But does it play lead? Rickenbacker 360 vs. Gibson ES-335
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- A Rickenbacker is for rhythm, right? But what about lead? How does it stack up against the mighty 335? Three comparisons: 1. Bridge pickup - 60s beat. 2. Middle position - blues. 3. Neck pickup - melodic pop.
Here is a link to the first song: drive.google.c...
The Ric has a far above all distinct sound; it is not 'just another' expensive electric guitar, and they all are works of art!
I have both of them... Rickenbacker is my fav
Nice work with the RIC. Both guitars are beautiful, but the RIC’s always do it for me. And in the right hands they can handle any style of music.
Thank you, and I agree! I bought the 360 way back when I was 21, and it's been my main guitar since then.
Check out My Generation album and the early who records. Pete got such cool sounds out of his ricks. Zoot Suit sounds bluesy but played on a 340 I think.
I recommend Here Tis (by the High Numbers)
Much Too Much
It's Not True
and the whole My Generation album tbh
Both are supreme, I’d just say the Gibson gets some of the darker tones richer. Speaking as a Rickenbacker player myself
bonus points for Bad Ambassador
Neil Hannon is just a master songwriter.
I feel like the Ric is loaded with personality in its sound . What are the names of the songs , please ?
They're both beautiful. The rick cuts through more, but the 335 has that fat, warm, blues sound
It is but not much more fat tbh they were a lot closer than i thought theyd be
Pretzel Logic ❤
I’m shocked at how close these are. Ricks are severely underrated. They are definitely different but are so close to eachother at the same time. I love es guitars but ricks are always a dream. How is it to play? I’ve only ever heard they have narrow chunky necks with low frets. I’ve got big hands so I’m curious. I love the sound btw that 360 is lovely
Thanks a lot! The combination of a narrow fretboard and low frets takes some getting used to, especially if your point of reference is a Strat or Les Paul.
Spectacular. You proved to me that Rickenbackers can be use for leads instead of rhythm or jangle pop playing. The Rickenbacker for me wins 😎🎸😎🎸😎
For me, if you close your eyes, and use your ears to 'see', they sound pretty much the same. Ricks often get a bad rap for their versatility or lack thereof, but, I think that particular guitar myth has been exposed here. Some great blues riff/lead playing too - which again belies the oft-cited claim that Rickenbackers aren't very good for playing blues/lead guitar (on) - Thanks for uploading.
Thank you!
You're very welcome, and, I've liked and subscribed too!@@becauseguitarsolos1264
Both great guitars. For me a Rick is like an ES but with single coils. Both very versatile
Thank you! My hot take is that a Rick is more similar to an SG than to a 335. Just to explain: For raspy, gritty riffs I find myself reaching either to the Rick or the SG, for smooth leads or snappy funky rhythm stuff I prefer the 335. For sparkly cleans, either the 335 or the Rick, there they are pretty close.
the Rickenbackers are undervalued. I also use them for solos
One name Paul Weller.
The first solo reminds me of Teenage Fanclub.
Wow, that's a great compliment, thank you!
Great video and great playing. They're different but I dug em both!
You can use a Ric from anything you want from "Byrds jangle" to Metal. It is only oneself who decides what to do and sets the limits. And this goes for any guitar..
Good video. 👍
Two great guitars. It really boils down to personal preference. Fortunately, we don't have to choose only one. It just depends on how many you can afford.
The 360 holds up it's end of the deal very well...but a 335 is the bread and butter of leads and soloing.. From Eric Clapton to Larry Carlton.. But no.. I used to own a 360..Miss it ...Best for rhythm parts.. and looking VERY COOL!! Great playing.. Feel free to add a little' verb for sweetening.. Little dry..
Thank you! Both are just fantastic guitars, and they inspire you to play different things.
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 I have a '66 360 with the dainty neck and 7-1/4" radius. It has tons of soul. I love it but I must say soloing is a real art on that thing. They won't let you get away with certain things. For those I use other guitars. Th rhythm sounds on the Ric are pretty hard to beat.
@@promoted738 Absolutely, there's no denying their special character!
Rickenbacker just can’t play phenomenal lead. Everybody knows that! Sure 🙄
Listen to the first and bit of Chris Buck’s playing a Ric 330. Incredible.
th-cam.com/video/Os5jgQTEIvc/w-d-xo.html
I call two winners. For me, the similarities AS WELL as the differences is what makes it so. Thank you for the demo!
Thank you for the comment!
Great demo
I have a '66 330, but your videos have made me want to get a 360 with hi-gains. That said, I think the Gibson sounded better on the last two of the three, especially the Steely Dan. Nice playing.
Thank you! And yes, for the Dan, a 335 is the weapon of choice.
Ric for the win.
Years ago, I had a turquoise 360. I stripped the varnish off the fretboard to bare wood and installed Medium Jumbo frets like I have on my Les Paul. Abracadabra, wow. Like an idiot I sold it, one day I'll get another.
Ricks are my favourite looking guitars hands down. I just don't get on with them for some reason, which genuinely breaks my heart! I don't even know why, just can't seem to bond. Oh, if you don't think a Rick can handle rock, look up Unknown Hinson of The Squidbillies playing Voodoo Chile on one!
It’s not completely the guitars, it’s the pickups mostly.
Two different types.
Just dial in a crappy sound on each guitar, and voila, it doesn't matter!
I habitually clicked to the middle of the video and I did not expect to hear a steely dan solo!
yes they can play lead!!!! Checkout the Smithereens!!!!
The only gripe I have with the Ricks, is that the necks are so skinny.
There just isn't much room for my fat old fingers.
Never played one I didn't like, but I still prefer my 335.
I have a 2004 330 with a beefy neck! Love it.
I think the Rick sounds better in most cases , it's actually pretty versatile but most people who play them are looking for a specific texture not playing it as it is and using it as a basic guitar , I'd love to get one and I really don't play a lot in the traditional way ,plus I play lead with a lot of gain, but if I can use a telecaster the Rick might even be better
My Rick 360 is much harder to solo on than my Gibsons. (But I guess it's what you're used to, plus set up etc.) I do find that the fingerboard feels really flat compared to my SGs. I have a 350 too, which is a longer neck version of Lennon's 325. I've recently devoted a couple of weeks to ONLY playing that because it's really hard to get used to. I'm beginning to get some results. The narrow Ricky fingerboard takes some getting used to I guess. Totally love Ricks though. They look and sound so darn cool!
In a word , YES !!! that Riccy sounds good !!
Of course the solution is just to buy both.
Great lead lines man!
But does it djent?
I’ve played metal on various es guitars including full sized arch top with p90
I love my Rickenbacker guitars - this is a great show case for their versatility. Bravo!
Thank you!!
You can play lead on any guitar, regardless of scale length, pickups, string gauge and with the action that works for you...
I own a few Rickenbackers ( a 330, a 360 and a 625 ) and I play lots of solos on them, the same way I use my Fenders, my Gibsons and all of my other guitars...
And they take high gain very well...
I think the image of Rickenbackers may come from the fact that many ( but not ALL) famous Rickie players were mostly lead singers/ rhythm guitar players perhaps ?
A Rickenbacker has a very distinctive look and sound. Thing is, with the right player it can play any genre of music.
I honestly like it for a country sound more than a Telecaster...
Chain lightning! It feels so good!
One of the best lead guitarist's I've ever seen live played a 360, and there's a clip of Rob Chapman playing a 330, and a 360 on the Anderton's YT show that'll lock it down that it's all about the player... the only legit criticism I've ever heard that works against a Ric as a lead guitar is the lacquered fret board, and how with stage lighting, the 'shine' can create some problems when looking down to see what you're doing.
Good point. For some reason, the fretboard on mine isn't all that shiny. I've seen Rics with really glossy fretboards, where I could imagine that being a problem.
Ruby red Rickenbacker 360s are so clean fireglo is overrated
First solo, Rick solo.
hey man, great playing, beautiful guitars, what's the name of the first song/solo? cheers
Thank you! The first song is something I wrote myself, it's off an EP we did in the late 90s.
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 have you released it?? If so what's the title?
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 do you also have any tabs or tutorial of the first song?
Great video! Neat comparison. What was the second song?
Pretzel logic by Steely Dan: th-cam.com/video/UBxZFadp9Pw/w-d-xo.html
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 Rats!! I meant the third song. Thank for replying!
@@jsb1964 OK, the third one is by the Divine Comedy, it's called Bad ambassador: th-cam.com/video/8jxOIFtG8Ss/w-d-xo.html Incidentally, I would argue that this is one of the best music videos ever made.
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 Cool, I'm doing research, trying to convince myself not to buy a 360, and I get a link to an interesting band. Thanks!
BTW, I failed in my attempt Not to get a beautiful Fireglow 360. I've owned a 4001, 4003, but this will by my first Ric 6. Can't wait for it to get here.
Answer: No, the Rickenbacker does not
I’m a big Rick fan but the ES sounded incredible on the first song. What is the exact model version of the ES-335? I have a Rick with toaster pickups, those modern pickups sound like P90s
Thank you! The ES is a standard 1997 production model, with 57 classic humbuckers. There's a dot reissue model that is a bit fancier, I haven't had a chance to play one of those.
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 what is the first song? it is so good
@@festivalhd3617 Oh man, that is a song I wrote in the 1990s. That was pre-internet, so it is not even online anywhere else except here: drive.google.com/file/d/1NAjIRN-1FCADWsI8gvsgbGz4Ce6oSJbY/view?usp=sharing
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 Congratulations bro this song is beautiful. Also i listen Les Garçons. Are you guitarist of les garçons? ❤
@@festivalhd3617 Thank you, and yes, that's me. Or rather, me 20 years ago. ;)
Are you using pedals ? I notice with a sansamp m'y ricks soins as distorted as I could ever want
I'm not much into pedals in general, but for the Ric, a compressor is pretty much an obligatory part of the rig, and a treble boost is great in front of a cranked AC30.
Great playing, you’ll make anything you pick up sound great...the Ric faired very well, but I’ll still take the 335. Sweet Dan tune and licks 😎
You're too kind, thank you!
once you get used to the narrow neck they kill!
Any guitar can be used for lead. The question is whether or not the player likes those tiny vintage frets. To me a Ric 330/360 is nothing more than a pretty Tele thinline.
And Tele Thinlines are awesome.
Tele Thinlines rock!
@@becauseguitarsolos1264 @kynoceph i only say that due to construction (ie lack of xply laminate) - but i agree with you both
No wonder I like them so much!
would be the engineers choice for the recording like fender P base
Wondering what pickups are in the 335?
It's got the 57 classics.
I doesn't help that you're dogging a guitar line in your backing track. We can't get the pure sound of the guitars...
If you want to isolate the lead, the tracks are panned to the left and right.
Steely Dan?
Oh yes. Pretzel logic. Walter Becker at his finest.
I'm a Rickenbacker man myself, but the 335 has a better sound for lead. How's that for some objectivity?
The 335 is a legend for a bunch of good reasons, its lead tones being one of them.
Agreed. I love Rics. But the Gibson 335 has better separation between the notes' sounds. (Prob. the pickups mostly). Makes it easier for the listener to hear the soul / sense/ expression of the lead solos. And the wider neck would give more room for the guitarist to move around with, bend notes, etc.
I have a Ricky 12 string 1993 plus reissue, however in this case the ES335 takes the cake!
I'm not a musician but I thought the Gibson had a better overall sound. The Smithereens and REM do just fine with Rickenbackers. Fans just want a good performance I think. I saw a video with Clapton playing a Strat and Frampton playing a Gibson and the Gibson sounded better too me.
Hmmmm.....no real surprise that the 335 just seemed to have "more of everything". But not that much more! The Ricky certainly did the job....and there's just something so damned cool about Rickenbackers!
The thing about the 335 is that it has its own amazing character and it lets you get very close to the sound of other types of guitar with a bit of fiddling. I love everything about the 360, but the 335 is the guitar for the desert island if you can take only one.
Nobody asked this question.
Low frets make the Ric less than ideal for bends.
Yes, the frets are extremely low and skinny. To see how small they are, check out this video for some close-up pictures: th-cam.com/video/dWwwxN7v52k/w-d-xo.html
Gibson, of course, as always, has more meat to its sound.
gibson humbuckers tend to kill the bottom and top and boost the midrange. some call that meaty..
Surely they’re both great for different applications.
@@marzsit9833 disagree about the low end
umm yeah. Sorry but these licks belong on a tele. Still great guitar and I want it but more for rhythm
No diferences in sound
If you cant hear that the 335 is a superior instrument, I honestly dont know what to tell you. Ricks are cool but I put them in the same category as Gretsch. Very specialized. The 335 does it all.
Sure, compared to the 335 (and the strat), most other guitars are niche instruments.
The 335 sounds too syrupy for me. I’m a single-coil man and dislike the sound of humbuckers.
@@thomaspappalardo7589 I learned to play with a Tele, so it took me a long while to get used to humbuckers. On the 335, most of the time I have the volume pots dialed back to 5-6 to thin out the humbuckers just to where I like them.
They both sound distorted. Like they are running thru some stupid pedals.
Do you think distortion is stupid?
@@JugaJuga14 I love distortion. Don't eveybody? It makes guitars all sound so different.