Great review. I happen to do quality control at ikea. I haven't had the chance to get my hands on one of these yet but you've already given me a good impression of what a customer can experience and where we can improve. Looking forward to the full review. 👌🏽
Sick review, thank you for the upload mate !! I got the somfy blinds in a rush cause really wanted smart blinds but they don’t have the WiFi function unless you spend £250 on another bit of kit which is twice the price of the blinds so no point really. When I can find these in stock will grab them !! Thank you again for the review
Completely agree with everything said here. I had the exact same experience with the added bonus I am still not able to get Alexa working with the Ikea hub. I was equally confused about how to set the blind stop limit and ran into issues when pairing. It took me 2 hours to get everything working correctly. Now they are up however they do look great. Only other thing - I can;t believe there is no option in the app to have them open/close based on sunset/sunrise in your defined locality. Crazy.
The under cabinet lights, power supplies, remote and gateway have the same issues. And worse, every time they update the firmwares, it breaks Alexa integration and you have to re add everything quite often.
I’ve looked into this. I actually love the grey fabric. I wish IKEA would come up with more different size blinds. I know they’re not in customization, their stuff are off the shelf but there’s a brand that you can get off the shelf and they will cut with precision with their in store machine.
Sean thank you I am not familiar with that site. Must not be US based. They seem to have some odd and wild products on there, lol. I found and bought the blinds I needed, cut/customized at the store. Not exactly like the ikea brand, but it does the trick. Thank you.
Nice video! It’s so exciting to see these blinds finally coming to market. I can’t wait for HomeKit support too. It will also be great to hear your extended thoughts in a future video.
Thanks, I just fitted these blinds. I agree the instructions were terrible. They came with 9 booklets, each with just a few lines of English and many other languages. Just a simple few pages of pictures would have been more simple. They were pretty easy to fit and i've never fit blinds before. Although I should have left more then the 16 cm between the edge of the blind and the attachment as that meant they aren't perfectly in the middle of the window and I can't be bothered to drill more holes right now. The paperwork and description of the product online both didn't mention I needed to buy a £25 gateway. I feel quite let down by that, since it should be clear. I just assumed it was the name of the free app to download. Thanks to your video I can at least go to sleep knowing it is impossible to set the blinds to open and shut each day automatically with the equipment I have.
maybe than should buy a replacement batterie if loading with batterie inside is not possible dont understand why they did not place the usb charger on the other side and leave a little hole for the cable it would be perfect to have a exchangable batterie plus loading opportunity
Ikea say 3-4 months. I have had them just over one and half months. At least one up and down per day, but the first month extensive use and not charged them yet
Hi, can you please provide your professional opinion on whether I should install two side-by-side equal width blinds, or one blind for a 82-inch wide kitchen window ? Thanks!
Great video. Looking forward to the added HomeKit support for these. And hopefully they will improve the setup user experience. Any idea how long the battery is supposed to last on these after a full charge?
thank you for your video, can you tell me if I could put a decorative panel in front ot the silver hardware bracket would i still be able to use the wireless features
What are the "required dimensions" for the case with drum when the blinds are up (distance from ceiling to the bottom of the rolled up cloth + depth of the case) I need to figure out, if I have enough room above the window, so it can still be opened. Thank you :)
Sounds like a typical Tradfri setup experience. I do think IKE will work out the kinks in the coming weeks and months... hopefully by the time we get HomeKit support
Pairing remotes have always been a problem with TRÅDFRI. It takes many tries, and if 1 remote needs updating, you should stop pairing more remotes before it is finished (or everything will halt). Which you will get no status on how long the update takes. The joke is that if you use any other gateway like Hue, deCONZ or Smartthings, pairing works fine. TouchLink works fine without a gateway, but IKEA really needs to stop using TouchLink with their gateway, and switch to QR-codes for pairing. Which is part of the ZigBee standard: zigbee.org/download/zigbee-alliance-qr-code-requirements/ I bought one of the blinds and intended to make a video of the install process. But it ended up just being me complaining about the pairing process. th-cam.com/video/bq8GYVZPJtk/w-d-xo.html Because I used the big remote in a project, I have paired more that 100 remotes, and for me it still take many ties. Link to project (in Danish): www.thingiverse.com/thing:3655354
I bought & tried just the blackout blinds. The header is wider than the shade so I had light leakage. I returned them. They also are not as long as they should be for American windows. 2 more inches and they would be perfect
If you watched the video I said I long Ikea day they would last. But as I have only had them a week, I could not tell. The price, well it differs per country.
I charged the battery once and it's still working after 5 months (up/down once a day, so at least 298 full rolls :-) = not bad ) The price is 129-169 Eur in DE.
Brill review thank you. Sorry if this question has been asked. Using your blinds let's say twice daily. How long does the battery last before need charging. And finally does it have a timer built in on the app and tell it what time you want to open and close thanks
I'm surprised IKEA didn't do a better job with light leakage around the edges. I rely on blackout shades for my schedule and every bit counts (light masks are a PITA).
Thanks for the video review, you convinced me to get a pair for my windows. I would like to install them the same way you did, fix them to the head of the frame. I have similar window frames, could you tell me which screws did you use? Thanks!
I like devices like this but as we all know it is not if but when the motor and gears will fail on these blinds. Add all the other things like charging the batteries and replacing them and you have something that does not make your life "smart". My parents had motorized blinds 25 years ago and they were hard wired and they lasted about 5 years till they broke. I will look for blackout blinds with cords, thank you for this review.
are you able to control multiple smart blinds at the same time with 1 remote? We have a bay window, so we're looking to purchase 5 in total of these smart blinds. Can 1 remote work on all 5 at the same time or do we need to purchase the smart gateway?
Looks pretty cool, probably would hold off until they fix the bugs though. Also, it looks like they only have two sizes on their website, and can't be ordered online. What's up with that?
@@martincerveny2284 Maybe, but i have enough stuff with batteries i need to watch already (like smoke detectors etc). The Idea behind smart home appliances is for me to have the least trouble possible. And what if you have a high window? Then two times a year or more, you need to get a ladder to climb up, recharge the thing, climb up again. Certainly doable, but in my opionion too much of a hassle.
Battery life is a question. How long a single charge can operate in an everyday use. And how fast the self discharge happen when in iddle, not in use for weeks?
Is there any information available regarding whether the signal repeater could be plugged in in an adjacent room, if within the required 10 metres? I’m thinking for situations where the blind would be placed in a bathroom where power options are limited (in most UK size bathrooms).
I thought about this. For instance if you have 7 of these are independently controlled then it could become a problem. I tested them out by plugging it into a socked in the utility room (9 meters away through 2 walls) seemed to work ok
Active JR ah that’s good to know. Do you know whether Ikea provide any guidance as to whether these blinds are even suitable for bathroom use. In my case they wouldn’t be anywhere near shower etc, but it’s more the moisture aspects etc
I would like to use them but they are to short (195cm) and not wide enough. I need at least 250cm width for my Window and at least 200cm length for my door....Thats realy sad ;( And they are always sold out at my 2 stores here in munich xD
Same problem here... I was looking forward to trying them out when I moved in to my new place, but my windows are the same length as yours (but about 100cm narrower). Back to the drawing board!
These have the same problem that every single blinds from ikea have. The way you have to install them, they are too far from the windows and light is coming from the sides ... which makes them unsuitable for a bedroom in my opinion. I would love a system with rails on the sides so it covers the whole window and doesn't let light enter the room.
Can you switch the roller around so that the back becomes the front (and vice versa)? I'd like to paint one side silver, and the other side black, and have them one way in the summer and the other way in the winter...
Ikea is not the only one with "smart" shades. These shades are very cheap looking and have no option for a top treatment (cassette or valance)..they will let a tone of light into the room. There are sooo many other choices out there. Try to find a local window cover store and play with some. Budget blinds has a number of local "show rooms" around the country.
All these software and setup issues is probably why they postponed the release 6 months to begin with, and still my 2 local Ikea's are still struggling to keep them in stock so I have not been able to pick mine up yet.
@@JRsReviews here, in Stockholm, Sweden, they've only received a smell number each delivery, which seems to be once a month so far, I want the 140cm and Sweden only gets the dark one as of yet, but that is the one I want.
What happens if a houseguest or housekeeper does not recognize the blind is motorized and has a motor/remote then they pull on the blind to open or close?
You get the mains powered ZigBee Repeater with the blind so no additional purchase needed. It is necessary since the battery powered blind and wireless switch cannot be repeaters and for whole home coverage with multiple blinds an always on mesh network is needed.
I have a Bedroom with one blind and no need for Automation or integration. So i find its dumb to have a hand remote that anyway sends its signal and a repeater that consumes power 24/7
@@rsmaster5637 the ZigBee repeater is very low power, probably not much different from a Tradfri smartbulb when unlit. However as you don't have a need for automation, integration or multiple windows throughout your home to operate from a single remote, the Tradfri ZigBee architecture is probably not for you.
Shure its for me . Its a good Value for a Battery Powered Blind . I just dont see the point for the need of a Repeater if your switch is 4 Meters Away from the Blinds . But thats how they made it so it is like it is
No one has tried theese with other zigbee hubs yet e.g Smartthings? I don`t really understand what the signal repeater is for, if the hub isnt far away.
I think it’s needed because the remote and blinds are battery operated and goto sleep when not in use. The repeater is the perm connection and I think the range of the blind is limited meaning depending on the location it may not reach the hub
I have paired the blind with a ST hub directly. By setting the DH to be ZigBee Window Shade some control is possible. The ST Classic App slider does control position but it seems reversed from what I expected. The Open/Close buttons do not work correctly but the Pause button does work.
Totally pointless size limitations means blackout blinds placed side by side for bigger windows means they have huge gaps and won’t stop any light coming in. There’s got to be a better solution for getting custom sizes for those of us with wide windows or to pair these units in a line.
can you use one single repeater for more than one blind? i know you can use one remote for 4 blind but how does it work if you only use 1 single repeater in the room?
Yes, I think the limit is 10 now. But you have a repeater for each blinds you buy, so I have 5 blind and 5 repeaters - that's enough to make nice ZB network for everything including Ikea bulbs, etc.
Build quality looks decent but the fact you need to use the repeater and that I can't use it with offline software is a big no. Why do people think smart is hooking something to the Internet? I'd love to see how "smart" your houses are with no Internet connection... My house control is offline for a reason
Smart is not about being connected to the internet. Most of my house is smart, with 95% available offline if the internet or WiFi is down. But specific to these blinds, you can control them with controls direct on the unit
I should clarify my smart comment. Things are touted as smart when you can control them with an app. Like voice control that's not smart just another form of control, like using the buttons on the device. As for these blinds I might buy a set becuase of ikeas build quality vs price but they'll likely be ripped apart and modified. The repeater and using their app are the big no points for me. Automating things shouldn't need a hundred boxes littered around my house
Active JR I have two of these FYRTUR blinds and despite what the instructions or app may tell to you don’t have to use the repeater once paired. If the gateway is within range the repeater is not needed at all. If you want to dig deep into this technology all the IKEA smart stuff are just ZigBee devices, you could just have the blind and a ZigBee dongle and make them work in any way you want, there is plenty of 3rd party software out there.
Good first impressions video. Been waiting for these for some time to help with security. Clearly not quite the ideal solution at the moment but maybe this will come with refinement and continuous improvement over time. Thanks for sharing. 👍
When the first smart stuff from Ikea arrived. It was buggy. I am a big fan of the smart plug for the price. But Ikea need to quickly sort the issues out as customers have been waiting and want them. This is evident by the huge amount of traffic I get to any post or video. But these issues could kill the product
Is there an option to set an open or close by time ie. Open blinds at 7am or open blinds by 10% at 7am, Help you wake up.? That's the main use for a smart blind in my opinion.
Might pick these up once the HomeKit support is live so I could immediately ditch using IKEA’s app. It’s a shame there isn’t a port on the shades to wire them in to a little solar panel in the window to top up the charge.
Absolute nightmare to set it up. Took half a day to set up 2 blinds, still couldn't make work completely. The 2nd blind would not configure to the maximum drop length I wanted. Would you happen to know why? I am doing exactly what I did for the 1st blind which works fine. Also 2nd blind do not work on the phone. When I try to control from the phone nothing happens to the blind.
@@JRsReviews I've had the same problem. Remote works both blinds no problem both before and after bringing the gateway on board but the app only connects with one of the blinds. I note that you had to reset from scratch but that you also mention adding another set of blinds eventually. Did you do so? Did you have to reset from scratch once again?
I just set up one blind and had the same software problems as yourself. Additionally I have not been able to get them to appear as a device in Alexa as yet. Is there any trick to getting Alexa to work?
No errors. The Ikea hub is added ok but the blinds are just not appearing as a device when detecting devices. I suspect that Alexa support for the blinds is just not there yet.
Yes - that is what I also found. Appears that it may only work with Google home which I do not have. A bit of a pain - hopefully they will add Alexa and/or HomeKit in the future.
I like the review on this blind and I think it would work well in my kitchen but it's the technology of the thing it's either this or the old pull and push type.
Thanks for your video, it helped me immensely. The repeater HAS to be on or the blinds no longer work. Even if you put the switch right on top of the blind. You have to pair the switch to the repeater - and you have to see the switch slow flash twice to confirm. Then repeat the same with the blind, the switch has to slow flash twice AND the blind do the same, plus twitch the roller. If that doesn't happen, it won't have paired. Waking the blind by pressing both buttons once basically breaks everything - the switch no longer controls the blind. I'm hoping this will all be fixed if I get a hub so it can update the firmware.
Great video! It's really messing with me that those blinds are not in sync. It really takes away from the 'premium feel' which I feel like these would have if they were always in perfect sync
My biggest worry is what happens when the batteries run out? Is there an EEPROM that saves all the connection data or will you have to re-program them all over again? It seems crazy you cannot continuously charge the batteries up by a super-thin almost transparent ribbon giving a trickle charge via a nearby USB point or a solar feed. How long will a charged battery last in terms of numbers of up or down cycles for example? I bet there isn't even a warning light or sound to remind you to recharge the battery so you don't get the 100% drained effect with the blinds down fully or even half way down. Imagine the hassle of having to reprogram the pesky things every 100 cycles as well as getting out the step ladders to access the battery. I have quite a few wireless devices that have rechargeable batteries inside and almost all of them have a USB port on the device plus a nice long charge up cable you can attach once you know it needs a 'refill' or better still leave it connected permanently.
I have had the batteries out for 2 hours and everything was still in working order. So I assume they have some sort of coin battery to save this data in memory
Long term Ikea Smart blinds review - HomeKit, battery life and performance after 5 months of use th-cam.com/video/79Zt35ySRtA/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the follow-up! Really appreciate You've done this by linking to the full review.
Great review. I happen to do quality control at ikea. I haven't had the chance to get my hands on one of these yet but you've already given me a good impression of what a customer can experience and where we can improve. Looking forward to the full review. 👌🏽
Thanks for watching. Overall the quality is amazing, the software just needs some edges sorting along with the documentation
These need to work with offline software more easily and the repeater is a pain
Do you do it in the UK
No in the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Great someone from IKea is watch these
I find it really disturbing how they aren’t moving at the same rate in most of the scenes lol... OCD issues!
Agree. Almost cracked it using the remote, but the app they are always out of sync
Yes I thought that
Me too
Yes, that one out of sync left blind was bothering me, but does it finally come all the way down? Great and informative video!
Lool you are not alone!
Sick review, thank you for the upload mate !! I got the somfy blinds in a rush cause really wanted smart blinds but they don’t have the WiFi function unless you spend £250 on another bit of kit which is twice the price of the blinds so no point really. When I can find these in stock will grab them !! Thank you again for the review
I am going to check them out next, thanks for watching too!
It’s true Somfy is more expensive, but they are worth it. I’ve been using them for years. Love them.
I love videos that ask right at the start to give a thumbs up. Not if you like it, but if you like to watch it
Thank you
Completely agree with everything said here. I had the exact same experience with the added bonus I am still not able to get Alexa working with the Ikea hub. I was equally confused about how to set the blind stop limit and ran into issues when pairing. It took me 2 hours to get everything working correctly. Now they are up however they do look great. Only other thing - I can;t believe there is no option in the app to have them open/close based on sunset/sunrise in your defined locality. Crazy.
Its a shame about the software, really is
Hopefully if its not already working with IFTTT then someone will get it working soon, then it would be possible to do the dawn/dusk blinds thing.
Chay Hawes hopefully
The under cabinet lights, power supplies, remote and gateway have the same issues. And worse, every time they update the firmwares, it breaks Alexa integration and you have to re add everything quite often.
The promising thing though is that they have made huge improvements over time
And no HomeKit
Coming “soon”
Hello, good review. What is the battery life on a single full charge?
6 months
Certainly nice to see this to help pass the time on a night shift
Glad it helped you Jason! Thanks for watching as always 👍🏻
I’ve looked into this. I actually love the grey fabric. I wish IKEA would come up with more different size blinds. I know they’re not in customization, their stuff are off the shelf but there’s a brand that you can get off the shelf and they will cut with precision with their in store machine.
You should be able to find samething in Aliexpress. Same factory I guess
Sean thank you I am not familiar with that site. Must not be US based. They seem to have some odd and wild products on there, lol. I found and bought the blinds I needed, cut/customized at the store. Not exactly like the ikea brand, but it does the trick. Thank you.
great video. Thanks!
Having two sets butted-up against each other, can you tell me how much of a gap there was between the fabric of the two blinds?
Nice video! It’s so exciting to see these blinds finally coming to market. I can’t wait for HomeKit support too. It will also be great to hear your extended thoughts in a future video.
Thanks for watching. Just seen that you can get HomeKit support via Homebridge
I am waiting for HomeKit support too
I really like IKEA pushing into the smart devices world! Their new smart speakers are awesome!
I have a speaker in for review, not opened it yet.
Speakers are awesome
What’s the price tag!?
Start at 100 GbP
@@JRsReviews Thx
Thanks, I just fitted these blinds. I agree the instructions were terrible. They came with 9 booklets, each with just a few lines of English and many other languages. Just a simple few pages of pictures would have been more simple. They were pretty easy to fit and i've never fit blinds before. Although I should have left more then the 16 cm between the edge of the blind and the attachment as that meant they aren't perfectly in the middle of the window and I can't be bothered to drill more holes right now.
The paperwork and description of the product online both didn't mention I needed to buy a £25 gateway. I feel quite let down by that, since it should be clear. I just assumed it was the name of the free app to download. Thanks to your video I can at least go to sleep knowing it is impossible to set the blinds to open and shut each day automatically with the equipment I have.
Will you be buying the gateway?
maybe than should buy a replacement batterie if loading with batterie inside is not possible dont understand why they did not place the usb charger on the other side and leave a little hole for the cable it would be perfect to have a exchangable batterie plus loading opportunity
How long does the Battery last?
Ikea say 3-4 months. I have had them just over one and half months. At least one up and down per day, but the first month extensive use and not charged them yet
After 5 month up/down once a day, it's still working. But I still plan to buy spare battery and keep it charged...
Hi, can you please provide your professional opinion on whether I should install two side-by-side equal width blinds, or one blind for a 82-inch wide kitchen window ?
Thanks!
Great video. Looking forward to the added HomeKit support for these. And hopefully they will improve the setup user experience.
Any idea how long the battery is supposed to last on these after a full charge?
According to IKEA 4 -5 months. But that is according to Ikea
Active JR ok, thanks! I think the ideal use case for smart shades is hard to reach windows so good battery life is important. Thanks for the review!
Keep up the good work mate
Yes would be good to know battery life on normal night and morning use. Looking forward to full review
Caretaker about 2 weeks away
thank you for your video, can you tell me if I could put a decorative panel in front ot the silver hardware bracket would i still be able to use the wireless features
What are the "required dimensions" for the case with drum when the blinds are up (distance from ceiling to the bottom of the rolled up cloth + depth of the case) I need to figure out, if I have enough room above the window, so it can still be opened. Thank you :)
www.reddit.com/r/tradfri/comments/crab43/ikea_fyrtur_smart_blinds_unboxing_and_teardown/ I found it here
These look great. Absolutely nothing like these at this price point.
Sounds like a typical Tradfri setup experience. I do think IKE will work out the kinks in the coming weeks and months... hopefully by the time we get HomeKit support
Yes, very clunky and like you I am sure they will iron it out. Just should have waited to release them
Pairing remotes have always been a problem with TRÅDFRI. It takes many tries, and if 1 remote needs updating, you should stop pairing more remotes before it is finished (or everything will halt). Which you will get no status on how long the update takes. The joke is that if you use any other gateway like Hue, deCONZ or Smartthings, pairing works fine.
TouchLink works fine without a gateway, but IKEA really needs to stop using TouchLink with their gateway, and switch to QR-codes for pairing. Which is part of the ZigBee standard: zigbee.org/download/zigbee-alliance-qr-code-requirements/
I bought one of the blinds and intended to make a video of the install process. But it ended up just being me complaining about the pairing process.
th-cam.com/video/bq8GYVZPJtk/w-d-xo.html
Because I used the big remote in a project, I have paired more that 100 remotes, and for me it still take many ties. Link to project (in Danish): www.thingiverse.com/thing:3655354
They look good. For another budged option I would suggest Dako. They have smart blinds now.
I bought & tried just the blackout blinds. The header is wider than the shade so I had light leakage. I returned them. They also are not as long as they should be for American windows. 2 more inches and they would be perfect
shame they dont offer longer sizes
You neglected to mention the two most important factors, how long does the battery last, and how much do they cost?
If you watched the video I said I long Ikea day they would last. But as I have only had them a week, I could not tell. The price, well it differs per country.
I charged the battery once and it's still working after 5 months (up/down once a day, so at least 298 full rolls :-) = not bad )
The price is 129-169 Eur in DE.
Brill review thank you. Sorry if this question has been asked. Using your blinds let's say twice daily. How long does the battery last before need charging. And finally does it have a timer built in on the app and tell it what time you want to open and close thanks
I'm surprised IKEA didn't do a better job with light leakage around the edges. I rely on blackout shades for my schedule and every bit counts (light masks are a PITA).
Do these work with Google home without the IKEA gateway?
Thanks for the video review, you convinced me to get a pair for my windows. I would like to install them the same way you did, fix them to the head of the frame. I have similar window frames, could you tell me which screws did you use? Thanks!
I like devices like this but as we all know it is not if but when the motor and gears will fail on these blinds. Add all the other things like charging the batteries and replacing them and you have something that does not make your life "smart". My parents had motorized blinds 25 years ago and they were hard wired and they lasted about 5 years till they broke. I will look for blackout blinds with cords, thank you for this review.
If IKEA would utilize thin film solar sell as the outer layer on the blinds it would be even more impressive
It would be expensive
What would the solar cell be connected too?🤣
How long does the charged battery last on average how many time do you need to recharge
do y need 2 repeaters or does it work with one repeater for both blinds? do y know hov many blinds you can drive on one repeater?
are you able to control multiple smart blinds at the same time with 1 remote? We have a bay window, so we're looking to purchase 5 in total of these smart blinds. Can 1 remote work on all 5 at the same time or do we need to purchase the smart gateway?
Looks pretty cool, probably would hold off until they fix the bugs though. Also, it looks like they only have two sizes on their website, and can't be ordered online. What's up with that?
I've seen a few cheaper or similarly priced alternatives on Amazon. One can event be custom ordered to the exact size you need.
So for me, the battery is a big minus. I dont like to charge x batteries every so often. Why no direct wall plug solution?
Not at this time and I can’t see it with Ikea
You can DIY. But "so often" is something like half a year ;-)
@@martincerveny2284 Maybe, but i have enough stuff with batteries i need to watch already (like smoke detectors etc). The Idea behind smart home appliances is for me to have the least trouble possible.
And what if you have a high window? Then two times a year or more, you need to get a ladder to climb up, recharge the thing, climb up again.
Certainly doable, but in my opionion too much of a hassle.
Great video. Very helpful review. Thank you.
Thanks, great review. Is Google Home supported already? When that/Alexa is added will people still need the IKEA bridge to use via Google/Alexa?
donostio1 good home is yes. You will need the bridge for any the Ikea app and smart home platforms
Battery life is a question. How long a single charge can operate in an everyday use. And how fast the self discharge happen when in iddle, not in use for weeks?
I think he mentioned this in other comments, but 3-6 months
Is there any information available regarding whether the signal repeater could be plugged in in an adjacent room, if within the required 10 metres? I’m thinking for situations where the blind would be placed in a bathroom where power options are limited (in most UK size bathrooms).
I thought about this. For instance if you have 7 of these are independently controlled then it could become a problem. I tested them out by plugging it into a socked in the utility room (9 meters away through 2 walls) seemed to work ok
Active JR ah that’s good to know. Do you know whether Ikea provide any guidance as to whether these blinds are even suitable for bathroom use. In my case they wouldn’t be anywhere near shower etc, but it’s more the moisture aspects etc
Can this roller operated manually?
Did I hear that correctly that you can only add up to four blinds? If so, that's disappointing because I was hoping for a whole-home solution.
4 blinds per room / remote
I would like to use them but they are to short (195cm) and not wide enough. I need at least 250cm width for my Window and at least 200cm length for my door....Thats realy sad ;(
And they are always sold out at my 2 stores here in munich xD
drug2 Shame
Same problem here... I was looking forward to trying them out when I moved in to my new place, but my windows are the same length as yours (but about 100cm narrower). Back to the drawing board!
Wonderful! Thank you for sharing this valuable information 👍🥇
Thanks
HomeKit coming soon!! I’m excited. I’m assuming they’ll have a software update to make them work with HomeKit?
Enrique De León it’s coming, just don’t know when
These have the same problem that every single blinds from ikea have. The way you have to install them, they are too far from the windows and light is coming from the sides ... which makes them unsuitable for a bedroom in my opinion. I would love a system with rails on the sides so it covers the whole window and doesn't let light enter the room.
I have done this with my bedroom and built some rails for them
Can you switch the roller around so that the back becomes the front (and vice versa)? I'd like to paint one side silver, and the other side black, and have them one way in the summer and the other way in the winter...
Not really as it will restrict the battery compartment
I rushed to buy one, but lost the clips to fix it on the wall, can I order one in IKEA.??
You could always check with Ikea
I like the way these look.. hopefully they get the set up process straightened out.. I'd like to get them for my house.
Nice looking and I am confident IKea will improve them
Ikea is not the only one with "smart" shades. These shades are very cheap looking and have no option for a top treatment (cassette or valance)..they will let a tone of light into the room. There are sooo many other choices out there. Try to find a local window cover store and play with some. Budget blinds has a number of local "show rooms" around the country.
All these software and setup issues is probably why they postponed the release 6 months to begin with, and still my 2 local Ikea's are still struggling to keep them in stock so I have not been able to pick mine up yet.
They must be selling well for them. I managed to get hold of the shade version last week
@@JRsReviews here, in Stockholm, Sweden, they've only received a smell number each delivery, which seems to be once a month so far, I want the 140cm and Sweden only gets the dark one as of yet, but that is the one I want.
What happens if a houseguest or housekeeper does not recognize the blind is motorized and has a motor/remote then they pull on the blind to open or close?
Can you use a single blind only with the remote or do you need the repeater anyway?
Yes. You need a repeater regardless
You get the mains powered ZigBee Repeater with the blind so no additional purchase needed. It is necessary since the battery powered blind and wireless switch cannot be repeaters and for whole home coverage with multiple blinds an always on mesh network is needed.
I have a Bedroom with one blind and no need for Automation or integration. So i find its dumb to have a hand remote that anyway sends its signal and a repeater that consumes power 24/7
@@rsmaster5637 the ZigBee repeater is very low power, probably not much different from a Tradfri smartbulb when unlit. However as you don't have a need for automation, integration or multiple windows throughout your home to operate from a single remote, the Tradfri ZigBee architecture is probably not for you.
Shure its for me . Its a good Value for a Battery Powered Blind . I just dont see the point for the need of a Repeater if your switch is 4 Meters Away from the Blinds . But thats how they made it so it is like it is
Very informative...do you have a set in India?
Not available in any Ikea on the east coast. Why?
No one has tried theese with other zigbee hubs yet e.g Smartthings?
I don`t really understand what the signal repeater is for, if the hub isnt far away.
I think it’s needed because the remote and blinds are battery operated and goto sleep when not in use. The repeater is the perm connection and I think the range of the blind is limited meaning depending on the location it may not reach the hub
I have paired the blind with a ST hub directly. By setting the DH to be ZigBee Window Shade some control is possible. The ST Classic App slider does control position but it seems reversed from what I expected. The Open/Close buttons do not work correctly but the Pause button does work.
Why would you
David Webster great advice
DH for Smartthings is avaible, just need to get my hands on some of theese to try out.
github.com/a4refillpad/Ikea/blob/master/IKEA-window-blinds
What about the noise? Are they noisy let's say in the morning?
I don’t think so
Great review, thank you. I didn’t even know that Ikea sold there, cheers
Thanks for watching
Great review !
How many blinds can you add to 1 hub and app ?
Thank you
I have 12 at the moment, not sure what the limit is
@@JRsReviews thanks !
Totally pointless size limitations means blackout blinds placed side by side for bigger windows means they have huge gaps and won’t stop any light coming in. There’s got to be a better solution for getting custom sizes for those of us with wide windows or to pair these units in a line.
Seem todo a decent job. I was testing them in very sunny conditions
@Simon, exactly what I was thinking 🤔
Are they hard to install?
can you use one single repeater for more than one blind? i know you can use one remote for 4 blind but how does it work if you only use 1 single repeater in the room?
I have 6 blinds off one signal repeater
Yes, I think the limit is 10 now. But you have a repeater for each blinds you buy, so I have 5 blind and 5 repeaters - that's enough to make nice ZB network for everything including Ikea bulbs, etc.
Build quality looks decent but the fact you need to use the repeater and that I can't use it with offline software is a big no.
Why do people think smart is hooking something to the Internet? I'd love to see how "smart" your houses are with no Internet connection...
My house control is offline for a reason
Smart is not about being connected to the internet. Most of my house is smart, with 95% available offline if the internet or WiFi is down.
But specific to these blinds, you can control them with controls direct on the unit
I should clarify my smart comment.
Things are touted as smart when you can control them with an app. Like voice control that's not smart just another form of control, like using the buttons on the device.
As for these blinds I might buy a set becuase of ikeas build quality vs price but they'll likely be ripped apart and modified.
The repeater and using their app are the big no points for me.
Automating things shouldn't need a hundred boxes littered around my house
Agree with the comments about smart and definition of smart. I also agree the amount of boxes we need to make these things work
Active JR I have two of these FYRTUR blinds and despite what the instructions or app may tell to you don’t have to use the repeater once paired. If the gateway is within range the repeater is not needed at all. If you want to dig deep into this technology all the IKEA smart stuff are just ZigBee devices, you could just have the blind and a ZigBee dongle and make them work in any way you want, there is plenty of 3rd party software out there.
100% of my stuff is offline
Good first impressions video. Been waiting for these for some time to help with security. Clearly not quite the ideal solution at the moment but maybe this will come with refinement and continuous improvement over time. Thanks for sharing. 👍
When the first smart stuff from Ikea arrived. It was buggy. I am a big fan of the smart plug for the price. But Ikea need to quickly sort the issues out as customers have been waiting and want them. This is evident by the huge amount of traffic I get to any post or video. But these issues could kill the product
Is there an option to set an open or close by time ie. Open blinds at 7am or open blinds by 10% at 7am, Help you wake up.? That's the main use for a smart blind in my opinion.
Yes. You can do this in the IKEA home smart app. You will need the gateway thought at an extra 29
How long did your battery life last?
Are they loud?
Would love to see actual amount of light blocked out. Like all lights off in a room with the blinds down.
Watch the video
Definitely the cheapest automatic blind that I have come across. I wonder how long the battery last? I wish to install it outdoor.
Tin Man won’t work outdoors for sure. The battery lasts about 3 months based on my usage
How much where they
@@JRsReviews Battery is no problem anyway - you can get 8V PSU and voila - no batteries needed anymore.
Might pick these up once the HomeKit support is live so I could immediately ditch using IKEA’s app. It’s a shame there isn’t a port on the shades to wire them in to a little solar panel in the window to top up the charge.
I reckon someone could hack it and get to the charging port
I think the pairing issue might be battery related. I'm sure Paul Hibbert had a similar issue (I could be mistaken though)
Paul has not reviewed these as far as I am aware
Nothing todo with the battery
Absolute nightmare to set it up. Took half a day to set up 2 blinds, still couldn't make work completely. The 2nd blind would not configure to the maximum drop length I wanted. Would you happen to know why? I am doing exactly what I did for the 1st blind which works fine. Also 2nd blind do not work on the phone. When I try to control from the phone nothing happens to the blind.
This may not sound helpful, but I had to unpair everything and then reset the gateway
@@JRsReviews thanks so much for the reply. Ah, I was trying to avoid that but looks like that is the only option left. Love your review by the way.
@@JRsReviews I've had the same problem. Remote works both blinds no problem both before and after bringing the gateway on board but the app only connects with one of the blinds. I note that you had to reset from scratch but that you also mention adding another set of blinds eventually. Did you do so? Did you have to reset from scratch once again?
Sorry I didn’t get a notification for this msg. Glad you liked it and thanks for watching
I now have 6 blinds in total. 2 paired together and 4 paired together with one gateway, 1 remote controlling each pair and one repeater
Hi anyone know off a hack were you can change the curtain to another one in another collor
Can I lonk it to Google hone or Alexa
Please comment on the range of the remote / bridge.
I was able to still use them about 10 meters with the remote. The bridge is not really relevant as you need a signal repeater
Active JR, great thank you! 🙂
I just set up one blind and had the same software problems as yourself. Additionally I have not been able to get them to appear as a device in Alexa as yet. Is there any trick to getting Alexa to work?
Not got to Alexa testing yet. What errors are you getting?
No errors. The Ikea hub is added ok but the blinds are just not appearing as a device when detecting devices. I suspect that Alexa support for the blinds is just not there yet.
@@achisham From what I am told Alexa is not a supported device type
Yes - that is what I also found. Appears that it may only work with Google home which I do not have. A bit of a pain - hopefully they will add Alexa and/or HomeKit in the future.
Alan Chisham HomeKit is coming, they are waiting for the certification sign off
How much is the gap in the middle between the two actual shades?
About 20 mm
I like the review on this blind and I think it would work well in my kitchen but it's the technology of the thing it's either this or the old pull and push type.
My windows are 2700mm wide. Why are these blinds so tiny?!! I see you had to use two blinds in a single window frame...
Anyone notice the walmart spark on the cube device
Hi, can you please tell me what kind of screws you got? Cause I need to buy the same!
Plasterboard screws
Thanks for your video, it helped me immensely.
The repeater HAS to be on or the blinds no longer work. Even if you put the switch right on top of the blind.
You have to pair the switch to the repeater - and you have to see the switch slow flash twice to confirm. Then repeat the same with the blind, the switch has to slow flash twice AND the blind do the same, plus twitch the roller. If that doesn't happen, it won't have paired.
Waking the blind by pressing both buttons once basically breaks everything - the switch no longer controls the blind.
I'm hoping this will all be fixed if I get a hub so it can update the firmware.
Hoping they fix the software soon also
how long does the battery last
4-6 months based on one up and down motion
5 years
seeing the blinds not go down aligned is killing my OCD, did you fix this?
How many cycles of going up and down can they last? Is it 4 months with daily openings or weekly?
According to IKEA info it’s 4 - 5 months with daily use up and down once
How much are they?
Is this available in the UK already??
Yes. Stock levels on the website
Does it able to connect to Google Nest Mini? :o
Great video! It's really messing with me that those blinds are not in sync. It really takes away from the 'premium feel' which I feel like these would have if they were always in perfect sync
I have got them nearly in sync now.
I was the same
What if the motor is faulty?
Are different styles of shades available other than solid coverings?
Bob Baldesari you will be able to buy shade versions which allow light through.
How many times can you close and open them before to recharge battery?
Had them 2 months so far and not charged them yet. That’s opening and closing at least once per day
When are the non-blackout version available?
Later in the year I am told
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What's the battery life like on average?
Charging every 3 months. Some of them do deplete quicker though
Is the 195cm drop measured from the top or bottom of the spool?
It’s the drop from the spool
Active JR yes, but 195cm from the top of the spool or directly underneath it?
dj rozzer it’s the material that has a 195 drop
Active JR thank you
How many times do you have recharge
very 2 months on average
Were these purchased from a UK store?
Yes. My local store in the U.K. IKea UK store has the latest stock levels
In UK now
My biggest worry is what happens when the batteries run out? Is there an EEPROM that saves all the connection data or will you have to re-program them all over again? It seems crazy you cannot continuously charge the batteries up by a super-thin almost transparent ribbon giving a trickle charge via a nearby USB point or a solar feed. How long will a charged battery last in terms of numbers of up or down cycles for example? I bet there isn't even a warning light or sound to remind you to recharge the battery so you don't get the 100% drained effect with the blinds down fully or even half way down.
Imagine the hassle of having to reprogram the pesky things every 100 cycles as well as getting out the step ladders to access the battery. I have quite a few wireless devices that have rechargeable batteries inside and almost all of them have a USB port on the device plus a nice long charge up cable you can attach once you know it needs a 'refill' or better still leave it connected permanently.
I have had the batteries out for 2 hours and everything was still in working order. So I assume they have some sort of coin battery to save this data in memory
It is mid oct and they still have not hit my local ikea
US I take it? If so they announced last week a delay in the US - www.activejr.com/yes-another-delay-to-the-ikea-smart-blind-us-release/
Starting to appear in US stores now - www.activejr.com/ikea-smart-blinds-start-appearing-in-us-stores/
I wish they would offer a wired version ...
Battery lasts long enough.
not really interested in a battery ... looking for a wired product ...