When I was building my first studio the MC303 was already out and the MC505 was just being released. The MC909 looks like a beast of a machine for the early 2000's. The other two were after the mid 90's and into the late 90's.
This thing is still the king of grooveboxes even 20 years later. The depth is endless if you go into the synth engine and it’s high price is well justified.
Its workflow is a little stiff and workstation-ish but in a lot of ways (like making a damn patch) this thing eats the MC-707 for breakfast. If you make any other videos, you should show off its realtime stuff like the Tempo/BPM slider and uh...D-Beams. I've never seen another machine that lets you play the input with the keys AND ACTUALLY DETUNES IT IN REALTIME so you can play live input chromatically like a monosynth patch! Try it: make sure you've got something coming through the input, then hold the "Mix In" button down and select "Velocity Pads" with the wheel. INSANITY! The synth engine in this thing is unreal in its sheer depth too, basically as deep or shallow as you want since you can just sample into it. Massively underrated machine, even in 2020. Nice video!
I completely agree with you! I myself am the owner of this car and still has great potential, especially in addition to my MB8800, Yamaha Motif xc and Korg Kronos2,In this setup, 909 is not superfluous.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin So to do this you need to start with the MENU button to the right of the screen. MENU > File Utility and hit ENTER, then F1/F2 to search in User/Card respectively. You need to select your pattern from the list (mine are in Card/Roland/SEQ/PTN), then SHIFT+F3 and confirm to delete it. This is how you initialize a pattern on MC-909. An easier way might be to find a blank pattern, then save it to another slot to edit.
@@AnalogFlava The MC-808 is more of a hybrid concept, not completely stand alone. You can tweak a basic set of parameters live but in depth sound design relies on editor software. The motorized faders look like fun though and it has 128 instead of 64 voices. The sound of the 808 and 909 derives from the XV series as found in the XV-5050 and 5080, the 505 has the JV series sound engine as in the JV-1080 and 2080. The MC-808 and 909 sound more hifi and clean but not quite as warm and gritty as the MC-505. I prefer the sound and workflow of the 505 but it is not a sampler. The 909 is clearly the better all in one solution but the 505 has more character mostly due to its unique filters.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin The sliders on the 909 are powered, which is very cool until they fail. Totally fixable but expensive. All of these turn of the century Roland grooveboxes have a few dodgy switches too. Fixable but it can be annoying. Still, I would favour any of Roland series over the Korg grooveboxes from this period (and I am a big Korg fan).
Don’t sweat replacing the pads, they only give you just over an octave. Just plug in a midi controller and bypass using the pads, way more range of notes too.
An other way to repair without replacing pads is to put « liquid carbon » on pads, it’ll work as new ones too. The brush is included! I made miracles on old digital pianos and my old Nokia 3510i. It takes a bit of time and need you let it dry for 2 days but that’s my philosophy: why to replace when you can repair as new? And it’s cheaper too... www.ebay.com/itm/REMOTE-CONTROL-REPAIR-KIT-RESTORE-CONDUCTIVE-RUBBER-KEYPAD-FIX-TV-ALARM-PHONE/171656481000?hash=item27f78608e8:g:YsgAAOSw44BYCkjZ
Got one for 400 at a pawn shop with 2 dead pads, but this machine is a godsend. Pretty much any early 2000's sound is accessible and I'm a big fan of making your own sounds.
I found me one boxed close brand new never opened in a pawn shop. Dude there told me the prev owner had it in a place it was also been a storage for cars 🤣 and he thinks is an automatic door ecu machine or smth. He gives it to me for like 300 euros. Im gonna get it tmr. Hope it works tho as i couldnt tell him is a legend bro . Told him is the part ive been looking for for my old garage door.
@@riksnoek6068 actually I have both the sequencer on the 909 imo is sick in the ways you can put songs together i build alot of songs on the 909 then track it snd mix thru pro tools..even dr dre still has one in his studio
I have 2 questions,please...I already have the MV8800,so do you think the 909 would be a great option for a live unit to trigger samples and as a controller,while spinning live???..Next.do you love the Korg M3????Aside from the Kronos,which is like a million dollars,I think the M3 is next pound for pound...
The MC-909 is not overpriced at all imho, even at $ 1000,- or more. Yes, the pads wear out, so one should use a controller but even compared to the new flagship MC-707 it's a much sturdier build, made in Japan, integrated psu - no wall ward, larger graphic display (which is one of the best in hardware for editing samples), 16 tracks instead of 8, up to 99 measures per pattern instead of 8), can be maxed out to 272 MB of RAM instead of 64 MB, (more than twice as much as in the MPC-2500 btw), digital outs (coaxial and optical) more dedicated controls and the list goes on... The MC-707 does a better job emulating other synths and has other advantages over the 909 but it's just different, not better. For in depth info on the MC-909 check out the TH-cam channel "16 steps".
Hi, nice video! I am about to purchase a used MC 909, japan version (110v). I have a question, is it true that i can change the imput voltage (110v,220,240v) from the internal "Service Utility" (MENU - SYSTEM - SYSTEM INFO - [SHIFT 1-7-8-9] - Service Utility - Voltage) menu? Because i live in Italy and we have 220v while in Japan is 110v...Thanks
Ciao, alcuni synth a rack che possiedo hanno la possibilità di essere settati a 220 Volt vicino all'alimentatore. Bisognerebbe aprirla e osservare. Spero tu sia fortunato! Se si, come ti auguro, e non hai pratica di elettronica, chiedi aiuto a qualche amico che se ne intenda. Ma non dovrebbe essere complicato.
Hi m8 you seem to know your shit...want to use my MC909 for a tight low sub bass, would you resample with effects or send it through an individual output? If so what external effects would you use? Cheers bud.
Hey My friend can i ask you something?I didnt use my MC 909 for years and now i like start again,how can i record my Song or export in my laptop?Can you help pls??
Ceas.......you already know. PLEASE let me know if you get hands on either this or a 505. I will stop by and scoop it off your hands in a Charlotte minute!
i had a mc 909 back and a korg radias and i was tired of all that hardware, now im just using great vst and with quality nowday i think its better to get software vst you get way more for your buck. Purist will say that hardware synth sound a lot better but.... very hard to mae the difference after a good mastering.
This was what I dreamed about in 99 groovebox I could've swore it was 90s cuz my homie a customer tolde about it at GC and showed it to me I instantly fel in luv
it is extremely complex and has the best emulations of classic drum machines and waveforms of Roland’s classic synths I’ve heard. Way better than today’s synthesizers.
Roland spent the last decade remaking their company around analog circuit emulation tech. They must feel real stupid now that behringer is selling all of their machines and making millions in the process. And Rolands analog emulations don’t even sound that good. They should have just multi-sampled the original machines a 1000 times and done some advanced algorithmic round robin pitching stuff. Add some some good transistor soft limiting on the outs and an analog filter and we would all be shitting ourselves over how good they were.
The only synth with patch memory Behringer released was the Deepmind. It sounds great. The 2600 would be great for sampling but I'll wait till they start putting patch memory in their synths before I consider them.
Between the 'ums' and the fact you couldn't be bothered to flip the view, you got thumbs down. Take the time to think about what your going to say and make it so the viewer can watch it without breaking his neck next time.
When I was building my first studio the MC303 was already out and the MC505 was just being released. The MC909 looks like a beast of a machine for the early 2000's. The other two were after the mid 90's and into the late 90's.
My favorite machine to mess wit at GC back in the day, dope sounds
Wow nice !!
This thing is still the king of grooveboxes even 20 years later.
The depth is endless if you go into the synth engine and it’s high price is well justified.
Its workflow is a little stiff and workstation-ish but in a lot of ways (like making a damn patch) this thing eats the MC-707 for breakfast.
If you make any other videos, you should show off its realtime stuff like the Tempo/BPM slider and uh...D-Beams. I've never seen another machine that lets you play the input with the keys AND ACTUALLY DETUNES IT IN REALTIME so you can play live input chromatically like a monosynth patch!
Try it: make sure you've got something coming through the input, then hold the "Mix In" button down and select "Velocity Pads" with the wheel. INSANITY!
The synth engine in this thing is unreal in its sheer depth too, basically as deep or shallow as you want since you can just sample into it.
Massively underrated machine, even in 2020. Nice video!
I completely agree with you! I myself am the owner of this car and still has great potential, especially in addition to my MB8800, Yamaha Motif xc and Korg Kronos2,In this setup, 909 is not superfluous.
Dude! drop us a video!
Can you please tell me how to delete a User pattern? I mean, delete the data and name, so it's like a unused pattern that says "Empty".
@@MeneTekelUpharsin So to do this you need to start with the MENU button to the right of the screen. MENU > File Utility and hit ENTER, then F1/F2 to search in User/Card respectively. You need to select your pattern from the list (mine are in Card/Roland/SEQ/PTN), then SHIFT+F3 and confirm to delete it. This is how you initialize a pattern on MC-909.
An easier way might be to find a blank pattern, then save it to another slot to edit.
Kk
Another one of my favorite machines great video.
Did you end up posting a video on the MC909 pad replaements?
Cheers
909 has a few mechanical issues with sliders but is an awesome bit of kit. 505 and 808 are my faves of that era.
i thought the 808 was the worst of the bunch? still debating if to get a 505 or 909?? any advice as to pros/cons?
@@AnalogFlava The MC-808 is more of a hybrid concept, not completely stand alone. You can tweak a basic set of parameters live but in depth sound design relies on editor software. The motorized faders look like fun though and it has 128 instead of 64 voices. The sound of the 808 and 909 derives from the XV series as found in the XV-5050 and 5080, the 505 has the JV series sound engine as in the JV-1080 and 2080. The MC-808 and 909 sound more hifi and clean but not quite as warm and gritty as the MC-505. I prefer the sound and workflow of the 505 but it is not a sampler. The 909 is clearly the better all in one solution but the 505 has more character mostly due to its unique filters.
What mechanical issue?
@@MeneTekelUpharsin The sliders on the 909 are powered, which is very cool until they fail. Totally fixable but expensive. All of these turn of the century Roland grooveboxes have a few dodgy switches too. Fixable but it can be annoying. Still, I would favour any of Roland series over the Korg grooveboxes from this period (and I am a big Korg fan).
@@AnalogFlava909 hands down
Don’t sweat replacing the pads, they only give you just over an octave. Just plug in a midi controller and bypass using the pads, way more range of notes too.
thank you bro !!!
What's a good reasonably priced midi controller?
@@MeneTekelUpharsin just get a midi keyboard
An other way to repair without replacing pads is to put « liquid carbon » on pads, it’ll work as new ones too. The brush is included! I made miracles on old digital pianos and my old Nokia 3510i. It takes a bit of time and need you let it dry for 2 days but that’s my philosophy: why to replace when you can repair as new? And it’s cheaper too... www.ebay.com/itm/REMOTE-CONTROL-REPAIR-KIT-RESTORE-CONDUCTIVE-RUBBER-KEYPAD-FIX-TV-ALARM-PHONE/171656481000?hash=item27f78608e8:g:YsgAAOSw44BYCkjZ
Dumb ass comment. Why would i want a machine that doesnt work as inteded? Of course id want to fix it, wtf kinda dumb ass leaves a comment like that
i just got one for 360 plus tax hopefully thats good. does it have autochop with threshold options?
It does! You should track down the manual and check it out. This thing is deeeeeeep.
@@vjspectron i found it earlier but couldnt tell if its just quarter notes/limited threshold. ill check back on it!
Got one for 400 at a pawn shop with 2 dead pads, but this machine is a godsend. Pretty much any early 2000's sound is accessible and I'm a big fan of making your own sounds.
you can buy the pads and change them only for 20 dollars syntaur.com/Items.php?Item=3158
I Want to know to change the pads ,
I love how you cover everything !!!!!!!!🔥🇨🇦👊🏿✊🏿
Thank you bro !! Respect ✊🏽
kind of funny how the mc-707 has such a little display, while this beast had a huge display!
I bought one of these 2 mths ago it’s worth it also got a MC 505
I found me one boxed close brand new never opened in a pawn shop. Dude there told me the prev owner had it in a place it was also been a storage for cars 🤣 and he thinks is an automatic door ecu machine or smth. He gives it to me for like 300 euros. Im gonna get it tmr. Hope it works tho as i couldnt tell him is a legend bro . Told him is the part ive been looking for for my old garage door.
dope beats btw!
What do you think about getting a mc 505 today in 2020?
I never had one or even seen one in person so I can recommend a machine I never had.
I used to have one. But it lacks a lot with todays standards. Although I still think it's the best machine I ever had for sentimenal reasons.
Get it. Its good enough to have in your arsenal..the 909 too
@@landrum182 Yeah, if you have to choose between both, I would go for the 909, which is more like an upgrade to the 505.
@@riksnoek6068 actually I have both the sequencer on the 909 imo is sick in the ways you can put songs together i build alot of songs on the 909 then track it snd mix thru pro tools..even dr dre still has one in his studio
I have 2 questions,please...I already have the MV8800,so do you think the 909 would be a great option for a live unit to trigger samples and as a controller,while spinning live???..Next.do you love the Korg M3????Aside from the Kronos,which is like a million dollars,I think the M3 is next pound for pound...
Great Demo, this machine or the Sp808ex/Mv8800 or the Mv1 is the best one to get ?
mv8800
@@DJROCKCEEENTERTAINMENT Many Thanks 😊
@@Ashfaq1999 the 909 if you want the synths and built in drums tho….
@@mattyg499 Thanks Matty Very Much 🤝
The MC-909 is not overpriced at all imho, even at $ 1000,- or more. Yes, the pads wear out, so one should use a controller but even compared to the new flagship MC-707 it's a much sturdier build, made in Japan, integrated psu - no wall ward, larger graphic display (which is one of the best in hardware for editing samples), 16 tracks instead of 8, up to 99 measures per pattern instead of 8), can be maxed out to 272 MB of RAM instead of 64 MB, (more than twice as much as in the MPC-2500 btw), digital outs (coaxial and optical) more dedicated controls and the list goes on... The MC-707 does a better job emulating other synths and has other advantages over the 909 but it's just different, not better. For in depth info on the MC-909 check out the TH-cam channel "16 steps".
That's facts, well built and heavy
Rock-Cee fire on all tools!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Thank you bro !!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
true about the price. always over 600
Hi,
nice video! I am about to purchase a used MC 909, japan version (110v). I have a question, is it true that i can change the imput voltage (110v,220,240v) from the internal "Service Utility" (MENU - SYSTEM - SYSTEM INFO - [SHIFT 1-7-8-9] - Service Utility - Voltage) menu? Because i live in Italy and we have 220v while in Japan is 110v...Thanks
I don't think so
Ciao, alcuni synth a rack che possiedo hanno la possibilità di essere settati a 220 Volt vicino all'alimentatore. Bisognerebbe aprirla e osservare. Spero tu sia fortunato! Se si, come ti auguro, e non hai pratica di elettronica, chiedi aiuto a qualche amico che se ne intenda. Ma non dovrebbe essere complicato.
The best timestretch of all time
Whats up Dj! I do have two mc 909's that i need to clean up the sensors for the pads. itd help me out alot to know how to open it quick
if you in the US you can ship them to my repair shop here in Charlotte nc
I got mine 2005 hope its cheaper now than it was then lol
This looks too complicated for me. lol I don’t have musical skills to be using something like this machine.
ROLAND MC 909 th-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/w-d-xo.html
damn, best comment ever. honesty is refreshing but u right brother, anything done here can be achieved on an app - believe me.
Hi m8 you seem to know your shit...want to use my MC909 for a tight low sub bass, would you resample with effects or send it through an individual output? If so what external effects would you use?
Cheers bud.
Hey My friend can i ask you something?I didnt use my MC 909 for years and now i like start again,how can i record my Song or export in my laptop?Can you help pls??
Ceas.......you already know. PLEASE let me know if you get hands on either this or a 505. I will stop by and scoop it off your hands in a Charlotte minute!
ok I will bro !
i had a mc 909 back and a korg radias and i was tired of all that hardware, now im just using great vst and with quality nowday i think its better to get software vst you get way more for your buck. Purist will say that hardware synth sound a lot better but.... very hard to mae the difference after a good mastering.
This was what I dreamed about in 99 groovebox I could've swore it was 90s cuz my homie a customer tolde about it at GC and showed it to me I instantly fel in luv
I just like the Korg mixers eqs!!
Next time turn ur camera upside down so the unit is facing us... other then that great tutorial
Thanks for the tip
A great tool if you know how to use it, I still have it in my studio
i like the beat. i feel like there was more joy in the music back then. it could be because i was younger
You can tell rza used this alot in the bobby digital days, this sounds like a beat he woulda done
I think he used the
mv88000
it is extremely complex and has the best emulations of classic drum machines and waveforms of Roland’s classic synths I’ve heard. Way better than today’s synthesizers.
Roland spent the last decade remaking their company around analog circuit emulation tech. They must feel real stupid now that behringer is selling all of their machines and making millions in the process.
And Rolands analog emulations don’t even sound that good. They should have just multi-sampled the original machines a 1000 times and done some advanced algorithmic round robin pitching stuff. Add some some good transistor soft limiting on the outs and an analog filter and we would all be shitting ourselves over how good they were.
@@ryanpwm . Roland has a great future.
Roland's legacy is Behringer's gain..
The only synth with patch memory Behringer released was the Deepmind. It sounds great. The 2600 would be great for sampling but I'll wait till they start putting patch memory in their synths before I consider them.
Only thing with these if something went wrong you had to really know your shit in repairs
Pleeeeaaase say again „ahhhm…“ 😂😂😂
😍909😍
Fly beat all in one
A Korg ESX and EMX duo is a much better set up in my opinion.
Um
I read all the manual dude ;)
Do you still use this machine?
Nothing special MC909 = money waisted ....... golden era of MC303 has passed
Inutile de taper comme un sourd sur le clavier. Surtout que Roland ne les fabriques plus ...
I like it. Btw don't get an M505 if u don't have a memory card. Why? It super slow like Nancy Pelosi with the whole stim check
Between the 'ums' and the fact you couldn't be bothered to flip the view, you got thumbs down. Take the time to think about what your going to say and make it so the viewer can watch it without breaking his neck next time.
learn make music deeeejay...