it's cash pay when it comes to these treatments. That's what becomes so frustrating. Unless you have money you just suffer or die. No matter how much you advocate for yourself, and believe me advocating for yourself during a major depressive episode is such a conundrum, but no matter how much you still hit brick walls regarding whats afffforable and avalable.
Why dont you work? 99% of the people in the world are depressed. Life is hard. You one said it was going to be easy.
How are you now? Have you tried ketamine therapy for treatment resistant depression? There are .also trials on psychedelics...
Peter Northrup you have no idea what true depression is or you would not be making these hurtful comments.
@@peternorthrup6274 what's your problem with people working or not? A person with a mental issue is sick, just like a bad pneumonia that won't go away or whatever. . They need treatment and recovery, and sometimes can't work. No one needs your negativity. Be more empathetic. I've had to work many years in a terrible state of mental health just for fear of losing that job, because I desperately needed it, in which i ended up losing anyway! Ended with me in the hospital! So just don't assume things about people with mental illness ...
I have imagination about my death everytime I pray, and once every weeks I got suspended like my brain cant operate well, and waste at least 6 hours after I woke up from sleep for recover. Cannot remember any single name after 15 seconds, and Forgot every lecture that I got. also Anxious is my main problem when meets stranger (includes neighborhood)
recently I know that Im depressed because school bullying, my teacher and classmates did it to me. and for 13 years I grow up without realizing that Im depressed. I hope my God end my suffer soon, but I guess he aren't visit youtube right xD
thanks for reading
LOVE YOU brother
Good luck bud don't lose hope
useful in lack of concentration , low memory , exhaustion , stress, depression and anxiety planet ayuveda
I followed with everything until she mentioned modern lobotomy. No ma’am, I don’t want holes in my skull right now. I agree with your theory, motivations, and ultimate goal but I still side with non-evasive treatments.
I appreciate the great results from the patients. At least it worked well for them. Thanks, research & science.
Stephanie
Have you read the book "Hands of Light" written by the physicist Barbara Brennan? Her research has found the least evasive therapy I have ever read about. Some people call it reiki.
What do you guys call depression?
where can i get this and what does it cost? seriously
OMG, I've had Depression my whole life. I am now 72 and still having this paralysis.
Boost уоur brain рppowеr in 14 daуs? twitter.com/6b32c5ac996d61862/status/804578733948444672 Exаmining depression through the lens оf the brain Dr Helen Mаyberg TЕDхЕmory
Boost your brain powеr in 14 days? twitter.com/89afc252c2eba917f/status/822776974745550848 Exaamining deрression through theeee lens of the brain Dr Helen Mayberg TTTTEDxЕmoory
I have had depression all my life since the age of about 8. I found what she said about being fifty percent better ridiculous, as the scrappy bits of help you can get therapists always try to write you off as "better", a relative term where no change can be inflated. They are so desperate to say their worthless treatments, CBT or SSRI's or whatever, make the patient "better", so they can get rid of you and deny you, that they don't care if it is true or not. They have ways of extracting a non-denial by the patient that they feel "better", and most patients to some extent feel under pressure to say something nice about the therapist.
I'm on (what I now know is) my 2nd bout. Didn't get diagnosed for the first one but hindsight is 20/20.
This is a brilliant depiction of 1st person depression. I've used the "drowning" analogy from her list a hundred times. Also the feeling that a piece of myself/my brain broke off.
Love the optimism behind these potential future treatment options.
I hope this note finds you smiling Pat. Cheers :)
I agree. Psychiatry needs to be overhauled - these knuckleheads offer patients nothing. They earn a very comfortable living maintaining the status quo - passing out useless pills and therapies - keeping you coming back month after month and making you feel guilty if you aren't "getting better."
"Psychedelic Therapy" works better than Electro Convulsive Therapy ~ Prof David Nutt.
Oh how convenient for those that want an excuse for drugs.
I wonder where they’re at with this research 5 years later...
I was cured of severe depression by antibiotics meant for a sinus infection. So the cause of my depression was due to bad gut bacteria.
How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?
@@Luke-ih1oc My severe depression was caused by five foods I was eating. They gave me an anxious depression for three days. I avoided the five and never had depression again. Digestive problems were the first clue. One day I tried Splenda and it made me mildly depressed. Splenda messes up gut bacteria. So the second clue was that I had unbalanced gut flora. Yogurt as a gut remedy was out, as milk gave me severe depression. One day I just went to the doctor and told him I had a sinus infection. He gave me three courses of antibiotics. Antibiotics kill a lot of good bacteria, as well as bad bacteria. Turns out that it killed whatever bad bacteria was reacting to the proteins in these foods, causing inflammation. Incidentally, after the antiobiotics I craved yogurt like crazy, even though I hate yogurt. Sometimes out food cravings tell us something.
does anyone wonder why depression is so common in this country? we should try to get to the root causes of this debilitating and rampant condition, may be then something concrete can be done about it including prevention. such a sad and tragic phenomenon which seems to be on epidemic levels.
Reincarnation
Yeah I wish that was it.
It's a completely non functioning state, it's chemical.
Life in this country has become crazy about money, so commercialized. It's like a competition to have "the best." If people would stop and enjoy simple things like nature or do a job they have a passion for I think it would help people a little.
I once read somewhere that the Earth will change poles within a certain amount of hundred thousands of years, and they stated that it causes an overall depressional state the more we get close to that time. I don't know how true it is, but as much as season changes can affect some depressed people, and some with other illnesses too, it kinda makes sense. also, the current state of things doesn't help much. we must be strong and keep fighting and living for ourselves as best as we can.
Most depression starting with physically ill for a very long time. Struggling for body pain. Long going treatment and money spending with doubts when it is gonna end. I was at 50% better then become worse again. Sad part? Going through the negative experience so many times and knowing that you are having to go through again! No end. No matter how you have long for getting better. But nope.. no better. That is sad.
Fantastic!
I hope they can somehow develope a way to stimulate the same area in a non invasive method.
My experience might help some of you. I think I suffered from depression since my teenage age, until i was almost 30. I t was an agony, I tried to kill myself twice. There was not a minute jn my ljfe I haven't thought of suicide. I almoat got anorexic. Also had agression issues. I started having all types of halucinations, it was terrifying.I had a lot of traumas that happened to me, which I talked about to a psychologist.Someone took me to a doctor one day, the meds made me worse at first it was an agony of 2 months, then I was a bit better. But now I know I was still in a really bad shape. They've changed meds for me and dosages a lot of times, I've switched through 5 psychiatrists. Today is about a year and a half that I haven't thought of suicide. Compared to every minute of my life before. I can function now, I actually feel almost normal. I take meds regurarly, when I don't-in a week it starts getring really bad. So I avoid that. They finally found what suits me, and they plan on lowering the dosages. I feel like I like lost my 20s...I was so damaged. But now, today, I feel good. I dont overthink, I function at home at work, with a partner. If I can do it and truat me I was so damaged, I think everyone or almost everyone can be helped. Takes time, lots od prescriptions, psychologist conversations, a lot of WILL TO GET BETTER. And money yes, I disnt have money but I managed, cauae health is most important. So , what Im saying, you CAN get better truat me,it took me 5years but it worked. I get dopamine and serotonin btw. I am not a happy shallow person now, I just am now. Whereas before I couldnt function properly for even a day. Will is most important, even when it wasnt working I tried something else. You cant stop trying cause if you dont feel better it just means they havent found a way that suits YOU.
Jist push forward, you can actually lead a normal life.
Keep holding on to God. No matter what may be trying to keep you down, keep looking up to God. He will always be your hand in helping you get back up. We serve God who can do all things. Romans 8:31 tells us, “What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?” this means that no man, woman, boy or girl is a threat to the purpose God placed on the inside of you. This means that the Only way you experience defeat is when you surrender. In moments of worry and anxiety, we are called to bring our concerns before God in prayer. Instead of allowing anxiety to consume us, we can find peace and comfort in knowing that the Almighty God is attentive to our needs for He cares for us deeply. In the storms of life, God is our only hope. His faithfulness and His goodness are present Even during the darkest storm. we have a lot of growing up to do. we should continue to grow in our relationship with God, and there is no point where we can say we've "had enough" Jesus tells his followers not to worry about food, drink, clothing, or tomorrow, and instead to seek first God's kingdom and righteousness and He will give us everything we need. Give thanks and be appreciative of the small and big things that God is doing in your life. Doing that means that you are looking for God throughout your day. You’re looking for God in your situation. You’re looking for God in your struggles and your pains, and keeping your focus on God instead of focusing on all the bad that’s going on. It’s what God wants you to do. He wants you to keep your eyes on Him. for the Lord will give you understanding in everything. The reason why Jesus tells us not to be anxious is because the Father cares for us. He has your back and will help you through anything, All you have to do is Repent and have Faith. The Bible teaches that God's sovereignty is an essential aspect of who He is, that He has supreme authority and absolute power over all things. There is nothing that God is not in control of. Everything that happens, God either causes to happen or He allows it to happen. However, Everything God does is done in love. There is always some reason for it, and for those who love God and are called according to His purpose, He will work everything out for good. Ultimately, the enemies we face, are not people or objects. It is not our body, It is not physical enemy. We know we don't want to die because dying bodies always end up fighting to survive. Our battle is indeed spiritual, In each of those cases, We can choose to fight the wrong battles, or we can rest knowing God is fighting for us. We fight this war by daily putting on the whole armor of God, always praying, standing firm in the Word of God, and staying alert. We need to live each day guided by an eternal perspective. so rest in knowing that when you keep holding on, you will see that in your weakness, God will be your Strength.
John 14:27
"Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."
Great 👍🏾 lecture
Broad area 25 a magical place
I had been thinking, since I heard about neurogenesis, that neurologist need to study and treat depression more.
constant self loathing.....
You kidding?I've gotten to the point where, unless I have to work, take care of my animals and daughter, I'm not getting out of bed.
im broken 💔
We are heading into "A Brave New World." Hmmm. Okay, but be strong in ethics....
Sharon
The point of that book is to tell us there are no ethics as far as corporations are concerned.
Oh crap..i need brain surgery. I would do it.. even if I looked like a robot 💁
Depression is a way to tell us or I should say that our « conscience » is telling us that we are not on the right path and that we are not fallowing our heart, we have to dig deep and deeper to find it! My conscience is waking me up every night at 2:am just to tell me that I drink a little to much and I didn’t do the things I should have done to make my life better. Try not to take medication so that you find what the meaning is good luck!
Just completely wrong.
I can't shake the concept of nihilism. I don't think I could look at the world any other way tbh
numb and anxious at the same time it's not great
People with depression mostly need a mentor. Knowledge of how to get out of a hole. Someone to show them. You wont get that from doctors and therapy. You'll get alot of talk like this video.
Right. Maybe we should congregate and find sponsors like addicts💜
"I was pretty convinced I was going to die..." Welcome to mortality, bro.
I think I need to see a head doctor
Samuel Galdieri i think i need this.
Samuel
See the one called Barbara Brennan. She is a physicist that wrote the book "Hands of Light". The book costs $30 new.
I think i need the "head" nurse.😁
There sometimes only God can set you free!
What would you choose if you know what happenes to you in the end? 😊😞
- A depressed brain
I’m looking for deep brain stimulation please tell me how can do this sergery with you
Today the mushroom compound is being used in clinical trials for end of life anxiety,treatment-resistant depression,addiction,eating disorders and other condition with unprecedented success,and psilocybin-assisted therapy has been given FDA breakthrough therapy status as a treatment for depression
I think the biggest problem is that our medical system doesn't work on the Spiritual part of our three part ( human-beings ). As science has found recently, our thoughts do change the agenda of test results. We are not just machines, a pint low on oil. I'm reminded that the Spirit can teach the Mind that will take care of the Body. Doctors shouldn't just shut down the Spiritual factor, just because they don't understand it yet. We know of millions of miracles that continue to happen each and every day worldwide. I respect your work and how important it truly is, but the spiritual factor need it's place in our medical system. Yes, a great number of people's depression dose vanish when the spiritual problems are solved mentally. There's also the true miracle storyline that are truly true, but I guess will likely leave that for another day...
Great topic and thanks for sharing your work, It's just that important.
So glad you're aware of that and making other aware of it too. The spiritual component is key. I still don't understand it very well, if at all, but I know it plays a huge part in depression.
or methodological materialism has led to the scientific method and we now actually have progress on depression. nothing wrong with spirituality...just no good for medicine
AE! Automation Group. I agree. God made us spirit being and getting in harmony helps tremendously. I am a walking miracle. I just told my primary. Yes, miracles happen everyday but we must be in tune. Even having contact with someone who is able to help you with a problem is heaven sent. I agree with you.
Probably something in the God dimension ,but how,in God's name, does one access this dimension.?
@@marydoorley1287 That's an excellent question...perhaps we could collaborate in answering that
Good info 🙏🙏🙏🙏
and add in ADD..which is crippling.
I used to be highly intelligent and now I’m a complete moron because of severe depression and anxiety. I make careless mistakes and can hardly listen and retain information
I can hardly sleep and when I do sleep I wake up constantly or am not able to fall back asleep which makes matters much worse. I average about 4 hours of very light sleep.
To make matters worse, my managers at my workplace constantly insult me and talk down to
me like the moron I am now. It bothers me because I know if I started to become happier and things “finally” started going my way in life, my brain would heal and I would prove to them that they in fact are the morons.
Could i ask something?
WOW!!!!!!
Right now I rather feel like a dry husk of a person.
So your brain is doing x, y, z when it's depressed. Then what? Are we harboring beliefs that are destroying us?
Anyone else thinking I so want this done to me Wright now?.
15:04 creepy voice . Im clinically drepressed
Depression is a great thing i experience! 😂🤣😂In fact i love my depression so much! 😍✌
Regret looks behind, worry looks forward, faith looks up. Lift it up to God and let Him have your back.
Robert Tomko. Yes, we have a creator who cares about us
That's an amazing breakthrough in the study! Now can we find a way that doesn't involve sticking copper wire into my brain? Lol not too fond of that idea for multiple reasons
I think TMS does that.