Alt-right literally means someone on the far right. If you like the alt-right that means you are part of it. Most normal people don't like anyone that's too far left or right because they are normally just being tools of the current powerful families fighting for power. It means you are likely totally bias and eat up all the lies told on the news networks.
I still think Thunderf00t is right about Musk. I think he's been focusing on him because out of eveyrthing he's debunked, Elon keeps getting more and more wealthy, more and more power. All the other things were like, a single kickstarter that raised like $100,000 and then failed. Elon and his company have been getting paid BILLIONS of tax dollars over the years, have been involved in some not always suuuuuper legal activities (Elon himself worked in the US as an illegal alien in the 90s lmao), and now he's cozying up with Trump to get even MORE influence. So to me, it makes sense that that kind of activity would cause him to focus on him more than anything before. Trump's literally making him the head of a redundant (the GAO already exists) government agency to unironically reduce inefficiency in the government, even though he doesn't exactly have a great track record with handling US tax dollars efficiently.
exactly Molotof doesn't get it how much power Elon holds while acting like buthurt 10 year old. This is/will be one of the greatest destrucion of planetary wealth of all time :D. After everyone will know those frauds Elon could be compared to a earthquake/hurricane natural catastrophe :P
I 100 % agree that Musk is Turd but like the Orange one they do not hear you. The video supports Thunderfoot and credits his fine work, T should go back to his base and Bust the balls of those other sh1ts that Grift and control our lives. I have great respect for T but this Musk trolling is taking T away from using his forensic skill to fight a more just cause, I also miss his very interesting scientific content. Repecfully.
I often recheck his claims. He first rub me wrong on a cold fusion video. In essence he claim that if the footage he show of someone simulating one on a small scale that the radiation dose will be quite damaging and fatal. It take quite a digging and calculating and he just (even thou he is a specialist) forget that neutron radiation is blocked by water and plastic. And all models were submerge in water and in plastic container. Not mentioning he forget a square law. After that as his debunk videos stop so is me watching him.
He made a butthurt anti Jordan Peterson video , where he actually said . "JP doesn't need all those subs/donations". He's the more rightious one who deserves the money to fund all his expensive equipment he needs for his experiments and videos. It was pure entitlement, and was devoid of any of the logic he's supposed to uphold
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the people and media that get the most hate are the ones that USED to be good. We see something good get destroyed by idiocy and it angers us way more than something just being awful from the start.
@bad_juju I've always felt somewhat perturbed by Elon, some things just seemed to good to be true; I also received mild sometimes moderate backlash for my skepticism, so Thunderf00t videos fill me with immense vindication, well his videos and the people who are with me now who weren't prior to Elon going on the worlds largest Billionaire humiliation ritual
Yes, he is right, but the key word there is "obsessed." I love watching his science stuff. As soon as I hear Elon, though, I realize it's going to be the same video as his previous and don't really care to hear it.
@yikwanwong8267 did I imply he wasn't right? All I'm saying is that TF had a much more interesting channel before it became 95% about a single con man.
Boeing isn't really doing that badly, and many aircraft companies have a long history of producing flawed aircraft. People who are far more knowledgeable on the subject had also weighed in on the matter, extensively.
I used to watch Thunderf00t. Ever since Brexit and when Trump was elected in 2016, that forever broke this man. I followed him for science, not politics.
His political takes always surprised me. The "anti-woke", "anti-sjw", "anti-muslim" guy is now talking about social acceptability, falling in line and how brexit is bad. If he wasnt so focused on musk rn, I have no doubt hed turn his attention to the east, and start supporting gaza. Dude has no principles.
@@Handles_AreStupidIt was quite obvious he would be Remain - he is a well educated, working age person, living inside the EU - most of these people were remain
@@gareth6326 Thats because the well educated have always loved the idea of social planning, and they are far more willing to pay higher taxes to do so. Thankfully, these types are out numbered by sane people that realise that planning a society around humans like an obstacle instead of planning it based on human nature is a terrible idea that will never work.
@@Handles_AreStupid I can't tell if you are trying to be sarcastic or not about educated people wanting to pay more tax?? But you talking about a nonexistent EU tax is just confusing. (My post wasn't arguing for/against Brexit - this is not my first day on YT, there is no point trying to change people's minds about that)
@@gareth6326 The "nonexistent EU tax" is paid at the state level, and the uk was a net contributor to the EU, meaning that we paid more in than we got out in benefits like trade agreements, reduced tarifs etc. This absolutely contributes how much you end up paying in taxes, not that the uk gov needs an excuse to endlessly raise them. looking forward to labour doubtlessly raising taxes by another 2%, only for the tories to then go and raise it by 3% in their next term... The educated people wanting to pay more taxes line is a dig at "intellectual marxism", which is VERY common in uni educated people. Thats where the "social planning" jabs come in, too.
The thing is he is right. Even Smarter Every Day admitted that the Artemis program for example, with its plan of using several starships is an engineering malpractice.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I think it's funny when Brits yammer on and on, trying to lecture Americans about anything. As if we didn't fight and win an entire war just so we could tell them to f*ck off.
I am a Dutch anarchist and Obsessed with American and to a smaller extent British politics. Because voting in my country doesn't bring real change. And having the right US president does. Culturally, the west copies each other. Woke was a France invention, made toxic in the US, and blew over the *Atlantic to make it relatively widespread, albeit slightly less toxic here too. US foreign intervention impacted our lives greatly. The US economy impacts my life greatly. And I am still salty the Yankees re-elected Bush and Obama.
I have a theory as well. Thunderfoot has never escaped the institutional bubble. It chaps his ass that the private sector is capable of crushing the public sector in applied science.
This is the reason why he was against Brexit. He saw the UK leaving the EU as a threat to his public funding. This happened in 2016 combined with Trump becoming president. Seems to me like the combo really kicked his pro-establishment stance into overdrive.
@@BrainBurnStudios No, it wasn't. Nothing wrong with leaving a self-electing tyrannical government that imposes their will on other countries. Nothing wrong with leaving a corrupt institiution where the MEPs don't even know what the hell they're voting for. The idea of leaving was good. Now the UK needs a competent government that will implement it properly, as opposed to the immature children of the previous and the current administration.
@@MrSardoc1 Exactly, the subsequent governments after brexit have done everything possible to make it fail so we would go back to the EU. If we actually used the new powers we had to imrpove our country, the UK would be flying compared to those stuck in the EU's protectionist zone.
Thunderfoot may get a bit repetitive at times, but he has a good track record of getting it right when it comes to predictions regarding what Elon's companies actually produce. As an example, no one can say the Las Vegas Loop bears any relationship to the initial proposal of a loop system of tunnels that would allow cars to be autonomously transported at 150mph.
@Emiliocab47 I agree Thunderf00t was right about the HyperLoop. So that's one Musk prediction. Are there any other Musk predictions by Thunderf00t that would make it a "good track record"?
@dantealighieri799 He was also correct about his solar roof tiles and the Tesla Roadster. I'm pretty sure he will be right about Starship. I don't think that Starship will be a rapidly reusable rocket system that will take us to Mars or even the moon.
@@Emiliocab47 TF was most wrong when it came to SpaceX compared to the others, so I would not count on the Starship predictions being right outside of E2E. That Roadster is apparently still in dev btw, so it might just be very late rather than dead and technically shouldn't be given yet. The roof tiles do exist but in limited capacity. So he got Hyperloop. The Loop might still be too early to call but he's likely to get that one. Outside of that you have to pick specific Musk claims rather than the whole topic for TF to be right.
I went and looked situation a few weeks / month ago and around 10 out of 15 of his newest videos in the video page were related to Musk. I watched his takes occasionally before, but stopped few years ago because content or his takes were not very interesting anymore. Seems he has dug even deeper.
Buut - it is so far failing? Badly? 3 years late and double the price on their part in artemis - with no end in sight, actually delivering the contract service still far out of reach. Still no orbital elevation reached after 5 test flights. Mass as well as carrying capacity corrected down several times. Rapid reusability as far away as it ever was (Falcon 9 as a much simpler system still needs at least 30 days turnaround, usually much longer, actual economic pricing juust expensive as 60s soviet single use tech NASA bought from russia since the shuttle program ended). It might still turn out, and interesting work has been done - but so far the contractual promises are years late ond not even visible on the horizon. Usually that is called a project failure.
@FischerNilsA SpaceX is routinely launching satellites into orbit and is the only private company to ever successfully launch humans into orbit in human history. They are also using their self landing falcon 9s for their Starlink launches. I don't care about Elon's made up time frames. The company is actively making progress where no one else has ever.
@@FischerNilsA Yes Elon Musk is a little bit "optimistic" in his time tables, but the progress is undeniable, especially in the last year. I think that we will not get below the 10 days turnaround. Nevertheless this will be sufficient for a moonbase and its resupply. Mars maybe a bit of a stretch without nuclear engines or nuclear reactor and ion drives.
@@FischerNilsA succeeding at a slow and steady pace is not failing, nor is progressing at a slow and steady pace in cases where the goal hasn't yet been achieved. The trend thus far regardless of pace has been achievement or at very least innovation. It's like calling a guy poor because "Buuuuuuuuut it took him 30 YEARS to afford the 3 story 9 bedroom mansion with a 4 car garage that he now owns!"
@FischerNilsA Hasn't SpaceX become the most used company for trips to the ISS? They very much have proven themselves, optimism in anything regarding space exploration should be celebrated
That is my engineering manager. The man hates Elon, for made-up reasons. He might have "smart guy syndrome" since he's quite smart. But the 15-minute lunch-hour rant after most of us talk about how great the starship launch was is insane. We have to pretend he's not crazy, try to forget what he said, and eat the rest of our lunch in silence until he leaves is tiresome.
@@thdjjfsfh I had one Physics Professor that was the same way. He kept comparing Elon to Thomas Edison. Stating that they were both unintelligent people that got to where they were on luck... Have to be really lucky then. But he was in the minority. Had a few Professors from NASA that loved Space X.
You missed one critical point of his recent departure from reality, last year he made himself a geostrategic expert, and tried to chime in on predictions regarding the Ukraine war, all of which were fantasies from Putin being deposed to the war ending in a Russian defeat within months. No facts just happy optimism.
I still remember a lot of people talking about how Ukraine was going to oust Russia in under 3 months. We're coming up on almost 2 years with no end in sight.
@@Green_Tea_Coffee They are pretty much falling back on all of the frontlines, in some places they are doing a bit better, like in Kursk, but only because there's a bunch of battle hardened veterans fighting there with the best stuff available. It's only a matter of time.
Even the MAGA Briths are completely brainwashend on Ukrainan war. You can tell the Agnglo Imperialists consider an united Europe the thing that would make them irrelevant and so, it must be avoided at all costs.
@@flamekiller3338 I wonder at what point it could be considered actual harassment, the same person making the same video about the same person as much he has. I mean it's definitely not sane
It's fine for him to criticise Musk and his ventures, but i hate the way he seems to genuinely hope for Musk to fail. Thunderf00t would rather see SpaceX fail than successfully put a man on Mars. It's so insanely spiteful.
Of course he would. Musk is a liar and a conman. The video author seems to sort of roundabout support Musk by implying most Musk haters only hate him because he's more successful than them, which is fucking stupid lol. Thunderf00t is a bit overly obsessed with Musk (I guess it's sort of his job, as a TH-camr), and I am NO Thunderf00t supporter (I haven't been for a very long time, since before his pre-gamer gate obsession I always found him obnoxious with his constant complaining about religion), but if there's ANYTHING about Thunderf00t that is worth giving a pass, it's his criticism of Elon Musk. Everyone in the comments is trying to roast Thunderf00t as "he hates musk but musk doesnt even know who he is!", which is a naive and childish take. Musk is a public person and a con artist. Why should him knowing who I am stop or limit me from speaking out against him? Don't be so dense lol.
I kind of understand where Thunderfoot has gone. I have long realized Musk is a fraud and used car sales man for a long time but once you come to realize this you can just accept it and move on or let it take over you.
If he had gripes from the perspective of an American I could get it I think. Personally, I really resent that Musk, a government contractor, will be given a position IN GOVERNMENT to regulate the government's spending - including to branches of government that are the ones REGULATING HIS COMPANIES, much less the ones FUNDING them. Trump had already said that Elon would have begged him if he said to, so I don't see how Elon being in charge of spending ISN'T a conflict of interest. I really just wish that SpaceX existed without him as a figurehead, because they do absolutely do cool things, but it's just turned into a chest beating competition now, and his impossible claims get them hyped and then dunked for no reason. Like, claiming we can just colonize and teraform mars in a couple decades or whatever (claiming we'd already be landed there without having even left low earth orbit yet), etc. SpaceX is so cool, but the claims just suck, and the conflict of interest is annoying. - and I'd be saying the same thing if the Boeing CEO was appointed, or Lockheed, or ratheon, etc.
Yes, he wants Musk to fail. I understand why. Thunderf00t, with some justification, considers Musk a liar and a grifter. I agree with him on this. Where we differ is Musk has become Thunderf00t's obsession.
Oh God that brings back memories in fact thunderfoot is how I found Sargon which led me to razor Fest which led me to Styx hexenhammer which led me to Amazing Atheist is how I found Daniel sulzbach and then I found the skeptic Community like armored skeptic which also died off which also led to shoe on head various other Rising Stars like Brandon herrera's videos and other critics
@@Christobanistan This was back in 2010 - some guy photoshopped him into gay porn and he threatened to pursue legal action. It's still on thunderf00t's channel - search up "Crossing the Line"
What I wouldn't give to see that debate again, but with current day Carl and current day Philip... I think Carl won pretty handily last time, I think he would DESTROY him as he is now.
People in academia fail to understand religion. It's not the belief in God or gods, it's simply a different name for culture. If your culture defines you more than you define it, you're religious.
@@napoleonfeanor It was all downhill when he had a debate with Sargon of Akkad/Carl Benjamin. This time was the fall of all the 'great debate' content creators. They of course had the science and good arguments, but when it came to politics, almost all of them fell into the exact same fallacy traps and argument styles as the people they taught used. None of them were paying any attention the the orthodoxy and venomous mind virus disease of woke identity politics fueled by neo-marxism under the guise of Freethinking Atheism/Agnosticism. Hitchens warned them about it but they didn't pay attention to him, just sucked up to him.
@@stephenw2992 He was quite good and adept at explaining scientific principles etc. Solar roadways was his last recent good debunk until he went super obsessive. It wasn't like debunking Nephillim free. He is a chemistry Scientist by trade though. Very intelligent, just doesn't take criticism well in the long run.
@@SmugLee-r6y I didnt see his early stuff, but his later science wasnt that good in my opinion. He didnt explain it that well, but better than nothing I guess. His main content is made to massage his bloated ego doing click bait with endlessly recycled clips from previous videos. Just another formerly good TH-camr that ended up destroying themselves.
harris was never smart or worth a listen. the only reason he became famous is because he's a jew and he was allowed to say things 20 years ago that would get anyone else banned or at least labeled a brand risk.
lolwut Sam Harris is fine, just listened to him and even though I disagree with him on many things, he doesn't have any kind of derangement syndrome. Very level headed and reasonable guy.
@@bitharne nah, he brings valid criticisms. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking anyone who criticizes Trump has TDS bc of how many valid criticisms there are against Trump.
This "mental decay" and "devolved" hyperbolie is kinda silly. Sure, he's obsessed with pointing out the failures of hyperloop, robotaxi, boring, colonizing Mars, etc. lately but he's bound to move on to something else soon. For a while, he was all about making fun of feminists, remember that?
Thunderf00t's ego is his downfall. He thinks he knows better than not just the 13,000 SpaceX employees, but also NASA leadership that chose Starship to land on the Moon again.
Well, he is right about SpaceX failing with the roadmap, and he is right about the progress being overhyped in context of wanting to bring people safely to the Moon and Mars with Starship, and also reusing the rocket system. He is also right about Musks systematic, extremely exaggerated claims and straight lies. He is also right about the company being kept alive by tax money, and he is right about SpaceX ignoring environmental rules. And he is right about a bunch of other objective things regarding this project. Hard to deny any of those, no matter what NASA and SpaceX employees say.
....... and just how is that aim of landing on the moon going for Musk? Musk - 'Let me be clear, we can do this NOW!!' ; Solar Roof Tiles - No. Robotaxi - No. Semi Truck - No. Self Driving Car - No. Hyperloop - No. Land on the Moon - No. Land on Mars - No. ....... and on and on and on ad infinitum. Crash Twitter and Plummet it's Stock Value - Yes. Flamethrower - Yes. Bang Johnny Depps wife - Yes. Have kids to half a dozen different women - Yes.
@@mastervaderm16 Lol, they do matter. Elon is incompetent when it comes to his leadership role and Space X is wasting more money than it's worth, when compared to Nasa. It really is only being kept alive by tax payer money at this point and If it weren't for all the government subsidies, it would have failed by now. These are valid points. Saying they don't matter is missing the forest for the trees.
The Brexit debate with Sargon is actually what started to turn me right wing. I went into that livestream having no idea who Carl was and just being a Thunderf00t fan. It was just hours of cope and his primary argument was how much money scientists get from the EU. Bribery is not an argument.
Especially when the overwhelming majority of modern "science" is: You want this grant? Here's the subject, and here's the results I WANT." There's always someone willing to get the results the money needs, not the Truth.
@Pushin_Buttons Yep, I voted remain. He has a habit of making arguments that are hard to disagree with. Doesn't help that the progressive made that trivial for him to do at almost every turn. The Brett Kavanaugh debacle is where I turned full MAGA.
When I first saw his videos, something felt off, but the Christians he mocked were ridiculous, so I overlooked it, then years later I realised what it was; It was exactly like watching a nerdy bully pick on a stupid kid for being stupid. thunderf00t has always been a bully. he doesn't actually care about science or the facts or debate, he just uses them to publicly humiliate people, the moment he is held to the standards he demands of others, he folds and doubles down to the very same illogical strategies and emotional defences they use.
It is funny that people never seem to pick up on that shit. The nerds who were bullied hate the working class because in the back of their minds they see the guys who gave them shit in high school.
There is nothing wrong for taking people to task on their ideas. I would not call that kind of thing being a "bully". You are, however, completely correct about him collapsing into an embarrassing mess the moment he is held to the standards he holds others to, the moment he is on the receiving end of a logical takedown.
Thunderfoot used to be amusing while he was bashing hack science and scams. Aaaand then he attempted to branch out into a field he knows nothing in, everything except chemistry and astronomy.
It's the classic example of someone with some degree of competence in specific areas going way outside those areas and looking stupid as a result. Best comparison I cam make is seeing people whose bread and butter is lgbt politics delving into geopolitics and coming up with some of the worst takes imaginable.
Exactly. My "breaking point" was his videos about the huge Beirut explosion in 2020. It was obvious even to a non-professionally educated dude like me that he had no clue what he was talking about, yet he was constantly trying to debuke the takes of experts on the topic. I could never take him serious after that.
@@directrulefromgamerchair3947 Kinda like that Niel Degrass or whatever his name is, loves to stick his foot in his mouth and show the world he's an actual idiot.
It was crazy to see his spiral. I used to love him for commentary and BUSTED series. Then it seems the BUSTED Series turned into some kind of stalker series about how "the man I hate the most in the world is wrong about everything, and this is why" lol... Man, there have been so many people I used to watch on youtube that just went nuts. It's depressing.
Used to love thunderf00t until I read the full writeup about Stefan Molyneux's wife and realised Thunderf00t had purposefully lied to discredit Molyneux, and I realised he wasn't in it for truth like he said he was.
He is very dishonest in how he selectively edits videos and always has been. He likes to bully people too, I tried to mediate in a dispute of another TH-camr and him, but it proved impossible due to his vast ego and spite. He quite likes life ruination, doxing - when it isnt him on the end of it, even if it isnt necessary to go that far. He has previously even created fake accounts to copyright strike his own channel to pursue a vendetta, though he did get caught out on this idea - CrazyRussianHacker and adding an extra 'r' saga.
Good video, I also remember watching Thunderf00t long long ago. Elon Derangement Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome has broken millions of people throughout 2016-2024. I don't know if these people can mentally recover, I've not personally seen 'the worst offenders' ever recover, only the Light-offenders of having the Derangement Syndrome.
To be fair Thunderf00t saw Elon for the dishonest weirdo he is a lot sooner. About 5 years ago not many people would have guessed that Elon would support Trump and become as crazy as he is. Thunderf00t saw it though. He noticed the promises he broke. He noticed that he continues to make such promises even though he had the experience that he past promises failed (which suggest deceit rather then innocent optimism). I wouldn't be surprised if Elon will end up facing legal challanges due to his unethical behavior. But i completely agree with you that it's too much Elon related stuff. It looks like unhealthy obsession and it got to the point that whenever i see a new video of Thunderf00t suggested to me i pray/hope that it won't be about Elon again. I liked his channel for the science related stuff and the debunking of science related stuff.
You're absolutely right. He's tilting. I know a lot of guys like him. The are very intelligent and it is INCONCEIVABLE to them that their emotions have gotten the best of them. It's a blind spot. We are all effected by it.
I had the same thought, i wonder where this huge amount emotion came from that took over his intelligence? maybe he lacks in self awareness. But I wonder, did he fail the game of life so bad that he is so incredibly badly that he is just jealous and bitter of other people's success that he actively tries to take them down with him?
intelligence is not the same as wisdom. just because you are on the spectrum like thundercuck does not mean that you can then know what to do with that information.
@@123lowp It's neither. TF still makes valid points, but he's let his emotions get the best and hold him to his earlier positions when he needs to re-evaluate based on new evidence. He's suffering from an eternal case of confirmation bias.
@@dsdgdsfegfeg He's been correct for a while. and then he got far too involved in wanting to watch a thing fail instead of explaining why it will fail.
@@Puddingskin01 I haven't watch thunderfoot for about 12 months. I noticed he was mainly concentrating on Musk 95%. Probably concentrating on keeping viewership up, that's normal. And Musk is sadly relevant & damaging to society. I don't remember Thunderfoot saying anything that was wrong though.
I was there the day he broke, it was shortly before the Brexit referendum and he had a debate with Sargon of Akkad. That night did irreparable damage to his psychology and he never recovered. He never really understood why someone wouldn't just accept a blase assertion that, _"You're going to split the country!"_ wasn't a good enough excuse for the curtailment of the democratic process.
Gamergate really started that snowball rolling however, despite his ongoing criticism of Anita Sarkeesian at the time, he still saw Gamergate as some racist, sexist, homophobic, neo-n@zi movement. Apparently the idea of truth in media is something he's never quite understood.
And Sargon wasn't even a great debater back then, the mere notion that someone could be in favour of brexit was enough to completely mentally break him. I was there when it happened.
I remember the moment I realized Thunderfoot was no longer objective. There was a video that stated the fact that Carbon dioxide was odorless and tasteless and Thunderfoot laughed and called that absurd. To disprove this he opened up a soda sniffed it and it burnt his nose. What he was smelling was carbonic acid, not straight carbon dioxide. I left a comment to correct him and he never responded or corrected. He seemed more interested in showing the other person was wrong, he lost interest in being factually correct.
He was never objective. He would always make a long repetitive argument, riddled with opinion, while trying to make himself sound smart than just lay out facts. It was always about sounding smart and never the actual subject at hand. And that was sustainable at first when he was picking correct side of an argument. But then he started picking the wrong side, and that argument style just makes him sound stupider and stupider. An example was solar roadways. He had hours of content on how it would break, how it wasn't tested, how it was slippery, how the inventers were idiots. Which was all true. But he could have just said "it will always be cheaper to build a roof over the road and install PV on that". Of course that wouldnt have allowed him to sound superior.
@@herrschaftg35 While it's true that it's natural, Uranium-235 is also naturally occuring, we just manipulated it a bit with centrifuges so there's more in one place and less in another. "More here, less there is broadly damaging an ecosystem" is a reasonable statement to call a pollutant, if you consider say, dumping fissile uranium waste back onto/inside mountainsides as being pollution. Or maybe you don't, and that's fine too. But by that perspective, nearly nothing is a pollutant, as most elements occur naturally. (Pro-nuclear btw, but waste/side-effect containment needs real consideration, same as any power generation mechanism.)
@@DancerVeiledHUH my dude co2 is used in greenhouses to grow plants co2 increasing is literally greening deserts because lesseater is lost per molecule of co2 absorbed via diffusion through stomata
Whether he was right or wrong on any particular question, I got the impression that he didn't like to be challenged. Not saying the guy was always wrong by any means, but he seemed unable to accept what he saw as criticism as far as I could tell (full admission: yes, he also didn't answer me when I 'corrected' him - but I would have been fine with a reply correcting me if he could back up his claim; instead, I got no reply, so how is this supposed to educate me if I was in fact mistaken?). Anyway, I wish him all the best - he certainly did have some interesting things up, like the alkali metal coulomb explosions in water. I asked him about getting a copy of his paper but no reply there either. Maybe he considered me to dumb to be worthy... or, maybe he just didn't read all the comments (I think I tried emailing my request too, but not sure now). I'd still be interested in reading his paper, but maybe I'll need to go to the library :)
He being an academic explains it to me. He didn't make intelligence his identity, he made it BEING RIGHT. This is what is known in pro circles as a "bad move". Why? NOBODY is right ALL THE TIME. He got so used to constantly telling people how and why they were wrong that he started to believe he was always right, so now he can't accept his own mistakes. And yes, as many picked up: This is the same mechanism for the TDS that has ravaged the world.
' he made it BEING RIGHT.' Completely incorrect. I'm 180 IQ range, I focus on being actually correct. Thunderfoot often has agendas that are far from 'being correct'. Realize, he doesn't even see the forest for the trees on Trump. Having been aware of Trump since the late 1970s to early 80s, and especially of the democrat jealousy from the early 90s range with the 'too big to fail' idea, I knew Trump was the best choice by far from even before the escalator. 'Linear logic + 1 or 2 percent chaos' is vastly superior to 'only linear logic'. The reasoning for why is actually kind of trivial, it's funny that so few really understand it. I've known 2 or 3 CEOs who were very similar to Trump, the results are fairly predictable and repeatable. Realize, not bashing you or anything, just understand that isn't it. It isn't 'not being correct all the time'. He isn't even remotely trying to be correct, he's trying to fit completely inferior, preconceived notions to make the desired result true. It's actually far below what he is capable of, but it is what he was trained to do to fit in as an academic, northern democrat.
@@D64nz ' No wonder your IQ is only 108.' LOL Another ~130 range try hard and pretend, who bought the silly garbage Hawking handed out that 'lower IQ people's opinions matter..' You do understand he lied to you with that crap, right? To both be more 'popular', and to give you guys pacifiers so you wouldn't bother him. Just keep sucking on that pacifier hard as you and pretending something ridculous you say actually affects anything.
@@ModelLights Friendly bit of advise here, but don't start anything by announcing your IQ. Just knowing your IQ is a red flag. It says that you either took one of those free IQ tests on the internet that everyone takes and are completely meaningless, and you took the results seriously... or you actually paid for a real IQ test which are a bit more valid but taking one is entirely ego driven. That said, maybe the point should be updated to "the _perception_ of being right." Celebrity intellectuals love the idea of being seen as the intellectual authority, while not ever putting in the effort to actually be right. A couple examples are NDT and that "Adam Ruins Everything" guy. Both are so in love with the idea of having intellectual power that they'll offer their opinion on anything as total fact regardless of the topic. And eventually they get exposed. NDT lost a lot of credibility and has had his share of cringe moments like when he lectured the world on the existence of Santa Claus on his Twitter account like he thinks we're all dumb toddlers. Or that Adam guy going on Rogan and getting exposed as a common moron.
@@adswers6900 Pretty easy to be behind something decades after the outcome is already known. The question isn't what has Musk failed at: all companies and creative people have failures. Lots of them. The question is in what ways is he succeeding? Where is he showing vision and innovation? No one knows how successful anyone will be in the long run, but who is putting their money where their mouth is?
I'm still subbed, but don't watch his SpaceX vids. I sometimes still click on the random ones where he debunks silly inventions like the water bottle that fills itself or the solar roadways ones... anything that doesn't involve Elon he seems to do OK on still. That said I haven't seen any vids in at least a year.
@@alessandricedric1995 "but when it became political, i just left" what is this supposed to mean? Are you saying that you agree with nazism/suppressing peoples rights to free speech or are you just another boring russian bot?
@@beayn The problem is in his more current debunking videos 1/3rd is spent on the title subject and after that part's over he goes off in a tangent to diss Elon Musk for the remaining 20 minutes
Thunderfool has always been a pos. 10yrs ago he had a weird nonsensical beef with CrazyRussianHacker (Taras Kul). Thunderfool then created an alt account called, "CrazyRrussianHacker" (with 2 "r's") so that he could send a fake copyright strike on himself and then try to get Taras banned from yt for a false copyright claim. Luckily yt caught it right away and suspended Thunderfool.
Wow I don't remember this. He must've really gone off the rails by then if true, considering he was vehemently against false DMCA attacks when creationists used to use that tactic.
@@AlphaCrucis It wasn't long after Taras created that vid showing how to make a simple A/C type unit using liquid nitrogen. Thunderfool created a big stink out of it because someone else had made a similar vid and Thunderfool stuck his nose way too far into it. The other guy didn't have a problem with Taras' vid.
Good video but you're missing some big pieces of the puzzle. His downfall started in 2016 with the Brexit EU referendum when he outed himself as a far left socialist and used his channel to promote the European Union while shitting all over British patriots who simply wanted independence after decades of watching their country being damaged by mass immigration whilst being financially milked dry. Then shortly after that he came down with an acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and shit all over American patriots who had similar concerns as the British had in their referendum. Thunderf00t pumping out pro EU / anti Brexit and pro Clinton / anti Trump propaganda throughout the year. The Elon Derangement Syndrome followed all of that but he was already well into his downfall by that point.
Yeah he left the "anti-woke" politics behind a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that, people are allowed to change opinions, but prior to today the last I saw of him was getting mad at a UK political youtuber over brexit.
I'm right wing and I still believe brexit was a mistake, and in fact britain is in deep shit right now, while in europe the wind is starting to blow in a different direction. Leaving eu because you dont like the current government is stupid. Your aim should be to change who's in charge of eu, not leaving it. We still need a looong way to go, because EU leaderships sucks, but if we can get the right people in the right place the eu could do wonders.
The merits and drawbacks of brexit is a long and complicated mess, let's be honest. As someone from Australia I was happy to see the old country independent again, but the way the country has gone since is just sad. To be fair, the seeds of decline were sown a century ago but there's no fixing that now. The point is, though, that brexit as well as a couple other political events definitely changed thunderfoot's position overall and to be honest that's ok, hell my positions have changed, though in a different way, over the same period of time.
@@ccclll987 If you look at the structure of the EU, you recognize the idea of changing leadership as a fools errand. The problem of BREXIT was a number of new governments that were "deep state" who basically sabotaged their own nation. So now they stand naked, afraid, but not off the hook from, nor in the graces of, the EU. Stuck in a self-degrading malaise as they allow more foreigners into their country that despise them and wants to replace them. More people fought for ISIS from Britain than served in their armed forces.
"Look at these idiot Wright Brothers. The stupid thing barely gets off the ground. It's frankly absurd to suggest that humans, who have legs, forego their use in favor of some kind of poorly engineered flying contraption." -Thunderfoot's Great Grandfather, probably
honestly though, the rush to explore outerspace is highly autistic. I think a more high IQ investment would be something more within reach, like age reversal. if all billionaires threw money at biotech research, we likely would be immortal within the next 5 years. this would be good because it would mean that I can be a 300 year old man having intense passionate sex with 18 year old females that I can inject my seed into. this is the future science will bring us. space exploration is cringe and literally stupid.
Man, what a trip. Thunderf00t was a legend, I learned so much growing up watching his videos throughout highschool over a decade ago. Truly one of the greats of early YT science education. Oh, how I miss the good ol' days before the Elon fixation...
Unsurprising. Thunderfoot is an academic, and that basically guarantees that he is completely incapable of processing new information about any of the cathedral's commandments.
@@cofal79 Well Difference between the Races on Intelligence is proven by long term history. what was Africa 10,000 years before Europeans ever set foot on their soil? Tribesmen with the technology of the stone age. What was Africa in the 1400's when Europeans first set foot on their soil? Tribesmen with the technology of the stone age. At this same point in history, Europeans already invented Canon's, Firearms, the agricultural knowhow to grow food year round and even how to preserve food for nearly year long sea voyages, and the very ships capable of crossing the globe via the sea. How can anyone argue there is no difference between races? how can so many blatantly spit in the face of history and fact?
He's an egomaniac and suffers from main character syndrome (YT is the steam in that engine). THAT is his religion. I remember in one video he put down another scientist (who disagreed with him on some point) for being lower in citations rank than him. There's lots of examples like that. It's not normal even for incredibly successful scientists to act that way. With the Musk thing, it's all that resulting in jealousy. He believes that it should be *him* doing all that stuff. Also that 2010s internet atheist thing was the most h0m03rotic nonsense ever.
I remember man years ago Thunderfoot went on atrip across America to interview somebody and when he finally got there he botched the audio so it was basically impossible to hear what was being said. Instead of apologizing that he f'ed up, he started to complain that he went on this whole trip[ just to bring us this interview and we should be thankful that he did that for us. Ofcourse there were a metric ton of comments reminding him that it was his own idea and literally nobody asked him to do it. Thunderfoot has been debunked several times, he lies just as much as the people he accuses, but he too has a cult behind him who will beat down anybody who dares to show them that their emperor has no clothes on.
He was definitely wrong about Brexit when that was happening, and he was also wrong about Sargon. But other than that, what exactly would he have been wrong about? I think his science videos and even his videos debunking Elons overzealous promises are pretty decent.
@@multi-milliondollarmike5127 TF was wrong when he said reusable rockets would never work. TF was wrong when he said Starlink was unprofitable. TF was wrong when he said Tesla was unprofitable. TF is on track to being wrong about Musk being bankrupt in 3 years. TF is far, far from perfect when talking about anything outside of his Chemistry PhD. I just wish he would stick to his lane, because that's when he makes cool videos instead of cringe videos.
@@desolder75 A few days after I made this comment I discovered just how biased, and wrong he has been on a lot of other things. He's got so much pride and will double down on terrible positions, even when the facts are right in front of him. I had been considering resubbing to him, but I won't be doing that anymore.
@@desolder75 They never seem to want to stay in their lane. They get so high off the smell of their own farts that they think they're the intellectual authority on everything. NDT is another one like that. It gets to the point that nobody takes them seriously anymore.
To me, Thunderf00t lost the plot when he started on anti-brexit BS and it became painfully obvious that if what he was talking about fell more than a micrometer outside of his field of study then he had no clue about it. Par for the course with academics. I used to work IT for a university and dealt with professors and scientists every day. You'd be surprised how many of them wore velcro sneakers.
Highly educated people convince themselves that since they're smart in one discipline, then they are all-around smart... and that couldn't be further from the truth. You wouldn't believe some of the nonsense I've heard out of the mouths of people with post-secondary degrees. Doctors - MDs, PhDs, etc. - are just as gullible as anyone else (except in very small, hyper-specific areas) and almost all of them are either bigots, racists, sexists, elitists, or some combination of the four.
Same. I was a big fan. In fact I'd like to think he was pivotal in my growth as a secular young adult in terms of my political awareness, and of course my general ability to smell bullshit. Solar roadways, Water seer, and such like, those video series taught me to see beyond the immediate technical capabilities of a thing and consider the external factors involved and their implications. Sure, the machine can pull moisture from the air....but there is no moisture in the air where they actually intend to use it. Then I guess it was around the brexit time, things just started feeling less explained, there were fewer scale model demonstrations to prove his point. In particular when it came to brexit a lot of his arguments started becoming circular. TF is IMO one of the truly great atheist cultural leaders we lost over the last decade, right up there with people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson. You can see it in their eyes when they are talking about something they truly know and are excited about, and you can see the difference when they're talking out of their ass out of anger or know it's just something they have to say for whatever reason.
Brexit was not the problem, it's the UK government that is filled with the same globalists the EU is filled with. Im sure they are enjoying the many pakis and indians that's flooding the island instead of the millions of Eastern Europeans. Only difference is, the Eastern Europeans go there to work hard and make money.
I used to watch Thunderf00t a long time ago, then at some point he just got cringy and I stopped. Not given him a second thought until this video popped up in my feed. Kind of nostalgic.
I only remembered he existed when some other video crossed my feed an hour ago, then found this video and damn man this is just sad. I feel bad for the guy
Back in the GamerGate days, I was arguing with someone on Reddit (I was a kid okay!?) about Anita Sarkeesian and I wanted to cite something I'd seen in a Thunderfoot video - I went back and found it... and realized that he never actually made any substantive point about the people he was talking about, it was just edits of Anita saying something dumb with no context over and over and over again.
How do people like you breathe properly. "vaporware"? Some of the best selling cars in the world are "vaporware"? VTOL spaceships are "vaporware"? I think some of you guys have a shortlist of words you're obligated to use on a daily basis even when they don't make sense.
Wow, this video hits it perfectly. I like Thunderfoot, and he did make some really valid points on some of Elon's more spectacular claims. However, Elon is a visionary and arguably one of the most impactful humans to ever live. If only 10 pct of Elon's vision becomes reality then humanity is going to propel forward significantly. I'm rooting for Elon to succeed.
Like too many “scientists”, Thunderf00t’s big problem is he arbitrarily substitutes hearsay for evidence to suit his narrative. He often does have lots of clear evidence in his videos which is starkly contrasted by the crutch of computer simulations that he dubiously presents as equivalent to reality.
@@andrewlutes2048 Because he's explaining established scientific theories not making up new stuff? If you have an issue with established concepts like temperature being transferred by atomic particles smacking into each other or that atoms of gas will do their best to fill a vacuum you can go ahead and dispute them, but it's not Thunderfoot you're trying to prove wrong there.
@@plmokm33 That’s my point. Theories are not necessarily true. If it’s true, why not show the data that makes it true instead of a CGI model? It’s suspicious when scientists make assumptions instead of showing actual evidence.
Well ,maybe he is just skeptic that Musk's plan to go to Mars will work. So, he is waiting Musk to fail asap so we won't bother anymore. In fact technological we are behind to achieve that and Musk does not have it. Musk is trying being embolden by Space X success even with some childish ideas.
Yep, he's a fraud that makes better things than other companies and a big fraud for selling a lot of stuff that people want and a fraud for becoming richer because of those things he sells, and fraudulently makes very high tech devices, and a big fraud for making a lot of jobs for people, and a fraud for having many great companies, and fraudulently stops making things that don't pan out, and fraudulently says forward looking things that people shouldn't hold him to because past performance doesn't predict future outcomes. What a huge fraud he is! What big fraud for having a company with one of the best in EV sales and even overall car sales, and being one of the best private rocket companies that NASA gives contracts to, and a big fraud for making other really interesting things like AI and AI robots and self driving that improves every year and such. Fraud I say! Fraud! All of it a total fraud! With fraud sauce on top!
One can't say that he doesn't love recycling. Every video he makes in a series uses recycled material from previous ones. Sometimes you don't know if you've seen the video before or not
He doesn't take issue with recycling, it's that many of these "startups" try to badge themselves as "green" and try to obtain government subsidides as a means to make their business run.
@@chrimony that poster assumes "recycled material" means plastic and cardboard or such, and probably commented after reading only the first half of bardoomguy's post.
The militant atheists were right about militant atheism. But then they took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up in a Looney Tunes skit for SJWs. And for some reason decided they needed a new religion, after proving how bad it was to be religious. So that golden calf thing came full circle.
@@williambarnes5023 The heel-turn shows that most of them were only atheists because they hated Christianity, not because they had a genuine academic position.
The real problem with Thunderf00t isn't politics, Musk or any of these sub-categories - It's that he's become the personification of Clarke's 1st Law and is blatantly jealous of anyone following Clarke's 2nd. I spent a good deal of time following his videos until pattern-recognition set in and I realised that he spent most of his time trying to discourage any attempts to go beyond the established - Ridiculing the types of people that advance science and humanity. Thunderf00t has become the gatekeeper of the _status quo..._
I also loved Thunderf00t, but he first started to show his unwillingness to concede a false argument in a live stream in 2015. Then during the Brexit-saga. In 2016 he said Tesla model 3 would never come out, then it came out in 2017, so he moved the goal post to it would never be profitable, then earnings came out and it had close to 30% margins. What really got me to dump his channel was the hyperloop. While some of his points were engineering challenges, (I'm an engineer) he compared a glancing impact with rollers on "that skinny rail" in the loop to a Semi hitting a wall head on... This is the same dude who had video's talking about tank armor. At that point, I just assumed he was lying to click farm, so I old-yellered him.
As an engineer hyperloop was also what did it for me, but for different reasons. His comparisons to vaccum force to that huge NASA vaccum labs and his own little glass vaccum experiments to conclude the hyperloop simply cannot hold the vaccum was simply incorrect. I did the calcs myself and the numbers looked feasiable.
I distinctly recall Thunderf00t repeatedly describing a "blast wave" forming if a vactrain tunnel were ever to be punctured. Plenty of footage of large IRL vacuum chambers _slowly_ filling back up with air after some valve or other was opened. There _are_ very real challenges to building a vactrain, and Musk's "hyperloop" was bullshit meant to derail California HSR funding...and Thunderf00t talked about almost none of them.
Life's true meaning often lies in responsibility, not fleeting pleasures. Don't wait to start a family. Sacrifice now for lasting joy. Embrace responsibility, and it will shield you from despair in the years to come.
Same here. I became a fan during the days of GG. Then, when he started going off on Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) and Brexit, I lost respect for him. And when it became clear that he was suffering from MDS (Musk Derangement Syndrome), I unsubscribed. It's really sad, he can't see that he's become everything he used to despise.
I started watching him when I went into my "i'm an Atheist and religion is bullshit!" phase of life (that's also when I subbed and watched people like the amazing atheist and MrRepzion) granted, I don't really care that much anymore and the latter 2 literally fell of so hard it's hilarious. I liked how Thunderfoot actually debunked religion (again, anti-religion phase, i'm still not pro religion, but I just don't care that much anymore as long as it doesn't affect me personally) when he went into more science topics, I also liked that. I even liked it when he was roasting Elon and his projects, but then every other video became an "this is why Elon will fail" or "this is why
@@armandosillones2643 Nobody took EV's as serious. Nobody propulsively landed orbital rockets. Nobody offered high-broadband internet with a LEO satellite constellation. Nobody is building a fully reusable rocket to land on the moon and Mars.
@@yannisws Electric cars existed even before combustion, the problem is the battery and is still a problem he didn't improve it, just marketing, that's why a former battery manufacturer is the world leader today and not Tesla. Rockets are inverse pendulum control, already solved maaany decades ago. Starlink has no advantage over good satellite internet, except for ping but it's still too high for gaming. Reusable rockets or even living on mars is so extremely useless and a waste of resources idk where to start.
@@yannisws Electric cars existed even before combustion, the problem is the battery and is still a problem he didn't improve it, just marketing, that's why a former battery manufacturer is the world leader today and not Tesla.
I discovered Thuderfoot's channel the very day Starship 5 successfully landed. I couldn't fathom what kind of clown I was facing. Thanks for this useful explanation video.
I completely agree he has disgraceful lack of ethics and morality, I mean I don’t believe in religion but I would never put someone down due to their beliefs or their sexual orientation. That’s just unacceptable. But you showed nothing to prove that he is wrong about Musk. Whether you like it or not, he isn’t wrong. And all those videos about musk hold weight, now, since Elon is a major role in the modern political sphere. British person involved in American politics? Shows you just how influential American politics are to the world. Being world polícia means your actions have an effect. So unless you got the rigorous math to prove him wrong, imma hear what he has to say about Musk. Though I’ll do it with a sour face cause it’s unacceptable to be as awful as he is towards humanity.
Getting well over 200k views per video and forcing the russian bot armies to converge on his channel and any channel that mentions him in a pathetic attempt to discredit anything he says is "irrelevant"? You have no idea what "irrelevant" means.
@@DiahRhiaJones Yes, he is irrelevant. 200k views is NOTHING compared to the tens to hundreds of billions of views, a day. You tmust not understand what irrelevant means.
He literally said he "doesn't follow Starship" in his recent stream. Well then maybe he should stop streaming it and talking like he's an expert on it.
Genius my ass Thunderfool has never ONCE been right even go up against the Lowests apple the flatearthers he FAILED to debunk the flat earth like WTF how is he THAT INCOMPETENT?
@@snintendog Flat ethers have a more deluded, and extream religious take then Isis. Only a genius would even think that it is even possible to convert them away from flat earth...unstable genius unstable attempt..
@@snintendog You do realize that he discovered the reason why Natrium reacts explosively in water, right? As in, the actual, almost full explanation. Now, is he a genius because of that? Debatable and ultimately irrelevant, but you're entirely missing what TF actually put on the table if all you focus on are his online spats.
@@snintendog "Coulomb explosion during the early stages of the reaction of alkali metals with water" - That is the title of the study he did on the topic. Since TH-cam doesn't like people linking actual scientific studies.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Religion isn't dying big guy. What's dying is secular culture and values, since they're the people who are not breeding, and allowing themselves to be replaced
@@Bellicosy Lost his marbles and claimed that microchips could be injected together with vaccines, deletes all comments that go against that claim. He also went against Foucault's pendulum in one of his videos and deletes all mentions of that. I left then and never turned back. Learned to avoid certain types of pseudonyms and channel names like Sci Man or Physics Girl. They always stand for deranged personality types.
He taught me just how valuable thermodynamics is and really helped me as a scientist to look towards things that don't energetically make sense and sense the bs. He is allowed to critic musk if he wants but he hyper fixated on it, went off the rails and forgot his integrity for his own hatred or prehaps internal affairs. His work on sodium potassium alloys and 3d visualisation of gases was peak entertainment and information. I hope he can find clarity and peace in his heart.
It sounds like the seismic shift in his life was being gobsmacked by mortality when his Dad died. All that grief, unsettling his life- the excess emotional & mental energy had to go somewhere. At such times, the absence of God or faith can hit all the harder.
God wouldn't do you very much better. Belief in God doesn't stop people from getting hurt, people who believe in God get hurt all the time. A belief in God just postpones the mental energy that you could be using for other things in the belief of something that has no effect on your life besides what you purposely shove into it.
Brexit may not have been a success, and even if it was run by Torries who weren't retards and corrupt it might still have failed, but UK may have had problems regardless.
@@stevenwilson5556 From what I understand, Brexit was sabotaged by the same politicians who were supporting it originally. But that is only conjecture since that is what I heard from those who live in the UK.
@@herrschaftg35 Boris Johnson was anti-Brexit when the referendum was announced. He was on the radio the very next day saying it was "bonkers". He was then put in charge of the "official" Leave campaign (as opposed to, you know, Nigel Farage, "Mr Brexit", and leader of UKIP, the main party calling for Brexit). While Boris had been elected Mayor of London previously, and had a measure of popularity as a comedy character (having also repeatedly guest-hosted a comedy "quiz" show about current events - they even put out an extended, hour-long cut of him hosting the half-hour show!), he was quite clearly put in charge of the Leave campaign to sabotage it. Once the vote came in, where the media all run to for a speech? The official Leave leader? Nah, they all went to Nigel Farage.
Not sure about your armchair psychology theory at the end here, but the rest of the video is on point. "Elon derangement syndrome" is a very accurate description of what's happened. Very sad to see.
@@SueMyChin Well much of TF's criticism is opinion so there is no right or wrong answer per se. He is right about some of his points, and factually wrong about others
@@kingcosworth2643 Cite factually wrong points then. That is where criticism should be, not blatant hypocrisy like this video presents.. "Thunderfoot doesn't like Musk? Well, I don't like Thunderfoot!" What even is this video...
There's also the fact that Elon is neither an engineer nor a scientist. He’s also not a self-made billionaire, considering that he was born into a wealthy family. I’m sure that gets under Thunderf00t's skin.
Thunderf00t is just chasing the algorithm. He has figured out what a lot of content creators has figured out. The fact is if you make controversial videos, you get the crowd that agrees with you to watch for confirmation bias and you get the crowd that adamantly disagree with you to watch. It creates a cycle of easy to create react content.
@@Astorath_the_Grim I guess that would depend on what you consider stagnating to be. He's gained 50K subscribers this year. It was 60 up until a month ago in which he lost 10K but I think that's a purge of dead accounts. A lot of channels lost subscribers in november. I lost a few hundred. I believe it was a purge. His video views are mostly stable. He's averaging about 1.3 million a week. With peaks of about 2 million and dips of 700K. But it's random. Over the year it slightly trended down. But I think that's true for most channels. Unfortunately I can see more than a year back on social blade. However, I have scrolled through several years of videos and while the number of views fluctuate, they are doing about the same now as they were 2 years ago and better than they were 3 years ago. I guess staying about the same falls into stagnation. But sometimes when the creative juices stop flowing, that's when chasing the algorithm helps keep them going.
Yep, he's got one of the oldest and most established channels on YT but has seen next to no growth in decades once he hit a wall and became irrelevant. Now he just watches the stats to see what preforms well and then panders to that niche, it's no longer about making reason criticism, it's about finding ever more petty things to pick on, and when he's wrong about them, simply moving on.
@@Astorath_the_Grim No clue how much money he actually makes (because fuck transparency, righ?), but he has 2400 members of patreon. Pretty sure that money in combination with his researcher position and ad revenue helps him lead a cozy life, especially considering he probably makes the same three videos over and over again.
Thunderfoot always screamed Enlightened Atheist™️ to me. He's someone who is overtly blind to several things and is unwilling to self-improve. As with everyone who lacks enough self-awareness, Thunderfoot self-destructed.
I stopped watching because he has a habit of repeating the same points, over and over in a video, with the same memes like the forehead slapping guy or facepalm star trek guy. His videos became repetitive and predictable.
He had legit complaints about some of Musk's early projects and it seems that because he was successful despite not having Thunderfoot's blessing really got to him.
He’s kinda like this one guy I met online . He went off on me in some Facebook comments, once and just called me all kinds of names I forgot what the discussion was about. My comment was pretty neutral. Anyways.. Turns out every other post or yelp or internet review he made attached to his email was complaining about telemarketers calling to talk to his dead “wonderful wife”. Years worth of posts and that was the only topic. 😢 “My wife is dead and you stupid mfs won’t stop calling god dammit”
Says the 4k sub alt-right hater musk ballsucker cuck. What have you acomplanished? Nothing. Pathetic video.
4.5k*
He's got 186k more view than you, chud
Alt-right literally means someone on the far right. If you like the alt-right that means you are part of it. Most normal people don't like anyone that's too far left or right because they are normally just being tools of the current powerful families fighting for power. It means you are likely totally bias and eat up all the lies told on the news networks.
Malding.
Even I can spell accomplished ffs mate 😂😂😂
And he seems to be doing perfectly fine, this video needed doing.
I still think Thunderf00t is right about Musk. I think he's been focusing on him because out of eveyrthing he's debunked, Elon keeps getting more and more wealthy, more and more power. All the other things were like, a single kickstarter that raised like $100,000 and then failed. Elon and his company have been getting paid BILLIONS of tax dollars over the years, have been involved in some not always suuuuuper legal activities (Elon himself worked in the US as an illegal alien in the 90s lmao), and now he's cozying up with Trump to get even MORE influence.
So to me, it makes sense that that kind of activity would cause him to focus on him more than anything before. Trump's literally making him the head of a redundant (the GAO already exists) government agency to unironically reduce inefficiency in the government, even though he doesn't exactly have a great track record with handling US tax dollars efficiently.
exactly Molotof doesn't get it how much power Elon holds while acting like buthurt 10 year old. This is/will be one of the greatest destrucion of planetary wealth of all time :D. After everyone will know those frauds Elon could be compared to a earthquake/hurricane natural catastrophe :P
Lets' sayThunderf00t is not wrong about Musk
Musk like Trump is a con artist.
Watch The Shock Doctrine
I 100 % agree that Musk is Turd but like the Orange one they do not hear you. The video supports Thunderfoot and credits his fine work, T should go back to his base and Bust the balls of those other sh1ts that Grift and control our lives.
I have great respect for T but this Musk trolling is taking T away from using his forensic skill to fight a more just cause, I also miss his very interesting scientific content. Repecfully.
The GAO LMAO😂😂😂 good one. I worked with them in DC. Absolutely hilarious you think they do anything. Very cute.
His channel really hasn’t changed that much he’s still bashing hack science and scams.
But he’s attacking a scammer this guy worships that’s the difference now
Guy fell off my radar years ago. Last time he was relevant to me was "SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS".
accurate
I often recheck his claims. He first rub me wrong on a cold fusion video. In essence he claim that if the footage he show of someone simulating one on a small scale that the radiation dose will be quite damaging and fatal. It take quite a digging and calculating and he just (even thou he is a specialist) forget that neutron radiation is blocked by water and plastic. And all models were submerge in water and in plastic container. Not mentioning he forget a square law. After that as his debunk videos stop so is me watching him.
He made a butthurt anti Jordan Peterson video , where he actually said . "JP doesn't need all those subs/donations". He's the more rightious one who deserves the money to fund all his expensive equipment he needs for his experiments and videos. It was pure entitlement, and was devoid of any of the logic he's supposed to uphold
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the people and media that get the most hate are the ones that USED to be good. We see something good get destroyed by idiocy and it angers us way more than something just being awful from the start.
Same here. THat was his peak. After that Musk Rant Addiction started, I was done with him. All he posted was Copium and nothing else.
This is pure Cope, doesn't matter how much you hate it he's totally right about Elon even if he's a little obsessed
tf00t been alogging bad actors on the internet since before it was cool, like venomfangx
@bad_juju I've always felt somewhat perturbed by Elon, some things just seemed to good to be true; I also received mild sometimes moderate backlash for my skepticism, so Thunderf00t videos fill me with immense vindication, well his videos and the people who are with me now who weren't prior to Elon going on the worlds largest Billionaire humiliation ritual
Yes, he is right, but the key word there is "obsessed." I love watching his science stuff. As soon as I hear Elon, though, I realize it's going to be the same video as his previous and don't really care to hear it.
@@gigemruss
Was Phil right about Musk in the past regarding the Hyperloop, the Boring company, basically every Tesla launch. The answer is yes...
@yikwanwong8267 did I imply he wasn't right? All I'm saying is that TF had a much more interesting channel before it became 95% about a single con man.
The strangest part is that he just needed to takedown a flight company and couldn't stop hyperfixating on Elon when Boeing was *right there*
That's an amazingly good point.
Some people just feel compelled to hop the fence if its too crowded, just to be a nuisance
Boeing wacks their detractors from time to time.
Boeing isn't really doing that badly, and many aircraft companies have a long history of producing flawed aircraft. People who are far more knowledgeable on the subject had also weighed in on the matter, extensively.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Yeah, Boeing isn't doing that bad, which is why their sales are in the gutter and Airbus is stealing their business.
Actually, I very much appreciate Thunderfoot exposing Musk's idiocy and corruption.. In fact, I love him for it.
Absolutely
Nobody cares, Becky
I used to watch Thunderf00t. Ever since Brexit and when Trump was elected in 2016, that forever broke this man. I followed him for science, not politics.
His political takes always surprised me. The "anti-woke", "anti-sjw", "anti-muslim" guy is now talking about social acceptability, falling in line and how brexit is bad. If he wasnt so focused on musk rn, I have no doubt hed turn his attention to the east, and start supporting gaza. Dude has no principles.
@@Handles_AreStupidIt was quite obvious he would be Remain - he is a well educated, working age person, living inside the EU - most of these people were remain
@@gareth6326 Thats because the well educated have always loved the idea of social planning, and they are far more willing to pay higher taxes to do so. Thankfully, these types are out numbered by sane people that realise that planning a society around humans like an obstacle instead of planning it based on human nature is a terrible idea that will never work.
@@Handles_AreStupid I can't tell if you are trying to be sarcastic or not about educated people wanting to pay more tax?? But you talking about a nonexistent EU tax is just confusing.
(My post wasn't arguing for/against Brexit - this is not my first day on YT, there is no point trying to change people's minds about that)
@@gareth6326 The "nonexistent EU tax" is paid at the state level, and the uk was a net contributor to the EU, meaning that we paid more in than we got out in benefits like trade agreements, reduced tarifs etc. This absolutely contributes how much you end up paying in taxes, not that the uk gov needs an excuse to endlessly raise them. looking forward to labour doubtlessly raising taxes by another 2%, only for the tories to then go and raise it by 3% in their next term...
The educated people wanting to pay more taxes line is a dig at "intellectual marxism", which is VERY common in uni educated people. Thats where the "social planning" jabs come in, too.
The thing is he is right. Even Smarter Every Day admitted that the Artemis program for example, with its plan of using several starships is an engineering malpractice.
>British
>Obsessed with American politics
Many such cases
It drives me nuts seeing Brits on American talk shows tut-tutting to citizens.
Almost as bad as Israelis rulling the US.
Just give them a break...
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I think it's funny when Brits yammer on and on, trying to lecture Americans about anything. As if we didn't fight and win an entire war just so we could tell them to f*ck off.
I am a Dutch anarchist and Obsessed with American and to a smaller extent British politics. Because voting in my country doesn't bring real change. And having the right US president does. Culturally, the west copies each other. Woke was a France invention, made toxic in the US, and blew over the *Atlantic to make it relatively widespread, albeit slightly less toxic here too. US foreign intervention impacted our lives greatly. The US economy impacts my life greatly. And I am still salty the Yankees re-elected Bush and Obama.
@@Rem_NL PRO TIP: Voting doesn't matter (America isn't different). There is no difference between being a colony of Israel under Kamala or Trump :^)
I have a theory as well. Thunderfoot has never escaped the institutional bubble. It chaps his ass that the private sector is capable of crushing the public sector in applied science.
This. The academic brain hates people who do real things.
This is the reason why he was against Brexit. He saw the UK leaving the EU as a threat to his public funding. This happened in 2016 combined with Trump becoming president. Seems to me like the combo really kicked his pro-establishment stance into overdrive.
This is the right answer.
I remember him being worried about grant money, if Brexit occurred. He had, or thought he had, a financial interest in remaining.
He was always a socialist. I remember that he hated on one conservative TH-cam channel "HowTheWorldWorks" about mostly free-market related issues.
He lost it when the UK voted for Brexit..
Exactly what I came to the comment section to say.
Can't blame him tbh. One of the biggest mistakes made by the UK in modern history.
@@BrainBurnStudios exactly. and he's right about Musk as well. plenty to criticise Phil about but not these
@@BrainBurnStudios No, it wasn't. Nothing wrong with leaving a self-electing tyrannical government that imposes their will on other countries. Nothing wrong with leaving a corrupt institiution where the MEPs don't even know what the hell they're voting for.
The idea of leaving was good. Now the UK needs a competent government that will implement it properly, as opposed to the immature children of the previous and the current administration.
@@MrSardoc1 Exactly, the subsequent governments after brexit have done everything possible to make it fail so we would go back to the EU. If we actually used the new powers we had to imrpove our country, the UK would be flying compared to those stuck in the EU's protectionist zone.
Thunderfoot may get a bit repetitive at times, but he has a good track record of getting it right when it comes to predictions regarding what Elon's companies actually produce. As an example, no one can say the Las Vegas Loop bears any relationship to the initial proposal of a loop system of tunnels that would allow cars to be autonomously transported at 150mph.
@Emiliocab47
I agree Thunderf00t was right about the HyperLoop.
So that's one Musk prediction.
Are there any other Musk predictions by Thunderf00t that would make it a "good track record"?
@dantealighieri799 He was also correct about his solar roof tiles and the Tesla Roadster.
I'm pretty sure he will be right about Starship. I don't think that Starship will be a rapidly reusable rocket system that will take us to Mars or even the moon.
@@dantealighieri799 the tesla semi truck
who cares? Most new projects/startups fail because they would already have been done if it was different.
@@Emiliocab47 TF was most wrong when it came to SpaceX compared to the others, so I would not count on the Starship predictions being right outside of E2E.
That Roadster is apparently still in dev btw, so it might just be very late rather than dead and technically shouldn't be given yet. The roof tiles do exist but in limited capacity.
So he got Hyperloop. The Loop might still be too early to call but he's likely to get that one. Outside of that you have to pick specific Musk claims rather than the whole topic for TF to be right.
Sargon and Trump broke this man, and he never got over it--I speak as a former fan.
those who know, know.
Sargon lmao. I remember waiting for "This Week In Stupid" all the time. What a deep cut
@@giantidiot31
good ol' times, man. 🎵but the times they are a-changin'!🎵
@@giantidiot31 Yeah shame he stopped doing that, I liked the salty commentary on current events.
He started going weird with Brexit
i unsubscribed to Thunderc0pe after he started to only talk about Musk
I went and looked situation a few weeks / month ago and around 10 out of 15 of his newest videos in the video page were related to Musk. I watched his takes occasionally before, but stopped few years ago because content or his takes were not very interesting anymore. Seems he has dug even deeper.
snap
That and during the pandemic he was shilling hard for the mainstream narrative
But why were you subscribed in the first place though?
I left after he wouldnt stop doing the same video on Anita Sarkeesian over and over. He is a stalker with a massive ego
His morning coffee rapidly became a morning beer when starship wasn't failing
Buut - it is so far failing? Badly?
3 years late and double the price on their part in artemis - with no end in sight, actually delivering the contract service still far out of reach.
Still no orbital elevation reached after 5 test flights.
Mass as well as carrying capacity corrected down several times.
Rapid reusability as far away as it ever was (Falcon 9 as a much simpler system still needs at least 30 days turnaround, usually much longer, actual economic pricing juust expensive as 60s soviet single use tech NASA bought from russia since the shuttle program ended).
It might still turn out, and interesting work has been done - but so far the contractual promises are years late ond not even visible on the horizon. Usually that is called a project failure.
@FischerNilsA SpaceX is routinely launching satellites into orbit and is the only private company to ever successfully launch humans into orbit in human history.
They are also using their self landing falcon 9s for their Starlink launches.
I don't care about Elon's made up time frames. The company is actively making progress where no one else has ever.
@@FischerNilsA Yes Elon Musk is a little bit "optimistic" in his time tables, but the progress is undeniable, especially in the last year. I think that we will not get below the 10 days turnaround. Nevertheless this will be sufficient for a moonbase and its resupply. Mars maybe a bit of a stretch without nuclear engines or nuclear reactor and ion drives.
@@FischerNilsA succeeding at a slow and steady pace is not failing, nor is progressing at a slow and steady pace in cases where the goal hasn't yet been achieved. The trend thus far regardless of pace has been achievement or at very least innovation.
It's like calling a guy poor because "Buuuuuuuuut it took him 30 YEARS to afford the 3 story 9 bedroom mansion with a 4 car garage that he now owns!"
@FischerNilsA Hasn't SpaceX become the most used company for trips to the ISS? They very much have proven themselves, optimism in anything regarding space exploration should be celebrated
Only a minute in, but saying "on mars two years ago" is "slightly behind schedule" is pretty absurd
I miss the old Thuderf00t. His explanations were so educational. It is just really sad to see what has happened.
same here
he is going the genius to madness route
I miss the time ge wasn't shitting on cult i'm in ...
@@TheMastertbc
Yeah. It's not uncommon.
I agree.
Imagine hating someone with every fiber of your being... and they do not know who you even are.
"For me... it was a tuesday"
@@Liquid_Mikeyou beat me to it
That is my engineering manager. The man hates Elon, for made-up reasons. He might have "smart guy syndrome" since he's quite smart. But the 15-minute lunch-hour rant after most of us talk about how great the starship launch was is insane. We have to pretend he's not crazy, try to forget what he said, and eat the rest of our lunch in silence until he leaves is tiresome.
@@Liquid_Mike haha, exactly. I love that movie.
@@thdjjfsfh I had one Physics Professor that was the same way. He kept comparing Elon to Thomas Edison. Stating that they were both unintelligent people that got to where they were on luck... Have to be really lucky then. But he was in the minority. Had a few Professors from NASA that loved Space X.
You missed one critical point of his recent departure from reality, last year he made himself a geostrategic expert, and tried to chime in on predictions regarding the Ukraine war, all of which were fantasies from Putin being deposed to the war ending in a Russian defeat within months.
No facts just happy optimism.
Bro that false reality is still mainstream media reality in europe
I still remember a lot of people talking about how Ukraine was going to oust Russia in under 3 months. We're coming up on almost 2 years with no end in sight.
@@Green_Tea_Coffee They are pretty much falling back on all of the frontlines, in some places they are doing a bit better, like in Kursk, but only because there's a bunch of battle hardened veterans fighting there with the best stuff available. It's only a matter of time.
Even the MAGA Briths are completely brainwashend on Ukrainan war. You can tell the Agnglo Imperialists consider an united Europe the thing that would make them irrelevant and so, it must be avoided at all costs.
I mean I don't like him much anymore but we are allowed other opinions unrelated to our field of expertise.
I just jumped on the Thunderfoot train. This guy is right on everything every time
I bought Tesla stock years ago. It keeps going up. 😊😊😊
Fun Fact he's released 4 videos since this video's release, 3 have Elon Musk in the thumbnail
Just a trashy TH-camr following trending topics at this point
I'm surprised it's not all 4 of them to be honest
Oh my, that is bad.
out of his like last 7 videos like 5 or more are Elon
@@flamekiller3338 I wonder at what point it could be considered actual harassment, the same person making the same video about the same person as much he has. I mean it's definitely not sane
It's fine for him to criticise Musk and his ventures, but i hate the way he seems to genuinely hope for Musk to fail. Thunderf00t would rather see SpaceX fail than successfully put a man on Mars.
It's so insanely spiteful.
Of course he would. Musk is a liar and a conman. The video author seems to sort of roundabout support Musk by implying most Musk haters only hate him because he's more successful than them, which is fucking stupid lol. Thunderf00t is a bit overly obsessed with Musk (I guess it's sort of his job, as a TH-camr), and I am NO Thunderf00t supporter (I haven't been for a very long time, since before his pre-gamer gate obsession I always found him obnoxious with his constant complaining about religion), but if there's ANYTHING about Thunderf00t that is worth giving a pass, it's his criticism of Elon Musk. Everyone in the comments is trying to roast Thunderf00t as "he hates musk but musk doesnt even know who he is!", which is a naive and childish take. Musk is a public person and a con artist. Why should him knowing who I am stop or limit me from speaking out against him? Don't be so dense lol.
I kind of understand where Thunderfoot has gone. I have long realized Musk is a fraud and used car sales man for a long time but once you come to realize this you can just accept it and move on or let it take over you.
If he had gripes from the perspective of an American I could get it I think.
Personally, I really resent that Musk, a government contractor, will be given a position IN GOVERNMENT to regulate the government's spending - including to branches of government that are the ones REGULATING HIS COMPANIES, much less the ones FUNDING them.
Trump had already said that Elon would have begged him if he said to, so I don't see how Elon being in charge of spending ISN'T a conflict of interest.
I really just wish that SpaceX existed without him as a figurehead, because they do absolutely do cool things, but it's just turned into a chest beating competition now, and his impossible claims get them hyped and then dunked for no reason.
Like, claiming we can just colonize and teraform mars in a couple decades or whatever (claiming we'd already be landed there without having even left low earth orbit yet), etc.
SpaceX is so cool, but the claims just suck, and the conflict of interest is annoying. - and I'd be saying the same thing if the Boeing CEO was appointed, or Lockheed, or ratheon, etc.
Yes, he wants Musk to fail. I understand why. Thunderf00t, with some justification, considers Musk a liar and a grifter. I agree with him on this. Where we differ is Musk has become Thunderf00t's obsession.
Not sure how Musk became a grifter but go on. You could say the exact same about Thunderf00t
Thunderf00t falls into the same category as The Amazing Atheist.
Banana for scale
Oh God that brings back memories in fact thunderfoot is how I found Sargon which led me to razor Fest which led me to Styx hexenhammer which led me to Amazing Atheist is how I found Daniel sulzbach and then I found the skeptic Community like armored skeptic which also died off which also led to shoe on head various other Rising Stars like Brandon herrera's videos and other critics
Remember that time thunderf00t threatened to sue some guy for photoshopping him into gay porn? Many lulz were had
In what sense?
@@Christobanistan This was back in 2010 - some guy photoshopped him into gay porn and he threatened to pursue legal action. It's still on thunderf00t's channel - search up "Crossing the Line"
Thunderfoot is one of the few voices of reason and critical thinking.
Losing a Brexit debate to Carl Benjamin sent Thunderfoot off the deep end. He got so salty, that he never recovered.
What I wouldn't give to see that debate again, but with current day Carl and current day Philip... I think Carl won pretty handily last time, I think he would DESTROY him as he is now.
Sargon has matured and evolved; TF has regressed and devolved.
Learning to take an L is important.
Lost a debate? How does the country feel?
@@Hirnlego999 We don't want to return to the failing EU.
He spent so much attention fighting established religions that he failed to notice his precious Academia became one.
Ironic.
People in academia fail to understand religion. It's not the belief in God or gods, it's simply a different name for culture. If your culture defines you more than you define it, you're religious.
All the same problems with none of solution
palpatine: ironic
He also got fat in the process. A sign of his intellectual laziness increasing.
pretty sure Thunderfoot caught EDS/TDS and became deranged
Started with brexit
@@napoleonfeanor It was all downhill when he had a debate with Sargon of Akkad/Carl Benjamin. This time was the fall of all the 'great debate' content creators. They of course had the science and good arguments, but when it came to politics, almost all of them fell into the exact same fallacy traps and argument styles as the people they taught used. None of them were paying any attention the the orthodoxy and venomous mind virus disease of woke identity politics fueled by neo-marxism under the guise of Freethinking Atheism/Agnosticism. Hitchens warned them about it but they didn't pay attention to him, just sucked up to him.
He cant be much good at science if he needs to be a click bait TH-camr for a living. Politics certainly arent his thing
@@stephenw2992 He was quite good and adept at explaining scientific principles etc. Solar roadways was his last recent good debunk until he went super obsessive. It wasn't like debunking Nephillim free.
He is a chemistry Scientist by trade though. Very intelligent, just doesn't take criticism well in the long run.
@@SmugLee-r6y I didnt see his early stuff, but his later science wasnt that good in my opinion. He didnt explain it that well, but better than nothing I guess. His main content is made to massage his bloated ego doing click bait with endlessly recycled clips from previous videos. Just another formerly good TH-camr that ended up destroying themselves.
Who else is here the day Starship Flight 7 blew up?
He flew off the same cliff as Sam Harris
harris was never smart or worth a listen. the only reason he became famous is because he's a jew and he was allowed to say things 20 years ago that would get anyone else banned or at least labeled a brand risk.
lolwut Sam Harris is fine, just listened to him and even though I disagree with him on many things, he doesn't have any kind of derangement syndrome. Very level headed and reasonable guy.
Sam Harris is the guy who fricking wished more kids died of [The coof] so that [The coof] would be taken more seriously.
@@giovannifoulmouth7205Harris very much suffers from TDS…
@@bitharne nah, he brings valid criticisms. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking anyone who criticizes Trump has TDS bc of how many valid criticisms there are against Trump.
Started watching Thunderf00t in 2008 and when recently watching his channel i couldn't believe what he devolved into.
He's developed a case of serious negative wishful thinking.
He was one of the first people I subscribed to back in 2006.
He was always a liberal ….. but now suffers from acute TDS….. Thunderfoot Derangement Syndrome.
I used to adore him. What a drop off
This "mental decay" and "devolved" hyperbolie is kinda silly. Sure, he's obsessed with pointing out the failures of hyperloop, robotaxi, boring, colonizing Mars, etc. lately but he's bound to move on to something else soon. For a while, he was all about making fun of feminists, remember that?
Thunderf00t's ego is his downfall. He thinks he knows better than not just the 13,000 SpaceX employees, but also NASA leadership that chose Starship to land on the Moon again.
if he got to decide, we would have no ingenuity
Well, he is right about SpaceX failing with the roadmap, and he is right about the progress being overhyped in context of wanting to bring people safely to the Moon and Mars with Starship, and also reusing the rocket system. He is also right about Musks systematic, extremely exaggerated claims and straight lies. He is also right about the company being kept alive by tax money, and he is right about SpaceX ignoring environmental rules. And he is right about a bunch of other objective things regarding this project.
Hard to deny any of those, no matter what NASA and SpaceX employees say.
....... and just how is that aim of landing on the moon going for Musk?
Musk - 'Let me be clear, we can do this NOW!!' ;
Solar Roof Tiles - No.
Robotaxi - No.
Semi Truck - No.
Self Driving Car - No.
Hyperloop - No.
Land on the Moon - No.
Land on Mars - No.
....... and on and on and on ad infinitum.
Crash Twitter and Plummet it's Stock Value - Yes.
Flamethrower - Yes.
Bang Johnny Depps wife - Yes.
Have kids to half a dozen different women - Yes.
@@bleekcer none of those things matter
@@mastervaderm16 Lol, they do matter. Elon is incompetent when it comes to his leadership role and Space X is wasting more money than it's worth, when compared to Nasa. It really is only being kept alive by tax payer money at this point and If it weren't for all the government subsidies, it would have failed by now. These are valid points. Saying they don't matter is missing the forest for the trees.
Should rather be "The Mental Decay of Elon Musk"
The Brexit debate with Sargon is actually what started to turn me right wing. I went into that livestream having no idea who Carl was and just being a Thunderf00t fan. It was just hours of cope and his primary argument was how much money scientists get from the EU. Bribery is not an argument.
Especially when the overwhelming majority of modern "science" is: You want this grant? Here's the subject, and here's the results I WANT."
There's always someone willing to get the results the money needs, not the Truth.
Science only argues by bribery LOL
My. God.
@Pushin_Buttons Yep, I voted remain. He has a habit of making arguments that are hard to disagree with. Doesn't help that the progressive made that trivial for him to do at almost every turn. The Brett Kavanaugh debacle is where I turned full MAGA.
Welcome aboard.
When I first saw his videos, something felt off, but the Christians he mocked were ridiculous, so I overlooked it, then years later I realised what it was; It was exactly like watching a nerdy bully pick on a stupid kid for being stupid. thunderf00t has always been a bully. he doesn't actually care about science or the facts or debate, he just uses them to publicly humiliate people, the moment he is held to the standards he demands of others, he folds and doubles down to the very same illogical strategies and emotional defences they use.
It is funny that people never seem to pick up on that shit. The nerds who were bullied hate the working class because in the back of their minds they see the guys who gave them shit in high school.
Picking on the stupid kid for being stupid?
The stupid kid was in a position of influencing policy and made loads of stupid policy changes.
@@dallysinghson5569 I found another stupid kid. This one can't read, guys.
Calling them stupid kids
When TF is a complete buffon himself
There is nothing wrong for taking people to task on their ideas. I would not call that kind of thing being a "bully". You are, however, completely correct about him collapsing into an embarrassing mess the moment he is held to the standards he holds others to, the moment he is on the receiving end of a logical takedown.
Thunderfoot used to be amusing while he was bashing hack science and scams. Aaaand then he attempted to branch out into a field he knows nothing in, everything except chemistry and astronomy.
It's the classic example of someone with some degree of competence in specific areas going way outside those areas and looking stupid as a result. Best comparison I cam make is seeing people whose bread and butter is lgbt politics delving into geopolitics and coming up with some of the worst takes imaginable.
Exactly. My "breaking point" was his videos about the huge Beirut explosion in 2020. It was obvious even to a non-professionally educated dude like me that he had no clue what he was talking about, yet he was constantly trying to debuke the takes of experts on the topic. I could never take him serious after that.
@@directrulefromgamerchair3947 Kinda like that Niel Degrass or whatever his name is, loves to stick his foot in his mouth and show the world he's an actual idiot.
It was crazy to see his spiral. I used to love him for commentary and BUSTED series. Then it seems the BUSTED Series turned into some kind of stalker series about how "the man I hate the most in the world is wrong about everything, and this is why" lol... Man, there have been so many people I used to watch on youtube that just went nuts. It's depressing.
@@directrulefromgamerchair3947 Funny, because that is what Musk is doing.
Sup bro, we just looked at Elon Musk cheating in POE2. Thunderfoot vindicated 100%
The irony of Phillip Thunderf00t Mason hating on Musk while paying Musk to use his X to argue about him is over 9000
He wants sempai to notice him.
He said that someone gifted him the blue checkmark, he didnt actually pay for it.
@@SpecialEDy As if he could ever admit paying it himself.
@olisk-jy9rz well, like the video said, he usually oddly honest and straight shooting. But oh, how the mighty have fallen.
@@SpecialEDy 😂😂😂 peak excuse
Used to love thunderf00t until I read the full writeup about Stefan Molyneux's wife and realised Thunderf00t had purposefully lied to discredit Molyneux, and I realised he wasn't in it for truth like he said he was.
He is very dishonest in how he selectively edits videos and always has been. He likes to bully people too, I tried to mediate in a dispute of another TH-camr and him, but it proved impossible due to his vast ego and spite. He quite likes life ruination, doxing - when it isnt him on the end of it, even if it isnt necessary to go that far. He has previously even created fake accounts to copyright strike his own channel to pursue a vendetta, though he did get caught out on this idea - CrazyRussianHacker and adding an extra 'r' saga.
@@tashatsu_vachel4477 Yep, he always did that, but ppl don't care when the target is creationists or Anita Sarkeesian or kickstarter projects.
ok
I miss Stefan Molyneux
Stefan Molyneux didn’t help himself either by talking too much at times. That’s not on Thunderfoot alone.
Good video, I also remember watching Thunderf00t long long ago. Elon Derangement Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome has broken millions of people throughout 2016-2024. I don't know if these people can mentally recover, I've not personally seen 'the worst offenders' ever recover, only the Light-offenders of having the Derangement Syndrome.
He also went deranged over Brexit too, and couldn't concede being wrong about that.
Dude it's just grifting all of TH-cam is just grifting 😂
Anna Kasperian recovered.
@@yorkshiremgtow1773 b-b-but the EU funds research!!! the UK can never survive without it!!
I think they can all recover with enough time. Even Cenk Uygur is turning pro-Trump/pro-Elon now.
To be fair Thunderf00t saw Elon for the dishonest weirdo he is a lot sooner. About 5 years ago not many people would have guessed that Elon would support Trump and become as crazy as he is. Thunderf00t saw it though. He noticed the promises he broke. He noticed that he continues to make such promises even though he had the experience that he past promises failed (which suggest deceit rather then innocent optimism). I wouldn't be surprised if Elon will end up facing legal challanges due to his unethical behavior.
But i completely agree with you that it's too much Elon related stuff. It looks like unhealthy obsession and it got to the point that whenever i see a new video of Thunderf00t suggested to me i pray/hope that it won't be about Elon again.
I liked his channel for the science related stuff and the debunking of science related stuff.
You're absolutely right. He's tilting. I know a lot of guys like him. The are very intelligent and it is INCONCEIVABLE to them that their emotions have gotten the best of them. It's a blind spot. We are all effected by it.
I had the same thought, i wonder where this huge amount emotion came from that took over his intelligence? maybe he lacks in self awareness.
But I wonder, did he fail the game of life so bad that he is so incredibly badly that he is just jealous and bitter of other people's success that he actively tries to take them down with him?
Or it is possible your emotions are not letting you see that Thunderfoot is right.
intelligence is not the same as wisdom. just because you are on the spectrum like thundercuck does not mean that you can then know what to do with that information.
@@123lowp could be... im gonna go stare myself in the mirror to man up
@@123lowp It's neither. TF still makes valid points, but he's let his emotions get the best and hold him to his earlier positions when he needs to re-evaluate based on new evidence. He's suffering from an eternal case of confirmation bias.
Thunderf00t, are the Elons in the room with us right now?
Lol
Thunderfoot is correct.
You just don't like the stuff you don't agree with.
@@dsdgdsfegfeg He's been correct for a while. and then he got far too involved in wanting to watch a thing fail instead of explaining why it will fail.
@@Puddingskin01 I haven't watch thunderfoot for about 12 months. I noticed he was mainly concentrating on Musk 95%. Probably concentrating on keeping viewership up, that's normal. And Musk is sadly relevant & damaging to society. I don't remember Thunderfoot saying anything that was wrong though.
Launching starlink does not count as success for a spacecraft that is supposed to go to the moon routinely.
I was there the day he broke, it was shortly before the Brexit referendum and he had a debate with Sargon of Akkad.
That night did irreparable damage to his psychology and he never recovered. He never really understood why someone wouldn't just accept a blase assertion that, _"You're going to split the country!"_ wasn't a good enough excuse for the curtailment of the democratic process.
Gamergate really started that snowball rolling however, despite his ongoing criticism of Anita Sarkeesian at the time, he still saw Gamergate as some racist, sexist, homophobic, neo-n@zi movement. Apparently the idea of truth in media is something he's never quite understood.
@@generaljackripper666 Because Phil has always been a leftist commie.
Ya, Brexit contributed to the breaking sadly
ok
And Sargon wasn't even a great debater back then, the mere notion that someone could be in favour of brexit was enough to completely mentally break him. I was there when it happened.
I remember the moment I realized Thunderfoot was no longer objective. There was a video that stated the fact that Carbon dioxide was odorless and tasteless and Thunderfoot laughed and called that absurd. To disprove this he opened up a soda sniffed it and it burnt his nose. What he was smelling was carbonic acid, not straight carbon dioxide. I left a comment to correct him and he never responded or corrected. He seemed more interested in showing the other person was wrong, he lost interest in being factually correct.
He also thinks CO2 is a pollutant and is "changing" the climate, another example that he values subjectivity over objectivity.
He was never objective.
He would always make a long repetitive argument, riddled with opinion, while trying to make himself sound smart than just lay out facts. It was always about sounding smart and never the actual subject at hand. And that was sustainable at first when he was picking correct side of an argument. But then he started picking the wrong side, and that argument style just makes him sound stupider and stupider.
An example was solar roadways. He had hours of content on how it would break, how it wasn't tested, how it was slippery, how the inventers were idiots. Which was all true. But he could have just said "it will always be cheaper to build a roof over the road and install PV on that". Of course that wouldnt have allowed him to sound superior.
@@herrschaftg35 While it's true that it's natural, Uranium-235 is also naturally occuring, we just manipulated it a bit with centrifuges so there's more in one place and less in another. "More here, less there is broadly damaging an ecosystem" is a reasonable statement to call a pollutant, if you consider say, dumping fissile uranium waste back onto/inside mountainsides as being pollution. Or maybe you don't, and that's fine too.
But by that perspective, nearly nothing is a pollutant, as most elements occur naturally. (Pro-nuclear btw, but waste/side-effect containment needs real consideration, same as any power generation mechanism.)
@@DancerVeiledHUH my dude co2 is used in greenhouses to grow plants co2 increasing is literally greening deserts because lesseater is lost per molecule of co2 absorbed via diffusion through stomata
Whether he was right or wrong on any particular question, I got the impression that he didn't like to be challenged. Not saying the guy was always wrong by any means, but he seemed unable to accept what he saw as criticism as far as I could tell (full admission: yes, he also didn't answer me when I 'corrected' him - but I would have been fine with a reply correcting me if he could back up his claim; instead, I got no reply, so how is this supposed to educate me if I was in fact mistaken?).
Anyway, I wish him all the best - he certainly did have some interesting things up, like the alkali metal coulomb explosions in water. I asked him about getting a copy of his paper but no reply there either. Maybe he considered me to dumb to be worthy... or, maybe he just didn't read all the comments (I think I tried emailing my request too, but not sure now). I'd still be interested in reading his paper, but maybe I'll need to go to the library :)
He being an academic explains it to me.
He didn't make intelligence his identity, he made it BEING RIGHT. This is what is known in pro circles as a "bad move". Why?
NOBODY is right ALL THE TIME.
He got so used to constantly telling people how and why they were wrong that he started to believe he was always right, so now he can't accept his own mistakes.
And yes, as many picked up: This is the same mechanism for the TDS that has ravaged the world.
...not being right, but building your ego around something brittle and then protecting it from reality
' he made it BEING RIGHT.'
Completely incorrect. I'm 180 IQ range, I focus on being actually correct. Thunderfoot often has agendas that are far from 'being correct'.
Realize, he doesn't even see the forest for the trees on Trump.
Having been aware of Trump since the late 1970s to early 80s, and especially of the democrat jealousy from the early 90s range with the 'too big to fail' idea, I knew Trump was the best choice by far from even before the escalator.
'Linear logic + 1 or 2 percent chaos' is vastly superior to 'only linear logic'. The reasoning for why is actually kind of trivial, it's funny that so few really understand it. I've known 2 or 3 CEOs who were very similar to Trump, the results are fairly predictable and repeatable.
Realize, not bashing you or anything, just understand that isn't it. It isn't 'not being correct all the time'. He isn't even remotely trying to be correct, he's trying to fit completely inferior, preconceived notions to make the desired result true. It's actually far below what he is capable of, but it is what he was trained to do to fit in as an academic, northern democrat.
@@ModelLights That's a lot of big words which you clearly don't understand. No wonder your IQ is only 108.
@@D64nz ' No wonder your IQ is only 108.'
LOL Another ~130 range try hard and pretend, who bought the silly garbage Hawking handed out that 'lower IQ people's opinions matter..'
You do understand he lied to you with that crap, right? To both be more 'popular', and to give you guys pacifiers so you wouldn't bother him.
Just keep sucking on that pacifier hard as you and pretending something ridculous you say actually affects anything.
@@ModelLights Friendly bit of advise here, but don't start anything by announcing your IQ. Just knowing your IQ is a red flag. It says that you either took one of those free IQ tests on the internet that everyone takes and are completely meaningless, and you took the results seriously... or you actually paid for a real IQ test which are a bit more valid but taking one is entirely ego driven.
That said, maybe the point should be updated to "the _perception_ of being right." Celebrity intellectuals love the idea of being seen as the intellectual authority, while not ever putting in the effort to actually be right. A couple examples are NDT and that "Adam Ruins Everything" guy. Both are so in love with the idea of having intellectual power that they'll offer their opinion on anything as total fact regardless of the topic. And eventually they get exposed. NDT lost a lot of credibility and has had his share of cringe moments like when he lectured the world on the existence of Santa Claus on his Twitter account like he thinks we're all dumb toddlers. Or that Adam guy going on Rogan and getting exposed as a common moron.
Thunderfoot would have called the Apollo program a failure because it took 10 tries to land a man on the moon.
you have no clue. watch his videos he made on the apollo programm.
@@adswers6900 “watch his videos” No.
@@adswers6900But that is exactly why he's a hypocrite. He uses completely different standards for one compared to the other.
@@adswers6900 Pretty easy to be behind something decades after the outcome is already known. The question isn't what has Musk failed at: all companies and creative people have failures. Lots of them. The question is in what ways is he succeeding? Where is he showing vision and innovation? No one knows how successful anyone will be in the long run, but who is putting their money where their mouth is?
Nobody have set foot on the moon or left low earth orbit.
I had to unsubscribe to him, he became unbearable
Same! It was fun to watch him crap on musk for a while, but when it became political, I just left.
I'm still subbed, but don't watch his SpaceX vids. I sometimes still click on the random ones where he debunks silly inventions like the water bottle that fills itself or the solar roadways ones... anything that doesn't involve Elon he seems to do OK on still.
That said I haven't seen any vids in at least a year.
@@alessandricedric1995 "but when it became political, i just left" what is this supposed to mean? Are you saying that you agree with nazism/suppressing peoples rights to free speech or are you just another boring russian bot?
@@beayn The problem is in his more current debunking videos 1/3rd is spent on the title subject and after that part's over he goes off in a tangent to diss Elon Musk for the remaining 20 minutes
Same here.
Are you saying that Musk don't promise products and services he never delivers? Because he really does that.
Thunderfool has always been a pos. 10yrs ago he had a weird nonsensical beef with CrazyRussianHacker (Taras Kul). Thunderfool then created an alt account called, "CrazyRrussianHacker" (with 2 "r's") so that he could send a fake copyright strike on himself and then try to get Taras banned from yt for a false copyright claim.
Luckily yt caught it right away and suspended Thunderfool.
wow, I had not heard that. Is that documented? If true, the more recent going off the rails about Musk is not as anomalous as I had hoped.
Wow I don't remember this. He must've really gone off the rails by then if true, considering he was vehemently against false DMCA attacks when creationists used to use that tactic.
@@AlphaCrucis It wasn't long after Taras created that vid showing how to make a simple A/C type unit using liquid nitrogen. Thunderfool created a big stink out of it because someone else had made a similar vid and Thunderfool stuck his nose way too far into it. The other guy didn't have a problem with Taras' vid.
Source?
@@bleekcer Your own keyboard and searching on your own, lil Timmy.
Good video but you're missing some big pieces of the puzzle.
His downfall started in 2016 with the Brexit EU referendum when he outed himself as a far left socialist and used his channel to promote the European Union while shitting all over British patriots who simply wanted independence after decades of watching their country being damaged by mass immigration whilst being financially milked dry.
Then shortly after that he came down with an acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and shit all over American patriots who had similar concerns as the British had in their referendum. Thunderf00t pumping out pro EU / anti Brexit and pro Clinton / anti Trump propaganda throughout the year. The Elon Derangement Syndrome followed all of that but he was already well into his downfall by that point.
Yeah he left the "anti-woke" politics behind a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that, people are allowed to change opinions, but prior to today the last I saw of him was getting mad at a UK political youtuber over brexit.
I'm right wing and I still believe brexit was a mistake, and in fact britain is in deep shit right now, while in europe the wind is starting to blow in a different direction. Leaving eu because you dont like the current government is stupid. Your aim should be to change who's in charge of eu, not leaving it. We still need a looong way to go, because EU leaderships sucks, but if we can get the right people in the right place the eu could do wonders.
The merits and drawbacks of brexit is a long and complicated mess, let's be honest. As someone from Australia I was happy to see the old country independent again, but the way the country has gone since is just sad. To be fair, the seeds of decline were sown a century ago but there's no fixing that now.
The point is, though, that brexit as well as a couple other political events definitely changed thunderfoot's position overall and to be honest that's ok, hell my positions have changed, though in a different way, over the same period of time.
Brexit hasn't been that bad. I voted remain.
@@ccclll987 If you look at the structure of the EU, you recognize the idea of changing leadership as a fools errand. The problem of BREXIT was a number of new governments that were "deep state" who basically sabotaged their own nation. So now they stand naked, afraid, but not off the hook from, nor in the graces of, the EU. Stuck in a self-degrading malaise as they allow more foreigners into their country that despise them and wants to replace them. More people fought for ISIS from Britain than served in their armed forces.
"Look at these idiot Wright Brothers. The stupid thing barely gets off the ground. It's frankly absurd to suggest that humans, who have legs, forego their use in favor of some kind of poorly engineered flying contraption."
-Thunderfoot's Great Grandfather, probably
I get what you mean and I want to agree but at the same time I really don't like the comparison of the Wright Brothers to Musk
honestly though, the rush to explore outerspace is highly autistic. I think a more high IQ investment would be something more within reach, like age reversal. if all billionaires threw money at biotech research, we likely would be immortal within the next 5 years. this would be good because it would mean that I can be a 300 year old man having intense passionate sex with 18 year old females that I can inject my seed into. this is the future science will bring us. space exploration is cringe and literally stupid.
yeah not even close , he sucks now but lets not go musk rat mode
@@TrafficPartyHatTest nah chose side , blue or red ,well orange
@@hobomaster6237 nah, I sort of like purple actually
Man, what a trip. Thunderf00t was a legend, I learned so much growing up watching his videos throughout highschool over a decade ago. Truly one of the greats of early YT science education. Oh, how I miss the good ol' days before the Elon fixation...
i liked his science vids, to bad there aren't many anymore.
He lost me years ago when praising the theory of evolution but saying everyone has the same intelligence when born.
Shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
Thats proven with science so there is that. We get told every day that "Trust the science". Only when it suits us is closer to the truth
@@cofal79 "Trust the science" is a religious cult for dummies.
Unsurprising. Thunderfoot is an academic, and that basically guarantees that he is completely incapable of processing new information about any of the cathedral's commandments.
@@cofal79 Well Difference between the Races on Intelligence is proven by long term history.
what was Africa 10,000 years before Europeans ever set foot on their soil? Tribesmen with the technology of the stone age.
What was Africa in the 1400's when Europeans first set foot on their soil? Tribesmen with the technology of the stone age. At this same point in history, Europeans already invented Canon's, Firearms, the agricultural knowhow to grow food year round and even how to preserve food for nearly year long sea voyages, and the very ships capable of crossing the globe via the sea.
How can anyone argue there is no difference between races? how can so many blatantly spit in the face of history and fact?
Thunderf00t takes the "being right about something on the internet" thing really seriously.
so does this guy, clearly
Hahahaha love this description
He's an egomaniac and suffers from main character syndrome (YT is the steam in that engine). THAT is his religion. I remember in one video he put down another scientist (who disagreed with him on some point) for being lower in citations rank than him. There's lots of examples like that. It's not normal even for incredibly successful scientists to act that way.
With the Musk thing, it's all that resulting in jealousy. He believes that it should be *him* doing all that stuff.
Also that 2010s internet atheist thing was the most h0m03rotic nonsense ever.
and when he gets proven wrong on something he announces he's no longer dealing with given topic
He often is. like 95% of his topics.
He is no traitor like Musk. He is a hero to USA
I remember man years ago Thunderfoot went on atrip across America to interview somebody and when he finally got there he botched the audio so it was basically impossible to hear what was being said. Instead of apologizing that he f'ed up, he started to complain that he went on this whole trip[ just to bring us this interview and we should be thankful that he did that for us.
Ofcourse there were a metric ton of comments reminding him that it was his own idea and literally nobody asked him to do it.
Thunderfoot has been debunked several times, he lies just as much as the people he accuses, but he too has a cult behind him who will beat down anybody who dares to show them that their emperor has no clothes on.
@@vinny142 at least 50% of the cult is in this comments section 😂
He was definitely wrong about Brexit when that was happening, and he was also wrong about Sargon. But other than that, what exactly would he have been wrong about? I think his science videos and even his videos debunking Elons overzealous promises are pretty decent.
@@multi-milliondollarmike5127 TF was wrong when he said reusable rockets would never work. TF was wrong when he said Starlink was unprofitable. TF was wrong when he said Tesla was unprofitable. TF is on track to being wrong about Musk being bankrupt in 3 years. TF is far, far from perfect when talking about anything outside of his Chemistry PhD. I just wish he would stick to his lane, because that's when he makes cool videos instead of cringe videos.
@@desolder75 A few days after I made this comment I discovered just how biased, and wrong he has been on a lot of other things. He's got so much pride and will double down on terrible positions, even when the facts are right in front of him. I had been considering resubbing to him, but I won't be doing that anymore.
@@desolder75 They never seem to want to stay in their lane. They get so high off the smell of their own farts that they think they're the intellectual authority on everything. NDT is another one like that. It gets to the point that nobody takes them seriously anymore.
Thunderf00t has literally been proven right by reality.
Cope video dude.
If Thuderf00t's neck gets any bigger he'll be looking like Big Ed.
Dude looks like a winebox cat mom between his long, gross hair and his problematic glasses.
Buttered Toast.
To me, Thunderf00t lost the plot when he started on anti-brexit BS and it became painfully obvious that if what he was talking about fell more than a micrometer outside of his field of study then he had no clue about it. Par for the course with academics. I used to work IT for a university and dealt with professors and scientists every day. You'd be surprised how many of them wore velcro sneakers.
" You'd be surprised how many of them wore velcro sneakers."
No, I would *not* .
Highly educated people convince themselves that since they're smart in one discipline, then they are all-around smart... and that couldn't be further from the truth. You wouldn't believe some of the nonsense I've heard out of the mouths of people with post-secondary degrees. Doctors - MDs, PhDs, etc. - are just as gullible as anyone else (except in very small, hyper-specific areas) and almost all of them are either bigots, racists, sexists, elitists, or some combination of the four.
Same. I was a big fan. In fact I'd like to think he was pivotal in my growth as a secular young adult in terms of my political awareness, and of course my general ability to smell bullshit. Solar roadways, Water seer, and such like, those video series taught me to see beyond the immediate technical capabilities of a thing and consider the external factors involved and their implications. Sure, the machine can pull moisture from the air....but there is no moisture in the air where they actually intend to use it. Then I guess it was around the brexit time, things just started feeling less explained, there were fewer scale model demonstrations to prove his point. In particular when it came to brexit a lot of his arguments started becoming circular.
TF is IMO one of the truly great atheist cultural leaders we lost over the last decade, right up there with people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson. You can see it in their eyes when they are talking about something they truly know and are excited about, and you can see the difference when they're talking out of their ass out of anger or know it's just something they have to say for whatever reason.
Um Brexit was and has been a complete disaster wtf are u talking about?
Brexit was not the problem, it's the UK government that is filled with the same globalists the EU is filled with. Im sure they are enjoying the many pakis and indians that's flooding the island instead of the millions of Eastern Europeans. Only difference is, the Eastern Europeans go there to work hard and make money.
I used to watch Thunderf00t a long time ago, then at some point he just got cringy and I stopped. Not given him a second thought until this video popped up in my feed. Kind of nostalgic.
I'm still subbed waiting for his triumphant return to sanity.
@@DrMolotoff Hey let us know if that happens.
I wouldn't mind a sane TF to be back.
Nostalgia for sure. But time moves on.
I only remembered he existed when some other video crossed my feed an hour ago, then found this video and damn man this is just sad. I feel bad for the guy
Back in the GamerGate days, I was arguing with someone on Reddit (I was a kid okay!?) about Anita Sarkeesian and I wanted to cite something I'd seen in a Thunderfoot video - I went back and found it... and realized that he never actually made any substantive point about the people he was talking about, it was just edits of Anita saying something dumb with no context over and over and over again.
I still agree that Elon is a vaporware salesman. The cope and seethe is funny tho
How do people like you breathe properly. "vaporware"? Some of the best selling cars in the world are "vaporware"? VTOL spaceships are "vaporware"? I think some of you guys have a shortlist of words you're obligated to use on a daily basis even when they don't make sense.
Thank you for posting this. I've felt exactly the same way. Come back Thunderf00t!
At this point, he should just go away.
Same here
imagine having grey hair and wearing a pink anime cat shirt. lmao. truly a modern "man".
Wow, this video hits it perfectly. I like Thunderfoot, and he did make some really valid points on some of Elon's more spectacular claims. However, Elon is a visionary and arguably one of the most impactful humans to ever live. If only 10 pct of Elon's vision becomes reality then humanity is going to propel forward significantly. I'm rooting for Elon to succeed.
He should've never backpacked around the UK with Tilly Law.
Two issues people need to understand with Thunderf00t...
1/. TDS.
2/. Follow the money.
The End.
How long till he grifts to the right since thats where the money is going?
@@carsandsports123 He was fighting feminists and other left wingers in the past so it may come sooner than you'd realize?
TDS?
@@carsandsports123i don’t know but it worked for Elon
@@ereder1476 Trump Derangement Syndrome
Like too many “scientists”, Thunderf00t’s big problem is he arbitrarily substitutes hearsay for evidence to suit his narrative. He often does have lots of clear evidence in his videos which is starkly contrasted by the crutch of computer simulations that he dubiously presents as equivalent to reality.
I mean to be fair he mostly uses those to show interactions between atomic and subatomic particles, you can't really film that.
Right so how do we know that the CGI simulation is a faithful representation of reality and not just a CGI representation of an hypothesis?
@@andrewlutes2048 Because he's explaining established scientific theories not making up new stuff? If you have an issue with established concepts like temperature being transferred by atomic particles smacking into each other or that atoms of gas will do their best to fill a vacuum you can go ahead and dispute them, but it's not Thunderfoot you're trying to prove wrong there.
@@plmokm33 That’s my point. Theories are not necessarily true. If it’s true, why not show the data that makes it true instead of a CGI model? It’s suspicious when scientists make assumptions instead of showing actual evidence.
Well ,maybe he is just skeptic that Musk's plan to go to Mars will work. So, he is waiting Musk to fail asap so we won't bother anymore. In fact technological we are behind to achieve that and Musk does not have it. Musk is trying being embolden by Space X success even with some childish ideas.
his musk videos are needed, the guy is a fraud
Yep, he's a fraud that makes better things than other companies and a big fraud for selling a lot of stuff that people want and a fraud for becoming richer because of those things he sells, and fraudulently makes very high tech devices, and a big fraud for making a lot of jobs for people, and a fraud for having many great companies, and fraudulently stops making things that don't pan out, and fraudulently says forward looking things that people shouldn't hold him to because past performance doesn't predict future outcomes. What a huge fraud he is! What big fraud for having a company with one of the best in EV sales and even overall car sales, and being one of the best private rocket companies that NASA gives contracts to, and a big fraud for making other really interesting things like AI and AI robots and self driving that improves every year and such. Fraud I say! Fraud! All of it a total fraud! With fraud sauce on top!
How so? Overselling and hyping up products is what a salesman does. Of course they're always less awesome and much later when they actually arrive.
One can't say that he doesn't love recycling. Every video he makes in a series uses recycled material from previous ones. Sometimes you don't know if you've seen the video before or not
He doesn't take issue with recycling, it's that many of these "startups" try to badge themselves as "green" and try to obtain government subsidides as a means to make their business run.
@@dallysinghson5569 *whoosh*
@@chrimony that poster assumes "recycled material" means plastic and cardboard or such, and probably commented after reading only the first half of bardoomguy's post.
"I KNOW MORE ABOUT MANUFACTURING THAN ANYONE ELSE ALIVE" X 1000
Recycling is mostly a lie.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain...
Perfect description of Musk.
@@monsterboomer8051 That's cute.
he was never a hero. He was the villain from the start.
2007 was chock full of militant atheists.
Yeah, they wouldn't be cringe today if they weren't basically around every corner of the internet back then.
Mainstream Christianity in the US was the way it was because it was being being manipulated. One giant psyop church whose Vatican was Washington DC.
The militant atheists were right about militant atheism.
But then they took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up in a Looney Tunes skit for SJWs.
And for some reason decided they needed a new religion, after proving how bad it was to be religious.
So that golden calf thing came full circle.
@@williambarnes5023 The heel-turn shows that most of them were only atheists because they hated Christianity, not because they had a genuine academic position.
@@thelastdwemer It is right to hate Christianity. But they let that go to their heads to presume that anything else they chose would also be right.
I honestly always expected something like this to happen having seen his older content on creationists and how he reacted to Elon musk
No matter what happens, he'll never be as a bad as the creationists he shredded.
The real problem with Thunderf00t isn't politics, Musk or any of these sub-categories - It's that he's become the personification of Clarke's 1st Law and is blatantly jealous of anyone following Clarke's 2nd. I spent a good deal of time following his videos until pattern-recognition set in and I realised that he spent most of his time trying to discourage any attempts to go beyond the established - Ridiculing the types of people that advance science and humanity. Thunderf00t has become the gatekeeper of the _status quo..._
Many such cases, sadly.
Come on, Thunderpuss constantly lied about US politics. And the scams he was calling out were not "advancing science and humanity".
What are those laws?
@@williamblazkowicz5587 Seriously? You're already on the internet. They aren't something no one's ever heard of....
Yeah, criticizing is one thing, but he's more into mocking and dismissing stuff he dislike. Not objective
Elon only has so much money saved because he lives in Thunnderfoot's head rent free
hahaha, exactly !!!
also the emerald mine
Or in other words - "if you think about the guy I worship at all you are the one that's actually obsessed, not me defending them."
I also loved Thunderf00t, but he first started to show his unwillingness to concede a false argument in a live stream in 2015. Then during the Brexit-saga. In 2016 he said Tesla model 3 would never come out, then it came out in 2017, so he moved the goal post to it would never be profitable, then earnings came out and it had close to 30% margins. What really got me to dump his channel was the hyperloop. While some of his points were engineering challenges, (I'm an engineer) he compared a glancing impact with rollers on "that skinny rail" in the loop to a Semi hitting a wall head on... This is the same dude who had video's talking about tank armor.
At that point, I just assumed he was lying to click farm, so I old-yellered him.
It was the hyperloop for me as well, but i dont remember what exactly it was that exhausted my patience.
Didn't he also call anyone who wanted to vote for Brexit stupid as well?
It was probably around that time I stopped listening to him as well. Can't quite remember why, though.
As an engineer hyperloop was also what did it for me, but for different reasons. His comparisons to vaccum force to that huge NASA vaccum labs and his own little glass vaccum experiments to conclude the hyperloop simply cannot hold the vaccum was simply incorrect. I did the calcs myself and the numbers looked feasiable.
I distinctly recall Thunderf00t repeatedly describing a "blast wave" forming if a vactrain tunnel were ever to be punctured.
Plenty of footage of large IRL vacuum chambers _slowly_ filling back up with air after some valve or other was opened.
There _are_ very real challenges to building a vactrain, and Musk's "hyperloop" was bullshit meant to derail California HSR funding...and Thunderf00t talked about almost none of them.
Life's true meaning often lies in responsibility, not fleeting pleasures. Don't wait to start a family. Sacrifice now for lasting joy. Embrace responsibility, and it will shield you from despair in the years to come.
I used to watch Thunderf00t, I don't know when I stopped, but it's wild to see how much he's fallen off
Same here. I became a fan during the days of GG. Then, when he started going off on Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) and Brexit, I lost respect for him. And when it became clear that he was suffering from MDS (Musk Derangement Syndrome), I unsubscribed. It's really sad, he can't see that he's become everything he used to despise.
I started watching him when I went into my "i'm an Atheist and religion is bullshit!" phase of life (that's also when I subbed and watched people like the amazing atheist and MrRepzion) granted, I don't really care that much anymore and the latter 2 literally fell of so hard it's hilarious.
I liked how Thunderfoot actually debunked religion (again, anti-religion phase, i'm still not pro religion, but I just don't care that much anymore as long as it doesn't affect me personally)
when he went into more science topics, I also liked that.
I even liked it when he was roasting Elon and his projects, but then every other video became an "this is why Elon will fail" or "this is why
The dude is now paying Elon for his X subscription 🤣
Musk is the best snake oil man ever, inventor of stuff that already exists.
@@armandosillones2643 like rocket boosters that can land own their own and be used up to 20 times each or a 100% reusable rocket. Oh wait...
@@armandosillones2643 Nobody took EV's as serious. Nobody propulsively landed orbital rockets. Nobody offered high-broadband internet with a LEO satellite constellation. Nobody is building a fully reusable rocket to land on the moon and Mars.
@@yannisws Electric cars existed even before combustion, the problem is the battery and is still a problem he didn't improve it, just marketing, that's why a former battery manufacturer is the world leader today and not Tesla.
Rockets are inverse pendulum control, already solved maaany decades ago.
Starlink has no advantage over good satellite internet, except for ping but it's still too high for gaming.
Reusable rockets or even living on mars is so extremely useless and a waste of resources idk where to start.
@@yannisws Electric cars existed even before combustion, the problem is the battery and is still a problem he didn't improve it, just marketing, that's why a former battery manufacturer is the world leader today and not Tesla.
I discovered Thuderfoot's channel the very day Starship 5 successfully landed. I couldn't fathom what kind of clown I was facing. Thanks for this useful explanation video.
He is a like the flat earthers at this point, trying to deny reality in its face...
I completely agree he has disgraceful lack of ethics and morality, I mean I don’t believe in religion but I would never put someone down due to their beliefs or their sexual orientation. That’s just unacceptable.
But you showed nothing to prove that he is wrong about Musk. Whether you like it or not, he isn’t wrong. And all those videos about musk hold weight, now, since Elon is a major role in the modern political sphere.
British person involved in American politics? Shows you just how influential American politics are to the world. Being world polícia means your actions have an effect. So unless you got the rigorous math to prove him wrong, imma hear what he has to say about Musk. Though I’ll do it with a sour face cause it’s unacceptable to be as awful as he is towards humanity.
Thunderf00t is irrelevant.
Getting well over 200k views per video and forcing the russian bot armies to converge on his channel and any channel that mentions him in a pathetic attempt to discredit anything he says is "irrelevant"?
You have no idea what "irrelevant" means.
@@DiahRhiaJones Yes, he is irrelevant. 200k views is NOTHING compared to the tens to hundreds of billions of views, a day. You tmust not understand what irrelevant means.
ricegum is that you?
@@DiahRhiaJones Why would "Russian Bots" defend there main competitor? ya didnt think that hard did you kiddo.
There is no relevance anywhere here.
He literally said he "doesn't follow Starship" in his recent stream. Well then maybe he should stop streaming it and talking like he's an expert on it.
You dont relizes how uncommon a stable genius is untile you see all the unstable ones everywhere.
Genius my ass Thunderfool has never ONCE been right even go up against the Lowests apple the flatearthers he FAILED to debunk the flat earth like WTF how is he THAT INCOMPETENT?
@@snintendog Flat ethers have a more deluded, and extream religious take then Isis. Only a genius would even think that it is even possible to convert them away from flat earth...unstable genius unstable attempt..
@@snintendog You do realize that he discovered the reason why Natrium reacts explosively in water, right?
As in, the actual, almost full explanation.
Now, is he a genius because of that? Debatable and ultimately irrelevant, but you're entirely missing what TF actually put on the table if all you focus on are his online spats.
@@OzixiThrill Dude definitely didn't discover ANYTHING. Keep simping for a liar.
@@snintendog "Coulomb explosion during the early stages of the reaction of alkali metals with water" - That is the title of the study he did on the topic.
Since TH-cam doesn't like people linking actual scientific studies.
“Publishing long take downs of what another guy is doing with his time, that’s just fucking weird”… to be fair lol
He's always been this way. If you think he hasn't - it's probably because you were a fedoralord who agreed with him on certain topics.
"fedoralord " haha
Waaah he dissed your fake God waaah. Religion is dying, deal with it
where is full self driving...
been waiting for 8 years now sucks to worship a fraud.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Religion isn't dying big guy. What's dying is secular culture and values, since they're the people who are not breeding, and allowing themselves to be replaced
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Aww the fedora wearing redditcuck answered his call
Thunderfoot and Sci Man Dan, used to love watching them but they both got infected with TDS and then went batshit crazy.
Same thing with Jim Sterling too. A lot of people got broke in 2016. I wonder how they are feeling in 2024 due to recent events.
@@neat3468 Jim Sterling was always a nutter - he had to crank it up to 11 when merely being a nutter was no longer enough to draw clicks
What happened to Sci Man Dan? I must have missed that memo.
@@Bellicosy Lost his marbles and claimed that microchips could be injected together with vaccines, deletes all comments that go against that claim. He also went against Foucault's pendulum in one of his videos and deletes all mentions of that. I left then and never turned back. Learned to avoid certain types of pseudonyms and channel names like Sci Man or Physics Girl. They always stand for deranged personality types.
Sci man dan? When has he ever talked about politics in the last years?
He taught me just how valuable thermodynamics is and really helped me as a scientist to look towards things that don't energetically make sense and sense the bs.
He is allowed to critic musk if he wants but he hyper fixated on it, went off the rails and forgot his integrity for his own hatred or prehaps internal affairs.
His work on sodium potassium alloys and 3d visualisation of gases was peak entertainment and information. I hope he can find clarity and peace in his heart.
It sounds like the seismic shift in his life was being gobsmacked by mortality when his Dad died. All that grief, unsettling his life- the excess emotional & mental energy had to go somewhere. At such times, the absence of God or faith can hit all the harder.
What a oddly toxic parasocial comment to make lol. For someone who thinks they're a Christian you sure are a stain.
God wouldn't do you very much better. Belief in God doesn't stop people from getting hurt, people who believe in God get hurt all the time. A belief in God just postpones the mental energy that you could be using for other things in the belief of something that has no effect on your life besides what you purposely shove into it.
>militant atheist content
>valuable
Choose one
If you're into wearing fedoras or collecting Funko Pop figures, you'll probably find militant atheist content valuable.
@@Green_Tea_Coffee 😂
@@Green_Tea_Coffee😂
True! There probably isn't much overlap between militant atheist content and content that is actually useful (if at all).
"In 2016, something happened that would change everything."
except that thing wasn't Elon Musk; it was Brexit.
Brexit may not have been a success, and even if it was run by Torries who weren't retards and corrupt it might still have failed, but UK may have had problems regardless.
@@stevenwilson5556 From what I understand, Brexit was sabotaged by the same politicians who were supporting it originally. But that is only conjecture since that is what I heard from those who live in the UK.
@@herrschaftg35 Boris Johnson was anti-Brexit when the referendum was announced. He was on the radio the very next day saying it was "bonkers". He was then put in charge of the "official" Leave campaign (as opposed to, you know, Nigel Farage, "Mr Brexit", and leader of UKIP, the main party calling for Brexit).
While Boris had been elected Mayor of London previously, and had a measure of popularity as a comedy character (having also repeatedly guest-hosted a comedy "quiz" show about current events - they even put out an extended, hour-long cut of him hosting the half-hour show!), he was quite clearly put in charge of the Leave campaign to sabotage it.
Once the vote came in, where the media all run to for a speech? The official Leave leader? Nah, they all went to Nigel Farage.
@@worldcomicsreview354 So, it was sabotaged and Thunderpuss is lying as usual. Thanks for the info.
Not sure about your armchair psychology theory at the end here, but the rest of the video is on point. "Elon derangement syndrome" is a very accurate description of what's happened. Very sad to see.
Notice the video doesn't point to any of his criticism being wrong though? It basically does the exact same thing Thunder00t does to Elon....
Looks like someone has Elon Hardon Syndrome.
@@SueMyChin Well much of TF's criticism is opinion so there is no right or wrong answer per se. He is right about some of his points, and factually wrong about others
@@lennysmileyface How did you get that out of this comment? What the fuck lololol
@@kingcosworth2643 Cite factually wrong points then. That is where criticism should be, not blatant hypocrisy like this video presents.. "Thunderfoot doesn't like Musk? Well, I don't like Thunderfoot!"
What even is this video...
There's also the fact that Elon is neither an engineer nor a scientist. He’s also not a self-made billionaire, considering that he was born into a wealthy family. I’m sure that gets under Thunderf00t's skin.
“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it." -Voltaire
Thunderfoot's descent from fedora tipping angry atheist in to just Elon Derangement Syndrome. Also why does he look like every 50+ aged trans woman?
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed he looks like he's on the brink of trooning out
Tr00nf00t arc is coming.
Lmao
Its probably a result of extreme stress and terrible mental health.
Omg, that is what I was thinking.
Thunderf00t is just chasing the algorithm. He has figured out what a lot of content creators has figured out. The fact is if you make controversial videos, you get the crowd that agrees with you to watch for confirmation bias and you get the crowd that adamantly disagree with you to watch. It creates a cycle of easy to create react content.
His channel is stagnating. What algorithm is he chasing?
@@Astorath_the_Grim I guess that would depend on what you consider stagnating to be. He's gained 50K subscribers this year. It was 60 up until a month ago in which he lost 10K but I think that's a purge of dead accounts. A lot of channels lost subscribers in november. I lost a few hundred. I believe it was a purge.
His video views are mostly stable. He's averaging about 1.3 million a week. With peaks of about 2 million and dips of 700K. But it's random. Over the year it slightly trended down. But I think that's true for most channels. Unfortunately I can see more than a year back on social blade. However, I have scrolled through several years of videos and while the number of views fluctuate, they are doing about the same now as they were 2 years ago and better than they were 3 years ago.
I guess staying about the same falls into stagnation. But sometimes when the creative juices stop flowing, that's when chasing the algorithm helps keep them going.
Yep, he's got one of the oldest and most established channels on YT but has seen next to no growth in decades once he hit a wall and became irrelevant. Now he just watches the stats to see what preforms well and then panders to that niche, it's no longer about making reason criticism, it's about finding ever more petty things to pick on, and when he's wrong about them, simply moving on.
@@Astorath_the_Grim No clue how much money he actually makes (because fuck transparency, righ?), but he has 2400 members of patreon. Pretty sure that money in combination with his researcher position and ad revenue helps him lead a cozy life, especially considering he probably makes the same three videos over and over again.
Coming from a guy with a video called "The libs of tiktok going insane" is wild 😂
It's a good video though
Thunderfoot always screamed Enlightened Atheist™️ to me. He's someone who is overtly blind to several things and is unwilling to self-improve. As with everyone who lacks enough self-awareness, Thunderfoot self-destructed.
I always saw that as a major flaw.
I stopped watching because he has a habit of repeating the same points, over and over in a video, with the same memes like the forehead slapping guy or facepalm star trek guy. His videos became repetitive and predictable.
Trigglypuff? Now that's a blast from the past.
😂😂😂😂 Dude so good I forgot about her too 😂😂😂😂😂
I wonder what she’s doing nowadays.
now that would be a video idea. a "where are they now" about people like trigglypuff
He had legit complaints about some of Musk's early projects and it seems that because he was successful despite not having Thunderfoot's blessing really got to him.
Thunderf00t literally made the same Elon Musk video 40 times.
And they are all full of bs that have nothing to do with reality.
This in itself must be some kind of achievement.
He wishes he was Musk.
Steve Wonder could see that.
Steve Wonder is not blind, just legally blind.
I was subbed to this guy! Truth is, Musk skepticism is absolutely valid, but that doesn't mean it's right to downplay SpaceX's achievements.
Thudeff00t was very affected by his father's passing. He wasn't the same after that.
I can get that. However, Thunderfoot is old and gray himself, he had to imagine his dad would pass sooner or later.
I don't blame his Dad for leaving him.
He’s kinda like this one guy I met online . He went off on me in some Facebook comments, once and just called me all kinds of names I forgot what the discussion was about. My comment was pretty neutral. Anyways..
Turns out every other post or yelp or internet review he made attached to his email was complaining about telemarketers calling to talk to his dead “wonderful wife”. Years worth of posts and that was the only topic. 😢 “My wife is dead and you stupid mfs won’t stop calling god dammit”
@@evolgenius1150 What a giant baby, scam callers constantly call for deceased relatives.
@@kingterry6045 Some people are closer to the edge than others. Such an obsession is not rational, as you recognize.