These Are The Mistakes That Screenwriters Make Again And Again - Shannan E. Johnson

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  • Shannan E. Johnson, a native of Houston, TX, is a former creative executive at The Syfy Channel turned CEO of the first black-owned script consultancy in the entertainment industry, The Professional Pen. The Professional Pen is a writer-centered service provider helping emerging and established creatives develop their stories for the screen.
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  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is our full interview with Shannan - th-cam.com/video/EUd5hZL62MA/w-d-xo.html

  • @andrewgraeme8429
    @andrewgraeme8429 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Shannan nails it again! And she's as beautiful as ever!

  • @Ruylopez778
    @Ruylopez778 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Shannan is somehow able to articulate things in such broad terms, in a straightforward way, while still providing nuance and depth. It feels so authentic. She has specific examples that hammer home her point precisely, and give a sharp does of reality, but also the actionable solutions that make it very motivational. I think it must come from being an expert observer of human behaviour and a high degree of empathy. Where other commentators in the industry would resort to banal, convenient or reductive narratives, Shannan connects the dots for the viewer with actual insight, while still treating them with respect. It's a great pity there isn't a Shannan involved with every movie, tv & streaming project, or perhaps there is but people are too egotistical to listen.

    • @level_ken5231
      @level_ken5231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly why I would love to get into her courses.

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@level_ken5231 I wouldn't be able to relocate for her courses, but I would definitely pay for her feedback if I had the funds available.

  • @harrybanks5607
    @harrybanks5607 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She is truly good!

  • @blainemarcano
    @blainemarcano ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You need to know to express that you’re right without saying, “I’m right.” It’s got to be through the writing.

  • @jimm3370
    @jimm3370 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ms. Johnson is a master of her craft and such a talented instructor. Thank you for this. I really REALLY hope that a woman of this caliber is cleaning up in H'wood.

  • @tbroan169
    @tbroan169 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    SHANNAN!! Thank you FilmCourage. You guys don't miss. And thank you to the interviewer, amazing as always, asking the right questions.

  • @rebeccaoliver7977
    @rebeccaoliver7977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What I love about Shannan is she values everybody in the process. I didn't think I'd ever want someone reworking my script. I can better see how people need to develop the rewrite skill or just keep generating great ideas and let the people who can't come up with ideas, focus on sharpening a great idea.

  • @tonykono5225
    @tonykono5225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like Shannon’s way of giving notes ahead of time so the writer can digest them.

  • @nickybjammin7629
    @nickybjammin7629 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I understood everything she explained this’s a lot to articulate it’s an inner woven verbal process between people. And don’t be scared to ask or take the time to make sure they understand what you need to know.
    I’m gonna listen again though but that was pretty amazing.

  • @SonGoku-xi7dv
    @SonGoku-xi7dv ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i'm so in love with this lady's brain as a script consultant. I just want to stick it in a jar in the most non violent non creepy way. She's a genius.

  • @shadethedon8351
    @shadethedon8351 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shannon is definetely the goat of this whole FILM COURAGE channel ! 🔥

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One more segment left to publish with the full interview on deck. Here are our previous interviews with Shannan - th-cam.com/video/pwcTge9iF0E/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/Bp0pDjVxN9U/w-d-xo.html

  • @matt2matt21
    @matt2matt21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love me some Shannan! Always so articulate, but right to the point with no BS.

  • @TamirYardenne
    @TamirYardenne ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She's the best!!!

  • @jeffmcmahon3278
    @jeffmcmahon3278 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great analogy with the essay. Spot on. Maybe I did something correct years ago when I registered my business name as 'EssayFilms" (it was supposed to be a play on the terms South Australian Films but this has given me some extra credence I never anticipated.) Thank you Shannan.

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is the toughest problem you face in writing screenplays?

  • @candellina6
    @candellina6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah... it's good to finally have time to sit down and watch these kinds of videos again 😅

  • @bodyhairpositive9485
    @bodyhairpositive9485 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shannan E. Johnson is amazing. Please upload the full interview! :)

  • @Speed202
    @Speed202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She actually knows what she's talking about and provides concrete examples. Oftentimes, the guests here seem to be making up answers off the top of their head.

  • @keeganwebb7777
    @keeganwebb7777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent teacher.

  • @BionicDance
    @BionicDance ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *WHAT EXECUTIVES SHOULD NEVER DO:* Insist that a script tick every box on the Popular Movies Include These™ checklist.
    *ESPECIALLY DON'T:* Insist on a love story. Don't demand that the protagonists get it on if they don't in the original draft. Gratuitous, unnecessary, unwanted most of the time. Completely out of place, given the premise of the movie.
    _"Eeek! We're being attacked by sea monsters! Quick! Kiss me and maybe they'll go away!"_ (I'm looking at _you,_ "Deep Rising". And I got more.)
    Seriously...stop that.

  • @lillyfluffy1636
    @lillyfluffy1636 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great discussion.

  • @afrosymphony8207
    @afrosymphony8207 ปีที่แล้ว

    really great advice.
    i remember fincher giving similar advice about how knowing the ins and out of your script is great for communicating to ppl why your idea or ur "way" is the right way to do things, especially the ppl financing the movie. unless ur david lynch or sthng not many studios will give u money to do whatever floats ur boat lool

  • @mixboy79
    @mixboy79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and valuable information. It's crazy how it's such a common flaw about the inciting indecent.

  • @russellpuerini7573
    @russellpuerini7573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shannen is so clear. The best there is. I wonder if she also has connections

  • @user-vw6xp5nl6t
    @user-vw6xp5nl6t ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just pick their best note and make one significant change. This is so they can’t technically accuse you of being difficult.

  • @MsMarmima
    @MsMarmima ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought of stories being similar to essays lol

  • @spencercharlotte297
    @spencercharlotte297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shannan is great

  • @bradyarguin
    @bradyarguin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What video do we get to see the chalk board filled out? 👀

  • @marsilv4319
    @marsilv4319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She is just the best. I swear her name alone is clickbait!

  • @gregorylagrange
    @gregorylagrange ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a lot of people can make an extensive list of movies to illustrate why executives are seen as the enemy.

  • @TheOneChartine
    @TheOneChartine ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤

  • @kuramobay2445
    @kuramobay2445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basically, executives who have read one or two screenwriting manuals decide what they want to read and the screenwriters deliver. There is no singular vision. There's no director working with the writer. This is executive-curated content. AI is perfect for this sort of writing, plus AI doesn't give attitude.

  • @chefchronos4288
    @chefchronos4288 ปีที่แล้ว

    being a DM for DnD or any RPG is a good exercise without even knowing it.

    • @Decova1337
      @Decova1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you tried Mathew Coville following his example can improve your DM skills. Also Guy from How to be a Great Gm. Web DM is pretty good too.

    • @taewoods2034
      @taewoods2034 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? I can't understand what you are saying lol

    • @Decova1337
      @Decova1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taewoods2034 www.youtube.com/@mcolville
      www.youtube.com/@WebDM
      www.youtube.com/@HowtobeaGreatGM
      3 DMs that can help anyone out on being a DM

  • @RenBen10
    @RenBen10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with most artists, is they’re taking advice as law. Get the necessary technique down and find your own voice. Listen to all, follow your own voice. Your art will be taken on for hundreds if not thousands of years. Don’t be formulaic.

  • @osw330904
    @osw330904 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Writers are vastly too underpaid to jump through so many hoops with people (executives/producers) who dont understand screenwriting…

  • @jerrop
    @jerrop ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey fellow film makers I am in Kenya(Africa) and I wanna come to los Angeles but I don't know how?? am 17 years old please drop your comments

  • @Thenoobestgirl
    @Thenoobestgirl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why are these executives the ones giving the notes if they're not even trained at story structure etc? 🤨
    Seems to me that who should be giving those notes is a good writer themselves...

  • @thereccher8746
    @thereccher8746 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She's confusing the inciting incident with the Act 1 set-up.

  • @samantaluna3870
    @samantaluna3870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do people really make screenplays with no incident incident or goal? Thats basically the base of a story. 🤨

  • @Decova1337
    @Decova1337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a writer just tell them F off. What is problematic for one person doesn’t mean it’s problematic for the audience.

    • @enumajek1764
      @enumajek1764 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you aware of the consequence of doing that or you just said what you did for fun?

    • @Decova1337
      @Decova1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@enumajek1764 the consequences are you can get fired or HR gives you a little chat.
      But as a writer you should never go by the opinion of a single person no matter what authority their occupation holds. The emotions or even trauma that can be triggered isn't necessarily your fault.
      In general there is a decent proportion that are okay with problematic events, some are even completely are unfazed.
      The generalization of "problematic" phrasing is completely subjective. The error could be grammar. Could be boring, could be lack of romance. Could be that the person thinks they need an explanation because they are not knowledgeable on the subject or even think the audience needs hand holding. etc...
      The only time it is when it is consequential is when do so maliciously or is in clear violation of a nation's law. Or the fact you don't put a warning label.
      Talking smack on the internet is a given form of emotional and psychological vulnerability that everyone is at risk of experiencing

  • @SDIBINGA
    @SDIBINGA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im telling yaull Shannan is DIFFERENT. Ive spent thousands of dollars on notes and coverage and NOONE explains things as clearly and gives ACTIONABLE notes like Shannan

  • @halfdayofthejackal9372
    @halfdayofthejackal9372 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolute gibberish. We wonder why movies are unwatchable garbage these days, it's because there are two dozen "untrained note givers" for every artist.

    • @IndiephantomSofaSinema
      @IndiephantomSofaSinema ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I totally agree. Screenwriting teachers are the biggest grifters in the industry.

  • @charltonm9147
    @charltonm9147 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry but, NO NO NO NO!!!!

    • @luca414s
      @luca414s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      why?