Finally found awesome SEED! 1518025118 Steam geysers right next each other and close to start (SouthWest). Natural gas directly north and south, southern very close. Oil geyser DIRECTLY south from Dupe pod. And Chlorine south east through a nice vein of abysalite. Not a lot of slimelung to contend with to get a good base going and plenty of algae and water around starting point. Great map!
If you were to put two columns of this separated by one tile and made the middle tile in to a vacuum, wouldn't that be a perfectly thermally insulating naphtha liquid lock? That could be cool when going to the oil areas or dealing with magma or having a cold farm for sleetwheat in your base.
Hello. Thank you for talking about my water lock system! For those who wish to build the one tile water lock: One thing that you should be careful with on the one-tile water lock is that the duplicant's breathing can displace the water, as can slime and bleach stone, or anything else that releases gas. The naptha-lock at 8:30 would work just as well with water as with naptha, though perhaps you could put more naptha in the corner than the ~30g of water and prevent the lock from breaking by gas displacement (breath-proof)? Occasionally, if duplicants run through a shallow pool, holes appear in the water due to duplicants exhaling (it sometimes makes my thermoregulators flood for a little bit). Does this happen if there is only one tile of liquid, but there is a larger mass in that tile? My current solution gas displacement is to not move things like slime and bleach stone through these waterlocks and put CO2 above it so the dups can't breathe, but maybe naptha provides a better solution. You can't do a one tile lock with more than 40 g of water, but you can with naptha. I should experiment with higher masses of liquids and exhaling, as well as see how much liquid I can get to stay in one tile. Also, completely inexplicably, the one tile waterlock only works down an to the right, which is something I will probably never understand. This still confuses me. This game has weird quantum laws....
Today I learned for the first time in 100 hours in the game that they can crawl through 1-high spaces after climbing 2 blocks. Good to know. Corner crawly locks :D
From a previous experiment, we know the airflow tile can manage infinite liquid pressure, what i'm wondering is if the liquid bottler as the same properties. With this, we can have 2 tiles wide tank managing infinite pressure to stock/retrieve the naphta.
You said that crude oil can burn how would you do this? Hydrogen is very flamible in real life and in some cases, explosive. Could you do these in ONI and how.
i just wondering, how someone 'move' or 'teleport' something using debug tool? cause i want to experiment with steam geysers by moving near to my testing area
I love the random dead guy lying around. Also, this will obviously get fixed in the future, but I hope the devs create some new weird late game substance with these properties because this is pretty hilarious.
Could you do an experiment where you put all of the Experiments and Tests you've made, and put them into one Base. Just to see how it would all work together.
I guess so. But there is only so much you put into one base as there is only 1 temperate area.What I mean is using all every area on the map and every feature on the map, Gas Geysers , Oil wells Pufts, Morbs and so on. As I have seen in some videos certain features are needed, Such as Geysers.
Does that 1 tile lock work with water? I have not left liquids sitting around for too long to see if it will stay on a 1 tile pillar. The design is very clean, simple. Nice.
If you jump through it... do you still get the debuf? Looking at the frame where it broke through the algae, they would not "touch" the wet floor, as they jump from one dry tile to the other, through the liquid. (Not sure if it will count the "mid-air" flying as a "contact", as standing in a half/full tile of water counts as soaked/soggy.
Brothgar there is going to be a new event on Adventure Capatalist and it looks like it is its going to be its first time ever on the game. Do you think u can do it? It starts October 13th
So you could use a Naptha column to potentially dig across the whole map. Would it be possible to get the pressure high enough to breat through to the outside?
It is very glitchy for sure. Depending on what plastic and molecular weight you're using, HDPE for example, will only melt into liquid plastic around 120-180c, and start to burn not much later than that.
Liofa part of the problem is that there aren't very many clean solutions to problems that are presented, especially if you aren't in the extreme lategame
Lol, this was intended guys. Sadly I can't play the game because it costs $20 on steam, anyone willing to donate a copy of the game to me? I've wanted to play this game for a while now ;-; my Steam is: Delfite
Its no cheat, this was Intended otherwise they wouldn't have implemented it in the first place Trust me on this since they are the creators of Don't Starve Together and this game is extremely popular One thing I hope they don't do in the full release of the game is if they remove debug mode before I even get the chance to buy the game ;-;
Been using that liquid door for a while, it could be any 2 types of liquid as long its less than 30g. i.imgur.com/I8Dvoyd.png There is a flaw tho, it only works if both gases are unbreathable, if dupes exhales CO2 while passing, the door will be broken, CO2 will push the water out. Using only 1 tile of water in a corner could potentially fix it. Edit: Nope never mind, 1 tile gets pushed out as well. Naphtha does not make a difference.
Yay! Someone else did the experiment! I know of this issue. However, you can easily use my design (from 7:54) make sure CO2 is in the tile above the water. It doesn't go anywhere. It will also naturally occur if duplicants hangout in that area. I often build the hole, put the water in, then move a dup there until the CO2 is present. That way the dups can not breathe in the water lock and thus can never displace it. I also make sure they can't breathe on the other side of the waterlock, but that might just be paranoia. It is nasty if a chlorine storage container leaks. You still have to make sure bleach stone and slime and polluted dirt cant get through, but that isn't too bad. They also only work down and to the right (the horizontal reflection is not air tight). I don't understand that aspect of the physics of this game.
I have a warning for all of you that play this game, last night I did a restart and after I had set it up I was looking around the edges for pollution ie SlimeLung disease and I found it in the pool of fresh Water that was in my starting zone, and it is Fresh Water ... don't play blindly, always check first.. I had that lake all set up and ready to be the Dups first water source, what a shock I took all my pre planning out and went for the deep water first, duh..I did report it to Klei, I hope its a bug.
I agree that it would be nice if there were a true air lock, but until one is implemented, the waterlocks are certainly not pointless. Even if they create proper airlocks, I will still use my corner waterlocks to keep the chlorine in the food area because it makes accessing the food faster. If they make a true airlock, it will be at least 2x2, if not 3x2 and will require the dup to wait for a bit to get through because that's how actual airlocks work. The corner airlock would almost certainly be faster in many cases.
let the plastic where its get out of the machine and let it lay down there, the plastic machine makes inetnse heat.... gg why so big useless building... sry no offense, not my first language....
Finally found awesome SEED! 1518025118 Steam geysers right next each other and close to start (SouthWest). Natural gas directly north and south, southern very close. Oil geyser DIRECTLY south from Dupe pod. And Chlorine south east through a nice vein of abysalite. Not a lot of slimelung to contend with to get a good base going and plenty of algae and water around starting point. Great map!
Love these discoveries :-)
This is genius! Such a simple solution to those annoying airlocks that don't lock air in at all...
If you were to put two columns of this separated by one tile and made the middle tile in to a vacuum, wouldn't that be a perfectly thermally insulating naphtha liquid lock? That could be cool when going to the oil areas or dealing with magma or having a cold farm for sleetwheat in your base.
Incoming patch...
yeahh its so overpower
this is brilliant!
Brothgar i love the fact you havent changed because this isnt trending anymore you earned a sub
you could build a pneumatic door over the naptha to control where each dupe goes
Hello. Thank you for talking about my water lock system!
For those who wish to build the one tile water lock:
One thing that you should be careful with on the one-tile water lock is that the duplicant's breathing can displace the water, as can slime and bleach stone, or anything else that releases gas. The naptha-lock at 8:30 would work just as well with water as with naptha, though perhaps you could put more naptha in the corner than the ~30g of water and prevent the lock from breaking by gas displacement (breath-proof)? Occasionally, if duplicants run through a shallow pool, holes appear in the water due to duplicants exhaling (it sometimes makes my thermoregulators flood for a little bit). Does this happen if there is only one tile of liquid, but there is a larger mass in that tile? My current solution gas displacement is to not move things like slime and bleach stone through these waterlocks and put CO2 above it so the dups can't breathe, but maybe naptha provides a better solution. You can't do a one tile lock with more than 40 g of water, but you can with naptha. I should experiment with higher masses of liquids and exhaling, as well as see how much liquid I can get to stay in one tile.
Also, completely inexplicably, the one tile waterlock only works down an to the right, which is something I will probably never understand. This still confuses me.
This game has weird quantum laws....
Today I learned for the first time in 100 hours in the game that they can crawl through 1-high spaces after climbing 2 blocks. Good to know. Corner crawly locks :D
lol!
Awesome community discovery! I love your channel! I wonder what else is out there that no-one's thought of....
Bug fix incoming? I'd say yes.
Subscribed. You sound smart and your voice is great too!
So ... Naptha as an Airlock for a Crude Oil farm thanks to the Shlicks (Or whatever those Oil-Slimes where called again)
From a previous experiment, we know the airflow tile can manage infinite liquid pressure, what i'm wondering is if the liquid bottler as the same properties.
With this, we can have 2 tiles wide tank managing infinite pressure to stock/retrieve the naphta.
Won't work as the liquid bottler doesn't count as a solid tile, so it will just burst out the top
This is very good one, I take back what was I insulting you for.
FYI - seems it's been fixed in the beta of the upcoming Occupation-Upgrade.
Dayum, that's a game changer!
I tried doing the naptha air lock, but when my dupes run over it alot, the puddle of naptha falls down.
You said that crude oil can burn how would you do this? Hydrogen is very flamible in real life and in some cases, explosive. Could you do these in ONI and how.
So much I've not seen since I last played...
4:26 One element you say...What about Carbon Dioxide? Those are 2 elements.
Good one :D but in ONI it is one gas.
polymer presses are SUPER hot when running, i wonder if you could have them pull doubleduty for heating while creating plastics?
i just wondering, how someone 'move' or 'teleport' something using debug tool? cause i want to experiment with steam geysers by moving near to my testing area
This game is so damn cool!
I love the random dead guy lying around.
Also, this will obviously get fixed in the future, but I hope the devs create some new weird late game substance with these properties because this is pretty hilarious.
I wonder if at some point walking through chlorine will give you the Acid Burn debuff.
Could you do an experiment where you put all of the Experiments and Tests you've made, and put them into one Base. Just to see how it would all work together.
I'm pretty sure that's part of what the mega base series is for
I guess so. But there is only so much you put into one base as there is only 1 temperate area.What I mean is using all every area on the map and every feature on the map, Gas Geysers , Oil wells Pufts, Morbs and so on. As I have seen in some videos certain features are needed, Such as Geysers.
Have u done the 1% land event on Adventure Capatalist
They Gonna fix it I think. I mean it is rly cool but I know I won't do it for my base fixing this later would be a pain
Does that 1 tile lock work with water? I have not left liquids sitting around for too long to see if it will stay on a 1 tile pillar. The design is very clean, simple. Nice.
The answer is no. If Naptha remains like it is it will be the magic door
How about horizontal naptha air lock?
For example:
" = " - wall
" _ " - naptha
walls ===__naptha___===walls
It can't float
Brothgar thank you..
If you jump through it... do you still get the debuf? Looking at the frame where it broke through the algae, they would not "touch" the wet floor, as they jump from one dry tile to the other, through the liquid. (Not sure if it will count the "mid-air" flying as a "contact", as standing in a half/full tile of water counts as soaked/soggy.
Brothgar there is going to be a new event on Adventure Capatalist and it looks like it is its going to be its first time ever on the game. Do you think u can do it? It starts October 13th
Simply fantastic, thank you for this discovery. Very helpful. XD
haha, don't think I was playing ONI at this point. that's hilarious.
so does this mean that you will use some naptha airlocks in your megabase series?
Interesting , might be patched tho . I mean does naptha work like that IRL?
4 years later hows your game?
One year later, does this still work?
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How do you spawn that geyzers?
3:23 poor shine bug
whats the paint tool you use in ONI
I knew there'd be people sciencing the crap out of the game, sooner or later.
So you could use a Naptha column to potentially dig across the whole map. Would it be possible to get the pressure high enough to breat through to the outside?
are you sure thats not some bug?
There's no way this is the intended behavior...
It is very glitchy for sure.
Depending on what plastic and molecular weight you're using, HDPE for example, will only melt into liquid plastic around 120-180c, and start to burn not much later than that.
Yeah, I don't like this approach to the game, it's exploiting the code. It's not an engineering solution.
Liofa part of the problem is that there aren't very many clean solutions to problems that are presented, especially if you aren't in the extreme lategame
Lol, this was intended guys. Sadly I can't play the game because it costs $20 on steam, anyone willing to donate a copy of the game to me? I've wanted to play this game for a while now ;-; my Steam is: Delfite
how to use this cell painter ? This is some special mode ?
Michał George its in one of his vids dont remember but you have to ask earlier next time
How do you get steel? o.o
Nice little cheat there I'm sure they won't leave it in the state for to long but at least we can have some fun with it while it lasts 😆
Its no cheat
Its no cheat, this was Intended otherwise they wouldn't have implemented it in the first place
Trust me on this since they are the creators of Don't Starve Together and this game is extremely popular
One thing I hope they don't do in the full release of the game is if they remove debug mode before I even get the chance to buy the game ;-;
Debug is usually a temp thing, They''re probably replace it with a creative mode
Patch target confirm!
Been using that liquid door for a while, it could be any 2 types of liquid as long its less than 30g.
i.imgur.com/I8Dvoyd.png
There is a flaw tho, it only works if both gases are unbreathable, if dupes exhales CO2 while passing, the door will be broken, CO2 will push the water out. Using only 1 tile of water in a corner could potentially fix it.
Edit: Nope never mind, 1 tile gets pushed out as well. Naphtha does not make a difference.
Yay! Someone else did the experiment!
I know of this issue. However, you can easily use my design (from 7:54) make sure CO2 is in the tile above the water. It doesn't go anywhere. It will also naturally occur if duplicants hangout in that area. I often build the hole, put the water in, then move a dup there until the CO2 is present. That way the dups can not breathe in the water lock and thus can never displace it. I also make sure they can't breathe on the other side of the waterlock, but that might just be paranoia. It is nasty if a chlorine storage container leaks. You still have to make sure bleach stone and slime and polluted dirt cant get through, but that isn't too bad. They also only work down and to the right (the horizontal reflection is not air tight). I don't understand that aspect of the physics of this game.
naptha[nafta] a.k.a. diesel
Hey hey oxygen not include should have ethanol disinfector because ethanol is use in real life
Lol so you melt plastic into a liquid, and it then requires absolute zero to solidify again. Good meme klei.
It's pronounced "nafta" :)
RIP Abe
What are you talking about?
@@JoeWere min 1:00
@@kath_erinelara LMAO
I think this is a bug, so it will be patched in next updates :(
Its no bug only one element can fit in each block and the can crawl through liquids so its no glitch
so is naphtha now useless?
Maybe just call it NaFta?
game physics liquid have anti gravity and water is slimy
Neat
How bout we put 0.00000 (insert bout a billion zeros here) 000001 grams of some liquid to protect the base from 3984748374747484 tonnes of gas?
Not gonna lie, thought you were saying NASA with a lisp...
NAF-TUH
Naphta is car fuel, also known as gasoline or petrol.
YES! First View, Like and Comment
13th like at 13 minutes old. Funny thing is I was thinking there should be a vid about now.
4th lol good vid even though I’m still watching 😂
I have a warning for all of you that play this game, last night I did a restart and after I had set it up I was looking around the edges for pollution ie SlimeLung disease and I found it in the pool of fresh Water that was in my starting zone, and it is Fresh Water ... don't play blindly, always check first.. I had that lake all set up and ready to be the Dups first water source, what a shock I took all my pre planning out and went for the deep water first, duh..I did report it to Klei, I hope its a bug.
its actually -5 kelvin (absolute zero minus five)
Abe is dead btw
As cool as this is.. its pointless.. the doors should work as an airlock
Doors can leak if there is heavy traffic. You can end up with chlorine in your base and then in your gas pipes. Waterlocks can never leak.
You don't get my point, powered airlock doors should not leak to start with. the doors leak yes.. but should not leak..
I agree that it would be nice if there were a true air lock, but until one is implemented, the waterlocks are certainly not pointless. Even if they create proper airlocks, I will still use my corner waterlocks to keep the chlorine in the food area because it makes accessing the food faster. If they make a true airlock, it will be at least 2x2, if not 3x2 and will require the dup to wait for a bit to get through because that's how actual airlocks work. The corner airlock would almost certainly be faster in many cases.
I don't really like these exploits, I prefer engineering solutions.
let the plastic where its get out of the machine and let it lay down there, the plastic machine makes inetnse heat.... gg why so big useless building... sry no offense, not my first language....
185th
Dictionary open? Click the little pronunciation button for crying out loud, It's your own language... God my ocd is screaming in agony.
so your Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is screaming in agony?