The Sad Truth About Female Rappers
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Within the complex infrastructure that we know as hip-hop, its place as both an art form and corporately influenced culture has meant that it isn’t necessarily a comfortable space for anyone. No matter how solidified you feel your place in it may be, at any time, you could be jostled out and find yourself careening towards irrelevancy.
Often, it can feel that there simply isn’t enough space within the public’s affections nor the frontlines of the game for every talented artist to receive ample coverage or fanfare. But while this is a treacherous minefield for the men in the game to navigate, the difficulty increases tenfold if you’re from the opposite gender.
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Aight homies. I'm tryin to listen to some good female rap. Y'all got like a list of your favorite rappers I can check out?
Nope.
Tierra Whack, Rhapsody
Nicki, doechii, kentheman
Nah
young ma
Any guy saying he gets to screw a girl because she works for him is grotesque. No music can hide that level of disgusting.
He should lose his contract deal and endorsements
@@angeluvsvidnot defending that type of behavior because that's absolutely disgusting. But the fact that is your gut reaction is also super toxic and overall a bad mindset to have tbh.
@@non_brewed_condiment he wanna take her dignity and her worth not to mention integrity and self respect so yeah he should lose something in the process the total machination that gives him the ammunition and power to hold over these women the means for them to go live with their art as well be able to sustain their careers and support their own families he should had thought about the repercussions of his actions took her licensee contractual payment for features with dignity and move on as it stands i hope it happens to every other Top Artists /Producers who decides to violate others rights for a feature or song produced
@@angeluvsvid again, I'm not defending his actions at all. But what you're suggesting doesn't actually do anything to promote a real change or prevent this from happening to someone else. It's why "cancel culture" or whatever you want to call it is a flawed solution. It just fills the emotional desire to get revenge on someone who has done something deplorable but rarely does anything to actually create real, lasting, cultural change. The idea is that he gets deplatformed and then because of that others who might be inclined to behave the same way will be less likely to for fear of the same repercussions but that almost never happens. It just makes those kind of people watch their step, go to greater lengths to hide their behavior and find more subtle but equally brutal ways to cause harm. As I said, deplatforming fills an emotional desire to see someone who has done something wrong be punished or "get what they deserve" but it's not a real solution, it just gives the illusion of being a solution. Real solutions that actually help people are complicated, they take time and they rarely result in the emotional satisfaction that punishment does but they are what's needed if we actually want to put a stop to this kind of behavior.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished, I think he does, but we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that does anything to create lasting change.
Kodak Black is a Predator
What’s always been so wild to me is that when I, as a straight black male, used to acknowledge my favorite female rappers, I’d be called gay and looked at differently simply for recognizing the talent? The argument was always “If you’re listening to this then you must resonate with it deeply” like why can’t I just respect it?
@Kadimus Baratheon you buggin
@Kadimus Baratheon Damn man who hurt you?
@@pkamvp Could you give the guy above you a hug? Someone hurt that guy bad!
It's the same reason that growing up as a metal fan my metal head friends would act as if its sacrilege when I'd say a pop song was good, it's just general insecurity in your own sense of self. Some people mistakenly tie a genre of music or gender of a musician to something deep within them that they refuse to deal with and just judge and hate others for not having those same issues. If enjoying a song sung or rapped by a woman turns a guy gay then I think 100% of men would be gay because damn I can list about a hundred great songs by female artists I recognize.
@@michaeltwinn4819 “who hurt you” feminine mindset
The way they (Kodak and Ross) openly admit to being sexual predators is sickening.
He blatantly said he is entitled to them sexually. It was disgusting.
@@oratiletsimatsima9643 Scary even, I wouldn't want any female I know to be around them.
This is the entire industry...and all these women that make it big have given in one way or another...ppl are just reluctant to mention it. How can one talk about being sexually exploit in the industry but then make sexually provocative music unless directed. Who wants to teach young girls to be vulgar and or act like men...that's all constructed and these women play the game and get in line in one way or another plain and simple there's no denying there's a price for fame and these men hold the key to their success in these male driven industries. There's no field ran by women that men didn't give women the access to so that means men still run it behind the scenes.
@@Dreadboi1990 Just bc one has access doesn't mean they have to be a predator. It's predominant in white collar as well, what should we do as women? Shirk back from applying for a corporate job. Sexually provocative music doesn't mean a person is inviting sexually provocative behavior. I don't believe in listening or propelling sexual music nor dressing sexually, that doesn't mean a greenlight should be given to treat a SUBORDINATE in a sexual manner. People like LATTO got money so she ain't having it.
And everyone worships these losers it’s crazy bro
If these rappers were working in corporate jobs this would be considered harassment. This is really disgusting and is being laughed at like it's funny!
Who's laughing? I'm just asking.
@@elijajackson9651 Look at the Rick Ross bit, that's what they mean
@@anonfalco7880 he's asking whos the person laughin with ross
Facts
and if most female rappers were working in corporate jobs they would be considered prostitutes & escorts. so what's your point?? and women have been exploiting themselves to get what they what from men since the beginning of time so it's hilarious to watch you black feminist cl0wns in this era of karen culture. drop the every-woman-is-a-victim mentality. it's silly.
I'm surprised that there wasn't further discussion on female rappers having to meet high physical standards of beauty. It seems that if a female rapper is not conventionally attractive and/nor hypersexual then they won't be able to achieve as much success and widespread critical acclaim. It is the double-edged sword of the current era of female rappers owning their sexuality for financial gain.
But what I don't get is there are those who are making inroads based on substance and not style, i.e. Noname, Rhapsody, etc.
I guess if they want to make it commercially - extraordinarily so - then yeah, but it's not the only way to make it.
I think that's a misnomer there. For one there is a difference between ''owning their sexuality'' and overt hyper self-sexualization. The latter being what most of these females do. Secondly they don't have to go this route, that's similar to saying male rappers have to rap about gangster or street life to make it......you can CHOOSE that route if you want to follow trends or copy others/ do what sales, or you can choose not to.
@@T.H.E.O.R.Y. I mean Noname retired because she felt she wasn't being embraced by the culture while Rapsody seems to be the exception. There are others but they are considerably underground.
A lot of men find a lot of female rappers unattractive. You're thinking of Nikki Minaj, Meg, etc but you're forgetting about people like Young MA who couldn't give a fuck about looking attractive to men.
Nobody wants to look at a unattractive women.. not even other women
Kodak on that Harvey Weinstein vibe.
Lmfao openly
@George Gershwin what are these girls you speak of. What is a woman?
@George Gershwin so if a woman has a carreer she shouldn't call out groomers, predators and abusers? Let's remember Kodak admited to raping an underage.
Your comment is ridiculous
he's black, he'll be aight..
It's disgusting
Eve is highly underrated. She was highly skilled and was sexy without "using her sexuality" and she still is never mentioned. So even if you walk the perfect tight rope, there are no guarantees.
Rap seems to be the only genre to constantly label artists as female. You rarely if ever hear Stevie Nicks referred to as one of the best female rock singers of all time, or Whitney Houston as one of the best female pop singers of all time. They’re just topping lists of best singers or vocalists of all time. Dolly Parton isn’t one of the greatest country female artists, she’s just one of the greatest country artists period. No one would have a problem debating Aretha Franklin vs Frank Sinatra but if you did Nicki Minaj vs anyone on most top 15 rapper lists, a lot of people would find it a laughable comparison. They’re all rappers, why is adding the “female” always necessary?
exactly 👏🏼💯
Because the origins of the nature of rap are very male oriented - even more than other genres. It's just what it is, the idea of showing and proving is more of a male trait than it is female. Even when the ladies rap, it comes off like girls rapping because of their feminine energy - which is not a bad thing but it's not what old heads listen to hip hop for. I think the new generation will change that but it will take a while before that happens.
@@mildmayheadless5217 That's the issue, male rap has done like everything at this point at been on the charts in someway. Most people would say now with female rap if it ain't raunchy it ain't poppin' like that. Which is a means to gatekeep women too that they need to be sexual to get that pop. When hip hop is overall about being real, so people do check if they're really about that life they're talking about. I think a lot of people check women's sexuality like "no way in hell you doing all that" like how they check dudes when they say they "bust guns, push product, have hoes".
Facts man
Was writing this comment, and decided to scroll down and saw yours. Well said! Couldn't have put it better myself.
There's a lot to mention when it comes to this subject, but the mistreatment of Rico Nasty by Playboi Carti's fans while she was opening for him on tour is def something to discuss.
I've been to so many concerts where they treat the openers like dirt. It's sad. She's a phenomenal artist.
Playboi Carti & Rico have 2 completely different fanbases though
@@cam-3461 yea not sure why she even agreed to open for him lmao
Has nothing to do with the fact she’s a women.
@@Wizardkelly808 It does have a lot to do with the fact she is a woman. People feel more comfortable disrepecting her, than if a grimy male rapper was on stage. You can't tell me they'd throw a bottle at a male rapper, and not expect to get laid out on thee floor.
Nah just cause Nicki has the sex appeal and does throw in some sexual bars, does not discredit her from being a great lyricist. If you really get into her catalogue, this woman can spit bars like a top MC, without it being about sex or her body. People just like to generalize her because of her mainstream stuff, but her albums can prove otherwise.
She's a good a lyricist and better that most male rappers today.. But saying she's a top MC is an over exaggeration
Nicki Stans get pregnant at 16
"can spit bars like a top MC" LMAO
Let’s be honest Nicki is a great rapper but no where near a top tier lyrical rapper thought she’d do it with Queen but she dropped the ball for majority of the album
Nikki can hang with females of any era lyrically. These other girls are pretty much new charli baltimores
Little Simz is the perfect example of how a female rapper can gain respect by the people by just being themselves and not trying to fit in within the industry. she is honestly the best female rapper in the world rn and its not even close imo.
I totally agree, she's crazy talented.
Simz is absolutely wonderful, but the problem isn't the person trying to fit within the industry, it's the industry moving the goal posts, and the frequently toxic, click-bait community that pits that person against another who may share the same race, ethnicity, or gender.
Who
Where do you find these people couldn't find her on TH-cam
@@shaunbit8910 she's deffo on youtube but shes been big the UK for a while
Just when I thought Kodak Black couldn’t be a bigger clown I go ahead and listen to the first minute of this video. 🙄
I think one thing that holds female rappers back is the inability to evolve or progress their sound. Emphasizing sex in all of their music is a problem as well. I honestly think it hurts their music because you’re making your performance more of a visual than it is audio.
The best musicians on the planet can make music without needing to “see them”. Daft Punk has a 25 year, multi millionaire dollar career and no one has ever seen their faces.
Kodak black is the goat
@@brooklyn1daful bro I drunk , even 21 is better than him 😂😂😂😂
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Pusha T has been making drug lord coke raps for two decades. Jay Z has a career consisting of mainly two types of content: albums about how he used to sell drugs and how rich he is. Future's entire shtick is how he's a drug enthusiast and toxic. But somehow y'all always end up circling back to this tired talking point that women who rap are stagnant and have one sound (sex). I've bought every Nicki Minaj album and listened to all of her mixtapes. It's impossible to listen to any of her projects and just hear sex. Cardi B has one album, what's a song on it that's comparable to "Big Booty Hoes" or "Nasty Boy" by BIG? And even if they rapped entirely about sex, make that same complaint about the men that rap. It's not like 2 Live Crew, Too Short, or UGK (Megan Thee Stallion literally being influenced by Pimp C) ever shied away from sex, especially the first two. "Pop That 🐱," We Want Some 🐱," "BJ Betty," "Face Down 🍑 Up," "The F Shop," "Me So Horny," "Cocktails"....it's laughable how long I can go on with these songs. And I'm not even going to dissect the part about visuals because there isn't enough time in the world to to that. I'll just say refer to "Disco Inferno," "Tip Drill," 95% of 2 Live Crew's videos, and "Taste" and leave it at that.
@@hotpockets69 you missing one crucial point.
THEY MAKE great fucking songs
yea it feels the best female MCs are underground/independent (ex. Rapsody, Che Noir, esp. Little Simz)
exactly. and likely with male MC's for the most part.
You should also checkout Ivy Sole (I think Ivy Sole is non-binary actually), Leikeli47 and Tkay Maidza who also just released this year.
Right now, they’re pushing “female rap” as if it’s a specific genre- which is it consequentially becoming. The content matter is all the same, same type of beats and even the visuals are the same. They’re trying to make every female rapper fit into a package that is marketable for crossover and due to it being watered down, it is making it look like women can’t rap. That simply isn’t true. We’re currently dealing with the repercussions of having an industry plant (Cardi B) from the clout era who openly said she was just using hip hop as a come up being pushed to ‘queen’ status just because people wanted to see Nicki have a rival. Female rap isn’t an aesthetic… it should just be about fly MCs who just so happen to be women.
I’m serious, though, check out all those artists lol. I’m tired of the best female
Che fire and she'll never be a commercial success.. she'll keep a pocket fan base just like rappers like WestSide Gunn will.. he'll never be commercial but he'll eat with his fans forever
Little Simz is so talented
Cakeswagg is the best female rapper in the underground scene !
Nicki Minaj, Lil Kim, and other who write their own music and can wrap about anything. Nicki killed MONSTER which stapled her as a great. She was keeeping up with the best of um
Biggie wrote Lil Kim's bars. She was never the same when he died.
m LOL LOL OOO
lol Lil Kim and Nicki Minaj? Those two hos aint got shit on La Chat or Gangsta Boo
Y’all gotta let that monster verse rest😭 Nicki got way too many verses that are lyrically better than monster.
@@TheeManiBrazyFacts! That verse from her is overrated asf
The main issue is that ACTUAL MCs get no love cos they don’t shake their ass and spit about hyper sexual shit all the time. Che Noir, 7xvethegenius, Rhapsody just to name a few are unbelievable lyricists and have flows and rhymes that rival any MC regardless of Gender. I completely understand what some of these women go through and how abhorrent it is, but even they themselves don’t put any of their fans onto incredible women that can rap amongst the best, or even uplift them. I’m probably gonna get a lot of backlash for this as well and I understand a certain aspect of this could be label pressure, but if I’m listening to an entire album of “fuck men” & “my pussy so tight and my ass is fat” then I’m not going to take them that seriously. There’s a fine line between being sexually empowered and then being overtly hyper sexual just to sell songs and records. We live in an age where independent artists can make a pretty amazing living and build a great fan base without the intervention of a label. Doja cat said “they’ll put you in a box” but at the same time, she isn’t trying to break away from that formulae? Again the label has a lot of control of these women for sure, but I rarely see an attempt to change or switch it up.
This situation with men and females, is literally everywhere, not just in the music industry. Just look at the Activision/Blizzard lawsuit.
good example between music and video games
Men and FeMaLeS. Weird.
Not in real life.
@@mygrandpasayshesd.b.cooper6200 yea very much in real life.
"men and females"
😂😂😂 this whole culture is against each other. These rappers are their own downfall.
Literally
True indeed
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Let's start there🔥🔥🔥!!!
As a woman musician this is disturbing. This is why I'm staying an independent artist. Thanks for your videos ✨🎶🐎🔥
Nicki Minaj need her respect for never fuckin a producer/rapper for shit. Female rappers gotta deal with so much and it takes so much energy to control your career like how she did. Top 5 rap artists period.
If you think Nicki Minaj never fucked a producer/rapper you're delusional. I'll name one Meek Mill, that was public.
Periodt
Why whe Gotta give These Artist Probst for Not fucking the whole industry Like thats Just normal
Lmao you really believe that you been sold a dream.
"Rapper" not "artist."
As long as they push sex they get radio play..when they actually on consciousness & being lyrical they don't really get no play & I hate it,its really some ladies that got bars but cuz they don't look a certain way or aren't selling sex they don't get no promotion or notoriety...in my opinion
Male rappers who are conscious get no radio play either.
@@10onit ???? Literally 2 of the most celebrated artists of our generation, Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole, have conscious rap as part of their catalog. TF?!
@@seeyoucu Uhhhh planez and wet dreamz isn't conscious, both song are rapping about xxs. Conscious rappers like joyner Lucas, hopsin, daxx who make corny conscious music with each record are not on top 😂.
@@seeyoucu it’s true, however they still need those “radio hits” to build the hype. Which is the genius of a song like “Humble” because it had some meaningful messaging with a more popular/current sound.
A big factor in making it big is relatability, not just how good of a rapper you are. The music has to connect.
Think about it for a second, everyone that’s at the top…their music connects with a wide demographic, conscious or not. I’m not tryna generalize but a lot of female mc’s I’ve seen aren’t relatable. There’s a few talented ones that aren’t about all that sexual “my pu**y the best” bullshit, but at the end of the day I can’t relate with them, only pay my respects and continue listening to the artists I connect with.
Even the female rappers I listen to, it’s never a lot in their catalogue, just a select few songs that caught my attention
I think Nicki Minaj is the golden standard. She has constantly released good solo music and collaborations. She’s a good lyricist, she’s got good beats, she can switch up her flows and is pretty creative in changing herself musically and in the eyes of the public. She has also started showing that even if she has a nice body she doesn’t necessarily have to show it off. This body positivity and reservation is something that I would like to see more with women rappers. This isn’t just dressing to show skin and claiming body positivity as their reason especially since it hasn’t been shown to be effective. If they think they are too sexualized, instead of showing more, show less to imply they are more than their body.
Missy is the gold standard
@@madddoggnogood1491 Bingo
L Boogie could have been that standard if she dropped a couple more albums so Missy is that standard.
@@madddoggnogood1491 I agree. But Nicki was minted from her mold. They both amazingly good.
@@madddoggnogood1491 well buy her shit when she put it out, Missy last album, nobody bought it but keep saying she’s the best. Where’s her fan base? Nicki has a fan base like no other In rap
@@victorious1929
Im gonna assume you are under the age of 21.
And i forgive you for that nonsense
Excellent episode, I've been very impressed with your videos and have subscribed.
This is what makes the ground that Rapsody stands on so pure.
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Sa- roc is also pretty damn dope saw her and Rapsody in concert the best time ever
Then why don’t y’all buy her music 🥴
but yall dont support her
Yet yall don't buy her music. Yall only want to use her for examples of how a woman should act
In my opinion the saddest part of female rappers has to do with Gatekeeping. So many young girls try their hardest to break out of the box to become acknowledged as artists. But once they do so, they all seem so reluctant to assist and help other female artists shine. So many other reasons I can't delve into, but female rapping is like the amazon, to women, there can only be one
I see where you are coming from, however there has been a lot of females placed to be someone’s competition and their replacement cause that’s just what the industry wants. So it can be nerve racking to think you can be used to boost your replacement then discarded. You have to move smart and not just give your “clout” to anybody. I think men have more successful collabs and are more comfortable collating because the only “one” rule doesn’t apply as much.
Nicki helps but also gets used.
@@nikibronson133 This rhetoric of Nicki Minaj being used by up and coming female rappers is tired and old 😴 the girls genuinely love her but she wants people to kiss her ass 24/7 and you can’t even breathe next to anyone she has a problem with.
It is very clear that this newer generation enjoy collaboration and it is also quite clear the one person who is not quite ready to relinquish some of her power/influence.
@@nikibronson133 Nicki only helps girls that are already buzzing she don’t help the lyrical ones
The rapper's voice back then was so distinctive. Missy, Lisa left eye, Lil Kim, Queen Latifa, & Lauryn hill
You forgot foxy brown
@@TunaMayoInumaki yea foxy is another one as well
And who I think is the one of the G.O.A.T.S ..... Mia X
Mc lyte too
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Thank you for an interesting video!!
Thank you for speaking out for an issue of a gender that isn’t yours. And using your platform for good. It is really heart warming to see
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I agree 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Yeah, its All Disgusting tbh. SMH!
@@desmondclark3193 no uterus, no opinion- unless it’s a positive opinion
@@Ebola-Kun there’s nothing positive about this.
"I Gotta buss em" is crazy 😂 0:31
Bruh 😭
Bro!!!! I was like huuuuuhh???😳
Bruh😂😂😂💀 yak a real one
Stop laughing that not funny
@@reactiview2194 r u backing him ????
I'm So surprised that kodak comment didn't have people flipping out "imma buss em" LMAO 🤣
Can you even imagine someone bussin him? Ew. Same with Rick. I mean two ugly rappers using their position to sleep with beautiful women because they can't any other way (other than paying for it). Smh.
Right!!! It was major creep vibes
Agreed. It is very weird to just say that.
Kodak sounds just as ignorant as he looks.
Kodak is just keeping it real 🤣🤣
The Lady of Rage not being considered one of the best from the 90's is CRIMINAL!!!
Ahaha definitely
Most west coast female emcees get overlooked. Look at Yo-Yo
"I ROCK ROUGH AND STUFF, WIT MY AFROPUFFS!!"
I didn't hear anything from her besides her features on The Chronic, but from the little i heard she's super super dope
@@giovannivieira5830 check her albums out, so dope.
Great report 👍🏽
Yooo my dawg, speaking on the real issues that nobody else wanna bring up. I see you, pimp, good on you.
Let's keep it real whenever a label is promoted a female Rapper What's their main appeal !?!
Need a sec ok times up its there looks there body an sexualize everything!
Basically they have the girl sell u a sexual illusion of a fantasy that u will never experience with that person
Look at sings like wap, and megan songs
For the most part that's true but there are exceptions like Queen Latifah.
@@rishitiwari9163 But Wap wasn’t even that bad of a song, it was a fun song. But female rappers don’t get respect unless they rap like Young MA or Simz.
No Limit didn't do that with Mia X
Lol @ that last part. You think you'll ever get a chance with these women when you listen to their music 😂? They aren't trying to appeal to men 😂, more to women in the current (xxx) liberating culture.
Love this video you touched on very good points
I never understood why men get so damned vindictive when a female rapper becomes successful. Talent is talent. Also, using sex appeal to measure the worth of someone's art or their intelligence is factually wrong. I was just watching an LL video a few days ago, saw a Plies video, a Nelly video, a 50 video, and they are all bare-chested with freshly applied baby oil to their skin. That is no different than a woman who bares her skin, yet women get chastised for it. It's ridiculous, and hypocrisy of the highest level.
Well no, it is different. Men and women aren't the same, especially when it comes to sex. The equivalent of women baring their skin, for a man is to spend resources on a woman, since men objectify women's beauty and women objectify men's wealth.
The dangers of early and high sexual activity is way higher for women and a lot of the most popular songs endorse it as well. It's pretty damaging socially. I wouldn't want my daughter to start acting and talking like them.
@@minimunk7 The only difference is people actually respect them and don't think they're stupid just because they're attractive
😂 men and women are not at all the same
@@tegy140 wait, might have misread it. Do you mean the difference is in that male gets respect either way while women gain less because they're attractive?
@@minimunk7 I mean yeah look at all of those attractive men they are all pretty respected in the industry but if a female runs around shirtless showing off how attractive they are oh she's just dumb and she only got in here because she's attractive but just because you got something because people know that you're attractive does not mean that you're stupid or that you're not talented.
And is a female that wears a whole bunch of different styles I know for a fact that if I'm dressed in one that is more feminine and more showy versus if I'm dressed either Gothic or tomboy it's a different level of respect
People want guys like Kodak free 🤦🏽
I know! That makes me sick! People bitching about an outfit but not some dude that was literally charged with SA!
Rapsody is one of the best MC’s alive!
Facts & I hate how she don't get the recognition that she should
I like no name she's just a little to preachy
@@mani6142 noname underrated AF!!! No skips!
@@mani6142 A little? Try A LOT
by far, and she can go bar for bar with the male rappers too
Thank u for your videos
Another issue I wished you'd spoke on is the colorist, there are so many dark skin female rappers who aren't getting their big break all because they dark skinned
I know it's just a thumbnail, but I think it's odd to have Cardi B in the front and Nicki in the back corner🤷🏿
The level of disrespect
"You b*tches my sons, go sit on the potty." -Nicki Minaj
Not that deep
Yo I was about to say the same lmao
It literally isn't that serious. Y'all weird AF smh
The sad truth is that people only care about female rapper because of how they look it has nothing to do with their talent 😭😭😭😭
If that was true then they wouldn’t be selling as many records as they do. If it was about looks, then that’s what instagram is for.
I see your point but mia x was serious on the mic. Very lyrical
It wasn't always like that.....I don't know what happened but within the last five years MOST of these rap ladies are carbon copies of themselves....20 years ago we had more variety
Not to their female fans and gay male fans which is most likely their target audience. You guys think women are to appeal to men 😂 hilarious.
Most of them aren't talented enough to be successful without selling sex. Most of the girls in the thumbnail couldn't keep up with Rah digga, Mia X, Eve, Remy Ma, Queen Latifah or Lauren Hill lyrically. So they adopt stripper personas to compensate
When Charlamagne is chastising you for being a creep with women...you really need to evaluate your life choices.
Thank you for this 💕🙏
Its way harder to actually mean something with your lyrics without bein called corny or being completely over looked, than talkin bout sex and gettin horny dudes to fall in line. I dont have a problem with the latter, but it just feels like female artists (or the ones on top) are actively trying to discredit and ruin the image of this new movement of female rappers by not releasing anything of substance and fore thought and focusing on sexualizing themselves more and more, then complaining how they dont get credit and "are just doing what guys have been doin for years".
Yeah bro, that's why nobody takes these female rappers seriously like the song WAP is the best example of where female rap is right now lol 🤣
check out latto then, shes recently tried to step into a more creative view
They could release a few things of substance...but once you get signed...you gotta do and push the type of music they want you to push unfortunately. Its no secret bruh...open ya eyes. We see how a lot of these women rappers were and what they were talking about before they got signed...and you see most of their stuff and their whole image is over-sexualized.
Same as the men rappers gotta push this gangsta shit on the youth. But nobody asks Why though. 🤔
@@cntrivergel1992 like imagine if drake dropped a song called "my big black D", and all he talks about is banging women in ridiculous detail on necessary detail. He would right fully be called a horny dumbass. but WAP is somehow "female empowerment". I think female rappers need better role models
@@jayc5756 They should sign better deal or own their masters then.
*Honestly I think it’s right for all female rappers to get their shine equally. Of course everybody knows that hip-hop has always been a competitive genre in music but it’s always been a lot harder for females to get the respect in hip-hop more than men.*
Some of them good voices they can sing 💯
hip hop revolves around drugs/crime/bitches. that lifestyle. most hip hop artist don’t respect females and some are real pimps and not just studio gangsters. how are females suppose to make it in a industry/genre that already looks at them as objects
@Asmodeus Guy doja cat isn't trash
Yo mycah j we never got that vlad video
It only deserves equal shine if their work and talent is equally as good and creative as their male counterparts, which for most female rapper right now it’s not
This channel and comedy hype are my favorite channels u should interview a panel after these type of videos and speak on the subject
Man these videos are so important.
forget "female rappers" 💀the Best female ARTIST to me are ; Lauryn, Nicki, Mary J, Aaliyah, Monica, Britney, Avril, Beyoncè & Rihanna. You know... the female artist with source in their music
We on rap now buddy
@@DizoDixon female rappers are cheesy besides Nicki, Foxy & Kim
@@DizoDixon lol. He must've got done hitting the pipe with Hunter Biden when made that comment.
@@flysocietyotm Nicki garbage too......
@@flysocietyotm If you not talking Gangsta Boo or La Chat you should not be speaking at all
That’s why i Love Lauryn & Missy. Bcs they‘re the Definition of „ i don’t need show my body to get more attention & still can be successful“. I Love Nicki & Kim But they‘re the biggest reason why female rap is more about body selling & new female rappers coming in the Game with their fake bodies. And most of them sound wack asf.
I agree. And it is weird that all of the women in the thumbnail look similar with similar looks and similar vibe (stripper vibe)
...thank you. Lauryn and Missy are prime examples to disprove this what I hear about ''hard for female emcees''......it's hard for EVERYONE to get on in hip hop. Hip hop is probably the most finicky genre when it comes to the audience and business aspects of it. Missy and Lauryn succeeded the same reason their male counterparts did........fuckin undeniable talent and drive.
It’s not just with rap. Tina turner had to do the same thing back in the day. Not everyone has angelic vocals and lyricism or beat making skills like missy and lauryn. The issue is that it takes legendary talent to not show your body in the industry and survive, while men can (but not always) have mediocre looks and subpar talent . That’s why it’s called a double standard
@@chipskylarkvevo7944 ...you think these female MC's mentioned are top tier lyrically? I'd argue most are not outside of Nicki and a couple others.....I mean how much skill can you show when most of your subject matter is about fuckin?
Salt and pepa cool to
2:40 thamks for including this part of XXL interview. Cardi makes an excellent point
As a recording artist, singer-songwriter and “female rapper” (which I don’t typically like to categorize myself because of the stereotypes) who is currently working on perfecting my craft I genuinely appreciate this video for the discussion it promotes and for inspiring me creatively.
Sadly u might end up going through this too. But I hope u don’t. Keep you’re head up and keep making dope shit. Fuck the dudes who only want a pretty face/body. Music is gonna speak for itself💯
If you rap and you a female you a female rapper. Just like a man who is a rapper is a male rapper
Shits traumatizing.. it made me question if I wanted to keep going still looking for the answer 😕
Good luck out there Yazameen.
Icon, I hope you make it big because you’re gonna become an Icon!
I just praise how hip hop in the 90s that people and labels allowed for there to be a diversity of female rappers. There was Salt n Pepa, Queen Latifah, Kim, Left Eye, Missy, Foxy, Lauryn, Eve etc etc. Now there just one look and sound for a female artist. Its over saturated and boring. If you’re not a Dollar Store Lil Kim you’re not gonna be mainstream, period. I think thats what the real problem is.
gmab Kim is a dollar store lol kim
Don't forget Mc Lyte & Da brat
"Exoticals" are labeled as black female rappers and get to the top of the pop charts while still being called queens of rap🤔 (I'm just calling it like I see it and I have a mixed race kid. ) Let's address it🥲
hey there's Little Simz
@@ladycheyne5607I agree all mainstream female rappers are light skin
To Kodak: Yak you cant do that
To Ross: AHAHAAAAAAAAAA
Nice one bro
Sadly, this true for EVERYONE in the entertainment industry (including men).
I STRUGGLED for close to 2 decades in the industry once I became an adolescent. This is when the demands for sex in exchange for stardom started and was heavy. Didn't matter if the tasks were big or small...as a teen, a vocal coach I was sent to would say "ok,...for the next step, I'll do this but you have to give me a kiss 1st." That led up to "now on the lips...". I ended the session at that point (never was boy crazy so getting anything out of me just wasn't happening). I had men ready to sign me saying "you gotta give me some 1st." I tried working with women but they showed signs of jealousy and/or less passion. I decided to manage my career on my own accumulating a lot of debt and sadly couldn't afford top studio budgets so my material was often loss by engineers that didn't have the best equipment. Its been a rough journey...I believe bc I haven't laid down on the casting couch. I am confident I will eventually run into a professional that sees me as an artist.
I recently stopped recording music specifically bc of this issue. I was working with a guy in London who was really trying to change me and how I wanted to do my music and at the same time like trying to get with me it was weird and he hated black women after I saw some hateful post from him on black women I straight called it quits. This next situation was a rough one bc this involved ppl I cared about and thought of as close to me. I was going out with a guy and me and his friend was a producer. They’ve been recording music for sometime and I always wanted to be my own producer so I don’t have to run into problems like I dealt with and bc I like to experiment without someone calling my music and lyrics corny. We spent so much time together that I was comfortable enough to record with his friend by myself. That was mistake one, as he kinda like pressured me into drinking saying that it’ll calm my nerves bc I was super nervous to sing in front of someone since I haven’t done so in over ten years. He kept pouring shots and bc I’m like ok he’s looking out for me and I do need to loosen up I kept taking them. The session is over and he suggest we work on it and also chill and watch anime( I’m an anime head so I was like coo) next thing ik im being touched on and asked if I can have my 🐈 yk.. I was so like in shock the first thing I said bc my drunk self was drunk was like I love the guy I’m with and he proceededs to like try and convince me with telling me all kinds of f boy shit.. the meaning of my rant is it’s not even higher ups. Any dude who think he has any type of clout and type of power think it’s enough to try and manipulate a girl whose looking for a way in.. instead we get sexualized gaslit with saying it wasn’t even like that when it was and just wrote off and not giving an opportunity just bc we don’t want to give it up.. idk if I’ll go back to singing but if I do it’s gonna bc I’m in control and not bc I need someone to get me into a studio.. I can do it myself.. sorry for the long comment this topic is very important to me.. bc I really want to record and make music and sing..
I agree 100% this topic is VERY important to discuss. I’m sorry you went through that & hope you know that if you feel in your heart you were sent to this earth to make music know this WE NEED YOU & YOUR VOICE & YOUR PERSPECTIVE. Whereever you are I am sending you love, light and support! Keep your head up! Also feel free to message me if ever I am in the same boat I want to learn how to produce my own music 🧡
@@yazameenmusic I am a very emotional person so seeing your message man my heart is warm❤️❤️ thank you fr, bc I’m still like dealing with a lot with a lot lmao if that makes sense. I’m still like struggling w/ it bc the guy I was seeing victim blamed and I’m just like bruh 😭 lol yo I got so much to say in my music and it’s hard but I still try and get up and do covers and try and write lyrics for when I do start producing officially. And, yes love I am very open to getting your information and working together bc I have so much I wanna plan but it’s just me and I want a team of ppl with me bc with that it helps me get out of my depression mode seeing a team of ppl whose ready to like do some magic! All my producing equipment is in storage( lol I got so many stories) but yes let’s stay in contact 💜🥺
Sorry that happened to you.
Thank you for actually reporting the issue instead of dogging on female rappers like everyone does
It was way more easier when Nicki was by herself in the industry and everybody wanted her these new rappers today won’t survive after 5 years because they won’t switch it up these girls lack versatility and even if some are versatile they not getting the recognition they deserve because the industry wanna push club twerking music
Thank you for making this video. There’s so much more to the story. Women in the industry are seen as sex workers to the businessmen, & that’d not what they’ve signed up for. They just wanna make music. Look up Ashanti’s story, so sad. Everyone was clawing at Aaliyah not just R Kelly (JayZ, Timbaland…)
where can i get the ashanti's story
Female Rappers should be treated with the same respect and decency as male rappers...in a perfect world. Till then I hope all dem perverts get outted og
Y’all put cardi b on the front??? Wtf lmao
Gotta be New Yorkers runnin this page lmao
EXACTLY
Ngl, after watching that really good The Game video, I was scared to open this one, bc its thumbnail & title make it look like it'll be about "the problem? they're selling sex" (many quality video essayists are sadly exhibiting such attitudes). But I'm glad I did. This was really informative and on point, all the best to you creatively. That Kodak quote is so cringe lol
Salute to the OGs like Queen Latifah, Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, etc. They made their presences felt and didn’t really sabotage their images into something sexual or anything malicious. Now it’s all the same sex sex rap and just pure explicitness. Gotta remember your physical image can depict who you are man or woman
If men were subjected to the same standards as women as far as looks....
They are tho just look at the vast majority of famous celebrities. Ugly people have no place in Hollywood, this ain’t the 90s no more.
this guy thinks the standards for looks in men isnt as harsh as for women
Male are shamed for their looks too
So what you saying
@@waternotwater5562 If anything its worse because men can't wear makeup.
What
i love female rappers with true bars and content, i would love to work with a female lyricist without trying to f**k🤨
2 words Lauren Hill 🔥🔥🔥 it's if called self love and confidence
Nicki should be in the middle on the thumbnail. Not making it a big deal out of it, but Nicki is the standard, and she has risen the bar for mainstream rap 💋🦄. She can rap without oversexulizing herself, and can out rap a lot of her male peers.
thought the same immediately
You're doing exactly what he criticized
💯 💯 💯
I thought the exact same thing how can she not be in the middle?!
That’s bullshit🤣
The truth is that if a woman doesn't have sex appeal in some degree or another, they won't get the shine that they otherwise rightfully deserve. Outliers to this are Lauryn Hill and Missy Elliot, as their talent was so great that it outshined whatever sex appeal they needed to have in order to shine, but rappers like Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Nicki Minaj, Cardio B, and any of the new age female rappers have to show some cleavage or be thick to appeal to the mainstream.
Y’all never mention Tierra Whack when it comes to these categories smh
Right?!
It's so refreshing to see a male hiphop head speak up about the struggles women in hiphop face.
Women get Infinite idustry Push
Women rapping isn't important.
The disrespect putting nicki all in the back is criminal
dont care
yb better
How ? It’s not like it matters
A really strange thing I often see is that female rappers shouldn't promote "sexuality or looks" or they say that a woman isn't judged on those things or effected yet if you listen to someone like Kodak and I'm sure plenty of other rappers they literally are basing a massive career move on exactly those things and holding a massive feature hostage for these girls yet they will give a terrible rapper a feature that is a man for the smallest of things and not only that but the guys that are massive except for a select few literally talk about sex, money, drugs and opps. There is a different standard for women in hip hop for sure.
Nicki really is a top rapper in general not just female rap
Old nicki when she was with Gucci was, not this new nicki with Wayne shit isn’t it
It's true. Classic Nikki untouched
i am not a hater of Nicki's, but I have to give the top spot to Missy Elliot.
@Miles Prower most of what she did was rap
@Miles Prower if the majority of what you do is rap then you’re a rapper it doesn’t matter how good you are at it
So on brand to have keeps as a sponsor for this video
This was so good.
Nicki is the only female rapper to give most of the great male rappers a good run for their money 😂 no cap. QUEEN!🙌
Uhmm lauryn hill though? Can't leave her out .
@@lydob2471 of course Lauryn is a goddess. But I'm talking current great male rappers, current hip hop.
Sa-Roc > Nicki
She shined on a track with Black Thought, that's tough
Disagree…… kim outshined all male rappers on her features and they are the crème da le crème….. ( Biggie, Jayz, DMX, The Lox, Mobb Deep, TooShort, Snoop, etc) …
@@rosierose4022 not true
I think the big point here is that female artists are looked at as a separate category when talking about rap. It’s like when a kid in school says “you’re pretty *add compliment here* for a girl.” That is always the leading point to crown a queen of rap and it’s like the moment you aren’t the clear favorite artist, you are “washed”. It’s not even like females fall off, it’s more that they are pointed in the direction of another female and they go berserk
I've been into hip hop since the early 80s! Beat street was my introduction to the culture I love. I'm from Birmingham UK and we now have a healthy sceene of our own . Mc light, sha rock, Lisa Lisa, Roxanne shante, the real Roxanne, salt and pepper. Queen latifa and the lady of rage all pioneers of the game all very different in style n delivery and subject matter they rap about .IMO the female mc's of that era wasnt over sexualized but sex sells . Unfortunately nowa days looks seem more important than ability and CONTENT. Peace from Birmingham UK. Gud video.
90s and early 2000s music videos use to have other celebs and other artists either put on the song track and/or just grooving and chilling in the back dancing with other people.
I rarely see it these days (2022). Partly, now, with covert-19, green screen movie magic, and beef more-so stirred up by social media.
Most of them were not really that talented. But they were marketable. They signed deals that made them rich and label owners were compensated for making these mediocre women stars.
So what’s the excuse for the less than mediocre men that we see on our tvs. If this is them as stars I don’t even wanna know what they were before they signed a record deal 🤢
Female rappers focus more on anything "butt" the craft of hip hop, that's why most of them don't really get respect, shout outs to Nicki, Snow the Product, Lauryn Hill, Armani Ceasar, this girls are true lyricist that respect hip hop and still maintain their fair share of feminitity in music, not like cardi b who yeah, does mainstream pop rap music but everything is made for her while her only work is only to be a performer
doja tryna claim she smart while she got a fuckin mask on for a skype call 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😭😭💯💯
Lmfao
At least they are up front about it. There are multiple doors in life, you get to choose which ones you walk through. It helps when there are signs on the doors.
Nicki Minaj is a true icon. I have nothing but respect for her.
And got knocked up by a rapist she fell in love
The fact you didn’t put Nicki Minaj in the middle is truly disgusting.
It ain't that deep.
The disrespect lmao
Displeased
Gangsta Boo!
The fact that nicki wasn’t in the middle just ruined my whole week 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. The disrespect is real
Tot I was the only one
@@Iamnotyourregularside lol we here with you 😂
Ya'll never heard of Sa-Roc? One of the illest rappers to ever touch the mic🔥. She's like the femaleversionof Kendrick Lamar...but she's underground.
RhymeSayers 🤜
Check out YAUNTA dope!!🔥
So good amazing dope mcs. Her lyrics be crazy. Oh wow. Feature Che Noir moment in sun Ep last year. Be nuts with lyrics
Missy Elliot in my opinion is the Best Female MC of all time!!. She could rap, sing, dance, write, produce!!! That woman could literally do it all!! If talent was a person it would be Missy!!!!
My fave was always Mia X
Mia is also my favorite and imo Better rapper. But Missy is definitely the better mc. Either way they're both great and under appreciated.
Give a bar from missy
I'm an artist by hobby, and even I have my stories. Like I'm a nobody and still get this treatment, that's how standard it is.
I'm 46 and my waves still spinning. And I have youtube red to avoid the commercials.🤨
I haven't came this early since forever
Yeah it’s a tough one here. There’s a lot of women who can rap and rap WELL. But that stuff definitely doesn’t get pushed to the forefront. Honestly it doesn’t for the men either. The ones in the current era who are “backpack” rappers had to find a blend for it to hit the mainstream (Cole, Kendrick etc). A lot of the stuff that is popular now is all very materialistic and sexual which makes it even harder for the female rappers who want respect. Because if they’re not rapping about sex or anything related, how can they make it?
Its hard to want to “own your sexuality”because everything that serves the male gaze has been rebranded as “empowering". It’s like, yeah own that shit but that’s going to continue the trend of men sexualizing women and it’s a continuous loop. There’s a lot of female MCs who are great now but if you ask the average person who they are, they wouldn’t be able to tell you. It seems to me the only way out of this would be to slow down on the sexualization of everything and rap about something else 🤷🏻♂️
This shit made my skin crawl, props to these ladies for putting up with that bull
Nice video
Despite being seen as empowering for some reason, all these female rappers who only talk about what they look like only self objectify, not showing their talent or thoughts on anything. Someone like Simz and Jean grae are far better for women in my opinion
Right they wanna mix sexual liberation and feminism and that shit don't mix. Period
Then support them? Men love this rhetoric but don’t actually ever do anything about it and only bring them up to put down this newer style of rapping. It’s also quite demeaning to say that these women are not showing their talents or thoughts just because it’s music you don’t personally enjoy? Interrogate why you think like that.
@@VENIKA Exactly!! People like Kodak, Gunna, Future etc. can get away with making the bare minimum and get a fraction of the flack female rappers get! I am not a fan of Saweetee or Cardi, but they get a lot of shit for the doing the same thing the male mainstream has been doing!
@@VENIKA As a Londoner Simz is one of my favourite rappers around so I do support more lyrical female rappers. And it's not that I just don't like their music, but talking about sex and their body can only be done so many times and in so many flows etc for it to be interesting for very long. I'd rather hear someone talk about their life story or the world or something that the average person would want to or should hear
@@VENIKA how can you defend this, when you have little girls out here really trying to emulate these rappers. Like explain that. Shit seems inspiring and uplifting to you, but what is it teaching young girls 🤔
Yes! Let's give these Queens their flowers!!!❤
Kodak is disgusting. The whole attitude in the genre towards women is so so disgusting. Let's celebrate respecting people AS individuals, regardless of gender.
Kodak is about as disgusting as he looks!
People are shocked by this? First off, the music business is disgusting in general. That said rap needs to evolve as a culture and it's failing to do so. I understand the black experience is more difficult than anyone else in America in many circumstances, but how long are we gonna do the I'll unalive you, bitches aint shit, look and my mansions and chains garbage? Until dumbasses stop eating it up! That's when. The consumer is at fault here as well tbh.
Not just that since the start of movies and female singers its been like oh you want a record deal or you want to be in this movie then sleep with me
I noticed CTG laughed when Ross spoke about it.. But tried 2 change his tune when Kodak was talking crazy the same way