just being curious here,isn´t more effective to use chest piece from gunship (leather one) to get more hit and expertise so you can gem more ap / haste?
It's more worth to use Spellpower gear at the moment, instead of the items this dude shows. Meta changed because of a bug that people exploit. And funny enough, this dude, with one single LOD kill in his statistics, shows people how to play enhancement and how to gear it up.. People, please.. wake up!
Not sure if you monitor this video still but you say not to gem pure haste or agi or atp? If one were to gem the stark gem which is 20 atp and 10 haste, would one gem pure Stark gems in all available slots? Besides a nightmare tear to unlock meta gem of course lol
I dont think that its wise to cast Wolves first, because they copy your stats upon summoning. So if you summon them before you do drop totems, cast Shamanistic Rage, get trinket procs, Bloodlust, you loose a big DPS Gain.
What - No you cant waste a global cd mid fight when everyone else is popping their cooldowns, they last for 45 seconds which is a long ass time and the bonus they get from totems and such are not vital because enhancement shamans are not meant for burst - wolfs are just a tool to have some burst damage. They still benefit from passive buffs such as totems and bloodlust - So no mate you are wrong - always cast them in the beginning of the fight
@nedim kahrimanovic If you use the burst (almost every class) early in the fight you may can use then again before battle ends specially because the battles are almost 5 min duration (almost all bosses) and the burst cd is around 3 mins cd So then you'll do more damage (not dps but damage along the fight)
@@brandonkruse6412 Yes you want to pop them right away for the love of god you get to the boss faster, more damage instantly, you can't manage wolfs around trinket procs and shit lol, but go right ahead and do less dps if that is what you wish
@@plussix5517 agreed, same as ghoul pop as FDK you don't want to wait for trinket procs to pop it and waste GCD better do it on start and prioritize your rotation only reason for UHK not doing it right away is because it cost 60 runic power so you can't use it before the fight or right when it starts. Thank you for the guide and ignore the goons your guide is helping the smart players!
Do you happen to have an armory or anything so I can see everything that I should go for? I know the rotation and such but gear I'm not sure what to go for, like should I wear a mail piece that has arp on it or not? That kind of thing
hi man. what u think about jar and sts if u have 770 haste without procs and relic. or sts and dbw? since dbw is great dps burst and at end game guild boss fight coming shorter
It could work but the thing with jar is just that it deals about as much as Flame Shock in a 5 min fight - and since basically all fights are 5 min (appart from maybe LK), the pure 340 AD you get from herkuml is just greater because you're high and low damage is just always higher throughout the fight. And no dont go BDW since if you proc crit you will cry - you don't need crit at all since you already have like 70-75% crit during combat. The 340 100% uptime AD from herkuml is just too good for enhancement.
@@plussix5517 but is also contributes in stacks for MW5 and flametongue weapon, which both go up (als proccing you P4 set bonus). So saying it does as much as flameshock is not sufficient enough explanation; dps checks on dummies do. This would count for the whole discussion on Taiaj, not only leaving herkuml (its amazing dont ever drop it). Let me know what you think.
Yea so I did try it out as I said in the video on bloodqueen (which is just tank and spank all around) and also on dummies for 2 minutes, but if you want to prove me wrong you are welcome to do so where you have jar equipped and it doesn't deal the same amount of damage as your flame shock. The research I did with my gear on the trinkets are the ones stated above. And since flametongue wep is online for your off-hand it deals such a low precentage of damage that it isn't necessary to put resources into making that specific spell deal more damage. That's my take on it. I am though not active on the server anymore so if anything has changed I would not know. Thanks for the comment and I might login to do additional research and if I do come up with anything different I will probably post it here as wel.
@@plussix5517 the hit is too much for me atm plus taiaj going to other specs (retri etc). Cannot really test it, if I ever get my hands on it I do plan on dummy bashing (all skills included) to evaluate the damage as a whole and ofc uptime on buffs. Thanks for the response!
That's a big no mate. It has an internal CD and if your WF procs from your offhand it's gonna be 6 sec till it can proc again. Always WF on main hand and nowhere else
what about putting that one last talent into less shock cd instead of 2% int as your shocks are your main spells and those 2% of int might only get you about 20 actual int i know that kind of min maxing is kinda awkward but since i am also playing this much enh shamy i think every half (or even forth) a second you dont do something or wait for your shock is a waste of time cuz you always have a button to press, even if its just filling in a lightning shield refresh or magma refresh, so in theory that 0,2secs off of your shocks might build up into a slightly smoother execution of the rotation -> less dmg loss = dmg increase ok i didnt want to write so much about so little of value cuz i also got another question: what is your opinion on weapon enchants berserk vs mongoose? I always believed that berserk is much better due to the fact that you can align both proccs with your wolf, but in reality you just use your wolf on the beginning of a fight or when burst is needed, so you dont rly get full value out of the glyph like you would in pvp also going full haste or full ap isnt good as you already mentioned, the mongoose procc provides ap, crit and some haste (so the balanced route) and the next point is I recently heard about mongoose not having a procc cd like berserk has, so in theory the more haste you have the more likely it is to last all fight long basicly my brain is too bad to do the math (and i think im not the only one here) so im asking if you tried both options (or maybe your the weird guy who plays each on one weapon) and have a clear preference?
Hell of a reply mate haha.. So for the first question - it's not just plain out 20 actual int beacuse its 2% of your total manapool which I cba doing the math on but it's more than 20 int. And for the shock spells - it's an okey idea, havnt really tried it but the thing is that you don't need the .2 sec reduction because you should always press earth shock when it's 6 sec left on your flame shock. And I mean ALWAYS - because that means that you press your shock spells every 6 seconds. And another thing - if you're having downtime with only autoattacks then you are doing something wrong mate because this class always have an ability open - if you do the rotation correctly. 2nd: You go berserk - always berserk, for your wolfs first of all - because you basically always the get the proc when you proc your windfury, it doesn't matter if it has a cooldown all that matters is that you want to balance the berserk proc with your haste totem (the relic). Mongoose doesn't give that much attack power because it's 1 agi = 1 attack power which is not required at all since it's only gives you 120 atk power vs 400 (berserk). Remember to rotate your shock spells correctly and you won't have downtime at all basically. Thanks for a good comment
And another thing about the value of the glyph - you need it, and I mean NEED IT because you wont stand a god damn change otherwise which classes that have way better burst than you such as dks, rogues and retri paladins. It's cool to see that you know about the berserk / wolf combo but they so insane amounts of damage if you have the glyph - so don't even second guess yourself about it mate
@@plussix5517 thanks for your fast reply even thought this video is a bit old now :) yes i know that you always have a spell open, but it often happens the situation that you can press any button (mostly stormstrike) when you have about 1-0.5 cd on your earth/flame schock which feels like pain cuz i dont wanna get global cd before pressing a shock which feels like a stacking waste of time each global cd before pressing it (basicly making your shock cd higher or you make the stormstrike cd higher) and a dmg loss, thats why i sometimes think haste cant be that bad to be gemmed in more than ap due to the fact(it is, or?) that haste lowers our global cd but this is just the opinion of an enh main who raided until ~5.9ish gs and now im starting my enh on a new server where naxx is the "newest" content, just to feel the early game of whole wotlk and i want to optimize my enh even more :) i wont second guess the wolfs glyph now but my perfectionism mind wants me to test out mongoose even though i never had problems with berserk because you have to use wolfs in the beginning of the match which means they dont get the benefit of the berserk proccs that comes seconds later (i believe the wolfs stats get locked the time they get summond, like the snapshotting mechanic on ferals/warlocks, but i may be wrong on this) so the question for me is only if my rotaions benefits more on 800ap on cd or with 240ap, some melee crit and overall haste with the potential to be up at all times ok i need to stop, sry for these long ass coments ^^' but i rly apreciate your thoughts on this as there are only a small amount of good enh shams
@@Takujaki Ye it's old.. im getting old feels bad man.. But nah I just kinda came back to the server like a week ago so trying to be active here on this video too. But before I try to answer these thoughts: don't worry about the length of the comment mate - it's interesting to hear you out because you have some good thoughts. But yea so there's macros for the global cd if that's what bothering you so much. I can try to make it here in the comments - it looks something like this: /stopcasting /cast Earth Shock /stopcasting what this macro does - is that it allows your character to cancel whatever it is your character is doing at that point when u press the macro which allows for ''quicker'' global cds. But this is something that I thjink you really need to practice - because this shouldnt be an issue for you at all - with enough practice that is. And about the wolfs - yea sure their auto attacks dont change - but then again, some fights are longer than 3 minutes which makes it possible to use the cooldown again. But this isnt something you should put into account - I mean this isnt something that you should think about at all. And for the last question - your rotation will always benefit more from the 800 ap than the tiny haste / agi you get. Another reason why mongoose is bad for enhance is because you already have like 80%+ crit chance in combat which means that the crit part of the agility proc is utterly useless. And that simply means that if your class cant utilize fully from an enchant - that means that you should not have it.
I would rather have 4% static LB damage than 2% increased WF chance or hell even the 5 min cooldown reduction on the Fire Elemental. Real talk tho, Fire Elemental is hidden op. It does so much damage and with that glyph you can have it up for every boss fight.
i also wondered why the 2% windfury damage, it seems really small, theres for example a glyph that gives 20% lightning shield damage which sounds alot higher, but i guess it depends how much lightning shield does compared to windfury on total damage, but when its 2% compared to 20%, cmon
Surely gem haste is better. There’s no cap on how fast you deal white damage even if the amount per hit is less haste outweighs attack power. More frequent attacks means more maelstrom procs which means more lightening bolts cast. Haste boss here and I’m bossing endgame content on my current enhance sham always top 3 dps
this guy constantly says that to much haste fucks up your shock rotations, make fiery run out to quickly causing you to lose shock damage here and there which i guess adds up, idk the class looks the most interesting and im about to jump right in for classic wrath
Thanks for the vid, just about to go onto a new server opening soon and plan on playing enhancement. Any tips for someone who will be pre-icc? No worries if not, will be my first time maining Shaman as I've always liked the look of enhancement.
Oh ok that's cool! Unfortunately all I can inform you with is the fact that enhancement isn't too great before ICC, and that's because the tier sets before ICC aint too great. But other than that it's the same stat prio, build and whatnot. (Talents may vary) But ye mate glad to hear you like the look of enhancement as much as I do :D Thanks for the comment!
So you are playing with ~500 Arp, right? Is Arp as a stat even valuable enough? At the moment i preffer going a 0 Arp build with caster (Haste/Spellpower) scale, however I get my 16% hit without gemming for it, instead Im going for full haste/expertise. The Build works well so far for me (have to say Im at 6,4k, probably wouldnt work with low gear). Are you really sure full haste is not an option? And why are you going Arp build with Arp being not really that good below the 1200 threshhold?
Not sure where you get the number 500 from, I literally have the boots and the trinket that gives me about 300 arp. Arp is completely useless, in STS case, you use it for the proc, just as any other mdps. And as for the boots, they are bis simply because you get more statvalue off of them. Higher int, ap, agi everything. I know for a fact that full haste is not a valid option because you're auto attacks dont deal enough pure damage for you to be top on the meters, now that's not the case for me because I've figured out the most valuable way to go about this spec. Again, not sure what you mean by ''arp build'' I literally have 2 items with arp
+ sindra 25 man heroic neck (which also has a better statvalue than festergut 10 man heroic). 383 Arp would be the Arp with an "Arp-Build", 500 was just a wrong estimate. But with your statement that the Arp is practically useless (which is what i think aswell) you clarified that already. I do understand that the AP procc of STS is insanely good. But with Arp being useless i wonder if a build with going fpr 0 Arp and double haste trinkets is better (as Arp only gets good the more you have) - you get up to 1500 meele haste because you don´t have to gem for hit rating. I´ve asked quite some people about Arp offparts/STS and many say Arp in BiS gear is decent while others (me included) go for lower item lvl offparts with hit (despite worse statvalue). Oh and don´t get me startet on how badly glancing ruinied my day when i was trying an Arp-Offparts/STS Build. Also: I´ve never heard you have to balance out AP and Haste (as long as your crit/haste is balanced out). At a certain gear level your AP will probably reach 5k+ unbuffed without gemming for it, which definitly makes haste the best stat. The explanation "if you only go haste your autoattacks will do no damage" doesn´t click to me as you already get so much AP and crit from your gear. Just wanted to know your opinion about hit offparts (especially because you are wearing only one in form of festergut 10man heroic) By the way excuse my bad english, im not a native speaker :D Btw just saw your SF 25 man heroic DPS, I don´t know exactly how much Dps I´d do on that boss, gonna test it tomorrow evening and write again ;)
@@the_l0st317 Arp is useless, IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU, but the fact that the proc, is insane doesnt go away, 30% of your total atp transfers into sp is something u clearly dont value for some reason.. it's the same for multiple classes bro. you use trinkets for it's passive. I'm not sure what kinda double haste trinket you would use, and 1500 haste to way too much. As for crit / haste..., you dont need to balance it at all since you have fucking 70% crit chance in combat, all your damn abilities crit, it's just how the class is made to be. And no, I just because you have over 5k ap doesnt make it a worse stat, AP for enhance is extremely good because all your abilities value from the attack power stat, spells, autos, fucking everything, and that's also why high / low damage is extremely important because they manage your actual crit damage from all your abilities - hence attack power super good, too much haste = too fast ticks of flame shock = cant juggle them = fucked gbc = worse dps. And yea, that was with total shit gear mate, 6.3k and 251 ring and arp bracers. Well if you upload the recording of the video of your damage I will believe that you can do more, nowadays though, I do 17k in 10 man :)
@@the_l0st317 And as for the neck, it's bis becuase it makes you perfectly hit capped, you can't change the boots for example because they have less hit, the neck from sindy fine, but they you need more gems with hit which is not as good, you're more than welcome to follow my path, or make your own, but i'd be surprised if you'd do more damage than me honestly and can prove it
is there any actual, hard math to back up the necessity to balance haste vs AP in such a meticulous way? I feel like the stats differ fundamentally in that AP will always give you the same flat damage increase per stat, while haste is more dependant on the players ability to utilise Maelstrom quickly and maintain a clean prio during the fight (with additional sonsideration after hitting GCD cap). If you play well, It'll be better, if you're shit, It'll be worse than AP. I'm on 840 haste with zero buffs/procs, while having less AP than you do, and it feels "right". Very fast Maelstrom, no empty gcds ever. Just a thought. Very nice video overall, will test some things based on your style
Tbh it feels like he heard something about it and can't explain it. So i will try to do it couse i dont think he is right here. On different private server there was a group of shamans that was wandering how much haste is good to play enha and they not only tested dps manually with same items etc on test realm but also they slightly modified rawr so it calculated which haste amount is best. It turned out both in simulations amd practice that best value is 1025 - why is that? Because if u have that haste, you get flurry proc and pop BL you are haste hardcapped and any more haste on top wont give you anything so its a waste of stat.
@@potworzgo your melee whitehits can always get faster, regardless of GCD cap. haste is never giving you "nothing" as you claim, but at very high values its benefit diminishes because it becomes harder and harder to play cleanly and use maelstrom quick enough.
hello Plussix, in one of your videos u mentioned that all this guide is based on 15 years experience so i am guessing you played in vanilla as enh as well. i wanted to ask you if you remember which were the absolute best profs for pve raiding back in vanilla times. thanks
i think windfury weapom was fixed. i have 5645gs, not all gems. glypsh: stormstrike, lava lash, chain lh. and only do around 4kdps single target on hc dummy. in raid only around 6k dps. also, i have talents with a little bit more sustain. is that normal? damn, this class in wotlk is hard af... in cataclysm was much easier
Maybe they've patched it since i've been away - imma have to look that up. But yea, remove those glyphs. And if you have 6.5k gs - you should be doing 9-11k like me on a dummy. And you don't need to have a sustainable spec since you have so much mana either way.
@@plussix5517 i only have 5645gs and was wondering if 4k+ dps is normal on hc dummy. Btw, one of the best guild raider shaman dps had full haste gems. Now im confused who i should be following. And should i remove mana regen talents with undeveloped gear? With shamanistic rage i dont have problems with mana so far
@@Saldutiskis oh mb, kinda newly awake, 4k dps on a dummy is utter shit mate, either you have the wrong gems or the wrong rotation. And for the talents, nah just keep the mana sustain talents for now until you reach about 6.1k gs. And for the shaman - he's doing it completely wrong because of the fact that his auto attack damage isn't justified by his haste so i'd guess he does maybe 15k dps at best in ICC.
@@Saldutiskis Which btw is kinda pathetic considering he probably has every bis item - which I don't. Plus, I linked a video in the description with a pov of my friend and me raiding in our guild where you can clearly see the dps possible if you play this class right.
I have been reserching for a guide that doesnt just use full haste or full AP. Thank you, i totally agree with you. Still i want to try out the jar bc i think It should work. Great video i wish you had uploaded more WoW videos
kutsoul99 I remember once me and plusthree were hitting the dummies in ironforge for research purposes. Comes out taij is not that efficient as an ap/haste proc trinkets. Even dbw could be considered better. Still can log on icecrown to proove :).
@@idabegai No mate it's still the best enhancement trinket.., DBW is not better at all, and if my word doesn't prove that then perhaps you should look up the best enhancement on the server (orc shaman) - he's wearing it too. I am telling you why dbw is bad for enhance in the video and that is SIMPLY because you do not want the crit proc what so ever. And the arm pen passive stat doesn't do anything for you either so.
Okay this video is bothering me massivly, and i know its 3 years old, but still... A) tiny abom isn't just "600" dps, its additional weapon swings, additional attempts and wind fury procs, if you have Flame tong weapon that also will do an additional proc, its a faster build up of maelstrom. "just 600" dps from the proc is not just 600 dps. B) you profesion explanation is horrible, every prof (excpet herblism) gives you the equivlemnt of 2 gems worth of stats (more or less), Tailoring is a bad idea because it takes off a stat you really really want, for a stat you really really want - its a natural move, you still get the 2 gems sockets worth of states more, but its a side ways move. JC+BS are really good - gives you more momvent in your stat stacking. and you sitting there like go leather working, big AP boost - its the SAME AP boost as going Encnhating, JC, BS, even a scribe. Also your explanation of how your maths is so triggering. I don't see you doing any research and bluffing your way past this video. Take the info in this video with a pinch of salt. Do more research. you dont want to open with wolves.... you want to pop wolves AFTER you get ur procs up. you have a build up AP trinket, you have a PROC trinke,t you have a PROC ring, wolves after 3 seconds, or after heroism is popped atleast. No your understanding of hit/miss/glancing/crit is terrible. its either a hit or miss, if it misses, it misses. end of story, if it HITS it can either crit, glance, or hit. If you have higher crit it will push out the glancing/hits. More crit does not = less misses. more crit = less glancing/hit. Misses are misses.Also really bothers me how you cant say gems or agility. and no, all shields are spells, they all have a GCD, retail + private servers.
I can tell that its bothering you massively since you went all hero-mode on my ass and wrote yourself a bible. All imma say is do it your own way. glhf
Let me guess, youre one of those that don't realize Z is actually pronounced as ''ZED'' and not ''C''..? If youre interested in grammar, I recommend you go bother someone else cuz I've heard this shit for about 4 years now - this is supposed to be an informative video, not a way for people to come and tell me the same shit 4 years later. Have a good day
@@plussix5517 If you've been hearing it for 4 years maybe fix it? but in all seriousness that was mostly a joke because I understand cultural grammatical differences regardless of how ridiculous they make your entire country sound, to me. Easy to see why you only have 150 subs though after making content for years.
@@plussix5517 nope. I was a 6.3 enha shaman in Warmane (molten) but I quited the server for the enormus amount of bugs and stupidity that the server had. I just cant ignore that you are 6,5k enhancement (obviously either guild boosted or donated) and you totally skip engineering as a proffesion which is a must or the fact that you dont know what hit rating enhancement shamans should have to optimal DPS.
@@kostaskollias4100 it's quiet cute that u think ive donted my gear my dude. As you can see I dont even have bis in this video. I just do a shitton of damage and people wondered how. So here it is. And yea sure you can go engineering if u value the haste that u get from the gloves, though it is not needed. At all. And the fact taht u point out hit rating, is fucking stupid because if you believe that I am in the wrong then this conversation is over. Lmao
@@plussix5517 all that said from the guy who doesnt know what dual-wield specialization talent does, now THAT'S cute. The fact I am pointing out engineering is that you can use the enchant on hands AND shamanistic rage together (also shamanistic rage always had GCD). Also most fights in ICC and RS are always a phase changing fights which makes engineering bursting so much better (and helps with mana when you combo it with shamanistic rage). I am also questioning you as a donor because throught my experience in molten there was never a raid leader that would give STS to an enha rather than any other Ar.P hungry spec. Which means you either donated or your guild is kind enough to give it to you with DKP system or whatever you use.
I have a full enhance Shaman at the wow brasil server... and i must say that this vídeo is the most accurate avaliable on internet. There are a few points that i disagree, but thats minimal. Engineering is not a must have profession. Haste is not the stat that we need to Chase relentlessly, JC and LW are the better options by far. But i found out that in order maintain your dps, having a shit ton amount of haste and Eng profession is not as great as a perfectly balanced attack Power and Haste.
right mr man, why dont u tell me how to play this class and leggo big boy - u dont think there's a reason why I made this video? you dont think there's a reason why basically all the enhancement shamans you see on wotlk private servers are using my way of playing? tell me what misinformation im spreading instead of stating something that is false
@@plussix5517 Your haste should reach the cap to lower the gcd to 1s, this maximizes the downtime between skills, you nedd between 1300 and 1400 for this, you are NOT haste capped, since enha can cast something every single second this is important. Int does NOT provde sp, improved str totem gives you 22 str and agi for 3 talent points... it's just terrible. Lava lash is nowhere as bad as you make it, is low on the rotation because it does a little less damage than other skills but you need to factor in the +1 count to maelstrom wich is basically adding 20% the damage of a lightning, also is waaay more mana friendly and more impontant than all it procs your flamethonge or windfury on your off hand, also doesn't need to be talented like fire nova to do all this. I can't remember what else you said on the video but im pretty sure that i can go on, so tell me, do you want me to continue?
@@ginebro1930 1: Haste does not decrease youre global gcd's as an enhancement shaman in wotlk, becuase youre thinking about a different expansion - now that being said, there are 2 classes in the game that can decrease gcds which are disc priests and unholy presence dks. 2nd: Int does not improve sp? Ok, well then u need to re-read the talents because 30% of ure ap transfers to sp, 100% of ur int becomes ap - so again, how is int not sp? Jesus man that's embarrassing. And no 22 str and agi is not awful because it literally gives you 2 gems for free - and if ppl value the extra socket of gloves and wrists then how in the world is this bad? And as a bonus, it makes the only class that can give that kind of buff to a raid. Maybe you for some reason value mana for no apparent reason but if u do the rotation correctly you wont run out of mana before your shamanistic rage is back up. simple. 3rd: Yes - Lava Lash is that bad because of the fact that off-hands dont actually deal the same amount of damage as your main hand, even if you have the same weapon, and it's literally only - and i mean only - to generate maelstrom procs. And my question to you is why do you care about procs from flametounge when it's fucking a small damage increase, and since ure attacking with your off-hand - tell me again how you can proc windfury of that alone. Because you can't. I don't know why you would bring up windfury because it has and igcd which means you shouldn't use it on ur off-hand - and if you are, then you need some serious consideration why you're even here - maybe you needed my help even though you're too proud to admit it. But yes you can please go on and tell me all the misinformation that i've stated and upload a video showing me that you're the better enhance, show me full haste, show me the capabilities that you posses by doing 17k dps on a tank and spank fight in a 10 man. Interesting comment though ill give you that.
@@plussix5517 1 - haste decreases every other skill gcd besides stormstrike, so IT DOES, check your facts boy. 2 - You are talking about the 30% of a 2% that's so damn bad that i had hopes that you wouldn't said this and make the math yourself, let's asumme you have a crazy amount of int like 1000, that's 6 atk power for a talent point... 3 - Instead of talking about lava lash damage just go to a dummy, trow 1 LL and 1 fire nova, then come here and tell me that the nova does more than a LL + FT + 20% of a lightning bolt, and i bring windfury because there are a lot of servers where it doesn't have the internal cd but doesn't matter use flame thongue instead and use the damn recount before talking shit. Im leaving this here, go do some math, check some forums, i don't care, can't waste my time trying to explain the same thing 10 times to a boy who doesn't want to lose a discussion, just make sure you don't make a video spreading bullshit again, there are a lot already
@@ginebro1930 and the fact that u bring up the 2% int I dont even know where to begin, 10% is not the same as 2% - like what are u even talking about. The fucking guts that you have to come here and tell me how to play this class just shows me how fucking delusional you actually are. Daddy never loved you is that it? Again - if im so fucking wrong, why dont u prove me wrong with your own video of your bigboy dps, but nah you wont cuz u mad fucking chicken thats all talk Yet u say ''check some forums'', ye all you are is some shithead that cant be original and play to your own strengths, nah u have to look everything up and try to copy everyone else because you aint got the fucking brainpower to make up your own mind how you can play a class. Or maybe youre just salty cuz u aint got shit on me :) And last point - the fact taht u use recount just shows me that youre a fucking amatuer that has no clue about jack shit. Get out of here bro lol
Shit dude mages were easy on my enhance in WOTLK. Since Shaman finally had ways to break CC and catch casters easier it was game over once you were within range.
Nice guide dude! Just what I needed
@Plussix Do you need your own 14 and 17% + boomkin/sp hit buff or including it? Thx in advance
just being curious here,isn´t more effective to use chest piece from gunship (leather one) to get more hit and expertise so you can gem more ap / haste?
It's more worth to use Spellpower gear at the moment, instead of the items this dude shows. Meta changed because of a bug that people exploit. And funny enough, this dude, with one single LOD kill in his statistics, shows people how to play enhancement and how to gear it up..
People, please.. wake up!
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Great Insight, Thank you very much :)
if agi gives attack power and crit why go attack power & haste and not agi & haste?
because agility doesn't give as much atk power and you dont need the crit component of it
i have a question if we make a orc for exp that losts 1% hit how we should repay the lost hit i mean sockets or enchants ?
U are changing expertise ring for lord marrowgar 25 one
Probably use an orange or yellow gem with hit
Not sure if you monitor this video still but you say not to gem pure haste or agi or atp? If one were to gem the stark gem which is 20 atp and 10 haste, would one gem pure Stark gems in all available slots? Besides a nightmare tear to unlock meta gem of course lol
can i go for gliph of the lightning shield? in warmane i guess. (i don´t remember) pet´s damage it´s bug
I dont think that its wise to cast Wolves first, because they copy your stats upon summoning. So if you summon them before you do drop totems, cast Shamanistic Rage, get trinket procs, Bloodlust, you loose a big DPS Gain.
What - No you cant waste a global cd mid fight when everyone else is popping their cooldowns, they last for 45 seconds which is a long ass time and the bonus they get from totems and such are not vital because enhancement shamans are not meant for burst - wolfs are just a tool to have some burst damage. They still benefit from passive buffs such as totems and bloodlust - So no mate you are wrong - always cast them in the beginning of the fight
@nedim kahrimanovic
If you use the burst (almost every class) early in the fight you may can use then again before battle ends specially because the battles are almost 5 min duration (almost all bosses) and the burst cd is around 3 mins cd
So then you'll do more damage (not dps but damage along the fight)
He’s 100% right. You don’t want to pop wolves right away. You’re gimping your DPS and you’ll get to pop them again before the fight ends.
@@brandonkruse6412 Yes you want to pop them right away for the love of god you get to the boss faster, more damage instantly, you can't manage wolfs around trinket procs and shit lol, but go right ahead and do less dps if that is what you wish
@@plussix5517 agreed, same as ghoul pop as FDK you don't want to wait for trinket procs to pop it and waste GCD better do it on start and prioritize your rotation only reason for UHK not doing it right away is because it cost 60 runic power so you can't use it before the fight or right when it starts. Thank you for the guide and ignore the goons your guide is helping the smart players!
Do you happen to have an armory or anything so I can see everything that I should go for? I know the rotation and such but gear I'm not sure what to go for, like should I wear a mail piece that has arp on it or not? That kind of thing
hi man. what u think about jar and sts if u have 770 haste without procs and relic. or sts and dbw? since dbw is great dps burst and at end game guild boss fight coming shorter
It could work but the thing with jar is just that it deals about as much as Flame Shock in a 5 min fight - and since basically all fights are 5 min (appart from maybe LK), the pure 340 AD you get from herkuml is just greater because you're high and low damage is just always higher throughout the fight. And no dont go BDW since if you proc crit you will cry - you don't need crit at all since you already have like 70-75% crit during combat. The 340 100% uptime AD from herkuml is just too good for enhancement.
@@plussix5517 but is also contributes in stacks for MW5 and flametongue weapon, which both go up (als proccing you P4 set bonus). So saying it does as much as flameshock is not sufficient enough explanation; dps checks on dummies do. This would count for the whole discussion on Taiaj, not only leaving herkuml (its amazing dont ever drop it). Let me know what you think.
Also dual wield specialisation talent is there because offhands have a 25% miss chance; this just reduces it a bit for us dualwielders
Yea so I did try it out as I said in the video on bloodqueen (which is just tank and spank all around) and also on dummies for 2 minutes, but if you want to prove me wrong you are welcome to do so where you have jar equipped and it doesn't deal the same amount of damage as your flame shock. The research I did with my gear on the trinkets are the ones stated above. And since flametongue wep is online for your off-hand it deals such a low precentage of damage that it isn't necessary to put resources into making that specific spell deal more damage. That's my take on it. I am though not active on the server anymore so if anything has changed I would not know.
Thanks for the comment and I might login to do additional research and if I do come up with anything different I will probably post it here as wel.
@@plussix5517 the hit is too much for me atm plus taiaj going to other specs (retri etc). Cannot really test it, if I ever get my hands on it I do plan on dummy bashing (all skills included) to evaluate the damage as a whole and ofc uptime on buffs. Thanks for the response!
Question. Since lava lash is bad should i use double WF or WF/FT? it seems i am doing more dmg with double WF
That's a big no mate. It has an internal CD and if your WF procs from your offhand it's gonna be 6 sec till it can proc again. Always WF on main hand and nowhere else
well Lava Lash means u are hitting more harder with your Off Hand, contributing it to your "Attack" damage.
what about putting that one last talent into less shock cd instead of 2% int
as your shocks are your main spells and those 2% of int might only get you about 20 actual int
i know that kind of min maxing is kinda awkward but since i am also playing this much enh shamy i think every half (or even forth) a second you dont do something or wait for your shock is a waste of time cuz you always have a button to press, even if its just filling in a lightning shield refresh or magma refresh, so in theory that 0,2secs off of your shocks might build up into a slightly smoother execution of the rotation -> less dmg loss = dmg increase
ok i didnt want to write so much about so little of value cuz i also got another question:
what is your opinion on weapon enchants berserk vs mongoose? I always believed that berserk is much better due to the fact that you can align both proccs with your wolf, but in reality you just use your wolf on the beginning of a fight or when burst is needed, so you dont rly get full value out of the glyph like you would in pvp
also going full haste or full ap isnt good as you already mentioned, the mongoose procc provides ap, crit and some haste (so the balanced route)
and the next point is I recently heard about mongoose not having a procc cd like berserk has, so in theory the more haste you have the more likely it is to last all fight long
basicly my brain is too bad to do the math (and i think im not the only one here) so im asking if you tried both options (or maybe your the weird guy who plays each on one weapon) and have a clear preference?
Hell of a reply mate haha..
So for the first question - it's not just plain out 20 actual int beacuse its 2% of your total manapool which I cba doing the math on but it's more than 20 int. And for the shock spells - it's an okey idea, havnt really tried it but the thing is that you don't need the .2 sec reduction because you should always press earth shock when it's 6 sec left on your flame shock. And I mean ALWAYS - because that means that you press your shock spells every 6 seconds. And another thing - if you're having downtime with only autoattacks then you are doing something wrong mate because this class always have an ability open - if you do the rotation correctly.
2nd: You go berserk - always berserk, for your wolfs first of all - because you basically always the get the proc when you proc your windfury, it doesn't matter if it has a cooldown all that matters is that you want to balance the berserk proc with your haste totem (the relic). Mongoose doesn't give that much attack power because it's 1 agi = 1 attack power which is not required at all since it's only gives you 120 atk power vs 400 (berserk).
Remember to rotate your shock spells correctly and you won't have downtime at all basically.
Thanks for a good comment
And another thing about the value of the glyph - you need it, and I mean NEED IT because you wont stand a god damn change otherwise which classes that have way better burst than you such as dks, rogues and retri paladins. It's cool to see that you know about the berserk / wolf combo but they so insane amounts of damage if you have the glyph - so don't even second guess yourself about it mate
@@plussix5517 thanks for your fast reply even thought this video is a bit old now :)
yes i know that you always have a spell open, but it often happens the situation that you can press any button (mostly stormstrike) when you have about 1-0.5 cd on your earth/flame schock which feels like pain cuz i dont wanna get global cd before pressing a shock which feels like a stacking waste of time each global cd before pressing it (basicly making your shock cd higher or you make the stormstrike cd higher) and a dmg loss, thats why i sometimes think haste cant be that bad to be gemmed in more than ap due to the fact(it is, or?) that haste lowers our global cd
but this is just the opinion of an enh main who raided until ~5.9ish gs and now im starting my enh on a new server where naxx is the "newest" content, just to feel the early game of whole wotlk and i want to optimize my enh even more :)
i wont second guess the wolfs glyph now but my perfectionism mind wants me to test out mongoose even though i never had problems with berserk because you have to use wolfs in the beginning of the match which means they dont get the benefit of the berserk proccs that comes seconds later (i believe the wolfs stats get locked the time they get summond, like the snapshotting mechanic on ferals/warlocks, but i may be wrong on this)
so the question for me is only if my rotaions benefits more on 800ap on cd or with 240ap, some melee crit and overall haste with the potential to be up at all times
ok i need to stop, sry for these long ass coments ^^' but i rly apreciate your thoughts on this as there are only a small amount of good enh shams
@@Takujaki Ye it's old.. im getting old feels bad man.. But nah I just kinda came back to the server like a week ago so trying to be active here on this video too. But before I try to answer these thoughts: don't worry about the length of the comment mate - it's interesting to hear you out because you have some good thoughts.
But yea so there's macros for the global cd if that's what bothering you so much. I can try to make it here in the comments - it looks something like this:
/stopcasting
/cast Earth Shock
/stopcasting
what this macro does - is that it allows your character to cancel whatever it is your character is doing at that point when u press the macro which allows for ''quicker'' global cds. But this is something that I thjink you really need to practice - because this shouldnt be an issue for you at all - with enough practice that is.
And about the wolfs - yea sure their auto attacks dont change - but then again, some fights are longer than 3 minutes which makes it possible to use the cooldown again. But this isnt something you should put into account - I mean this isnt something that you should think about at all.
And for the last question - your rotation will always benefit more from the 800 ap than the tiny haste / agi you get. Another reason why mongoose is bad for enhance is because you already have like 80%+ crit chance in combat which means that the crit part of the agility proc is utterly useless. And that simply means that if your class cant utilize fully from an enchant - that means that you should not have it.
Hi man! What about ikfirus sack of wonder on chest? Is it worth it? I have the hc one :D GOOD VIDEO BTW!
Since 100% of your intellect is converted to AP through talents it's not worth using leather.
Is still still up to date ? Would like to play enh Shaman on Icecrown. Thanks
still up to date yes. Nothing's changed
@@plussix5517 Would you recommend playing a enh tho ? Or Should i just roll dk? Im a bit scared of not getting raid spots as enh.
@@arturezz8886 mate, if youre playing on warmane, ull get in by following this guide, because everyone is using this spec.
Why u use sts trinket since ARP is useless for enhancement?
u want the proc, not the passive - simple
how is it useless? dont u autoattack as hard as other classes?
@@Sarkwer its useless because its mixed damage lol
Then why not using WFS? Extra crit
@@conniestream3256 because crit is useless - I say it in the video and it's just simply less AP from the proc than STS
I would rather have 4% static LB damage than 2% increased WF chance or hell even the 5 min cooldown reduction on the Fire Elemental. Real talk tho, Fire Elemental is hidden op. It does so much damage and with that glyph you can have it up for every boss fight.
i also wondered why the 2% windfury damage, it seems really small, theres for example a glyph that gives 20% lightning shield damage which sounds alot higher, but i guess it depends how much lightning shield does compared to windfury on total damage, but when its 2% compared to 20%, cmon
please i need your addons.. tell me which ones you use
Hi! I would like to see the rotation on dummy ! ❤️
Surely gem haste is better. There’s no cap on how fast you deal white damage even if the amount per hit is less haste outweighs attack power. More frequent attacks means more maelstrom procs which means more lightening bolts cast. Haste boss here and I’m bossing endgame content on my current enhance sham always top 3 dps
Pure haste gem better than AP+haste gem? The guide I saw on warmane says so too. I'm not sure which is true and which guide to follow.
this guy constantly says that to much haste fucks up your shock rotations, make fiery run out to quickly causing you to lose shock damage here and there which i guess adds up, idk the class looks the most interesting and im about to jump right in for classic wrath
Can you post your talent tree somewhere please
what off hand is enchant of shaman enchants ?
flametounge weapon
@@plussix5517 and when leveling ?
@@nikolahad6777 same
Thanks for the vid, just about to go onto a new server opening soon and plan on playing enhancement. Any tips for someone who will be pre-icc? No worries if not, will be my first time maining Shaman as I've always liked the look of enhancement.
Oh ok that's cool! Unfortunately all I can inform you with is the fact that enhancement isn't too great before ICC, and that's because the tier sets before ICC aint too great. But other than that it's the same stat prio, build and whatnot. (Talents may vary) But ye mate glad to hear you like the look of enhancement as much as I do :D
Thanks for the comment!
So you are playing with ~500 Arp, right? Is Arp as a stat even valuable enough? At the moment i preffer going a 0 Arp build with caster (Haste/Spellpower) scale, however I get my 16% hit without gemming for it, instead Im going for full haste/expertise. The Build works well so far for me (have to say Im at 6,4k, probably wouldnt work with low gear).
Are you really sure full haste is not an option? And why are you going Arp build with Arp being not really that good below the 1200 threshhold?
Not sure where you get the number 500 from, I literally have the boots and the trinket that gives me about 300 arp.
Arp is completely useless, in STS case, you use it for the proc, just as any other mdps. And as for the boots, they are bis simply because you get more statvalue off of them. Higher int, ap, agi everything.
I know for a fact that full haste is not a valid option because you're auto attacks dont deal enough pure damage for you to be top on the meters, now that's not the case for me because I've figured out the most valuable way to go about this spec. Again, not sure what you mean by ''arp build'' I literally have 2 items with arp
Correction: And belt, still 300 arp
+ sindra 25 man heroic neck (which also has a better statvalue than festergut 10 man heroic). 383 Arp would be the Arp with an "Arp-Build", 500 was just a wrong estimate. But with your statement that the Arp is practically useless (which is what i think aswell) you clarified that already. I do understand that the AP procc of STS is insanely good. But with Arp being useless i wonder if a build with going fpr 0 Arp and double haste trinkets is better (as Arp only gets good the more you have) - you get up to 1500 meele haste because you don´t have to gem for hit rating. I´ve asked quite some people about Arp offparts/STS and many say Arp in BiS gear is decent while others (me included) go for lower item lvl offparts with hit (despite worse statvalue). Oh and don´t get me startet on how badly glancing ruinied my day when i was trying an Arp-Offparts/STS Build. Also: I´ve never heard you have to balance out AP and Haste (as long as your crit/haste is balanced out). At a certain gear level your AP will probably reach 5k+ unbuffed without gemming for it, which definitly makes haste the best stat. The explanation "if you only go haste your autoattacks will do no damage" doesn´t click to me as you already get so much AP and crit from your gear. Just wanted to know your opinion about hit offparts (especially because you are wearing only one in form of festergut 10man heroic) By the way excuse my bad english, im not a native speaker :D
Btw just saw your SF 25 man heroic DPS, I don´t know exactly how much Dps I´d do on that boss, gonna test it tomorrow evening and write again ;)
@@the_l0st317 Arp is useless, IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU, but the fact that the proc, is insane doesnt go away, 30% of your total atp transfers into sp is something u clearly dont value for some reason.. it's the same for multiple classes bro. you use trinkets for it's passive. I'm not sure what kinda double haste trinket you would use, and 1500 haste to way too much. As for crit / haste..., you dont need to balance it at all since you have fucking 70% crit chance in combat, all your damn abilities crit, it's just how the class is made to be. And no, I just because you have over 5k ap doesnt make it a worse stat, AP for enhance is extremely good because all your abilities value from the attack power stat, spells, autos, fucking everything, and that's also why high / low damage is extremely important because they manage your actual crit damage from all your abilities - hence attack power super good, too much haste = too fast ticks of flame shock = cant juggle them = fucked gbc = worse dps.
And yea, that was with total shit gear mate, 6.3k and 251 ring and arp bracers. Well if you upload the recording of the video of your damage I will believe that you can do more, nowadays though, I do 17k in 10 man :)
@@the_l0st317 And as for the neck, it's bis becuase it makes you perfectly hit capped, you can't change the boots for example because they have less hit, the neck from sindy fine, but they you need more gems with hit which is not as good, you're more than welcome to follow my path, or make your own, but i'd be surprised if you'd do more damage than me honestly and can prove it
Gaems?
Dummy would be awesome if you have the time and feel like doing it!
That Agillaty increase
is there any actual, hard math to back up the necessity to balance haste vs AP in such a meticulous way? I feel like the stats differ fundamentally in that AP will always give you the same flat damage increase per stat, while haste is more dependant on the players ability to utilise Maelstrom quickly and maintain a clean prio during the fight (with additional sonsideration after hitting GCD cap). If you play well, It'll be better, if you're shit, It'll be worse than AP. I'm on 840 haste with zero buffs/procs, while having less AP than you do, and it feels "right". Very fast Maelstrom, no empty gcds ever. Just a thought.
Very nice video overall, will test some things based on your style
Tbh it feels like he heard something about it and can't explain it. So i will try to do it couse i dont think he is right here. On different private server there was a group of shamans that was wandering how much haste is good to play enha and they not only tested dps manually with same items etc on test realm but also they slightly modified rawr so it calculated which haste amount is best. It turned out both in simulations amd practice that best value is 1025 - why is that? Because if u have that haste, you get flurry proc and pop BL you are haste hardcapped and any more haste on top wont give you anything so its a waste of stat.
Also as people are mentioning in comments spellpower build with 2x flametongue turns out to be much better
@@potworzgo your melee whitehits can always get faster, regardless of GCD cap. haste is never giving you "nothing" as you claim, but at very high values its benefit diminishes because it becomes harder and harder to play cleanly and use maelstrom quick enough.
hello Plussix, in one of your videos u mentioned that all this guide is based on 15 years experience so i am guessing you played in vanilla as enh as well. i wanted to ask you if you remember which were the absolute best profs for pve raiding back in vanilla times. thanks
is 2Hander enhance shaman good in wotlk ?
no unfortunatly not, you can do some cool one-shoty things in lower lvls such as 60 and 70 but it is not viable in 80.
I wish you show PvP best spec too...
i think windfury weapom was fixed. i have 5645gs, not all gems. glypsh: stormstrike, lava lash, chain lh. and only do around 4kdps single target on hc dummy. in raid only around 6k dps. also, i have talents with a little bit more sustain. is that normal? damn, this class in wotlk is hard af... in cataclysm was much easier
Maybe they've patched it since i've been away - imma have to look that up. But yea, remove those glyphs. And if you have 6.5k gs - you should be doing 9-11k like me on a dummy. And you don't need to have a sustainable spec since you have so much mana either way.
@@plussix5517 i only have 5645gs and was wondering if 4k+ dps is normal on hc dummy. Btw, one of the best guild raider shaman dps had full haste gems. Now im confused who i should be following. And should i remove mana regen talents with undeveloped gear? With shamanistic rage i dont have problems with mana so far
@@Saldutiskis oh mb, kinda newly awake, 4k dps on a dummy is utter shit mate, either you have the wrong gems or the wrong rotation.
And for the talents, nah just keep the mana sustain talents for now until you reach about 6.1k gs. And for the shaman - he's doing it completely wrong because of the fact that his auto attack damage isn't justified by his haste so i'd guess he does maybe 15k dps at best in ICC.
@@Saldutiskis Which btw is kinda pathetic considering he probably has every bis item - which I don't. Plus, I linked a video in the description with a pov of my friend and me raiding in our guild where you can clearly see the dps possible if you play this class right.
@@Saldutiskis and for the love of god switch glyphs
u play warmane?
Yes I do
Plussix lordaeron?
@@wavenoxmania1570 No Icecrown
i cant believe this vid doesnt have more views, you are an enhancement genius!
Glad you like it mate. Hope it helps
What happend to 10-15 minutes 😂😂
good question lol, just didnt happen I suppose, still you wouldnt get to hear everything you need to hear if u want to understand this class.
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I have been reserching for a guide that doesnt just use full haste or full AP. Thank you, i totally agree with you. Still i want to try out the jar bc i think It should work.
Great video i wish you had uploaded more WoW videos
Hey cheers mate, yea go ahead try it out. Do come back and tell me your results, thanks for the comment
kutsoul99 I remember once me and plusthree were hitting the dummies in ironforge for research purposes. Comes out taij is not that efficient as an ap/haste proc trinkets. Even dbw could be considered better. Still can log on icecrown to proove :).
@@idabegai No mate it's still the best enhancement trinket.., DBW is not better at all, and if my word doesn't prove that then perhaps you should look up the best enhancement on the server (orc shaman) - he's wearing it too. I am telling you why dbw is bad for enhance in the video and that is SIMPLY because you do not want the crit proc what so ever. And the arm pen passive stat doesn't do anything for you either so.
@@plussix5517 im talking about abomination trinket, you think thats best ?
@@idabegai ohh wait what - I thought u meant herkuml, my fucking bad mate lol im retarded
Okay this video is bothering me massivly, and i know its 3 years old, but still... A) tiny abom isn't just "600" dps, its additional weapon swings, additional attempts and wind fury procs, if you have Flame tong weapon that also will do an additional proc, its a faster build up of maelstrom. "just 600" dps from the proc is not just 600 dps. B) you profesion explanation is horrible, every prof (excpet herblism) gives you the equivlemnt of 2 gems worth of stats (more or less), Tailoring is a bad idea because it takes off a stat you really really want, for a stat you really really want - its a natural move, you still get the 2 gems sockets worth of states more, but its a side ways move. JC+BS are really good - gives you more momvent in your stat stacking. and you sitting there like go leather working, big AP boost - its the SAME AP boost as going Encnhating, JC, BS, even a scribe. Also your explanation of how your maths is so triggering. I don't see you doing any research and bluffing your way past this video. Take the info in this video with a pinch of salt. Do more research. you dont want to open with wolves.... you want to pop wolves AFTER you get ur procs up. you have a build up AP trinket, you have a PROC trinke,t you have a PROC ring, wolves after 3 seconds, or after heroism is popped atleast. No your understanding of hit/miss/glancing/crit is terrible. its either a hit or miss, if it misses, it misses. end of story, if it HITS it can either crit, glance, or hit. If you have higher crit it will push out the glancing/hits. More crit does not = less misses. more crit = less glancing/hit. Misses are misses.Also really bothers me how you cant say gems or agility. and no, all shields are spells, they all have a GCD, retail + private servers.
I can tell that its bothering you massively since you went all hero-mode on my ass and wrote yourself a bible.
All imma say is do it your own way.
glhf
Can someone please tell british people how to pronounce the word gem, and well you're at it the letter Z too.
Let me guess, youre one of those that don't realize Z is actually pronounced as ''ZED'' and not ''C''..? If youre interested in grammar, I recommend you go bother someone else cuz I've heard this shit for about 4 years now - this is supposed to be an informative video, not a way for people to come and tell me the same shit 4 years later.
Have a good day
@@plussix5517 If you've been hearing it for 4 years maybe fix it? but in all seriousness that was mostly a joke because I understand cultural grammatical differences regardless of how ridiculous they make your entire country sound, to me. Easy to see why you only have 150 subs though after making content for years.
this guy is literally just overgeared and he has little knowledge over the enhancement shamans
someones jelly
@@plussix5517 nope. I was a 6.3 enha shaman in Warmane (molten) but I quited the server for the enormus amount of bugs and stupidity that the server had.
I just cant ignore that you are 6,5k enhancement (obviously either guild boosted or donated) and you totally skip engineering as a proffesion which is a must or the fact that you dont know what hit rating enhancement shamans should have to optimal DPS.
@@kostaskollias4100 it's quiet cute that u think ive donted my gear my dude. As you can see I dont even have bis in this video. I just do a shitton of damage and people wondered how. So here it is.
And yea sure you can go engineering if u value the haste that u get from the gloves, though it is not needed. At all.
And the fact taht u point out hit rating, is fucking stupid because if you believe that I am in the wrong then this conversation is over. Lmao
@@plussix5517 all that said from the guy who doesnt know what dual-wield specialization talent does, now THAT'S cute.
The fact I am pointing out engineering is that you can use the enchant on hands AND shamanistic rage together (also shamanistic rage always had GCD).
Also most fights in ICC and RS are always a phase changing fights which makes engineering bursting so much better (and helps with mana when you combo it with shamanistic rage).
I am also questioning you as a donor because throught my experience in molten there was never a raid leader that would give STS to an enha rather than any other Ar.P hungry spec. Which means you either donated or your guild is kind enough to give it to you with DKP system or whatever you use.
I have a full enhance Shaman at the wow brasil server... and i must say that this vídeo is the most accurate avaliable on internet. There are a few points that i disagree, but thats minimal. Engineering is not a must have profession. Haste is not the stat that we need to Chase relentlessly, JC and LW are the better options by far. But i found out that in order maintain your dps, having a shit ton amount of haste and Eng profession is not as great as a perfectly balanced attack Power and Haste.
so many wrong facts in this video... don't spread missinformation if you are not sure of something
right mr man, why dont u tell me how to play this class and leggo big boy - u dont think there's a reason why I made this video? you dont think there's a reason why basically all the enhancement shamans you see on wotlk private servers are using my way of playing? tell me what misinformation im spreading instead of stating something that is false
@@plussix5517 Your haste should reach the cap to lower the gcd to 1s, this maximizes the downtime between skills, you nedd between 1300 and 1400 for this, you are NOT haste capped, since enha can cast something every single second this is important.
Int does NOT provde sp, improved str totem gives you 22 str and agi for 3 talent points... it's just terrible.
Lava lash is nowhere as bad as you make it, is low on the rotation because it does a little less damage than other skills but you need to factor in the +1 count to maelstrom wich is basically adding 20% the damage of a lightning, also is waaay more mana friendly and more impontant than all it procs your flamethonge or windfury on your off hand, also doesn't need to be talented like fire nova to do all this.
I can't remember what else you said on the video but im pretty sure that i can go on, so tell me, do you want me to continue?
@@ginebro1930 1: Haste does not decrease youre global gcd's as an enhancement shaman in wotlk, becuase youre thinking about a different expansion - now that being said, there are 2 classes in the game that can decrease gcds which are disc priests and unholy presence dks.
2nd: Int does not improve sp? Ok, well then u need to re-read the talents because 30% of ure ap transfers to sp, 100% of ur int becomes ap - so again, how is int not sp? Jesus man that's embarrassing.
And no 22 str and agi is not awful because it literally gives you 2 gems for free - and if ppl value the extra socket of gloves and wrists then how in the world is this bad? And as a bonus, it makes the only class that can give that kind of buff to a raid. Maybe you for some reason value mana for no apparent reason but if u do the rotation correctly you wont run out of mana before your shamanistic rage is back up. simple.
3rd: Yes - Lava Lash is that bad because of the fact that off-hands dont actually deal the same amount of damage as your main hand, even if you have the same weapon, and it's literally only - and i mean only - to generate maelstrom procs. And my question to you is why do you care about procs from flametounge when it's fucking a small damage increase, and since ure attacking with your off-hand - tell me again how you can proc windfury of that alone. Because you can't. I don't know why you would bring up windfury because it has and igcd which means you shouldn't use it on ur off-hand - and if you are, then you need some serious consideration why you're even here - maybe you needed my help even though you're too proud to admit it.
But yes you can please go on and tell me all the misinformation that i've stated and upload a video showing me that you're the better enhance, show me full haste, show me the capabilities that you posses by doing 17k dps on a tank and spank fight in a 10 man.
Interesting comment though ill give you that.
@@plussix5517 1 - haste decreases every other skill gcd besides stormstrike, so IT DOES, check your facts boy.
2 - You are talking about the 30% of a 2% that's so damn bad that i had hopes that you wouldn't said this and make the math yourself, let's asumme you have a crazy amount of int like 1000, that's 6 atk power for a talent point...
3 - Instead of talking about lava lash damage just go to a dummy, trow 1 LL and 1 fire nova, then come here and tell me that the nova does more than a LL + FT + 20% of a lightning bolt, and i bring windfury because there are a lot of servers where it doesn't have the internal cd but doesn't matter use flame thongue instead and use the damn recount before talking shit.
Im leaving this here, go do some math, check some forums, i don't care, can't waste my time trying to explain the same thing 10 times to a boy who doesn't want to lose a discussion, just make sure you don't make a video spreading bullshit again, there are a lot already
@@ginebro1930 and the fact that u bring up the 2% int I dont even know where to begin, 10% is not the same as 2% - like what are u even talking about.
The fucking guts that you have to come here and tell me how to play this class just shows me how fucking delusional you actually are. Daddy never loved you is that it?
Again - if im so fucking wrong, why dont u prove me wrong with your own video of your bigboy dps, but nah you wont cuz u mad fucking chicken thats all talk
Yet u say ''check some forums'', ye all you are is some shithead that cant be original and play to your own strengths, nah u have to look everything up and try to copy everyone else because you aint got the fucking brainpower to make up your own mind how you can play a class.
Or maybe youre just salty cuz u aint got shit on me :)
And last point - the fact taht u use recount just shows me that youre a fucking amatuer that has no clue about jack shit. Get out of here bro lol
Usé todo esto para pvp xd
I mean... pretty shit guide ngl. You say you chose LW cause it gives 80 AP. ALMOST. EVERY. FUCKIGN. PROFFESION. GIVES. 80AP.
Stop saying “Gem” wrong.
gelo fernan stop being a terrible person
Stop being wrong in general
still get owned by my mage :P
imagine playing mage
Shit dude mages were easy on my enhance in WOTLK. Since Shaman finally had ways to break CC and catch casters easier it was game over once you were within range.
@@chriss.2978 Ye nah talking about PvE dps racing, not pvp - enhance is hard counter to mages when it comes to pvp
ghems
I dont trust a player playing in paymane
Nobody asked you
A player with a single LOD fight in iceclown you mean*
30 min video, 20min- don't use tiny abom, 10 min erm, ahr basically ok?
no, tiny abom if u go full haste is ok if u wanna be stubborn about it but its not worth going with this build....