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Your review of the Callaway Edge set was the reason I found the channel. Bought them as my first new set of clubs when I started up last year and absolutely love them, great quality for a beginner, especially paired with the Kirkland wedges!
It was your Callaway Edge review that got me to finally pull the trigger off buying them and getting into good a bit more seriously and I haven't looked back. Ended up grabbing a great push cart from Costco at a brilliant price too.
the golf bag is a must. I have been using the cart version for a few years now. I love the way it helps me keep my clubs organized, it's lighweight, and the strap on the golf cart goes behind the top pocket. Great video - thanks
I love Costco stuff too! Always get the gloves and balls. I "upgraded" my 15 year old Golden Bear set to the Callaway Edge set from Costco and love it! I just got the driver and I'm still adjusting to it. On my R10 I can hit it long, but it doesn't translate yet to the course. I've been watching for the wedges and will scoop those up if they come back in stock. It must be that Florida Costcos have a better golf section than mine up here near Seattle. Thanks again, Gabe! Keep up the great content!
Great video. I’m playing Kirkland Signature clubs (except my 3w, 3h and 4h). I think the driver is not very forgiving, nor very long. My previous driver is the Callaway Rogue w/ Evenflow, which is about 20 yards longer. I don’t recommend the KS driver. I do, however recommend the KS Irons (if you can find a set), KS Wedges 2.0 and KS Putter. Previous irons are Ben Hogan Apex Forged Blades, Cleveland Wedges and Mizuno Bettinardi BC2 putter.
Great video man, sounds like those irons might be for me! I love Costco and I'm finally starting to score in the low 90s and high 80s more consistently, might be time to upgrade from the old Nikes I've been using
I wish I could walk into my Costco and pick up the drivers and irons. For some reason my Costco ONLY carries golf gloves and golf balls. I still want a Kirkland KS1.
@@handycrew Where? I haven't seen the drivers or irons anywhere and I go into multiple Costcos in the Orlando area weekly. I only ever see the balls (newest version), the Edge sets, some bags, and they always have the gloves.
The most helpful review I've seen on TH-cam. A lot of people seem hesitant about the shafts on the Costco irons. If they release a version 2 with a lighter, more beginner-friendly shaft, it would be great. It’s like a budget version of the P790, but considering the shaft, it seems targeted at a slightly higher skill level, right?
Great video! Thanks for sharing you. I recently reviewed three bags from Costco and took a hard look at the 4th bag they offer (that Pebble Beach bag). I honestly thought the Pebble Beach bag was garbage. Flimsy zippers, very stiff and foldable nylon… didn’t feel quality at all. The Kradul bag they have on their website is absolutely amazing! The Sunday Golf bag they sell is also nice, but could use a couple more pockets. Seriously though… the Kradul bag is probably the best bag value out there. Thanks again for the video.
My top Costco finds: 4-pc ball (v1, glad I stocked up) K-Sig irons KS1 putter + weight kit Wedge set (v1, replaced grips) Stitch SL2 and SL4 bags (tour bag currently holds all my putters)
I just got the Edge set yesterday. I did a ton of research on various sets and I came across your video. A big reason why I decided to get these was based on your review of them. I can’t wait to try them out later this week!
I have the Gen 2 Wedges. Every time I pull an amazing flop shot, spin shot on the green, or pitch out of my butt, I exclaim "Kirkland Signature, baby!". My playing partners are shocked at how well they perform. I trust them implicitly. I'm sure I'd be better with a properly fitted Vokey, but honestly, as a high handicapper, I'd rather put the cash into 3 wedges that seem to suit my game well instead of one Vokey. My handicap has gone down 6 strokes compared to last year at this time, and based on my Arccos data, the one area that I actually gain strokes on is my approach game.
agreed, would i maybe be better w a set of fitted sm10 or mg4, probably. but I love the gen 2 wedges they feel just as good as any other wedge I've tried.
I really like the gloves! Wish the Kirkland logo was a bit smaller but they are so good at a great price that I'll put up with it. Have been gaming the newest Kirkland golfball this season. Love the stress reduction that comes from knowing an errant shot won't cost me $5...
I absolutely love the wedge set. I have had mine for 3 years or more. Just replaced the grips this year to midsize. Probably will pickup another set to have on hand.
I was watching ready to argue your ratings as I love Certain products. You are bang on. The new ball is spinny so if you hit it high I wouldn’t buy it. My KS1 is as good as my Scotties
The original ball was a Nassau Quattro, which are sold in Europe and Asia. They didn't drop the ball due to the lawsuit, they dropped it because Nassau was making balls for some of the big names who threatened to take their business elsewhere if they continued to sell to Costco. Nassau is now owned by Taylormade.
@@LetsPlayThru actually the gold box 4 piece balls were awful.. They were version 2 of the piece. Original 4 piece came in a black box... The gold box was essentially recalled and they refunded everyone and let em keep the balls.. The cover would cut super easy... Like easier than I've ever seen. MyGolfSpy posted my photo of a cut cover on their social media, it was so bad.
Don’t forget today the Legato balls are $19.99 a dozen ! Beats the Kirkland quality! (Prime Day) PS Gloves are good but a little stiff compared to premium Titleist ones .. but for the price no brainer
Great video man! Just picked up some gloves based on your recommendation! Would love to hear what you have to say about the caddytek rangefinder they sell online for $120. Thanks dude!
just an FYI, that isn't the box for the OG 4 piece, it's black, and I've got 10 dozen still in my closet. Great ball, not a ProV1, they were supposedly the cores of a Nassau ball. The box you showed is the 2nd generation of the 4 piece that had a lot of issues with the covers coming off easily. I had a few dozen, good balls, not as good as the OG 4 piece though. The newest 3 piece ball is their best 3 piece ball so far.
Just wanted to make sure you said the gloves were good, cus they are damn good. Same quality as any other glove I’ve ever had for a fraction of the price
I would have put the v3 ball in the meh category. It’s very spinny especially with the driver. I’ve seen it back spin 2 sometimes 3 feet from where it hit the fairway
So question I’m a new golfer and i got a new top flite set for $210. Now is the Costco set of clubs something i should hope to get in a year or two if i stick with golf or how do you decide what you upgrade to?
In a couple years I think you'll want a bit more advanced set than the Costco. It's a beginner set for the most part. At that point, you'll likely want to see a professional and get fitted.
@@LetsPlayThru gotcha thanks! I don’t know what i don’t know. I started 3 weeks ago with a “knight brand” starter set i think from the year 2000 and got addicted and bought the top flites and honestly they feel like I’m swinging pro stuff compared to that knight set.
What’s up with their irons are they back on the shelf yet? I haven’t been to Costco on Rt 40, White Marsh in a while. Are they just avail. on line! Thanks Gabe
They may not come back in stock with the lawsuit from Taylor Made. If you can get your hands on a set secondhand, do it. They are pretty bladey though. I love mine
I'd like to know your rating of the kirkland irons without the poor marketing in the equation. My gues if youd have it up there with the Would Buy category. My rating of my stiff set is pure class 😁
Costco balls are way way overlooked in terms of what you are getting. There are zero balls out there that provide a urethane cover ball at like a buck a ball. If ur a decent player and need bite on approach shots or like to nip it with ur wedges, you can’t beat the bang for the buck
So, the irons with their basic looking design, they dont look like blades to me, but they arent for everyday players but the wedges, which clearly are blades, are for everyone? What am I missing here? Please explain.
I guess maybe I'm a bit more passionate about improving my skills. This is also not the video about skill improvement but, the first driver you shown with adjustments to the loft (cool and fine) and a DRAW setting? to help you avoid slices? That's kinda ridiculous tbh.
I honestly don't know why My Golf Spy is bashing the Kirkland ball so hard. I guess that's their gift. I personally don't think they're my favorite balls. But they are decent value. Not bad.
You need to compare them where they should be compared. It’s a buck a ball. It’s also a urethane cover that bites really well around the green. My golf spy is just shit. I would play the Kirk any day compared to every non urethane covered ball. Anything you buy with urethane is like triple the cost of Kirks
Love the video info . Shipsticks is horrible though. I know they pay you ,but they aren't good.Your clubs aren't getting taken care of any better than airlines
agree 50-54-58 is the best wedge set up (that is what I have)... so why would u put the wedges in buy and pure class if they only come in lofts you don't want (52-56-60)? I used to have a 56-60 and recently switched to 54-58 and it really is a big improvement for me (never really liked my 60)... also, when I was demo'ing my new wedges, I was able to try different grinds and bounces for a couple of weeks before buying them from my pro shop. That is what you get for your money. You can either settle for what Costco sells and compromise, or you can spend more and actually buy exactly what you want... That's the tradeoff
If Costco made super forgiving irons, most people wouldn’t buy them. Everybody thinks they’re a better player than they actually are so a p790 looking club is exactly what they think they need 😂
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Kirkland Signature golf shirts would be sick. They should make one with little tiny hot dog print and watch it go extremely viral.
Haha, def!
😂😂😂
Yooo that would go hard 😂
Bro I would grab that in a heartbeat. Especially with a small $1.50 under it
they do make golf shirts haha
Your review of the Callaway Edge set was the reason I found the channel. Bought them as my first new set of clubs when I started up last year and absolutely love them, great quality for a beginner, especially paired with the Kirkland wedges!
It was your Callaway Edge review that got me to finally pull the trigger off buying them and getting into good a bit more seriously and I haven't looked back. Ended up grabbing a great push cart from Costco at a brilliant price too.
the golf bag is a must. I have been using the cart version for a few years now. I love the way it helps me keep my clubs organized, it's lighweight, and the strap on the golf cart goes behind the top pocket. Great video - thanks
Remember when you decrease loft you also decrease bounce/forgiveness. Leading edge could dig in more often if not striking consistently well.
I love Costco stuff too! Always get the gloves and balls. I "upgraded" my 15 year old Golden Bear set to the Callaway Edge set from Costco and love it! I just got the driver and I'm still adjusting to it. On my R10 I can hit it long, but it doesn't translate yet to the course. I've been watching for the wedges and will scoop those up if they come back in stock. It must be that Florida Costcos have a better golf section than mine up here near Seattle. Thanks again, Gabe! Keep up the great content!
wedges back in stock online for me, ordered a set a few days ago
Wow that’s crazy cause golden bear was my first club set - just sent me down a trip to memory lane
@@njklvdfhasife I just ordered them too!
Great video. I’m playing Kirkland Signature clubs (except my 3w, 3h and 4h). I think the driver is not very forgiving, nor very long. My previous driver is the Callaway Rogue w/ Evenflow, which is about 20 yards longer. I don’t recommend the KS driver.
I do, however recommend the KS Irons (if you can find a set), KS Wedges 2.0 and KS Putter. Previous irons are Ben Hogan Apex Forged Blades, Cleveland Wedges and Mizuno Bettinardi BC2 putter.
Great video man, sounds like those irons might be for me! I love Costco and I'm finally starting to score in the low 90s and high 80s more consistently, might be time to upgrade from the old Nikes I've been using
Thanks for reviewing and providing the details on the Kirkland golf offerings. Really appreciate it!!!! 😊
I wish I could walk into my Costco and pick up the drivers and irons. For some reason my Costco ONLY carries golf gloves and golf balls. I still want a Kirkland KS1.
There’s only so many to go around
I went yesterday to get gloves and balls and there was at least 20 drivers here
@@handycrew Where? I haven't seen the drivers or irons anywhere and I go into multiple Costcos in the Orlando area weekly. I only ever see the balls (newest version), the Edge sets, some bags, and they always have the gloves.
@@jasonvandyke8142 check the new one in clermont frequently. The new stores will be the best odds to find one
How much you want the putter for I’ll sell it to you. Hardly used
The most helpful review I've seen on TH-cam. A lot of people seem hesitant about the shafts on the Costco irons. If they release a version 2 with a lighter, more beginner-friendly shaft, it would be great. It’s like a budget version of the P790, but considering the shaft, it seems targeted at a slightly higher skill level, right?
I love my Callaway Edge clubs. Just bought the bag and it’s a great price.
Great video. Tried the Sun Mountain golf bag. I use a Bag Boy push cart and the bag kept spinning, wouldn't stay straight. Returned it.
You are both the original and best costo golf Reviewer!
Thank you man
Great video! Thanks for sharing you. I recently reviewed three bags from Costco and took a hard look at the 4th bag they offer (that Pebble Beach bag).
I honestly thought the Pebble Beach bag was garbage. Flimsy zippers, very stiff and foldable nylon… didn’t feel quality at all. The Kradul bag they have on their website is absolutely amazing! The Sunday Golf bag they sell is also nice, but could use a couple more pockets.
Seriously though… the Kradul bag is probably the best bag value out there.
Thanks again for the video.
I bought the callaway edge set at the end of last year (the new updated blue model) been playing them all year. Fantastic clubs! Can’t beat the price
How do the blue ones compare to the green goblin?
@@AsadKhan-lm6yr honestly never tried the green ones. So I can’t tell ya. But the blues ones are awesome!
My top Costco finds:
4-pc ball (v1, glad I stocked up)
K-Sig irons
KS1 putter + weight kit
Wedge set (v1, replaced grips)
Stitch SL2 and SL4 bags (tour bag currently holds all my putters)
I just got the Edge set yesterday. I did a ton of research on various sets and I came across your video. A big reason why I decided to get these was based on your review of them. I can’t wait to try them out later this week!
@johngeisler3418 how were they man? Mine come in Thursday and I can’t wait to unbox them and use them soon lol.
@@levileal9963how are they?
I have the Gen 2 Wedges. Every time I pull an amazing flop shot, spin shot on the green, or pitch out of my butt, I exclaim "Kirkland Signature, baby!". My playing partners are shocked at how well they perform. I trust them implicitly. I'm sure I'd be better with a properly fitted Vokey, but honestly, as a high handicapper, I'd rather put the cash into 3 wedges that seem to suit my game well instead of one Vokey. My handicap has gone down 6 strokes compared to last year at this time, and based on my Arccos data, the one area that I actually gain strokes on is my approach game.
agreed, would i maybe be better w a set of fitted sm10 or mg4, probably. but I love the gen 2 wedges they feel just as good as any other wedge I've tried.
The gloves are nice for the price. Many brands I use XL. Large fits me in the Kirkland glove.
I love these ranking videos. Don't ever give them up, Gabe. Just left Troon. Tiger was looking good in the bunkers. Thankfully it stayed dry 😜.
Oh how cool! Are you going any other days?
No, today was it. Crowd was fantastic. Lots of your fellow Americans around. Can't wait till it kicks off on Thursday.
A good video Gabe but as we talked about years ago, no Costco here in Thailand. We know it won't happen but we did try.
I really like the gloves! Wish the Kirkland logo was a bit smaller but they are so good at a great price that I'll put up with it. Have been gaming the newest Kirkland golfball this season. Love the stress reduction that comes from knowing an errant shot won't cost me $5...
I absolutely love the wedge set. I have had mine for 3 years or more. Just replaced the grips this year to midsize. Probably will pickup another set to have on hand.
I was watching ready to argue your ratings as I love Certain products. You are bang on. The new ball is spinny so if you hit it high I wouldn’t buy it. My KS1 is as good as my Scotties
I just upgraded my 1980’s Wilson set to the Callaway Edge set yesterday. Excited to get out and try them out
Congrats 🍾
Got the Stitch bag they have in stock, for 120 its Pure Class.....as long as you don't mind it being a minimalistic bag.
Solid find!
Completely agree about your irons review - took me a little bit of time to get used to them coming from my edge set but now that I am I'm loving them.
After you buy the Edge set, replace grips with oversized.. you’ll thank me for this tip.. actually John daily recommends this..
Love seeing the Bay Hill hat; southern home of Arnold Palmer RIP.
I'm 5 seconds in an you get an immediate like and sub. Instantly clear your content will be good. 👏
Thanks my friend
I look at Costco online every morning hoping for left handed, but always sold out. I guess those 50 lefties bought them all. 😢
I run the current gen wedges and sometimes the balls, really wanted the ks1 putter but got tired of waiting for the RH to come back in stock.
Great videos Gabe , just catching up on all the videos
Thanks Nick!
The Callaway Edge set review from your channel led me to 1) buy the clubs and 2) subscribe.
The original ball was a Nassau Quattro, which are sold in Europe and Asia. They didn't drop the ball due to the lawsuit, they dropped it because Nassau was making balls for some of the big names who threatened to take their business elsewhere if they continued to sell to Costco. Nassau is now owned by Taylormade.
Isn’t Nassau the ball plant that caught on fire last year?
I have the wedges ands the KS1, both outstanding. And I love the head cover on the KS1. Why buy a Scotty when you can have a Kirkie!
Wow never knew they had a 4 layered ball on the market at one point and in a gold box!😮
Yeah, they were pretty awesome!
@@jermdawgg those balls were too good, hence the lawsuit from titleist
@@LetsPlayThru actually the gold box 4 piece balls were awful.. They were version 2 of the piece. Original 4 piece came in a black box... The gold box was essentially recalled and they refunded everyone and let em keep the balls.. The cover would cut super easy... Like easier than I've ever seen. MyGolfSpy posted my photo of a cut cover on their social media, it was so bad.
Don’t forget today the Legato balls are $19.99 a dozen ! Beats the Kirkland quality! (Prime Day) PS Gloves are good but a little stiff compared to premium Titleist ones .. but for the price no brainer
Do you recommend the regular or graphite Callaway clubs
Great video man! Just picked up some gloves based on your recommendation! Would love to hear what you have to say about the caddytek rangefinder they sell online for $120. Thanks dude!
For that price you really can’t go wrong
@@LetsPlayThruI agree!!!
Kirkland KS1 signature putter is a go out and get it! 🐊🏌️♂️⛳️🦅🇺🇲💯
just an FYI, that isn't the box for the OG 4 piece, it's black, and I've got 10 dozen still in my closet. Great ball, not a ProV1, they were supposedly the cores of a Nassau ball. The box you showed is the 2nd generation of the 4 piece that had a lot of issues with the covers coming off easily. I had a few dozen, good balls, not as good as the OG 4 piece though. The newest 3 piece ball is their best 3 piece ball so far.
Just wanted to make sure you said the gloves were good, cus they are damn good. Same quality as any other glove I’ve ever had for a fraction of the price
Another great video as always Gabe. 👏
Interesting bag set up no wood putter covers and irons all over the place the Kirkland gloves in the UK a terrible wouldn't buy again
Nice video! I wasn’t aware there was a version 2.0 on wedges.
The Caddytek push cart and range finder are great deals when their on sale
I game the driver and love it. Would love to add the wedges to my bag. Also use the balls and gloves, and bag! 19 handicap so adds up lol
That’s a lot of savings for sure
I would have put the v3 ball in the meh category. It’s very spinny especially with the driver. I’ve seen it back spin 2 sometimes 3 feet from where it hit the fairway
I have the galleway edge set and I love it. I was thinking about getting the kirkland wedges. But already have 56, is the kirkland 56 better?
Golf gloves. You get 4 cabretta leather gloves for $30. Or you can go buy one for $20 to $30. Love the gloves
So question I’m a new golfer and i got a new top flite set for $210. Now is the Costco set of clubs something i should hope to get in a year or two if i stick with golf or how do you decide what you upgrade to?
In a couple years I think you'll want a bit more advanced set than the Costco. It's a beginner set for the most part. At that point, you'll likely want to see a professional and get fitted.
@@LetsPlayThru gotcha thanks! I don’t know what i don’t know. I started 3 weeks ago with a “knight brand” starter set i think from the year 2000 and got addicted and bought the top flites and honestly they feel like I’m swinging pro stuff compared to that knight set.
What’s up with their irons are they back on the shelf yet? I haven’t been to Costco on Rt 40, White Marsh in a while. Are they just avail. on line! Thanks Gabe
They may not come back in stock with the lawsuit from Taylor Made. If you can get your hands on a set secondhand, do it. They are pretty bladey though. I love mine
I really wish they made gloves that fit like the top gloves. Sometimes the mediums fit like large. I may try small just to see how they work
Great vid. A Kirkland junior set would be nice.
That would be fantastic. Online they often do sell a junior set (not Kirkland branded), but I have not tried it.
Awesome review....have the driver. Dying to get the putter but always out of stock. Any suggestions?
It’s available online right now. Left handed though
Bryson subpar round with a Walmart starter set…. It’s the Archer not the Bow.
ship sticks is a rocking company
And have to order lefty gloves and putter, but worth it
The driver going into "wood buy"...hehe
What are you thoughts on the callaway balls Costco stock?
I'd like to know your rating of the kirkland irons without the poor marketing in the equation. My gues if youd have it up there with the Would Buy category. My rating of my stiff set is pure class 😁
Superbly informative. Thx
My local Costco only has gloves, balls and the Callaway Edge set.
Drivers, putters, wedges, irons, bags, nope not in my local Costco.
It can definitely be hit or miss. Some stores in areas where there are lots of golf courses will have more gear than others.
No website ?
Costco balls are way way overlooked in terms of what you are getting. There are zero balls out there that provide a urethane cover ball at like a buck a ball. If ur a decent player and need bite on approach shots or like to nip it with ur wedges, you can’t beat the bang for the buck
What are your thoughts on the yellow Kirkland balls?
I’ve got a video on the channel comparing yellow to white. I basically think it’s the same ball. might be made in a different factory though.
Welcome to costco, I love you
I would buy the gloves and I think the putter is badass. I wouldn’t game anything else
Wouldve likes to try that original ball but the new one isnt bad just spinny. I got the putter but it didnt work for me
Don't bend the Kirkland wedges. Learned from a fitter that the metal tends to crack from bending.
They don't have any golf gear in the 10 CostCos near me in NY,NJ
Just where did you come up with Costco irons? They haven't had them for a year!
Wait a second, that's my home Costco!
Where can you get the driver and the irons? Nothing shows online.
@@davidjfinn3341 you’re going to have to get lucky in store
Are there any differences between the 2021 and 2024(gold and blue) sets?
So, the irons with their basic looking design, they dont look like blades to me, but they arent for everyday players but the wedges, which clearly are blades, are for everyone?
What am I missing here? Please explain.
Love the videos! I'll stick to Dick's and Golf Galaxy for my golfing needs.
Great content 👌
What about the caddytek range finder?
I guess maybe I'm a bit more passionate about improving my skills. This is also not the video about skill improvement but, the first driver you shown with adjustments to the loft (cool and fine) and a DRAW setting? to help you avoid slices? That's kinda ridiculous tbh.
The San Francisco never has clubs or anything golf 🤦🏻 how can I sue them ?? They only have golf balls and gloves only smh
Grammar
I want to buy San wedges set but they always sold out at my area. MA.
I honestly don't know why My Golf Spy is bashing the Kirkland ball so hard. I guess that's their gift. I personally don't think they're my favorite balls. But they are decent value. Not bad.
You need to compare them where they should be compared. It’s a buck a ball. It’s also a urethane cover that bites really well around the green. My golf spy is just shit. I would play the Kirk any day compared to every non urethane covered ball. Anything you buy with urethane is like triple the cost of Kirks
Thanks for dressing up for the video.
lol
Version 2 wedges are online now!
Love the video info . Shipsticks is horrible though. I know they pay you ,but they aren't good.Your clubs aren't getting taken care of any better than airlines
The Irons are no longer available. Taylormade took them to court because they are very very similar to their P790s at less than half the cost.
They are available there was pallets of them in the Edinburgh store on Friday last week along with the drive and the latest ball
@KennethPreston-xu2oy I'm from the US. Here they are only available second hand and theyre marked up terribly. Please send me some across the pond lol
Need a Kirkland Signature bag and presto
Yes, good call
Are you local to Tampa?!
Now if we can just get the lefty version of all of these in store....
I'll bet dude only eats store brand food. No Doritos in his shack.
Where can I buy that hat guy
agree 50-54-58 is the best wedge set up (that is what I have)... so why would u put the wedges in buy and pure class if they only come in lofts you don't want (52-56-60)? I used to have a 56-60 and recently switched to 54-58 and it really is a big improvement for me (never really liked my 60)... also, when I was demo'ing my new wedges, I was able to try different grinds and bounces for a couple of weeks before buying them from my pro shop. That is what you get for your money. You can either settle for what Costco sells and compromise, or you can spend more and actually buy exactly what you want... That's the tradeoff
Wait...aren't hot dogs golf gear...sort of...you know, at the turn...?
Haha, def
If Costco made super forgiving irons, most people wouldn’t buy them. Everybody thinks they’re a better player than they actually are so a p790 looking club is exactly what they think they need 😂
If I have 14 spots open in my bag to fill with Costco... I'm buying 14 churros.
Make sure to throw in a few dogs! 🌭
@@LetsPlayThru most definitely!
@@AZstu324 😂😂😂
Ft. Myers Costco is wild scene....
KS1 is nothing like a scotty lol