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It's so weird how people still glaze jon jones even though hes cheated multiple times but if he were anyone else people would rightfully call him out on being a cheat, plus everything outside the octagon thats he's done, dude is a straight piece of shit but people still worship him
@@Sethglover99 yeah let’s forget about the dirty tricks to win too. no doubt Jone Jones is a legend. he didn’t even need steroids to win but he used it like a coward. that’s what’s bothering him.. also the fact that he mentioned DC deceased daughter. a white man would’ve killed him already
Most of MMA do it. Chael sonnen has said this already. Why point hate at one person. Just like they all poke each other in the eye. But Bones is more known for it😂
I’ll always have love for DC. He did everything the right way and Jon was the polar opposite. Did everything the wrong way, almost killed a pregnant woman and straight up cheated. Jones is a bum straight up.
I don’t see why people treat it like it’s unjustified , dc did everything correct in his career in and out of the cage , Jon may have preformed in the cage but he heavily underperformed out of it
@@saeyoonchung7873 so ur telling me Jon wasn’t known for eye pokes ? He literally admits he used to poke people in the eye 😭 he’s a PED cheater too . Max holloway eyepoked against gaethje at 300 too , stipe got ko’ed in the first round against dc cope with it , double champ 😭
Bro he is just mad that Bone got the better of him. DC is an elite competitor, that’s their mindset, he knows that roid and eyepokes wasn’t the reason for his L, it was Jones’ talent. DC fought bigger and stronger guys than Jones but nobody outwrestled him, Jones pulled it off. DC is just cut from the same champion cloth as Jordan, he’s going to hold on to that grudge 😂
@@Inf-1111 and also, did you even watch the fights bro, every time Bone manhandled DC, he did it with set up and finesse. That’s ring IQ, not brute force, no roid can help you in that department.
@@Tlh09-k4v Bro, are you serious fr? How does it not matter, in a sport where punching, kicking and grabbing your opponent, having extra strenght and resistance Is clearly an advantage. It's like saying using a motorbike in a running competition Is okay because you had higher IQ and decided go use a motorbike instead of using your Legs. Having "better ring IQ" does not erase the fact he cheated.
because he's crying for no reason when he clearly lost. and how i keep saying, there is no scenario where DC would have even the slightest chance against Jones. Even without the roids.
@@Croco_G nah bro. DC is an amazing fighter. I really do give him his flowers bro, but there is just no way DC is a better fighter than Jones man, with or without roids, there just isn't. DC has said it himself that what really bothers him is that Jones is so talented he couldve beat him even without the roids. Its just that man, DC will always be Jones second.
The fact that DC isn’t ever in the GOAT conversation is a crime. He epitomizes what it means to be a respectful, hard working, badass fighter. Yes he lost to a doped up Jones, yes he lost to Stipe, but gahdamn if he ain’t a dawg. He’ll always rank on my top 5 of all time.
@@MatthewMi000 Jones has a tarnished legacy. He will always be remembered for PEDs. and what will you do with money after certain amount? DC good. He continues to make good money. DC is clean and better.
@@MatthewMi000DC has a clear conscious. Jones walks around with guilt in his heart for sure. It may not show or be present now, but one day all the bad actions will catch up to him. That’s probably why he likes to numb things with alcohol and cocaine.
Dc vs jones 1 was the best build up to a mma fight ever. That shhh was magical, and it all started from jones telling DC id take u down easy when they first met😂
12:35 They have never squashed the beef. They are respectful to each other in terms of being professional but you can always sense the resentment for each other DC resents Jon because he feels Jones has gotten off easy for all his transgressions while Jon deep down resents DC for exposing Jones' character flaws
How can you hate DC. He tried everything to win the second fight against Jones and it would sting when someone drug cheats which makes your training a waste of time
I'll give you 2 reasons to hate DC, he's kind of a hypocrite: - DC's Testosterone level was 7000 ng/dL before fighting Jon Jones, 7 times the normal level for healthy guys (Source: MorePlatesMoreDates) - DC literally eye poked Stipe into having permanent eye damage. Stipe got his revenge afterwards though, you can look this up online
@@easy_eight2810you should consider actually watching the video you're using as a source instead of just reading the title. Or at least skip to the end where derek concludes that using that 7000 number is massively misinterpreting the data and he finds it unlikely that dc was using steroids.
Dc literally made a list of the best LHW and he had jones at 1 😂 so idk why everyone’s mad at Usman for saying he thinks jones is the best,it’s between Jon,Dj and gsp, if u choose anyone of those guys as the mj of the sport who cares, everyone acts like mj means nicest guy/ award 😂it means goat of the sport
Daniel is deep down sure of Jones’ greatness inside the octagon. In each 10 fights between the two, Jones would probably win 9 of them, or even every single one. Try naming ONE greater fighter than him; you can’t. GSP got flatlined by Serra, Fedor same thing, Anderson got bored of winning, etc etc etc (…)
@@indianna.777 I would argue GSP and DJ are greater. I mean Jones is known for being a dirty fighter with the eye pokes and a multiple time steroid cheat. He's also known for ducking Francis, Aspinall, and refused to fight DC in heavy weight. Also, Jon has arguably lost twice once to Reyes and once to Gustafsson. On top of that he got a DQ lost for throwing illegal elbows and almost got another one after he threw and illegal knee to Anthony Smith's head while he was grounded. You can say what you want but the dudes best win is a about 40-year-old DC and the second fight turned into a NC because Jones was busted for steroids again.
@@kero-_-279 Jones was caught 2x by non intentional contamination and 1x as innocent, by USADA’s official decisions. He ducked neither of the two. Francis refused to sign the contract in 01/2023 and left the company. Aspinall is still waiting, because the superfight Jones x Stipe began being negotiated immediately after the Jones x Gane fight. Nothing wrong about that in my view. Regarding the DC fight, he was undefeated and was ragdolling everyone before facing Jones, also he came to MMA late (mid 30’s). No resume is better than Jones’. You can’t name a single one.
DC lost to Jones. But DC never Ran away from the fight. Jones is Running from Tom Aspinol. So Jones would be better served win or lose to Ton Aspinol but fight. Because i dont know how someone can call Jones the GOAT if he runs from Tom Aspinol.
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve seen countless videos about this same topic and I already knew the story for a long time but this video is the only one that changed my perspective on Jon.
What I find crazy about DC is I don’t think we really ever saw his potential. He started at 31 was 35 by time he was in UFC. Was older than most and smaller yet still became double champ.
Bro, if some kid kicked your ass at your own game, you would pay his rent in your head too 😂 the guy was an olympian wrestler and bone was outwrestling him, dc is going to take those 2 L to the grave 😂
@@cashmoney9704 doesn't matter. When ever DC is on a podcast talking about these 2 fights, he just broke down how Bone beat him, the roid doesn't bug him, the man is a real champ.
@@Tlh09-k4v "Doesn't matter". If it doesn't why have an officiating body that tests, analyses and hands out punishments for PEDs? It does matter unless you are riding that peepee with blindfolds on.
The sad reality is that better looks will always sway people to it's advantage, many studies has always shown that people who are more beautiful/hansome has many advantages, be it in a job situation, dating situation or a popularity situation, studies clearly indicates that even babies are drawn to beautiful people. And beauty is just an indicator of healthy genetics, not saying that DC is ugly or unhealthy he is clearly a very genetically gifted man and not only that he is also a very patient and understanding man, I remember those years waiting as a fan together with DC, always looking forward to that fight 😅 I can only imagine the patience it took from DC of being let down again and agin, reminds me of my childhood with my alcoholic father who kept letting me down by all the promisses of quitting and all the cool stuff we were going to do in the future, he ended of drinking himself to death. So I totally understand it it still haunts DC, only Jesus can break those chains of heavyness, like he broke my chains of anger and sorrow after 24 years that went by from my father died till I came to faith in Jesus, all glory our Saviour! Only God can see in the heart of Jon if he really is a believer in Jesus, sometimes the enemy throws everything at the ones who are called, which I myself experienced. Anyways back to the genetics/looks, Jon has better looks, higher cheeckbones, hunter eyes (vs prey eyes that DC has), slimmer thereby giving him hollow cheeks and defining his jawline better, positive eyebrow tilt that are thicker and longer than DC's, and last but not least he is tall, like the gen z's would put it...he is a better mogger...which means that he just is way more hansome th-cam.com/video/vpmuL6w9xsA/w-d-xo.html I just pray that Jesus with soothe DC's heart so he can let go of the past and any believers that reads this, I hope that you'll do too for DC's sake🙏
It’s one thing if a man loses and can’t take the L. That’s not the case here. The fact is it. It’s a classic story of “nice guys finish last”. Some people can definitely take the fact if they lose to somebody who they know was the better man, and I think that’s what Daniel is 100% doing because he’s not denying that bones beat him. But when it’s the constant getting ridiculed and character attacked, and for a guy to literally be in your face saying, “I can do everything wrong and you can do everything right, and they’re going to reward me instead simply because they like me more than you, or I’m their preferred choice”, anyone would be upset too. Because that’s no longer about fighting or competing. That’s just borderline injustice, favoritism, and wrong. And it’s sad to say, but that’s just where we are as a society. We shouldn’t reward people for doing the wrong thing but we do🤷🏾♂️. It’s picking and choosing.
Jones is better and allways would be better than DC, after all Jones have won more fight against Women than DC ever had 2-0 against his wife and the pregnant woman
DC hated him so much because Jon took so much away from him. Remember that clip where DC was on the verge of tears when Dana said Jon tested positive? He wanted to fight him so bad even if he was on peds. He hated Jon truly, and Jon was a true cheat, but he was also his greatest fckn enemy as he knew how to fckn fight.
Alright man. I already knew I don't like Jon Jones, based on all of his piece of sith behavior, but you got me @8:50 mark. So, for all of his BS, and just him being a terrible person, to find out he's a snitch too, DAMN!!! D.C. has every right to hate this dude. There's nothing Jon Jones won't do. Great video.
DC gets love now but at the time you could just tell Jon haunted him and how he wanted to point and say I’m not bad Jon’s bad(which was warranted). But That on top of the emotions he showed in the ring and other visible thin skinned moments made people lean towards the bad guy image even more with bones.
D.C hate towards Jones is completely justified, think about it. Imagine you're dominating in a sport and you're drug free, you abide by the rules etc. Then this guy blasts gear, beats you infront of the whole world, messes up your record only to be ruled no contest because he pissed hot. Not only that D.C is going to live the rest of his life wondering if it was a fair fight (Jones not doing steriods),if he could have won but he will never know.
If by good enough you mean that he didn't have a 7/8 inches reach advantage , didn't test positive for roids , and wasn't almost 10 years younger than his opponent , then yes you can say that dc wasn't "good enough" ...
Enemies fighting like they’re in their seventies when Jon said bitch please he started gettin them felonies Daniel had his opportunities but Jon sang him some melodies. 13:24
mate what are you talking about becuase no one cares about jon in hw and is literally holding up the division and is ducking his cryptonight tom aspinall far from what dc did in hw.
DC is corporate mouthpiece DC, not fighter DC, and he loves hearing people glaze him even though he was primarily booed his whole career. The narrative was altered with time and that’s so weird. Regardless of what you say about Jon, at that time in the UFC, everyone 125 and up was on a cycle.
I truly believe there’s an immense abyss between real fans and casual fans. Recently I leaned that these “fans” keep repeating things they hear on modern channels like “mma guru” and they don’t even know what happened in real life. Jon beat DC twice; and at their 2nd bout he got accused by USADA’s arbitrators of UNINTENTIONAL CONTAMINATION of b4nn3d substance. For those people who watched the “MPMD” video, you know Derek has absolutely no proof for any of his assumptions. USADA’s investigation does not rely merely on assumptions, but rather on consistent evidences of usage, which was NEVER concluded in his entire career. He just really is the greatest mixed martial artist to ever step a foot in an octagon, but unfortunately people can’t stand a “bad guy” as the undisputed GOAT.
What you don’t know is most champs done or is on steroids from boxing to mma to football to basketball, sports like mma and boxing have programs that keep guys in particular shape, how you think these guys move from 55 to 70 in 2 weeks or 85 to heavyweight in weeks, guys flush these substances out before competition sometimes these guys take so much they cant flush it out on time and they look like Jon jones or Ryan Garcia with a billionth of a gram but don’t you think the khabibs of the world, dcs, Islams, Alex pererias, Izzy’s they all do steroids 😂😂😂
@@marspt29 The problem is, Jon Jones talks all day about how great he is and shit like he didn't failed drug tests left and right, admitted that he was hidding from usada below an octagon and also admitted he pokes eyes on purpose. Annoying af.
@@Inf-1111 I thing is somebody has to beat him for his legacy to be tarnished, besides the dc fight and him testing dirty he’s beaten every other legend with clean results pre usada we can just assume every fighter took steroids
If you fought someone and its compulsory that you're both clean for that fight, and he knocks you out and then you find out few days after that he had more juice than Tropicana, how would you feel??, cheated right?? Cause the guy won, but not fair and square 🤷🏾♂️, now the 1st fight, full credit Jon he showed up and showed out, but he didn't believe in his heart of hearts that he could do it again without the juice🤷🏾♂️...
I'm not a Jon Jones fan but i just dislike all the simple minded idiots that judge him for his deeds as if the same people that judge him are saints. I assure ya'll that ya'll have done disgusting and despicable things but the only difference between jones and the people that call him a bad guy is that Jones is a celebrity so his deeds are public and ya'll are regular people that nobody knows.
Dc worked his way to where he was gets a bunch of hate for being at the top in his prime then, Jon jones comes around gets glazed when he is absent from ufc a lot of the time for his own wrong doings yet dc gets the hate for it. Pretty valid reason to dislike jon jones if you ask me
To me if you get caught for ped’s your removed from the goat conversation, let alone shouldnt be allowed to compete. How many times has Jon Jones tested positive now!
Daniel said that Jon could have probably beat him clean, Jon didn't even try to though, he never gave DC a fair shot, so yes, every bit of distaste Daniel has is completely justified, Jon Jones is the Greatest Cheater of All Time.
DC is absolutely in the right, drives me crazy when people make fun of him for his obvious disdain. If you know a bit about DC’s history, it’s not a mystery why he’d hate a dude who harmed a pregnant woman impaired. An obvious steroid abuser taking the shine from achievements would drive any fighter crazy too.
@@RightHookEnthusiast nigga u think a young dc beats a young John with No steroids? Did u hear when dc said John would’ve beat him without the steroids sooo u are the casual
I just always found DC so unlikeable, always yapping about what a good guy he is and how it's Jon who's the bad guy, I don't even care that Jon did bad things, I just don't like dc, whereas Jon is at least entertaining. You can follow all the rules and still be annoying as fuk, that's what DC was always to me, like the kid in school who always snitches on other kids doing wrong and acts like he's a saint
I love MMA, but this is the only sport where an athlete can get caught several times using PEDs and that doesn't affect their legacy. They're still considered the "goat" 😂
Only way Jon can save his career at this point is facing and defeating a young Tom aspinal and forcing Dana to make this champion vs champion Francis vs Jon jones ufc-pfl merger
Disagree about Jones “copying Dc and doing better”. Jones hw “reign” is a disgrace, beat an athlete that was taken down and out wrestled by Ngannou , seated on the fking belt and will fight and elderly Stipe coming off a loss and 3, 4 years from his last fight. Dc hw reign was better no matter the result of the JJ vs Miocic fight. Also roids.
Ya gotta stop with the crying. Even without the roids there is no scenario where DC would ever beat Jones. Jones is just a better striker, grappler, wrestler, and just martial artist in general in comparison to DC. Yeah he done some crappy shit but who gives af? I don't watch the sport to judge character or use fighters as a moral compass. I'm there to watch martial arts and entertainment.
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you are stupid
DC’s hate towards jons is 100% justified
@@eggm0neyeither here made a grammar, or I’m super confused
@@sharpsam25he has skitzophrenia
@@ian1697Bro lives in an alternate timeline
@@rocketsrequiem bro creates his own reality
Dc is the one that started it tho from way back
It's so weird how people still glaze jon jones even though hes cheated multiple times but if he were anyone else people would rightfully call him out on being a cheat, plus everything outside the octagon thats he's done, dude is a straight piece of shit but people still worship him
That’s not true if there’s anyone who completely gets away with cheating it’s Anderson Silva
@@Sethglover99or any white fighter
@@Sethglover99
yeah let’s forget about the dirty tricks to win too. no doubt Jone Jones is a legend. he didn’t even need steroids to win but he used it like a coward. that’s what’s bothering him.. also the fact that he mentioned DC deceased daughter. a white man would’ve killed him already
People call TJ Dillashaw a cheater for using while dropping weight, even though he LOST. But both of Jon Jones wins on DC, he got caught cheating.
Most of MMA do it. Chael sonnen has said this already. Why point hate at one person. Just like they all poke each other in the eye. But Bones is more known for it😂
So if you're denied greatness by a guy that clearly cheated and most people over look that to pile on to his greatness wouldn't upset you for years?
everyone cheats, including DC
So happy to see the MMA community collectively turn on that cheat.
first fight he only popped for coke, Interestingly DC was the one with 7k ng/dl of testosterone
@@Spzncerso happy the mma community salty because jones black 😂
Cope
I’ll always have love for DC. He did everything the right way and Jon was the polar opposite. Did everything the wrong way, almost killed a pregnant woman and straight up cheated. Jones is a bum straight up.
show some respect to your current, reigning, defending, undisputed goat of the world, your daddy,,, johny, bones, jones. amen.
Nice, add to that Jon literally giving his belt up to Daniel after for roids.... Not to mention all the eye pokes amd fence grabs...
@@Left_4_Dead1997 lmfao!
@@Left_4_Dead1997danas burner
@@Left_4_Dead1997Not undisputed tho is he, Aspinall is lurking around. As long as there’s two belts Jon the disputed champ.
I don’t see why people treat it like it’s unjustified , dc did everything correct in his career in and out of the cage , Jon may have preformed in the cage but he heavily underperformed out of it
no. numerous eyepokes in 3 stipe fights say NOPE.
@@saeyoonchung7873 so ur telling me Jon wasn’t known for eye pokes ? He literally admits he used to poke people in the eye 😭 he’s a PED cheater too . Max holloway eyepoked against gaethje at 300 too , stipe got ko’ed in the first round against dc cope with it , double champ 😭
@@saeyoonchung7873do you not watch jones fights or do you just dickride bc he does the same exact thing if not worse
first fight he only popped for coke, Interestingly DC was the one with 7k ng/dl of testosterone
@@noahm10what happened in the trilogy against stipe bud?
What jon did is UNFORGIVABLE. Poor daniel. Jon used roids in both fights and attacked his eyes mercilessly, period.
Bro he is just mad that Bone got the better of him. DC is an elite competitor, that’s their mindset, he knows that roid and eyepokes wasn’t the reason for his L, it was Jones’ talent. DC fought bigger and stronger guys than Jones but nobody outwrestled him, Jones pulled it off. DC is just cut from the same champion cloth as Jordan, he’s going to hold on to that grudge 😂
@@Tlh09-k4v Why use roids then, scared of losing to DC? If he was as confident about his own talent as you are, he wouldn't use them
@@Inf-1111 that doesn’t matter. What matters is DC - the champ with the champ mindset, he took no excuse for his loss bro.
@@Inf-1111 and also, did you even watch the fights bro, every time Bone manhandled DC, he did it with set up and finesse. That’s ring IQ, not brute force, no roid can help you in that department.
@@Tlh09-k4v Bro, are you serious fr? How does it not matter, in a sport where punching, kicking and grabbing your opponent, having extra strenght and resistance Is clearly an advantage.
It's like saying using a motorbike in a running competition Is okay because you had higher IQ and decided go use a motorbike instead of using your Legs. Having "better ring IQ" does not erase the fact he cheated.
The fact that people clown on DC for this is sad
because he's crying for no reason when he clearly lost. and how i keep saying, there is no scenario where DC would have even the slightest chance against Jones. Even without the roids.
@ that’s a crazy and a sad take but you do you brother
@@Croco_G nah bro. DC is an amazing fighter. I really do give him his flowers bro, but there is just no way DC is a better fighter than Jones man, with or without roids, there just isn't. DC has said it himself that what really bothers him is that Jones is so talented he couldve beat him even without the roids. Its just that man, DC will always be Jones second.
Its cool jon jones is a joke nowadays for ducking Tom Aspinall
A direct reflection of their flawed character ❤
The fact that DC isn’t ever in the GOAT conversation is a crime. He epitomizes what it means to be a respectful, hard working, badass fighter. Yes he lost to a doped up Jones, yes he lost to Stipe, but gahdamn if he ain’t a dawg. He’ll always rank on my top 5 of all time.
Because he got finished by two guys who are also in that conversation.
@ Fair, but one was on gear the whole time, and the other he beat first AND went up a weight class to do it. Food for thought!
Jones can beat him anytime he wants, but DC is a winner in life. That matters more.
In what way they both have a nice family and kids but jones has more money who’s winning in life ?? And jones is considered goat
@@MatthewMi000 Jones has a tarnished legacy. He will always be remembered for PEDs. and what will you do with money after certain amount? DC good. He continues to make good money.
DC is clean and better.
@@MatthewMi000DC has a clear conscious. Jones walks around with guilt in his heart for sure. It may not show or be present now, but one day all the bad actions will catch up to him. That’s probably why he likes to numb things with alcohol and cocaine.
Lol I said this same thing on a thread a couple years ago and got an endless stream of rabid Jones fans who didn't get it. Lol good luck, bro..
@@MatthewMi000jones is evil and scummy
Dc vs jones 1 was the best build up to a mma fight ever. That shhh was magical, and it all started from jones telling DC id take u down easy when they first met😂
no it wasn't haha. every conoc fight build up was 10 times better in his prime.
It’s because dc Is an All Time great Talent so basically it was skill for a skill one of the highest level fights of all time.
12:35 They have never squashed the beef. They are respectful to each other in terms of being professional but you can always sense the resentment for each other
DC resents Jon because he feels Jones has gotten off easy for all his transgressions while Jon deep down resents DC for exposing Jones' character flaws
I know this would never happen but imagine if they just squash the beef and start an mma podcast together
I would absolutely love that
Jon Jones personality is hot Garbo, most of us would hate him more if he had the opportunity to talk for that long consistently.
How can you hate DC. He tried everything to win the second fight against Jones and it would sting when someone drug cheats which makes your training a waste of time
I'll give you 2 reasons to hate DC, he's kind of a hypocrite:
- DC's Testosterone level was 7000 ng/dL before fighting Jon Jones, 7 times the normal level for healthy guys (Source: MorePlatesMoreDates)
- DC literally eye poked Stipe into having permanent eye damage. Stipe got his revenge afterwards though, you can look this up online
@@easy_eight2810you should consider actually watching the video you're using as a source instead of just reading the title. Or at least skip to the end where derek concludes that using that 7000 number is massively misinterpreting the data and he finds it unlikely that dc was using steroids.
Dc literally made a list of the best LHW and he had jones at 1 😂 so idk why everyone’s mad at Usman for saying he thinks jones is the best,it’s between Jon,Dj and gsp, if u choose anyone of those guys as the mj of the sport who cares, everyone acts like mj means nicest guy/ award 😂it means goat of the sport
That wasn’t his actual list, they were trolling him.
Daniel is deep down sure of Jones’ greatness inside the octagon. In each 10 fights between the two, Jones would probably win 9 of them, or even every single one. Try naming ONE greater fighter than him; you can’t. GSP got flatlined by Serra, Fedor same thing, Anderson got bored of winning, etc etc etc (…)
@@indianna.777 I would argue GSP and DJ are greater. I mean Jones is known for being a dirty fighter with the eye pokes and a multiple time steroid cheat. He's also known for ducking Francis, Aspinall, and refused to fight DC in heavy weight. Also, Jon has arguably lost twice once to Reyes and once to Gustafsson. On top of that he got a DQ lost for throwing illegal elbows and almost got another one after he threw and illegal knee to Anthony Smith's head while he was grounded. You can say what you want but the dudes best win is a about 40-year-old DC and the second fight turned into a NC because Jones was busted for steroids again.
loss*
@@kero-_-279 Jones was caught 2x by non intentional contamination and 1x as innocent, by USADA’s official decisions. He ducked neither of the two. Francis refused to sign the contract in 01/2023 and left the company. Aspinall is still waiting, because the superfight Jones x Stipe began being negotiated immediately after the Jones x Gane fight. Nothing wrong about that in my view. Regarding the DC fight, he was undefeated and was ragdolling everyone before facing Jones, also he came to MMA late (mid 30’s). No resume is better than Jones’. You can’t name a single one.
This video was so well done. I hope it gets more traction
DC lost to Jones. But DC never Ran away from the fight. Jones is Running from Tom Aspinol. So Jones would be better served win or lose to Ton Aspinol but fight. Because i dont know how someone can call Jones the GOAT if he runs from Tom Aspinol.
DC doesn't look like a fighter at all. He looks like an accountant. Yet, he can fight.
Dc is allowed to hate Jon. He has every good reason to.
The funniest part about ufc 200 was the fact that they pulled Jon jones from it but kept Brock lesnar 😂, they’re all on shit, look at Kayla Harrison
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve seen countless videos about this same topic and I already knew the story for a long time but this video is the only one that changed my perspective on Jon.
DC was super professional during the responses to reporters.
No eyepoke, no double champ. end of story. dc aint some baby angel.
He had his career derailed multiple times by a guy who was caught cheating multiple times. Ofcourse he still hates him
I love Jones and DC but DC has every right to be angry with Jones
Am I buggin or is this audio completely botched? I keep having to raise the volume, then lower, then raise
What I find crazy about DC is I don’t think we really ever saw his potential. He started at 31 was 35 by time he was in UFC. Was older than most and smaller yet still became double champ.
Bro, if some kid kicked your ass at your own game, you would pay his rent in your head too 😂 the guy was an olympian wrestler and bone was outwrestling him, dc is going to take those 2 L to the grave 😂
*while using steroids*
@@cashmoney9704 doesn't matter. When ever DC is on a podcast talking about these 2 fights, he just broke down how Bone beat him, the roid doesn't bug him, the man is a real champ.
@@cashmoney9704lol imagine thinking DC was all natural
@@Tlh09-k4v "Doesn't matter". If it doesn't why have an officiating body that tests, analyses and hands out punishments for PEDs? It does matter unless you are riding that peepee with blindfolds on.
@@Tlh09-k4v”It doesn’t matter” 😂 🤦♂️
You think I'm going to just let you give me ice cream JON???
The sad reality is that better looks will always sway people to it's advantage, many studies has always shown that people who are more beautiful/hansome has many advantages, be it in a job situation, dating situation or a popularity situation, studies clearly indicates that even babies are drawn to beautiful people.
And beauty is just an indicator of healthy genetics, not saying that DC is ugly or unhealthy he is clearly a very genetically gifted man and not only that he is also a very patient and understanding man, I remember those years waiting as a fan together with DC, always looking forward to that fight 😅
I can only imagine the patience it took from DC of being let down again and agin, reminds me of my childhood with my alcoholic father who kept letting me down by all the promisses of quitting and all the cool stuff we were going to do in the future, he ended of drinking himself to death.
So I totally understand it it still haunts DC, only Jesus can break those chains of heavyness, like he broke my chains of anger and sorrow after 24 years that went by from my father died till I came to faith in Jesus, all glory our Saviour!
Only God can see in the heart of Jon if he really is a believer in Jesus, sometimes the enemy throws everything at the ones who are called, which I myself experienced.
Anyways back to the genetics/looks, Jon has better looks, higher cheeckbones, hunter eyes (vs prey eyes that DC has), slimmer thereby giving him hollow cheeks and defining his jawline better, positive eyebrow tilt that are thicker and longer than DC's, and last but not least he is tall, like the gen z's would put it...he is a better mogger...which means that he just is way more hansome
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I just pray that Jesus with soothe DC's heart so he can let go of the past and any believers that reads this, I hope that you'll do too for DC's sake🙏
It’s one thing if a man loses and can’t take the L. That’s not the case here. The fact is it. It’s a classic story of “nice guys finish last”. Some people can definitely take the fact if they lose to somebody who they know was the better man, and I think that’s what Daniel is 100% doing because he’s not denying that bones beat him. But when it’s the constant getting ridiculed and character attacked, and for a guy to literally be in your face saying, “I can do everything wrong and you can do everything right, and they’re going to reward me instead simply because they like me more than you, or I’m their preferred choice”, anyone would be upset too.
Because that’s no longer about fighting or competing. That’s just borderline injustice, favoritism, and wrong. And it’s sad to say, but that’s just where we are as a society. We shouldn’t reward people for doing the wrong thing but we do🤷🏾♂️. It’s picking and choosing.
DC is a champion both in AND out of the ring... Which is more than anyone can say for jones
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These 2 are my favorite fighters ever I was so conflicted when they fought I didn’t pick a side
talented and still cheating is just straight up evil. jones maybe great but not the greatest.
But when he was dominating in his 20s everyone else was on the roids at that time
I will always stick with Jon Jones… idk any of these people… I stay in a fans place… that’s all I am. I am not anyone’s judge and jury lol.
Dc had his whole career and legacy derailed by a roid cheat, why wouldn’t he be angry?
Jones is better and allways would be better than DC, after all Jones have won more fight against Women than DC ever had 2-0 against his wife and the pregnant woman
You got me off gaurd
Lose is reality and acceptable.
But losing when ur opponent cheating that something really unacceptable especially health on the line
Tom aspinall lives rent free in jones head
DC hated him so much because Jon took so much away from him. Remember that clip where DC was on the verge of tears when Dana said Jon tested positive? He wanted to fight him so bad even if he was on peds. He hated Jon truly, and Jon was a true cheat, but he was also his greatest fckn enemy as he knew how to fckn fight.
Ironically the peds really didn't make a difference as evidenced by Jones' fight with Cyril Gane
I can’t comprehend how ppl can actually like Jon jones in or out of the cage
I just like his fighting style and his fight iq im a fan of his fight but as a person out of the cage he's literally devious
@@charusu6624 pissed me off sm when ppl say shit like this bro 😭
@@charusu6624 Yk he’s still the same person when he gets in the cage to fight right?
IKR Jon Jones is trash!
Jon Jones was your goat when he fought Dc with 10 years gap and on steroid. But now autimatically he is a grandpa to fight Tom with just years gap
Alright man. I already knew I don't like Jon Jones, based on all of his piece of sith behavior, but you got me @8:50 mark. So, for all of his BS, and just him being a terrible person, to find out he's a snitch too, DAMN!!! D.C. has every right to hate this dude. There's nothing Jon Jones won't do. Great video.
I never knew this either what a rat 😂
We’re in the age of rooting for the villain. No surprise.
DC gets love now but at the time you could just tell Jon haunted him and how he wanted to point and say I’m not bad Jon’s bad(which was warranted). But That on top of the emotions he showed in the ring and other visible thin skinned moments made people lean towards the bad guy image even more with bones.
DC is a class act bro
1:00 You literally answered your own question in the first minute of the video
How would he not when an Olympic wrestler cant even get one takedown yet Jones threw him around like a little girl.
D.C hate towards Jones is completely justified, think about it. Imagine you're dominating in a sport and you're drug free, you abide by the rules etc. Then this guy blasts gear, beats you infront of the whole world, messes up your record only to be ruled no contest because he pissed hot. Not only that D.C is going to live the rest of his life wondering if it was a fair fight (Jones not doing steriods),if he could have won but he will never know.
jones beat dc 2 times
Because of Jon Jones antics DC was a light heavyweight champion
What kind of audio is this
They let any lame make a video and title 🤦🤦
This is exactly what Devin Haney is going through right now
DC is not a good guy, he is an eye poker
Dc just couldn't beat him he wasn't good enough if they fought a 100 times jon would win
If by good enough you mean that he didn't have a 7/8 inches reach advantage , didn't test positive for roids , and wasn't almost 10 years younger than his opponent , then yes you can say that dc wasn't "good enough" ...
Enemies fighting like they’re in their seventies
when Jon said bitch please
he started gettin them felonies
Daniel had his opportunities but Jon sang him some melodies.
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DC is a stand up guy I'd love to learn from. I respect DC.
Not Jon.
mate what are you talking about becuase no one cares about jon in hw and is literally holding up the division and is ducking his cryptonight tom aspinall far from what dc did in hw.
DC is corporate mouthpiece DC, not fighter DC, and he loves hearing people glaze him even though he was primarily booed his whole career. The narrative was altered with time and that’s so weird. Regardless of what you say about Jon, at that time in the UFC, everyone 125 and up was on a cycle.
I truly believe there’s an immense abyss between real fans and casual fans. Recently I leaned that these “fans” keep repeating things they hear on modern channels like “mma guru” and they don’t even know what happened in real life. Jon beat DC twice; and at their 2nd bout he got accused by USADA’s arbitrators of UNINTENTIONAL CONTAMINATION of b4nn3d substance. For those people who watched the “MPMD” video, you know Derek has absolutely no proof for any of his assumptions. USADA’s investigation does not rely merely on assumptions, but rather on consistent evidences of usage, which was NEVER concluded in his entire career. He just really is the greatest mixed martial artist to ever step a foot in an octagon, but unfortunately people can’t stand a “bad guy” as the undisputed GOAT.
GOATS aren’t terrible human beings. he can beat DC anytime he wants, but DC is a winner in life.
Jon Jones showed us that you dont need to train hard you can just steroid your way thru UFC
u cant not be so stupid
What you don’t know is most champs done or is on steroids from boxing to mma to football to basketball, sports like mma and boxing have programs that keep guys in particular shape, how you think these guys move from 55 to 70 in 2 weeks or 85 to heavyweight in weeks, guys flush these substances out before competition sometimes these guys take so much they cant flush it out on time and they look like Jon jones or Ryan Garcia with a billionth of a gram but don’t you think the khabibs of the world, dcs, Islams, Alex pererias, Izzy’s they all do steroids 😂😂😂
@@marspt29 The problem is, Jon Jones talks all day about how great he is and shit like he didn't failed drug tests left and right, admitted that he was hidding from usada below an octagon and also admitted he pokes eyes on purpose. Annoying af.
lol you could take all the enhancement drugs in the world mate, and u still ain’t touching anyone that jones has beat😂😂😂
@@Inf-1111 I thing is somebody has to beat him for his legacy to be tarnished, besides the dc fight and him testing dirty he’s beaten every other legend with clean results pre usada we can just assume every fighter took steroids
Jones is more like the Tiger Woods of MMA not Jordan lol.
If you fought someone and its compulsory that you're both clean for that fight, and he knocks you out and then you find out few days after that he had more juice than Tropicana, how would you feel??, cheated right?? Cause the guy won, but not fair and square 🤷🏾♂️, now the 1st fight, full credit Jon he showed up and showed out, but he didn't believe in his heart of hearts that he could do it again without the juice🤷🏾♂️...
I'm not a Jon Jones fan but i just dislike all the simple minded idiots that judge him for his deeds as if the same people that judge him are saints. I assure ya'll that ya'll have done disgusting and despicable things but the only difference between jones and the people that call him a bad guy is that Jones is a celebrity so his deeds are public and ya'll are regular people that nobody knows.
Jon Jones is the GOAT.
Roid cheat disqualified
Dc could sue like haney 💀 but fr
Dc worked his way to where he was gets a bunch of hate for being at the top in his prime then, Jon jones comes around gets glazed when he is absent from ufc a lot of the time for his own wrong doings yet dc gets the hate for it. Pretty valid reason to dislike jon jones if you ask me
2:09 is that roid rage?
I would too his hate is completely justified ........
To me if you get caught for ped’s your removed from the goat conversation, let alone shouldnt be allowed to compete. How many times has Jon Jones tested positive now!
Daniel said that Jon could have probably beat him clean, Jon didn't even try to though, he never gave DC a fair shot, so yes, every bit of distaste Daniel has is completely justified, Jon Jones is the Greatest Cheater of All Time.
DC is absolutely in the right, drives me crazy when people make fun of him for his obvious disdain. If you know a bit about DC’s history, it’s not a mystery why he’d hate a dude who harmed a pregnant woman impaired. An obvious steroid abuser taking the shine from achievements would drive any fighter crazy too.
What happened to ur voice? U deleting comments?
I love reading DC supporter’s comments 😂😂😂😂
WE KNOW THIS IS YOU DANA, you dont gotta hide bro we get it you love jones
I understand DC hate for jons.
DC is a really nice guy but Bones is The GOAT!!
DC couldve beaten Jones if it wasn't for PEDs and he'd be the GOAT. You never know.
I am no fan of DC but I truly understand his approach towards the wife beater.
A prime dc VS any version of jon WITH NO STEROIDS, i think we all know who would win
John bones jones
@prettyboyflow4272 casual
@@RightHookEnthusiast nigga u think a young dc beats a young John with No steroids? Did u hear when dc said John would’ve beat him without the steroids sooo u are the casual
Jon jones is the perfect example how corrupt system will never accept it's flaws but try to diminish the ones stood against the system.
It's doesn't help when DC was on top everyone always shit on him because he wasn't jones
Sooo, if Jones credits Jesus for his success, and Jones is a bad person, does that make Jesus bad? Or is this a "God works in mysterious ways" thing?
Jon Jones haunted everyone, inside the cage and on the roads.
Jon broke multiple laws that involved women and used steroids during the rivalry. Pretty hatable guy to me.
Its the same with Ryan Garcia. People know he cheated but they still hate on Davin Haney. People are just idiots
I just always found DC so unlikeable, always yapping about what a good guy he is and how it's Jon who's the bad guy, I don't even care that Jon did bad things, I just don't like dc, whereas Jon is at least entertaining. You can follow all the rules and still be annoying as fuk, that's what DC was always to me, like the kid in school who always snitches on other kids doing wrong and acts like he's a saint
I love MMA, but this is the only sport where an athlete can get caught several times using PEDs and that doesn't affect their legacy. They're still considered the "goat" 😂
Barry Bonds, Alex Rodrigues, Lance Armstrong... any of those names ring a bell?
Only way Jon can save his career at this point is facing and defeating a young Tom aspinal and forcing Dana to make this champion vs champion Francis vs Jon jones ufc-pfl merger
Jon Jones ducking Daniel Cormier! 😂😂😂
Justified hate in my opinion
Disagree about Jones “copying Dc and doing better”.
Jones hw “reign” is a disgrace, beat an athlete that was taken down and out wrestled by Ngannou , seated on the fking belt and will fight and elderly Stipe coming off a loss and 3, 4 years from his last fight.
Dc hw reign was better no matter the result of the JJ vs Miocic fight.
Also roids.
Ya gotta stop with the crying. Even without the roids there is no scenario where DC would ever beat Jones. Jones is just a better striker, grappler, wrestler, and just martial artist in general in comparison to DC. Yeah he done some crappy shit but who gives af? I don't watch the sport to judge character or use fighters as a moral compass. I'm there to watch martial arts and entertainment.
That dude in the crown looks NOTHING like Jon Jones. Lol black dude in a beard... Close enough. Lol
Title is mad disrespectful. Jones is a bum
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JJ. GOAT status. Affirmed.
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@jengofetlupa44 There all juicing, bro. The majority of jon jones opponents have popped for steroids as well
@@migusta. They are not all juicing you are just speculating that. No not the majority of his opponents, literally only a few…
Jon Jones is weak and trash!!! 😂😂😂
He's has a PEDS gut that increases over the years of PEDS use! 😂😂