@@watchanything-c7r When the dealer wont play ball, you can say what you like, they just wont do it. Personally I would have just handed it back to the finance company.
I bought a 308 SW in April. No oil after 8 days. Confirmed pistons were gone. Dealer refused to repair or take back. Fortunately the finance company stepped in and after months I got my money back last week. Lessoned learnt to not touch a Puretech engine again. Now got a Kia Ceed with 4 years left on the warranty.
I had a problem with my current car immediately after purchase as it appeared the workshop prep had not been done at all ( Friday afternoon job ), the sales manager jumped into action, wanted a list of the issues & rough cost to rectify and because they were 70 miles away, just sent me the money to fix them, plus extra for the inconvenience. It wasn't like they knocked me down on the px either because they gave me 12% more than anyone else was offering, so I would happily buy from them again even though it went a bit wrong, because there was a sense of fairness.
I saw a video on the Car UK channel which alleged widespread problems with the piston rings causing high oil consumption. Don't know how common this actually is but it may be worth watching James, and finding out if Warrantywise can duck that one too.
I'd rev that Peugeot up bud, run round the back and see if you can smell burning oil, absolutely renowned for it, even at low miles, problem is new customers got no idea, runs out of oil and blows up, nobody expects it.
Watched another car channel on youtube and the Puretech engines where advised to avoid, nearly has bad as the Ford Ecoboost 1.0 ltr. And another tip was avoid the X type Jags because of a gearbox fault, apparantly if the gear lever moves when you are letting the clutch pedal up its a bearing problem in the gearbox. love the channel by the way. Chris
The Peugeot 2008, i feel like it was a case of not asking enough questions (especially the negative equality) and not looking over paperwork while they were there. They should have also taken the car back with the local Peugeot garage report and kicked up a fuss till things were sorted.
I have 1.2 pure tec (3008) 19 plate Bought brand new shes on 22k now had main dealer drop sump when doing fresh service ,mot . All good no issues , i always av oil changed every yr (5k ish ) think thats way forward regular oil ,filters yearly
I would buy the wee cam belt width gauge and monitor it's degradation like a hawk The belts were supposed to do 120k chopped down to 60k which you the customer get to pay for.
@@anthonybrown4874 I never thought it was that bad, blimey my old Astra G with single point injection and 8 valves had a 60k to 80k interval on the timing belt.😮
@@johnathanpearson3203 We had a series of Vx Zafiras snd for a while the cam belt change interval got halved to 40k think it was tensioner pulleys giving up, at least it was relatively inexpensive its the debris blocking the oil feeds and oil ways that's the big issue besides the £500 plus cost and dropping the sump to vlean the oil pick up.
A lot of people are not interested in the mechanical side of cars or bother to do some research to know which cars to avoid. The first the unfortunate owner finds out about a known problem, is when the fault occurs! This is especially for 'wet belts'. There are people driving around their Ecoboost or Puretech engined cars totally unaware of could happen!The Nissan CVT is known to be have problems, and I think the warranty company is treating it as the 'whole', and not a particular part that hardly fails much.
I wouldn't have taken the car from the Peugeot dealer originally without that service paperwork along with it. I would have walked away. Let alone the fact it is the PureTech wetbelt and wouldn't even of event comtemplated buying anything with that engine as a customer. I thnk the new ones have chains now, hopefully they will prove to be better.
My sister bought a brand new BMW330CI in silver what a car but after a month it knocked when breaking and knocked setting off ,She rang BMW they picked it up at 9 am then brought it back at 4 pm All fixed love And here is your bottle off wine in the boot rolling Around no charge free .
I had the same problem your subscriber had years ago with Mercedes selling me a second hand car and saying it didn’t matter where it was serviced as long as they used Mercedes parts the warranty would be valid. It had an engine problem which they then refused to touch because it had been serviced by a Mercedes specialist ! It was like dealing with a back street garage. I never went near the place again.
going out on a limb here but a bearing is sourced from different manufacturers and will be fitted in quite a few cars of various types So at least they compromised but in a court you may well have won the whole cost ,
Love my 2021 Citroen C4 1.2 155 8 speed Auto. Did a trip down from South Wales to Port Isaac and back so a total of 360 miles I averaged 60mpg. Just ate the miles up.on the M5 and the A30.
"Known fault" is a very loose term (which seemingly is not defined in the wording) and therefore is open for interpretation. At the very least they should be able to provide solid stats on failure rate and motivate their decision based on that. Fully agree - exclusions should be specific and stipulated upfront. Holding thumbs for a positive outcome!
I'm sorry but I have dealt with warranty companies with cars I have purchased, they are not worth the paper they are printed on. Recently purchased a vehicle which developed a faulty suspension top mount within 2 weeks, dealer wiped their hands of it and said you have to claim through Warranty Wise, Warranty Wise came back to me saying they don't cover any form of Mounts ? So assume that includes engine mounts, top mounts, exhaust mounts etc.
I bought a year old van from AC, returned it as the roof was leaking in water, i had it checked out, it had been in an accident, not reported or shown up on cv or vs, when I returned it, they said we didn't have to disclose about the body repairs 😮.
A little tip is just turn down cars with known rubbish engines and auto boxes, cvt, ford one as examples, no puretecs, no eco boost, makes life easier and cheaper bud, plenty of other cars to buy.
How do you approach these warranty companies for the product they offer..? What I’m getting at if you contact by email in writing asking for a warranty to cover all mechanical parts on a “xx Reg WMB with 100k” then they offer something they won’t pay up on, you have the original email to show to Judge Person…🤔
Is there a difference between a manufacturing fault and a design fault, eg the bearing not being made to spec and the bearing being incorrectly specified in that application.
Rings go in those puretechs as well bud, had em smoking and burning oil. Had a 19 plate c3 puretech in and even tho it was OK I had to give it away and blew on it, apparently spark plugs go and drop in the cylinder as well(?)
@@roystonvehicles9129 It's not inherently the reason, but I suspect it's probably the cause of 80+% of modern engines' oil burning issues! All engines for 10 years have had them, low tension rings + extended oil change intervals are a recipe from hell! The rings will gum up and get destroyed even with frequent changes, often, too, ridiculous really
Of all the makes I've had trouble with Peugeot is at the top, bsi problems when changing battery, 1.4, 1.6 petrol engines, I've had to scrap 207,s with ecu failures, bad 1.2 puretech engines, no top gear on auto boxes, tbh I don't really buy Peugeots.
Warranties I looked at mine basically if you hit the rare jackpot that' it's covered they only pay the first 1000 plus I think I have an excess of a few hundred so for me at least a total waste of 590 quid
@@ChopsGarage Surely, under the Consumer Rights Act he could reject the car within 30 days because it was faulty, (brakes pulling), not as advertised regarding the service history and possible cam belt failure shortly.
@@RonSeymour1 he took it away knowing history was not there so that's a no go. Belt had not failed but deteriorated which as we know belts do. Until it failed the car would function as intended so no case there. Brakes pulling might be only one.
@@ChopsGarageThis is exactly why I pull the oil filler caps on puretechs. Visible inspection rubber clearly shed off belt - reject. If belt has fine cracks in it you can buy a tool made by Lazer for 15 quid that measures the belt width. If it fits over then Its fine. But if due by age and or mileage it's not worth it risking it Edit: I just heard you mention the tool I jumped the gun not finished video. Also jesus 1600 quid for a wet belt replacement ? Citroen do fixed price repairs on the timing belts for £550. Does Peugeot not have the same kind of pricing plan ?
Just do your own warranty pot bud, you've had some success with WW but I bet they're in front with what you've paid. I've just got a megane back, needs an injector, I'm just doing it.
@@ChopsGarage I think so. You can then decide if you want to buy a warranty from them, or self warrant. Especially if it's likely that they may not pay out.
Is this a recall item? If it was recall with the manufacturer and the previous owner didn't deal with it I would understand warranty now wanting to. Or at the very list there should be a list of exclusions the warranty company lists, cause it shouldn't be down to some customer service person to determine if something is a frequent enough issue to not count.
@@ChopsGarage anything that's trouble bud tbh just say thanks but no thanks, you don't need to buy everything that's offered to you, back in the day it was OK to have a punt, but stuff so nasty these days you've got to be so, so careful.
what does my head in with dealer/ traders they sell cars with no history or missing history with warranty that warranty be void straight away if something failed
That's mad. So he does a deal based on getting a car with a FSH that has been serviced, it turns out the dealer does not hold up their end of the bargain and then they have the cheek to say that they won't do warranty repairs because it doesn't have the service history that THEY told him it did and he bought the car based on that? Does he not have a case against them??? You certainly wouldn't get that sort of service from Chops!
So he was in negative equity then decided to buy another car. He then had to spend £1600 on that car for a new belt and service and then decided to sell this one trade and bought a Skoda? Guy must have (borrowed) money to burn? Personally I wouldn't touch a car with the Puretech engine with a bargepole.
I sold a car after only 400 miles/couple of months, it was a year old and the dealer damaged the car and there were a series of problems. I lost confidence in the car and the dealer. Lost a fortune but for me the stress and unpleasentness was awful and life is too short. I think this owner had a very bad experience and did similar, the right decision for him also.
Same here. There's actually some models I quite like the look of, but I just can't be bothered dealing with those charlatans and buffoons again. Absolute shower.
My 2017 Peuget 308 SW 1.2 puretech runs like a dream. Annual main dealer service, correct oil, belt after 7 years. Belt kit and service less than 500 quid at Peugeot
I've not heard good things about the pure tec engines. Apparently, it has a wet belt and the belt breaks up over time and bits of the belt blocks oil from getting around the engine and destroys it.
Great get out clause, applies to nearly every car, vws burning oil, corsa chains, insignia oil pick ups, ecoboost, puretech, absolutely every make has a know fault these days, I've not done 3rd party warranties for years, all it does is cause bad feeling when they don't pay up and you end up paying, I just sort it if someone comes back, just doing an injector now, 220 for injector and that will sort it. If that had gone to another garage they'd have been quoting 4 new injectors, say 1600 all in, warranty wouldn't pay and I'd be on the hook, instead I get the car back in and sort it.
Not a fan of the puretech in any form my youngest bought against my advice a 308 nice gt spec good price but at pick up i finally got to inspect the service history and i didnt like the look of the cam belt they wouldnt do it for him as said not enough profit in the deal after the prep it had the sump off recall why they didnt pick up on the poor cam belt condition is beyond me. Son still wanted the car so took it got s new cam belt fitted at £500 plus parts sump off again as garage wanted to be sure the oil pick up was clear as the cam belt was shot. The cars been ok a leaking shock done for the next mot and the fuel pipe to the pump on top of the engine came adrift resulting in a breakdown but s relatively quick fix part was pricy but modern cars tend to have pricy parts. Roll on a couple of months the cars broken down with a misfire not electrical issue ruled out swapped injectors about advice given enfgine swsp its probably a piston ring gone just hope thst warranty we got with the car is worth the paper its written on, if its a new motor required then no foubt there will be a payment to be made on s betterment basis ie new engine in old car we shall see i have an idea its not worth doing on a £5-6k car. So for us no more puretech more goes wrong than just cam belts.
Its a bit a nuisance really, my drives an automatic, so now searching for newer car, I've now got to avoid a cvt then? Even one of the more reliable brands Suzuki are mostly cvt now. Therefore buying even a fairly late ish one without manufacturers warranty is not worth the risk. I always thought that Warrantwise were among the better ines😂
Always check before signing and see what has been done or should of been done. Main dealers at present are the worst ones to deal with at present. Will never use my Vauxhall main dealer for a car.
Why would you even continue collecting the car after they said they misplaced the history 🥴. I went with a friend to Grimsby a 5 hour each way trip. We got there and a 4 year old car sold as full history only had 1 service. We walked away and drove back as you’ll always have warranty issues. Simple. Don’t get bullied into buying it
Normal warranty claptrap ..warranty wise or warranty direct all do it....well look a car has a engine and gear box ... not covered ...may as well just put that in the list
I had a crossland 1.2 puretech 71 plate cam belt full of cracks dealership said it’s bad needs changing they had it in them said can’t do it under warranty I paid then complained to Vauxhall who then refunded me ,but over all it was a terrible car I had it 3 months then dropped it like a hot potato not 3 years old and it drove like it was 20 years old awful
Personally I think you get preferential treatment from WW thanks to your channel James. If I was in that position I would have written a letter before action then small claims for the whole lot - see what a judge would say to their ridiculous terms.
Just goes to show that even top level car warranty policies aren't worth the paper they are written on James. The £2500 paid is still a £2000 loss for you.
I've had 2 cars with puretech engines and 2 with Ecoboosts. Both engines were excellent. Usually the moaners "know all, know nowt" brigade have never had them.
They haven't had them because they know not to! Fords ecoboost even made it on the BBC one show, now you won't get on there with just a "few" owner problems. They are dog shit engines. That's great you haven't had any problems and if buying from new I'd have some confidence, no way would I trust a second hand one....
Ref Peugeot dealer. They are not known as "main stealers" for nothing. I've only found 1 honda dealer to be ok in many years of owning cars. Better to try and find a good independant
This is exactly why I hate all insurance companies, they are all gobshites who will wriggle out of paying on any technicality every time. What's the point of it if you are not fully covered?
Get back to manufactures see if it’s known fault which it isn’t get paperwork stating that see if warranty people want to get in a court case with them don’t settle for half the money no matter how they treated you in the past
WW have shot themselves in the foot bud, I bet every car dealer in the country watches you, they'll all be reluctant to do WW warranty now, if they'd have paid you full money, what a good advertsment for them, for the sake of 2k I bet it costs them dear, also customers you've got a big following, once they knew it was you they should have settled in full.
@@ChopsGarage it's basically a ponzi scheme really bud, just giving you your own money back, but making sure they're in front, if you'd have put your warranty money into gold over this last few years you'd have done 25% profit, or put it into shares, anything rather than warranty companies.
Way to go Peugeot garage, bum a good customer you'll never see again. And he'll tell everyone of his mates & the story will get passed on hoe dodgy you are - great business model, well worth it 🤦
Warranty companies are complete BS. Literally designed to find as many ways to avoid satisfying their customers as possible.
i dont understand why did he not tell the dealer he brought it from that he as 6 month consumer rights act if the car was less then 6 months
@@watchanything-c7r When the dealer wont play ball, you can say what you like, they just wont do it. Personally I would have just handed it back to the finance company.
agreed , same as insurance , any excuse not to pay [ many years in motor trade] !
You know it.
As I have said previously, you look after your customers, and they will promote you to friends and family. Have a great weekend James.
I bought a 308 SW in April. No oil after 8 days. Confirmed pistons were gone. Dealer refused to repair or take back. Fortunately the finance company stepped in and after months I got my money back last week. Lessoned learnt to not touch a Puretech engine again. Now got a Kia Ceed with 4 years left on the warranty.
At least they eventually gave you a contribution towards repair costs but you did have a valid point.
Yes better than nothing
I had a problem with my current car immediately after purchase as it appeared the workshop prep had not been done at all ( Friday afternoon job ), the sales manager jumped into action, wanted a list of the issues & rough cost to rectify and because they were 70 miles away, just sent me the money to fix them, plus extra for the inconvenience.
It wasn't like they knocked me down on the px either because they gave me 12% more than anyone else was offering, so I would happily buy from them again even though it went a bit wrong, because there was a sense of fairness.
Great stuff
@@ChopsGarage The sales manager reminded me a bit of you!
Puretech engine in the Peugeot well known in the trade as Peugeot Pureshite.
Good luck getting a warranty that covers the Puretech engine in the Peugeout!
? Why it's had new belt
@@ChopsGarage Probably because of their reputation in the trade, and failure rate. They have a " cop-out" in the wording you showed in the video.
I saw a video on the Car UK channel which alleged widespread problems with the piston rings causing high oil consumption. Don't know how common this actually is but it may be worth watching James, and finding out if Warrantywise can duck that one too.
I'd rev that Peugeot up bud, run round the back and see if you can smell burning oil, absolutely renowned for it, even at low miles, problem is new customers got no idea, runs out of oil and blows up, nobody expects it.
PuraBoom
Watched another car channel on youtube and the Puretech engines where advised to avoid, nearly has bad as the Ford Ecoboost 1.0 ltr. And another tip was avoid the X type Jags because of a gearbox fault, apparantly if the gear lever moves when you are letting the clutch pedal up its a bearing problem in the gearbox. love the channel by the way. Chris
The Peugeot 2008, i feel like it was a case of not asking enough questions (especially the negative equality) and not looking over paperwork while they were there. They should have also taken the car back with the local Peugeot garage report and kicked up a fuss till things were sorted.
I have 1.2 pure tec (3008) 19 plate
Bought brand new shes on 22k now had main dealer drop sump when doing fresh service ,mot . All good no issues , i always av oil changed every yr (5k ish ) think thats way forward regular oil ,filters yearly
You do not have any major problems, because your milage is very, very low. At this milage all cars are doing well.
I would buy the wee cam belt width gauge and monitor it's degradation like a hawk
The belts were supposed to do 120k chopped down to 60k which you the customer get to pay for.
@@anthonybrown4874 I never thought it was that bad, blimey my old Astra G with single point injection and 8 valves had a 60k to 80k interval on the timing belt.😮
@@johnathanpearson3203 We had a series of Vx Zafiras snd for a while the cam belt change interval got halved to 40k think it was tensioner pulleys giving up, at least it was relatively inexpensive its the debris blocking the oil feeds and oil ways that's the big issue besides the £500 plus cost and dropping the sump to vlean the oil pick up.
Pure Tech engines built before 2020 are seriously bad news and its not just the wet belt!
Sealey part number VSE5094 is a checking tool for the PSA timing belt
A lot of people are not interested in the mechanical side of cars or bother to do some research to know which cars to avoid. The first the unfortunate owner finds out about a known problem, is when the fault occurs! This is especially for 'wet belts'. There are people driving around their Ecoboost or Puretech engined cars totally unaware of could happen!The Nissan CVT is known to be have problems, and I think the warranty company is treating it as the 'whole', and not a particular part that hardly fails much.
I wouldn't have taken the car from the Peugeot dealer originally without that service paperwork along with it. I would have walked away. Let alone the fact it is the PureTech wetbelt and wouldn't even of event comtemplated buying anything with that engine as a customer. I thnk the new ones have chains now, hopefully they will prove to be better.
As long as it's a decent thickness chain
My sister bought a brand new BMW330CI in silver what a car but after a month it knocked when breaking and knocked setting off ,She rang BMW they picked it up at 9 am then brought it back at 4 pm All fixed love And here is your bottle off wine in the boot rolling Around no charge free .
Lol!!!
At least you got something back but this is the very reason we do our own warranty & don't sell Nissan CVTs. Worth the effort though. Nice one.
Cheers
I had the same problem your subscriber had years ago with Mercedes selling me a second hand car and saying it didn’t matter where it was serviced as long as they used Mercedes parts the warranty would be valid. It had an engine problem which they then refused to touch because it had been serviced by a Mercedes specialist ! It was like dealing with a back street garage. I never went near the place again.
Oh dear
going out on a limb here but a bearing is sourced from different manufacturers and will be fitted in quite a few cars of various types So at least they compromised but in a court you may well have won the whole cost ,
Love my 2021 Citroen C4 1.2 155 8 speed Auto. Did a trip down from South Wales to Port Isaac and back so a total of 360 miles I averaged 60mpg. Just ate the miles up.on the M5 and the A30.
"Known fault" is a very loose term (which seemingly is not defined in the wording) and therefore is open for interpretation. At the very least they should be able to provide solid stats on failure rate and motivate their decision based on that. Fully agree - exclusions should be specific and stipulated upfront. Holding thumbs for a positive outcome!
Totally agree , give me the fault and evidence it's well known in industry
I'm sorry but I have dealt with warranty companies with cars I have purchased, they are not worth the paper they are printed on. Recently purchased a vehicle which developed a faulty suspension top mount within 2 weeks, dealer wiped their hands of it and said you have to claim through Warranty Wise, Warranty Wise came back to me saying they don't cover any form of Mounts ? So assume that includes engine mounts, top mounts, exhaust mounts etc.
Well I'd say depends on the age and miles of car but as you can see here I'm better off having had it than not
Contact trading standards.
Top mounts , not the dearest parts on a car...sometimes just fix and forget about it ...not worth the calls and stress
Problem there when bought car no doubt
I bought a year old van from AC, returned it as the roof was leaking in water, i had it checked out, it had been in an accident, not reported or shown up on cv or vs, when I returned it, they said we didn't have to disclose about the body repairs 😮.
No they don't. Because likelihood is anything you buy has had body repair and much of it a dealer may not be aware of themselves
@ChopsGarage they did the repair though.
@@MrRedfreds yes but still not required to notify
Nissan wouldn’t ever admit it was a known fault…keep at em…☮️
Funny how what you are covered for is 1 paragraph & then what is excluded is about 4 pages! Typical of any insurance product.
Lol
A little tip is just turn down cars with known rubbish engines and auto boxes, cvt, ford one as examples, no puretecs, no eco boost, makes life easier and cheaper bud, plenty of other cars to buy.
💯
How do you approach these warranty companies for the product they offer..? What I’m getting at if you contact by email in writing asking for a warranty to cover all mechanical parts on a “xx Reg WMB with 100k” then they offer something they won’t pay up on, you have the original email to show to Judge Person…🤔
Is there a difference between a manufacturing fault and a design fault, eg the bearing not being made to spec and the bearing being incorrectly specified in that application.
Somehow I instinctively *knew* he’d end up still paying that negative equity. Sickening.
Rings go in those puretechs as well bud, had em smoking and burning oil. Had a 19 plate c3 puretech in and even tho it was OK I had to give it away and blew on it, apparently spark plugs go and drop in the cylinder as well(?)
Classic wonderful thing that is low tension piston rings! 0.1mpg saving to kill the engine 100+k early..........
@@kaptinkeiff great bud, I knew rings went, but didn't know why.
@@roystonvehicles9129 It's not inherently the reason, but I suspect it's probably the cause of 80+% of modern engines' oil burning issues! All engines for 10 years have had them, low tension rings + extended oil change intervals are a recipe from hell! The rings will gum up and get destroyed even with frequent changes, often, too, ridiculous really
@@kaptinkeiff yes bud, I've re rung a few vw, seems just the oil rings, still got factory compression, but burning oil like Billy O.
Of all the makes I've had trouble with Peugeot is at the top, bsi problems when changing battery, 1.4, 1.6 petrol engines, I've had to scrap 207,s with ecu failures, bad 1.2 puretech engines, no top gear on auto boxes, tbh I don't really buy Peugeots.
Warranties I looked at mine basically if you hit the rare jackpot that' it's covered they only pay the first 1000 plus I think I have an excess of a few hundred so for me at least a total waste of 590 quid
What a great looking car 😊.
Am I missing something, why did he not reject the car?
Not sure he had a basis to
@@ChopsGarage Surely, under the Consumer Rights Act he could reject the car within 30 days because it was faulty, (brakes pulling), not as advertised regarding the service history and possible cam belt failure shortly.
@@RonSeymour1 he took it away knowing history was not there so that's a no go. Belt had not failed but deteriorated which as we know belts do. Until it failed the car would function as intended so no case there. Brakes pulling might be only one.
@@ChopsGarageThis is exactly why I pull the oil filler caps on puretechs. Visible inspection rubber clearly shed off belt - reject.
If belt has fine cracks in it you can buy a tool made by Lazer for 15 quid that measures the belt width. If it fits over then Its fine.
But if due by age and or mileage it's not worth it risking it
Edit: I just heard you mention the tool I jumped the gun not finished video. Also jesus 1600 quid for a wet belt replacement ? Citroen do fixed price repairs on the timing belts for £550. Does Peugeot not have the same kind of pricing plan ?
Just do your own warranty pot bud, you've had some success with WW but I bet they're in front with what you've paid. I've just got a megane back, needs an injector, I'm just doing it.
Agree with you. They should tell you which vehicles are known to have inherent design flaws... before you buy the warranty
Seems fair eh
@@ChopsGarage I think so. You can then decide if you want to buy a warranty from them, or self warrant. Especially if it's likely that they may not pay out.
If the cambelt was failing it needed more than just a new cambelt , all the bits of it are round the oil system
No it had not failed but it had swelled according to measurement. This is step before break up
@@ChopsGarage when it’s swelling it’s falling to bits , done loads we run a fleet of the hateful things
Is this a recall item? If it was recall with the manufacturer and the previous owner didn't deal with it I would understand warranty now wanting to. Or at the very list there should be a list of exclusions the warranty company lists, cause it shouldn't be down to some customer service person to determine if something is a frequent enough issue to not count.
Another good video James 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏
Cheers
Great video bud, 2.5k is a result bud, still well out of pocket tho, don't buy anymore cvt,s.
Defo not
@@ChopsGarage anything that's trouble bud tbh just say thanks but no thanks, you don't need to buy everything that's offered to you, back in the day it was OK to have a punt, but stuff so nasty these days you've got to be so, so careful.
what does my head in with dealer/ traders they sell cars with no history or missing history with warranty that warranty be void straight away if something failed
Well not wholly true , only items affected by servicing would be excluded. If your dpf. Egr. Rad, spring. Shock , ECU , etc etc went still be covered
Bit confused, if is it is a known manufacturing fault shouldn't it have had a recall at some time?
Pure tecs drive well, that wet belt is a time bomb. We had issues with one. Never again.
Shouldnt have mentioned about a compromise with the warranty company, they see this vid and they'll use it, if it turns out they have got to cover it.
With warranty company’s are you in front or behind with moneys paid?
I'd say this puts me in front
That's mad. So he does a deal based on getting a car with a FSH that has been serviced, it turns out the dealer does not hold up their end of the bargain and then they have the cheek to say that they won't do warranty repairs because it doesn't have the service history that THEY told him it did and he bought the car based on that? Does he not have a case against them???
You certainly wouldn't get that sort of service from Chops!
You are truly killing it. Can’t wait for the next drop!
Good bot.
So he was in negative equity then decided to buy another car. He then had to spend £1600 on that car for a new belt and service and then decided to sell this one trade and bought a Skoda? Guy must have (borrowed) money to burn?
Personally I wouldn't touch a car with the Puretech engine with a bargepole.
Agreed, let's hope it's OK for James and it's not just another story, must be a reason to go skoda.
Same as wet belt engines avoid
@@johnfitton3716 I don't buy em bud, why risk it?
I sold a car after only 400 miles/couple of months, it was a year old and the dealer damaged the car and there were a series of problems. I lost confidence in the car and the dealer. Lost a fortune but for me the stress and unpleasentness was awful and life is too short. I think this owner had a very bad experience and did similar, the right decision for him also.
Pure Tech 1.2 😫
Cam Belt + Excessive Oil consumption
= Avoid
Shame, nice car in many ways
Yes go well
Arnold Clark?
If Peugeot dealers were the only car sellers in the world, I'd buy a bike!! Twice stung with their "service" and "warranty" so now they can 🖕
Same here. There's actually some models I quite like the look of, but I just can't be bothered dealing with those charlatans and buffoons again. Absolute shower.
Wonderful advertising for that dealership 😊
Which one
@@ChopsGarage the one that screwed your customer over. SM will tell many more who to avoid.
Guy came from London on the train last week, picked him up at Wakefield, cost 41 quid, maybe 300 was a bit generous bud?
My old dentist used to run the Alfa's owners club
My 2017 Peuget 308 SW 1.2 puretech runs like a dream. Annual main dealer service, correct oil, belt after 7 years. Belt kit and service less than 500 quid at Peugeot
I've not heard good things about the pure tec engines. Apparently, it has a wet belt and the belt breaks up over time and bits of the belt blocks oil from getting around the engine and destroys it.
He said it had just been changed at a cost of £1600
Just a matter of time it’s bad again. Not reliable at all.
Great get out clause, applies to nearly every car, vws burning oil, corsa chains, insignia oil pick ups, ecoboost, puretech, absolutely every make has a know fault these days, I've not done 3rd party warranties for years, all it does is cause bad feeling when they don't pay up and you end up paying, I just sort it if someone comes back, just doing an injector now, 220 for injector and that will sort it. If that had gone to another garage they'd have been quoting 4 new injectors, say 1600 all in, warranty wouldn't pay and I'd be on the hook, instead I get the car back in and sort it.
Not a fan of the puretech in any form my youngest bought against my advice a 308 nice gt spec good price but at pick up i finally got to inspect the service history and i didnt like the look of the cam belt they wouldnt do it for him as said not enough profit in the deal after the prep it had the sump off recall why they didnt pick up on the poor cam belt condition is beyond me.
Son still wanted the car so took it got s new cam belt fitted at £500 plus parts sump off again as garage wanted to be sure the oil pick up was clear as the cam belt was shot.
The cars been ok a leaking shock done for the next mot and the fuel pipe to the pump on top of the engine came adrift resulting in a breakdown but s relatively quick fix part was pricy but modern cars tend to have pricy parts.
Roll on a couple of months the cars broken down with a misfire not electrical issue ruled out swapped injectors about advice given enfgine swsp its probably a piston ring gone just hope thst warranty we got with the car is worth the paper its written on, if its a new motor required then no foubt there will be a payment to be made on s betterment basis ie new engine in old car we shall see i have an idea its not worth doing on a £5-6k car.
So for us no more puretech more goes wrong than just cam belts.
Stoneacre from the plate.
Them warranties ain't worth shit
Well worth 2.5k in this case
Not worth the paper there written on@@ChopsGarage
Great content, 👍
when i sold cars for a loving the warranty wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.
Nice 👍
Reupload?
Its a bit a nuisance really, my drives an automatic, so now searching for newer car, I've now got to avoid a cvt then?
Even one of the more reliable brands Suzuki are mostly cvt now. Therefore buying even a fairly late ish one without manufacturers warranty is not worth the risk. I always thought that Warrantwise were among the better ines😂
I think they are
What is it with Peugeot not getting the eye line comfortable between the steering wheel and the clocks.....its god awful.
Always check before signing and see what has been done or should of been done. Main dealers at present are the worst ones to deal with at present. Will never use my Vauxhall main dealer for a car.
Why would you even continue collecting the car after they said they misplaced the history 🥴. I went with a friend to Grimsby a 5 hour each way trip. We got there and a 4 year old car sold as full history only had 1 service. We walked away and drove back as you’ll always have warranty issues. Simple. Don’t get bullied into buying it
All insurance, car,home, life, etc, are a rip-off. The insurance company will do anything it can NOT to pay out on a claim.
That laptop needs a clean!
Should have looked at the service history before buying the car.
Why didn’t the chap return the car as the car wasn’t as described? Trading standards would have a field day because it didn’t meet consumer rights.
Well not if he was told at pick up but still took it away
@@ChopsGarageI seem to remember you saying a car could be returned to the dealer for any reason subject to a certain timescale?
Normal warranty claptrap ..warranty wise or warranty direct all do it....well look a car has a engine and gear box ... not covered ...may as well just put that in the list
To certain extent
Good video, but please get a dead cat for the microphone
Notice the clause with WW that a cars got to be in the customers name bud on the v5, just sayin.....
Lol , well can't claim within 30 days anyhow mate
@@ChopsGarageyes bud, ha, ha.
@@ChopsGarageI had 3 complaints on Saturday bud, gave me a right headache, I was totally depressed.
The puretech engines seem to be gaining on the ecoboom for the premature failure award
Found the last five minutes then. 👍
I had a crossland 1.2 puretech 71 plate cam belt full of cracks dealership said it’s bad needs changing they had it in them said can’t do it under warranty I paid then complained to Vauxhall who then refunded me ,but over all it was a terrible car I had it 3 months then dropped it like a hot potato not 3 years old and it drove like it was 20 years old awful
Warranty wise are scammers, virtually everything is excluded.
Personally I think you get preferential treatment from WW thanks to your channel James. If I was in that position I would have written a letter before action then small claims for the whole lot - see what a judge would say to their ridiculous terms.
Not my channel mate but my spend. They totally up my spend on policies and see if they pay out they are still in profit
@@ChopsGarage Ah I see - makes sense for them but wouldn't apply to a private punter
Should of gone to Peugeot uk and kicked off about it
"A proper full blown chopper"
That's not very nice 🤣
Why?
Just goes to show that even top level car warranty policies aren't worth the paper they are written on James. The £2500 paid is still a £2000 loss for you.
True plus transport
1600 belt and brakes 😮😮😮
thats dealer price for you i know someone where she went to ford and got charged £300 to fit a new battery on a ford kuga
And then sell it???
@@bigdude8470 people do that. Get stung with a car and then lose faith in it. Even though they've just had the hugely expensive problem fixed.
I've had 2 cars with puretech engines and 2 with Ecoboosts. Both engines were excellent. Usually the moaners "know all, know nowt" brigade have never had them.
Yep same thing. Good care and frequent use
Agree people buy these cars then abuse them then complain when they go wrong
They haven't had them because they know not to! Fords ecoboost even made it on the BBC one show, now you won't get on there with just a "few" owner problems. They are dog shit engines. That's great you haven't had any problems and if buying from new I'd have some confidence, no way would I trust a second hand one....
Ref Peugeot dealer. They are not known as "main stealers" for nothing. I've only found 1 honda dealer to be ok in many years of owning cars. Better to try and find a good independant
30,000 miles and needs new belt no way should last at least 90,000 ,is a wet belt?
Yep
This is exactly why I hate all insurance companies, they are all gobshites who will wriggle out of paying on any technicality every time. What's the point of it if you are not fully covered?
Get back to manufactures see if it’s known fault which it isn’t get paperwork stating that see if warranty people want to get in a court case with them don’t settle for half the money no matter how they treated you in the past
Good call
Peugeot stealer behaviour a disgrace. Should have rejected the car for breach of contract.
WW have shot themselves in the foot bud, I bet every car dealer in the country watches you, they'll all be reluctant to do WW warranty now, if they'd have paid you full money, what a good advertsment for them, for the sake of 2k I bet it costs them dear, also customers you've got a big following, once they knew it was you they should have settled in full.
That was my thoughts I mean these companies pay creators £600 to a grand a video for ads so this seemed bargain for good advert
@@ChopsGarage don't cross big James, eh mate!
@@ChopsGarage it's basically a ponzi scheme really bud, just giving you your own money back, but making sure they're in front, if you'd have put your warranty money into gold over this last few years you'd have done 25% profit, or put it into shares, anything rather than warranty companies.
Tits n bits 😂😂😂.. another cracking vid ❤
Cheers
All car faults are defects , if it was know there would have been a recall.
Some things are expected to wear out
Way to go Peugeot garage, bum a good customer you'll never see again. And he'll tell everyone of his mates & the story will get passed on hoe dodgy you are - great business model, well worth it 🤦
Warranty wise taking the absolute mic, used them in the past. Pointless paper waste.
You might feel better going in at low p ex bids bud, but you might not sell anything, so ignore me, ha, ha.
Lol
Why do people buy these!? 38k? Utter 💩
A nightmare for you
'Train station' is an American term,we call them railway stations.
He’s back on the train laughing his bollox off
Ok
Puretech awful wet belt