NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
Actually, i use dual 27 inch 4k monitors with an m3 max macbook. I also use this with windows for development environme reqyiring it. It is fine. Not 5k, but still very usable, and I would think much better than getting low resolution monitors. Apple uses bicubic scalling for fonts, icons, etc., when not vector based. However for images, it will not make any difference. It is text, bitmapped icons, and scrolling through some kinds on content where it makes a difference. Apple could, if they wanted to, add the bitmaps to support the very common 27inch 4k, and add alternative scaling approaches, but chooses not to. What i would love, is if they update the studio display and find it in their hearts to reduce the price even a few hundred for at least for the vesa mount. Maybe a budget version withot speakers, microphone, and 999, but with all the apple quality. Also, with default option to use their current standard for color space, plus a selectable wider gamut native for photography. Otherwise, please start supporting 4k properly. It takes some engineering, but nothing astronomical.
Solid video and good to understand, Apple really did figure out optimum PPI way ahead of the curve, this mirrors my experience. I personally found 4k @ 27" unworkable, at the same time 1080P is too enlarged on 27". 1440p is the sweet spot at 27" and double the scaling to 5k (5120x2880). I hope for high refresh displays to grace this space in the future. Mac or Windows I would agree and avoid 4K(same with ultra-wides, but sometimes you have to experience it to believe it)...
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Same issues for me running a 4K Dell 27" monitor. Apple seems to default to a looks like 1920 x 1080 scale which is 2x scale which is Integer scaling and is the best option for sharpness. But in reality I prefer 2560 x 1440 looks like scale but ends up less crisp because it is a non-integer scale. Splitting up pixels is not possible, you always want a scale factor of x1,x2,x3. Smart to buy a 1440 monitor where you can use 100% or x1 scaling so no problems dealing with scaling.
NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
@@alperkocatas2353 I ended buying a 27" 4k LG monitor and scale it down to 1080p. Looks great. Glad I didn't go the native 1440p route for office work but get why some do. 5k scaled to 1440p is the goal.
@@jasras5003 Yes, I also thought that I would just spend this transition period using my LG 4k 27 inch monitor, but apparently, that transition is happening veeery slowly. We still do not see any 27 inch 5k monitors other than Apple's and Samsung's. Come on LG, you can do it !!! (I am not counting ultrafine 5k as an option, since it's still too expensive and hard to find)
Thank you so much for the video! Everything is perfectly understandable! But did I understand correctly, you chose the Samsung for $1800 over the MacStudio, which costs about the same? What's the logic?
Samsung's displays often have higher resolution, higher contrast ratio, better high dynamic range If you compare them both side-by-side you will notice the difference anytime bro.
@@MrMahdy nah bro - I thought your vid was insightful but in the end you've undermined it with such decision lol. Makes no sense - nothing integrates better with Apple than Apple devices, screens included
Hi! What will be better for choose for begginner photographer to use with Mac M1 mini? Used Benq sw270c 1440p with adobe rgb 109 PPI Or Benq PD3220U 4k 140 PPI?
Hi Mahdy.. Did u experience any Kernel crashes while using the S9 with the Apple silicon Mac? I have seen that mentioned in many places. I'm also considering to buy the same monitor and seeing about this issue made me worry. Thanks for the very informative explanation.
This monitor works flawlessly with Mac , With no issues if you have the opportunity to choose one the Apple or the S9 Go for the Samsung S9 you will never regret.
@@MrMahdy Thanks for the reply. One last question. Is the difference between a 5K and a scaled 4K drastically visible with a 27-inch monitor? I'm from Australia and managed to find a great deal from Samsung for around US$880 (A$1330) where the retail price is A$2300. My next option is the Dell U2723QE (27-inch 4K) which is around A$600. Do you think the $700 difference is worth it in the long run? Appreciate your view on this matter.
This is tough to understand ! Thanks for the video though; I was just looking at 4k monitors for my Mac (would have been screwed up) Without the math, I guess what it means: A 27 inch monitor 1440p or 5k display is good... Not a 4k display Thanks !
Hello, how are you doing? You definitely must return it back. I suggest buying a 27 inch 1440 P you will end up at 110 PPI non retina or buy a 34 inch 1440 P you will also end at 110 PPI as a non retina display or you can take my choice and buy a 27 inch 5K 5120×2880 after a scaling will be 1440p and you will end at Reina display 220p super crisp and sharp I wish you found this helpful
NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
Hi I have a 27 1440 monitor but I find the text very small then the hipdi option from Apple looks very zoomed in! Any help with this will be much appreciated
It's absolutely fine. It's considered as a 110 PPI non-retina, and it is in the safe zone just go the Apple logo on youre mac in the upper left hand and go to settings and type display and the choose (default)
Thanks it’s just the text look a bit small I can use the hidpi but it looks a bit zoomed in! Something in between would be perfect haha have you used any apps that scale? Switch res for example
TLDR: Mac is stupid and only supports well the the original or the half. 27" 4K: too small or too big (1080p) 27" 1440p: good 27 5k: good for M-Pro but it's expensive.
@@annamarialocurto5650 I prefer if you double check the video again so you can understand the difference between 110 PPI and 220 PPI and what is the resolution 1440 P.
@@annamarialocurto5650 go for a 27 inch monitor 1440P its a 110 ppi in the safe zone or go for a 27 inch 5k 2880P 220 ppi in the safe zone best regard.
NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
Macbook Pro supports the original 4k resolution when set to 1080p. Just check the system report to find the best combination.
Actually, i use dual 27 inch 4k monitors with an m3 max macbook. I also use this with windows for development environme reqyiring it. It is fine. Not 5k, but still very usable, and I would think much better than getting low resolution monitors.
Apple uses bicubic scalling for fonts, icons, etc., when not vector based. However for images, it will not make any difference.
It is text, bitmapped icons, and scrolling through some kinds on content where it makes a difference.
Apple could, if they wanted to, add the bitmaps to support the very common 27inch 4k, and add alternative scaling approaches, but chooses not to.
What i would love, is if they update the studio display and find it in their hearts to reduce the price even a few hundred for at least for the vesa mount. Maybe a budget version withot speakers, microphone, and 999, but with all the apple quality. Also, with default option to use their current standard for color space, plus a selectable wider gamut native for photography.
Otherwise, please start supporting 4k properly. It takes some engineering, but nothing astronomical.
Solid video and good to understand, Apple really did figure out optimum PPI way ahead of the curve, this mirrors my experience. I personally found 4k @ 27" unworkable, at the same time 1080P is too enlarged on 27". 1440p is the sweet spot at 27" and double the scaling to 5k (5120x2880). I hope for high refresh displays to grace this space in the future. Mac or Windows I would agree and avoid 4K(same with ultra-wides, but sometimes you have to experience it to believe it)...
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Same issues for me running a 4K Dell 27" monitor. Apple seems to default to a looks like 1920 x 1080 scale which is 2x scale which is Integer scaling and is the best option for sharpness. But in reality I prefer 2560 x 1440 looks like scale but ends up less crisp because it is a non-integer scale. Splitting up pixels is not possible, you always want a scale factor of x1,x2,x3. Smart to buy a 1440 monitor where you can use 100% or x1 scaling so no problems dealing with scaling.
I was lost and really thank you for this wonderful explanation 🎉 I well sell my 4K AND CALCULATE MY NEW DISPLAY❤❤❤
Thanks for this information❤😊
I recently brought a 27inch 2K monitor and had to upscale/downscale using the app betterdisplay, mac scaling is a nightmare
what resolution are you using now? do you get good text?
@MrMahdy thanks for this information. Where did you find the graphic showing Retina PPI sweet spots?
NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
Wow...thank you for the information 😃
What's wrong with the Mac mini m1? Can I buy a 4k monitor without worrying or should I buy a 2k monitor?
First thank you for subscribing buy a 2k monitor instead
Yeah i have been through this and yeah s9 view infinity is the best for mac just bought it couple of months ago
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Good ❤and thanks ❤
A 4K monitor scaling down to 1440 is a whole lot better than a native 1440k monitor.
1440 p is best for mac
@@MrMahdy What are your thoughts on a 4k monitor scaled down to 1440p?
@@jasras5003i used it for the last 4 years. Not as sharp as 5k scaled to 1440, but it is waaaaaaay better than native 1440p
@@alperkocatas2353 I ended buying a 27" 4k LG monitor and scale it down to 1080p. Looks great. Glad I didn't go the native 1440p route for office work but get why some do. 5k scaled to 1440p is the goal.
@@jasras5003 Yes, I also thought that I would just spend this transition period using my LG 4k 27 inch monitor, but apparently, that transition is happening veeery slowly. We still do not see any 27 inch 5k monitors other than Apple's and Samsung's. Come on LG, you can do it !!! (I am not counting ultrafine 5k as an option, since it's still too expensive and hard to find)
Thank you so much for the video! Everything is perfectly understandable!
But did I understand correctly, you chose the Samsung for $1800 over the MacStudio, which costs about the same? What's the logic?
Samsung's displays often have higher resolution, higher contrast ratio, better high dynamic range If you compare them both side-by-side you will notice the difference anytime bro.
@@MrMahdy nah bro - I thought your vid was insightful but in the end you've undermined it with such decision lol. Makes no sense - nothing integrates better with Apple than Apple devices, screens included
Hi! What will be better for choose for begginner photographer to use with Mac M1 mini?
Used Benq sw270c 1440p with adobe rgb 109 PPI
Or
Benq PD3220U 4k 140 PPI?
This is absolutely fine
@@MrMahdy but I don't know which wiill be better 🙈
@@MrMahdy Pd3220U has got 196 PPI
@@grzegorzkacperski2471 NEVER use a 4K under any circumstances.
Hi Mahdy.. Did u experience any Kernel crashes while using the S9 with the Apple silicon Mac? I have seen that mentioned in many places. I'm also considering to buy the same monitor and seeing about this issue made me worry. Thanks for the very informative explanation.
This monitor works flawlessly with Mac , With no issues if you have the opportunity to choose one the Apple or the S9 Go for the Samsung S9 you will never regret.
@@MrMahdy Thanks for the reply. One last question. Is the difference between a 5K and a scaled 4K drastically visible with a 27-inch monitor? I'm from Australia and managed to find a great deal from Samsung for around US$880 (A$1330) where the retail price is A$2300. My next option is the Dell U2723QE (27-inch 4K) which is around A$600. Do you think the $700 difference is worth it in the long run? Appreciate your view on this matter.
@@samitharasanjana Forget about any 4K monitor with Mac. You must rewatch my video again 27 Inch 5K 220 PPI Retina Display in the safe ZONE.
@@MrMahdy I just placed an order to secure the great deal. Thank you for the detailed explanation.
@@samitharasanjana any time brother
This is tough to understand !
Thanks for the video though; I was just looking at 4k monitors for my Mac (would have been screwed up)
Without the math, I guess what it means: A 27 inch monitor 1440p or 5k display is good... Not a 4k display
Thanks !
any time brother
Oh no. I just ordered a 16in 2K monitor:2560 by 1600 to use as an external monitor with my M1 Air. Does it mean it will not work?
Hello, how are you doing? You definitely must return it back. I suggest buying a 27 inch 1440 P you will end up at 110 PPI non retina or buy a 34 inch 1440 P you will also end at 110 PPI as a non retina display or you can take my choice and buy a 27 inch 5K 5120×2880 after a scaling will be 1440p and you will end at Reina display 220p super crisp and sharp I wish you found this helpful
NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)
A monitor with 3840x2160px with 28inch has 157, 35ppi is good for Mac mini??
No its in the Bad zone double check my video again.
I went with the new Dell 2725DS 27" 2560x1440. Ditched the HDMI cord and went with thunderbolt to DisplayPort.
Very good, but I prefer you check the website above for the correct calculations and as I can see, this is a 110 PPI
Very good
Hi I have a 27 1440 monitor but I find the text very small then the hipdi option from Apple looks very zoomed in! Any help with this will be much appreciated
Hello reply with the display spec or model number bro
@@MrMahdy AOC Q27G2U/BK Quad HD 27" VA Gaming Monitor thanks so much
It's absolutely fine. It's considered as a 110 PPI non-retina, and it is in the safe zone just go the Apple logo on youre mac in the upper left hand and go to settings and type display and the choose (default)
Thanks it’s just the text look a bit small I can use the hidpi but it looks a bit zoomed in! Something in between would be perfect haha have you used any apps that scale? Switch res for example
@@georgepayne9506 No just set you're mac display to default.
TLDR:
Mac is stupid and only supports well the the original or the half.
27" 4K: too small or too big (1080p)
27" 1440p: good
27 5k: good for M-Pro but it's expensive.
You're stupid lol
Ur explanation of mac scaling can not be easily understood.
You MUST not skip watch the entire video I am concentrating on all the aspects. They all work in harmony.
Apple is weird. Windows font rendering can work with any modern monitor size with any resolution.
You're weird lol
So 4k is not good??
Forget about 4k with mac.
@@MrMahdy and if it has 1440px?
@@annamarialocurto5650 I prefer if you double check the video again so you can understand the difference between 110 PPI and 220 PPI and what is the resolution 1440 P.
@@MrMahdy I don't understand spoken English. I'm Italian!
Can you write?
@@annamarialocurto5650 go for a 27 inch monitor 1440P its a 110 ppi in the safe zone or go for a 27 inch 5k 2880P 220 ppi in the safe zone best regard.