I've been running mono lightning with Cloud, Ibara, and Charlotte, and have somehow amazingly yet to lose to the Jaylena combo. Charlotte's been great at tanking the blows for Cloud and Ibara to throw AoE attacks to clean up
How I reached gold despite those light teams : Moore (invulnerable to magic attacks) / Jeume (with Demon Wall) / S.Elsirelle (with SPR passive and SPR items / mainly for Healing power down and guaranteed hit LB)
For Jayden/Elena, I like to use Bloody Moon as an Esper for all the accuracy, magic and Spirit nods. Pair that with the accuracy glasses and you have pretty accurate mage. I have over 100 accuracy with my Golbez with that setup!
Having good success with Moore, Leela, and Jeume high accuracy vs light with one caveat. If they push early I cannot get necessary buffs online and still lose. Have to have that strong front line force to cover Moore. I keep getting wrecked by the lightning comp (Cloud/Ibara/Charlotte). I guess you can't build counters for every element, so you roll the dice with the rest.
Accurate. That map is like the perfect storm for light meta. Small, easy for Jayden to reach basically anyone, not a lot of time to set up buffs like accuracy or prot/shell. You might luck out of a few light fights but it's such a frustrating uphill battle.
@@Logia1978 we talk abut global and how light meta have not change for long time now Elena is just broken and i don't think they make counter to here yet and right now dark can't win light in global
Bruiser Tifa might be your best "wind tank" option....set her up for defense, put her in the front, paladin sub with taunting blade/sentinel/saintly wall. You lose out on the courage but at least you get some tankiness out of it to allow Moore and HLL to do some work.
I'm all for a good magic tank taking on the light meta. I'm at Gold 2, been using the lightening big 3, going against the light wall was pretty easy. Here's the thing, people are all hyped up using Jeume going against light evade because of her guarantee hit. But a tank is a tank who should be tanking. More damage means less tankiness and vice versa. Apart from Espers, wind VCs don't hold too much defense going against light: 20 single res (Tifa's), 20 mag def (Ahriman), 35% luck 8 SPR (2B's), none of these are that effective going against magic slash from Elena or magic shooter from Jayden, and they both have hard hitting AOEs. Looking at lightening, 20 AOE res (Ibara's), 20 slash res (Cloud's) with Aigaion's ACC and HP booster. Charlotte doesn't have to hit, her skill can imperil, her LB usually released at turn 2 can tank, then Cloud and Ibara just one shot/chain down everyone. Especially for this map, it's shorter which means at maximum 2 buffs before hitting, which gives lightening even more advantages. The only way light can win over lightening is by some keen blade shenanigan.
Obviously a magic tank is needed against Jayden if you don't have Wind Moore. (I am at Gold3. I used Charlotte and wind Moore against Jayden and it worked well.)
You really need a tank against jayden cause of his range. Charlotte is probably the best choice, rain is ok but he is pretty slow and harder to splash in rainbow teams. Mono wind and lightning can easily win against light with the right setup. I know pickup matches are over but this still applies to GB.
in last 3 day of pike up match all my match vs Elena it kind boring all my lost vs Elena i can win some of them but that full build damn she broken and every one just spam here there
I know that this is like, unrelated (being about TFS and not WOTV) but since it's Season 2 - is it just me or is the Flare Launcher really, really terrible. Completely unusable in fact. The unique weapon is actually the worst thing you can get from bahamut chests.
Why not use Jeume? She destroys Elena and Jayden with her guaranteed hit AOE attack and sets up HLeela for chain. I believe you have Jeume as a wind main 😂. Edit: I am surprised you didn't go for Jeune 😂. I think Engelbert can withstand Elena and Jayden really well with light ring. Leela turning off Heals and Full Life might be very good in this very short map.
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Elena + BRH is really OP on that mini map
I've been running mono lightning with Cloud, Ibara, and Charlotte, and have somehow amazingly yet to lose to the Jaylena combo. Charlotte's been great at tanking the blows for Cloud and Ibara to throw AoE attacks to clean up
How I reached gold despite those light teams : Moore (invulnerable to magic attacks) / Jeume (with Demon Wall) / S.Elsirelle (with SPR passive and SPR items / mainly for Healing power down and guaranteed hit LB)
too much Courage and Raise in Light 😵💫 i just enjoy when Noctis' trick works
For Jayden/Elena, I like to use Bloody Moon as an Esper for all the accuracy, magic and Spirit nods. Pair that with the accuracy glasses and you have pretty accurate mage. I have over 100 accuracy with my Golbez with that setup!
Having good success with Moore, Leela, and Jeume high accuracy vs light with one caveat. If they push early I cannot get necessary buffs online and still lose. Have to have that strong front line force to cover Moore. I keep getting wrecked by the lightning comp (Cloud/Ibara/Charlotte). I guess you can't build counters for every element, so you roll the dice with the rest.
The best way to beat Elena and Jayden is to have a better Elena and Jayden.
Accurate. That map is like the perfect storm for light meta. Small, easy for Jayden to reach basically anyone, not a lot of time to set up buffs like accuracy or prot/shell. You might luck out of a few light fights but it's such a frustrating uphill battle.
that so sad but it true and people like me who don't own elena rip :(
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but meta changes... i had more problems with Helena and Duane....
@@Logia1978 we talk abut global and how light meta have not change for long time now Elena is just broken and i don't think they make counter to here yet and right now dark can't win light in global
@@SirSaif93 yea, Unless you can get a 160+ evasion Dark team with 500+ luck on both units?
Elena will 1 shot all of them, every single time.
Bruiser Tifa might be your best "wind tank" option....set her up for defense, put her in the front, paladin sub with taunting blade/sentinel/saintly wall. You lose out on the courage but at least you get some tankiness out of it to allow Moore and HLL to do some work.
Its weird that light meta is troubling the quickpick matches. Its troubling the limited guild war much more than in a short arena like quickpick.
I've had some minor success vs the light meta with a tanky Golbez with Dragoon helmet and demon wall esper lately.
I'm all for a good magic tank taking on the light meta. I'm at Gold 2, been using the lightening big 3, going against the light wall was pretty easy. Here's the thing, people are all hyped up using Jeume going against light evade because of her guarantee hit. But a tank is a tank who should be tanking. More damage means less tankiness and vice versa. Apart from Espers, wind VCs don't hold too much defense going against light: 20 single res (Tifa's), 20 mag def (Ahriman), 35% luck 8 SPR (2B's), none of these are that effective going against magic slash from Elena or magic shooter from Jayden, and they both have hard hitting AOEs. Looking at lightening, 20 AOE res (Ibara's), 20 slash res (Cloud's) with Aigaion's ACC and HP booster. Charlotte doesn't have to hit, her skill can imperil, her LB usually released at turn 2 can tank, then Cloud and Ibara just one shot/chain down everyone. Especially for this map, it's shorter which means at maximum 2 buffs before hitting, which gives lightening even more advantages. The only way light can win over lightening is by some keen blade shenanigan.
No1 should activate AOE buffs of Elena in such a small map like this. If she uses AOE buff she will miss using courage most of the time.
Obviously a magic tank is needed against Jayden if you don't have Wind Moore. (I am at Gold3. I used Charlotte and wind Moore against Jayden and it worked well.)
You really need a tank against jayden cause of his range. Charlotte is probably the best choice, rain is ok but he is pretty slow and harder to splash in rainbow teams. Mono wind and lightning can easily win against light with the right setup. I know pickup matches are over but this still applies to GB.
in last 3 day of pike up match all my match vs Elena it kind boring all my lost vs Elena i can win some of them but that full build damn she broken and every one just spam here there
I know that this is like, unrelated (being about TFS and not WOTV) but since it's Season 2 - is it just me or is the Flare Launcher really, really terrible. Completely unusable in fact. The unique weapon is actually the worst thing you can get from bahamut chests.
Why not use Jeume? She destroys Elena and Jayden with her guaranteed hit AOE attack and sets up HLeela for chain. I believe you have Jeume as a wind main 😂. Edit: I am surprised you didn't go for Jeune 😂. I think Engelbert can withstand Elena and Jayden really well with light ring. Leela turning off Heals and Full Life might be very good in this very short map.
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