Powell Peralta Dragon Formula Wheels
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- What wheel should you choose on a skateboard? Depends, here are a few good answers.
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I'm definitely grabbing some of the 93's when it's time for a new set of wheels. Streets are rough out here, and being able to powerslide like that, I'm sold!
Dude you’ll be so stoked
they wont power slide on rough ground the only reason they are is because of how smooth the park is
@@averagerobuser he mentioned a bunch of times that the park is not smooth.
These wheels changed my skating, 56 93a. By Powell. @Powellperalta THANKYOU.
@@bakedbeings Maybe by California standards. It didn't look that bad to me except for the one rough spot
Bones makes a SPF 84 B, which is the equivalent to 104 a, which is honestly insane for me to know that there is a wheel harder than those 😂😂 they have such a weird feel to them!! I think 95-99a is the way to go. This video was sick! Skateboarding needs more videos showcasing the pros and cons to all their products, makes you feel good about what you're buying! Thanks for this :)
The wheel system is wild for sure but dude give these a to you won’t be disappointed 👊
Who told you that 84b was equivalent to 104a ? You fell for one of the biggest gimmicks in skateboarding that I thought was exposed and over with..... There is no such thing and never has been as 104a all wheels that are marked higher than 100a are FAKE gimmicks.... The industry was exposed more than 14 years ago over this..... But companies are looking for suckers that don't know better every minute....... Any company that pulls this crap should be boycotted..... They have made millions off of innocence and ignorance.....
Afaik there are other scales than the a scale and the b scale does rate lower, so 84b would indeed be harder than 99a for example, but you are right that it's mostly marketing.
Durometer ratings should only be used as reference points, because they are wildly inaccurate.
For example if you ever tried mini logo wheels, you will notice their 101a wheel is definitely softer than many 99a wheels of other brands.
I actually like the 104a spf wheels, because they feel great in indoor parks and despite being hard, they don't slip out at all. In fact they are rather grippy. But they are totally jarring on street.
So it is not possible for wheels to be 103a or something, but they can technically be harder than 100a, you'd have to use another scale then.
But in reality the wheels we skate, even the hardest ones, are more like 90-97.
Measurements over 90 are very inaccurate.
Just got a set of 54 mm dragon wheels and yeah, they're fantastic. Like everyone has been saying. They're a lot of fun. Not the best on super smooth ground but they cruise nicely over regular sidewalks, parking lots, driveways and streets.
Been skating Ricta Clouds for 3 years. 78a 86 and 92 (56mm) but 78 is my favorite if I'm just skating transition and doing ollies. 99a+ feels like skating marbles to me I feel every crack
I'm with you. I mainly just ride asphalt hills by my house. I have some Bones STF 103A V5s. Definitely like skating on marbles and pretty damn dangerous on hills IMHO. Way too slick. Absolutely no cushion at all. Mini Logo 90A or 95A are much more tolerable. The 101As aren't as hard as the Bones, but, still not my cup of tea. 80A AWOLs are pretty awesome for cruising.
I got the Dragons today. I've been skating 80A AWOLs which are great on rough ground. I bought several pairs recently. Kind of wish I would have got the Dragons before doing so though. They are pretty darn cool wheels. They seem good for just cruising around. Not harsh like hard wheels. But, indeed they are nice and slick. Good for power slides. I like them. The only thing I'm worried about is durability. I got a small chip in one of them already. But, admittedly, that was after a couple hours of doing almost nothing but power slides. One thing I would like to see though, is for Powell to make bigger ones. I got the 56mm V6 Wide Cut ones. I think the contact patch is 22mm, which is still narrow compared to something like AWOLs which are more like 35mm. I'm hoping Powell uses the formula in additional wheel shapes. I'm not really a huge fan of the Bones shapes. The ones I got work good though. They seem like a really good mix of being soft yet sliding good. They aren't bullsh+tting when they say that. It really does work. At least on the rough asphalt that I tried them on.
Thanks for just being yourself and it shows along with the fantastic skating been saying you need a pro board for at least a year now
I appreciate that, I try to keep it real 🙏
I think theñose experimental 95a wheels could made skateboarding more inclusive and accesible for developing countries. I live in Costa Rica and can confirm that most of the street spots surfaces are rough. As a matter of fact, I used to skate the 103a STFs (because I like to powerslide a lot, and those wheels can last a lot while doing that) up until the 99a STFs came out. I switched as soon as I could to make my life/ride a little bit easier, still be able to slide and have a durable wheel.
They’re incredible!!! You gotta give them a go when you get the chance. I used the Dragons in CR and they were incredible.
You and Dan can sell any skate product on the market, i literally follow everything yall say. Ive been patiently waiting for these wheels to be released.
The Dragons are out! X formula hopefully around September !!
Between this vid and Dan's truck vid I think I'm starting to have an idea on how I wanna set up my next board. I need to look into them flight decks, been out of the loop for a minute.
Flight decks are the best by far, definitely try it
love comparison videos. people who have the ability to try out stuff always should share their opinions to help other intermediate mates or them who are only able to afford one thing, which then should be the final
This was a great one to film because I needed to know the answer myself!
I have one pair of those minilogo trucks, and I love how they are designed. They were so positive surprise for a guy who has always ride with indys.
They’re not bad right?
@@ZachDoelling No, they are not bad at all. and the bonus is the price! Oh yeah and the shape, they're like done for locking into grinds even when brand new.
Ima buy those 93 dragons. I’ve always thought a soft wheel you could power slide on would be so fun for cruisin. I’m blown away they exist!
They are pretty rad!
@@ZachDoelling hell yeah! Thanks Zach. Sorry for spamming comments on your older videos. I need to watch the whole video and then comment ;). Btw I fck with colored wheels. Do the green ones skate the same? I never noticed any difference back in the day. Just wanted to make sure.
@@DazedCutty the green dragons are the same yes and it’s all good dude I appreciate the support! I sometimes don’t see replies but I generally see new comments and try to hit them back when I can 👊
Good shit, man! I’m 38 and have historically less-than-stellar knees, but as much as I love my hard wheels for slides and grinds, I’ve been experimenting a lot lately with softer wheels for less harsh landings. Once you get below maybe 95a though, things do tend to get awfully sticky. Coming out to LA a week from today to tour the parks for the week, so I’ll have to try and see if I can find some of these at a local shop while I’m there (if they’re available anywhere yet, I guess?)!
You’ll be stoked on the dragons then! Perfect wheel for what you’re looking for. Shops should have them yes, if not the website will 🙏🙏
@@ZachDoelling Sick! Yeah, just ordered a set of them form the site (93s were there, at least), but we’ll see if they can get to Austin before I come out there. If not, I’ll just have to grab another there, lol. 😂
Between yours and Dan's recent thoughts on them, I’m super stoked to check them out, now!
They are really good!
No question grabbing the 93s. This is literally what I've been waiting for my whole life.
You'll love them.
I ordered the 93 54mm from skate1 last night. I can’t wait!
You’re going to be stoked
Ya gonna like them!! They sick!!!
@@kennymartes good to hear, I’ve tried the 97 spitfire and many other wheels 87a and up can’t wait to slide on a softer ride
Good test and professional review🙏
Glad you think so!
Just got a set of 54mm dragons, soo excited to try them when the ground drys out
Just got mine. 🌧️ Maybe in a few days.
“ bare with me as I struggle “… does perfect krux 50 feet 🤯🤣💜💜💜
haha you know how it goes
I hope that everyone is having a great summer so far this year.
Powell Peralta are the best one to skate and having some training sessions of many random skatespot and ground got to be smooth and capable to skating all around different sections of this skatespot!
Dude you’ll love them, they’re called Dragons 🐉
@@ZachDoelling Definitely Nice Bro!
@@ZachDoelling Gotchu Bro!
There's my board! 🙂 Thanks again for sending man. 🙏
Wym?
You’re very welcome
If the wheels have grooves when they are new, that probably is affecting the slide. It sounded like they had grooves when you were trying the powerslide test. Once the grooves wear off, they will probably slide a bit different. All that said, you could probably sit on a crook with shark wheels... lol. I usually stick with 101 hardness because I need lipslides and boardslides to work on ledges without a ton of wax.
I've tried a prototype set of them, no grooves. They are amazing
I totally agree but I’ve been skating the 95 wheels for months now and they rule. I filmed this a few months ago and have been on the same set 👊
@@ZachDoelling Are they still going to be called STF? I've been back and forth between 101 STF's and formula 4's, but the rough nyc ground is getting annoying.
@@facksmasheen STF will remain the hard wheel. The 95 will be X formula and the 93 Dragons.
@@ZachDoelling I've used the 93a and outside of the one smooth concrete park around here they are my every day wheel. They work more than fine at that park, it's just with it being so smooth the 93A just feels too soft.
I think when the 95A drops for retail that will be my wheel for everywhere though.
Absolutely killer wheel and this is from someone who has never liked Bones wheels at all.
Giving us close ups of all the mini logo trucks and intentionally hiding the longboard trucks. This is the longest truck tease in the history of youtube.
😂😂😂
Idk if this means anything to anyone else but i skate 103a just because they feel most responsive skating street/park and they just grab the ground better. That stickiness is speedddd
Crazy nose grind at 9:25 zach 🔥
That was my go to for years!! Not anymore haha
video was sick, been lookin for new wheels lately so this was helpful
Nice you’ll be stoked on them!
I skate bones 100s which is tiny softer then your fav but I love them
Nice I like those as well
I skate SPF 81B they give a little more smoother ride than SPF 84B. Very interested to try out those new wheels! Great video! Thank you!
You'll be super stoked, great wheels!
@@ZachDoellingBTW: What bushings do you ride? Bones Hard?
I think softer wheels work better for someone like me who just scoots around town.
I remember watching a Dan Corrigan video where he was testing some whacky wheel that was super soft but you could still slide it easily. I think it was something experimental by Bones, as well. I'd love to watch you ride a REALLY soft wheel, like a 78 or something, for the laugh.
Anyway, great video.
Stay cool
Nice, those were the same wheels. They’re rad! You’ll be stoked on the dragons I think, they’re very fun.
@@ZachDoelling How do they compare to Mini Logo 95 or 90a?
@@idmhead0160 depends on what you like to skate, however unless price is an issue the softest wheel I would recommend are the Dragons.
@@ZachDoelling I got the 56mm V6 Dragons today. They are a really fun wheel. Tested them on a medium rough asphalt hill today. Did a bunch of power slides. They work good. Personally, I cannot stand hard wheels for riding on asphalt like that. I have some Bones 103As and found that to be completely unusable for that. The Dragons on the other hand are pretty excellent. I also compared them to Mini Logo 90A and 95A. Dragons definitely slide way better. The Mini Logos are a lot stickier. The only thing I'm concerned about is durability. I already have a small chip out of one after only a couple hours of skating. Though admittedly, most of that time was spent doing nothing but power slides. Personally, I would like to see Powell use this formula in wheels in other shapes. In particular, it would be nice if they made a wheel that had a wider contact patch. The widest Bones shape is only 22mm, which is still pretty narrow. I'm not doing real skating like you are though. I'm an old timer riding around on hills. The Dragons aren't really designed for that. So, I can't really fault them. Also, the wheels are $42 which is a bit on the high side. That's fine if they hold up, but, if they don't, that's a bit pricey. I never tried the 99A Bones. So, I can't compare to those, but, softer wheels are a dramatic improvement over the 103A ones on rough ground. It's about time, someone made a soft wheel that can slide like that. Good job Powell.
@@idmhead0160 try satori goo balls for cruising, there 78a so fully soft cruiser wheels but they slide real easy, I tried heaps of wheels, g slides, bombers, snakes and several longboard brands. The goo balls are the best soft slippery wheels
Lol I’m dead 💀😂, My dude said “when I think 93 A I think cruiser wheel, not street/park”. I skate a 87A park wheel!😂😂 Skating and it’s individualism is beautiful!
Hey man when you usually skate the 103a that's what I thought haha
@@ZachDoellingif you think that you are riding a 103a wheel, then you will fall for any gimmick in skateboarding because there is no such thing.... Once the wheel reached 100a it was nothing but a gimmick between all the companies to fake out the buyer and pretend that your wheel was even harder and better than the next, it was a game of stupid put together by the industry, skateboarding is loaded with gimmicks.....
@@ron8935
I’m aware the scale isn’t accurately represented in skateboarding and is used for marketing, what I can tell you is that a 103 Bones STF is in fact, a harder wheel than a 99 a or a 101 a STF bones wheel, don’t forget This is what I do for a living, you can argue the scale, but you can’t argue the fact that the wheel is just harder. Go to a skate shop and grab a side of each and check for yourself.
@@ZachDoelling well I have the gauge that reads the durometer it is a $600 tool used for the printing process..... And I agree that a 103" " is harder than a 99, but only by 1°....
@@ZachDoelling .... What you do for a living ?? I worked at Creative Urethane in Purcellville Virginia for 24 years and made all the powell-peralta wheels and many many others and I know the gimmicks.... And there is no such thing I'm telling you now.... Never was and never will be..... The company's only started using the B scale when they got caught in their scam making things up just to be harder than the next wheel on the market..... Know your history then kicked up dust....
Yeeeahhh the 93's. Unbelievable! 😉👍
They are sick
Bones STF for life! Every time I get different wheels I regret it but each to their own
Same but these are different
52mm 93a Dragons are the perfect wheels.
How are the 93a hardness? Thinking of getting some of them (Dragons) from Skate1
Awesome, depends on what you skate though. I think the 95 is a perfect all around, the 93 if the parks you skate are especially rough
Seeing how shook you are after every trick is so funny 😂
Awesome control test.
Fun times
great video loved all the comparisons!!
Thank you!
Never doubt George.
Love them brother ❤️ super sick wheel ..... Dragon formula 93A 56mm .....omg locking in krooks ..50s better 😀 No complaints here 👌
My old bones are loving the oj nomads 95a. They still slide good on ledges and stuff but roll nice over cracks and rocks and our shitty canadian pavement.
Nice you'll love the 93's they are the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels.
@@ZachDoelling ya il be getting those forsure when they come out. Always was a bones guy but lately I've been experimenting with shapes, inverted king pins and wheel softness alot lately as I'm not stuck in the 90s anymore skating a 7.25 popsicle lol.
Great video! I think this is the first time watching your channel, and this video was awesome! Think you could do a comparison of the 95a to the 97a next?
I haven’t skated the 97 yet but I would love to. They might get their own video. Also thanks for checking out the channel
Yo zach how about a video on your perfect set up.
I gotta say that there are a lot of TH-camrs who do really shitty reviews/comparisons, but this is not one of them. You said it’s not the best test, but I think it’s about as close to an actual scientific test as you can get haha. Great job.
My favorite is bones spf 54mm, have you tried skate park formula? They are legit
I have skated them yes, they’re rad for sure
Nice video - need more like this out there. I usually use 97-99a side cuts at parks. On the actual street I have experimented with 87a-95a. Just really depends on your terrain and what you are trying to do with them, but it does make a huge difference when you are that dialed in. On a side note, still trip out on your McGill reissue video. Crazy how easy you made that look and how you were able to keep that smooth style 👊🏼
Thanks for the kind words!
That’s the exact issue this wheel was supposed to solve, having a wheel for both rough and smooth and they nailed it
When are the experimental wheels going to release?
Between you and Dan, I'm really wanting to try them.
The Powell ones are up on Skate1 now! 🐉 www.skateone.com/skateboard-wheels/dragons
They should be in shops soon!! The X in like September
@@johnny_jun_ already sold out of 56mm 😞
@@fuckmyego More skateshops are stocking up on them now and Skate1 will probably have them in-stock again shorty.
@@fuckmyego I think Tactics has them. That's where I got them. The 56mm wide cut ones, V6. The wheels work good. I got mine today.
Would you mind giving give a heads up when the bones 95 is out ? It’d be dope to give them a try and feel.
Yes I’ll mention in a video for sure, should be around September tho
Thanks for the explanation. My regular skate has 99a, seems normal. Trying to find wheel hardness on my Andy Anderson 7 ply I bought online, complete, assembled from TGM, I realized there is no info. Worse than that, the truck axles are a full 1/2 inch narrow. Can't return it, so I need to get the 169 trucks it should have, and a deck for these 8.63 trucks. Everyone learns at their own pace, buyer beware. I should have taken a better look way before now, but who can have too many boards?
That’s how it goes sometimes always best to try and buy from shops if possible or be very careful and order individual components. Too many boards never hurt haha
I like the vibes of your videos ! this one very interesting honestly ,i have the classic sptitfire (yes competiton lol) formula 4, 99 A for a long time and i think about to try another hardness, so nice to see this ;) where do you ride ? SF ? LA?
Nice that’s a great wheel. I skate LA, and these wheels work everywhere. I’m on the 95a, but I’ve used them all over the world with delight
Great vid going to buy 95s probably but i once had some soft wheels that slid very well too but as soon i powerslid a bit they flatspotted very quickly. I heard you been skatin the 95s how did they hold up for flatspotting?
Been skating the set from
This video filmed 3
Months ago everyday! Solid ass wheel
Only skating park, so give me the hardest wheels possible... Riding STFs... :)
So now that the Powell Dragons are out, I'm guessing the Bones 95a is something similar?
Zach great video dude 🤙🏼
Thank you man!
You should do a powerslide test
I did a quick one in this video
Are those 95a wheels already released? If so, what's their name?
(I get that at the moment of the video they are not out, just wondering if the video was filmed weeks ago and they are out now)
They should be out near September, also in a 97!
Bones Bombers are a great cruzer board wheel because they’re super smooth/soft and you can power slide at any speed. With ceramic bearings you can easily beat a scooter 🛴 and pay respect to you health.
If you need a great artist for board art find Nick Akins in Tahoe.
Nice those are good. Thanks for the heads up, idk about board graphics but I could use some new tattoos
Good reviews brother!!!!
Thank you!!
Such an interesting episode! I have always skated the hardest wheels I could find, STF's have been a long time favorite, mostly for durability but also because of the feel sliding and grinding. I think if the durability is just as good and the feel is basically the same, there's no reason to stay on super hard wheels anymore! This should count as a PSA. Way better than the company harassment policies I had to do this morning...I have to call HR to change my pronouns to It and they...
Dude yeah I was a believer for sure in STF we been skating those for years but this day showed me otherwise and I’ve been on the 95a since!! I’ll bring some for you next time I cruise out 🤘
@@ZachDoelling sicc!
If you come to germany and one of these boards are in your yard bring it use your signature and give it to me 😅👌
Convinced me
Same haha
If you're up for it, would love to see you do any variation of my name! Maybe on a bank to ledge or out ledge
I have one in a video coming out soon!
Can you do a comparison with Mini Logo 90A and 95A compared to the new experimental ones?
I compared them. The Dragons slide way better. I'm convinced.
any wheel that makes a skrrrt sound when sliding is good enough for me lol
Amen
Skating smaller boards for a vid could be a cool idea aswell
I did recently it was like a 7.3
I think you’re just too good and can skate anything
🙏😂
can you make a video on your trucks?
I'm a hussy for speed.
In baby smooth parks, how do the experimental hold up for speed vs the STF?
Obviously on crap ground the experimentals will be faster.
On the streets they are flat out faster. At a perfect park the STF might be a bit better, however I’m skating the X even at parks out here.
@@ZachDoelling I've been doing the SPF 104s in the local transition park and STF 103s in the street park. I'll probably pick up some 95s next month when they are available - hopefully in a 54mm v5
I've seen a lot of skaters mention they hate square rails, at least for grinds. I've only got a square rail at my local, should I not even bother trying to learn any grinds on it and stick to slides? Are square rails just harder or what
Learn them for sure, it’s just easier to lock in and stay locked in for several grinds on round rails.
Interesting... would you consider trying different size wheels?
100%, I've been on 52's for a while, recently went to 54 even experimented with 56 haha
Can you drop link for the wheels when they release. Very interested.
Yes I’ll post to my community board
Is the Flight deck your personal shape for your promodel? Can't wait for the graphics if it is 🤞
If I get a pro model someday, hopefully they make it a flight deck yes but I would be happy either way
@@ZachDoelling make a street part edit
@@davidvanvliet193 sitting on 3 👊
@@ZachDoelling The Man 💪👊
Hello Zach
i have Mini logo 95A maybe i Switch for Powell 97 A
Skate one 💪🏻
Powell peralta ☠️💘
Zach doeling 💪🏻👍🏻✨👏👏👏
Yes give the X formula a good when they come out 👊👊
wait how tf do I get these wheels? Awesome wideo as usual!
The dragons are available the X in September. Check your local
Shop
what brand are those reverse kingpin trucks on the fight deck?
No brand or anything
@@ZachDoelling damn! I learned to manuel on that type of truck (paris), then had to re-adjust when I got minilogos... Ones you have seem to fit the deck well, would like to find some of thems. Ordered some of those 93s from skateone and should be rolling on them thursday. Super stoked! Thanks to you and the rest of the Powell band for this virtual window to all those sick parks y'all got over there in skater disneyland, 'tis great inspiration.
Any idea on when these will come out?
Should be out this month or early next month
What trucks are you skating on your flight deck?
Kooky longboard trucks lol
How is the powell grip fam? Anything close to mob?
Very grippy. Just as good yes
How do they weigh up against the ricta clouds?
I would choose these myself, without hesitation. I think between each of these wheels you have all of the bases covered.
Damn that vid was heat
🙏🙏
Wheels
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Throw them likes up, Everybody!
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Pretty sure the hardest wheel is the park formula
Yup you’re right
please implement timestamps :)
That dragon formula must be top secret like KFC original recipe 🍗
Might have found myself a new wheel next time I replace mine.
100%
Start riding the 95s zach
Oh I have been pretty much since day one!
Im a bones guy
If it dont skrrrrrrt i dont want em.
spf ftw.
The 97 X formula screams
Bet naturally I have the best wheels
Part 2 transition
What’s that
doeling mean to fend off the Chinese cook but still Chinese cook want took
I hear ya ?
@@ZachDoelling yea meng around is toof schools and toof hospital fix the cook big but no toof fix on Chinese mudder fooker do
Nice to see you mind blown
😂👊
You speak so eloquently. Thanks. lol 🤔
Just doing my thing haha idk