I seem to have it listed as DDR4 In my spec readout. I can assure you that the card uses GDDR6 Memory. I have also just heard from Palit that they decided to include the 6 pin in case of power spikes or instability. I will be putting this card through some more real world tests at some point soon.
@@danieladams7919 that's the problem, Nvidia and AMD can get away with charging anything they want for a certain GPU, even if it is a complete ripoff like the 1630 and 6500XT, and people will still buy it due to the current state of the market.
Between Nvidia releasing this abomination and the Intel A380 suffering from a particularly severe case of FineWine and not existing in the west, it looks like AMD somehow managed to win the "low-budget" battle by virtue of existing.
Yeah, this card doesn't outperfrm a 1050Ti, but is more expensive than one... Looking on "sold items" on eBay UK, it's clear to see that the 1050Ti, an older card that beats this 1630 in performance, can be had for under £100. Also, note that the 1050Ti does not need a 6 pin power connector!
@@TheSpotify95 Since the crypto drop and a big wave of cards being resold, prices have been coming way down. I saw a GTX 1060 go for £60 today, 3GB version but still faster than the 1050 TI (and therefore 1630).
The 1650 is an amazing card, I used it to replace my aging 750ti. The thing about it though is that the card sits exactly right at the 75w power line, so, unless you get a version that has a power connector, you'll be missing performance every time the card hits the pcie power limit
Main selling point of 1030 for me it being was it's low profile and not needing additional power. This is what made it great as plug and play upgrade for old corporate Dell/Hp workstation prebuilds. Both features lost by 1630.
An unfortunate miss from invidia. I imagine tho in a midtower dell optiplex with a sata to 6 pin adapter it would preform admirably. I wouldn't be worried about the adapter either since the card barely draws past 50 watts in normal use as mentioned in the video.
AIB do that only so they can charge more for low profile versions without need for six pin connector. Not a first time. But expect them to be even slower than this one, power limit will be around 50W because some OEM boards can give just that over PCIe (screw standards I guess)
Usually when people say 30 series they are talking about the RTX 3000 line up of cards and not the 30 tier of cards like the 730, 1030, 1630. Apart from that confusion I this was an excellent video as always.
@@jubeh Yeah but 30 tier and 30 series are not the same thing, 30 tier is the class of card, like 730 and so on, whereas 30 series refers to stuff like the RTX 3050 and the like.
Gotta love it when Nvidia releases a card comparable to an entry level card from 6 years ago. I'm curious to see how it holds up 2 or 3 years into the future
I am more impressed on how it handles a little bit worse than a 1050ti, Well done, NVIDIA. Jokes aside though, this card had so much potential, but NVIDIA decided to ruin it by giving it a 64-bit memory bus and less CUDA cores on the GPU core.
It's too expensive. But your right about potential. Imagine how good it would have been if it had just been given dlss. And the 6 pin is complete bogus lol.
I'd rather use Fermi or Kepler than that abomination, should have been at least 128 bit but lol nope. Business people just like government make some of the most ridiculous decisions sometimes.
It's amazing how awful this card is for the price. It's worse than the 1050ti that cost the same and has a matching TDP and also has the possibility to run without 6-pin power, a card that released in 2016. Six years ago you could've spent the same money and had a better experience. I think this might be the worst GPU release of all time.
It depends on your budget and what system you are putting it in, it also depends on what coutry you are in. In the US you can get an rx 6600 for around 250-300, don't go for rtx cards as they are still selling for a premium. Gtx 1070, 1070 ti, 1080, 1080 ti are all 250 or under to around 150. Don't bother with the gtx 16xx series as the 1070 is cheaper and faster. Under that you won't be getting much of an upgrade. Edit: should have said before but all of these prices are used off of ebay
I think honestly and rtx 3060 ti would be the sweet spot so long as you have a good cpu to not bottle neck it. It's performance at 1440p is acceptional and while it is power hungry (I think it draws 200w), I don't think that's far off the Rx 580s TDP. Budget is budget tho so any other option like an Rx 6600 or a 3050 will be great too.
1:47 To be fair, DLSS support is massively, MASSIVELY less important now in a post AMD FSR 2.0 world, especially with how ridiculously easy it seems to be to mod the latter into games supporting the former.
@@TacticalPhoenixYT Lol this is a pile of utter Nvidia fanboy bullshit. The performance gains of DLSS 2.x & FSR 2.0 are EXTREMELY SIMILAR for the exact same lower input resolution. Don't confuse their various quality level names (i.e. "Quality", "Performance", etc...) with the actual input resolutions those tiers correlate to as they are NOT always the same across both upscalers! At least so far, Nvidia's tensor cores are mostly just worthless, wasted die area/transistors for exclusively gamers, regardless of whatever misleading BS they try to convince you of. There's a reason AMD only puts tensor/matrix accelerator units on their CDNA GPU's (yup, AMD's had equivalent tensor hardware for a WHIIIILE now. They just deliberately CHOOSE not to put it in RDNA). Those are the only products where it ACTUALLY makes sense. 🤷♂️
Honestly they really need to have this at $70-80 USD otherwise people in the market for this thing would be better off saving a bit more for an RX 6500 or even 6600.
An RX 6500 can even be *cheaper* than a GTX 1630. BestBuy has the XFX QICK210 RX 6500 listed for $180, which is cheaper than a GTX 1630 directly from EVGA @ $200. I couldn’t find a 1630 listed for sale on any other website (retailer, AIB, or even an FE model from Nvidia), so suffice to say that demand is nonexistent.
@@andyhuang8010 a 1650 and 1050ti has lower MSRP it's not even funny anymore. Ofc those card wont go to MSRP anymore and will probably stay at the 180$ mark until they disappear
@@andyhuang8010 Not looking for a card for my rig, but considering the main target group for these cards, what is the limit to pair with a 6500 on PCIe3? Because that's the kind of machines the card will end up in. Ryzen 2000 & 3000 systems, older i5/i7, maybe some FX here or there. People looking to get better graphics for their APUs, etc... Basically all PCIe3 systems. At that point a used GTX 1060, GTX 1650, RX 570 or RX 5500 XT are available.
I just saved a Quadro K620 from the ewaste pile at work. Sure, its 8 years old but it'll do just fine in my server. It is just about on par with this card.
As an enthusiast of the sub 75w market, the thing I never see addressed about the GTX 1630 is the RX 6400. At $10 more it trades blows with the GTX 1650, which the GTX 1630 is cut from. Nvidia just didn't price this card right, and my guess is they're trying to get rid of unsold or defective 1650 without cannibalizing their 3050 market at a minimal loss, because, as you rightly said, the 30 tier (vs 30 series, it kept confusing me every time you said 30 series when this is a 16 series 30 tier card) should be the realm of the $70-90 price bracket
With the RX 6400 it really depends. For example in RE village without FSR it performs around a GTX 1060, on Quality it goes past a 3050, on Balanced it comes close to a 3060, and with FSR in performance mode it's even faster. On the other hand it loses about half it's performance on PCIe3. And the RX 6400 is even weaker than the 6500, Some games, like Elden Ring, see barely any difference, even in 1440p, others, like Doom Eternal see a massive reduction, even on 1080p. But the 6400 is still faster than the 1630
Pretty sure that I've seen a review from another TH-camr about this, so kinda know what to expect. What I'm interested to know is whether your card has the 6 pin power connector or not. (edit: it DOES have one) After all, this card is no better than a GTX 1050Ti, so with the power connector requirement and the small 64-bit bus, you really might as well just pick up a used 1050Ti, and go from there.
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
Case and point, a few days ago, I bought an EVGA GTX 1060 6Gb SSC for $130. That was less than the msrp for the gtx 1630, and the 1630 is handily beaten by the 1060, and the 1060 has 2Gb more vram, and a 192 bit memory bus.
Makes my i5 3330 and 1050ti system look modern. Wonder what this holds for the future of budget graphics card. Nothing worth getting under 300$? Shame!
Not a lot of modern options other than perhaps a 2060 or if lucky a 1070/80 but personally I am getting away with an i7 3840qm pared with an mxm RX580 just fine.
I really hope in the future NVIDIA won't be saturating the market with cards like this. Honestly it wasn't a card we asked for or needed. I get maybe they had left over silicon lying around, but I'm preaching to the choir at this point. It's also definitely not worth the price unless NVIDIA kills support for 900 and 1000 series GPUs (cause why buy a 1630 when you could get a 1060 6GB or 1070) then I would expect this card to be bought a lot more; which for all we know they are considering. Though I would be pretty angry if my 1080 ti lost driver support because they wanted to make a quick buck. PS: I love the cat
Same as PC builder anyways spam: I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
My view point on Scaling / DLSS etc is that it blurs the lines when benchmarking, I would rather a 1:1 comparison without scaling. Thanks for the great benchmarks keep them coming
Abraham Chicken Lam, I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
Kinda weird how there are driver issues, as it's just a cut-down GTX 1650 G6. Like you said, the pricing of this is insane considering the very low performance.
Genuinely not sure what purpose this card serves at the price point since there are plenty of cards especially on the used market that will perform much better for *the same price*. It doesn't even have the advantage of being low profile or not requiring a 6-pin to go in those old Optiplex builds like you could with the old 1030. Would imagine NVidia is going to have a hard time moving these.
I bet most of these will go to oem's NVidia loves moving their junk in bulk. they thought the crypto gravy train would keep going and they could pas these off at a premium.......
Just get a RX 6400 (a recent easily low profile card) or RX 6500 XT (better than integrated graphics and a "ok" gaming card [it's a bit of a stretch] ) they handle their situation of low bandwidth much better. And notice this is the only GTX card that's equivalent to the bandwidth limitations of those cards (PCI 4 though, but that shouldn't discount it), which is only helping market infinity cache really well. And keep in mind the majority of 1630 are Overclocked versions (needing the 8 pin), at higher prices, not likely a OEM will ever go for the base cards.
DLSS is hardware, and it's machine learning tensor cores. What your sentence is actually saying is, doesn't it make more sense to put lots of expensive tensor cores on a budget card . . . . .
Hello stranger: I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
@@SlickOnTop It is ITX/Linux build th-cam.com/video/VHCXe_vTPr8/w-d-xo.html here you can find the cost to see if es good not forcing you just an interesting video plus on Nvidia laptops they tend to be proprietary Also fun fact: the Rx 6500 XT is more power efficient though not sure about it
@@SianaGearz That is true. But at the price a 1630 will run you as a LP GPU you might as well buy a 6400 XT. Plus you’ll get more driver support… wether or not AMD is the one releasing those drivers is kind of a toss up.
Power consumption should be something we focus on more : my main pc became a laptop recently, and i at least doubled my fps on most titles while now only using a 200W power supply ! This summer might be cooler than usual.
Just try to get 1-2 higher tiers of the GPU and underclock+undervolt. My underclocked 3060Ti at 140 watts is about 50% faster than a 3050 at 130 watts. Underclocked my CPU too, and whole PC uses slightly over 200w in games at most
@@Jbrimbelibap Somewhere around/over the Laptop 3070 has unbeatable efficiency (for Nvidia GPUs, excluding workstation ones at least). Because consumer GeForce cards start to use GDDR6X above the 3070 desktop, and they can use 100+ watts depending on the nunber of memory chips...
On the box it says Turing Shaders, to most people who have been keeping up this means they KNOW the card will probably not support any kind of ray tracing, so for it to not even have DLSS not to mention any RT features, it turns into a very shady marketing ploy.
Doesn't make sense to name a xx30 series card a GTX instead of a GT like the others. This only confuses the consumers to get tricked into buying a low end card as a gaming card.
@@teensuicide9103 I'm doubtful - most cards will tell you to power down and plug the external power in. If it would run without then it leads me to wonder why they'd go through the hassle of adding it at all
1650, which was already a bad value, came out for the same MSRP. 1650 super, which is around 70%faster, can be had for around 10 quid more than this... Nvidia just did the release right after the crypto crash for this price? Baaaad decision.
This would be great if it was a sub 100 dollar card im sure it will get lower eventually but 150 dollars is not worth it honestly at that point just get a 1650 or the amd equivalent if u can find one for msrp that is
one of the worst values for a low end GPU in the last years...even AMD's RX 6400 and 6500 smash this one in value and those are trash value by themselves
I find this card genuinely insulting. Only a couple of years ago you would get a 1650 for the same frekkin price, nevermind the fact that performance since then has moved on and we're getting close to Lovelace's release. Even the 1030 was released before a new architecture was released.
If I do remember with that spec and features Nvidia offer . It seems similar or near to my current Radeon RX6400 low profile GPU. With minor adding features. Since it's new rDNA 2 architecture 6nm process
I'm kinda sure the 7970 (~ R9 280x iirc?) should beat it on lower settings, but generally those older flagships lose more in comparsion with newer technologies at play. From what I recall Tessellation gave even some (back then) new GPUs massive FPS drops. Honestly, the card would have been good at 60-80€ and amazing with DLSS, it would still be somewhat plausible up to 100€, but it's silly beyond that IMO.
This is basically the modern day GT 520, I expect to see them in all OEMS by next year and in the bargain bin in 5 years (if not rebadged to a GT 1720)
Nvidia definitely needs to up their game if they want to stay in the budget market given that Amd is doing way better and intel desktop gpus are coming
I was hoping this to be more of an equivalent to the rx6400 and the 1030, where it’s a single slot, half height that has no additional power. Unfortunately it looks like there’s only half height, 2 slot versions
£150 for this GPU is a joke, the performance it offers and features it offers makes it worth £80 tops. You can get an 8GB RX580 right now for £120 or so that comfortably beats the GTX1630 let alone if you tune the RX580s memory timings and OC it, believe it or not, Polaris can be power efficient as long as you are willing to put the work in to tune it up on the vBIOS level. At best, the 1630 is the kind of GPU that belongs in a laptop.
2 years later, AMD Z1 extreme APU in Asus and Lenovo hand helds are playing modern titles. Bought an ally preowned for 450usd on ebay, and ive heard of people getting them for less, and its super impressive. I will say ill use 720p pretty often for better fps
The pricing is a bit out ccl had the card shown today for 192 which is 35 pounds more than a new in box 1050ti and only another 13 quid off buying a 1650 which destroys this and the 1050ti
I think Nvidia's current DLSS requires RTX hardware which is why you aren't seeing it on GTX cards. Leave it to AMD saving the day for an Nvida card. Anyways, I think this card was designed when we were still at the height of the gpu shortage and prices were much higher. It was rushed to market but then the marketplace had already changed.
If it's only peaking at the 60W mark, there's still a decent amount of room for overclocking here. Would be interesting to see what thsi card could do with another 10% on the clocks. Though, with the limited memory bus, overlocking the vram at all probably won't help much. Just a thought. Additionally. Would it be possible to add a game like V-Rising to your test suite? It's got a fair amount of regular players and it's pretty demanding for what it is. Even my 2080ti can't manage to it at 1440p with higher settings without dropping below 60fps.
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
See, this isn't a GT1030 TDP though. The GT1030 still has the distinct advantage of a 30W TDP, whereas this has the 1050 issue of the "some BPO and some not" options, but in all cases targets that 75W TDP or higher. Honestly this card is atrocious value even in places where a good used market doesn't exist. It's a slap in the face of consumers and definitely a slap in the face of all of the power efficiency improvements we've made over the years. It would absolutely be doable to make a surprisingly-capable BPO card that would have been excellent value for money and provided a great option for systems without a beefy power supply. Such a shame. Ironically, Nvidia has just made the RX6400 look like much better value, because that card sits around 1050Ti / 1650 performance, is low profile and BPO, and has the exact same MSRP as the "GTX" 1630, or even lower depending. The EVGA model of this card is 200USD. Are they insane? You can pick up a 6500XT brand new for less money. Absolute fools.
Nvidia's strategy of only enabling DLSS on the high end cards really is backward. DLSS is a feature that is more useful the less powerful your GPU is, but for some reason they disable it on the cards that stand to benefit the most from it.
Frobot The Robot 😆😝😅 Definitely makes more sense to have those cards with either low profile, or with no external power connector. Who knows, maybe it would a rival for the wonderful GDDR5 variant of the GT1030 👍 Cracking video again fella. There's a magic to your videos which makes them informative and enjoyable, quite therapeutic 😉
Good video. I just wish you had some CP2077 testing. I have a 1600s series card for the last 2 years (few weeks before the "release" of the RTX 30 series and I am 100% satisfied with it. A GTX1660 Super. AMD should be given praise for what they do with supporting even them where NVIDIA (DLSS) doesn't give a poop.
@@takehirolol5962 tier above equivalency only (the historical way Nvidia did cards, though this is getting less and less true overtime), 1730 would be a 1650 in performance.
I'm almost surprised by how "fine" it works. I mean, I was thinking you'd get some Rage 128 Pro level of rendering, but yet it managed to be almost not too bad, I'd say...
If I had to ASAP replace my GTX 1070, I'd tolerate my 650ti OC 2GB for long enough to save up for at least an GTX 1650/super over the -GT- GTX 1630. Despite the GT1030 levels of performance it could still be used for video encoding - and my current 1440p screen scales low resolutions well (1280x720 is quite clear, even with my early 2000's PC).
I don't think people reasonably purchase their hardware based on future resale prices, they buy what is available at their budget at the time. I also have a 1650, I paid less than retail for it when I got it and agree its a great little card, haven't had any issues playing the games I want.
@@andyshtroymish4997 I spent around the same as the GTX 1630 (think like 230 Canadian) for my 1650 back in December 2019. Had buyers remorse. Then the GPU prices went nuts and this has been one of the best things I've bought.
The GPU shortage appears to be at the end. There are 1660 supers available on eBay for a similar price. If you're on a budget then probably better off gambling on a used card.
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It's market forces, and a two horse race, where the two CEO's are actually related to each other, from the same family. Add to that the trend for Nvidia "fans" to pay whatever was asked, even prices for inferior Nvidia cards were higher than their superior ATI/AMD competition, including paying £1000+ for the original "Titan", and you give the companies the green light to both work together to squeeze every last penny out of the consumers. Low end cards are not considered by gamers, at least in the big markets, and usually cost from £70-£110, depending on the model. Mid range, where most gamers buy, have historically been between £130-£270 (I'm not counting the GTX970 as a mid range card, which came in at £300). The high end, where very few people buy, was always between £300-£400. These prices were set, inflation adjusted, since the times of the Geforce 2 MX, Geforce 2 GTS and Geforce 2 Ultra. Or the R7 240, R9 270 and R9 290X. For examples... After the launch of the Titan, and the utter failure of PC gamers to recognize the far superior options AMD managed to create over the best part of an entire decade from judging of sales percentages of AMD/Nvidia counterparts, together with uninformed consumers swallowing hilariously biased reviews and articles from a corrupt tech press for years, we get where we are TODAY. The Titan was the beginning, but Nvidia did it again with the Titan X, costing a measly £1100 ... only to be beaten by the 980Ti just days after the very last Titan X was bought by morons. The 980Ti coming in at half the price of the Titan X. The GTX780Ti coming in at half the price of the original Titan. AMD was driven into the arms of the console manufacturers and who can blame them? And they began making much more profit from CPU's around the same time with Ryzen. Nvidia concocted more meaningless speil marketing with "RTX POWER", much like "PhysX Extensions", and their fanatical fanbase bought it "no matter what". You will have to wait a long time, until every last drop is squeezed and the manufacturers are forced to accpet lower profit margins from a disgruntled consumer base (but good luck with that with India and China now becoming wealthier) or wait for Intel or another 3rd party to join the race. Until then, be happy with your card. Chances are, if you bought it around 4-5 years ago and payed £300 or thereabouts, it will be as powerful as a £300 card is today.
Hey Budget great work on taking a look at this GTX 1630... I currently still use a GT 1030 ddr5 for media use. I thoroughly enjoyed your honest review of this latest Nvidia GPU. I was hoping for new features as well with this card. I was wondering about the 64 bit bus and how many Gigabytes per second it got using DDR6?
Might be wrong but the original intended use for dlss was to offset the performance impact of raytracing with a focus on 4k gaming. Given that a budget card featured here doesn’t have nearly enough power to do either it makes some sense as to why nvidea opted not to put tensor cores in the first place as that would drive the price up significantly. On top of that I’m not sure if this card is even made for gaming it seems more useful to business applications in which you need a bit more power than integrated graphics where you can spend a bit less money to buy an F variant of an Intel cpu and put a bit extra to get a card that can do much better than intel’s integrated graphics while still drawing low amounts of power making tensor cores not useful in that scenario either.
People have been modding FSR 2.0 on games that have DLSS support with some success, as both technologies are based on temporal reconstruction. On other games, you can force global FSR 1.0 using Magpie. Or you can use Nvidia Image Sharpening, for a FSR like experience.
Honestly next you should do a Intel Xeon and show how good they are because with how cheap they are and how many cores they offer it seems like a good option
As somebody who has both a 1650 GDDR6 and an ASUS DUAL 1660 SUPER OC- Y THO. I am somebody who very much believes in and recommends the 16 series at the right price. And even IM scratching my head.
I would've killed for this around 2017-18 when I was a teenager trying to play GTA 5 on an HP pre-built with an i3 4130T an HD4400 graphics. 800x600 low-(some)med is as good as it got, and it wasn't exactly 60fps, or even 30 a lot of the time. If I set it to 720p it would get like 15FPS, and 1080p was about 5.
my first pc was an i7 8700 and a 1050 2gb that i got around that time and gta5 always played like crap because i didnt know you could change the graphics, i was getting a horrible 25-30fps stutterfest @1080p i still managed to beat the game though lol
To put this in perspective, GTX 1070s sell for less than the 1630s MSRP, allbeit, the GTX 1070 is used and the 1630 is new. However, shopping used at this pricepoint is not a bad idea as long as you're vigilant and use sites like eBay and sellers with good feedback. If the power consumption, size, and shopping used doesn't bother you, shop used.
I seem to have it listed as DDR4 In my spec readout. I can assure you that the card uses GDDR6 Memory.
I have also just heard from Palit that they decided to include the 6 pin in case of power spikes or instability. I will be putting this card through some more real world tests at some point soon.
Good to know
@JiroPro waiting for ddr1
@@user-fe7bo5mm1o waiting for RDRAM
I was going to say. It couldn't possibly be THAT bad... but then again, Nvidia 🤣
Can you tell us the lottery numbers?
This thing should be like $89 max. The upward trend of the prices of low end graphics cards, from both AMD and Nvidia, is absolutely ridiculous.
They will not sell them at that price unless people are buying them. Don't buy them and prices will come down.
@@danieladams7919 that didn't really work these past few generations
@@danieladams7919 that's the problem, Nvidia and AMD can get away with charging anything they want for a certain GPU, even if it is a complete ripoff like the 1630 and 6500XT, and people will still buy it due to the current state of the market.
@@KingTurkeySub 6500xt can be found in similar price now. And it's 100% faster than this turd. Not saying that its an amazing card either mind you
@@abibirawa4119 yeah it's crazy how the 1630 makes the 6500XT look good
Having a 64 bit bus with GDDR6 memory is like having a sporty twin-turbo inline 6 with the exhausts the diameter of a HB pencil
It's like taking a Ferrari and installing a lawnmower engine in it.
Its like having a v8 and having only one cylinder fire
It’s like having any turbo’d engine run only at wastegate pressure
Its been typed wrongly as ddr4 but its gddr6 yeh ok
It's like having a F136S engine coupled to a old Chrysler 3 speed automatic: The engine wants to rev high, but the gears are so loooong and spaced out
Between Nvidia releasing this abomination and the Intel A380 suffering from a particularly severe case of FineWine and not existing in the west, it looks like AMD somehow managed to win the "low-budget" battle by virtue of existing.
They won by default basically lol. I'm hoping in the future we get better options then this but with how things are going I'm not too hopeful.
Well said
I'd still take a 1630 over a 6400, AMD's low end cards just don't have any form of encoder
@@hardrivethrutown buy a cheap used chip instead. still better than this garbage apparently... The rx 6400 needs to go back into a laptop
@@hardrivethrutown I'd just buy something like a used RX 470/80 or 570/80 over either tbh.
This card makes the GTX 1650 seem like an amazing deal.
Yeah, this card doesn't outperfrm a 1050Ti, but is more expensive than one... Looking on "sold items" on eBay UK, it's clear to see that the 1050Ti, an older card that beats this 1630 in performance, can be had for under £100. Also, note that the 1050Ti does not need a 6 pin power connector!
As someone who is running that very card I can confirm it does but the card is still not a good deal lol. Hopefully price drops will fix that someday.
@@TheSpotify95 Not to mention the RX 570...
@@TheSpotify95 Since the crypto drop and a big wave of cards being resold, prices have been coming way down. I saw a GTX 1060 go for £60 today, 3GB version but still faster than the 1050 TI (and therefore 1630).
The 1650 is an amazing card, I used it to replace my aging 750ti. The thing about it though is that the card sits exactly right at the 75w power line, so, unless you get a version that has a power connector, you'll be missing performance every time the card hits the pcie power limit
Main selling point of 1030 for me it being was it's low profile and not needing additional power. This is what made it great as plug and play upgrade for old corporate Dell/Hp workstation prebuilds. Both features lost by 1630.
An unfortunate miss from invidia. I imagine tho in a midtower dell optiplex with a sata to 6 pin adapter it would preform admirably. I wouldn't be worried about the adapter either since the card barely draws past 50 watts in normal use as mentioned in the video.
AIB do that only so they can charge more for low profile versions without need for six pin connector. Not a first time.
But expect them to be even slower than this one, power limit will be around 50W because some OEM boards can give just that over PCIe (screw standards I guess)
@@ChroniclyBentPipe the old vida is out here comes the new invidia jokes aside unintentional pun you got yourself
theres a 1650 low profile
Exactly I find it hard to see how anyone would upgrade to this from a gt 1030.
Usually when people say 30 series they are talking about the RTX 3000 line up of cards and not the 30 tier of cards like the 730, 1030, 1630. Apart from that confusion I this was an excellent video as always.
GT 1030 comparable to the Ryzen 5 5600G intergrated graphics
Perhaps “X30” would be a better shorthand?
same here, I was like "Wait" my 3060 ti does not have a 64 bit bus....
30 tier would be the right term though
@@jubeh Yeah but 30 tier and 30 series are not the same thing, 30 tier is the class of card, like 730 and so on, whereas 30 series refers to stuff like the RTX 3050 and the like.
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1050 performance
1030 consumption
1070 price
Gotta love it when Nvidia releases a card comparable to an entry level card from 6 years ago. I'm curious to see how it holds up 2 or 3 years into the future
You buy it and then it immediately needs to be upgraded
Imagine being worse than a 1050ti and released in 2022
it holds up 0 years into the future
@@lasue7244 yeah I imagine tho it would be pretty awesome in a 2nd gen i7 dell optiplex.
@@loowick4074 we are in a very weird point in gpu history my friend. Glad the prices are finally dropping tho!
I am more impressed on how it handles a little bit worse than a 1050ti, Well done, NVIDIA. Jokes aside though, this card had so much potential, but NVIDIA decided to ruin it by giving it a 64-bit memory bus and less CUDA cores on the GPU core.
This card is worse than a 1050Ti and requires a 6 pin power connector... Plus, it's too expensive.
It's too expensive. But your right about potential. Imagine how good it would have been if it had just been given dlss. And the 6 pin is complete bogus lol.
I'd rather use Fermi or Kepler than that abomination, should have been at least 128 bit but lol nope. Business people just like government make some of the most ridiculous decisions sometimes.
More CUDA cores and wider bus would turn it into 1650 :D And it would cost more.
Makes me feel good for my 1050Ti hahahaha
It's amazing how awful this card is for the price. It's worse than the 1050ti that cost the same and has a matching TDP and also has the possibility to run without 6-pin power, a card that released in 2016. Six years ago you could've spent the same money and had a better experience.
I think this might be the worst GPU release of all time.
The worst modern gpu indeed.
The GT210 of the 2020s, that’s for sure.
(EDIT: On second thought, after seeing the 210 video - maybe it's closer to a 710 instead.)
The 1050 Ti used did cost less than 100 bucks a few years ago. This GPU doesn't reach below 150 on the used market. Self-parody, honestly.
i really thought it was a 75$ card seeing the performance... thats insane
i thought 60$
Love the cat! It really enhances the video.
Love videos like this. Helps with debating what to get to replace my RX580 while not breaking the bank.
This will definitely be a downgrade from your 580 IMO
A 1070 or RTX 3050 will give you 40% more performance. Depends on your CPU as well.
It depends on your budget and what system you are putting it in, it also depends on what coutry you are in. In the US you can get an rx 6600 for around 250-300, don't go for rtx cards as they are still selling for a premium. Gtx 1070, 1070 ti, 1080, 1080 ti are all 250 or under to around 150. Don't bother with the gtx 16xx series as the 1070 is cheaper and faster. Under that you won't be getting much of an upgrade.
Edit: should have said before but all of these prices are used off of ebay
What’s hilarious is even a RX 570 is a much bigger upgrade than… THIS
I think honestly and rtx 3060 ti would be the sweet spot so long as you have a good cpu to not bottle neck it. It's performance at 1440p is acceptional and while it is power hungry (I think it draws 200w), I don't think that's far off the Rx 580s TDP. Budget is budget tho so any other option like an Rx 6600 or a 3050 will be great too.
the names actually really fitting because you get the performance of a graphics card from when you were 16 years old but now you're 30
1:47 To be fair, DLSS support is massively, MASSIVELY less important now in a post AMD FSR 2.0 world, especially with how ridiculously easy it seems to be to mod the latter into games supporting the former.
Then again, dlss is still superior performance wise due to its utilization of tensor cores.
@@TacticalPhoenixYT Lol this is a pile of utter Nvidia fanboy bullshit. The performance gains of DLSS 2.x & FSR 2.0 are EXTREMELY SIMILAR for the exact same lower input resolution.
Don't confuse their various quality level names (i.e. "Quality", "Performance", etc...) with the actual input resolutions those tiers correlate to as they are NOT always the same across both upscalers!
At least so far, Nvidia's tensor cores are mostly just worthless, wasted die area/transistors for exclusively gamers, regardless of whatever misleading BS they try to convince you of. There's a reason AMD only puts tensor/matrix accelerator units on their CDNA GPU's (yup, AMD's had equivalent tensor hardware for a WHIIIILE now. They just deliberately CHOOSE not to put it in RDNA). Those are the only products where it ACTUALLY makes sense. 🤷♂️
@@TacticalPhoenixYTYes dlss is better no it's not that much better.
Honestly they really need to have this at $70-80 USD otherwise people in the market for this thing would be better off saving a bit more for an RX 6500 or even 6600.
people aho buy the 30serie aren't looking for better card, and lots of thise people exist
An RX 6500 can even be *cheaper* than a GTX 1630. BestBuy has the XFX QICK210 RX 6500 listed for $180, which is cheaper than a GTX 1630 directly from EVGA @ $200. I couldn’t find a 1630 listed for sale on any other website (retailer, AIB, or even an FE model from Nvidia), so suffice to say that demand is nonexistent.
@@andyhuang8010 a 1650 and 1050ti has lower MSRP it's not even funny anymore.
Ofc those card wont go to MSRP anymore and will probably stay at the 180$ mark until they disappear
@@andyhuang8010 Not looking for a card for my rig, but considering the main target group for these cards, what is the limit to pair with a 6500 on PCIe3? Because that's the kind of machines the card will end up in. Ryzen 2000 & 3000 systems, older i5/i7, maybe some FX here or there. People looking to get better graphics for their APUs, etc... Basically all PCIe3 systems. At that point a used GTX 1060, GTX 1650, RX 570 or RX 5500 XT are available.
I wanted to replace a 270x with this as I dont game and don't want a second hand card. I'm spending 150 on this though..
I just saved a Quadro K620 from the ewaste pile at work. Sure, its 8 years old but it'll do just fine in my server. It is just about on par with this card.
You saved it that is the most important thing you did
it has enough firepower to be useful. well done.
Aww, Nova is so floofy! More cat updates please!
As an enthusiast of the sub 75w market, the thing I never see addressed about the GTX 1630 is the RX 6400. At $10 more it trades blows with the GTX 1650, which the GTX 1630 is cut from. Nvidia just didn't price this card right, and my guess is they're trying to get rid of unsold or defective 1650 without cannibalizing their 3050 market at a minimal loss, because, as you rightly said, the 30 tier (vs 30 series, it kept confusing me every time you said 30 series when this is a 16 series 30 tier card) should be the realm of the $70-90 price bracket
With the RX 6400 it really depends. For example in RE village without FSR it performs around a GTX 1060, on Quality it goes past a 3050, on Balanced it comes close to a 3060, and with FSR in performance mode it's even faster. On the other hand it loses about half it's performance on PCIe3.
And the RX 6400 is even weaker than the 6500, Some games, like Elden Ring, see barely any difference, even in 1440p, others, like Doom Eternal see a massive reduction, even on 1080p.
But the 6400 is still faster than the 1630
Pretty sure that I've seen a review from another TH-camr about this, so kinda know what to expect. What I'm interested to know is whether your card has the 6 pin power connector or not. (edit: it DOES have one)
After all, this card is no better than a GTX 1050Ti, so with the power connector requirement and the small 64-bit bus, you really might as well just pick up a used 1050Ti, and go from there.
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
I can see manufacturers throwing out a card without extra power requirement. Something like 65W TDP and low profile should be possible.
Case and point, a few days ago, I bought an EVGA GTX 1060 6Gb SSC for $130. That was less than the msrp for the gtx 1630, and the 1630 is handily beaten by the 1060, and the 1060 has 2Gb more vram, and a 192 bit memory bus.
Makes my i5 3330 and 1050ti system look modern.
Wonder what this holds for the future of budget graphics card.
Nothing worth getting under 300$?
Shame!
Well here in Australia I can get a 2060 super for under 300
Inflation is a bitch. Everything else has went up 100%, so why not GPU's.
Not a lot of modern options other than perhaps a 2060 or if lucky a 1070/80 but personally I am getting away with an i7 3840qm pared with an mxm RX580 just fine.
The cheapest RTX 3050s are about 300EUR, so I guess that the USD price is similar.
@@captain1334 that ain't fair its priced higher here in the U.S
Well you have been getting the short end of the stick for existing
I really hope in the future NVIDIA won't be saturating the market with cards like this. Honestly it wasn't a card we asked for or needed. I get maybe they had left over silicon lying around, but I'm preaching to the choir at this point. It's also definitely not worth the price unless NVIDIA kills support for 900 and 1000 series GPUs (cause why buy a 1630 when you could get a 1060 6GB or 1070) then I would expect this card to be bought a lot more; which for all we know they are considering. Though I would be pretty angry if my 1080 ti lost driver support because they wanted to make a quick buck. PS: I love the cat
Same as PC builder anyways spam:
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
@@adrianafamilymember6427 The 1660 ti and super really are the best budget GPUs next to the 3050 and 3060 of course.
Not just a 1060, but also the 1650 / 1660 are there, making the 1630 doa
My view point on Scaling / DLSS etc is that it blurs the lines when benchmarking, I would rather a 1:1 comparison without scaling. Thanks for the great benchmarks keep them coming
TLDR: Decent card but too expensive? Or perhaps, priced six months ago.
Abraham Chicken Lam, I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
Kinda weird how there are driver issues, as it's just a cut-down GTX 1650 G6. Like you said, the pricing of this is insane considering the very low performance.
Genuinely not sure what purpose this card serves at the price point since there are plenty of cards especially on the used market that will perform much better for *the same price*. It doesn't even have the advantage of being low profile or not requiring a 6-pin to go in those old Optiplex builds like you could with the old 1030. Would imagine NVidia is going to have a hard time moving these.
I’m pretty sure this is nVidia repurposing their faulty GPU parts.This may be good on non-OEM SFF builds.
I bet most of these will go to oem's NVidia loves moving their junk in bulk. they thought the crypto gravy train would keep going and they could pas these off at a premium.......
Remember the 1010
Just get a RX 6400 (a recent easily low profile card) or RX 6500 XT (better than integrated graphics and a "ok" gaming card [it's a bit of a stretch] ) they handle their situation of low bandwidth much better. And notice this is the only GTX card that's equivalent to the bandwidth limitations of those cards (PCI 4 though, but that shouldn't discount it), which is only helping market infinity cache really well. And keep in mind the majority of 1630 are Overclocked versions (needing the 8 pin), at higher prices, not likely a OEM will ever go for the base cards.
Surely it makes more sense to have DLSS on those budget cards?
DLSS is hardware, and it's machine learning tensor cores. What your sentence is actually saying is, doesn't it make more sense to put lots of expensive tensor cores on a budget card . . . . .
The RX 6400 trounces this card and provides ray tracing at lower resolutions for the same price.
Hello stranger:
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
@@adrianafamilymember6427 it also costs a lot more
@@SlickOnTop true that about $570-580 for the less SSD storage
The whole laptop of course
@@SlickOnTop It is ITX/Linux build th-cam.com/video/VHCXe_vTPr8/w-d-xo.html here you can find the cost to see if es good not forcing you just an interesting video plus on Nvidia laptops they tend to be proprietary
Also fun fact: the Rx 6500 XT is more power efficient though not sure about it
Nvidia always has to "one up" AMD, and in this case that meant releasing a bigger turd than the gimped 6500 and the 6400.
The GTX 970 is about 80$ used and is very similar but better.
It's also 160-180W. This is 75.
However the 970 is if memory serves faster than this, a lot faster. More 1650 territory.
@@SianaGearz That is true. But at the price a 1630 will run you as a LP GPU you might as well buy a 6400 XT. Plus you’ll get more driver support… wether or not AMD is the one releasing those drivers is kind of a toss up.
@@SianaGearz 1050 ti is 75w and its still better.
If this was a actual GT 1030 replacement price wise, it'd be fine. But for 150-180? nah man, im good
The new price is irrelevant. The price settles on the right price second hand.
Power consumption should be something we focus on more : my main pc became a laptop recently, and i at least doubled my fps on most titles while now only using a 200W power supply ! This summer might be cooler than usual.
Just try to get 1-2 higher tiers of the GPU and underclock+undervolt. My underclocked 3060Ti at 140 watts is about 50% faster than a 3050 at 130 watts. Underclocked my CPU too, and whole PC uses slightly over 200w in games at most
@@RS-nq8xkMy config pulls about the same, since it's a laptop with a 200W power supply: 140W 3070 laptop
@@Jbrimbelibap Somewhere around/over the Laptop 3070 has unbeatable efficiency (for Nvidia GPUs, excluding workstation ones at least).
Because consumer GeForce cards start to use GDDR6X above the 3070 desktop, and they can use 100+ watts depending on the nunber of memory chips...
On the box it says Turing Shaders, to most people who have been keeping up this means they KNOW the card will probably not support any kind of ray tracing, so for it to not even have DLSS not to mention any RT features, it turns into a very shady marketing ploy.
Yep, it doesn't support DX12U, as opposed to 6400 or 6500 XT.
Man.. That component so near the water in the showcase triggers me so hard lol my "nope" lights were flickering like a whims of a madman! XD
Doesn't make sense to name a xx30 series card a GTX instead of a GT like the others. This only confuses the consumers to get tricked into buying a low end card as a gaming card.
I have the feeling that is part of the reason why they did it
lmao just drop the gt/gtx cuz this isnt useful
GTX has nothing to do with anything like that anymore, it now just means that it's not a ray tracing card. RTX means it is ray tracing.
I’d never touch this thing, especially when the RX 6400 is around $150
If it only pulls 75W max, why does it need a 6-pin? It makes it far less useful for SFF and office PC conversions.
It probably does work without plugging that in.
@@teensuicide9103 I'm doubtful - most cards will tell you to power down and plug the external power in. If it would run without then it leads me to wonder why they'd go through the hassle of adding it at all
I got my sapphire rx 580 pulse for $220 Five years ago. I know it's not a great card but in comparison this is sad.
1650, which was already a bad value, came out for the same MSRP. 1650 super, which is around 70%faster, can be had for around 10 quid more than this... Nvidia just did the release right after the crypto crash for this price? Baaaad decision.
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9:54 Cute kitty alert! I love cute kitties, so thanks for including your kitty in this video. :) 🐱
This would be great if it was a sub 100 dollar card im sure it will get lower eventually but 150 dollars is not worth it honestly at that point just get a 1650 or the amd equivalent if u can find one for msrp that is
one of the worst values for a low end GPU in the last years...even AMD's RX 6400 and 6500 smash this one in value and those are trash value by themselves
Real peak of comedy graphics right here
I find this card genuinely insulting. Only a couple of years ago you would get a 1650 for the same frekkin price, nevermind the fact that performance since then has moved on and we're getting close to Lovelace's release. Even the 1030 was released before a new architecture was released.
All i will say is:
You nailed the description of the 1630 "take notes Nvidia", LoL!
You killed me!
If I do remember with that spec and features Nvidia offer . It seems similar or near to my current Radeon RX6400 low profile GPU. With minor adding features. Since it's new rDNA 2 architecture 6nm process
I'm kinda sure the 7970 (~ R9 280x iirc?) should beat it on lower settings, but generally those older flagships lose more in comparsion with newer technologies at play. From what I recall Tessellation gave even some (back then) new GPUs massive FPS drops.
Honestly, the card would have been good at 60-80€ and amazing with DLSS, it would still be somewhat plausible up to 100€, but it's silly beyond that IMO.
This is basically the modern day GT 520, I expect to see them in all OEMS by next year and in the bargain bin in 5 years (if not rebadged to a GT 1720)
Last time I was this early I ruined my relationship.
I’ve had a 1660s for about a year now and I’m wanting an upgrade, hate to think how this will go down in about a year’s time and 4000 series.
I just keep getting happier and happier with my eye cand-- i mean 1070 Founders
Nvidia definitely needs to up their game if they want to stay in the budget market given that Amd is doing way better and intel desktop gpus are coming
Intel is not looking 2 good at the moment
Intel gpus have got so many issues
I was hoping this to be more of an equivalent to the rx6400 and the 1030, where it’s a single slot, half height that has no additional power. Unfortunately it looks like there’s only half height, 2 slot versions
This is what Gamers Nexus call 'a waste of sand' ...
I think the inclusion of 6 pin connectors for this and other low tier new cards are the companies forcing out possible oem gpu upgrades.
£150 for this GPU is a joke, the performance it offers and features it offers makes it worth £80 tops. You can get an 8GB RX580 right now for £120 or so that comfortably beats the GTX1630 let alone if you tune the RX580s memory timings and OC it, believe it or not, Polaris can be power efficient as long as you are willing to put the work in to tune it up on the vBIOS level. At best, the 1630 is the kind of GPU that belongs in a laptop.
2 years later, AMD Z1 extreme APU in Asus and Lenovo hand helds are playing modern titles. Bought an ally preowned for 450usd on ebay, and ive heard of people getting them for less, and its super impressive. I will say ill use 720p pretty often for better fps
The pricing is a bit out ccl had the card shown today for 192 which is 35 pounds more than a new in box 1050ti and only another 13 quid off buying a 1650 which destroys this and the 1050ti
Putting 2 fans on this card is like mounting a dual tower cooler on a graphical calculator.
Hey, I don't mind a cheaply designed card, as long as it's got a price to match. If it's not saving me money, I'll just buy an earlier card used.
I think Nvidia's current DLSS requires RTX hardware which is why you aren't seeing it on GTX cards. Leave it to AMD saving the day for an Nvida card. Anyways, I think this card was designed when we were still at the height of the gpu shortage and prices were much higher. It was rushed to market but then the marketplace had already changed.
The 1650 was a perfectly fine low-spec/low-power 16 series card that performs decently in games, there is no need for this card to exist
If it's only peaking at the 60W mark, there's still a decent amount of room for overclocking here. Would be interesting to see what thsi card could do with another 10% on the clocks. Though, with the limited memory bus, overlocking the vram at all probably won't help much. Just a thought.
Additionally. Would it be possible to add a game like V-Rising to your test suite? It's got a fair amount of regular players and it's pretty demanding for what it is. Even my 2080ti can't manage to it at 1440p with higher settings without dropping below 60fps.
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
@@adrianafamilymember6427 Where can the power conscious buyer get one?
I'd be accepting that thing if it was called a GT1630 instead of a GTX - though the performance is bad regardless for today's standards
Nvidia's face after launching it: "😂 got em"
I'd love to see something like an RTX 4030.
I plan to build a camper Van with sff gaming setup.
The problem is power consumption of GPUs and monitors.
See, this isn't a GT1030 TDP though. The GT1030 still has the distinct advantage of a 30W TDP, whereas this has the 1050 issue of the "some BPO and some not" options, but in all cases targets that 75W TDP or higher.
Honestly this card is atrocious value even in places where a good used market doesn't exist. It's a slap in the face of consumers and definitely a slap in the face of all of the power efficiency improvements we've made over the years. It would absolutely be doable to make a surprisingly-capable BPO card that would have been excellent value for money and provided a great option for systems without a beefy power supply. Such a shame.
Ironically, Nvidia has just made the RX6400 look like much better value, because that card sits around 1050Ti / 1650 performance, is low profile and BPO, and has the exact same MSRP as the "GTX" 1630, or even lower depending. The EVGA model of this card is 200USD. Are they insane? You can pick up a 6500XT brand new for less money. Absolute fools.
Nvidia's strategy of only enabling DLSS on the high end cards really is backward. DLSS is a feature that is more useful the less powerful your GPU is, but for some reason they disable it on the cards that stand to benefit the most from it.
Glad I saw this video, almost got this for my main rig lol
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If they made any more compromises when designing the 1630, they'd have to have called it the GTX 1615.5
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Definitely makes more sense to have those cards with either low profile, or with no external power connector. Who knows, maybe it would a rival for the wonderful GDDR5 variant of the GT1030 👍
Cracking video again fella. There's a magic to your videos which makes them informative and enjoyable, quite therapeutic 😉
Good video. I just wish you had some CP2077 testing. I have a 1600s series card for the last 2 years (few weeks before the "release" of the RTX 30 series and I am 100% satisfied with it. A GTX1660 Super. AMD should be given praise for what they do with supporting even them where NVIDIA (DLSS) doesn't give a poop.
Nvidia: people's gonna swallow any shit on this shortage times
People: r u fkin kidding me?
So sad since this will most likely be the last GTX card
That is unless a 17 series comes around, which might or might not happen.
@@Foxlum Well, what more performce they can give?
@@takehirolol5962 tier above equivalency only (the historical way Nvidia did cards, though this is getting less and less true overtime), 1730 would be a 1650 in performance.
@@Foxlum That would not even be worth it for future titles...
@@takehirolol5962 That's Nvidia, the 16 series is the biggest mixed bag I've ever seen.
_Almost first._
Thanks for the new video.
Hello from Canada. :)
If it had dlss and new technology then I would understand the price. Not agree with price but understand
I'm almost surprised by how "fine" it works. I mean, I was thinking you'd get some Rage 128 Pro level of rendering, but yet it managed to be almost not too bad, I'd say...
It's the "First" '30-Tier" card to bare the GTX branding
Hadn't noticed until I read your comment. This thing is branded as a GTX? Really? That's some pre-crypto crash product positioning they've got there.
I'm so glad I kept a load of 1080Ti's - this latest glut of cards really are dire.
If I had to ASAP replace my GTX 1070, I'd tolerate my 650ti OC 2GB for long enough to save up for at least an GTX 1650/super over the -GT- GTX 1630. Despite the GT1030 levels of performance it could still be used for video encoding - and my current 1440p screen scales low resolutions well (1280x720 is quite clear, even with my early 2000's PC).
I didn’t think too much of DLSS until I got a 30 series card, it’s a godsend for the lower end cards
It's not even being sold here (The Netherlands). In germany it is listed but not avaible for orders
The 16 series cards are good for beginner pc gamers. I bought the 1650s couple years back, loved it. Still love it. Its a great card.
How much did it cost you BACK THEN tho? How much does it cost used today? Who the hell is gonna buy this piece of... tech in current market?
I don't think people reasonably purchase their hardware based on future resale prices, they buy what is available at their budget at the time.
I also have a 1650, I paid less than retail for it when I got it and agree its a great little card, haven't had any issues playing the games I want.
@@andyshtroymish4997 I think I paid around $300 for my 1650s back in 2020. they go for around 200 used today. decent I think
@@andyshtroymish4997 I spent around the same as the GTX 1630 (think like 230 Canadian) for my 1650 back in December 2019. Had buyers remorse. Then the GPU prices went nuts and this has been one of the best things I've bought.
The 1650 Super, 1660 Super and 1660 Ti were great cards(they had an msrp close to their Pascal predecesors albeit slightly higher)
The GPU shortage appears to be at the end. There are 1660 supers available on eBay for a similar price. If you're on a budget then probably better off gambling on a used card.
Will you listen? TO SOMETHING SPAMMY BUT HOLY IN nature anyways
I wanna bring light to a better laptop GPU the GTX 1660 ti (Mobile of course) it is the most power efficient card on Passmark under power to performance
Glad to see my $40 GTX 660 is still in the same ballpark as cards being released today
660 was an og homie. i absolutely loved the 600 series!
It's market forces, and a two horse race, where the two CEO's are actually related to each other, from the same family. Add to that the trend for Nvidia "fans" to pay whatever was asked, even prices for inferior Nvidia cards were higher than their superior ATI/AMD competition, including paying £1000+ for the original "Titan", and you give the companies the green light to both work together to squeeze every last penny out of the consumers.
Low end cards are not considered by gamers, at least in the big markets, and usually cost from £70-£110, depending on the model. Mid range, where most gamers buy, have historically been between £130-£270 (I'm not counting the GTX970 as a mid range card, which came in at £300). The high end, where very few people buy, was always between £300-£400. These prices were set, inflation adjusted, since the times of the Geforce 2 MX, Geforce 2 GTS and Geforce 2 Ultra. Or the R7 240, R9 270 and R9 290X. For examples...
After the launch of the Titan, and the utter failure of PC gamers to recognize the far superior options AMD managed to create over the best part of an entire decade from judging of sales percentages of AMD/Nvidia counterparts, together with uninformed consumers swallowing hilariously biased reviews and articles from a corrupt tech press for years, we get where we are TODAY.
The Titan was the beginning, but Nvidia did it again with the Titan X, costing a measly £1100 ... only to be beaten by the 980Ti just days after the very last Titan X was bought by morons. The 980Ti coming in at half the price of the Titan X. The GTX780Ti coming in at half the price of the original Titan.
AMD was driven into the arms of the console manufacturers and who can blame them? And they began making much more profit from CPU's around the same time with Ryzen. Nvidia concocted more meaningless speil marketing with "RTX POWER", much like "PhysX Extensions", and their fanatical fanbase bought it "no matter what".
You will have to wait a long time, until every last drop is squeezed and the manufacturers are forced to accpet lower profit margins from a disgruntled consumer base (but good luck with that with India and China now becoming wealthier) or wait for Intel or another 3rd party to join the race. Until then, be happy with your card. Chances are, if you bought it around 4-5 years ago and payed £300 or thereabouts, it will be as powerful as a £300 card is today.
I think my s3 savage4 had a 64-bit memory bus and I think it was considered anemic even back then?
Hey Budget great work on taking a look at this GTX 1630... I currently still use a GT 1030 ddr5 for media use. I thoroughly enjoyed your honest review of this latest Nvidia GPU. I was hoping for new features as well with this card. I was wondering about the 64 bit bus and how many Gigabytes per second it got using DDR6?
Might be wrong but the original intended use for dlss was to offset the performance impact of raytracing with a focus on 4k gaming. Given that a budget card featured here doesn’t have nearly enough power to do either it makes some sense as to why nvidea opted not to put tensor cores in the first place as that would drive the price up significantly. On top of that I’m not sure if this card is even made for gaming it seems more useful to business applications in which you need a bit more power than integrated graphics where you can spend a bit less money to buy an F variant of an Intel cpu and put a bit extra to get a card that can do much better than intel’s integrated graphics while still drawing low amounts of power making tensor cores not useful in that scenario either.
People have been modding FSR 2.0 on games that have DLSS support with some success, as both technologies are based on temporal reconstruction. On other games, you can force global FSR 1.0 using Magpie. Or you can use Nvidia Image Sharpening, for a FSR like experience.
Honestly next you should do a Intel Xeon and show how good they are because with how cheap they are and how many cores they offer it seems like a good option
Another great enjoyable video. Thank you
As somebody who has both a 1650 GDDR6 and an ASUS DUAL 1660 SUPER OC-
Y THO.
I am somebody who very much believes in and recommends the 16 series at the right price. And even IM scratching my head.
I would've killed for this around 2017-18 when I was a teenager trying to play GTA 5 on an HP pre-built with an i3 4130T an HD4400 graphics. 800x600 low-(some)med is as good as it got, and it wasn't exactly 60fps, or even 30 a lot of the time. If I set it to 720p it would get like 15FPS, and 1080p was about 5.
my first pc was an i7 8700 and a 1050 2gb that i got around that time and gta5 always played like crap because i didnt know you could change the graphics, i was getting a horrible 25-30fps stutterfest @1080p i still managed to beat the game though lol
If there will be low profile variants without the need of additional power this could be a decent fit for sff PCs.
To put this in perspective, GTX 1070s sell for less than the 1630s MSRP, allbeit, the GTX 1070 is used and the 1630 is new. However, shopping used at this pricepoint is not a bad idea as long as you're vigilant and use sites like eBay and sellers with good feedback. If the power consumption, size, and shopping used doesn't bother you, shop used.