@@Marlin123 his woman forced him to do this shit. i can tell ya mfs are virgins and never have been around a woman. you d know that women are like this. and let's be honest, his woman is right. if he stays around other women he will cheat again. im just baffled that so many dudes are little virgins thinking that simping is the way to go. lol
Friends aren’t supposed to back you up on everything you do, they’re supposed to call out things that are blatantly wrong or stupid so you don’t look stupid. They can have your back without agreeing with you.
Realistically if you friend commends you for doing something shitty they are a pretty awful friend. Sometimes we fuck up (usually not as bad as this guy) and it can be really valuable to have someone you trust who can call you out.
@@zeallust8542 you must have horrible friends who don't care about your wellbeing if they don't straighten you up when you do fucked up shit or just being in the wrong in general.
Exactly. You can have somebody's back BY not agreeing with them, because it keeps your actions grounded in reality. For example, If somebody asks you for advice, maybe wanting to get into a relationship with somebody you know to be toxic and abusive, would your advice bead on how to get with that person (probably the thing they want to hear), or would you be straight with them and talk about how it's a terrible idea because you don't want them to get hurt?
or the funniest one to me, was him calling out trainwrecks defending him like we don't all know that train isn't one of the biggest sexists on the platform. Like how perfectly can you line both of those things up in 30 seconds and wonder why people are like WTF?
@@ExarchGaming Yeah, but then again, most of the people who are calling out JasonR are friends with Train and/or have no problems interacting with him. Maybe that's where he was trying to go? I mean Ludwig here has been active in calling out JasonR but he is friends with train who has said some harsher words towards women.
i watched the whole segment between Tarik and Jason and Jesus Christ it felt like Jason didn't understand basic English at times. big up Tarik for having the patience to not absolutely lose his shit after dealing with that for like an HOUR
"I had people like trainwrecks, subrosa backing me up, even moe. But you didnt!" "Ok sorry I didnt back you up bro" ".. tarik it's not about you not backing me up" Like what?? Lmfao
ever thought that his wife is the one who forces him to be like this? in order so that he doesnt cheat anymore? nah because you re a virgin simp. logic is a bridge too far for yall.
honestly the worst part is that jason was trying to get tarik to "clear his name" or be a "witness of his character" by saying he had been around girls before. Literally equivalent to saying im not racist ive been around black people before. I honestly got a little mald at how nice and chill tarik was trying to be, such a miserable hour of back and forth to sit through
Ik as a ludbud its in poor taste to spread toxicity anywhere, and i usually would never. But by god that back and forth had me so mad that i wish jason r would join my voice chat so i could just flame this mans for hours.
I hate how he said that it's not about his actions being sexist and that it's about providing a good "witness of his character," knowing damn well that if Tarik did, JasonR would take the "witness of character" to defend himself from sexist claims. Actually so Infuriating, like we know what you tryna do and it ain't slick, nor will it change anything.
It’s also weird because it’s like “Tell me you view women as objects without telling me.” Why is ONE interaction from a girl in chat or gaming gonna make you disrespect your wife… you buckle under the choice of infidelity THAT easily?!
Honestly I think it's a case of the wife being so incredibly insecure from his past actions that she gets nervous just from the idea of anyone he might be sexually attracted to talking to him/with him
I don’t know if you’re doing it on purpose, but you’re completely misrepresenting his point. His problem isn’t with the girls themselves, it’s how chat tends to react to when male and female streamers play with each other. It’s shipping culture that he hates. And it’s honestly understandable, ninja did the same thing. I’d be pissed too if I devoted my life to one woman and there are people on the Internet making fanfics between me and another person because I played with them once in a game.
@DEG05 ASEDILLO Ruben Robert See I think the problem isn’t your response but rather your mindset. When you say you’re bound to promote a culture of sexism and toxic masculinity when all you hear is other men, what you’re actually saying is that you believe that all men are naturally toxic and sexist and need the guidance of women to not be awful people. That kind of mindset builds a culture of superiority between the sexes which is the definition of sexism so…. Also I noticed how you only talk about men and women but completely neglect anybody who doesn’t identify with the “traditional” gender binary. Him banning women doesn’t mean that he bans people who identify as non-binary, gender fluid, androgynous, etc. so the statement that “all he is hearing is other men” is completely unfounded. I believe the real thing that we should be going after here is not him banning women, but that the reasoning he gives, implies that he only recognizes heterosexual relationships. Think about it, he doesn’t want people getting the wrong idea about him playing with women but doesn’t hold that same sentiment for playing with other men. He claims not to be sexist and I think he’s telling the truth, he’s actually homophobic. Sometimes things are more than meets the surface.
@DEG05 ASEDILLO Ruben Robert while sexism it’s definitely still alive in the gaming scene, I think it often overshadows the blatant trans phobia and homophobia that runs rampant through twitch and TH-cam. It shows with the fact that many people can still get away with saying extremely homophobic and trans phobic insults and slurs whereas if they said something similar about a woman or another race, they would be instantly obliterated from the Internet. I mean seriously, it’s 2022 and 13 US states still have a ban on same-sex marriage. I just personally think it’s worth so much more to go after the system rather then the people affected by it. Through my personal journey, I’ve noticed that it’s really ineffective to be aggressive and antagonistic towards others that hold discriminatory beliefs, because there much more likely to double down and believe that they’re right if you try to force them to change by telling them they’re wrong. It’s much more useful to go after the source of their beliefs, or the system that produced the environment that allows hatred to grow. Please in the future do your best to promote positivity and help those hurting. Fighting fire with fire burns everybody around and likewise fighting hatred with hatred will never allow for an environment where love and understanding can develop.
No he clearly cheated. There's zero trust in that relationship. The wife additionally puts the blame on the women. That relationship is a toxic dumpster fire,
As a women it really frustrates me and lets me down when the girlfriend only blames other women for her boyfriend cheating as opposes to blaming the actual boyfriend who is majority responsible.
@@alexandrapetersen8582 You mean like when a dude starts a fight with me because i was talking to his "girl" even when i was completely oblivious to this piece of information xD it happens both ways. Blame the person cheating, never the person they cheating with. (Unless a friend or relative ofc)
@peterkent6250 No, you can ABSOLUTELY blame the person they are cheating with (as well, not just only them) if that person is aware that the situation is explicitly cheating. But yes, a lot of those being the one they are cheating with don't know they're in a relationship. That happened with me and 4 other girls. NONE of us knew about the majority of the others at all, and the ones that did know maybe one other girl were led to believe that the other was just friends with this guy, or a roommate, etc.
If you can't allow women to exist in your community because you're that much of a cheater... maybe you should reevaluate your relationship. If you can't be in the same room with any woman without wanting to sleep with them, just don't be in a relationship. You are not ready.
@@ShinyShillabro, i'm hypersexual too but that doesn't mean i will cheat on my partner with every other woman i see online or irl 💀 wtf? common decency is so rare these days, i s2g.
@@gutleech never said anything about cheating. I'm saying hypersexuality can be a problem and, regarding his situation, should be checked. I have known people who literally couldn't think of anything else but sex, that is not healthy. I s2g internet only wants to see things black & white, common sense is rare nowadays
He uses the word “girl” like a derogatory remark and then tries to claim that he’s not misogynistic... it’s crazy how there’s people actually defending him lol
@@thenightjackal that’s not true, the issue was that it’s not a SLUR not that it’s not meant to be derogatory or offensive. Those are very different things.
@@Ryleeman54number2 He did want to be a journalist, how good he's at it ehhhh everything he tries to talk about he has a HUGE bias towards one side which makes videos like these kinda pointless.
watching qt drag him was incredible but i made the mistake of looking at the replies. i love twitch but sometimes it just reminds me how rampant misogyny still is (esp online). but i've never felt uncomfortable or ostracized for being a woman in your community, thank you for making it a safe n fun place for everyone.
Yes, I feel like the top comments represent the majority. The majority may not be vocal, they usually just like the comment that they agree with. Then the goblins, who dwell at the bottom of the comments section, reply to those top comments, which is why I try not to scroll too far down. I still have faith in QT's and Lud's community.
Man I COMPLETELY forgot this madness happened until this reappeared on my front page today. This is wild! As one of Lud’s 15 female viewers, I’m glad Mr. Mail is taking a stand
I honestly feel like refusing to play or have women in his chat and using not wanting to disrespect his wife as an excuse tell a lot. Like do you feel so tempted by other women for just existing that you have to shut them all out?
@@Ghostman223 The point is, grown men CAN be abused. I have seen it. I have seen grown men, men who aren't physically weak, be abused by women. Manipulated in believing that everything is their fault. That may not be what's going on here, but don't say it can't happen. Also, why is everyone obsessed with playing with/chatting with this dude? He obviously wants nothing to do with women, and there are thousands of other streamers. Just go somewhere else. Lol.
I don't know how to phrase this but as a female viewer of Lud, videos like these seem so rare in this genre, it feels like unless I'm watching TH-camrs who very specifically brand themselves as feminist or leftist, most men seem to just go "yeah yeah ig sexism is bad but instead of actually acknowledging it and coming to terms with it I'm going to make a joke and then complain that it keeps getting brought up". I've met tons and tons of guys who on the surface are like Lud but the moment women get added to the conversation we're instantly sub-human, it's so frustrating trying to be in gaming circles yet constantly disrespected by people I called friends. I don't think I can count the number of times I've gotten "this is why I don't play with girls" from people I genuinely considered friends because I said a comment they made was sexist. Anyway, thanks Lud for admitting his own flaws but also making this video and showing that sexism isn't just one gender's issue, which is kinda sad that this all had to be said cause you'd think it'd be common sense but the bar is on the floor I suppose...
The amount of times ppl on the internet esp in games are openly and violently sexist, racist or homophobic is just insane I wish it was more easy to play and just have fun without running into a million fkn traumatic encounters per day
I feel this comment so much, when I play games online and encounter these types of shitheads I just become timid because I *know* a majority of the server would just gang up on me when I speak up when someone makes an offensive remark. I really shouldnt, and it's just sad and disappointing how rampant sexism/homophobia/racism/transphobia still is in the gaming sphere especially. I just get the relief time to time when bigger people actually speak up about it and I realize that a lot of people do think the same things as me lol
If you're gonna insult someone everytime they try to talk about anything just because you feel compelled to do so as a "leftist" or "feminist", they're more than justified in not wanting to interact with you or your kind. Stop being a pain and people won't avoid you.
I don't think I've heard someone actually whip out the "cum dumpster" insult in an actual argument. I feel like even saying that to someone and trying to play the good person in the story is just an automatic L
as a kid, i remember my camp counselor had this classic line: “stop acting like a little girl” (all of the kids in my group were boys). lets just say, that attitude correlated with how he interacted with his female coworkers….
I am so sick of the sexism in the gaming industry. And I’m not even that involved in the scene. Huge respect to all women who have to put up with this bullshit all the time. Also respect to qt to speak out on this and standing her point even after getting so much backlash for quite some time now.
I know im late but as a gamer girl i think the worst part is the severe amount of sexual harrasment i dont even play any game with randoms anymore ESPECIALLY not on valentines day because its so bad heck even on among us it’s happened its only ever been on valentines day though thankfully but its so disgusting especially since im a SA survivor so it brings back bad memories i had to change my gamertag and my pfp to something you couldn’t tell what gender i was because id have people messaging me some awful things and spamming invites. There’s definitely sexism and ive ran into that but its sadly not even the worst of it
@@flameepidemic4839 what I hated was when men scoffed and went "tea bagging is just a joke! It's on a video game it ant be sexual harassment!" Because. You know. Men don't like taking accountability for their misogyny. When men routinely team kill women, "teabag" them, and say shit like "ungh~ take these nuts" "open wide baby" or other shit. Yes! THAT IS SEXUAL! Fuck's sake.
@@shiny_birb2678 I mean. Yeah Anything you say that has a negative outlook on a sex is sexist. If that's hard to grasp I don't know what to tell anyone
@@gamerzss Kind of weird she goes all hard against JasonR when she also says so much messed up shit about women, especially against small girl streamers, on stream. There's a reason Mizkif jokes about her degrading women all the time.
has anyone noticed that 90% of insults used in society are women related. I actually dont get it if, when ppl mad at a woman they always insult her with her body for being with other guys. Like is that the only thing ppl can think of when seeing a women? honestly humanity is doomed because of all these weirdo's
That's why I treat mysoginistic men like men treat women. Apparently they don't like being called emotional and getting told to keep their testosterone in check. Or that I'll go back to the kitchen when they go back to dying in wars.
Train wrecks is pretty okay he was originally the guy who called out titty streamers on twitch and got banned than came back with more viewers and a podcast on there
There are people (most of the time men) calling men "kid" or "boy" as an insult. DO you even know that women are using "girl" as an insult? Like am i a god with social skills or people are lacking experience in society to not know anything about negative encounters.
@@doroza2lol difference is, calling someone “kid” degrades their mentality, calling someone “kid” means to say they have a mindset and act like a child Calling someone “boy” or “girl” degrades their sex, “girl” happens to be more of an insult as it has a deep root in misogyny, calling someone boy isn’t equal to as bad but it still degrades sex/gender
But wasn't that a talk to hype tariks, because afaik he's getting a lot of positive attention from this? So when your friendship crashes and burns but your carrer is looking fine, you better look at rolexes not your exes.
@@drcks According to studies if you touch money you actually get happy and anxiety goes down touch even if its a dollar or quarters Did it. It works for me. 💃💅✨👌
yo this is great, but also wanna give credit where credit's due. QT going live and talking about this in real time was fucking everything. it was amazing to see really and truly. calling it out knowing she would get hella hate from JasonR stans in her chat as he was still live was very pog, bummed she deleted the vod. would love to see more calling out of sexism in the industry ~even when it's not convenient and to the point where everyone already agrees that he's trash.
@@Terp0 she deleted the vod where she talked about it from her twitch and didn't upload to the vod channel, but here's the channel if you wanna subscribe anyways! th-cam.com/channels/nVqum8VA-5TBYcsVhXtMwg.html
what's awful about this incident is that it encourages other misogynistic players to dodge women too in their lobby, with their vision "women r boosted". seen videos of guys dodging more frequently recently smh
Women are the exact opposite of boosted. The amount of time I've seen men whine and bitch and INTENTIONALLY throw a match by dropping a grenade at their feet, and/or teamkilling the woman.... bro. A woman could have a lower overall KD ratio and still play better than a man because at least 50% of her deaths were whiny men on her own team.
@@him1019sounded like he was going to say fuckin bitch and realized that was kinda vulgar so toned it down to girl, not realizing the irony of the statement lol
their relationship has the same vibe as like... schools that have dress codes that make girls not wear shorts or spaghetti straps because it's "inappropriate" and "distracting" for students and teachers. yknow? like why are we blaming women for existing lmfao
You just Reminded me of one of my favorite stories. A school dress code specified that girls couldn't wear spaghetti straps and skirts, so a whole bunch of the boys rolled up in skirts, and stuff to protest. It didn't work, but maximum respect.
Right? And you could replace this with any other demographic and it probably sounds fucked-up the most well-adjusted people. "I just banned all black people because they tempt me towards becoming a drug addict" or some other nonsense.
I know red-pill TH-camrs who won't even allow women to comment on their videos just because we're women, and when we do comment, they throw loads of misogynistic 💩 at us.
I was watching qt over the weekend she was GOING IN it was amazing I don’t know why she deleted VOD because honestly no bad takes and she said things needing saying
I think it was because she ended up doing a singing stream at the end and she doesn't like leaving those up not entirely sure because I had to leave the stream early
It's because of Twitch. Unlike here, or in many other places, sexism is far more rampant there. People have held that VOD against her already, and if it were still there, they'd continue.
It's admirable how you admit to your own flaws when it comes to sexism in the coversation about denouncing sexism. Really shows your self-awareness and that you're not just drawing the line below you. Great video
holy shit this happened with one of my friends like unironically he wasnt a streamer he was just super sexist and extremely harsh and judgemental on women's appearances all the time called me a girl (im not, guess thats an insult idek) while defending himself and everything some men are wild
Yeah I had a few friends like that too sadly. Got called a girl (and gay) for ...not liking sports and having a girlfriend that's taller than me. I hope u have better friends now
In this case, I don't think there's a such thing as a "good" apology. Apologizing does nothing. Bro just needs to pick a career that isn't being an online personality, since he clearly has no idea how to interact with people online.
I mean a much better apology would be to actually state each thing he did, acknowledge that those things were sexist, and actually apologize instead of just saying that his actions were misconstrued. He literally started off with “taking accountability” and then proceeded to not take any accountability for his actions. edit: of to off
The worst part is that his apology when he got called out earlier said that "his PC crashed all the times he dodged women", and he doesn't even mention how he actually lied to all the fans countless fucking times.
@@nauseasnarwhal1230 No he is saying he is taking accountability towards his wife. He basically used it to apologize to his wife and complain about people calling him sexist.
You forget that most people a racist, homophobes sexists etc. And those people surprise, also use internet, probably more than normal people. Isin't most of top 100 TH-camrs hated by left, since they are big piece of shits? Monsters as Shapiro and Rogan gain 10th of million views every video lol.
@@Yoyoyoitsdatboi that's OK because they weren't born dream stans. He banned them because of thier shared interest and had nothing to do with the actual people behind the screen.
Can i say how much little jokes like "id actually say like a strong woman" do for inclusion. Like sure its a meme but he acknowledged we exist and it is actually combating dialect rooted in toxic masculinity.Good job Ludwig.
thank you for speaking up on things like this. it feels good to finally have men on womens sides for gaming and showing your audience it’s not cool to be a dick and it’s okay to speak up.
@@doobster3650 in my opinion this is false. only in the recent few years has it been better. to say that i’m being “dramatic” kind of pushes back on the whole thing. very misogynistic.
@@doobster3650 dramatic/extreme okay i misread but it still stands. and it’s barely gotten better if you stand with women then don’t say it’s extreme lol obviously you have no idea
@@doobster3650 🤦🏽♀️ you’re literally proving my point. but I wouldn’t say it’s an increasing number it’s still lower than it should be. but i’m done arguing about this lol i literally live it.
it just makes me so sad to see that still in 2022 we can have an extremely misogynistic guy like this get a fuckton of viewers and have male friends who (previously at least) have brushed it under the rug and didnt care. i'm really glad this blew up. but i'm still sad, just knowing a man like this could still be so successful. and so many other men don't seem to care. we can complain as much as we want and stand up as much as we can, but with the culture of misogyny we still live in, it seems like male voices will be heard and will be listened to on a level i or any other woman are rarely listened to. especially in gaming. men are just taken so much more seriously, it feels hopeless sometimes. even if progress is constant. anyways, i'm glad you've made a video on this, please keep it up 💗 mogul mail are definitely some of my top fav content :)
"out of respect to my wife":Shifting Blame, i didnt do it cause i wanted to, i did it cause i had to for someone else "not a good person to her": Reducing Culpability, not being nice could mean anything from forgetting to take the trash out to murdering her father "not wanting her to be put through drama" Lying, you're the reason there is drama right now "my intentions were misconstrued by my actions" Gaslighting, sorry officer my intention wasnt to speed. Sir, we clocked you at 115 mph. "there are so many lies about me out there" Whataboutism, Gaslighting, if they lied about me about something else this could all be a lie too "i wish nothing but peace and love for people" Lying, Gaslighting, he wants peace and love for non-vaginas "i am sorry" Gaslighting. you aren't sorry, if you were really sorry you'd apologize. not shift blame, reduce your culpability, gaslight, whataboutisms, and other stuff to try to make you look like a victim.
Y'know most people avoid cheating by not cheating with people, not by avoiding people altogether. If you have to avoid women all together to avoid cheating, you need rehab not mysogny.
Summary: JasonR is insecure, sexist and probably cheated, wife is a pick me girl, Tarik has the patience of a saint and Nadeshot is as wise as ever. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
He’s not sexist because his wife is overprotective and overly jealous and he respects that because he loves his wife He’s sexist because he clearly doesn’t respect women and uses his wife being overprotective and overly jealous as an excuse 💀
It's really cute for him to bring up how QT caught the guy-- idk it's like "look at how sassy and right my lady is" and it's just so cute and wholesome. That's how you support your lady right there. Take notes crusty ass Jason
Which makes sense. I think there's a low chance that a person especially a woman would gatekeep him from talking to another woman if he didn't do something bad to her.
@@Ihavealeftbrain her logs are kinda crazy but we don't know that she was predisposed to say that or if he did something to make her have that reaction/say those things
i’m really glad this has been brought to light and i hope the valorant community realizes how sexist people in this game are. when i wanna dodge a map i just say hiiii guys what’s uuuuup and some dude always goes “it’s a woman i’m dodging” i at least use it to my advantage but damn lmao
I really liked this video. Thanks for pointing out that bigotry doesn't have to be to a cartoonish extent or obviously evil to be real, and thanks for also owning that you're not perfect about these things either. People need to hear these lessons from people they like and respect, and I'm glad you don't have a problem putting these messages out there.
The interesting part here is when Tarik offered actual advice on how he could fix this, JasonR wouldn't listen at all and still insists that Tarik is an L friend. Personally I think what Tarik was doing was the characteristic of a good friend - not condoning your friend's bad actions and instead trying to give advice on how to fix it. Also, Roza gave a take similar to what JasonR insists Tarik should give, and then JasonR claims that he was "backed up" by Roza. But when he was pushing Tarik to do the same thing, he's insisting that he doesn't necessarily want Tarik to "back him up" but instead be a "witness of his character". So basically JasonR wants Tarik to back him up but is being really vague about it. And it's ironic how he's saying Tarik isn't backing him up because of Tarik's huge fanbase/viewership when to me, it looks like JasonR wants to use Tarik's huge viewership to "fix" his image. JasonR is literally the L friend- gaslighting Tarik, not listening to his advice, talking behind his back, literally lying about his intentions, trying to use his viewership, etc.
I went on a school trip last week to New York and met the former mayor (Mohammed Hameeduddin) of Teaneck, NJ, an area with a lot of diverse peoples and a fairly significant Jewish population (I got to a private Jewish high school btw) and he talked about how people think its ok to be "a little bit antisemitic" or "a little bit racist" because these thoughts of Jews controlling the economy and other stereotypes had been thrown around by a lot of people in the past and that people who are seriously racist are much worse than themselves. I think you nailed it by explaining that now we obviously know that these things aren't acceptable that we can't tolerate people thinking that just because they aren't being at that maximum level, they are excused from having any belief of racism, sexism, antisemitism, etc.
"you're not a good friend because when people called me sexist, instead of having my back, you acted like a girl about it" is just a perfect statement, no notes
Honestly, I was generally someone who did not enjoy QT upon my first couple times I was exposed to her through other people's streams I watch. In the past half a year or so, following Ludwig more often and just generally being more active in Twitch content, and she's won me over. W streamer, W woman, pretty based at times. I was wrong to not give her more of a chance, should have known if Lud was into her, that I probably had the wrong impression. QT is lowkey a calculated Twitter savage and I fuckin' love that.
Out of curiosity, why did you not like her at first and only later liked her? Surely you didn’t change your mind just because she was close with Ludwig 💀
Look I don’t know the man or watched him so idk if he’s sexist or not but I for one would not say “don’t be a girl about it” when trying to not be sexist. Imagine saying “I’m not racist, don’t act black about it” 😂
REAL friends call you out for your bad qualities, they try to make you see your wrong doing/thinking, real friends don’t just support your good qualities, but they also help you become a better person.
Genuinely one of the worst, most tone-deaf apologies I've seen. And I've seen A LOT of apologies. Bro was like "I'm sorry for the vague thing I might have done, it was because of my wife bro believe me"
3:38 it's pretty funny nobody batted an eye at Nadeshots "He should have came to you like a man" comment that is exactly the same as JasonR calling Tarik a girl.
Think this guy needs to realise that times are and have massively changed. We are here to stay and enjoy gaming and the internet regardless of gremlins like this guy that exist. It’s not boys vs girls and all that petty stuff anymore .. the world has moved on and people are trying to be equal. This guy and his way of thinking will get left behind and forgotten. Thank you for this Lud. Gives me hope when any guy talks about stuff like this for a better future for everyone.
There is a difference between acting cautious around girls because of a history of cheating and straight up misogyny. I would understand if he just didn’t play with female streamers but was nice to them but banning females in chat, leaving games with girls in them and insulting them, that’s a whole different story.
I understand where your coming from, but still no. Even in that scenario. If you DONT wanna cheat on your wife, just CHOOSE not to. Just because your around women doesn’t mean you HAVE to sleep with them or anything, they aren’t forcing you to so it’s a lame ass excuse to be like “oh I didn’t wanna be around women because I didn’t wanna cheat 🥺🥺🥺” like- just don’t then… nobody’s making you.
@@danicareithaug3300 well obviously it would be for his wife. If he doesn’t wanna play with women streamers then who gives a shit. His life and stream. Now banning all women in chat and overall being a dick to women not cool
@@danicareithaug3300 ignore we’re talking about this guy for a second. There are some people who are compulsive cheaters and can’t control themselves. If the guy had that (I know he doesn’t), then it would be reasonable to limit interactions with female streamers who he doesn’t feel comfortable with. It’s like of an alcoholic refuses to go to any party where booze is even an option to drink. Bit extreme but only they know their limits and they stay within them. Can’t just say “just don’t drink 🙄”
@@gridlock1637 yeah I get that, but it’s also kinda insulting to women because he’s making it seem like we’re objects, even if he wanted to cheat, there’s no reason to say that the women would want to be with him. I get ur point but not interacting with women AT ALL whether or not they’re interested in him is really rude. Women are a part of everyday society and him pretending like they don’t exist outside of his pleasure is really fucked up. (Not hating on you btw, u seem cool :)) Thank you for having an open conversation with me btw it’s refreshing haha.
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Man really said "I'm sorry for banning every woman and being sexist but you have to understand it was because I also cheated on my wife"
literally, like holy shit
"sorry I'm an asshole on the Internet, but if it makes you feel better I'm an asshole irl too" 😂😂😂
What time he say that at
@@zoombtw1 commenting because i wanna know too 😭
@@zoombtw1 He didn't actually say those words, the phrase "man really said" is more figurative and used to show the absurdity in someone's actions :)
Mans really said “I’m not a misogynist” and “Stop being a girl” in the same 10 seconds.
@we did it holy shit they did it and its finally here!
@@novectus9933 after all this time it’s finally here
@we did it oh wow whatever it is its finally here, im not clicking the link and so should you!
@we did it oh woah it's here, finally
they did it
Mans is just supporting his trans viewers /j
His excuse is basically implying that he doesn't have the self-control be around other women without cheating on his wife.
I mean, that's one way to avoid cheating
(And EW, how gross is it that he thinks women would actually want to fuck that?)
Very rape cultury
@@Marlin123 his woman forced him to do this shit. i can tell ya mfs are virgins and never have been around a woman. you d know that women are like this. and let's be honest, his woman is right. if he stays around other women he will cheat again. im just baffled that so many dudes are little virgins thinking that simping is the way to go. lol
@Fight Research what?
"i'm not a misogynist, trainwrecks can vouch so stop being a girl" might be the worst defense i have ever seen in my life
Isn’t that dude like insane who would ever use him as a source
because Trainwrecks is well..... a ummmm...... well you know
a train wreck
Nah bro that is an impenetrable defense
Reminds me of a line in a skit "I'm not sexist, being sexist is wrong, and being wrong is for women"
its like he's contradicting himself
Friends aren’t supposed to back you up on everything you do, they’re supposed to call out things that are blatantly wrong or stupid so you don’t look stupid. They can have your back without agreeing with you.
Realistically if you friend commends you for doing something shitty they are a pretty awful friend. Sometimes we fuck up (usually not as bad as this guy) and it can be really valuable to have someone you trust who can call you out.
@@zeallust8542 you must have horrible friends who don't care about your wellbeing if they don't straighten you up when you do fucked up shit or just being in the wrong in general.
@@limerumpus3589 Based take
Having too many Yes type friends is so toxic. Like my friends call me on stuff and I fix it.
Exactly. You can have somebody's back BY not agreeing with them, because it keeps your actions grounded in reality.
For example, If somebody asks you for advice, maybe wanting to get into a relationship with somebody you know to be toxic and abusive, would your advice bead on how to get with that person (probably the thing they want to hear), or would you be straight with them and talk about how it's a terrible idea because you don't want them to get hurt?
"i'm not sexist, because being sexist is wrong, and being wrong is for women" energy
this really encapsulates it really well lmfao
Lmao
i love studio c
Out of every insult he could’ve chosen during the conversation to defend he’s not sexist, he used..girl. That cannot be anymore ironic or hilarious
Who even says "like a girl" anyway is he 10 years old???
There were a few threads here and there that people think he was gonna say "bitch" or "pussy" but chose this instead, quite the pick.
or the funniest one to me, was him calling out trainwrecks defending him like we don't all know that train isn't one of the biggest sexists on the platform. Like how perfectly can you line both of those things up in 30 seconds and wonder why people are like WTF?
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@@ExarchGaming Yeah, but then again, most of the people who are calling out JasonR are friends with Train and/or have no problems interacting with him. Maybe that's where he was trying to go? I mean Ludwig here has been active in calling out JasonR but he is friends with train who has said some harsher words towards women.
i watched the whole segment between Tarik and Jason and Jesus Christ it felt like Jason didn't understand basic English at times. big up Tarik for having the patience to not absolutely lose his shit after dealing with that for like an HOUR
Zellsis was losing it tho his pov was hilarious
"I had people like trainwrecks, subrosa backing me up, even moe. But you didnt!"
"Ok sorry I didnt back you up bro"
".. tarik it's not about you not backing me up"
Like what?? Lmfao
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Tarik is the ultimate w person for not giving into his "friend" and following him into the shitstorm he's created for himself
Dude I was getting frustrated myself listening to JasonR. All of what he was saying was a mess.
"I'm not sexist, I just discriminate against women because I cheated on my wife."
ever thought that his wife is the one who forces him to be like this? in order so that he doesnt cheat anymore? nah because you re a virgin simp. logic is a bridge too far for yall.
Why do you force people to be with people of other genders? Are you also gonna make women and men use the same changing rooms?
@Stranger Things
is that a joke?
@@shakkabo What
@Stranger Things true. I mean I hate men😂
honestly the worst part is that jason was trying to get tarik to "clear his name" or be a "witness of his character" by saying he had been around girls before. Literally equivalent to saying im not racist ive been around black people before. I honestly got a little mald at how nice and chill tarik was trying to be, such a miserable hour of back and forth to sit through
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Ik as a ludbud its in poor taste to spread toxicity anywhere, and i usually would never. But by god that back and forth had me so mad that i wish jason r would join my voice chat so i could just flame this mans for hours.
Did you mean to say mald instead of mad?
@@JeremyTheGraten 😭😭 no tbh ty for pointing that out i must've mistyped
I hate how he said that it's not about his actions being sexist and that it's about providing a good "witness of his character," knowing damn well that if Tarik did, JasonR would take the "witness of character" to defend himself from sexist claims. Actually so Infuriating, like we know what you tryna do and it ain't slick, nor will it change anything.
It’s also weird because it’s like “Tell me you view women as objects without telling me.” Why is ONE interaction from a girl in chat or gaming gonna make you disrespect your wife… you buckle under the choice of infidelity THAT easily?!
exactly👏🏿👏🏿
Honestly I think it's a case of the wife being so incredibly insecure from his past actions that she gets nervous just from the idea of anyone he might be sexually attracted to talking to him/with him
I don’t know if you’re doing it on purpose, but you’re completely misrepresenting his point. His problem isn’t with the girls themselves, it’s how chat tends to react to when male and female streamers play with each other. It’s shipping culture that he hates. And it’s honestly understandable, ninja did the same thing. I’d be pissed too if I devoted my life to one woman and there are people on the Internet making fanfics between me and another person because I played with them once in a game.
@DEG05 ASEDILLO Ruben Robert See I think the problem isn’t your response but rather your mindset. When you say you’re bound to promote a culture of sexism and toxic masculinity when all you hear is other men, what you’re actually saying is that you believe that all men are naturally toxic and sexist and need the guidance of women to not be awful people. That kind of mindset builds a culture of superiority between the sexes which is the definition of sexism so…. Also I noticed how you only talk about men and women but completely neglect anybody who doesn’t identify with the “traditional” gender binary. Him banning women doesn’t mean that he bans people who identify as non-binary, gender fluid, androgynous, etc. so the statement that “all he is hearing is other men” is completely unfounded. I believe the real thing that we should be going after here is not him banning women, but that the reasoning he gives, implies that he only recognizes heterosexual relationships. Think about it, he doesn’t want people getting the wrong idea about him playing with women but doesn’t hold that same sentiment for playing with other men. He claims not to be sexist and I think he’s telling the truth, he’s actually homophobic. Sometimes things are more than meets the surface.
@DEG05 ASEDILLO Ruben Robert while sexism it’s definitely still alive in the gaming scene, I think it often overshadows the blatant trans phobia and homophobia that runs rampant through twitch and TH-cam. It shows with the fact that many people can still get away with saying extremely homophobic and trans phobic insults and slurs whereas if they said something similar about a woman or another race, they would be instantly obliterated from the Internet. I mean seriously, it’s 2022 and 13 US states still have a ban on same-sex marriage. I just personally think it’s worth so much more to go after the system rather then the people affected by it. Through my personal journey, I’ve noticed that it’s really ineffective to be aggressive and antagonistic towards others that hold discriminatory beliefs, because there much more likely to double down and believe that they’re right if you try to force them to change by telling them they’re wrong. It’s much more useful to go after the source of their beliefs, or the system that produced the environment that allows hatred to grow. Please in the future do your best to promote positivity and help those hurting. Fighting fire with fire burns everybody around and likewise fighting hatred with hatred will never allow for an environment where love and understanding can develop.
No he clearly cheated. There's zero trust in that relationship. The wife additionally puts the blame on the women. That relationship is a toxic dumpster fire,
As a women it really frustrates me and lets me down when the girlfriend only blames other women for her boyfriend cheating as opposes to blaming the actual boyfriend who is majority responsible.
@@alexandrapetersen8582 omg yes why has nobody said this
@@alexandrapetersen8582 You mean like when a dude starts a fight with me because i was talking to his "girl" even when i was completely oblivious to this piece of information xD it happens both ways. Blame the person cheating, never the person they cheating with. (Unless a friend or relative ofc)
@@peterkent6250 yeah exactly. Idk why ppl always blame the oblivious one and never the person who actually cheated. Its ridiculous.
@peterkent6250 No, you can ABSOLUTELY blame the person they are cheating with (as well, not just only them) if that person is aware that the situation is explicitly cheating.
But yes, a lot of those being the one they are cheating with don't know they're in a relationship. That happened with me and 4 other girls. NONE of us knew about the majority of the others at all, and the ones that did know maybe one other girl were led to believe that the other was just friends with this guy, or a roommate, etc.
Poor Tarik. You can tell that it hurt his feelings to be accused of being a bad friend. He seems like a genuinely nice guy.
@Women's rights was a Mistake Hey you got something in common with women's rights
@@adler5653 you actually killed him, his comment is gone… now go for the channel.
@@gamingmoyai3950 how’s orxy?
@@gamingmoyai3950 wait. What happened?
@@strawbeare mans posted something vile, got demolished, deleted the comment, then his entire channel, pretty funny ngl
R espect to Tarik for saying somehting and not just letting it slide, being a good friend means confronting them on the bad things they say/do
Dawg u washed up
@@Aahir. still bigger than you though lol L+ratio
Bro wtf is r espect
@@Aahir. L + ratio + plundered + no wenches + ship sunken + you have scurvy
I wish people understood this too. The best type of friend one can have is someone who'll reprimand/stop you from doing something stupid/wrong.
If you can't allow women to exist in your community because you're that much of a cheater... maybe you should reevaluate your relationship. If you can't be in the same room with any woman without wanting to sleep with them, just don't be in a relationship. You are not ready.
also consider joining a monastery or sthg lmfao
Could be hypersexuality, should go be checked if he has outgrown the teen period
@@ShinyShillabro, i'm hypersexual too but that doesn't mean i will cheat on my partner with every other woman i see online or irl 💀 wtf? common decency is so rare these days, i s2g.
@@gutleech never said anything about cheating. I'm saying hypersexuality can be a problem and, regarding his situation, should be checked. I have known people who literally couldn't think of anything else but sex, that is not healthy. I s2g internet only wants to see things black & white, common sense is rare nowadays
also the fact he can’t see women as anything but objects of sexual desire and not people 😂 gross
He uses the word “girl” like a derogatory remark and then tries to claim that he’s not misogynistic... it’s crazy how there’s people actually defending him lol
I mean they did the same thing with the word "cracker" and most people persisted that it doesn't give the word a negative intent.
@@thenightjackal that’s not true, the issue was that it’s not a SLUR not that it’s not meant to be derogatory or offensive. Those are very different things.
@@thenightjackal you tried to make a connection and failed…
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Even funnier was that he called trainwrecks a character witness lmao
I like that Lud has a drama channel to keep us informed
The funniest part being this started as a write-in advice channel
and it's still kinda an advice channel... but mostly just advice for the people involved in the drama he's talking about.
I dont its a bad path to go down. I really dont want lud to become keemstar. Its better when its not just about internet drama
I dont its a bad path to go down. I really dont want lud to become keemstar. Its better when its not just about internet drama
@@Ryleeman54number2 He did want to be a journalist, how good he's at it ehhhh everything he tries to talk about he has a HUGE bias towards one side which makes videos like these kinda pointless.
"Stop being a girl"
Me, a girl: *fades out of existence*
His female family members: *start evaporating*
Start being a girl
suddenly my voice drops an octave and i like the color blue
My body disappears in a puff of smoke. The only thing left of me is my voice, saved only because I am agender.
All of a sudden I disintegrate
I love how QT just absolutely destroys every single person she can and Ludwig just gets to applaud her for it
she truly wears the pants god i love her
Their dynamic is gold
LOVE HER SO MUCH HOLY SHIT
watching qt drag him was incredible but i made the mistake of looking at the replies. i love twitch but sometimes it just reminds me how rampant misogyny still is (esp online). but i've never felt uncomfortable or ostracized for being a woman in your community, thank you for making it a safe n fun place for everyone.
Qt is really cool for calling people out like that
Yes, I feel like the top comments represent the majority. The majority may not be vocal, they usually just like the comment that they agree with.
Then the goblins, who dwell at the bottom of the comments section, reply to those top comments, which is why I try not to scroll too far down. I still have faith in QT's and Lud's community.
I 100% agree with you, as a woman I also feel safe in Luds community. I am proud to be a LudBud :)
Yeah I've always felt supported by Lud and QTs community. They're decent humans.
As you will with most streams lol
Man I COMPLETELY forgot this madness happened until this reappeared on my front page today. This is wild! As one of Lud’s 15 female viewers, I’m glad Mr. Mail is taking a stand
Oh man since he told him he handled it like a girl I guess that means he isn't going to play with him anymore.
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@what now oh wow
STOP HES ALL READY DEAD 🤣
I honestly feel like refusing to play or have women in his chat and using not wanting to disrespect his wife as an excuse tell a lot. Like do you feel so tempted by other women for just existing that you have to shut them all out?
Um no it's clearly his wife enforcing this on him. Can't you see he's being abused?
@@megrocks3026 He's a f**king grown man, why tf would his wife enforce this? Stop defending this guy.
@@Ghostman223 Have you seen the johnny vs amber case? Age and gender have nothing to do with abuse
@@megrocks3026 gender sure, age.. yeah that has stuff to do with abuse, there's even a law. Have you heard of "child endangerment"?
@@Ghostman223 The point is, grown men CAN be abused. I have seen it. I have seen grown men, men who aren't physically weak, be abused by women. Manipulated in believing that everything is their fault. That may not be what's going on here, but don't say it can't happen.
Also, why is everyone obsessed with playing with/chatting with this dude? He obviously wants nothing to do with women, and there are thousands of other streamers. Just go somewhere else. Lol.
QT really wakes up everyday and chooses violence for misogynists. Loving it
I don't know how to phrase this but as a female viewer of Lud, videos like these seem so rare in this genre, it feels like unless I'm watching TH-camrs who very specifically brand themselves as feminist or leftist, most men seem to just go "yeah yeah ig sexism is bad but instead of actually acknowledging it and coming to terms with it I'm going to make a joke and then complain that it keeps getting brought up". I've met tons and tons of guys who on the surface are like Lud but the moment women get added to the conversation we're instantly sub-human, it's so frustrating trying to be in gaming circles yet constantly disrespected by people I called friends. I don't think I can count the number of times I've gotten "this is why I don't play with girls" from people I genuinely considered friends because I said a comment they made was sexist.
Anyway, thanks Lud for admitting his own flaws but also making this video and showing that sexism isn't just one gender's issue, which is kinda sad that this all had to be said cause you'd think it'd be common sense but the bar is on the floor I suppose...
yea i agree 100% . i vet people before i even befriend them. gotta know if you're racist/sexist etc because i'm not wasting my time.
The amount of times ppl on the internet esp in games are openly and violently sexist, racist or homophobic is just insane I wish it was more easy to play and just have fun without running into a million fkn traumatic encounters per day
I feel this comment so much, when I play games online and encounter these types of shitheads I just become timid because I *know* a majority of the server would just gang up on me when I speak up when someone makes an offensive remark. I really shouldnt, and it's just sad and disappointing how rampant sexism/homophobia/racism/transphobia still is in the gaming sphere especially.
I just get the relief time to time when bigger people actually speak up about it and I realize that a lot of people do think the same things as me lol
If you're gonna insult someone everytime they try to talk about anything just because you feel compelled to do so as a "leftist" or "feminist", they're more than justified in not wanting to interact with you or your kind. Stop being a pain and people won't avoid you.
Geez what a buzzkill
I don't think I've heard someone actually whip out the "cum dumpster" insult in an actual argument. I feel like even saying that to someone and trying to play the good person in the story is just an automatic L
Yeah I thought that word was only used in porn.
Only Penguinz0 can wield that word succesfully
I've had someone say that trying flirt with me trying the "you aren't like other girls" method. 🤮
@@hollieweller7051 I would perish at that moment if I were you
@@hollieweller7051 “You aren’t like those other cum dumpster girls… you’re different 😏.”
GAG 😫🔫
as a kid, i remember my camp counselor had this classic line: “stop acting like a little girl” (all of the kids in my group were boys). lets just say, that attitude correlated with how he interacted with his female coworkers….
I am so sick of the sexism in the gaming industry. And I’m not even that involved in the scene. Huge respect to all women who have to put up with this bullshit all the time. Also respect to qt to speak out on this and standing her point even after getting so much backlash for quite some time now.
I know im late but as a gamer girl i think the worst part is the severe amount of sexual harrasment i dont even play any game with randoms anymore ESPECIALLY not on valentines day because its so bad heck even on among us it’s happened its only ever been on valentines day though thankfully but its so disgusting especially since im a SA survivor so it brings back bad memories i had to change my gamertag and my pfp to something you couldn’t tell what gender i was because id have people messaging me some awful things and spamming invites.
There’s definitely sexism and ive ran into that but its sadly not even the worst of it
@@flameepidemic4839 what I hated was when men scoffed and went "tea bagging is just a joke! It's on a video game it ant be sexual harassment!"
Because. You know. Men don't like taking accountability for their misogyny.
When men routinely team kill women, "teabag" them, and say shit like "ungh~ take these nuts" "open wide baby" or other shit. Yes! THAT IS SEXUAL! Fuck's sake.
SOY
i cannot believe he said he “handled it like a girl” that is in fucking sane 😭 but glad that man got rolled he deserved it
sO iF i SaY "hAnDlEd It LiKe A bOy" ThEn I'm A mAn HaTeR? /s
fucking insane*
@@shiny_birb2678 I mean. Yeah
Anything you say that has a negative outlook on a sex is sexist. If that's hard to grasp I don't know what to tell anyone
@@madjerodringo in(fucking)sane*
@@madjerodringo no, it was on purpose 🤦
Edit: Tom Scott has a video on Expletive Infixation. It's an a-fucking-mazing watch.
I love how the wife calls herself a "chill girl" after harrassing a random woman. Suuuper chill
They both need a reality check & intensive therapy
@@Noa-g1ex that's facts
it kind of reminds me of that one cool girl monologue from the movie gone girl
AY, I was waiting for why QT flamed someone lol. Always looking forward to the Ludwig Talks
lud should do a series called LUDTalks it has the same ring as TEDTalks and we all know ludwig, hes a superhero :)
Qt doesn't need a reason to flame someone lol
@@gamerzss Kind of weird she goes all hard against JasonR when she also says so much messed up shit about women, especially against small girl streamers, on stream. There's a reason Mizkif jokes about her degrading women all the time.
When he said "don't be a girl about it" the Curb Your Enthusiasm music immediately queued in my head lmao
has anyone noticed that 90% of insults used in society are women related. I actually dont get it if, when ppl mad at a woman they always insult her with her body for being with other guys. Like is that the only thing ppl can think of when seeing a women? honestly humanity is doomed because of all these weirdo's
That's why I treat mysoginistic men like men treat women. Apparently they don't like being called emotional and getting told to keep their testosterone in check. Or that I'll go back to the kitchen when they go back to dying in wars.
Yeeup
Thats sexism for ya. Being sexist is literal brain rot
Because for decades and centuries women were second class. Every insult is from those times.
i love how he cited trainwrecks as if hes a representative of people who are NOT sexist
SquadW OMEGALUL
and M0E LOL
...or a voice of reason
Train wrecks is pretty okay he was originally the guy who called out titty streamers on twitch and got banned than came back with more viewers and a podcast on there
yeah lmao
Honestly keeping women away from a guy like him is the best thing he’s ever done
Him: "I don't hate women"
Also him: *uses "girl" as an insult*
Sure, makes sense
There are people (most of the time men) calling men "kid" or "boy" as an insult. DO you even know that women are using "girl" as an insult? Like am i a god with social skills or people are lacking experience in society to not know anything about negative encounters.
@@doroza2lol "am I a god with sozial Skills?" Bruh 💀
@@doroza2lol difference is,
calling someone “kid” degrades their mentality, calling someone “kid” means to say they have a mindset and act like a child
Calling someone “boy” or “girl” degrades their sex, “girl” happens to be more of an insult as it has a deep root in misogyny, calling someone boy isn’t equal to as bad but it still degrades sex/gender
Note to self: When stuff goes wrong, look at rolexes
And I will just copy that.
**Copying Intensifies**
Acting rich does make my anxiety drastic go down
But wasn't that a talk to hype tariks, because afaik he's getting a lot of positive attention from this? So when your friendship crashes and burns but your carrer is looking fine, you better look at rolexes not your exes.
I mean titan is better 😎
@@drcks According to studies if you touch money you actually get happy and anxiety goes down touch even if its a dollar or quarters
Did it. It works for me. 💃💅✨👌
yo this is great, but also wanna give credit where credit's due. QT going live and talking about this in real time was fucking everything. it was amazing to see really and truly. calling it out knowing she would get hella hate from JasonR stans in her chat as he was still live was very pog, bummed she deleted the vod.
would love to see more calling out of sexism in the industry ~even when it's not convenient and to the point where everyone already agrees that he's trash.
idk if it deserves that much credit, this Jason guy seems like a pushover's favorite pushover
qts stream was awesome
@what now i hate you for making me think that was a link to QT's VOD
@@Terp0 Yeah she has a VODs channel. Unsure if the VOD about JasonR is there tho.
@@Terp0 she deleted the vod where she talked about it from her twitch and didn't upload to the vod channel, but here's the channel if you wanna subscribe anyways! th-cam.com/channels/nVqum8VA-5TBYcsVhXtMwg.html
The wife the biggest pick me, "I'm not like other girls" imagine being the Man's token woman in his life L wife
what's awful about this incident is that it encourages other misogynistic players to dodge women too in their lobby, with their vision "women r boosted". seen videos of guys dodging more frequently recently smh
Women are the exact opposite of boosted. The amount of time I've seen men whine and bitch and INTENTIONALLY throw a match by dropping a grenade at their feet, and/or teamkilling the woman.... bro.
A woman could have a lower overall KD ratio and still play better than a man because at least 50% of her deaths were whiny men on her own team.
"YOU HAD TO GO AND BE A F- N- A GURL ABOUT IT" He literally searched for slurs and landed on Girl LUL
he said it so uncertainly too like he knew he was about to say something stupid but he couldn't stop himself LOL
Or he was gonna say "fucking" and decided not to
@@him1019sounded like he was going to say fuckin bitch and realized that was kinda vulgar so toned it down to girl, not realizing the irony of the statement lol
their relationship has the same vibe as like... schools that have dress codes that make girls not wear shorts or spaghetti straps because it's "inappropriate" and "distracting" for students and teachers. yknow? like why are we blaming women for existing lmfao
You just Reminded me of one of my favorite stories.
A school dress code specified that girls couldn't wear spaghetti straps and skirts, so a whole bunch of the boys rolled up in skirts, and stuff to protest.
It didn't work, but maximum respect.
Women can exist without whoring themselves.
Man's really just punishing women for existing and then coming out and saying "I'm not misogynistic". That's not how that works man
Ikr. It’s literally the most cut and dry example of misogyny, like you cannot talk your way out of that
Right? And you could replace this with any other demographic and it probably sounds fucked-up the most well-adjusted people.
"I just banned all black people because they tempt me towards becoming a drug addict" or some other nonsense.
He is trying to become a Beacon of Sexism
he didnt dodge bc shes a woman tho
the mysogony leaking into his daily speaking is so gross, im so glad that this is coming up again
*misogyny; also I agree with you
@@mystomachhurts56that word is so terrible 😭😭 why does the English language do that
@@fart63It’s derived from Greek like quite a few of English words are
I know red-pill TH-camrs who won't even allow women to comment on their videos just because we're women, and when we do comment, they throw loads of misogynistic 💩 at us.
I was watching qt over the weekend she was GOING IN it was amazing I don’t know why she deleted VOD because honestly no bad takes and she said things needing saying
I think it was because she ended up doing a singing stream at the end and she doesn't like leaving those up not entirely sure because I had to leave the stream early
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@what now dont press that link
It's because of Twitch. Unlike here, or in many other places, sexism is far more rampant there. People have held that VOD against her already, and if it were still there, they'd continue.
It's admirable how you admit to your own flaws when it comes to sexism in the coversation about denouncing sexism. Really shows your self-awareness and that you're not just drawing the line below you. Great video
holy shit this happened with one of my friends like unironically
he wasnt a streamer he was just super sexist and extremely harsh and judgemental on women's appearances all the time
called me a girl (im not, guess thats an insult idek) while defending himself and everything
some men are wild
Dude you need better friends
All
Yeah I had a few friends like that too sadly. Got called a girl (and gay) for ...not liking sports and having a girlfriend that's taller than me. I hope u have better friends now
In this case, I don't think there's a such thing as a "good" apology. Apologizing does nothing. Bro just needs to pick a career that isn't being an online personality, since he clearly has no idea how to interact with people online.
I mean a much better apology would be to actually state each thing he did, acknowledge that those things were sexist, and actually apologize instead of just saying that his actions were misconstrued.
He literally started off with “taking accountability” and then proceeded to not take any accountability for his actions.
edit: of to off
The worst part is that his apology when he got called out earlier said that "his PC crashed all the times he dodged women", and he doesn't even mention how he actually lied to all the fans countless fucking times.
@@nauseasnarwhal1230 No he is saying he is taking accountability towards his wife. He basically used it to apologize to his wife and complain about people calling him sexist.
Or he can keep doing what he’s doing
You forget that most people a racist, homophobes sexists etc. And those people surprise, also use internet, probably more than normal people. Isin't most of top 100 TH-camrs hated by left, since they are big piece of shits? Monsters as Shapiro and Rogan gain 10th of million views every video lol.
I didn’t know this was a thing but it seems like it should be against TOS to ban people because of their gender…
literally
Saying"x group of people are insta banned" should 100% get you kicked off the platform
@@fendviyo except for "Schlatt's" dream-stan mega ban. That was hype
@@Yoyoyoitsdatboi that's OK because they weren't born dream stans. He banned them because of thier shared interest and had nothing to do with the actual people behind the screen.
@@fendviyo I don’t know let’s say there was a Korean only stream I wouldn’t be too worried it’d need some more details
“I’m not homophobic, stop being a queer about it!”
QT goes HARD on Twitter bro lmfao
She’s hilarious
shes the one that complains to the waiter that their food isn't right for ludwig
Out of respect for his wife, he uses her as a shield when exposed for disrespecting women
That checks out
Can i say how much little jokes like "id actually say like a strong woman" do for inclusion. Like sure its a meme but he acknowledged we exist and it is actually combating dialect rooted in toxic masculinity.Good job Ludwig.
I randomly clicked his stream about 2 years ago and I was banned. Literally never heard of him before and was already banned 💀💀 so I can confirm
Lucky
You’re a good guy Lud. As a woman in gaming I appreciate the men like you
how many women are you
@@menkadem1601 the whole 10% of Lud's viewer base 🥴
@Women's rights was a Mistake WeirdChamp
@Women's rights was a Mistake lmfao ok dude 😆
Did u get banned for being whatever she called other women?
Man legit said the equivalent of “I’m sexist because being sexist is wrong and being wrong is for women” but seriously instead of ironically:
thank you for speaking up on things like this. it feels good to finally have men on womens sides for gaming and showing your audience it’s not cool to be a dick and it’s okay to speak up.
@@doobster3650 in my opinion this is false. only in the recent few years has it been better. to say that i’m being “dramatic” kind of pushes back on the whole thing. very misogynistic.
@@doobster3650 dramatic/extreme okay i misread but it still stands. and it’s barely gotten better if you stand with women then don’t say it’s extreme lol obviously you have no idea
@@doobster3650 🤦🏽♀️ you’re literally proving my point. but I wouldn’t say it’s an increasing number it’s still lower than it should be. but i’m done arguing about this lol i literally live it.
@@bettyspaghetto-drue8901 apron, kitchen, sandwiches. we will call you when we need food.
@@deathrager2404 i’m sure you have a hard time getting any girls number so good luck with that
how is this not the same as any form of Discrimination at this point? Applied to any other group of people they are already banned. Insane
because unchecked misogyny runs rampant online, its practically normalized.
Because misogyny is the status quo.
Bc it’s twitch and the only time they care about women is when they are showing their cleavage
Both him and his wife are beyond wacky, glad they have each other lmao
jasonr's logic is (or was) the same as "im not racist my friend is black"
No it’s more like I’m not racist I have a racist friend. Essentially with how he mentioned train lol
@@jdman2210 Nah it's more like "I'm not racist, but you handled the situation like a ne***"
@@cmd0113 that too but it’s just funny how he specifically mentions train when he isn’t exactly the pillar of “not being sexist”
I thinks it’s more of a my wife doesn’t like black people so I’ll avoid them too
specifically in his case “i’m not sexist my wife is a woman”
The he cheated on her and now she doesn’t trust him talking to any type of female is only thing that would make sense lol
@what now wdym finally? Noone ever gave a shit
My guess is dude is just straight up sexist and uses his girlfriend as an excuse
@@nightseeker226 Probably both
Exactly. I think people are throwing this out of proportion. The dude should just be straight up because it's obvious this is what's happening.
That's the first thing I thought
“He should have talked about it off the internet like a *strong woman* would”
I fucking love Lud lmao
it just makes me so sad to see that still in 2022 we can have an extremely misogynistic guy like this get a fuckton of viewers and have male friends who (previously at least) have brushed it under the rug and didnt care. i'm really glad this blew up. but i'm still sad, just knowing a man like this could still be so successful. and so many other men don't seem to care. we can complain as much as we want and stand up as much as we can, but with the culture of misogyny we still live in, it seems like male voices will be heard and will be listened to on a level i or any other woman are rarely listened to. especially in gaming. men are just taken so much more seriously, it feels hopeless sometimes. even if progress is constant. anyways, i'm glad you've made a video on this, please keep it up 💗 mogul mail are definitely some of my top fav content :)
I’m a misandrist because of this. I will let men taste their own medecine.
@@rose-yeah Medicine*. And is this lazy trolling?
"out of respect to my wife":Shifting Blame, i didnt do it cause i wanted to, i did it cause i had to for someone else
"not a good person to her": Reducing Culpability, not being nice could mean anything from forgetting to take the trash out to murdering her father
"not wanting her to be put through drama" Lying, you're the reason there is drama right now
"my intentions were misconstrued by my actions" Gaslighting, sorry officer my intention wasnt to speed. Sir, we clocked you at 115 mph.
"there are so many lies about me out there" Whataboutism, Gaslighting, if they lied about me about something else this could all be a lie too
"i wish nothing but peace and love for people" Lying, Gaslighting, he wants peace and love for non-vaginas
"i am sorry" Gaslighting. you aren't sorry, if you were really sorry you'd apologize. not shift blame, reduce your culpability, gaslight, whataboutisms, and other stuff to try to make you look like a victim.
holy fuck, learn what gaslighting means
Y'know most people avoid cheating by not cheating with people, not by avoiding people altogether.
If you have to avoid women all together to avoid cheating, you need rehab not mysogny.
The fact that no editting had to be done puts his degree to good use
I like how lud admits that he says some weird things every once and a while. 8:26
@@doobster3650 yeah i agree. it definitely isn’t amazing but in the grand scheme of thid its really not a big deal at all
"I had people like Trainwrecks backing me up."
as a woman, i really love and appreciate this video, it's a really vulnerable video that i love watching, thanks lud :)
Banned
@@t.wassily8727 we still here bitch
@@t.wassily8727 so edgy😍
The "easier to explain over voice chat" strikes me as "lets talk about it where it cant be chatlogged."
Summary: JasonR is insecure, sexist and probably cheated, wife is a pick me girl, Tarik has the patience of a saint and Nadeshot is as wise as ever. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Their relationship is so fucking toxic dude, it’s insane, they need to just break up
tarik is a simp in denial. jason is a loser for letting his woman decide whom he can and cannot talk to.
I love how “online situations” is really just code for girls.
He’s not sexist because his wife is overprotective and overly jealous and he respects that because he loves his wife
He’s sexist because he clearly doesn’t respect women and uses his wife being overprotective and overly jealous as an excuse 💀
It's really cute for him to bring up how QT caught the guy-- idk it's like "look at how sassy and right my lady is" and it's just so cute and wholesome. That's how you support your lady right there. Take notes crusty ass Jason
pretty confident you called it with him cheating on his "wife" Lmao
Which makes sense. I think there's a low chance that a person especially a woman would gatekeep him from talking to another woman if he didn't do something bad to her.
@@Ihavealeftbrain her logs are kinda crazy but we don't know that she was predisposed to say that or if he did something to make her have that reaction/say those things
Mad respect for talking about internalized sexism thats a super real thing that ppl with platforms hate admitting to have
Nah
@@Punanieater Thanks Punanieater6000 for the contribution.
@@guhrid4893 rajah
@@Punanieater yah
i’m really glad this has been brought to light and i hope the valorant community realizes how sexist people in this game are. when i wanna dodge a map i just say hiiii guys what’s uuuuup and some dude always goes “it’s a woman i’m dodging” i at least use it to my advantage but damn lmao
I really liked this video. Thanks for pointing out that bigotry doesn't have to be to a cartoonish extent or obviously evil to be real, and thanks for also owning that you're not perfect about these things either. People need to hear these lessons from people they like and respect, and I'm glad you don't have a problem putting these messages out there.
The interesting part here is when Tarik offered actual advice on how he could fix this, JasonR wouldn't listen at all and still insists that Tarik is an L friend. Personally I think what Tarik was doing was the characteristic of a good friend - not condoning your friend's bad actions and instead trying to give advice on how to fix it.
Also, Roza gave a take similar to what JasonR insists Tarik should give, and then JasonR claims that he was "backed up" by Roza. But when he was pushing Tarik to do the same thing, he's insisting that he doesn't necessarily want Tarik to "back him up" but instead be a "witness of his character". So basically JasonR wants Tarik to back him up but is being really vague about it. And it's ironic how he's saying Tarik isn't backing him up because of Tarik's huge fanbase/viewership when to me, it looks like JasonR wants to use Tarik's huge viewership to "fix" his image.
JasonR is literally the L friend- gaslighting Tarik, not listening to his advice, talking behind his back, literally lying about his intentions, trying to use his viewership, etc.
It’s giving “I’m not from a woman….I just spawned in this world” 💀💀
I went on a school trip last week to New York and met the former mayor (Mohammed Hameeduddin) of Teaneck, NJ, an area with a lot of diverse peoples and a fairly significant Jewish population (I got to a private Jewish high school btw) and he talked about how people think its ok to be "a little bit antisemitic" or "a little bit racist" because these thoughts of Jews controlling the economy and other stereotypes had been thrown around by a lot of people in the past and that people who are seriously racist are much worse than themselves. I think you nailed it by explaining that now we obviously know that these things aren't acceptable that we can't tolerate people thinking that just because they aren't being at that maximum level, they are excused from having any belief of racism, sexism, antisemitism, etc.
Luds “sexist” impersonation @ 8:03 is one of the best things I’ve ever seen.
"you're not a good friend because when people called me sexist, instead of having my back, you acted like a girl about it" is just a perfect statement, no notes
Honestly, I was generally someone who did not enjoy QT upon my first couple times I was exposed to her through other people's streams I watch. In the past half a year or so, following Ludwig more often and just generally being more active in Twitch content, and she's won me over. W streamer, W woman, pretty based at times. I was wrong to not give her more of a chance, should have known if Lud was into her, that I probably had the wrong impression.
QT is lowkey a calculated Twitter savage and I fuckin' love that.
Out of curiosity, why did you not like her at first and only later liked her? Surely you didn’t change your mind just because she was close with Ludwig 💀
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy out of curiosity, can you read? And why do you care?
I just cannot imagine arguing with someone with enough people to fill the area in my city. lmao
I love how Ludwig always gives props to QT in these videos
I love QT's clap back. She's literally my Icon
Look I don’t know the man or watched him so idk if he’s sexist or not but I for one would not say “don’t be a girl about it” when trying to not be sexist. Imagine saying “I’m not racist, don’t act black about it” 😂
REAL friends call you out for your bad qualities, they try to make you see your wrong doing/thinking, real friends don’t just support your good qualities, but they also help you become a better person.
I laughed so hard when I read the first line of QT's tweeter profile reads: "Pokimane's Friend."
Mogul mail is the new drama alert
he's the type of guy to cry about women not wanting him
those chat logs are so hard to read. How can you say something so hurtful to someone you don’t even know
Lud has our back🤝 Ty for speaking out!
Genuinely one of the worst, most tone-deaf apologies I've seen. And I've seen A LOT of apologies. Bro was like "I'm sorry for the vague thing I might have done, it was because of my wife bro believe me"
3:38 it's pretty funny nobody batted an eye at Nadeshots "He should have came to you like a man" comment that is exactly the same as JasonR calling Tarik a girl.
Think this guy needs to realise that times are and have massively changed. We are here to stay and enjoy gaming and the internet regardless of gremlins like this guy that exist. It’s not boys vs girls and all that petty stuff anymore .. the world has moved on and people are trying to be equal. This guy and his way of thinking will get left behind and forgotten.
Thank you for this Lud. Gives me hope when any guy talks about stuff like this for a better future for everyone.
when women enter our field, there is nothing to enjoy. dont you get that?
@@deathrager2404 dude you need to go touch some grass
@@deathrager2404what field?
The way the mod was like “hop in vc so I don’t have to type out ‘he’s banned you for being a girl’ so no one can get screenshots”
There is a difference between acting cautious around girls because of a history of cheating and straight up misogyny. I would understand if he just didn’t play with female streamers but was nice to them but banning females in chat, leaving games with girls in them and insulting them, that’s a whole different story.
I understand where your coming from, but still no. Even in that scenario. If you DONT wanna cheat on your wife, just CHOOSE not to. Just because your around women doesn’t mean you HAVE to sleep with them or anything, they aren’t forcing you to so it’s a lame ass excuse to be like “oh I didn’t wanna be around women because I didn’t wanna cheat 🥺🥺🥺” like- just don’t then… nobody’s making you.
@@danicareithaug3300 well obviously it would be for his wife. If he doesn’t wanna play with women streamers then who gives a shit. His life and stream. Now banning all women in chat and overall being a dick to women not cool
@@danicareithaug3300 ignore we’re talking about this guy for a second. There are some people who are compulsive cheaters and can’t control themselves. If the guy had that (I know he doesn’t), then it would be reasonable to limit interactions with female streamers who he doesn’t feel comfortable with. It’s like of an alcoholic refuses to go to any party where booze is even an option to drink. Bit extreme but only they know their limits and they stay within them. Can’t just say “just don’t drink 🙄”
@@gridlock1637 yeah I get that, but it’s also kinda insulting to women because he’s making it seem like we’re objects, even if he wanted to cheat, there’s no reason to say that the women would want to be with him. I get ur point but not interacting with women AT ALL whether or not they’re interested in him is really rude. Women are a part of everyday society and him pretending like they don’t exist outside of his pleasure is really fucked up. (Not hating on you btw, u seem cool :)) Thank you for having an open conversation with me btw it’s refreshing haha.
no I think just having to "stay cautious" around girls is fucking weird