Artificial Sweeteners: Which Are Deadly, Which Are Healthy? | Dr. Neal Barnard Live Q&A
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- A zero-calorie sweetener popular with millions following a keto diet could prove deadly.
Dr. Neal Barnard discusses erythritol and research showing that the cost of saving calories could be your life. He shares research tying the artificial sweetener to increased risk for heart attacks, strokes, and even death when he joins "The Weight Loss Champion" Chuck Carroll on The Exam Room LIVE.
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- Which sweeteners are safe?
- Are all artificial sweeteners dangerous?
- Nitrite-free meat: Is it healthy?
- Cheat days and weight loss
- SPAM festival in Hawaii
- And more!
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I had a diet soda addiction for years. When I went plant based I switched to Zevia believing it’s a healthier alternative. I loved the stuff but kept hearing about no calories sweeteners not being good for health/weight. I finally kicked the habit and the biggest change I’ve noticed is that I no longer crave something sweet. It’s a huge win! Drinking only water now. 💦
There is no such thing as a food "addiction". It is ridiculous to compare eating foods and alcohol(assuming its not a "food"), opioids, nicotine, and narcotics.
@@donwinston people can get "addicted to anything. You are misinformed if you believe otherwise...
@@donwinston haha WHOAAA....that could not be farther from the truth! Nearly everyone in the US is addicted to factory-made salt-fat-sugar concoctions, we've _mistaken as_ food.
@@MrZacharykgwin You are full of it. It is a misuse of the term "addiction".
@@peter5.056 Over consuming super palatable foods is not the same thing as "addiction". All you are doing is removing people's responsibility for their behavior.
My partner was hospitalized a couple years ago and the hospital's idea of a vegan meal was iceberg lettuce and ranch dressing (regular, so not vegan). When he begged for something other than lettuce, they gave him a cup of veg broth. If I hadn't brought him food from home he would have barely eaten. It was terrible.
That's aweful. I am sorry. Hospitals really need to get on board adding more vegetables and dark leafy greens.
How terrible! 😞 Hope he's better now.🥦 💗
I was fired from my job as a hospital dietitian, because I was being "belligerent" about the grease-laden crap they were feeding the patients.
@@peter5.056 That's terrible! They need to wake up from their comas!
Same experience, and hospital veggie broth is loaded with MSG😳 SMH. I still drank it, but I get bad headaches from that neurotoxin.
13:23 Maltodextrin has a higher glycemic index (GI) value than regular table sugar, which defeats the purpose of a sugar substitute! So when I shop for stevia, allulose, or monkfruit products, I make sure to read the ingredients to make sure they don’t contain maltodextrin before purchasing.
I grew up with severe seasonal allergies until I went strictly plant based...Now whenever I eat or consume anything with maltodextrin, it produces the SAME exact seasonal allergy symptoms in me(during the spring season and summer). I pinpointed it to the products I consumed that had high amounts of maltodextrin. After a bit of research, I discovered that it was a HUGE inflammatory ingredient to the mucous lining and just overall the whole body, as well as the gut. I try to avoid it, but not always able to. What I do to flush it out of the system(works also on other toxic sweeteners) is drinking several tablespoons of Apple cider vinegar with water. It works amazingly well and is healing to the gut and whole body.
I don't know if I should be shocked or not that Dr. Bernard doesn't know much about most of these toxic sweeteners ingredients🤔, but maybe because he is a cardiologist and mostly focuses on heart health. I agree with most of his advice, especially diet.
@@Runner8617 Man that is scary! So sorry that happens. I will have to pay better attention to what I buy to be sure it contain it. I'm wondering if activated charcoal would help next time you accidentally ingest some.
Low calorie sweeteners like Splenda that have maltodextrin do not raise your blood sugar levels. They are perfectly healthy for diabetics to use. Non diabetics don't need to care if their blood sugars rise.
This only matters if you are already diabetic. If you are healthy and fit consuming any kind of sugar is not going to give you diabetes unless you eat too many CALORIES. All calorie dense foods will make you fat, not just sugar.
I'm currently using raisins to sweeten my home made soy milk. I just put a handful on top of the beans inside my Soyabella. Makes for a nice, subtly sweet drink.
will dates work as well, I got a joyoung soy milk machine that gott a cleaning and sterile program. do you put a pinch of salt with the soy beans when you make the milk
@@leonieduplessis4467 ... I don't see why not... maybe chopped into smaller pieces.
I try my best to steer clear of sweeteners including maltodextrin, erythritol, aspartame, but there are some I cannot escape like saccharin and dextrose. Saccharin is in my mouthwash and dextrose tends to be in some of my fave food products. I would honestly love to see artificial sweeteners ditched and no longer used in certain products suitable for vegan/plant based eaters.
This guy is the best! I've watched so many different doctors that give health information and none of them work! However everything this guy says literally works everytime
In my opinion, sugar alcohols like erythritol and xylitol are great for mouthwash, toothpaste, and tiny breath mints but should NOT be consumed in large quantities. I don't trust these sugar substitutes, because human biology didn't evolve to properly metabolize them.
Some healthier sugar substitutes:
1. Unsweetened apple sauce: This provides sweetness. As an added bonus, this replaces the butter and eggs for baking.
2. More sensitive taste buds: If you go long enough without sweets (sugary or with artificial sweeteners), your taste buds will become more sensitive. Better yet, you may find that some of the sweet things you liked in the past will be too sweet for you, and this will discourage you from eating them again.
not good for our humans
@@leonieduplessis4467 Erythritol is a naturally occurring substance in your body.
You do know all humans make their own endogenous erythritol right?
@@larryc1616 Yes, but the body makes only very small amounts of erythritol.
@Jason Hsu don't let 1 low quality study speak for erythritol or sugar alcohols. Non-peer reviewed + observational + 8 test subjects = JUNK study. It must be peer reviewed, double blind, 100's/1000's of test subjects and study must be replicated by others. I will continue using stevia, monk fruit, xylitol, allulose, raw honey and liquid dates
Thank you very much for the great job you’re doing interviewing these wonderful physicians
Nice interview. I'm glad I never consumed fake sugars I kept eating refined sugar on a HCLF diet. As a result my health has been excellent for the last 13 years.
Are you saying that store bought sugar let you live healthy?
@@heni63 Check the research of Walter Kempner back in the 1950's. He cured a whole lot of people with a white rice, fruit juice and plain table sugar diet. Sugar isn't as bad as it's made out to be, just avoid ultra processed crap.
Sugar is not the devil it’s made out to be. Fruit is better, sugar still ok
Thank you for another amazing instalment of health updates and inspiration!
I started having alulose after watching a post about how it can help block fructose absorption. What do you think about alulose? Thank you!
LOVE YOUR SHOW, LOTSA USEFUL SENSIBLE INFO & LOVE DR. BARNARD'S HUMOUR.
The thinking that we need animal products especially for protein is still very widespread here in Germany. It’s really a shame!
Not everyone is going, or is able, to follow a vegan WOE. Some people can't consume Soy proteins... Seitan is wheat gluten and those with gluten allergies/sensitivities can't consume wheat products. Beans/legumes have protein, however, one would have to eat quite a bit of them in order to get enough protein... if losing weight is a priority to improve health markers like prediabetes/T2 diabetes & improving insulin resistance veganism unfortunately, does not work for everyone.
@@jazthing1 All vegetables and fruits have proteins, there is no need at all to consume soy or seitan, it's even a good idea to limit legume consumption to every other day because even then we would get too much protein (unless you work out really much). Human breastmilk has less than 3% protein, why do you think this is? Check out dr. J. mcDougall to learn more.
Sent this to my dad!!!🙏
I notice that the Orgain protein powder we put in our smoothies has erythotol in it. We’ve been vegans for 10 years. Do you think we should stop using this product. I did notice erythotol is made in China. Who’d want to eat a product made in China.
John, the following are some side effects of consuming protein powders you must know:
-- They can cause acne. Gastrointestinal problems can cause inflammation. ...
-- Unbalanced nutrient composition. ...
-- They destabilize gut microbiota. ...
-- They are toxic. ...
-- They can increase insulin levels.
It looked to me like the new studies on erythritol were reverse causation. I wish this would have focused a little bit more on whether a little bit is OK. There was a lot of going into not eating excessive sugar etc. However, if you're not trying to lose weight, and you're already whole food plant based, I was wondering if I could still have my little bit of erythritol all once in a while. I don't think we got that answer.
Look up Nutrition Made Simple on here. That doc goes into the actual findings of the study and what can and cannot be concluded from it.
You get the answer, you should not use sweeteners because they cause sweets cravings, So dump sweeteners permamently.
Thank you, Dr. Barnard.
As always, thank you for the great information!!!
Like others in this group, I want to know if Alluose is in the same dangerous category as Erythitol. Thank you for this info.
No, Erythritol is not in the same category as Allulose. Allulose is not a sugar alcohol. Allulose naturally occurs in a few foods. However, commercial allulose is made by converting fructose, which is found in corn and other plants, to allulose.
I use stevia, please reply..
He did mention Stevia and said that it wasn’t harmful. I like to use Stevia too.
Hi from California. I don't add any sweetners. I strictly eat whole foods with no processed or packaged foods except tofu.
Raw honey and liquid dates are great whole foods sweeteners.
@@larryc1616 Please don't use honey, bees from the industry crowd out the other kinds of bees and pollinating insects driving them to extinction. Aside from that, it's cruel to take their honey and replace it with sugar water.
XYLITOL is great for teeth:
It balances the pH of saliva in mouth and protects both teeth & gums
Slso, if ingested, it keeps mosquitos away
In my head...I have put artificial and sugar and corn syrup garbage foods in the same class as fentanyl. I do not want even a tiny bit of any of them poisons in me.
abstinence is often the best policy. if you don't use it, you won't miss it;)
What about date powder tosweeten cake
Hola, exam Room fellows, here the jam / marmalade I make: same or better teste even, and totally WFPB-friendly: a cup and 1/2 of frozen berries like framboise + juice of 1/2 lemon + 2 spoons of chia seeds + a touch of agave sirope (or a smashed Dade, or honey if you can eat it--> put the mix in the microwave for a couple of minutes and you have jam for the entire week on your whole grain toast ;)....
What about KETO brown sugar? Is it better than artificial sweeteners? Will it spike hour blood sugar?
Best thing to do is get a blood testing kit and test yourself. Everybody is different.
I decided year ago when I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes I would not eat sugar sweetened foods or drink sugared sodas. As I replacement, I have an artificially sweetened soda whenever I want one. which is often. I am now 80 years old and healthy and not overweight. I was drinking "Tab" when it first came out and read where the artificial sweeteners would give me cancer. I decided to take the risk and drank it anyway. Later I read the test that showed the risk of cancer when used in mice was the human equivalent of 600 cans of soda daily. Every artificial sweetener is said to be really bad for some reason.....but I continue to take the risk and so far, so good. A few more years and maybe can say I am seeing the longevity effect of metformin which has recently been in the news.....that is a side effect I can live with...
In the meantime if I want something sweetened with an artificial sweetener I have it, and do not worry....
I put half a packet of Splenda in my no salt oatmeal every morning and it gives me just the right touch of a sweetness boost.
Moderation in all things
Correlation isn’t causation. Layne Norton covered this. People who have had heart attacks have higher levels of erythritol in their blood. The body CREATES erythritol. These people were even consuming anything that had erythritol levels high enough to account for the levels in their blood. It’s present in people who have had heart attacks because the body produces it.
Another fine example of people doing a fine job of misinterpreting data.
What about coconut palm sugar?
Charlene, coconut sugar retains many nutrients found in the coconut palm - mostly iron, zinc, calcium, and potassium. These nutrients can support the body in numerous ways, but coconut sugar does not contain enough of them per serving to offer a measurable benefit.
Palm sugar is a comparatively healthier option than refined sugar as it consists of less glucose and a low glycemic index. Palm sugar has a low glycemic index. It does not add as much strain to the heart as sugar or other sweeteners and stabilizes blood sugar levels.
Can Dr. Bernard talk a bit about Allulose?
Love PCRM... Will you be making plans to bring a live show to Denver? The only appropriate answer is YES..
Would have been nice to hear more info on these sweeteners rather than use the new deadly findings as merely a "hook" to propel lifestyle and diet changes. The answers to today's topic question still went largely unanswered while showing we don't "need" sweeteners at all. Would have been helpful to those changing sweeteners to something not considered safe, but GRAS, to know more as about those alternatives in TODAY'S world, including
those with family pets should know XYLITOL is DEADLY TO DOGS.
Cats can't taste sweet. If your cat takes a lick of your ice cream, she is not doing it for the sweet flavor. She is doing it for the milk flavor. Incidentally most cats are lactose intolerant so do not feed ice cream. A teaspoon of yogurt is OK.
Does Stevia have the same problem? I use it in my coffee once a day. The box says no added erythritol. The Stevia is called Stevia in the Raw and I was happy to see that they had eliminated the erythritol. I use two packets a day with my either 1 or two cups of coffee a day. I also use Light Blue Agave, two teaspoons in coffee or tea. I do not use sugar because it is processed with hooves of horses and other animals. I do not eat things that live animals were murdered to produce.
erythritol containing foods are notoriously high in saturated fat. that's why it seems to cause platelet stickiness.
Why are we craving sweets!? Your answer is the food industry which has been pushing sugar in almost every foods you buy for the last 50 or more years. What was created out of all this is an addiction to sugar that causes all these diseases you see today. I'm a T2D person that has not touched sugar for 11 years that controls their disease by low carb zero sugar diet exercise. I certainly stopped any cravings for sweet things years back but enjoy a cup or two daily but with Erythritol/Monk fruit sweetener now this controversy with Erythritol has since frightened the daylights out of me.
I now have to rethink the very low use of it until the real facts of damage surfaces. I do not use any other artificial sweeteners in any other food I consume.
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NO MEAT! NO FAKE FOOD!
What can we bake healthy cookies with?
Would it be better just using regular table sugar
What about inulin and allulose?
What about Turkey Bacon, is also unhealthy?
Thanks.
With all the fresh fruit, vegetables and fish in Hawaii, I can’t believe a can of Spam is even considered over there.
I only really have Sucralose (Splenda) in my tea. In things like porridge I use dried fruit or banana to get natural sugars.
Splenda only has a tiny amount of Sucralose. 95% is dextrose and maltodextrin.
@@torstrasburg8289 I cut that out too now, I either have sugar or fruit. I only have a few cups of tea a week anyway and Splenda is mega expensive too.
What about Agave sweeteners are they ok to use?
I use date sugar, it does leave trace fibre in my thee, but that's fine.
Had to stop right there when the doctor stated that excessive sugar consumption does not lead to T2D. Come on, really?
@ChuckCarrollWLC - What about those unsweetened waters like Aha or LA Croix ? It seems to have no sweetener, and it says "naturally essenced"
It's better to have some honey with coffee than some white powder sweetener
Don’t eat sugar or sweeteners.
You still have to look at calories.. been vegan x1 year and dropped 40lbs..but measure food and check calories!!
Steveia my blood sugar weird make me very sick even little bit
What about malitol
Hi i would like to make a cake what can a use as a sweetner that is not toosweet
THANK YOU for addressing this! I'm an intentional, Healthy eater, but I use erythritol quite often. I drink (non alcoholic) drinks all day long that have it in it. I was told it was a "Good Alternative" Now I'm being told it could be assisting in "Insulin Resistance"
I was born w/a Rare heart condition,(TOF, they tell me Im the "Poster Child" bc of when I was born) so I need to be careful.
How about drinking just plain water? Healthier! And for a change, San Pelegríno water, which may contain some useful minerals (will check on that.)
What do you guys know about allulose? Someone recently gifted me a big container of RxSugar and the only ingredient in it is allulose which is a plant derived sugar. But that's all I know about it
I use it along with stevia and monk fruit, but it's not nearly as sweet yet taste very natural just like regular sugar. It's suppose to be safe but it is a sugar alcohol like erythritol and xylitol...
@Larry C thank you! I used some whilst making chia seed pudding, tasted great. Just not aware of any potential health risks it might cause
Thank you for this video! Just yesterday I was trying to figure out the erythritol topic - I’ll pass on the potential thrombosis.
P.s. I did the 21 Day Vegan Kickstart about a year ago. I was apprehensive and anxious for about a week, but I’ve since maintained this healthy WFPB diet. I feel better, look better, have more energy, im happier, and I’ve lost another 30lbs transitioning from my previous ketogenic-ish omnivorous diet.
I now identify as a healthy vegan.
there may be a difference on how bad they are for you but non are actually 'healthy'.
Is it "mock fruit" or "monk fruit"?
Monk fruit.
Any idea on the dangerous of Disodium Phosphate found in all dairy and non dairy creamers?
Gems 💎
got to have some more things that are causing all the sudden blood c lot s and hear t attacks in young peop le and athletes and healthy folks, because we all were figuring it out what was causing it...and those who can think still know.
What about xylitol sugar is it toxic ism using for my teeth i feel sick after injesting it.
Do you use it in gum?
I know, when I use it, mosquitos dont come around
Unless you're allergic to XYLITOL
@@kathleenking47 mint
I am going to cut out any vegan and vegetarian frozen meals because they are so filled with salt and I think salt should be a flavor enhancer not taste like its the main ingredient. Cream of Salt Soup anyone? I will get my protein from a can of beans. Going to buy a rice/slow cooker and order regular vegetables and make my own soups and stews. A little bit more time consuming but healthier.
Xylitol is a great sweetener. It is naturally occurring in fruits and it actually makes bad bacteria die off
After giving up white sugar, I now prefer organic Agave Nectar.
This doc is way off the charts. No Maltodextrin is NOT ok for you. LOL.
is that like Cola Zero and pepsi max ? erythritol = Sukrin ?
Nitrite’s digested lower blood pressure. 😂
Xylitol is also very deadly to dogs!
Stevia has it I thought that was safe guess not. Monk fruit does not say it's in it.
Robert Lustig MD would not agree with this episode 😅
RIP MAD DOCTOR & LIK DEBBIE
So, on a healthy diet, it's ok to sue artificial sweetener? Dr B keeps giving examples of eating double bacon burgers!
it's probably safe in small amounts. dose makes the poison, i think. but i still would rather just use real sugar.
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Dr berg the chiro guy is saying Niacin B/3 is good for heart health. Always a grain of salt with dr berg
My monkfruit contains erythritol. Gah!!
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So did he just say basically "the fat we eat is the fat we wear"? It's eating too much, in a caloric surplus, that makes a person obese. Sure, with a higher fat, processed food diet, it's easy to eat in a calorie surplus. But this idea that eating whole food, plant-based vegan is the only way to get there is just wrong. Lots of very lean cuts of meat that you could eat and still keep your caloric intake from fats under 10% or what ever Dr. Barnard recommends. In fact, if I substitute my tofu with boneless chicken breast, I'd be eating 50%-70% less fat.
As for causes of type 2 diabetes:
From the NIH:
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What is the main cause of diabetes type 2?
Overweight, obesity, and physical inactivity
You are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes if you are not physically active and are overweight or have obesity. Extra weight sometimes causes insulin resistance and is common in people with type 2 diabetes.
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From Diabetes UK:
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Does sugar cause diabetes?
There are two main types of diabetes - type 1 and type 2 diabetes.
We know that sugar does not cause type 1 diabetes, nor is it caused by anything else in your lifestyle. In type 1 diabetes, the insulin producing cells in your pancreas are destroyed by your immune system.
With type 2 diabetes, the answer is a little more complex. Though we know sugar doesn’t directly cause type 2 diabetes, you are more likely to get it if you are overweight. You gain weight when you take in more calories than your body needs, and sugary foods and drinks contain a lot of calories.
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So the same answer holds true for fat. It contributes to diabetes (type 2) if it puts you in a calorie surplus and makes you overweight or obese. A bacon double cheeseburger from 5 Guys has 1060 calories. A large fries from 5 Guys has 1314 calories. There are 302 calories in each burger patty, 80 calories in 2 pieces of bacon. Their buns have 236 calories. So the bun itself is about equal to a burger patty.
So if you just have 2 burger patties and bacon, that's 684 calories in total. Maybe folks are gaining weight because of the other 1690 calories they're eating, not to mention all the other food during the day.
It's the standard American eating diet that causes type 2 diabetes, not any specific macro nutrient. Hyper palatable food the encourages overconsumption. Not "fats", not "sugar", not "meat". Lots of eating patterns have been shown to reduce the levels of diabetes. You use science and medical sounding words, but you're not thinking like a real scientist. There's no problem with your personal bias, but to omit other dietary patterns still not being intellectually honest and makes your take on a lot of things (like artificial sweeteners) suspect.
Nothing wrong with nitrates, some plants have way more nitrates than ham and salami
Nitrates in plants help your bacteria convert it into Nitric Oxide, it's the good stuff that keeps your blood vessels open.
THIS GUY IS NOT EVEN A DOCTOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOTAL FAKE !!!!!!!!!
Coconut sugar over coconut fat?
Are you leading your followers to Alzheimers and cancer faster than ever?
Will you share how your dietician Susan died because many end stage cancer patients given few months to live were able to thrive by removing carbs and sugar?
Really need more info on your dietician Susan
I want Kristi Funk to feed all commercial soy products to Dean Ornish's wife and daily feed her mangoes and grapes. I don't trust her scientific wisdom if she can't explain why rare cancer patients heal on carnivore diet without chemotherapy
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I think you're confused
Cite the studies please. I'm willing to read them if you post them
@@teachertrx1204 - Kundan Saran won’t be posting the links to any studies because there are none. This person is a troll.
Barnard says you can eat as much sugar as you want if you eliminate fat …SMH
Not what he said at all.
Listen at 10:00 mark. Barnard said sugar what NOT the driver for diabetes onset. He says that fat in cells and the intake of fats (esp saturated fats) are the driver of diabetes onset
Check out the rice diet from Walter Kempner, Barnard isn't that far off, it's much better to eat sugar than to eat fat. Diabetes type 2 is caused by fat blocking the insulin receptors. Check out Mastering Diabetes or dr. John McDougall on this, both will explain very well. My husband is also t2d he's already down with his medication 80%, we don't limit fruit and he has some date sugar in his thee. We do limit dietary fat and his insulin reception has vastly improved.