Dead ass though. This game has become so soft and the villains are deliberately too edgy. Someone like VanCleef is a way better villain, even if he is weaker than an Incarnate. He has a tragic backstory, his motives aren’t entirely disagreeable and brings to question the morals of the people who caused him to go down that path. That’s a good villain. That’s good writing. Cut every recent villain in Warcraft and they bleed soy milk.
I will be very surprised if the fight with Fyrakk doesn't end with his sister hugging him and then him having flashback memories of their childhood, you know, sharing an icecream when Fyrakk dropped his, everyone laughing at Fyrakk's milk moustache after a big gulp, both of them crying after their grandpa dragon passed away. Then he steps back and says, in his Mark Hamill Joker voice, "Sister, all I wanted was to be powerful", to which she replies, "don't you see, brother, you were powerful all along. You had the power of love". Then all the Aspects cry and shit. Am I close?
if anyone else said it, I would say f off xD but Kalegos saying it make sense and I didn't feel it was bad writing and completely fine. since it was his theme and what he learned through the Blue Dragonflight lore and questing in this expansion.
what exactly do you want instead? alexstrasza coming out as transgender homosexual ? vyranoth taking pride in being nonbinary intersectional lesbian trying to start litle dragon brainwashing nursery and pushing them to be constantly offended activists ?
I thought people were just being dramatic when they said it was bad but this is genuinely some “morbin time” type dialogue. 19 years and this is the best they could do LMAO
Really is just a power of friendship vibes. Its pretty lame. Also I feel like Fyrakk got turned into a lamer version of deathwing. It all just got resolved way too easy.
19 years of getting worse, especially since BFA. We've already gone from dark fantasy to generic "save the world" plots and and now we're going to B-tier comic book "save the universe" cosmic battle nonsense. They can't write interesting characters anymore and killed all of the interesting ones they had, so they just keep upping the dose of "epicness."
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 in a few expansions we will also swap out Ebyssian for John Cena. Just straight John Cena. Ebyssian will get his own spin off game.
how did we go from the Deathwing finale to this after so much progression. It's like dragonflight and cata should've switched places in terms of the threat and badassery from the antagonists.
@@chickensauna I mean.. even sarkareth still got some final dialogue before finally dead... is the last raid boss of the expansion is just.... lower than sarkareth? XD
@@ValkyrionX2 Sarkareth's final words had to do more with Sabellian and Wrathion than Sarkareth himself...... That's why the cutscene exist... Fyrrak doesn't need one...
Azeroth technically isn't a Titan yet. A World Soul isn't a Titan until it reaches that stage of growth. World Souls always become Titans, that anyone knows of, but 'true' Titans are of Order and are incorruptible. In the World Soul stage, they can be corrupted and become Fel Titans (like Sargeras was trying to do) or Dark Titans (like the Old Gods are trying to do)... or Death Titans (Dreadlords). Once a World Soul fully matures into an... Order Titan (it's never explicitly stated to my knowledge that Titans are inherently of Order, other than them adopting that alignment for the sake of their own 'health'), to deal with it you have to just outright kill it. Azeroth is supposed to become a Titan strong enough to be able to rule the multiverse and all of its Timeways. So just about everyone wants to kill Azeroth now because Azeroth can legitimately kill anyone or anyThing that it wants to, presumably soon.
Unlucky for you we already know exactly where the story is heading and Azeroth has been a titan the whole time :). So it just further compounds the shit tier writing except now we have to wait 7 more years for another chance at decent writing. Fun!@@Veldrusara
Also: Merithra doing the Nelf boob jiggle while saying "We must stop him from destroying our world this is way to seeeeeerious champyen" is way too funny tbh 😂
Later they went skipping along in the medow sniffing the flowers and hugging trees. And all the mean old people withered and died. And sparkles rained down from the sky... the end A+
For real, I don't know what blizzard have done with their writers, we had Arthas destroying a whole damn city for just a little infected grain, Malfurion summoning thousand of wisps to kill Archimonde and all of those wisps and the world tree gone to atoms, etc etc, but instead writers thought it was a good idea to "Yeah guys, when I say "Im not alone" Fyrakk will stop his axe before choping my head and you all will teleport in, although none of y'all said a single word through the whole expac but well, you all were there bcz we are family :)", I really hope Metzen starts to shake things up and make some interesting plots and story cause man, the Disney effect is getting annoying.
To be fair that is all warcraft 3...so far anyway anytime world of warcraft tries to branch out and do something new it shows time and time again that they don't have the ability to produce the magic that warcraft 3s storytelling had.
So who wants to explain to this mouth breather that different people worked on Warcraft III 20 fucking years ago and Wow now? Seriously this isn't even the first time that exact scene has happened and yet you seem to think this is only a new thing, always love it when people who started playing this expac start talking about how far down the game has gone....
@michielblancquaert2996 ehh not really they made some changes that honestly out them in a corner writing wise lile why must there always be a lich king why didn't we just find another way to put the armor back in ice. Why did we defeat arthas in only one expansion. Wish he defeated us at the end and we had to co.e back next expansion and free ourselves from his control.
I feel like the exact moment their writing team died was Sylvanas Vs. Tyrande. Tyrande gets into an epic fight, Elune abandons her, and then everything after that....*fart*. Cool build up into whatever the hell the Jailer and Sylvanas wanted.
How does a multi-million dollar company, still struggle to write dialogue and plot at a intermediate school level? Blizzard has teams of visual artists that are second to none, but their writers hardly convey any sort of qualifications what so ever. Finishing eachothers' sentences?? No one with an honest education in the field would let that slide.
The more i think about it, the more I genuiny beleive this was written by a bot. I have read an article saying the blizz is starting to use AI... and as someone who used to RP with chatGPT before I got pissed at it for ruining the internet, the story melting more the longer it goes and the 'everything was a misunderstanding and we are all friends!' Is VERY chatGPTcore. ChatGPT would try to make everything light and happy and no matter what i did to it to try and get it to spit out a plot with any conflict at all.
@grumbledore424 rip Maraad indeed. As much as I didn't like Warlords it was another expansion that had some great characters they just abandoned at the door.
I can’t put my finger on it, but the way they speak to each other in the ending cinematic is just weird. The way they respond to each other with big dramatic statements that seem aimed into open space, rather than at the previous speaker. It’s less of a conversation and more like each person is reading a teleprompter and other people just happen to be there. Strange choice.
I very genuinely think that is because this is written by chatGPT. I'm not sure how much of the expansion is, but the final cutscene especially feels like it was. Wow writing has always been bad, but this is bad in a very specific way thats familiar if you have spent any time trying to wrestle chatGPT into spitting out a coherent story.
Did Vyranoth just one shot Odyn? Ok, correct me if I'm wrong but Odyn is much older than Vyranoth right? He also wasn't in stasis for 25k or however long years right? He is also the prime designate of keepers right? If all of that is true, how in the hell is he iceblocked by a dragon that wasn't even powered by azeroth yet? Also, I have to agree with the rest. Way too cheesy ending. The game is called world of WARcraft not ponycraft.
In BfA they at least were ambitious with their ideas, like that ballsy (but failed) N'zoth patch. Now it's just Evil McBadguy 31 craving power, with the only interesting thing being the Emerald Dream (where nobody was hyped about for some reason... like seriously; we've been waiting to see this zone since Vanilla and nobody is talking about the fact that we finally see it officially).
@@m1bl4n Prbably because this version of the ED is not very "dreamlike". It looks like an updated version of Val'Sharah. Your point regarding this patch's villian of the week is on point. " I want power to burn all!" just puts me sleep and don't care. Worst of all is the later cinematics during the patch (including the ending). Pure trash
Is Vyranoth now the strongest among the 6 current Aspects? She's a full on primal incarnate. She is already at an aspect level of power. She was never depowered. By further empowering her, she has now double upgrades/blessings unlike the other 5. Her power is equivalent to 2 aspects.
The vibe is that of a cartoon for 8 year olds. Where are the adult themes? Not a single child plays this game lol. I want to feel disturbed, i want to feel uneasy. I want to be asked profound questions with not so simple answers and come out the other side thinking in new ways. That's what good stories do.
@@dennyahh nah he's got a point. this whole "coming together as a family" was a little weird. where's the badassery of these games? It feels like a Disney movie
Lol, I guess idk about nowadays, but I had played WoW when it first came out. I was in third grade then. Played it all the way to Warlords of Draenor (great disappointment after the incredibly long wait at the endgame of Pandaria). So until mid college! About half of my childhood and all of my adolescence.
I tire of the constant "you thought I would fight you, but it's my disciple!" Every...single...time. (Dio meme here.) But at least Fyrakk was making things happen.
@@m1bl4n In Legion if you look into Warrior Artifact History you find that Odyn created the Valkyr through enslavement and subjugation of their spirits primarily. In Shadowlands you find out that Odyn worked with the Jailer to sacrifice one of his eyes to peer into the Shadowlands. In DF you find out Odyn erased much of the world’s original history and replaced it with pro Titan propaganda because he believed the mortal races are too fragile to know the truth. We also find out he thinks dragons are unintelligent species better fit to serve etc. So not a lot of people like him by this point. Of course I still find him to be a real interesting character.
@@m1bl4n Yeah lets just say Odyn has a LOT of skeletons in his closet, and might be the poster child of the titans not being the force of good we were told they were.
We started expansion with tokyo drifting with our dragons Ended it with "family" If next expansion doesn't end with thrall and anduin riding with their horses in different ways and end with thrall saying "you will always be my brother" ThenI don't want it
Ah the power of friendship and family. I was hoping WoW would take a more serious approach with Metzen back, but I see the story is still written like its on Cartoon Network.
As someone who just doesn't have the time but really likes the WoW stories: Thank you so much for uploading the cutscenes! I hope you'll continue to do so in the future,
its been awhile since I watched your videos @Athelarius, glad to see your still posting all the cutsceens. I do have a few questions, are they all in chronological order? or are they shown how you encounter them in the game? also is the ending song the Nordrassil Nightsong?
Hello there. 1st one is "Amirdrassil blooms", 2nd one is "Fyrakk wounds Alextrasza", 3rd one is "Fyrakk enters Amirdrassil" and "Vyranoth beats Odyn" is kind of a side quest in my opinion, I did it last. After you defeat Fyrakk in the raid, you get the "Defeat cinematic" and then "Aspects are empowered"
nothing. The original aspects were all made with a role in mind for each. Vyranoth here just got aspects powers (whatever that means, its not like the unpowered aspects were ever actually powerless anyway) but she isnt a true aspect like the others, being still a proto-dragon and all unlike the dragons that stopped being proto-dragons once they became aspects.
Dudes. The family thing is only brought up cause that was Kalec's whole story during the expac. It's not really the theme of why they got their powers, it's what he took away from this. Same reason as for why Nozdormu adds "as we were always meant to". And we literally had the same kind of dialogue from the original aspects after defeating Galakrond. It sounds a bit cheesy, but it does kinda add up. I don't know how any of you expected this thing to end. It was always gonna be about the aspects coming together again.
@@nobah8131because it is written badly. The story beats isn't the problem, the writing of the story is. This shit is so cheesy and sanitized that every character talks and acts the same, finishes each other sentences like a fucking hive mind. This is worse than Disney marvel/Lucas film writing and that is saying a lot. This is Morbius level of writing
it's cheesy, but also Fyrakk not even showing up for a SINGLE second in the end cinematic of his OWN GODDAMN RAID? Come on even the N'zoth end cinematic feels more satisfying. Overlal this really nails down the idea the whole Xpac is basically filler content. Not awful like shadowlands, but 100% forgettable, and treated as such. I mean, the only 2 things that happened the whoe xpack aspects getting powers back (like they actually were powerless before, its just that their eyes glow again now), and Iridikron is somewhere, doing something. Oh and Vyranoth is a thing too. That's it. Thats the whole Xpack's events summed up, everything else was just saturday cartoon-grade villains of the week, gone as quickly as they arrived (and the primalists as a whoel come from absolutely nowhere with no setup whatsoever) and with no lasting impact as the primalist cause is now already dead and buried with no leader left (since Vyranoth defected and Iridikron left to be a void lord minion). The most grating part for me thing if the deathwing retcon they slipped inhere.. now he was already evil even before he resorted to old god influence. And he didnt listen to the old gods just because he was in constant suffering from his role as the earth-warder either, but just because he was losing a battle. Like, I gte that they want to have a new black dragon aspect without the "constantly feeling the weight of the world crushing you" baggage, but I'd rather there stil not being a black aspect rather than just making neltharion evil all along just because he could.
This is the expansion before metzens return, but we'll see what the worldsoul saga has to offer it will be the first expansions in a while that will go through Metzen
when blizz dug their deepest hole in wow's history and u think that this is rock bottom, somehow blizz manages to go even lower, i'm surprised they did not go full Stitch and go around saying; Ohana means family
I haven't played this in ages and therefore am vastly out of touch with the lore but I liked that no matter what happens...when the dragon mommy calls for aid, everyone drops whatever it was they were doing and help out, lol. Everyone knows it's back to murdering each other afterwards, but mother comes first.
Eh, I'm fine with this ending. It sets up flaws within the titans that has been hinted at for a while, it giving the aspects purpose in defending their world still, and not having to answer to the titans anymore.
@@janl5879 I'm pretty certain at this point their going to declare azeroth is more or something different to a titan and the titans wanted to make her into one of them but she's even more special then that
The idea behind it is likely, that reality and Azeroth is the sum of all cosmic forces, but evers single cosmic force sees itself as superior to the others and by that is fighting for domination = divided. This leads to that eternal war that is the background of WoW what - as every war - is a giant waste of energy. Zovaal on top of that saw the whole reality thing with the mortals as a waste on top, instead of uniting all that power under one cosmic force. from his PoV of course Death and him, what even makes some kind of sense, when mortals lands in the shadowlands anyway, like a second, much longer "life". This was of course not what Sylvanas wanted, so she went against him. It's still unclear how much of Zovaal had been like this from the start or how much he was distorted when he was dominated by the other death gods. Just like Sylvanas he became a victim of Domination magic and even lost part of his soul, likely what united them in the first place. Wasn't his choice to become the Jailer of the Maw, just like it wasn's Sylvanas choice to become an undead Banshee Queen.
god this whole thing, especially the fyrakk defeat cinematic, seems like it was written by chatgpt. ....no seriously, genuine question, was it written by chatgpt?
I know a lot of people are calling it cringe, or stupid, or whatever. I don't think it is. What I DO think is that we've seen this type of conversation and events before, a lot. Mostly I blame Disney for that. But they're not the only ones. What was once heart-warming or epic, now all seems... overdone and silly. I'm not sure how to rectify that.
He left to do other things after the Infinite mega dungeon, we wanted villains to stick around instead of dying in one expansion so he's sticking it seems.
Asmongold said it best. "World of Warcraft is just big, hairy, sweaty men beating the crap out of other big, hairy, sweaty men." aka boys will be boys. Which they aren't allowed to be anymore. 🤣
Where is the defeat cinematic? After the kill this happens. But then there is a cinematic where Alex and Myri heals Vyranoth. When did she got hit? This is so gross and confusing
I swear this comment section makes me wonder what wow players want when it comes to lore. why are wow players SO UNSATISFIED when it comes to story or ANYTHING in the game
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8:04 the voice line and music… what are they from? It’s so enchanting
Truly, the Aspectral Powers were the friends we made along the way.
Power of friendship and family.... DragonFail Is anime adaptation of Fast And Furious. 🤣🤣🤣
@@dahakerei mean did we not tokyo drift with our dragons?
Aspects of friendship
That, and the legendary axe I picked off of Fyrakk's corpse.
Fryakk's Death Scene: I'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these blasted champions and their dragons!
and their friendships
It´s funny we didnt even get THAT
@@GLUFSAREN and their FAMILY
Did fyrak died? This sucks he lost even with shadowflame
Dead ass though. This game has become so soft and the villains are deliberately too edgy. Someone like VanCleef is a way better villain, even if he is weaker than an Incarnate. He has a tragic backstory, his motives aren’t entirely disagreeable and brings to question the morals of the people who caused him to go down that path. That’s a good villain. That’s good writing. Cut every recent villain in Warcraft and they bleed soy milk.
"This is not the titan's magic. It is the magic of Azeroth, a titan."
No, we still do not know what Azeroth is.
@@shaunlydon8234 Umm yea we do. She's one of the greater titans. It's why all seek her.
@@donovan1345 All we know is that the Titans say she is a Titan but they have lied to us lots of times....
one of the First ones
Ah, WoW truly does bring out my childhood days of watching Power Rangers Ninja Storm.
I was thinking it was more Captain Planet.
Bruh...i watched the original MMPR when it debuted...you made me feel.....old ;)
I loosely described the ending plot to my wife and she literally said, "oh like power rangers?" 😂😂
I will be very surprised if the fight with Fyrakk doesn't end with his sister hugging him and then him having flashback memories of their childhood, you know, sharing an icecream when Fyrakk dropped his, everyone laughing at Fyrakk's milk moustache after a big gulp, both of them crying after their grandpa dragon passed away. Then he steps back and says, in his Mark Hamill Joker voice, "Sister, all I wanted was to be powerful", to which she replies, "don't you see, brother, you were powerful all along. You had the power of love". Then all the Aspects cry and shit. Am I close?
You're getting there.
Onlything missing from that cinimatic with everyone entering the dream is "AVENEGERS... assemble ..."
Alexstrasza said "Guardians of the dream", what I heard at first was "Avengers, assemble!".
Thunderfury, Blessed blade of the Windseeker, flies into Alextraza's hands.
"Oh my god! She is worthy!"
@@infantryplanktonThralls old hammer flies into the life binders hands*
Thrall: I knew it!!...
ASPECTS ASSEMBLE
"It was about coming together as a family"
Come on blizz you can do better than that
Kalecgos was for all of the Dragonflight Expansion on the quest for family...so if you are overwhelmed now, maybe a little lore would have helped.
Strong Toretto vibes
They literally can't do better than that.
if anyone else said it, I would say f off xD
but Kalegos saying it make sense and I didn't feel it was bad writing and completely fine.
since it was his theme and what he learned through the Blue Dragonflight lore and questing in this expansion.
what exactly do you want instead? alexstrasza coming out as transgender homosexual ? vyranoth taking pride in being nonbinary intersectional lesbian trying to start litle dragon brainwashing nursery and pushing them to be constantly offended activists ?
You are strong, independent dragons! Nobody can tell you what to do, you chose your own path!
But don't let him escape ...
The only thing missing was everyone jumping up in the air with a cheer, freezeframe, roll credits. Applause track.
THIS CRACKED ME UP DAMN YOU🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought people were just being dramatic when they said it was bad but this is genuinely some “morbin time” type dialogue. 19 years and this is the best they could do LMAO
I almost morbed out of my chair
power of!!!! friendship...
Really is just a power of friendship vibes. Its pretty lame. Also I feel like Fyrakk got turned into a lamer version of deathwing. It all just got resolved way too easy.
19 years of getting worse, especially since BFA. We've already gone from dark fantasy to generic "save the world" plots and and now we're going to B-tier comic book "save the universe" cosmic battle nonsense. They can't write interesting characters anymore and killed all of the interesting ones they had, so they just keep upping the dose of "epicness."
@@OneEightZeroZero
B tier? More like D tier cartoons. My 3 year old watches more complex cartoons.. This is WoW: Paw Patrol
For goodness sake. When's Galvatron gonna return to beat up Fire Lord Starscream?
this comment made my night.. thanks lmao
this is bad comedy
@@Alex876 better than 99% of TH-cam comments spamming the same unfunny memes though
literally morbin time amirite
@@m1bl4n its a thing galvatron said before he blasted starscream in the g1 movie
Scene 1: Worldfast of Warcrafturios: Dragons are family.
Scene 2: Alextrasziumus Prime - Aspects Transform and roll out!
Now I want to see Vyranoth driving a dodge charger up a building while calmly explaining how she's going to use the car to crush Fyrakk's skull in.
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 in a few expansions we will also swap out Ebyssian for John Cena. Just straight John Cena. Ebyssian will get his own spin off game.
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 Hey that would legit be awesome given what we have at this time.
they didn't even transform before they went to fly away, they just supermanned...
how did we go from the Deathwing finale to this after so much progression. It's like dragonflight and cata should've switched places in terms of the threat and badassery from the antagonists.
Everything besides legion has been smaller than deathwing tbh
Shadowlands affects all reality. To ignore that is insane, The legion is tiny compared if the Jailer won@@jackbower9087
@@jackbower9087I mean, smaller scale is fine, and if you go too big like say, the afterlife (Shadowlands), things get bad too
@@jackbower9087Nzoth, Archimonde, Jailer. All much more powerful than Deathwing. Idk wtf you're talking about
@@jackbower9087 Even the eldritch horror who made Deathwing "Deathwing" was less of a threat lmao
Took a line straight from fast and furious
Time for a BBQ
Jesus Christ not even a fyrrak death scene? Are they being fr?
I also thought we will get a fyrakk death and final dialogue or something before that aspectral power.
Athelarius clickbaiting again...
Might have to assume fyrak dies on the spot much like deathwing did I mean he literally blew up right before the dragon soul raid cinematic 😂
@@chickensauna I mean.. even sarkareth still got some final dialogue before finally dead... is the last raid boss of the expansion is just.... lower than sarkareth? XD
@@ValkyrionX2 Sarkareth's final words had to do more with Sabellian and Wrathion than Sarkareth himself...... That's why the cutscene exist... Fyrrak doesn't need one...
"This is not the Titans' magic."
"Azeroth blessed us."
Yet Azeroth is a Titan...
ALERT!!!! ALERT!!! BLIZZARD IS CALLED OUT ON CHOKING ON THEIR OWN BULLSH*T!!! ALERT!!! ALERT!!!
Azeroth technically isn't a Titan yet. A World Soul isn't a Titan until it reaches that stage of growth. World Souls always become Titans, that anyone knows of, but 'true' Titans are of Order and are incorruptible. In the World Soul stage, they can be corrupted and become Fel Titans (like Sargeras was trying to do) or Dark Titans (like the Old Gods are trying to do)... or Death Titans (Dreadlords). Once a World Soul fully matures into an... Order Titan (it's never explicitly stated to my knowledge that Titans are inherently of Order, other than them adopting that alignment for the sake of their own 'health'), to deal with it you have to just outright kill it. Azeroth is supposed to become a Titan strong enough to be able to rule the multiverse and all of its Timeways. So just about everyone wants to kill Azeroth now because Azeroth can legitimately kill anyone or anyThing that it wants to, presumably soon.
Unlucky for you we already know exactly where the story is heading and Azeroth has been a titan the whole time :). So it just further compounds the shit tier writing except now we have to wait 7 more years for another chance at decent writing. Fun!@@Veldrusara
Metzen voice: WORLD OF WARCRAFT! THE LAST TITAN!
@@Logan-ef8hq😂😂😂
By the power of Love, we will defeat Voldemort, . .err .. I mean the big bad dragon
@3:29
Merithra: --all if azeroth will burn
*bounce bounce*
Also: Merithra doing the Nelf boob jiggle while saying "We must stop him from destroying our world this is way to seeeeeerious champyen" is way too funny tbh 😂
Later they went skipping along in the medow sniffing the flowers and hugging trees. And all the mean old people withered and died. And sparkles rained down from the sky... the end
A+
"I know writers who use subtext, and they're all cowards."
- Garth Marenghi, and Blizzard too, apparently.
I like the version where Fyrakk turns into a checkerboard more. It was funny.
This made me miss WoD
For real, I don't know what blizzard have done with their writers, we had Arthas destroying a whole damn city for just a little infected grain, Malfurion summoning thousand of wisps to kill Archimonde and all of those wisps and the world tree gone to atoms, etc etc, but instead writers thought it was a good idea to "Yeah guys, when I say "Im not alone" Fyrakk will stop his axe before choping my head and you all will teleport in, although none of y'all said a single word through the whole expac but well, you all were there bcz we are family :)", I really hope Metzen starts to shake things up and make some interesting plots and story cause man, the Disney effect is getting annoying.
To be fair that is all warcraft 3...so far anyway anytime world of warcraft tries to branch out and do something new it shows time and time again that they don't have the ability to produce the magic that warcraft 3s storytelling had.
So who wants to explain to this mouth breather that different people worked on Warcraft III 20 fucking years ago and Wow now? Seriously this isn't even the first time that exact scene has happened and yet you seem to think this is only a new thing, always love it when people who started playing this expac start talking about how far down the game has gone....
@@lucasmorgan4379 Fall of the Lich King was pretty good, no?
@michielblancquaert2996 ehh not really they made some changes that honestly out them in a corner writing wise lile why must there always be a lich king why didn't we just find another way to put the armor back in ice. Why did we defeat arthas in only one expansion. Wish he defeated us at the end and we had to co.e back next expansion and free ourselves from his control.
I feel like the exact moment their writing team died was Sylvanas Vs. Tyrande. Tyrande gets into an epic fight, Elune abandons her, and then everything after that....*fart*. Cool build up into whatever the hell the Jailer and Sylvanas wanted.
How does a multi-million dollar company, still struggle to write dialogue and plot at a intermediate school level? Blizzard has teams of visual artists that are second to none, but their writers hardly convey any sort of qualifications what so ever. Finishing eachothers' sentences?? No one with an honest education in the field would let that slide.
The more i think about it, the more I genuiny beleive this was written by a bot. I have read an article saying the blizz is starting to use AI... and as someone who used to RP with chatGPT before I got pissed at it for ruining the internet, the story melting more the longer it goes and the 'everything was a misunderstanding and we are all friends!' Is VERY chatGPTcore. ChatGPT would try to make everything light and happy and no matter what i did to it to try and get it to spit out a plot with any conflict at all.
The "I am not alone." Reminds me of Galadriel in the Hobbits.
Or Rend versus Yrel on his ship in Warlords.
@@Thymus At least an important character died to set that one up. RIP Maraad.
@grumbledore424 rip Maraad indeed.
As much as I didn't like Warlords it was another expansion that had some great characters they just abandoned at the door.
Only vastly more lame
I can’t put my finger on it, but the way they speak to each other in the ending cinematic is just weird. The way they respond to each other with big dramatic statements that seem aimed into open space, rather than at the previous speaker. It’s less of a conversation and more like each person is reading a teleprompter and other people just happen to be there. Strange choice.
Most of the dialogue in this expansion is aimed at exploring how everyone feels about everything else. It's one big therapy expansion.
I very genuinely think that is because this is written by chatGPT. I'm not sure how much of the expansion is, but the final cutscene especially feels like it was. Wow writing has always been bad, but this is bad in a very specific way thats familiar if you have spent any time trying to wrestle chatGPT into spitting out a coherent story.
All that's left is for a Dodge Charger to appear outta nowhere and for Vin Diesel to come out of it.
Y'know, because *"F A M I L Y"* and all that.
I stand not alone, AVENEGERS I call to you (music playing)
I feel like I just watched an episode of Care Bears.
Did Vyranoth just one shot Odyn? Ok, correct me if I'm wrong but Odyn is much older than Vyranoth right? He also wasn't in stasis for 25k or however long years right? He is also the prime designate of keepers right? If all of that is true, how in the hell is he iceblocked by a dragon that wasn't even powered by azeroth yet?
Also, I have to agree with the rest. Way too cheesy ending. The game is called world of WARcraft not ponycraft.
Vyranoth is an independent woman out to show she needs no titan.
@@edbotikx 😅😅
No wonder Blizz gave up on this expansion, just like with BFA
....
And shadowlands…and WoD…
those expansions were merely a setback
In BfA they at least were ambitious with their ideas, like that ballsy (but failed) N'zoth patch.
Now it's just Evil McBadguy 31 craving power, with the only interesting thing being the Emerald Dream (where nobody was hyped about for some reason... like seriously; we've been waiting to see this zone since Vanilla and nobody is talking about the fact that we finally see it officially).
@@m1bl4n Prbably because this version of the ED is not very "dreamlike". It looks like an updated version of Val'Sharah.
Your point regarding this patch's villian of the week is on point. " I want power to burn all!" just puts me sleep and don't care.
Worst of all is the later cinematics during the patch (including the ending). Pure trash
Whatever gave you this dumb idea, lol
Is Vyranoth now the strongest among the 6 current Aspects? She's a full on primal incarnate. She is already at an aspect level of power. She was never depowered. By further empowering her, she has now double upgrades/blessings unlike the other 5. Her power is equivalent to 2 aspects.
oh, she gonna be a villain again soon... we gotta kill someone...
Very good point I think she’d be even stronger than 2 aspects considering 3 we’re able to handle all 5 before. She might even close to fyrakk in power
@@edwardness7497 Iridikron is already out there for that role though
Can you believe Kalec made not a single mention of Tyrygosa throughout the entire expansion. Tyri cucked for literally 12 years
Maybe u should put these cinematics in order?
The vibe is that of a cartoon for 8 year olds. Where are the adult themes? Not a single child plays this game lol. I want to feel disturbed, i want to feel uneasy. I want to be asked profound questions with not so simple answers and come out the other side thinking in new ways. That's what good stories do.
weirdo
@@dennyahh nah he's got a point. this whole "coming together as a family" was a little weird. where's the badassery of these games? It feels like a Disney movie
This is what you get when your writers, leaders, game designers and developers are a bunch of purple haired diversity hires, women, fgts and so on.
@@txdmskdo you hate women writers, LGBTQA and feminists ?
Lol, I guess idk about nowadays, but I had played WoW when it first came out. I was in third grade then. Played it all the way to Warlords of Draenor (great disappointment after the incredibly long wait at the endgame of Pandaria). So until mid college! About half of my childhood and all of my adolescence.
6:50 "Sire, I'm sure you could easily break this barrier with the power of your axe... -I won't waste my POWER to cover your FAILURES !!!!"
Honestly, tho, I could watch Vyranoth icing Odyn all day. Most satisfying cutscene so far.
Fyrakk lovers how we doing?
Drowning in sadness :']
Fyrrak is liked?
I tire of the constant "you thought I would fight you, but it's my disciple!" Every...single...time. (Dio meme here.) But at least Fyrakk was making things happen.
I didn't expect Odin get rekt cus of the Dragons
He deserves worse.
@@rickywyness5230 I completely missed out on Odyn lore, I thought he was a good guy. Why is he so hated?
@@m1bl4n In Legion if you look into Warrior Artifact History you find that Odyn created the Valkyr through enslavement and subjugation of their spirits primarily. In Shadowlands you find out that Odyn worked with the Jailer to sacrifice one of his eyes to peer into the Shadowlands. In DF you find out Odyn erased much of the world’s original history and replaced it with pro Titan propaganda because he believed the mortal races are too fragile to know the truth. We also find out he thinks dragons are unintelligent species better fit to serve etc. So not a lot of people like him by this point. Of course I still find him to be a real interesting character.
@@m1bl4n Yeah lets just say Odyn has a LOT of skeletons in his closet, and might be the poster child of the titans not being the force of good we were told they were.
I liked the Odyn part.
He's had it all coming.
warcraft lord of the rings turned into a warcraft disney/fast and furious power of family.
We started expansion with tokyo drifting with our dragons
Ended it with "family"
If next expansion doesn't end with thrall and anduin riding with their horses in different ways and end with thrall saying "you will always be my brother"
ThenI don't want it
"Fyrakk must be stopped, no matter the cost".... You got the touch!... If you know, you know :)
And just like that, hype shrivels and dies
Beyond tired of the power of friendship at this point, the stilted dialogue doesn't help.
Alexstrasza’s performance is mediocre. Talking like a sloth from Zootopia doesn’t make her appear wise.
@@CPNTT She hot af tho 🥵🥵
1:33 I cringe so hard
Remember that old Metzen Warcraft art of the orc holding a human's head? Yeah...we went from that, to this.
Ah the power of friendship and family. I was hoping WoW would take a more serious approach with Metzen back, but I see the story is still written like its on Cartoon Network.
Tbf, Warcraft has always been a bit cartooney.
But yeah, this one feels like a Disney story lol.
Metzen works on the next expansion this is still the previous people
@@m1bl4n At least it feels like an actual Disney story, not like the abysmal recent ones. Thats not a high praise, just worth mentioning.
Metzen will be on the next one buddy not this one. Pay attention
"Fyrakk must be stopped - no matter the cost."
*_the Touch_** by Stan Bush starts in*
As someone who just doesn't have the time but really likes the WoW stories: Thank you so much for uploading the cutscenes! I hope you'll continue to do so in the future,
i will be honest that ending is lame
i guess chriss metzen is only for marketing team well he did great job market 3 half expansion that cost 90$
I know a lot of people really despised this cinematic, but the music in the first part is incredible.
Sorry, I could not hear all the music behing the thunderous CRINGE
Dwarven vow number seven. Justice and love will always win.
Lloyd: ugh, i hate that saying 😂
They actually did it.
They made an ending worse than shadowlands.
Now that’s impressive.
Shadowlands was much worse lol.
Why do you constantly have the cutscenes out of order?
Still don't understand why you insist on not putting cinematics in order...
And repeating them in other videos. Something I've noticed too, it's a bit annoying.
its been awhile since I watched your videos @Athelarius, glad to see your still posting all the cutsceens.
I do have a few questions, are they all in chronological order? or are they shown how you encounter them in the game?
also is the ending song the Nordrassil Nightsong?
he posts the same clips in different orders multiple times. I have no idea which come when anymore
@@GLUFSAREN ya its a lil frustrating to watch when ur just tryna catch up on lore ;-;
Agreed. There’s no point
Hello there. 1st one is "Amirdrassil blooms", 2nd one is "Fyrakk wounds Alextrasza", 3rd one is "Fyrakk enters Amirdrassil" and "Vyranoth beats Odyn" is kind of a side quest in my opinion, I did it last. After you defeat Fyrakk in the raid, you get the "Defeat cinematic" and then "Aspects are empowered"
I assume this means Vyranoth is an aspect now? But aspect of what, exactly?
Ice cream
Ice or something?
nothing. The original aspects were all made with a role in mind for each. Vyranoth here just got aspects powers (whatever that means, its not like the unpowered aspects were ever actually powerless anyway) but she isnt a true aspect like the others, being still a proto-dragon and all unlike the dragons that stopped being proto-dragons once they became aspects.
5:25 i totally thought alexstraza was about to say "AVENGERS, ASSEMBLE"
They did an entrance like Avengers Endgame
Everytime I thought "Should I back to wow?" then I just watch the retail villains, lore and other content and I just "well, nevermind"
Farming mounts is more interesting anyway
Fast and Furious: Dragonflight
I wish this was just a joke but sadly that's exactly how it came across...now I just need Vin diesel riding in on a dragon talking about family
The writing in this game is like some cheap after school special at this point.
Dudes. The family thing is only brought up cause that was Kalec's whole story during the expac. It's not really the theme of why they got their powers, it's what he took away from this. Same reason as for why Nozdormu adds "as we were always meant to".
And we literally had the same kind of dialogue from the original aspects after defeating Galakrond. It sounds a bit cheesy, but it does kinda add up. I don't know how any of you expected this thing to end. It was always gonna be about the aspects coming together again.
THANK YOU. It's really not that big of a deal.
@@nobah8131because it is written badly. The story beats isn't the problem, the writing of the story is.
This shit is so cheesy and sanitized that every character talks and acts the same, finishes each other sentences like a fucking hive mind.
This is worse than Disney marvel/Lucas film writing and that is saying a lot.
This is Morbius level of writing
it's cheesy, but also Fyrakk not even showing up for a SINGLE second in the end cinematic of his OWN GODDAMN RAID? Come on even the N'zoth end cinematic feels more satisfying.
Overlal this really nails down the idea the whole Xpac is basically filler content. Not awful like shadowlands, but 100% forgettable, and treated as such. I mean, the only 2 things that happened the whoe xpack aspects getting powers back (like they actually were powerless before, its just that their eyes glow again now), and Iridikron is somewhere, doing something. Oh and Vyranoth is a thing too.
That's it. Thats the whole Xpack's events summed up, everything else was just saturday cartoon-grade villains of the week, gone as quickly as they arrived (and the primalists as a whoel come from absolutely nowhere with no setup whatsoever) and with no lasting impact as the primalist cause is now already dead and buried with no leader left (since Vyranoth defected and Iridikron left to be a void lord minion).
The most grating part for me thing if the deathwing retcon they slipped inhere.. now he was already evil even before he resorted to old god influence. And he didnt listen to the old gods just because he was in constant suffering from his role as the earth-warder either, but just because he was losing a battle. Like, I gte that they want to have a new black dragon aspect without the "constantly feeling the weight of the world crushing you" baggage, but I'd rather there stil not being a black aspect rather than just making neltharion evil all along just because he could.
5:55
*Reads the comments*
My reaction: 6:34 to 6:39
Are you guys ready for a trilogy of this? 🤣
Jajaja next exp is about #thasword
This is the expansion before metzens return, but we'll see what the worldsoul saga has to offer it will be the first expansions in a while that will go through Metzen
That is not in order at all.
Athelarius never makes these in order. He prefers to start with the "most interesting" clip, and often repeats it later.
Watch this at 1.2 speed for a more natural sounding conversation -.-
when blizz dug their deepest hole in wow's history and u think that this is rock bottom, somehow blizz manages to go even lower, i'm surprised they did not go full Stitch and go around saying; Ohana means family
I haven't played this in ages and therefore am vastly out of touch with the lore but I liked that no matter what happens...when the dragon mommy calls for aid, everyone drops whatever it was they were doing and help out, lol. Everyone knows it's back to murdering each other afterwards, but mother comes first.
Eh, I'm fine with this ending. It sets up flaws within the titans that has been hinted at for a while, it giving the aspects purpose in defending their world still, and not having to answer to the titans anymore.
isnt Azeroth basically a Titan itself...so..they got powers...by ...a Titan
That's what I thought too@@janl5879
@@janl5879 I'm pretty certain at this point their going to declare azeroth is more or something different to a titan and the titans wanted to make her into one of them but she's even more special then that
It really doesn’t set up those flaws well at all. That stuff came out of nowhere during Shadowlands at best.
@@MrOrcshaman Azeroth will be the same as the "first ones"
Why are the clips in some random order
Let’s go, we are the azeroth moment
how this is in chronological order :D
Blizzney back at it again....
"A cosmos divided, will not survive"
The idea behind it is likely, that reality and Azeroth is the sum of all cosmic forces, but evers single cosmic force sees itself as superior to the others and by that is fighting for domination = divided. This leads to that eternal war that is the background of WoW what - as every war - is a giant waste of energy.
Zovaal on top of that saw the whole reality thing with the mortals as a waste on top, instead of uniting all that power under one cosmic force. from his PoV of course Death and him, what even makes some kind of sense, when mortals lands in the shadowlands anyway, like a second, much longer "life".
This was of course not what Sylvanas wanted, so she went against him.
It's still unclear how much of Zovaal had been like this from the start or how much he was distorted when he was dominated by the other death gods. Just like Sylvanas he became a victim of Domination magic and even lost part of his soul, likely what united them in the first place. Wasn't his choice to become the Jailer of the Maw, just like it wasn's Sylvanas choice to become an undead Banshee Queen.
WoW without a retcon of the Shadowlands, will not survive
that was a sick ending for hello kitty island adventu...oh wait.. wow.. you know. our game about war...and stuff...
Next expansion has been revealed:
World of Warcraft: The Misgendering
@@txdmskare you a trumpist ?
They should have done something awesome like got their powers back and whooped his ass.
Can’t believe Naruto therapy has reached these lands too….
Bro did you really have to flex that Grand Marshal title 😂😂
Dragonflight started amazing and ended.. lame
started Lame and ended lamer!
It didn’t end yet.
Ended better than Shadowlands tbh
What you mean all the princesses regain their mojo
You're very scared that The World Within will suffer The same issue
Was not expecting storm drakes this patch!
neither was Odyn...
the cringe is SO STRONG
god this whole thing, especially the fyrakk defeat cinematic, seems like it was written by chatgpt.
....no seriously, genuine question, was it written by chatgpt?
How ya gonna do my boy Odyn dirty like that though
I know a lot of people are calling it cringe, or stupid, or whatever. I don't think it is. What I DO think is that we've seen this type of conversation and events before, a lot. Mostly I blame Disney for that. But they're not the only ones. What was once heart-warming or epic, now all seems... overdone and silly. I'm not sure how to rectify that.
Did I miss something isn't iridikron still alive?
he's in space
@@truce3038 I just think they forgot about him
Get lost...@@user-ol2pk9kz7o
He left to do other things after the Infinite mega dungeon, we wanted villains to stick around instead of dying in one expansion so he's sticking it seems.
At least they remembered the sword in Silithus now.
The new ending is even wors then the shadowlands ending
Capp😊😅😅
And people complained about the jailer ...
And here I was hoping blizzard writing improved
How foolish of me
My Little Whelp - Dragonkinship is magic!
You all want the new expansions to be more gritty, manly, brutal, dark and full of testosterone isn't it ?
Asmongold said it best. "World of Warcraft is just big, hairy, sweaty men beating the crap out of other big, hairy, sweaty men." aka boys will be boys. Which they aren't allowed to be anymore. 🤣
Where is the defeat cinematic? After the kill this happens. But then there is a cinematic where Alex and Myri heals Vyranoth. When did she got hit? This is so gross and confusing
I swear this comment section makes me wonder what wow players want when it comes to lore. why are wow players SO UNSATISFIED when it comes to story or ANYTHING in the game
Is this piano loop in the game, I couldn't find it in the DF SOUNDTRACK DOES ANYONE KNOW?
one part of fyrakk themes
"Unity, duty, destiny..." - Turaga Vakama
i cant believe that warcraft has come this far
*sunk this low
@@dissect123 you're 7 years late to say that