I'll add this from a guy, Vic Grossi, who worked for McCulloch when they were McCulloch and about these saws... Being an “ex” employee of the ORIGINAL McCulloch Corporation (6101 Century Blvd., Los Angeles, Ca.) I’d like to give a little insight. YES! They were a pain to work on! 100%agree! Originally, they were designed to be a “160 hour (life span)” saw. When McCulloch was purchased by Black & Decker , it was redesigned to be a “16” hour saw… it was their idea of a mass market tool to be thrown away and replaced… not repaired!
Mini-Mac 6 has a special place in my heart. It was the first chainsaw my dad bought, I was 12 when he let me run it in the early 70s. That little saw cut a lot of firewood tops from our woods. We then graduated to a 510, then a 610, I still have them all. They were great saws for what they were intended for.😀
I bet he grew up in a time where things were meant to be saved and didn't like how things evolved to what they are today. It was proven already by those who engineered this saw what the true intentions of this model was meant for when they needed work. But yes I know of him, he "Walkerizes" chainsaws to this day still, I have a buddy that has a saw in his hands getting that treatment soon.
I had a heard of them . I restored a few and sometimes I would run them in my hand sometimes before I put it back in the case . I still have one that runs with the case . I gave all of them to friend of mine out in the country that has a small engine shop . Had a neighbor bring me his Step Dad's saw to see if I would work on it and it was a Mini Mac and it look like new but no fire (it was a points model sooo and gas poured out of the tank as fast as I put it in . I told him I ain't gonna fix that thang but I'll take it if you want to give it to me and he told his Step Dad and Step Dad said he would take it somewhere and get it fix ------ I said good luck with that . Then a few days later another friend brought me another and said here it's yours soooo I'm waiting for the Step Dad to give up the other one . I've took so many of those apart it doesn't take me very long to have the engine in my hand but the things are just to small . I do like the Mac 6 though they can have a fuel line problem and line is even hard to find on eBay but I did rig up a line on one of my friends Mac 6 that worked good but it was a few years back and I've restored so many saws I can't remember what I done and he passed and I don't know what happened to that saw . Donny Walker did a TH-cam video on those a few videos back on his channel . He's got them down .
Dealers would and wouldn't work on them, tike was money for them and they have the right to pick and choose what to work on. As for the PM6, the one thing to this day that slows down them being brought back to life is that unique fuel line. I use to have one laying around and it either got lost or hell I may have used it, but I would like to see if I could 3D print one if I could get my hands on another one.
@@mistermacgray I got a few PM6 to restore someday . My friend that passed had a few of them he picked up from eBay and I got all the saws he had except for one or two his neighbor had . I got one in the case that's like new with Mac tool kit and owners manual . I sure the one's that I need to go through probably gonna need the fuel line . I remember when you restored one here on your channel a while back .
First thing I did was delete the automatic oiler and been using mine since, when it dies, I'll hang it up for an ornament in my shop. They suck to work on, no doubt
I beg to differ, they are easy to take aprt, simple to fix and when complete & fully functional I sell every one I can get my hands on for $124.99+shipping
Are they *that* bad compared to something like a PM310? I might be biased because i adore how old horizontal engined mcculloch saws look, but i would not mind working on that. Shame really that it got tossed, but thankfully they are relatively common
Common because they were cheap and made to be thrown away. Labor to fix one of these at a dealer was the sane as a larger frame saw. These were $89 new, labor to fix one would exceed the cost of buying new. It's just the reality of the age that was becoming then that is now.
Not worth the time to rip it all out to fix a carb on a throw away saw. I've fixed one on my mini mac 120 and that was enough. I pinned a comment on this video of a guy telling about them, they are true throw away saws. I have over 60 macs, I won't trip over a mini mac hitting the trash like it's designed to be put at some point.
Dang I picked up 2 dirty ones with all the parts fully assembled for 5 bucks I got board and took one apart and cleaned it the inside is still shinny but questionable if it will be worth making my chainsaw if their is no replacements
i agree that these are a pain to work on, got alot of these to run again. but maaaaaaaaaaan, putting it back together makes me wish i didn’t even take it apart. always runs when i fix it tho, even if it’s done for i’d probably use it as a shelf ornament 😂
That's 15 minutes of hoping all goes right. What nobody has proven to me yet that these weren't purposely designed to have obsolescence built into them I've done been told by makers and master warranty dealers for McCulloch that they were. Harsh reality is just because it was American made didn't mean it was made to last forever, just means it was made in a different time era before things all went over seas to be made.
had a fella send 2 different ones for repair both needed starter pulleys on top of other issues i boxed them up and sent them back worst saw ivr rvrt tried to work on...i have a mint one i know all it needs is a carb kit its sat on a shelf for 2 years lol ill tame the beast one of these days...
Someone gave me a Eagar Beaver, i watched videos, and i am doing what you said, its going in the scrap, i have several Macs and enjoy them greatly, and can probably fix that little saw, but at 69 yrs old i would rather spend my time on something like my model 47, or 250, or 610, or my favorite 10-10 auto, thanks for the tip.
Wasn't worth my gas or time to sell off, shipping would be more than its worth. Millions of these were made and plenty have been put where they belong after their life use.
As a part of McCulloch history you have to accept that they, not me, designed this as a throw away saw. You don't have to accept the truth, but you can live the lie.
@@mistermacgray I removed the last sentence of my first comment. I shouldn't have typed that. I've turned into a grumpy old man in the mornings. But I have a huge amount of patience when working on saws or anything else. I saw you throwing away history and parts that some younger person would have liked to have.
@Clint's Hobbies DIY I wouldn't want to give something like this to somebody and they think all of them are like this, pain to work on, not as your first...I explain that in the video too. I would rather them start with something simpler and work their way to this, even dealers had a challenge fixing these, when they did take them on.
Mac made numerous models using the same saw mini mac 110, 120, 130 and 140. They made a Eager Beaver, a 2.0 model too. They also made a PM610 they called a Eager Beaver, 605, 610, 650, a Montgomery ward ward orange 610 too. Lots of renaming of the same saw. Lov team yellow!!!
Or just throw away the throw away saw as it's design intended. It's a 16hr saw, milking it out won't save it or make it more valuable. I saved one, the rest after it hit the trash.
@@mistermacgray What percentage of your audience would you believe to be saw enthusiasts, those who enjoy repairing, enjoy learning, enjoy the challenge? And what percentage of your audience are merely tool consumers having zero interest in anything other than using it until it's time to throw away? The utility in the latter is questionable, but maybe you've stumbled onto an ignored niche.
@motorrad2 not sure why you are wanting to keep going on with this, the saw is long gone and I'm not the only person to do this to a saw intended and by design to be thrown away, read the pinned comment from a guy who designed the saw. There are times when you beat a dead horse...thats fixing one of these and continuing to justify me spending time and money trying too. I play with bigger boy saws and engines for them, I personally like stuffing go kart engines into saw frames and spending my time doing that, not saving a at the time $89 throw away saw.
i hav a 160s runs great was in a barn 15+ yrs. wit a broke pull cord. sounds like you kno what ur talkin about tho ill keep in mind if ever quits on me thanks
Damn of course I find this video the day I'm struggling with my Eager Beaver 2.0. I'm gonna pass it on to the next guy, which may be the dumpster. Too much hassle for a tiny saw.
Not worth my time. If you read the pinned comment on the guy who helped design them, he tells you that they are throw away and not worth putting money into. I'll work on my PM6 before I work on one of these again.
@@JakePlisskin12 not that it's hard to work on these as much as I have larger fish to fry in that time. You should check out my channel and see the bigger fish I fry with my time.
I'll add this from a guy, Vic Grossi, who worked for McCulloch when they were McCulloch and about these saws...
Being an “ex” employee of the ORIGINAL McCulloch Corporation (6101 Century Blvd., Los Angeles, Ca.) I’d like to give a little insight. YES! They were a pain to work on! 100%agree! Originally, they were designed to be a “160 hour (life span)” saw. When McCulloch was purchased by Black & Decker , it was redesigned to be a “16” hour saw… it was their idea of a mass market tool to be thrown away and replaced… not repaired!
Love Love Love Mini-Macs! My Dad bought one around 1973 and I loved that little saw.
When they work they work great, after that....
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Mini-Mac 6 has a special place in my heart. It was the first chainsaw my dad bought, I was 12 when he let me run it in the early 70s. That little saw cut a lot of firewood tops from our woods. We then graduated to a 510, then a 610, I still have them all. They were great saws for what they were intended for.😀
I have one for many years and still use it occasionally. It has been a little gem.
EVER HEAR OF DONNY WALKER? HE KNOWS THEM INSIDE-OUT AND WAS DOING THE WARRANTY WORK FOR McCULLOUGH AT AGE 11. HE WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I bet he grew up in a time where things were meant to be saved and didn't like how things evolved to what they are today. It was proven already by those who engineered this saw what the true intentions of this model was meant for when they needed work. But yes I know of him, he "Walkerizes" chainsaws to this day still, I have a buddy that has a saw in his hands getting that treatment soon.
I had a heard of them . I restored a few and sometimes I would run them in my hand sometimes before I put it back in the case . I still have one that runs with the case . I gave all of them to friend of mine out in the country that has a small engine shop . Had a neighbor bring me his Step Dad's saw to see if I would work on it and it was a Mini Mac and it look like new but no fire (it was a points model sooo and gas poured out of the tank as fast as I put it in . I told him I ain't gonna fix that thang but I'll take it if you want to give it to me and he told his Step Dad and Step Dad said he would take it somewhere and get it fix ------ I said good luck with that . Then a few days later another friend brought me another and said here it's yours soooo I'm waiting for the Step Dad to give up the other one . I've took so many of those apart it doesn't take me very long to have the engine in my hand but the things are just to small . I do like the Mac 6 though they can have a fuel line problem and line is even hard to find on eBay but I did rig up a line on one of my friends Mac 6 that worked good but it was a few years back and I've restored so many saws I can't remember what I done and he passed and I don't know what happened to that saw . Donny Walker did a TH-cam video on those a few videos back on his channel . He's got them down .
Dealers would and wouldn't work on them, tike was money for them and they have the right to pick and choose what to work on. As for the PM6, the one thing to this day that slows down them being brought back to life is that unique fuel line. I use to have one laying around and it either got lost or hell I may have used it, but I would like to see if I could 3D print one if I could get my hands on another one.
@@mistermacgray I got a few PM6 to restore someday . My friend that passed had a few of them he picked up from eBay and I got all the saws he had except for one or two his neighbor had . I got one in the case that's like new with Mac tool kit and owners manual . I sure the one's that I need to go through probably gonna need the fuel line . I remember when you restored one here on your channel a while back .
@W G I have three of the pm6 cases and a user manual on my shelf that I use to display all the models in my house.
First thing I did was delete the automatic oiler and been using mine since, when it dies, I'll hang it up for an ornament in my shop. They suck to work on, no doubt
I beg to differ, they are easy to take aprt, simple to fix and when complete & fully functional I sell every one I can get my hands on for $124.99+shipping
Are they *that* bad compared to something like a PM310? I might be biased because i adore how old horizontal engined mcculloch saws look, but i would not mind working on that.
Shame really that it got tossed, but thankfully they are relatively common
Common because they were cheap and made to be thrown away. Labor to fix one of these at a dealer was the sane as a larger frame saw. These were $89 new, labor to fix one would exceed the cost of buying new. It's just the reality of the age that was becoming then that is now.
@@mistermacgray yea i got that but were they the same or worse as the larger frames saws quality wise, like the power mac 310
"have to take it apart to get to the carb". I just did 2 of these carb rebuilds. Easy job. Got 2 great running saws out of it. Don't be a whiner
Not worth the time to rip it all out to fix a carb on a throw away saw. I've fixed one on my mini mac 120 and that was enough. I pinned a comment on this video of a guy telling about them, they are true throw away saws. I have over 60 macs, I won't trip over a mini mac hitting the trash like it's designed to be put at some point.
Are these the same as the eager beaver?
Yes
@@mistermacgray every guy should have an Eager Beaver.
@@bigboresledder I have a mini mac 120, I say that in the video.
I love my mini mac.
When they run, they are great.
Dang I picked up 2 dirty ones with all the parts fully assembled for 5 bucks I got board and took one apart and cleaned it the inside is still shinny but questionable if it will be worth making my chainsaw if their is no replacements
i agree that these are a pain to work on, got alot of these to run again. but maaaaaaaaaaan, putting it back together makes me wish i didn’t even take it apart. always runs when i fix it tho, even if it’s done for i’d probably use it as a shelf ornament 😂
I have saws on the shelves, i don't need another one lol.
Takes like 15 minutes when you are handy with these.
That's 15 minutes of hoping all goes right. What nobody has proven to me yet that these weren't purposely designed to have obsolescence built into them I've done been told by makers and master warranty dealers for McCulloch that they were. Harsh reality is just because it was American made didn't mean it was made to last forever, just means it was made in a different time era before things all went over seas to be made.
Mr. Obsolete runs them but he cautions they are very finicky.
They are for sure.
had a fella send 2 different ones for repair both needed starter pulleys on top of other issues i boxed them up and sent them back worst saw ivr rvrt tried to work on...i have a mint one i know all it needs is a carb kit its sat on a shelf for 2 years lol ill tame the beast one of these days...
Someone gave me a Eagar Beaver, i watched videos, and i am doing what you said, its going in the scrap, i have several Macs and enjoy them greatly, and can probably fix that little saw, but at 69 yrs old i would rather spend my time on something like my model 47, or 250, or 610, or my favorite 10-10 auto, thanks for the tip.
Could have sold it to me I would have given you money for it
Wasn't worth my gas or time to sell off, shipping would be more than its worth. Millions of these were made and plenty have been put where they belong after their life use.
I'll pay the shipping if y'all want to throw them away in my trash can.
I just got one of these for free that needs a carb kit and a fuel line. Mine is a mini Mac 130 and is manual oiler only.
Well, ole boy. They are part of McCulloch history.
I have two of them and they were interesting to work on.
As a part of McCulloch history you have to accept that they, not me, designed this as a throw away saw. You don't have to accept the truth, but you can live the lie.
@@mistermacgray I removed the last sentence of my first comment. I shouldn't have typed that. I've turned into a grumpy old man in the mornings. But I have a huge amount of patience when working on saws or anything else.
I saw you throwing away history and parts that some younger person would have liked to have.
@Clint's Hobbies DIY I wouldn't want to give something like this to somebody and they think all of them are like this, pain to work on, not as your first...I explain that in the video too. I would rather them start with something simpler and work their way to this, even dealers had a challenge fixing these, when they did take them on.
Literally takes 10 minutes after you’ve done it.
Took less time to throw away a purpose designed throw away saw.
Mac made numerous models using the same saw mini mac 110, 120, 130 and 140. They made a Eager Beaver, a 2.0 model too. They also made a PM610 they called a Eager Beaver, 605, 610, 650, a Montgomery ward ward orange 610 too. Lots of renaming of the same saw. Lov team yellow!!!
Fun part taking the motor in a out and putting it in. Mini Mac 6
Do you mean Power Mac Does it fit because I would do that
All the complaining goes away after doing a couple. There's a process when reassembling, all you need to do is be patient and think.
Or just throw away the throw away saw as it's design intended. It's a 16hr saw, milking it out won't save it or make it more valuable. I saved one, the rest after it hit the trash.
@@mistermacgray What percentage of your audience would you believe to be saw enthusiasts, those who enjoy repairing, enjoy learning, enjoy the challenge? And what percentage of your audience are merely tool consumers having zero interest in anything other than using it until it's time to throw away? The utility in the latter is questionable, but maybe you've stumbled onto an ignored niche.
@motorrad2 not sure why you are wanting to keep going on with this, the saw is long gone and I'm not the only person to do this to a saw intended and by design to be thrown away, read the pinned comment from a guy who designed the saw. There are times when you beat a dead horse...thats fixing one of these and continuing to justify me spending time and money trying too. I play with bigger boy saws and engines for them, I personally like stuffing go kart engines into saw frames and spending my time doing that, not saving a at the time $89 throw away saw.
Stop looking at it or you’ll get it out 😂😂😂😂
She's long gone
i hav a 160s runs great was in a barn 15+ yrs. wit a broke pull cord. sounds like you kno what ur talkin about tho ill keep in mind if ever quits on me thanks
Damn of course I find this video the day I'm struggling with my Eager Beaver 2.0. I'm gonna pass it on to the next guy, which may be the dumpster. Too much hassle for a tiny saw.
They weren't meant to be saved, well depends on the person, but McCulloch designed to not be.
like em,dont forget gas tanks leak...lol
Mine had that issue too.
Black decker man is that true
Yes
These are some of the easiest saws to work on lol.
Not worth my time. If you read the pinned comment on the guy who helped design them, he tells you that they are throw away and not worth putting money into. I'll work on my PM6 before I work on one of these again.
@@JakePlisskin12 not that it's hard to work on these as much as I have larger fish to fry in that time. You should check out my channel and see the bigger fish I fry with my time.
Yup overheats and won't start but i like it paid 50 bucks still going 👍
@STRIDER185 mine paid itself off years ago on one job so if it blows up, owes me nothing.
🙀 I need that muffler🤦♂️
Put a pipe on it instead, it will look better
Junk points
Minimacs make great boat anchors