Oakley nailed it. Isiah can dish it out but doesn’t take it very well. Jordan doesn’t need to answer any questions - he’s been clear about how he feels - everybody knows exactly what he thinks.
Oakley was not good enough to criticize anyone! MJ is one of the all time greatest and Zeke is the best 6ft player EVER! MJ said Zeke was the harderst person to cover in the NBA. Also, Isiah did not CARRY, unlike current players wo beileve this is the AND1 league.
Isaiah not beat Jordan bitch ass was wrong. Everybody knows this. He disrespected everybody including Pippen and it made Jordan look like he is. A great lonely player whose harping on the past. Jordan dominated the 90s but; Jordan ain't won shhh in the 80s but the slam dunk contest. He never beat Bird Celtics or Kareem Lakers or Isaiah Pistons in a playoff series the whole 80s. And if Detroit was so ass why did Jordan recruit John Sally, Dennis Rodman and James Buda Edwards to help him win championships? None this is lies straight historical facts. Just because y'all love him as a player don't mean he wasn't a asshole as a man. Oakley stand up for Jordan but Jordan traded Oakley for Cartwright and never won anything either. Isaiah beat Jordan Bulls, Bird Celtics, Dr J sixers and Majic and Kareem Lakers to win his championships. He won MVP of the championship one year and Joe Dumars won MVP of the championship the next year. Detroit the only backcourt in NBA history that both guards won the MVP of the championship. Not even Steph and clay did that. Pit some respect on his name. Men and women lie but history and numbers don't. They'll never be a more team oriented team in the NBA like the Bad Boy Pistons
Bruh y’all crazy. Mike played his time and it’s he retired bro! Bruh up a billi he ain’t gotta talk to nobody. He gave y’all a whole doc explaining how he feel about everything. Bro done with it. We live in a era where everybody feel like people owe you conversation and they don’t. Give me a bill and I’m never speaking again! 😅
you don't know what you are talking about. Michael reached out to Zeke to get in the Last Dance. If you feel a certain way don't reach out leave it alone.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Isaiah has a valid perspective. But at some point he got to forget MJ and not allow others to provoke him. Move on Zeke who cares what they think or say especially yes men who can't carry your jock straps. MJ the goat and you'll the second greatest point guard behind Magic. That's nothing to sneeze at.
@Truth Is isaiah didnt call these ppl, they continually reach out 4 him so theres his truth, yo truth, then media distribution/distortion of that truth 2 audiences w/ads
Apparently, Jordan hasn't forgot about Isiah. Jordan is the one still hating an opponent, despite the fact that he has more accomplishments than Isiah. So this goes both ways. But, Jordan seems a tad bit more bitter, and the question is "Why!" Jordan is NO saint here.
Charles Oakley wasn’t even a good enough of a basketball player to comment on anyone’s skill set he really didn’t have a skill set his only job was to pretend to be tough but when he met up with real tough guys, he bowed down and behaved like he was supposed to
Thomas doesn't understand the cultural differences. He grew up understanding Fred Hampton, Black Power, Nation of Islam.. Doing for self... He didn't grow up fighting to Integrate with Slave Master and his Children. Doing anything to be accepted....
@@bOmBAsTiKNonsense. Jordan actually did not like white people at some point because he saw alot of racism growing up.Yall acting like he is Charles Barkley .Jordan first Wife is black so right there it shows he never tried to be a whitey lover or try to fit in with them.
People can say whatever they want about zeke...when I saw chris webber and John stocktons h.o.f speeches it validates everything isiah is in a positive way
@AG 1 LA in fairness, Isiah getting jerked from USA basketball team was unjust and how when other folks say something Isiah has to respond. Oakley didn't need to say all that, let Micheal fend for himself . However it's fun to watch all the banter
@@njjjjjjjjhhhs I would not go that far to say it was unjust, thats just my opine tho, i respect your opinion, But when IT's 2 former coaches, Indiana's Bobby Knight saying MJ is the best he's ever seen and Chuck Daly couldn't vouch for his inclusion on the Dream team, not to mention taking over his city, it hurt Isaiah and he is venting it towards Mike. However, its all good, we got to be entertained, Lol
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! Y’all worship this dude like he’s your god; but he’s never done or said a thing to help improve the Black community that made him into an international icon.
Man please zeke’s family looked out for MJ. People who say things like this don’t even have the context of Jordan and Zeke besides the on the basketball court and media talk. No background story on off the court.
But He does owe our people something that supported this Buck Dancer,when Dwight’s in Chicago wanted his Head & it was Minister Farrakhan that told those Woods to leave our Brother Alone or else!!!! We was buying them cheap ass shoes & some was even Stealing or killing for that BS & MJ was told by Dwight’s @ Nike to remain Quite a True Sambo Move😡
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
@@bOmBAsTiK lol, by your logic, take away the chip when someone else won finals mvp besides Zeke. That would in a huge way say he wasn’t the reason “that year.” Nah it’s no 🧢. It’s truth. He said check his record against him. Nothing more. Stop trying to move the fake point of Zeke. The records are what they are. Zeke lied 🤥 again lol. I have no dog in this fight, but keeping it a buck, Zeke is wrong. Zeke didn’t do anything until he got help. Please do your homework.
Ppl need to check why MJ hated thomas , imagine playing against a team with no honor whatsoever and they use every dirty play you can imagine and they do that for two years and they won both and you go shake their hands and congratulate them even though you caught every dirty play , then you win against them and they leave the court before the game ends not shaking the hands of the man that made them come with rules just to stop him , but what did MJ do , he kicked isiah out of the dream team and then went to win 6 championships and forgetting about this mf until they made the doc and he said what needed to be said
Thomas gotta get overcome that shit man, Jordan don't fuck with dog and he won't lol, let it go.... but he can't cause all that shit MJ said was true 😢
The fact that you have to go back 4 decades to get this type of competitive energy is an indictment on the culture of today's NBA. Much like the old BIG EAST conference in 80's college hoops....Isaiah,& Mike's era was SERIOUS!!!!!!
Isiah think Jordan isnt being real, that he isn't apologize in public, rather than in private. Bro, MJ is being real and he never thought about apologizing in private nor in public.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
@@harlemnyc1 He is not a “brother” of ours. And many of us have who grew up in Chicago, we’ve always known him to be a sellout. He has nothing else to offer his (Black) community but basketball, and he did that 35 years ago. Y’all can have that raccoon.
@kisswriters OH, I already know. I never did like the guy. I thought he was a hellva talent, but could never understand why anyone would be scared of him nor admire his phony ass. I'm a Knicks fan but loved the fact Thomas and the Pistons didn't give him an inch. Being a blk man and growing up in the Era of Jim Brown, Kareem, Russell ect see how this jerk carried himself when it came to us was disappointing to say the least.
@@katrinachavez3533 and when you're a Jordan fan,like yourself, anything someone says bad about Jordan is a bad person in your eyes,no matter what it is.
@@lydellconner7451 Slow down Sling Blade. Never a fan. I've always despised that arrogant Air Jordan a-hole. I rocked Zeke's Pumas before I did Jordans. But my 20/20 vision never deceived me. MJ was a much superior baller than Thomas and it's too obvious how extremely envious he is of Mike. He just can't let it go. Makes him look like a Versace skirt.
@@lydellconner7451 You know his fans think he never lost a fucking game right? Never could understand how you couldn't just like a team and the game without worshipping a player. Shit's weird..
Don’t remember exactly what MJ said. Believe he said hated him at that time. And that it was an a-hole move on I.Thomas part. However MJ is not even going to entertain this at all so Zeek will have to give this one up for a loss. That’s the way MJ is, if you cross him he’ll never forgive or forget.
The only issue I want to hear Charles Oakley discuss is his abrupt departure from the Knicks game back in 2017. He has been as quiet as the Lamb about it.
I guess we can get away with saying blacks need to help blacks. But of course it would be racist if a white player said we need to help whites. Other then that I couldn't possibly care less which millionaires like or dislike each other.
the pistons beat mj n the bulls back then....but im very sure that the whole pistons team mde that effort to beat mj....cause 85-98 mj is a killer you cnt beat him one on one bro....so theres a thin line that separates i and we....zeke beat mj.. its we.. n the whole efforts of pistons....n not just i ...by himself ..ur delusional...it takes a team and not just an indvdual player to beat mj vrsion of 85 to 90s...you cnt beat mj jst by urself zeke nver was...nver been n never will be
I think whats happening here is, Isaiah wants validation from MJ too. I know he loves Jordan, thats why he wanted MJ to say sorry to him just to let him know after that he really loves him and tell MJs the real goat.
Why should Jordan be sorry for anything? If Isiah had just shaken the man's hand and graciously accepted defeat like he (Jordan) did Isiah wouldn't be having all these conscience issues
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
@@kejuanlee1691 We let you people fight over past accomplishments , iam a laker and with all the injuries they had they still put up a hell of a fight to reach the western final in the brutal west. Thomas should start wearing a dress, women are the ones who carry their past until death we dont.
If Oakley want to say Jordan took his Chicago fans, he must be talking about the babies, who did'nt know Isiah Thomas, i'm Oakley's age, Isiah Thomas came right where i'm from, on the Westside, we older ones, will always ride with Isiah Thomas, he was, and will always, be my favorite player.I wish S Pippen had got drafted by the Pistons, you wouldn't have heard that much about Jordan then, yeah, that's what Isiah did, he made you get tough, when he got in John Salley's face, John started blocking shots like crazy, he wasn't a dirty player, the man just knew how to lead.
Foh! Aint nobody rocking with zeke as a baller over mj. You knew you was 🧢 when you typed this. His own FAMILY members chose MJ. Being from the Chi and know you lying. Secondly, that some silly sh*t. Pippen was a scrub and only became an allstar due to MJ working him in practice. Thats also HIS OWN words. Zeke aint did SH*T, but lose until dumars, rodman, vinnie and Aguire got there. Yeah ya boy was getting broke off without aguire (20 pt scorer already), rodman Future DPOY, and vinnie already a double digit vet. Stop bullsh*tting. Yeah ya clownboy was dirty, its a 26 min youtube on his dirty plays. Perhaps look it up and stop acting like we all didnt see exactly what he did. Smfh
Dude stop it Da Chi don’t care about lil zekey coward ass !detroit can keep his lame ass.We in Da Chi don’t give a fk about him keep him in your neck of the woods because the rest of Da Chi don’t care about him
@@malnorfleet4925 The truth! Zeke is pure vaginal walls and as delusional as Deontay Wilder when he said he'd stretch prime Tyson. MJ molded Pippen to be Boy Wonder to his Batman. If Scottie goes to Detroit he just becomes another average baller with length ala John Salley. Thomas needs to give Redman and Method Man their potent ganja back cause he's high as Jordan's vertical.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
If he moved on why ask Isaiah to be part of his documentary? Nobody likes Jordan, not one teammate or former player. Oakley stood up for him but, he don't like Oakley and got him traded. Horace Grant. Pippen, Harper, Kerr not one can stand him. Rodman respect him but played his career with the Bulls never speaking to Jordan or Scottie unless it was on the court. Right now no friends just white former cheerleaders waiting to take half his money. Just a gambling alcoholic trying to love off the past
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Get over it, Isiah. You do not have the clout of MJ. You showed poor sportsmanship when you refused to shake hands. When we talk Chicago basketball MJ rules and Isiah is mentioned after the likes of Stacy King.
It takes a whole lot of negative energy to walk around with such hatred for the rest of your life. I think after over 30 years, Jordan should consider letting it all go. Growing up and being raised a Bulls fan, we all supported Jordan through all of this but I think it is time to try to move on from it. Isiah got left off of the Dream Team which is the greatest sports team that will probably ever be assembled. That clearly will always hurt Isiah so Jordan got his lick in with that one.
When you pray for rain you gotta deal with the mud that follows the rain.Isiah Thomas started this crap yrs ago and it's still festering. He needs to LET IT GO!!! MJ is not going to apologize cause he didn't start this crap.
On The Court: Oakley NEVER challenged Isiah Thomas on the floor. All of the stuff Oakley is talking, he never TOOK IT THERE ON THE COURT when he was competing vs. Isiah Thomas. When the Pistons were beating Chicago when Oakley was on the team, Oakley NEVER did ANYTHING to Isiah to TRY and intimidate or ENFORCE on the court because HE COULDN'T! Look at Oakley with the Knicks when they played the Pistons from 1988 to 1992, Oakley NEVER challenged Isiah Thomas on the court -- NEVER. WHY? Because Oakley couldn't handle his OWN POSITION, which is why he got traded for Bill Cartwright and replaced by Horace Grant...so the Bulls felt that both Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant were 100% BETTER than Charles Oakley...now this proved to be TRUE in the playoffs in 1989, 1991, 1992, and 1993 versus the Bulls when Oakley had to face Horace Grant at the power forward spot and the guy Cartwright would contribute MORE than Oakley did for his team. THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE! Last Point: You have a little guy in Isiah Thomas stating how he kicked your ass on the court and then even NOW telling you to be HUMBLE -- now this is off the court. So Thomas is simply responding to the LIES Oakley is saying of WHY. 1.) Oakley is ASSUMING that Thomas wants or needs Jordan to be his friend -- that's not the case. 2.) Oakley is saying Jordan took Chicago from Isiah Thomas and that's the reason why Thomas is mad -- which is not true. So Oakley is just there speaking for Jordan and changing the story to get the public AGAINST ISIAH THOMAS -- this is what Oakley is doing and there for, otherwise why would anyone care what Oakley says about Isiah Thomas? Please, show me the CONNECTION of Oakley vs. Isiah? I could understand if Oakley spoke against Rick Mahorn because he played against Rick Mahorn and they were in 'The Big 3' together and competed on the court against one another, even with Bill Laimbeer or Rodman because Oakley competed against those guys -- but Thomas?...Isiah Thomas was a point guard who OAKLEY NEVER CHALLENGED ON THE COURT! HAHAHAHAHA! Oakley isn't fooling ANYBODY, he's Jordan's pawn and that's his job and once Jordan is done with Oakley, hell replace him with someone else like Bill Cartwright or Horace Grant. HAHAHA!
Zake was a dawg PG top 10 all time but he a hater and always been a snake he mad about the 96 Dream team but his Coach Chuck R.I.P. new it was zeke who told his team in 91 not shake Bulls hand he didn't want that nonsense going overseas and Zeke missed out on Greatness and 96 Dream team made history especially Goat.
Listen Isiah, is mad and continue to keep Jordan in his mouth. When besides the last dance. Jordan doesn't even talk about him. Because Oakley is right. Isiah is from Chicago. And Jordan had and got more love from Chicago than he did. Once he got there. And no matter what he says. He is the one that walked off Once the bulls finally got past them in the playoffs. And he walked off without shaking their hands .with time on the clock. When the previous years that Detroit put them out of the playoffs. Joe Dumars said that Jordan always congratulated them. And it has to be something because after all this years had done past he's the only one that can't get over it.
Zeke ain't lyin..he kept the heat off Mike in the Chi before he started winning championships and didn't need it. Ja Morant's grandfather'nem was steppas for Zeke back n the day..they kept them pipes and still do today 😂
Charles Oakley," The Enforcer", don't have any rings !!! Isaiah Lord Thomas of the Detroit Bad Boys has two championship rings. Isaiah beat Magic, Bird, and Mike, as well as, Ewing with Oakley in the NYC... Detroit don't need friends we respect respect. RESPECT!!!
Jordan wasn't the one who got lsaiah from being on the Dream Team, it was Magic and Zeke and Magic squashed and are good now. That's how real men settle disputes. Why don't you try Michael, and get it all out. It's not good to hold on to all that hate. I guarantee you'll feel so much better.
Isiah's full of $hit. "We in this brotherhood" He wasn't saying that in his playing days. He was a cut your throat player and if he had to play dirty....to win he did. Now he wants to be friends and brothers with the guys who don't want anything to do with him. He was a sore loser by HIS OWN ADMISSION. If at his age now he still will not admit that he was wrong for not shaking Jordan's hand after Detroit's finals loss Jordan should be done with him. I think that he is because he knows that Isiah isn't man enough to admit that he was wrong so why bother with him..
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Isiah can spew all that nonsense about records against his rivals but its all null and void because he chose to play dirty, he came up with The Jordan Rule’s and Magic Johnson stopped fukin with him, you even had Larry Bird and the Celtics refusing to shake their hands because they didn’t respect his game. Isiah put up basic numbers while encouraging his teammates to flagrantly foul and intimidate their opponents. You see what happens in 1991 when the referees have to call the game fair and square, the bulls with Michael Jordan easily defeated The Dirty Boy’s with a clean sweep. Jordan put an resounding end to Isiah’s tainted legacy, that’s why he hates on the GOAT. Jordan told isiah to go grab his shine box because he’s got a couple of gold medals for him to spit shine.
It’s 5 on 5 Jordan couldn’t be 3 places at once but at times he was lol it’s a team game Jordan needed a team to beat a team like Boston lakers pistons but those teams needed they whole squad to beat him he just didn’t have no team. Jordan was killing those team individually but he couldn’t beat a team he was one man he needed a team to beat a team. I would have loved to see his 96 bulls team against that pistons team or that lakers team or Boston team because that young Jordan was unstoppable no one couldn’t see him. But I tell you this it took the whole lakers team pistons team and Boston team to stop him and they still couldn’t if those teams wasn’t so great he would have beat them by himself that’s facts because he was avg 39 to 50 points on those teams every time he played them. Those wins pistons had against him wasn’t blowouts
Oakley known for two things fighting and being jordan friend…punch les John Salley over jordan…you defending another grown man your whole life like you signed to jordan brand…jordan can’t fight is that why punched Kerr and not Vernon Maxwell
Isaiah makes himself look bad,by going on @ on.. it's over. Michael the best. Jackson @ Barnes playing both sides. They should of gave Isaiah the truth. The truth is let it go. Isaiah in the hall of Fame, 2 titles, NCAA crown @ on @ on. He's great. Debateably the best small guard of all time. No need to go here.the truth.
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Stack was laughing a lil bit to hard, but he forgot when Zek said he saved his ass from getting kicked out the league. Smh
Niggaz fake
Stack was a good player but dude a clown since hanging out with this goof pussy Barnes. If Zeke was there he'd be all giggles and smiles
Right! I’m tripping off this. Dude, got his mouth open wide enough to fly a 747 into it while laughing.
Right like just be quiet bruh
Stak is a big phony
Charles Oakley's interview was a year before Isaiah's. He didn't respond to Isaiah.
Great catch! This fool busted. Great catch! Should be top comment.
Oakley nailed it.
Isiah can dish it out but doesn’t take it very well.
Jordan doesn’t need to answer any questions - he’s been clear about how he feels - everybody knows exactly what he thinks.
Oakley was not good enough to criticize anyone! MJ is one of the all time greatest and Zeke is the best 6ft player EVER! MJ said Zeke was the harderst person to cover in the NBA. Also, Isiah did not CARRY, unlike current players wo beileve this is the AND1 league.
@Marques Rane reality tv is fulla drama & very popular so no matter how much facts are stated, many audiences will continue 2 draw controversy
@@marquesrane2889 Oakley was just a knucklehead who just beat people up.
@@bruceleroy965 You have my vote on that one! 100% facts!
Isaiah not beat Jordan bitch ass was wrong. Everybody knows this. He disrespected everybody including Pippen and it made Jordan look like he is. A great lonely player whose harping on the past. Jordan dominated the 90s but; Jordan ain't won shhh in the 80s but the slam dunk contest. He never beat Bird Celtics or Kareem Lakers or Isaiah Pistons in a playoff series the whole 80s. And if Detroit was so ass why did Jordan recruit John Sally, Dennis Rodman and James Buda Edwards to help him win championships? None this is lies straight historical facts. Just because y'all love him as a player don't mean he wasn't a asshole as a man. Oakley stand up for Jordan but Jordan traded Oakley for Cartwright and never won anything either. Isaiah beat Jordan Bulls, Bird Celtics, Dr J sixers and Majic and Kareem Lakers to win his championships. He won MVP of the championship one year and Joe Dumars won MVP of the championship the next year. Detroit the only backcourt in NBA history that both guards won the MVP of the championship. Not even Steph and clay did that. Pit some respect on his name. Men and women lie but history and numbers don't. They'll never be a more team oriented team in the NBA like the Bad Boy Pistons
Jordan don’t even care….why is he talking to himself. Like, why?
Oakley interview was last year even before this Isiah interview is wasn’t a Oakley response. Somebody posted as if Oakley interview as it was current
Exactly!
I was going to point that out too. Glad someone is paying attention
Bruh y’all crazy. Mike played his time and it’s he retired bro! Bruh up a billi he ain’t gotta talk to nobody. He gave y’all a whole doc explaining how he feel about everything. Bro done with it. We live in a era where everybody feel like people owe you conversation and they don’t. Give me a bill and I’m never speaking again! 😅
what the hell are you smokin.... pass that over here
you don't know what you are talking about. Michael reached out to Zeke to get in the Last Dance. If you feel a certain way don't reach out leave it alone.
(mic drop)
@Bryant Williams paybacks a bitch aint it. Mj always wins in the end. Black jesus folks. Luv it. I just hope y'all hate it. Keep it that way.
Jordan is a raccoon. That’s why the the White media loves him.
Mj took his City & both of his Coaches while winning 2 Olympics medals.. 🤔🏅🏅😂
That’s cold
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Mj was soft
And IT won back 2 back titles on Jordan’s head
@@brixaabrixaa3390 🏆🏆🏆🎖Isiah fanboys getting emotional🎖🏆🏆🏆
🍿😂Jordan Brand😂🍿
Isaiah has a valid perspective. But at some point he got to forget MJ and not allow others to provoke him. Move on Zeke who cares what they think or say especially yes men who can't carry your jock straps. MJ the goat and you'll the second greatest point guard behind Magic. That's nothing to sneeze at.
That lil cat might be the greatest pure point guard ever!
Mj ain't no goat overrated ass
@Truth Is isaiah didnt call these ppl, they continually reach out 4 him so theres his truth, yo truth, then media distribution/distortion of that truth 2 audiences w/ads
Apparently, Jordan hasn't forgot about Isiah. Jordan is the one still hating an opponent, despite the fact that he has more accomplishments than Isiah. So this goes both ways. But, Jordan seems a tad bit more bitter, and the question is "Why!" Jordan is NO saint here.
@@twhite3850
Jordan may very well hate Zeke. But you don't see him going around doing interviews. He has moved on and it is what it is.
Isiah has MJ renting in his head without paying rent!!! Get over it Isiah!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Charles Oakley wasn’t even a good enough of a basketball player to comment on anyone’s skill set he really didn’t have a skill set his only job was to pretend to be tough but when he met up with real tough guys, he bowed down and behaved like he was supposed to
Thomas doesn't understand the cultural differences. He grew up understanding Fred Hampton, Black Power, Nation of Islam.. Doing for self... He didn't grow up fighting to Integrate with Slave Master and his Children. Doing anything to be accepted....
Underrated comment. Wow...
ROBERT WILLIAMS WAS A BLACK MAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA( NEGROES WITH GUNS) THERE WERE BLACK FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN NORTH CAROLINA
@Donald Nixon
Salute
That’s the truth and deep
@@bOmBAsTiKNonsense. Jordan actually did not like white people at some point because he saw alot of racism growing up.Yall acting like he is Charles Barkley .Jordan first Wife is black so right there it shows he never tried to be a whitey lover or try to fit in with them.
Is Isiah trying to prove that Jordan doesn't feel about him the way he stated he did? What a pointless effort.
You can't argue with yourself it's like looking in the mirror move on Isiah
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. MJ is still an asshole talking about Isaiah. Did you watch The Last Dance? Dumbass.
Detroit vs everybody
People can say whatever they want about zeke...when I saw chris webber and John stocktons h.o.f speeches it validates everything isiah is in a positive way
Whoever invented the phrase "living in your head rent free" was inspired by this man Isaiah Thomas.
@AG 1 LA in fairness, Isiah getting jerked from USA basketball team was unjust and how when other folks say something Isiah has to respond. Oakley didn't need to say all that, let Micheal fend for himself . However it's fun to watch all the banter
@@njjjjjjjjhhhs
I would not go that far to say it was unjust, thats just my opine tho, i respect your opinion, But when IT's 2 former coaches, Indiana's Bobby Knight saying MJ is the best he's ever seen and Chuck Daly couldn't vouch for his inclusion on the Dream team, not to mention taking over his city, it hurt Isaiah and he is venting it towards Mike.
However, its all good, we got to be entertained, Lol
Whoever invented the term nut hugger had to be inspired by Charles Oakley.
6-0 🙏🏾
3-1 against Detroit in 4 playoff series Zeke was MJ’s daddy
Mike don't owe Isiah nuttin'
Thank you
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! Y’all worship this dude like he’s your god; but he’s never done or said a thing to help improve the Black community that made him into an international icon.
Man please zeke’s family looked out for MJ. People who say things like this don’t even have the context of Jordan and Zeke besides the on the basketball court and media talk. No background story on off the court.
But He does owe our people something that supported this Buck Dancer,when Dwight’s in Chicago wanted his Head & it was Minister Farrakhan that told those Woods to leave our Brother Alone or else!!!! We was buying them cheap ass shoes & some was even Stealing or killing for that BS & MJ was told by Dwight’s @ Nike to remain Quite a True Sambo Move😡
Where is the Jordan Plant in the Hood Manufacturing his shoes I know 🦗 from MGaye
Isiah thomas feels like He got no respect or hated by his peers because Of jordan . Jordan just dont give a _hit .
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
It wasn't because of Jordan. It was because Isiah was a dirty basketball player and everyone who played against him experienced that with him.
Crazy part is Oakley’s record vs Thomas is .500 in the regular season and in the playoffs he has I think 3 more wins. Zeke u may wanna stop lying. Lol
Lol, it wasn't cos of Oakley 🧢🧢🧢
@@bOmBAsTiK lol, by your logic, take away the chip when someone else won finals mvp besides Zeke. That would in a huge way say he wasn’t the reason “that year.” Nah it’s no 🧢. It’s truth. He said check his record against him. Nothing more. Stop trying to move the fake point of Zeke. The records are what they are. Zeke lied 🤥 again lol. I have no dog in this fight, but keeping it a buck, Zeke is wrong. Zeke didn’t do anything until he got help. Please do your homework.
Oak was shit as a player!!! How many all star games, etc. did he play in? ZILCH!!!
@@MrChuuch24 Zeke had a national championship that he was the best player on. Not the 3rd best.
@B. Assasson thank you as soon as he said that I was like dude you only have 3 more wins total and you make it seam like it's 10 .
Ppl need to check why MJ hated thomas , imagine playing against a team with no honor whatsoever and they use every dirty play you can imagine and they do that for two years and they won both and you go shake their hands and congratulate them even though you caught every dirty play , then you win against them and they leave the court before the game ends not shaking the hands of the man that made them come with rules just to stop him , but what did MJ do , he kicked isiah out of the dream team and then went to win 6 championships and forgetting about this mf until they made the doc and he said what needed to be said
I'm glad you have the ability to type this because I'd imagine it'd be hard to say the words out loud with Jordan's ball's in your mouth
Crazy to think that Oakley would one day turn into the black doc brown from back to the future😂
Thomas gotta get overcome that shit man, Jordan don't fuck with dog and he won't lol, let it go.... but he can't cause all that shit MJ said was true 😢
The fact that you have to go back 4 decades to get this type of competitive energy is an indictment on the culture of today's NBA. Much like the old BIG EAST conference in 80's college hoops....Isaiah,& Mike's era was SERIOUS!!!!!!
For years the Association has done Isiah Thomas WRONG. SHIT NBEEDS TO STOP!!!
Isiah think Jordan isnt being real, that he isn't apologize in public, rather than in private. Bro, MJ is being real and he never thought about apologizing in private nor in public.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Damn, you say that like you know the brother personally. Weird..
@@harlemnyc1 He is not a “brother” of ours. And many of us have who grew up in Chicago, we’ve always known him to be a sellout. He has nothing else to offer his (Black) community but basketball, and he did that 35 years ago. Y’all can have that raccoon.
@kisswriters OH, I already know. I never did like the guy. I thought he was a hellva talent, but could never understand why anyone would be scared of him nor admire his phony ass. I'm a Knicks fan but loved the fact Thomas and the Pistons didn't give him an inch. Being a blk man and growing up in the Era of Jim Brown, Kareem, Russell ect see how this jerk carried himself when it came to us was disappointing to say the least.
@@harlemnyc1 you dummies keep promoting this nonsense. Jordan doesn't have to prove his "blackness" to anybody.
Mike don't care .he ain't apologizing so let it go
Did the Ref call that foul on Jordan for holding Zek arm like they were dancing, lmao
They hate when Zeke speak FACTS 🤷🏾♂️
Zeke talking while MJ doing lol. Y'all mad about MJ not speaking but not mad when MJ commits $100M's to worthy causes
What causes? Shut up
When you're the GOAT and a whole lot more elite than someone spewing nonsense there is nada to say.
@@katrinachavez3533 and when you're a Jordan fan,like yourself, anything someone says bad about Jordan is a bad person in your eyes,no matter what it is.
@@lydellconner7451 Slow down Sling Blade. Never a fan. I've always despised that arrogant Air Jordan a-hole. I rocked Zeke's Pumas before I did Jordans. But my 20/20 vision never deceived me. MJ was a much superior baller than Thomas and it's too obvious how extremely envious he is of Mike. He just can't let it go. Makes him look like a Versace skirt.
@@lydellconner7451 You know his fans think he never lost a fucking game right? Never could understand how you couldn't just like a team and the game without worshipping a player. Shit's weird..
Don’t remember exactly what MJ said. Believe he said hated him at that time. And that it was an a-hole move on I.Thomas part. However MJ is not even going to entertain this at all so Zeek will have to give this one up for a loss. That’s the way MJ is, if you cross him he’ll never forgive or forget.
Charles is Going to Always Speak the Truth 💯 Well Spoken Charles!!❤
old people would be absolutely invisible if these platforms & reposts didnt put mikes in front of them
The only issue I want to hear Charles Oakley discuss is his abrupt departure from the Knicks game back in 2017. He has been as quiet as the Lamb about it.
Watch his interview he talked about it.
Where exactly are these clips on the All The Smoke podcast? I looked at the Isaiah Thomas part 1 and part 2 interview and did not see these clips.
Jordan living rent free in Isiahs head for over 30 years.....
Zeke, well let's check your record vs bird n pals- Detroit had to be built, just like Chicago
You mean the same Bird and Pals that refused to shake hands after the Pistons finally got by them?
Jordan relaxing, searching for new adventures to continue building his empire, zeek and the piston did Jordan bad , zeek move on go live your life
Detroit vs everybody HOF 2 time champion still holds record for most points in a finals quarter respect that man's name
Zek feelings are hurt not being on 92 dream team Jordan got the last laugh 😂
I guess we can get away with saying blacks need to help blacks. But of course it would be racist if a white player said we need to help whites.
Other then that I couldn't possibly care less which millionaires like or dislike each other.
Isiah is legend and the Pistons faced and defeated the best of the best in that era of basketball.
But he was still was a dirty player who did a lot of sneaky shit behind the scenes.
@@moxmann what player doesn’t 🤷🏾♂️
by cheating w/ violence before the league had any sense
the pistons beat mj n the bulls back then....but im very sure that the whole pistons team mde that effort to beat mj....cause 85-98 mj is a killer you cnt beat him one on one bro....so theres a thin line that separates i and we....zeke beat mj.. its we.. n the whole efforts of pistons....n not just i ...by himself ..ur delusional...it takes a team and not just an indvdual player to beat mj vrsion of 85 to 90s...you cnt beat mj jst by urself zeke nver was...nver been n never will be
Oakley made that comment before Isiah got on the show.
I think whats happening here is, Isaiah wants validation from MJ too. I know he loves Jordan, thats why he wanted MJ to say sorry to him just to let him know after that he really loves him and tell MJs the real goat.
Why should Jordan be sorry for anything? If Isiah had just shaken the man's hand and graciously accepted defeat like he (Jordan) did Isiah wouldn't be having all these conscience issues
You got it ass backwards. Charles Oakley had the interview first...Isiah is responding
Now Thomas wants to talk about help each other
Its nothing wrong with showing love to creators.
Oakley’s interview was about a year Thomas was about to week’s ago he was responding to Oakley
Everybody knows Mike don't fck with the blacks. 😂
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Accept his ex, his kids his mom and dad siblings etc. You dopes don't even think about what you say.
Facts he never has never will....eff Mike
Oakley look like Danny glover's son 😂
Somebody needs to tell diva Thomas that not everyone is into him.
Detroit vs everybody hof 2 time champ respect that man's name
@@kejuanlee1691 We let you people fight over past accomplishments , iam a laker and with all the injuries they had they still put up a hell of a fight to reach the western final in the brutal west. Thomas should start wearing a dress, women are the ones who carry their past until death we dont.
Oakley needs to sit down and shut up! Oh, he was already sitting...
Isiah Thomas reminds the world why Karl Malone elbowed him snd and gave him 40 Stitches.
Clucking hens in the hen house worse than chicken-heads.
If Oakley want to say Jordan took his Chicago fans, he must be talking about the babies, who did'nt know Isiah Thomas, i'm Oakley's age, Isiah Thomas came right where i'm from, on the Westside, we older ones, will always ride with Isiah Thomas, he was, and will always, be my favorite player.I wish S Pippen had got drafted by the Pistons, you wouldn't have heard that much about Jordan then, yeah, that's what Isiah did, he made you get tough, when he got in John Salley's face, John started blocking shots like crazy, he wasn't a dirty player, the man just knew how to lead.
Foh! Aint nobody rocking with zeke as a baller over mj. You knew you was 🧢 when you typed this. His own FAMILY members chose MJ. Being from the Chi and know you lying. Secondly, that some silly sh*t. Pippen was a scrub and only became an allstar due to MJ working him in practice. Thats also HIS OWN words. Zeke aint did SH*T, but lose until dumars, rodman, vinnie and Aguire got there. Yeah ya boy was getting broke off without aguire (20 pt scorer already), rodman Future DPOY, and vinnie already a double digit vet. Stop bullsh*tting. Yeah ya clownboy was dirty, its a 26 min youtube on his dirty plays. Perhaps look it up and stop acting like we all didnt see exactly what he did. Smfh
Dude stop it Da Chi don’t care about lil zekey coward ass !detroit can keep his lame ass.We in Da Chi don’t give a fk about him keep him in your neck of the woods because the rest of Da Chi don’t care about him
@@malnorfleet4925 The truth! Zeke is pure vaginal walls and as delusional as Deontay Wilder when he said he'd stretch prime Tyson. MJ molded Pippen to be Boy Wonder to his Batman. If Scottie goes to Detroit he just becomes another average baller with length ala John Salley. Thomas needs to give Redman and Method Man their potent ganja back cause he's high as Jordan's vertical.
YOUR POINT IS????? YEAH! WE DON'T GIVE A FUKKK. GTFOH
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Two Championships pretty good but not the greatest ever
MJ has moved on and so should Isaiah.
If he moved on why ask Isaiah to be part of his documentary? Nobody likes Jordan, not one teammate or former player. Oakley stood up for him but, he don't like Oakley and got him traded. Horace Grant. Pippen, Harper, Kerr not one can stand him. Rodman respect him but played his career with the Bulls never speaking to Jordan or Scottie unless it was on the court. Right now no friends just white former cheerleaders waiting to take half his money. Just a gambling alcoholic trying to love off the past
Isaiah is who I try to play as, but I keep playing like AI.
He spoke on Mike cuz he still in the media..
Nothing competitive about it.. two brothers !!
I’m with Zeke. Oakley says what a loyal spouse would. He knows MJ would divorce him unless he’s 100% loyal. Ask Barkley about that.
Zeke keep mj name in his mouth like he mj ex-b*tch, but you rock with a 60 year old female acting dude, huh?
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
The only dude putting out "female energy" in this situation is Thomas. He acting like a woman scorned.
@@dnice4145 True enough.
Man mj fans gon always take his side
Isaiah is too pressed to get some screen time with the Goat.
They asking him these questions. This is like the whole Jay Z n Dame Dash situation. They ask Dame but not Jay
@@joshallison1306 yeah okay. He came on there to be asked those questions. He doesn’t look surprised or bothered by it does he?
Zeke just saying how he feels. Ain't nothing wrong with that. If MJ dont wanna talk, that's ok too.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
Isaiah let it go bro! You sound weak 😂😂😂
Zeak!!!...is the truth❤❤❤
Get over it, Isiah. You do not have the clout of MJ. You showed poor sportsmanship when you refused to shake hands. When we talk Chicago basketball MJ rules and Isiah is mentioned after the likes of Stacy King.
It takes a whole lot of negative energy to walk around with such hatred for the rest of your life. I think after over 30 years, Jordan should consider letting it all go.
Growing up and being raised a Bulls fan, we all supported Jordan through all of this but I think it is time to try to move on from it. Isiah got left off of the Dream Team which is the greatest sports team that will probably ever be assembled. That clearly will always hurt Isiah so Jordan got his lick in with that one.
When you pray for rain you gotta deal with the mud that follows the rain.Isiah Thomas started this crap yrs ago and it's still festering. He needs to LET IT GO!!! MJ is not going to apologize cause he didn't start this crap.
2:04 Matt 😂😂😂😂😂
Mike was talking about when they played against each other. Not now. Get it straight!
Right! And that is what's so crazy about Zeke. Mike is really in his head but you never hear anything from Mike about anyone.
On The Court: Oakley NEVER challenged Isiah Thomas on the floor. All of the stuff Oakley is talking, he never TOOK IT THERE ON THE COURT when he was competing vs. Isiah Thomas. When the Pistons were beating Chicago when Oakley was on the team, Oakley NEVER did ANYTHING to Isiah to TRY and intimidate or ENFORCE on the court because HE COULDN'T!
Look at Oakley with the Knicks when they played the Pistons from 1988 to 1992, Oakley NEVER challenged Isiah Thomas on the court -- NEVER. WHY? Because Oakley couldn't handle his OWN POSITION, which is why he got traded for Bill Cartwright and replaced by Horace Grant...so the Bulls felt that both Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant were 100% BETTER than Charles Oakley...now this proved to be TRUE in the playoffs in 1989, 1991, 1992, and 1993 versus the Bulls when Oakley had to face Horace Grant at the power forward spot and the guy Cartwright would contribute MORE than Oakley did for his team.
THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE!
Last Point: You have a little guy in Isiah Thomas stating how he kicked your ass on the court and then even NOW telling you to be HUMBLE -- now this is off the court. So Thomas is simply responding to the LIES Oakley is saying of WHY. 1.) Oakley is ASSUMING that Thomas wants or needs Jordan to be his friend -- that's not the case. 2.) Oakley is saying Jordan took Chicago from Isiah Thomas and that's the reason why Thomas is mad -- which is not true. So Oakley is just there speaking for Jordan and changing the story to get the public AGAINST ISIAH THOMAS -- this is what Oakley is doing and there for, otherwise why would anyone care what Oakley says about Isiah Thomas? Please, show me the CONNECTION of Oakley vs. Isiah? I could understand if Oakley spoke against Rick Mahorn because he played against Rick Mahorn and they were in 'The Big 3' together and competed on the court against one another, even with Bill Laimbeer or Rodman because Oakley competed against those guys -- but Thomas?...Isiah Thomas was a point guard who OAKLEY NEVER CHALLENGED ON THE COURT! HAHAHAHAHA! Oakley isn't fooling ANYBODY, he's Jordan's pawn and that's his job and once Jordan is done with Oakley, hell replace him with someone else like Bill Cartwright or Horace Grant. HAHAHA!
Zake was a dawg PG top 10 all time but he a hater and always been a snake he mad about the 96 Dream team but his Coach Chuck R.I.P. new it was zeke who told his team in 91 not shake Bulls hand he didn't want that nonsense going overseas and Zeke missed out on Greatness and 96 Dream team made history especially Goat.
Oh boy get lost! This guy just won’t go away
Stak be rolling
Isiah really messes up his greatness with all this hating. I can’t even remember how good he was because I have way more memories of him hating.
Zeke beat magic bird and Jordan. Why is he not the best? Oakley is a flunky just want to be around anyone who has the best toys 😂
He'll bring that bitterness in his grave!
all because mj called him a ahole? jee zeke were you not called worst on court n by fans when the n word could be used with no actions?
Listen Isiah, is mad and continue to keep Jordan in his mouth. When besides the last dance. Jordan doesn't even talk about him. Because Oakley is right. Isiah is from Chicago. And Jordan had and got more love from Chicago than he did. Once he got there. And no matter what he says. He is the one that walked off Once the bulls finally got past them in the playoffs. And he walked off without shaking their hands .with time on the clock. When the previous years that Detroit put them out of the playoffs. Joe Dumars said that Jordan always congratulated them. And it has to be something because after all this years had done past he's the only one that can't get over it.
There are meme telling you how Michael feels..Mj is taking this call out personally
That is a fact.
I love Oak. Tell it the way it is.
Zeke ain't lyin..he kept the heat off Mike in the Chi before he started winning championships and didn't need it. Ja Morant's grandfather'nem was steppas for Zeke back n the day..they kept them pipes and still do today 😂
Charles Oakley," The Enforcer", don't have any rings !!! Isaiah Lord Thomas of the Detroit Bad Boys has two championship rings. Isaiah beat Magic, Bird, and Mike, as well as, Ewing with Oakley in the NYC... Detroit don't need friends we respect respect. RESPECT!!!
Damn, Isaiah. Move on.
Oakley always riding jordan di??. Lol. You not on Thomas level. Lmao
Jordan wasn't the one who got lsaiah from being on the Dream Team, it was Magic and Zeke and Magic squashed and are good now. That's how real men settle disputes. Why don't you try Michael, and get it all out. It's not good to hold on to all that hate. I guarantee you'll feel so much better.
Isiah's full of $hit. "We in this brotherhood" He wasn't saying that in his playing days. He was a cut your throat player and if he had to play dirty....to win he did. Now he wants to be friends and brothers with the guys who don't want anything to do with him. He was a sore loser by HIS OWN ADMISSION. If at his age now he still will not admit that he was wrong for not shaking Jordan's hand after Detroit's finals loss Jordan should be done with him. I think that he is because he knows that Isiah isn't man enough to admit that he was wrong so why bother with him..
Isiah Thomas and Michael Jordan both still can hoop bruh
I bet you Zeke would be Jordan as he did back then
Go see the movie Air! They build you up just to tear you down.
Michael Jordan doesn't owe Isiah Thomas anything. MJ has given more money to black charities than Isiah Thomas' net worth.
He sure has. Especially all those prisons he owns filled with Black men.
Jordan is a sellout raccoon! That’s why he’s celebrated by White corporate media, because they know he’ll never say or do anything to upset the status quo.
oh woww
Move on dude.
So Mike got a billion (with a B) and Isiah still mad about the Olympics from 30 years ago?
Let it go Ike...
Let it go.... and walk away.
Oakley is Jordan’s buddy….
That dude jealous of Mike, Mike to big to appear on a little show and debate him, you couldn't beat Mike one one one
Sometimes the truth hurt ...dang Charles, why you do that to him?? 😂🤣🤣 ...Isaiah is forever tormented
Isiah can spew all that nonsense about records against his rivals but its all null and void because he chose to play dirty, he came up with The Jordan Rule’s and Magic Johnson stopped fukin with him, you even had Larry Bird and the Celtics refusing to shake their hands because they didn’t respect his game. Isiah put up basic numbers while encouraging his teammates to flagrantly foul and intimidate their opponents. You see what happens in 1991 when the referees have to call the game fair and square, the bulls with Michael Jordan easily defeated The Dirty Boy’s with a clean sweep. Jordan put an resounding end to Isiah’s tainted legacy, that’s why he hates on the GOAT. Jordan told isiah to go grab his shine box because he’s got a couple of gold medals for him to spit shine.
Why he keeps talking about MJ, MJ don't see this man,MJ don't care about this crazy man
Isiah is still butt hurt when he saw his nephew back in the day wearing the GOAT'S Number 23 Bulls Jersey!
It’s 5 on 5 Jordan couldn’t be 3 places at once but at times he was lol it’s a team game Jordan needed a team to beat a team like Boston lakers pistons but those teams needed they whole squad to beat him he just didn’t have no team. Jordan was killing those team individually but he couldn’t beat a team he was one man he needed a team to beat a team. I would have loved to see his 96 bulls team against that pistons team or that lakers team or Boston team because that young Jordan was unstoppable no one couldn’t see him. But I tell you this it took the whole lakers team pistons team and Boston team to stop him and they still couldn’t if those teams wasn’t so great he would have beat them by himself that’s facts because he was avg 39 to 50 points on those teams every time he played them. Those wins pistons had against him wasn’t blowouts
Oakley known for two things fighting and being jordan friend…punch les John Salley over jordan…you defending another grown man your whole life like you signed to jordan brand…jordan can’t fight is that why punched Kerr and not Vernon Maxwell
Isaiah makes himself look bad,by going on @ on.. it's over. Michael the best. Jackson @ Barnes playing both sides. They should of gave Isaiah the truth. The truth is let it go. Isaiah in the hall of Fame, 2 titles, NCAA crown @ on @ on. He's great. Debateably the best small guard of all time. No need to go here.the truth.
Zeke just a cry baby csn dish it but can't take it
Man Isaiah is a cry baby