I tried 3000-Year-Old Hairstyles • Using Iron Age Tools!

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  • @MorganDonner
    @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

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    • @c.wrightcreativeautochtone2574
      @c.wrightcreativeautochtone2574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve i question about this... I played this game but it basically was just a seek and find.

    • @warriormaiden9829
      @warriormaiden9829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd like to suggest a bit of a shortcut to make perfect, tapered spirals. Get a chopstick that is about the same size as your braid end. Wrap the wire around the chopstick to desired length, then trim the ends, smooth, and flatten in. Slide off the chopstick, and proceed with styling. :)

    • @wynnew.h5245
      @wynnew.h5245 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You finally got me (to be fair, Bernadette and Rachel laid a good groundwork) and I was surprised by how much I like this game!

    • @cayenigma
      @cayenigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about twisting the spiral so the top end of it bites inside the braid, would that hold better?

    • @FoxVox
      @FoxVox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if they used the spiral to cinch a knot?
      When I braid or fingercurl my hair I often finish it with a figure 8 knot.
      I tried this with a homemade spiral and it captures and stays great!

  • @h.m.d.2989
    @h.m.d.2989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2471

    Ancient hairdresser - "You can have the braid or the braid."

    • @florenna
      @florenna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Haha, except that there weren't any hairdressers as such, everyone was their own hairdresser (the way I prefer it to be nowadays, too - who needs hairdressers?!) :D

    • @elisibethjames7488
      @elisibethjames7488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@florenna I think that they know; it’s a joke

    • @thesimplifestyle2022
      @thesimplifestyle2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      you know what? I'm going to be bold today, I want the braid!

    • @helema23
      @helema23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@florenna actually the women did each others hair...

    • @shirleybecker495
      @shirleybecker495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @That creepy family you're right and given the time period before 350BCE the wealthy had slaves that did everything for them.

  • @AbbyCox
    @AbbyCox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2141

    Morgan, "I'm getting weird." Me, "Yes, I am here for this, please continue." Morgan, "I had a manufacturer make hairpins for me." Me, "YES, YOU DID GET WEIRD AND THIS IS THE BEST WEIRD OF ALL TIME. HELL YES EXPERIMENTAL HAIR ARCHEOLOGY YES YES YES YES YES YES"

    • @sarahschmidt2782
      @sarahschmidt2782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I 👏🏻 am 👏🏻 here 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 weird👏🏻 🙌🏻 💕😁

    • @nobody1k
      @nobody1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yessss! Bring on the weird! Love!

    • @januzzell8631
      @januzzell8631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Weird is good! Researched weird is even better :D

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm so here for this :D
      My wierdness has been browsing old metOffice data, it just makes me so happy seeing the weather changing over time and seeing people's notes about what the weather was doing. It's kinda calming. Like the weather is the one thing that will always be there, no matter how crazy the world.

    • @catzkeet4860
      @catzkeet4860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is weird??......ok.......(oh and Janets TH-cam page is very cool. The styles are so interesting, particularly the information about hair sewing)

  • @Kinzichi
    @Kinzichi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1612

    For a second when you said "I couldn't find anywhere that sells them."
    My monkey brain jumped to 'Ah, yes. Grave robbery.'

  • @hellformichelle
    @hellformichelle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I'm an archaeology student at the university of Vienna, and I've actually had the pleasure to look at many of these grave goods irl. I'm so excited about this video.
    Side note: I'm pretty certain that these pins weren't a day to day thing, since women were actively working in the salt mines (we can see that from marks on the skeletons from the grave field) as the people who carried the 'backpacks' (also very interesting to google since we have some amazingly preserved ones) full of ore out of the mine, but to my knowledge, we don't know of hairpins or the spirals found in the mines, and they seem to be something that at least from time to time would be lost on the way out of a dark cave. So yeah, I feel like they're more of a special occasion thing.

    • @aliciaolivas797
      @aliciaolivas797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Interesting. I think that ribbon was probably used to tie the ends of the hair or possibly hair stick like pins made from wood for bringing the hair up. More than likely is they probably had their hair tucked into a snug cap to keep their hair clean. Who knows, but it’s always interesting to theorize about.

    • @KelseyDrummer
      @KelseyDrummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's really cool. Thanks for commenting! :)

    • @riverjohnson6024
      @riverjohnson6024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think maybe too the pins were used in a way that was both functional and decorative. Sort of evenly placed around the head with the tops of the pins showing instead of unevenly placed for only functionality. It would explain why some had so many in the grave when about 8 would be more than enough to hold the hair?

    • @JK-vi9gd
      @JK-vi9gd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe for poorer people they were made out of wood and are not preserved today? The hair must have been kept up somehow for working and keeping it clean.

    • @fuzzytheduck
      @fuzzytheduck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you think they were purely funerary or the women were buried in their formal wear?

  • @Miss65boo
    @Miss65boo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    The heads of the pins become a beautiful addition to the hairstyles, unlike the double pin which just disappears. Very nice! Would love to have pins like those.

    • @katrina2931
      @katrina2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking the same.

    • @Iera_Thaumaturgy
      @Iera_Thaumaturgy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same, they’re lovely

    • @Rockieswoobie
      @Rockieswoobie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @aliciacuoco8273
      @aliciacuoco8273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto. As di I

    • @THandP_org
      @THandP_org 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I have collections of various hair sticks, after taking Mandarin in high school (decades ago). My teacher taught history in addition to language, and if memory serves, hair stick usage and design peaked in the Song Dynasty, but date all the way back to 3000 BC😳
      Design, and how they were worn, indicated class, age, and marital status or availability.
      Royal women could be punished by having their hair sticks taken away, and married couples would break the "double stick" or Lover's Hair Stick if they had to be separated for any length of time, and then put the pieces together when finally reunited.
      Some hair sticks were worn to enhance proper posture, and coming of age ceremonies were "stick ceremonies" and a girl was gifted her first pair of hair sticks to become a woman.
      I love studying various cultures via the lens of hair...
      Lots of history in the Nations of the Southwest regarding hair, as well.

  • @kathleenwest1463
    @kathleenwest1463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1855

    Spoiler: The ancient women totally called their spiral 'doodleydoo'. Is the authentic term.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

      It is Known. 👌

    • @Mrkva22296
      @Mrkva22296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      which ancient women? which geographical area and what language? because apparently, not all "ancient women"

    • @swamp6825
      @swamp6825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Slovak Vids I cant tell if you’re serious but Kathleen was joking

    • @graceignacio306
      @graceignacio306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Whatever it is called. I want one haha

    • @galthea
      @galthea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@graceignacio306 there are some again in her etsy shop right now!

  • @stellaengel1338
    @stellaengel1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    Just imagine 3000 years from now some futuristic version of Morgan analyzing our hair ties, brushes, scrunchies, and butterfly clips

    • @themombat1193
      @themombat1193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Please don't bury me with a scrunchy!

    • @merionesunguiculatus6049
      @merionesunguiculatus6049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themombat1193 😂

    • @BlackjackaandHookers
      @BlackjackaandHookers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      "Today we're going to explore how people secured their hair before Hair Lasers."

    • @evie402
      @evie402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Istg if someone buries me with a scrunchie I'll rise from the dead just to strangle them.

    • @nb1571
      @nb1571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if they take it off my body- I won’t be happy

  • @adorabell4253
    @adorabell4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +793

    I can explain the popularity of the centre part: it's the most comfortable with long hair! Hair is heavy, so having it part in the middle puts less stress on the top of the head as both sides fall evenly instead of one side needing to go over the head and have the hair pull that bit of scalp up. Plus, more hairstyles are possible.

    • @windyhawthorn7387
      @windyhawthorn7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That makes sense. I have had an center part my whole life. And if I try to move it or brush it out It hurts.

    • @emilychb6621
      @emilychb6621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But if the pony tail is in the centers wouldn't the hair all just go back as well?
      Like I just brush the hair all over straight back and then tie it.
      There's no central gap where you can see the scalp, but the hair are still mostly parallel.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@emilychb6621 It might work if you always did that but I feel like it would only work for a high pony tail or braid. I'm not sure, though, since I have always had a part so I can't test it, my hair will just want to fall sideways.
      What's interesting is that I've recently chopped my hair off into a bob and changed the part. It took a few days for it to settle down and even after it kept migrating back towards the centre. I've had to re-do the part a few times.

    • @carolilseanne2175
      @carolilseanne2175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Easier when it's long to do 2 halves of hair than one - you don't have your arms up so uncomfortably! 😊😊

    • @J0k394
      @J0k394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hm. Uneven split braids are uncomfortable, but for a ponytail or single braid straight back puts least pressure on my hair.

  • @therealbunnymix
    @therealbunnymix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    The second hair style had me thinking, did they have hair nets at the time? Because I can see a decorative hair net being used to keep the bun in place. Like a round or square crocheted net that's a little bigger than the bun would be. Because it was made of natural fibers it wouldn't have survived in the grave.

    • @bustedkeaton
      @bustedkeaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Yea of course! Even in ancient greek times they used hairnet/snoods called sakkos. Crispines i think are what they called them in western europe in the 14th c? I was talking about this with my wife last night, and I suggest the ones that people recreate as metal cages over the hair were actually beaded wire, or even just gilded thread.

    • @libbybollinger5901
      @libbybollinger5901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The Venus of Brassempouy, which is an ivory figurine from the Paleolothic, has been argued to represent a hairnet-type hood, and the Skrydstrup woman, a bog body from roughly 1300 BC featured a sprang (the technique) horse-hair hairnet covering her hairstyle. The Egtved Girl, a bog body estimated to be from 1370 BC, was also found with a box that contained a hairnet.

    • @corvuscorone7735
      @corvuscorone7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@libbybollinger5901 I was just going to say that sprang nets were a definite thing :D

    • @bonniehowell6604
      @bonniehowell6604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like a snood, used in Victorian days.

  • @LisaJPStuff
    @LisaJPStuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    As a person who went off to study archaeology for 4 years, specifically because I was obsessed with the Celts from Halstatt to late La Tene, I love you. Thanks for doing this.

  • @emilyjanet455
    @emilyjanet455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1483

    Morgan: "Graves are the COOLEST THING"
    Me: Morgan Donner x Caitlin Doughty Historical Fashion in Graves collab????

    • @sunriseeyes0
      @sunriseeyes0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      OMG YES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!!!

    • @nicoalbarn
      @nicoalbarn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

    • @Anna-Michelle744
      @Anna-Michelle744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      More likes for this, it must be seen

    • @4492
      @4492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ooooooooh!!!! Yes please!

    • @kimberly_erin
      @kimberly_erin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yessssssssss

  • @hotjanuary
    @hotjanuary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    Morgan, you are a fashion influencer. I want those pins now.

  • @agcons
    @agcons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    Metals that oxidise often come with a protective coating applied by the manufacurer, which is meant to be removed by the final customer. I don't know about brass hair pins, but steel cookware almost always has a heavy waxy coating applied to keep the utensil in good shape during shipping and storage.

    • @kaylat.9104
      @kaylat.9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      This! Especially since the tarnish on brass/bronze is green and stains nicely. Hehehe

    • @Musicwarmsmysoul
      @Musicwarmsmysoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thanks for doing this. I honestly would have thought that the spring/spiral would have been a place to secure your pin ends when it's in a bun, but that wasn't what they found and you showed why. I wonder if there are examples at blacksmith shops of the same age of tools that could be used to manipulate wire quickly and easily into the spiral shapes and/or casting the pins: I can imagine ancient smithys making these out of left over bits of bronze and selling them on a little display a la scrunchies made out of quilting scraps and sold in a little display at the side of a table at a craft fair! Love the skewer pin idea. :)

    • @simplyvince1744
      @simplyvince1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was about to comment something similar. I purchased some aluminum wire (14 gauge? 12? On the heavier side anyway, something you don't usually find at craft stores) at a hardware store a few years ago and it came coated in some sort of black greasy substance. I suppose because aluminum is one of the metals that oxidizes the quickest (aluminum oxide just happens to be the same color so it isn't noticable visually) but maybe just something to do with the machines making it.

    • @Desi-qw9fc
      @Desi-qw9fc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You’re probably right because the coating just came off with soap and a towel (it looks like), but coatings could be deliberate too. Lots of blacksmithed items were rubbed with oil while still hot, which makes the oil soak into the oxide layer. The final object isn’t oily, but is protected from rust and handling. The same process is used these days, like you cold-blue an item to form the oxide layer and then rub it with oil. Stuff that isn’t protected like this can rust in annoying ways, like your fingerprints can rust into the surface.

  • @thesolocreative3538
    @thesolocreative3538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I legit would pay for the recreation ones though... the styling is amazing and would look so good in bridal hair with the almost stud look on completion.

  • @lisasternenkind6467
    @lisasternenkind6467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Here are some of my ideas, not so many though (sorry):
    What if they wrapped the end braided hair sort of around the coil you made, instead of pulling their end of the hair through the whole coil? Hallstatt in Austria is known for a huge Celtic settlement over a very long period of time. I am Austrian and have dug into this old culture when I was still living close to Hallstatt. These people also did almost everything by incorporating salt. They even made ice using salt. So it could also be possible, that women from those days used salt dissolved in water to kind of thicken their hair or prepare the hair for better use with these pins and the coil. Salt crystals behave similar to sugar crystals when dry and hard.
    Or maybe the coil was more a cultural or a decorating object with only a little functional use as a tool? We must not forget, that the Hallstatt Celts were extremely rich due to their salt. Their society was a thriving society, that also brought up lots of arts and many more cultural objects. Because of the salt they had many contacts to other people and so we maybe also need to have a closer look at how the Germanic women wore their hair in those days. We also know, that salt and gold from the celts in Hallstatt were found in the north, also in graves. They must have influenced one another also concerning their styles. Are there similar findings in the north of Europe? I read recently, that again new graves and also rune stones were found.

    • @iHadSomethingForThis
      @iHadSomethingForThis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This deserves a lot more likes than the one I can give

    • @ashleyduckworthyt3224
      @ashleyduckworthyt3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree about the coil thing. In MY brain, they would’ve pulled the end of the braid through the end like she did but then wrap the end sticking out around the coil.

    • @lisasternenkind6467
      @lisasternenkind6467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashleyduckworthyt3224 Right

    • @HosCreates
      @HosCreates ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in aloe growing places it make excellent gell, in other places some gelatinous seeds like flax and can be turned into gell too, not to mention grease with perfume = pomade then use a fine flouer as oil absorber and viola stiff hair !

  • @DodiTov
    @DodiTov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    As a hairdresser in the late 60s and mid 70s, when you said criss cross pins, I immediately thought of the placement in a classic French twist. We would place one pin at an angle downward, then pin very near in an upward slant. This would lock the pins in the hair and they would NOT come out. While you worked with braids exclusively, I would think that a simple twisted hair coil would have been entirely possible with the pins securing it up the center of the head, rather like a hot dog bun. Stupid visual, but you get the idea.

    • @TempestPhaedra
      @TempestPhaedra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      definitely going to try crossing my pins like that next time I attempt a french twist. It's my favorite style but I gotta do it over and over until it finally holds because I haven't figured out optimal placement yet

    • @user-dg7st6io1c
      @user-dg7st6io1c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TempestPhaedra My wife use a hair rat for her French twist, it helps with her thin hair she said. Maybe it might help you too.

    • @m.maclellan7147
      @m.maclellan7147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My hair is thick and heavy. To do any updo my hair needs to be damp and twisted.

    • @pauletier62
      @pauletier62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I am a trained hairdresser and the crossing-the-pins is like the most mandatory thing about bridal updos. :D

    • @debraadkins-brown399
      @debraadkins-brown399 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

  • @LacrimaPhoenix
    @LacrimaPhoenix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    For my wedding, I wanted to add pearls to my hair.
    All the modern options (spirals and U-Pins with pearls) didn't quite do the trick for me, because I couldn't quite control were the pearls would finally end up in my hairstyle, because the pearl would be sunken in to the hair. On the other hand, if the position of the pearl was perfect, often parts of the pin or the spiral would peak out and who wants that in their wedding hair...
    So I resorted to the simple long, single pin presented here. I got a bunch of pearled ones from a flower shop where they are often used for bouquets and such things. They were super cheap and work amazingly well! Might also be an option if someone wants to give it a try :)
    If I wanna look festive, I use these pins and find them so easy and secure to use :)

    • @imasinnerimasaint
      @imasinnerimasaint 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's a great idea!

    • @teresaellis7062
      @teresaellis7062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oooh, I will see if the local flower shop has some! I don't usually wear jewelry, but I like your idea.

    • @riverkoi8707
      @riverkoi8707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is such a good idea omg!

    • @KelseyDrummer
      @KelseyDrummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used those spiral pearls in my grad hair and I felt they were too sunk in. I may hunt down those floral ones! Just for fun though because I don't go to fancy places lol

    • @LacrimaPhoenix
      @LacrimaPhoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KelseyDrummer Never too late to have a fancy trick up your sleeve. Who knows what they might be good for :)

  • @dragonfireartistea
    @dragonfireartistea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    "They're still able to... Pierce the Veil"
    Me: *flashbacks to emo/rock phase*

    • @amastyn_1106
      @amastyn_1106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I'm glad I'm not the only who thought of that lol

    • @sarahlabbe9779
      @sarahlabbe9779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I came here for that exactly

    • @Betsyschugar
      @Betsyschugar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      the remnants of my thirteen year old self JERKED to attention

    • @rockz_in_a_box1841
      @rockz_in_a_box1841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Me, an alt kid: *literally chokes*

    • @ari6631
      @ari6631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg same

  • @amberm2777
    @amberm2777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    So I am a metal smith and I am super excited to forge some of these items! I've been trying to make historical items like fibula and penannular Broochs, roman style rings and slide pins, now I can add these to my list!

    • @beemel5734
      @beemel5734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have an etsy page, perchance? I've been searching for some nice looking braid/plait fasteners, like the coil one she has here, but they either have no hole at the end of the tip for a bit of braid end to come out, or they aren't tapered at all, rather designed for adorning locs. Which...I'm white, so I don't feel comfy about that, lol
      And also, I'm afraid that my hair texture, while still thick and curly, is a little too fine to hold up a thick iron coil, as I've seen in some shops.
      I'm trying to get away from using elastics because I've heard they're not the greatest for healthy curls, plus I'd like to imbue my beauty routines with a bit more of the culture of my various peoples. Being largely of Scottish and Danish ancestry (and knowing how much the Celts and Vikings LOVED self adornment) I feel like this would be the perfect fit for hair like mine, since it's probably pretty similar to hair textures they would've had (def in Scotland)!
      Let me know if you do have a shop anywhere online, and if you've made any braid fasteners like the ones shown in the vid! I'd be happy to give them a whirl!

    • @infamyinfamy
      @infamyinfamy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beemel5734 me too I'd love the coils to wear on the ends of my plaits.

    • @garnettekken
      @garnettekken 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would also like to know if you have a shop as my hair is now long enough that i wear it in two braids

  • @teeedmonds8630
    @teeedmonds8630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    As an archaeologist this pleases me greatly :D what you were saying about context (are these everyday styles/pins? Special occasion? or even purely for burial?) is so KEY in every archaeological site and its associated artefacts and features. Thoroughly enjoyed your experimental archaeology jaunt! :D

  • @Celebrinthal
    @Celebrinthal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    The other day I had my husband buy salt. When he brought it home I glanced at the package and exclaimed with delight: "You bought period accurate salt!" Yes, the salt mines in Hallstatt still operate today ;) Fantastic video! These pins and spiral look so good in a bun, omg, I need them (and your thickness of hair to be able to use them)

    • @melanieg.9092
      @melanieg.9092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As an Austrian from the area we usually go there on grade school trips and this salt is in nearly every home ;)

  • @chaostiverdant6196
    @chaostiverdant6196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    I love how Punk the heads of the pins look. Jumping on the alternate use method for the coil: If the top spirals are pulled apart a little it could be screwed into the braid along the length of the braid. Super secure; I use modern hair screws like this.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Very true! It reminds me very much of modern spin pins. The extant ones are all a bit too tightly coiled for that though, so I wanted to try it as the research suggested. It would be fun to try it again with loser coils though!

    • @prosie1968
      @prosie1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I thought something similar like sliding the hair perpendicular to the spiral then you could role up the hair and weave the pin behind. Sort of like a French twist.

    • @katherinemargeson8082
      @katherinemargeson8082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A looser coil also works as a kind of screw to hold a bun or updos in place like the modern spin pin

    • @birdyfeederz7940
      @birdyfeederz7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katherinemargeson8082 spin pins are the only ones that hold on my hair. I'm interested to try a wire spiral to tie the end

  • @tarabound
    @tarabound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    I want to point out the
    painstaking process the archaeologist put in to bring you that information. Admire the excavation work that brought you the exact configuration of these really tiny pins in situ. The archaeologist had to kneel with a trowel, and probably a dental pick, to slowly uncover each of these pins without moving them so they could see exactly how they were positioned.
    Not only were they photographed, then they were drawn in the excavation to make sure it was all captured correctly (making assumptions) I have looked at the article, but I haven't read a translation yet, but there were a lot of great diagrams.
    I also want to bring this PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE: Context is fundamental. Artifacts out of context are pretty---pretty damn useless. Looters are monsters. If they had found this site before trained scientists, all of this would have been lost. To repeat: artifact thieves are monsters.
    (I LOVE THAT YOU HAD THESE PINS MADE---THAT IS SO COOL)

    • @tracynail4432
      @tracynail4432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Absolutely they are! When I was hiking in Arizona (can’t remember where) we had to call a number and report our location and our find, and sit and wait for them to show up, if we found anything at all artifacty. If it wasn’t anything worth while, you could potentially keep it. I have a piece of clay with a cross on it, about the size of my thumb. Most of the time, we had to turn things over.

    • @drhelenloney1426
      @drhelenloney1426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      yes, the care and time it took to excavate the Hallstadt graves in the 19th century was astonishing. Metal detecting, sorry folks, would have removed these without even realizing they were attached to a person, nine times out of ten. See what careful excavation brings you?

    • @athenadominguezcastillo2752
      @athenadominguezcastillo2752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since they were metals could they have scanned the area with slight radiation first and found the metal in the pins, figured out their placement, and then carefully and painstakingly pulled them out?

    • @tarabound
      @tarabound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@athenadominguezcastillo2752 ​
      I don't know if the technology is able to have that detailed a view. The majority of work we do is with ground penetrating radar, it can give us ideas for large things, but nothing small. Even when we do have the GPR, we can't see anything while we are there. It has to be taken back to a strong computer and each bit of the image has to be compiled.
      A second problem is, even if technology that is able to pinpoint such small objects is available, most archaeologists do not have the budget to have access to that equipment.
      Usually, the old fashion way is the only way.
      That being said, we do have some really cool equipment we can use sometimes. Laser scanning the environment can give us some really cool 3D images that we can virtually walk through later, the GPR I mentioned lets us know if an area contains structures or burials (we are currently using the GPR here in Florida to look for disappeared Historical Black cemeteries--to help correct racist injustices of the past), we have photogrametery (in which we can take a bunch of pictures of an artifact and then print a 3d copy of it from those pictures).
      Ok, i will stop now.....can't tell I love this stuff, can you?

    • @drhelenloney1426
      @drhelenloney1426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ares Dominguez Castillo not really, because the technology doesn’t yet allow 3D reconstruction at the same fine detail as by habd

  • @josequins9099
    @josequins9099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The pins and spiral look so pretty together in dark hair.

  • @libraryoflilylol199
    @libraryoflilylol199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I've done the spiral doodleydoo thing on my hair before and it held all day (and my hair is so thin and soft everything falls out if it isn't good and secure). It especially stays if you wet your hair first, push it up as far as it goes, and let it expand as it dries.

    • @djking7942
      @djking7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Spiral Doodleydoo is going into my personal lexicon of official hair terms!

  • @Ghostofthegallow
    @Ghostofthegallow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    "you can't pin through the ear"
    Me. With multiple piercings: is that a challenge

    • @amyjones2490
      @amyjones2490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Maybe thats how ear piercing started. A misplaced hair pin.

    • @nicoalbarn
      @nicoalbarn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@amyjones2490 that sounds like something I would do (I'm very clumsy)

    • @athenadominguezcastillo2752
      @athenadominguezcastillo2752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is hilarious, I'm surprised she didn't see this and like it XD

    • @GamerNerdess
      @GamerNerdess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Why did I read that in the voice of Mufasa? 🤣

    • @djterry1218
      @djterry1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GamerNerdess hahahah😂😂😂 mUfasA likEs GrAvEs

  • @GymGirl88
    @GymGirl88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    "I might be getting a little bit weird" 🤣🤣🤣 we love academia!
    Edited: you should totally send this video to Karina (the paper author) as an academic I am 100% sure she would love to watch this video and see you experimenting with her research!

    • @gabriellerussell8484
      @gabriellerussell8484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I second this! There’s not a single academic I know that wouldn’t adore seeing their research in action this way.

    • @maleahlock
      @maleahlock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This!!!!

    • @sfowler1017
      @sfowler1017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That was my first thought! Definitely send it to her.

    • @scarletpimpernelagain9124
      @scarletpimpernelagain9124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes, don’t be shy about it, the dissemination of information is important.

    • @beth_winegarner
      @beth_winegarner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YES!!

  • @RavenAttwoode
    @RavenAttwoode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Lol! Mandatory head shake for long hair updos 😄 I really like those pins. This was a really fun video/hair/experiment!

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      One must shake one's head about to establish the viability of the bun. *shake shake shake*

    • @Olson185
      @Olson185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MorganDonner Disco trauma flashback with KC & the Sunshine Band, ugh!

    • @TheHopeDreier
      @TheHopeDreier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Untraumatised flashback to disco, which was a whole lot of fun, back in the day.

    • @RavenAttwoode
      @RavenAttwoode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know all too well the necessity of the shake! My hair is past my waist and I have to do this any time I put my hair up too. 😁

    • @juliemiller9258
      @juliemiller9258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      hair shakes were mandatory before ballet class. Not good to have your hair escape and ruin the line of your body. lol

  • @kahldrialeighsun1208
    @kahldrialeighsun1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Just a pro tip when working with soft/precious wire and you don't have any soft jaw pliers, you can put a bit of masking tape over the jaws to protect your wire from dents and scratches.
    If you want to get fancy some scrap leather booties, or whatever soft thick material you've got also works, and is worth doing if you're going to use this technique often.
    I wish I had friends like you. I could imagine some fun creative times bonding and trading tips 😍🌹🌿

  • @msxy9594
    @msxy9594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The "buns over the ears look" has also a practical reason, as it would have keept the ears warm in winter..

  • @bibliophilecb
    @bibliophilecb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I’m so glad I’m not the only person who does the “steal from another section when one braid section is insufficient” technique!

  • @OtakuSamy
    @OtakuSamy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    I love how for the whole vid you were so doubtful of single pins, and i'm over here remembering how for most of middle school and high school I would wear my hair in a bun with a single chopstick or two XD

    • @RhiannonAgutter
      @RhiannonAgutter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I rarely wear my hair up but when I do it’s usually thrown up in a messy bun when I get sick of it at work and it’s never secured by more than a single pencil. Single pins can definitely be secure if you know how to use them.

    • @bookmouse2719
      @bookmouse2719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      We wore this in the late 60s, or even with a switch of leather + wooden stick

    • @Zeraphei
      @Zeraphei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or pencil 👍🏻

    • @Celestial.moon.
      @Celestial.moon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I'm in the field I'll use pencils to hold in a bun if I got too hot. Single pins ftw

    • @bustedkeaton
      @bustedkeaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its easier or harder to hold a style with straight pins/bodkins depending on the texture of your hair

  • @KelseyDrummer
    @KelseyDrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Honestly those spirals look like those door spring thingies I used to twang when I was a kid.

    • @snuassauns
      @snuassauns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes. I was watching her make them and thinking that I would go to the hardware store and adapt one.

    • @h.borter5367
      @h.borter5367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Door stops😃

    • @carolilseanne2175
      @carolilseanne2175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      YES!!!! I knew they reminded me of something! 🤣🤣

    • @melanyacraven5011
      @melanyacraven5011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As...as a kid? We're supposed to stop?? 👁👄👁oh no...🤦‍♀️

    • @wrenchwren7166
      @wrenchwren7166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The spring inside old curlers that had plastic mesh covering. Plastic pin to hold rollers in place.

  • @debraadkins-brown399
    @debraadkins-brown399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I worked as a nurse for many years. Frequently I would run into work at the last moment before report with my hair unpinned. Sometimes I would braid it quickly but other times I would just twist it up. Then I would weave a pencil through my hair and it would be up for the shift. No elastic needed. My hair was not quite as heavy as yours but still thick.

  • @j.b.4340
    @j.b.4340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have a few (damaged) Romano/British bronze pins in my collection. I see now that they are hair pins. Thank you. It was a great video. I enjoy experimental archaeology.

    • @Rose-jz6sx
      @Rose-jz6sx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They might not be hair pins, speaking as a seamstress pins were the same general style regardless of use for most of history.

  • @louisesteele2295
    @louisesteele2295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    As an archaeologist this made me so thrilled to watch! Absolutely love this idea and the use of archaeology papers to learn about ancient hairstyling. So so so cool

  • @Rotten_Ralph
    @Rotten_Ralph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I’m in for bog body hair styles... grave hair sounds fantastic
    Edit: love Janet Stephens
    Put one of the pins inside the spiral and it will stay better... I’ve done that for years

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I did play with that and it totally does help! (And I love Janet Stephens so much!!! ❤)

    • @MusesWhim
      @MusesWhim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I personally really enjoy when my hair tutorial starts by talking about corpses. Have you watched Silvousplait's videos? th-cam.com/video/Jj1mPtlmTZU/w-d-xo.html

  • @JustSaralius
    @JustSaralius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    If you ever need a cosplay look, you have the perfect medieval Princess Leia with that white wool dress and the buns! :D

    • @klallamcedar0099
      @klallamcedar0099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have you seen Rachel do it? She just did a video for leia.

    • @MsSteelphoenix
      @MsSteelphoenix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I second the Medieval Princess Leia cosplay!

  • @ShortButDeadly89
    @ShortButDeadly89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I actually use something very similar(the spiral) in my braids. I know that i’ve seen a lot of pictures of ancient African women wearing it and other beautiful “hair jewelry”

  • @angryhistoryguy5657
    @angryhistoryguy5657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I cackled when you mentioned Janet Stephens. A few years ago at my friends' holiday party we busted out her channel and gave everyone ancient hairstyles and it was one of our better nerd crew moments. Alas, my hair was too short at the time to participate, but now I want to try some of these!

  • @Marialla.
    @Marialla. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I noticed all of the grave positions of pins (the inspiration for each hairstyle) included at least one or two places where pins were crossed. You didn't mention crossing pins in this video, but it seems it might have been intentional, as a way to reinforce a spot to be extra secure, rather than just "they fell that way". Maybe the crossed spot was a main anchor point, or maybe it was a starting or ending point for anchoring the whole style?
    Also, in at least one photo there was a pin inside a spiral, so I'm wondering if that was used like a wedge to secure the hair tightly in the spiral. And that makes me wonder if the spiral might sometimes have been left dangling loose as a decorative/moving element, so they had to be extra careful to wedge it so as not to lose it?
    Also, being a spiral, it seems logical the little end of the hair might have been passed between the loops somewhere, not just wrapped by them, for security. I'm imagining that metal was less easy to come by way back then and they would not have been at all okay with it maybe falling out at any time.
    Finally, whether or not it is tomb-accurate, your eyepins at the end are just begging to be embellished with dangly beads and bits to add some action and drama to the hairstyle! I would love love love to see you try that!

    • @Riot_Bird
      @Riot_Bird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I had the same thought about the eye pins, they reminded me a lot of the pins used in ancient China and Japan that had all the gems a tassels hanging off of them

    • @therebelqueen3
      @therebelqueen3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I second your thoughts for the crossed pins! Especially considering crossed pins are still standard for good hold when using Bobby pins and modern hair sticks as well.

  • @TheEliseRodgers
    @TheEliseRodgers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Morgan: We thought she was ~400 years old, turns out that she might be ~ thousands of years old. Also can’t stand sunlight.... Is ancient vampire?!?

  • @laniwiens6574
    @laniwiens6574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +503

    The size of the those pins could totally be used as a weapon...just saying. An ancient woman's arsenal

    • @Meg_of_all_threads
      @Meg_of_all_threads 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      In the Edwardian time, hat pin was used as such. Laws even come into place to make sure hat pin wasn't too long and self defense tricks and how too was teach so women could use self defense. 👍

    • @zoeyb
      @zoeyb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Technically you could still have a hat pin. Helps on public transit. So I’ve read.

    • @lilacpen8678
      @lilacpen8678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I mean, hair pins, hat pins, and certain styles of broaches have all been used in female self defense historically.

    • @LordofFullmetal
      @LordofFullmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I don't know if this was intentional or not. If it wasn't - in the Edwardian era, women actually did exactly that to stop r-pists. Aaaand instead of addressing the fact that society had a r-pe problem, the government responded by banning hat pins above a certain size - because apparently women were the problem for defending themselves.
      Sigh. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    • @Torqueware
      @Torqueware 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@LordofFullmetal yeah it's really unfortunate that other societies don't allow their citizens to own firearms.
      Ladies, if you feel unsafe in America, buy a gun. A Cz 75 is the perfect companion for the modern woman. Protect yourself - you're worth it!

  • @mayk6932
    @mayk6932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I see the little ring at the end of the home made pins and I say: RIBBONS!

  • @hasumeokaasan6533
    @hasumeokaasan6533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I just wanted to say thank you on a near spiritual layer. I was absolutely engaged right up until minute 29, where i found myself tearing up. Rest in peace, Princess Leia, Rebel Leader. We always knew you were born, a long long time ago, and a world away from our modern aesthetic. Thank you, Morgan, and bless you. This was absolute magic, through and through.

  • @murrvvmurr
    @murrvvmurr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Hey kids! The y in ye olde tavern is the letter thorne and pronounced th as usual. Back in the day they visually distinguished between the th in father (voiced) and with (unvoiced )

    • @lorrainemunoa791
      @lorrainemunoa791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is true! THough any time you hear someone use "Ye Olde" as an adjective, they may also be referring to a thing in the reenactment and modelmaking and set dressing circles, where we use that as a way to describe "The General public's idea of how things HAVE to be to look properly Old." And we say it "Ye Oldy" ie incorrectly, as a kind of nod to the idea that what the general public thinks is Historical is often not remotely historical. Making something look Ye Olde is making it look sufficiently battered, dirty, crude or 'primitive' to fit people's expectations.

  • @brierobb9879
    @brierobb9879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Try using a cord as a threading line, to pull the hair tips into the narrow coil. The narrow end of the coil will show a tidy fold of hair.
    Similar to head of a tassel, the tips will be tucked securely inside the coil.
    The threading cord will pull out , giving a very tidy end

    • @DannyJane.
      @DannyJane. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would dearly love to see this demonstrated.

    • @Smillaaraq
      @Smillaaraq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's exactly what I thought when I saw her trying to thread the ends through the spiral.

    • @Smillaaraq
      @Smillaaraq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DannyJane. it's pretty much like this technique using fine thread as a needle threader: frecklednest.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-thread-yarn-through-tiny-eye.html?m=1

    • @bonniebelair8470
      @bonniebelair8470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ohhh that example helps so much, thank you!

    • @DannyJane.
      @DannyJane. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Smillaaraq I am SO going to try this. It's brilliant. I have some beads I sometimes like to put in my hair. This will work great for that too!

  • @miriamparker9932
    @miriamparker9932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Years ago I stopped using these modern hair ties and clipps. My hair is natruly curly and would get tangled and I would be getting my hair out to take them out. So I desided to use chop stix I had to sand and paint them(nail polish is best) I put a bun on my head and then weave the stix useuly two some times more but they hold good . Love watching you recreate the old. We can all bring it back some how

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You made your own hair sticks! That's awesome!

    • @e.g.2261
      @e.g.2261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to do this constantly!

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a great idea!😯😄

    • @sharroon7574
      @sharroon7574 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to try something for half up stylrs there are some pretty silver slides on etsy.

    • @miriamparker9932
      @miriamparker9932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MorganDonner my sister is a jewelry crafter too. All three of us learned from our mothers and grandmothers . Best start our children young . Even my grandsons crochet and Cook. It's tridition around here

  • @mitsycat2803
    @mitsycat2803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video was so interesting. I love hair, costuming, vintage clothing... all of it. I grew up doing musical theater, so it kind of came with the territory. The genuine excitement in this video was awesome to see. Those pins, even the doolydoo, are so cool looking. They look like the hair charms that have been so popular lately. It amazes me how little hair products/techniques have changed. Yes, we have more these days, but the basics (braids, pins, something to hold the hair together, even curling, backcombing, and dry shampoo, pomade, etc.) have, for the most part, remained highly similar to what we did in the past. Makes me wonder if we have been constantly reinventing the wheel or if these things have been passed down and evolved. IDK, it is just fascinating. I went to Williamsburg with my family and watched a nail making demonstration by the blacksmith and those pins totally remind me of the nails. I know that the nails were meant to be functional, but they were beautiful. So many functional items were beautiful in the past. If you look at historical architecture, for example. Yes, there were purely decorative things like gingerbread, but if you look at things like gussets, gutters, support beams, etc. on historic buildings, they are just beautiful. However, what costs an exorbitant amount and is considered "custom" by today's standards, was much more normal back then. They made the simplest things with so much beauty. My dad is a 4th generation contractor specializing in historic restoration and metalwork. He builds houses the way they did 100 years ago. Goodness, he even maid our mailbox out of copper. It is an art form. Craftsmen of he past, even of something as simple as hair pins, were truly artists. In many cases the blend of form and function is amazing. Just look at the Eiffel Tower... Gussets galore. Or the silkscreen "propaganda" posters by Toulouse-Lautrec. They are amazing. I wish more things were made that way now, but it is a lot of work and a lot of time and, unfortunately in certain cases, a lot of money. All of which certainly explains why it is no longer the norm. People like you celebrate their creations. Lovely to see. My grandma was also a seamstress. We still have her sewing machine from the 50's, and it still works great. She taught me to sew and knit at 6. She would have loved this channel. Would have said you have style, and she would have absolutely been right. Thank you for keeping their artistry alive. You've convinced me to make some doolydoos lol.
    Side note, my mom is a manicurist (a lot of artisans in my family lol), and your nails always look great. The shape is prefect, you don't remove the sides too much. Many people go wrong there. Well done.

  • @GLGC688
    @GLGC688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The spiral things remind me of the doorstops that go "dooinngg" if you bump them.

  • @raym4064
    @raym4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    the slow turn around 9:45 was 1) lovely and 2) made me imagine how cute it would be to have lil hair pins painted like red and white mushrooms!! might not be historically accurate, but it would be stinkin' cute, as you say

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Aww, that would absolutely be stinkin' cute! I love it!

  • @emmalinalion4776
    @emmalinalion4776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The pin heads in the finished up dos look so cool, like studs

  • @victorialasher8161
    @victorialasher8161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love the reproduction pins, they are so pretty and decorative! These are actually like short hair sticks. I do my hair every day in a small bun, since my hair is very thin and fine, and often use a single hair stick used the way you describe of scooping the scalp hair. I find the hair sticks to be so much cooler in the Summer than an elastic. Now I want to try some variations.

  • @sylviakeatley4173
    @sylviakeatley4173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    When you said you'd forgotten water I thought why not just suck the hair ends, I imagine that's what really happened.

    • @Alice-gr1kb
      @Alice-gr1kb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah same

    • @LordofFullmetal
      @LordofFullmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because we can't cough up hair balls like cats can - if you get one, it has to be surgically removed.

    • @EspeonMistress00
      @EspeonMistress00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@LordofFullmetal But unlike a cat you can use your fingers and pull out any hair in your mouth without swallowing it.

  • @jacquelinehazari4012
    @jacquelinehazari4012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Those pins are actually really cute, loved the metal coils. I Love the decorative touches it gives. Wish they could brings things back, they're soooo much nicer than regular hair pins.

  • @ingridellis8237
    @ingridellis8237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love the way those pinheads sparkle in your hair.

  • @sarahblaickner4458
    @sarahblaickner4458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I live in Austria about an hour from Hallstadt and I had never heard of these graves before. So amazing. Similar hairstiles are still worn by older women (often with the help of a hairnet) or are worn for traditional gatherings to suit the traditional dresses called Tracht (or also the more modern Dirndl). Thank you for the great video!

  • @nicola.00
    @nicola.00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The spiral doodleydoo reminds me of “Hair Scroos” which were popular in the 90s - you’d literally screw in place and they work so well that you use less pins and grips

    • @bernadetteburgoyne8238
      @bernadetteburgoyne8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I still wear hair screws. My hair was as long as Morgan until I cut it to my neck before covid in September,, it had been cut twice in six months.
      I'm growing it out again and can make a pony and small plait.
      I would really love those pieces, I always keep long hair accessories and have single plastic ones or short chopsticks, metal sticks with Crystal decorations etc. I won't get rid because I love long hair.
      I have noticed that i have more hair than I had ten years ago as I have found that when I massage my hair on washing that I have new hair growth, it started creeping down the back of my neck and more around the top of my forehead and ears.
      I love Morgan and really wish that she would reproduce those pins. I would be willing to pay upfront!.

    • @flagerdevil
      @flagerdevil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are those scroos? I can't seem to get a hit on google.

    • @missbananabike5790
      @missbananabike5790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      90's?
      *touches bun being held in place with with 3 screw pins..
      I love these still now! Can't find them everywhere, but normal pins don't hold my hair like the screw pins do 🥰

    • @annapruitt5546
      @annapruitt5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@flagerdevil it popped up when I searched hair screws. Also seems to be called spin pins. It’s like a U-pin except instead of two straight lines, it’s two curled lines

    • @larenriedler821
      @larenriedler821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@flagerdevil Look for Spin Pins. You can get the brand name, which are a little longer so they stay better, or knock offs which are a little shorter.

  • @mandacole8703
    @mandacole8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was able to replicate this, in a way, at home with regular pins. I used jewelery pliers to straighten them out and twist the ends into small hooks. They are my favorite hair accessories! So easy to use and extremely comfortable.

  • @katrinalevin4064
    @katrinalevin4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for bringing the grave goods to life and demonstrating hair styles with them. Very interesting and fun to see the pins working. They are quite elegant.

  • @tinekejoldersma
    @tinekejoldersma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    In Norwegian style they loved the buns at the ears. Ones a year they celebrate national Norwegian day wearing costumes known to the region they live in and wear their hair traditional.( not nowadays when they let their hair hang lose) The crown hairstyle realy was worn with a wedding crown, these growns are stunning. ( and awfully heavy) While wearing daily cap style headwear the breads were done underneath at the back of the head. The Saami wore the traditional felted hats and in the cold north the fur hats so the hair was braided at the back and high up the head with pins. Weird thought it's only a hundred years ago people still would do their hair like that.

  • @j.whittingham5901
    @j.whittingham5901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is so, so cool! One of the things I love so much about TH-cam is finding fellow history nerds who also get excited by research papers. Keep being weird, Morgan, because your audience is totally happy to be weird right along with you!!

  • @januzzell8631
    @januzzell8631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Anyone else getting a wonderful wistful vibe while Morgan was braiding her hair in the garage - just wonderfully artful! - also, am loving the little brass points in your hair, they look really pretty

  • @nevem5010
    @nevem5010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These accessories and styles are all so gorgeous! 😍 I love the little spirals; they don't look obviously hair-related, to me, but then you put them on, and they just look so *right*.

  • @rishibeauty8889
    @rishibeauty8889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    since these were found in a grave, it makes sense that the wreath would hold the head in place & face forward. The braid would keep it from rolling to the side. I would imagine that they would use high quality metal such as gold to bury the person with. Meaning, this would be a special burial hair style rather than a day to day.

  • @FlybyStardancer
    @FlybyStardancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So cute! I love the crown style, and those ancient space buns are cute on you! And I love how the heads of the pins add a lovely decorative element to the hair. And the gown was rather appropriate for the Princess Leia buns! XD

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oooo, Medieval Princess Leia sounds like a fun outfit idea!

  • @Natalie-rj7uz
    @Natalie-rj7uz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    So when are you going to mass manufacture these pins and sell them? I'd buy some!

  • @hotjanuary
    @hotjanuary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The heads of the pins make your bun look like a fancy hairstyle to attend a wedding.

  • @adjjal
    @adjjal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I came here after your 500 years of hair video! You're so talented I love your historical vids, especially the hair and fashion ones, so glad I found your channel❤

  • @melissabarley5667
    @melissabarley5667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that the pins and the coil become a feature in the style. They add something decorative!

  • @scarletpimpernelagain9124
    @scarletpimpernelagain9124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Doobely doo will be henceforth be the OFFICIAL name for a collection of European Iron Age Hair Pins/Decorations as declared to the International Community via this Vlog/ Interweb and no, don’t argue, I insist. We need to have a commonality of language to deal with issues crucial to ‘ye Olde Costumes’. Incidentally Ye is just an 18th Century English contraction of ‘The’ - they didn’t actually say the word ‘Ye’ and spelled Old as Olde because before the Dr Samuel Johnson Dictionary people spelled English how they liked - and some of us still do. These, by the way, are the ravings of a self isolated, history nerd and should be taken as such.
    I like the ‘Drunken Princess Leah/loopy eared Spaniel’ ‘do plus Veil.
    I love Archaeological History re-enactments and get irritated by those who pooh pooh them as not real history. Seems to me that this is far more interesting than dry as bone Historians that tell you a lot about the history whilst losing sight of the humanity that made it.

  • @artofescapism
    @artofescapism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    fantastic video! i just finished my degree in bioarchaeology, so i do the same sort of stuff as in that paper (sort of, at least), but my favorite part of any study is being able to reconstruct the lives of the people we're studying, and learn how they lived! hair styles and jewelry are such a big part of that as well- i've always enjoyed Janet Stephens' work on hair style reproductions, but wish more of this would be done on more places and time periods. my area in Peru has fantastic preservation and many individuals are excavated with full heads of hair, and I would love to see how their hair styles look on a living person! loved this video!

    • @tiryaclearsong421
      @tiryaclearsong421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Silvousplaits did some ancient peruvian hairstyles.

  • @shroomyk
    @shroomyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Experimental archeology is so much fun. This was really cool. I find the really old stuff like Iron age and Bronze age things to be fascinating, because we only have so many clues about it.
    Also, you have some really pretty, thick hair. I'm so jealous.

  • @caylarivera2804
    @caylarivera2804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So interesting! I've never really thought about what people used to fasten the ends of their hair before rubber bands were available. I never figured it would be a wire spiral, so cool!

  • @miamandaric9596
    @miamandaric9596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Archaeology student here. Gurl, I have an exam in a few days about special burial costume/ dresses, jewlery and burials and this just makes me smile because I envision Iron Age people doing something simiral like this ☺☺. Also I need to go study 😂

  • @julieenslow5915
    @julieenslow5915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Morgan, if you needed to be able to trust the coil to hold it - take the hair coming out the end and put it between two coils near the bottom. Remembering that stone age man may not have cared if he grew his/her hair long. Just saying. Oh and you have to know - your hair is gorgeous, i love the pins and your styling!!

    • @AnnekeOosterink
      @AnnekeOosterink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's what I thought too, the hold would be very secure that way. They might even hide the ends inside the coil. Or twist the coil around a hair loop to hide the ends, a bit like those twisty hairpins you have to turn like a screw into a bun.

    • @Alltheshiny.reneeowens
      @Alltheshiny.reneeowens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      exactly. i was thinking the hair was probably folded at the end to secure the thinner bits and then the coil twisted into the loop that makes to secure it.

    • @brittanyk3923
      @brittanyk3923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is what I was thinking. thread them through the actual coils to anchor the bottom bit.

    • @vickierayhill4637
      @vickierayhill4637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I once had a hair decoration I bought at a Ren faire that was a very narrow spiral, but the coils were stretched lengthwise. The only way to get it on your hair was to wrap your tress around the coil. That was the first thing I inagined when I saw her spring/coil ornament.

    • @biancamitchell484
      @biancamitchell484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I came here to comment this as well, it was my first guess that you could pull the hair between the spiral to trap it. That said, I LOVE how gorgeous all the bronze looks in her hair! These kinds of fastening need to come back!

  • @ShannonLambert
    @ShannonLambert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1. 7:15 it's an aiglet for hair! 2. Those look like the roman pins from some time back

  • @Chibihugs
    @Chibihugs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Connecting to the past via hairstyles is such a fun bit of time travel. Nothing weird about learning strange history , so sayeth I (I am biased though as a teacher! Lol) PS- I love the new intro card! Gorgeous 👏🥰

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hair history is one of my favorite things! Thank you for being an awesome teacher and passing that love of learning onto the next generation :D

  • @annapancake
    @annapancake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as an archaeology student, to see you having an interest and playing with the Idea and research from Hallstatt, it was absoulty wonderful.

  • @KwaterbugBUTCHER
    @KwaterbugBUTCHER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of us are loving the entire journey you went into knowing the general start points towards hair styles , functions , readin the materials culminating the knowledge into having the idea commissioned

  • @lepmim1046
    @lepmim1046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Quick pronounciation correction: Hallstadt is pronounced "HallSHtadt" in German. ST is pronounced SHT.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Thank you for the info! It's a shame that I can't edit the video to fix it 😳

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Like...'get yo sht together'? 😉🤣😁

    • @alicecurtis9238
      @alicecurtis9238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bluenuttefly8813 Not necessarily. My German teacher said there were regional accents and St could be soft as in sht or hard as in St. The hard pronunciation was called spitzenstein or "sharp stones". So both pronunciations could be correct depending on where you came from.

    • @Leo-gu3dn
      @Leo-gu3dn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bluenuttefly8813 I think the town in question is actually Hallstatt (no dt) ;D If you look it up, there's actually a lot of archeological importance to it! So the "-statt" probably derives from something like "(Grab-)Stätte" = (grave) site 😄 it's still pronounced with "sht" though! (Kinda like "hull-shtutt")

    • @Leo-gu3dn
      @Leo-gu3dn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@alicecurtis9238 German here, you're right about the dialects! Although in "High German" as we call it (the attempt of a standardised/dialect free German, which is taught in school) the "sht"-pronunciation is considered correct :D
      Also in case you're interested: most dialects with the sharp pronunciation are those spoken in northern Germany as far as I know - seeing as Hallstatt is in Austria, where most dialects are closer to those in Bavaria (where I'm from), it's most likely pronounced with a "soft" sht sound even by the locals 😊
      (Sorry for the long text, like most Germans I get excited when someone is interested in our culture/language :D It's so cool that you've taken german language classes 🥰 )

  • @christabeljoy2443
    @christabeljoy2443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am loving the “medieval space bun” look I will totally experiment with that in my everyday hairstyles, because I’m weird I guess?

  • @hammy-on-a-bike
    @hammy-on-a-bike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love the wire wrap idea for the end of a braid!!! 100% going to try this on my normal Dutch braids because subtle iron age references are always cool! ...my friends also think I'm weird ;) bought a headband because it reminded me of a Tudor asthetic :)

  • @HASQ779
    @HASQ779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I wear my hair in a single braid every single day, and I MEAN every single day. I was MEANT for these hairstyles, if only I had iron age pins....

  • @moiken90
    @moiken90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The braid in a circle is my new favourite hairstyle 🤩 So simple, but it looks so complicated and cool.

  • @renaebettenhausen3611
    @renaebettenhausen3611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Actually, with the current era of Coronacation, and the mandate to wear a mask, there IS precedent for wearing a veil in modern times, ESPECIALLY if it can be drawn over the nose and mouth.
    About the hair pins: you could totally sell a line of "Dooblee doos" for securing hair and veils. I'd like some.

    • @caragarcia2307
      @caragarcia2307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn't realize veils were worn for my modesty until maybe late grade school. I just didn't realize the hair and face could be so scandelous. I just thought they kept hair out of food and protected the face from sun and frost. Women just hate damage to the face after all.

  • @brendafalk5162
    @brendafalk5162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing research. Loved the hairpins you had custom made, as well as your DIY alternatives. Your ease in handling your own lovely thick hair and constructing the hairstyles was amazing. Thanks for sharing.

  • @sammichbread
    @sammichbread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "[to the sun] could you Calm Down Please?"
    what a mood

  • @K1S7Z3
    @K1S7Z3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Morgan your vibes are entirely chill and I love how enthusiastic you are about grave goods! Incredible! If I hadn't just gotten a chin-length bob I would try these out for myself!

  • @lunafrijol
    @lunafrijol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you so much for the great article link! I love this kind of stuff. I'm also a metalsmith and though I do already make metal modern hairsticks, I'm wanting to make smaller pins to experiment with.

    • @garnettekken
      @garnettekken 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have a shop i’d love to buy some. I use mainly hair pins to secure my crown braids

  • @kaiabea280
    @kaiabea280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Omg I work mostly with Bronze Age-1066 stuffs this is so so up my ally omg I’m so excited.
    I literally do bog-body hair 😂
    Thank you so much!!!

    • @MrsRetroRed
      @MrsRetroRed 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think that perhaps the pins are suppose to go into the coil? It would give added support and hold the pins securely

  • @kimropp3696
    @kimropp3696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's really interesting to look at these styles and see how well they can work even today (though I, also, might be a little "weird"). There seems to be an idea that our ancient ancestors would be so unrecognizable to us as modern people. These are the kinds of things that seem to bridge that vast expanse of time. Thanks, Morgan!

  • @AquaMoonMaiden
    @AquaMoonMaiden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Am I the only one who wants to know who she commissioned her pins from, so I can get a set?

    • @rsearls5064
      @rsearls5064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are not the only one! Do want! 8D

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am exited about the local makerspace opening up again and finding someone with the appropriate skill set

    • @bernadetteburgoyne8238
      @bernadetteburgoyne8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      AquaMoonMaiden me too, aren't they beautiful. I can't wait for my hair to grow back. I cut it up to my neck in September and cut it again in January. It's now laying on my shoulders. It was past my bottom when I cut it.xx

    • @PacakeQueen
      @PacakeQueen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!

    • @agypsycircle
      @agypsycircle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely!

  • @stephanieruggles7783
    @stephanieruggles7783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite medieval knowledge youtuber lady has uploaded again. Thx for this Morgan. Very interesting, educative and entertaining. Please stay healthy and take care. Greetings from Germany.

  • @dr.lexwinter8604
    @dr.lexwinter8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The design is quite telling. If you grasp the spring on both ends (someone has to do this for you, it's impossible to do yourself) and twist it outwardly the spring will expand allowing you to slide it much further up the hair, releasing it will then clamp it in place.

  • @macstabby_j
    @macstabby_j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did archaeology in my undergrad and I still remember a mnemonic about Hallstatt- "The hills are alive with the sounds of salt mining at Hallstatt" haha. I don't remember why it works so well but here at am, 15+ years later, remembering Hallstatt did salt mining. Great video!

  • @inerlogic
    @inerlogic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    0:14 "i might be getting a little bit weird"
    Duh.... that's probably 80% of why i follow you... :)

  • @madeleinedarnoco5190
    @madeleinedarnoco5190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your expression when twirling your head with the second updo is just so delightful :)

  • @MargotBarat
    @MargotBarat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey ! I've studied archaeology and during one experimental archaeology festival I quickly learnt how to make some pins etc. For the ones you created at the end, you want to do what you did with the hammer but maybe a bit stronger and all around the wire to make it kind of squared instead of circled, because it brings the metal molecules together and it makes it surprisingly solid, and thus it doesn't bends anymore ! That's how you turn a wire into a solid and "usable" pin !