only braindead if you are. the ssc may have cheated as you say but what can the car do? the other 2 have not yet tested but what is your educated guess as to what they can do? I think that its only braindead if you have no ability to think deeper than ''what has already been done'' it takes intelligence to make an opinion on what can happen based on factors and data presented.
@@RobertMitchell I apologize !! "braindead" was wrong word. Meaningsless is better...I`m almost sure that is gonna be dicousions about 3 third parties verifiing and the 3:rd parties independce to the actual carcompany. Koenigsegg is model there with 4 gps transmitters and a roadpatrol with laserpistol.I think even whre the place were all 3 recordattempt take place i also thnks gonna become a subjekt for discoussion. Ehra -lessien are the most advantageous i think No crosswinds and 8.4 km straight wide road. But as Swedish citizen of course i hope that Koenigsegg takes it. So far they have been most advantageus and developed their cars fastest with best results.
@@mattiasandersson3444 Bro before you start calling people Braindead or meaningless, You best check your Grammer or it can turn the tables words can be powerful, we all have to be careful with them. It helps prevent war guys. :) No offence bro just advice.
@@tooclaws That day i will se you write in Swedish with right grammar, i shall write in english with right grammar to, or shall i write in spanish ? How many languages can you write and understand ? 3 for me.
The funny thing is that now there are all these timestamps, I am actually more inclined to watch the video in its entirety, thanks for putting the effort in to do that as well (guess a thank you goes to Tom Stamp for that..)
Koenigsegg have a great simulator and already display max speed at 532 km/h, last time they did the same with the actual world record and the simulator was 2km/h off. And lets be honest, Christian it's not bullshit, it's the goat
For sure the Jesko. That flatplane crank engine sounds so fine in my ears. And it's design is of the rack. The attendance to details is perhaps second none. And I'll always wave the flag for a European car against cars from the states.
Robert, you're a really cool and genuine guy. I hope my wife and I can make it out to the ring sometime and enjoy some laps with the team. I had no desire to visit the ring in-person until I saw your videos.
@@RobertMitchell I had been very curious about the ring years back... but Rob Misha and the Apex team drives me to actually make plans to visit also.... ❤️
You and/or Misha might have covered this sometime in the past but would love to hear about the history of the Nurburgring; when was it built, why, important track records achieved etc. Love the content and a stiff Margarita, enjoy!
Personally, I feel that “most” of these insane horsepower, top-speed record cars are nothing but flex cars. Almost 99% of them will never even be used to close of their potential.
I misheard "hard braking zones" as "heartbreaking zones". Well. I guess those too exist on the Nürburgring, but they're different places for different people 😁
I was sitting here thinking, heartbreak zone sounds like a bad 80s song. Looked it up and some band called strangeways did it. Sounds exactly as bad as I thought it would 🤦♂️
I think koenigsegg are so much further ahead than all other companies, they just keep it under wraps because they're not a big company, they can't just throw money at it like other companies can
I love the tempo of your videos... calm, collected, measured and articulate... and you appear to do it all in one take! 🤣 Keep them coming, and all the best from one of your Brit fans 👍🏻🇬🇧
I had a 1990 E30 M3. I swapped out the transmission with the close ratio trans from a 635, Shrick cams, custom exhaust, 3pc wheels, Racaro seats, Hafler/Alpine stereo...Had it on a half dozen tracks too.
I use to think it would be stupid to drive on track in the rain. Then we had a cold and wet HPDE weekend this past October and I had to do several sessions in the rain at Road America. Total BLAST! Learned a ton about the car and driving lines. You are 100% correct Robert. Merry Christmas out there!
Engine theater: 1.Venom F5, 2.Jesko, 3. Tuatara. Looks: 1.Jesko, 2.Tuatara, 3.Venom F5. Ability to get the record speed average based on thier drag coefecient, power, and gearing: 1.Tuatara, 2.Jesko/Venom F5; what do you think Robert, my guesses are based on what I remember hearing.
I suspect that I am close to your assessment here.. I however have only heard on in person and I may or may not swap 2 and 3 on the sound side... however I still need to work that out lol
6:10 If youre interested in restomod e30 m3 you should check out the build by jp performance. He turned an e30 into a m4 while keeping the classic looks. Maybe this could serve as a sort of inspiration for you
My favourite will have to be the Chiron. I firmly believe that in that car you sit really comfortably and do top speed runs without breaking a sweat whilst in the other three everything would be shaking and vibrating. I just have this feeling that the Chiron is put together alot nicer then the others. Feel free to correct me if you think i am talking smack. Bugatti has been the trend setter for these hypercars ever since the Veyron came out. The ultimate all rounders imo.
Your honesty and down to earth demeanor is very refreshing in a world of clickbait automotive TH-camrs. Thanks for another great video and keep it up!!
Bugatti could not run in the reverse direction. The fear was the track was not safe to run at the speed in the opposite direction. I’m not sure how that works but that was the reason.
Robert your so easy and enjoyable to watch. I love your approach to your content and appreciate the respect to your viewers time by adding time stamps.
Loving your idea about the e30 M3. I am finishing my e30 320is in the same way. Weapon on the track but still comfortable with AC and perfect for ME. Of course I had to include my favourite engine (s54 CSL). Thanks for sharing.
Ahh...what a great surprise! Digging out of the snow on east coast USA and a new video to fill a hot chocolate break. Venom has the looks...hopefully has the speed. Thanks for the great content.
Why do 5 people dislike this video. It isn’t misleading, it is very easy to navigate through, it is entertaining, and you are a good guy. I don’t see a reason.
Love your delivery style and informed opinion Robert. BS-free / non-self promotional content is very welcome so please keep it up 👍 ... but with my anorak on, Vintage according to the VSCC terms is pre 1931. Love the idea of an E30 M3 though - looking forward to seeing this idea develop into something really special.
Hi Robert. I like the Koenigsegg. I also agree with you about vintage cars. I had a 1973 Toyota Corona 1900 that a friend of mine wanted me to transfer into a racing car and I said no thank you. Left it standard, cleaned it up and drove it for 5 years.
Ok! That`s a way more creative drink than my Mojito! I will shut up and listen now. (already needed to laugh when I saw the Hyper-Mega-Giga-Car background). Cheers!
@@RobertMitchell on that note: did you ever fell for the ‘consciously competent’ maslow pitt? Ergo: did you ever think ‘I really got the hang of this’ but then you get the realitycheck because apparently you didn’t. If so, please tell us about it.
I believe the Venom F5 and the Jesko are capable of breaking the 300 MPH record, especially if we take a look at the Venom GT, the car did 270 MPH in 2014 with manual trans and less power, the Venom F5 has upgraded chassis, new engine, new transmission, better aerodynamic, so I do believe that the Venom F5 is capable of, the same thing with the Jesko, Koenigsegg is doing better and better every single time they come up with something crazy
I'm not an engineer, but I think when you speak of drag coefficients, they are fractional numbers like 0.279. The contest between these will be interesting. Hopefully they will follow the accepted practice you have outlined. This is more like what we see for records on the salt flats in US.
You're right Robert you learn more from track time in the rain (and snow) than riding in dry weather. Inputs have be smoother in rain which makes for better car balance which in turn will translate to faster speed in the dry. Also loss of control are normally less tragic as you have less speed to shed. With the exception of keeping our windows opened (requirement at most tracks here) and standing water I love track time in the rain.
I like your thought about “Stinger” E30 M3, but please continue the Schimmer collection. Take a e.g 325 E30 to build on. And thanks for your vid. Your vids is one of few that I have “bell” on.
@@RobertMitchell Sorry I had a think tank and didn’t think a second step (or bad luck when I thought 😏). I didn’t remember that it it’s about the M3 collection. “Ding dong” 😂
thanks for the great video, and I appreciate the timestamps to make it easier to find parts I'm more interested in! Just a detail--as of when I'm writing this, the description says 600 (instead of 6000?) at around 15 minutes
Thank you! I had a thought. How about a Robert Mitchell "Cocktail 101", with now, the top three cocktails at home, during the end of year weeks. Favorite vintage car currently, a Porsche 935 dp motorsport slantnose :)
I have recently come across your channel. I would definitely go E30 i know I am biased towards them as I have an BMW E30 that I am building. Hopefully next year I I'll make it to the ring in it. Keep up the good work.
welcome to the channel vasi, hope to see you in the comments more often!! when you get the 30 to the ring be sure to bring it by.. would love to see it!
@@RobertMitchell I will definitely be around in the comments in the future. Thanks for the invite when I do come to the ring, I will make sure to come by, it would be nice to get your opinion, on the car.. Keep up the good work and all the best. Have a good Christmas
The e30 will be amazing for sure and I agree with making it more street worthy. What's my favorite? Miura SV (however I'll never be able to own one.) I have had a couple 325is e30s and I've actually been missing how fun they were. Any air cooled 911 would be fun as well, not sure how well they do when pushed hard on the ring though.
I drive to the ring 1 or 2 times every year and do a few laps. On the subject of the wet line, it struck me that some, even experienced, drivers do not believe in the wet line and claim that this would be more of a myth, how can that be and what do you think of it?
@@RobertMitchell I also asked myself why some say that... I don't want to mention any names now, but a driver who also drives VLN regularly told me that he never drives the wet line ... I couldn't understand that, but as a beginner I didn't want to say anything.
My „vintage“ choice is a Z3 Coupe 3.0 (E36gen). Love the involvement, love the looks and the way it handles on the track. Will come visit Apex during the SA Perfektionstraining next summer 😎
For a street E30 I would take the italian/portugese M3: 320IS. It’s more of a sleeper, the itb’d S14 is inside with more hp/liter but you don’t have the hassle of a homologation special for the body panels if they get scratched or bent.
Awesome as usual Robert! Yes do a restomod BMW for yourself. Yes, I agree with you that F5 sounds so delicious, that car could easily be another class of car, Hyper Muscle!
for a classic car i'd probably take an E-type convertible, a ferrari daytona convertible or if we're looking at race/track cars, i'd take an Sierra RS500 and build it to DTM spec
Hi Robert! With regards to the E30 build: I agree! Lower powered cars with shorter gearing and a lovely handling balance, rather than ultimate traction, are much more enjoyable on the street. I highly recommend looking at the under-3-liter, narrow-body classic 911s that Tuthill Porsche in the UK build for inspiration. Richard Tuthill is a legend and his company does awesome stuff.
Respect to Bugatti and I believe they did 304 mph, they honorably said the reason why they didn't go both directions and didn't care to have the official record. My personal opinion, because the producers of the Jesko and F5 have been honorable in the past both will not disappoint in their next attempts. Can't wait to see all the runs though. Truly epic cars for our day!
Even Bugatti are not truly the car the car are not in a production car Lol..... So they claim their top speed 304mph is really wrong two mistake here from Bugatti :))
That's a great idea Robert, that's exactly what I would do with an e30. In my opinion there's no point in trying to turn a 30 year old classic into a competitive track car. I'd make in into the most liveable, fancy and involving car I could.
@@RobertMitchell I would be very interrested in the conceptualization. Seeing as the E30's were pretty spartan cars to say the least, there are plenty of oppertunities to evolve the car without corrupting it :D The Singer formula resonates with so many people, and understandably so! I believe the E30 would be a good choice for a treatment like that, it's on the edge though, I would never do it to an e36 but the E21 and E28 althought older, just don't quite have what the E30 has.
I think the fact that the Jesko is crash tested and homologated worldwide, including US, puts it in a category of its own (Or, actually, in the Bugatti category). If inclined, you could use it as your daily driver in California. I think that would be impossible in the F5 or Tuatara.
Good question. Don’t know exactly how it works, but in many places around the world a customer wouldn’t be able to legally drive their F5 or Tuatara to a cars and coffee? Trailering a hypercar everywhere doesn’t sound fun. 😊
I've watched a few TH-camrs regularly and without being negative given your comments re Archie Hamilton it's all fluff and click bait I've binned them all you are my last man standing fair play to Robert no nonsense reality and damn good insight and advice
for a singer like build, i recomend Retropower UK, they have some awesome restomods, check them out. Money no object, i would maybe have a low key modern car, to go in stealth mode, then a shitload of restomods.
@@RobertMitchell that would be great, would love to see it. Still, if you don't know them, check out some of their builds, their attention to detail is amazing, and they care about the future of their cars, putting a lot of effort in avoiding them rusting away.
@@RobertMitchell Hey Robert,what about Ferrari 288 GTO,like Singer with 911?? Let's say 308 GTB,with carbon fiber body panels like 288GTO!! Engine block from F40(like David Lee Dino),tuned to 400 hp!! Or engine from 430 scuderia!? Chris Harris said:"give me 288GTO that drives like F40!! 😉👌 So beautiful 288GTO(in Black,or Grey),lite weight with carbon body,no ABS,no traction control!! But with upgrated suspension and brakes!! Btw,with carbon body panels maybe ask Mate😉!!
Great idea with the M3 to set your own twist on the car. It's you who's going to enjoy the roadtrips and look at the interior. So go for it. ;) My vintage cars is the Ford Escort RS1600i, RS Turbo, RS2000 and the Escort RS Cosworth. Last one imo one of the most exciting and brutal looking cars of that era. And the ride is phenomenal as well on roadtrips due to the 4wd :)
Favourite vintage cars (among others...): Renault 5 Turbo, Mercedes 190E Evo, Subaru Impreza GC8 Type R, pre'74 Porsche 911. Not to mention supercars such as Countach, F40 and 512 BB...
For top speed, 1 factor is overlooked but really important. High speed stability can be really a blocker, even if they have the power. 500kph+ is no joke. They can try, but they might need to lift off early because the car is not stable enough. (Like SSC admittedly lifted off because of stability issues, but they might have also thought they have the record and it is an easy choice) Koenigsegg definitely has some advantage here, because they have experience and proven record of high speed stability.
@Andrew Foster Wind is part of stability. Put a huge wing on it, and it will be stable, regardless of wind, but at the cost of top speed. The challenge is to have both.
I love the e21\e30 ..e21 323 with Bauer top please..bette r power to weight than than the 325..or.or e30 touring love that shape ..and the e28 shnitzer !
@@RobertMitchell Lol, Sorry Tom Bro Blame Robert not me. :) I wouldn't even worry about them if people want to skip then maybe they buy a skip button? Lmao, Think about it Apex skip tool, winner winner chicken dinner. :) Have a nice night guys.
Lol, I faught that F5 and tuatara were the same cars 😂 for me the F5 is the most beautiful. (Looks like Tims 675LT 😅) But I think the Jesco will take the crown.
I'm eagerly awaiting that career choice vid you mentioned! I genuinely feel like you're my favourite "TH-camr" rn, you don't give a damn about what anyone else thinks and you say it as it should be said. Listening to your response to our feedback is awesome too and thank YOU for the awesome content! As Tim would say Chee-ee-ee-eers! 😂🥂
thank you Robert for the great video once again. One question for you: Where does the big interest in drag racing in the US come from? In Germany there is rather a small scene. or is that just my wrong perception? best regards.
Hi Robert ! My personal opinion that keep the classics really original/ resored to orinigal, unless you would like to make it a tracktool. I would love to have a mint condition E30 M3 or M535/M5. Perhaps one Day...
I would really like a consortium of the manufactures to add a couple lanes to the road in Pahrump, and make that the standard. Of course Konnigseg has already said the Jesko is the last speed car they will make.
Hi Robert! Just a tiny tip: try to somewhat separate the questions from each other, because you often flow directly from one question to the next and that sometimes leaves us confused if we don’t catch the change. Could be something as dramatic as a black screen with a number or as little as a short pause with a firm “next question” right after. Thanks.
hahaha nope... not gonna happen :) this is a conversation where we chat around topics back and forth etc. as you see in the time stamps there are many topics within the topics and we cannot bounce around with black screens. I have stated many times that this needs to be simple for me. If Im adding black screens im out I do thank you for the idea and the comment however!! I hope that you can use the time stamps to get some of the desired results you mention
@@RobertMitchell Have you ever driven one by any chance I mean not necessarily on the track? Or perhaps someone you know had? And by the way I know a great recipe for a Bloody Mary if you and Misha interested.
Quite braindead thread with the thoughts that 1 of them is a cheater and the other 2 not has tested yet. So what material to discous ?
only braindead if you are. the ssc may have cheated as you say but what can the car do? the other 2 have not yet tested but what is your educated guess as to what they can do? I think that its only braindead if you have no ability to think deeper than ''what has already been done'' it takes intelligence to make an opinion on what can happen based on factors and data presented.
@@RobertMitchell I apologize !! "braindead" was wrong word. Meaningsless is better...I`m almost sure that is gonna be dicousions about 3 third parties verifiing and the 3:rd parties independce to the actual carcompany. Koenigsegg is model there with 4 gps transmitters and a roadpatrol with laserpistol.I think even whre the place were all 3 recordattempt take place i also thnks gonna become a subjekt for discoussion. Ehra -lessien are the most advantageous i think No crosswinds and 8.4 km straight wide road. But as Swedish citizen of course i hope that Koenigsegg takes it. So far they have been most advantageus and developed their cars fastest with best results.
@@mattiasandersson3444 Bro before you start calling people Braindead or meaningless, You best check your Grammer or it can turn the tables words can be powerful, we all have to be careful with them. It helps prevent war guys. :) No offence bro just advice.
@@tooclaws That day i will se you write in Swedish with right grammar, i shall write in english with right grammar to, or shall i write in spanish ? How many languages can you write and understand ? 3 for me.
@@tooclaws Hey it’s all good I know where he’s coming from :-) not all topics carry the same way to each person
The RingTracktor
Roberts T6 is even faster😳😳😳
Misha... we dont want to put these other cars to shame...
Misha is going to smash the speed record in The Ring Tractor 💍🚜 💨
@@NormalKatastrof lol
You should make that in to a sticker.
The funny thing is that now there are all these timestamps, I am actually more inclined to watch the video in its entirety, thanks for putting the effort in to do that as well (guess a thank you goes to Tom Stamp for that..)
gives you something to look forward to
Koenigsegg have a great simulator and already display max speed at 532 km/h, last time they did the same with the actual world record and the simulator was 2km/h off.
And lets be honest, Christian it's not bullshit, it's the goat
Yep. Koenigsegg is most realistic on the speeds.
I will be exited to see them back up the sim work!
@Valkyrie 007 Downhill wind assistance?
These are all wrong. The fastest car is any rental car.
Our 218i likes your thinking.
DOnt be Gentle
You not wrong 🤣😂🤣
Agreed, because any rental car is the fastest.
The guy in a rental Mustang proved that rule in US (the "cannonball" run)
For sure the Jesko. That flatplane crank engine sounds so fine in my ears. And it's design is of the rack. The attendance to details is perhaps second none. And I'll always wave the flag for a European car against cars from the states.
well I am going to have to wave the US flag then hahaha really I love all 3 for what they are and am eager to see how they perform in real life
@@RobertMitchell I respect that. I'm from Denmark, brothers and sisters to Sweden... So I'll keep the support in the family 🇩🇰
Easily the Koenigsegg is my favourite :)
beautiful cars no doubt!
I'd say the absolut version of the Jesko
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That’s a beautiful car.
Robert, you're a really cool and genuine guy. I hope my wife and I can make it out to the ring sometime and enjoy some laps with the team. I had no desire to visit the ring in-person until I saw your videos.
we would love to see you out at the track man! It really is a special place and something that is at least worth experiencing once!
@@RobertMitchell I had been very curious about the ring years back... but Rob Misha and the Apex team drives me to actually make plans to visit also.... ❤️
You and/or Misha might have covered this sometime in the past but would love to hear about the history of the Nurburgring; when was it built, why, important track records achieved etc. Love the content and a stiff Margarita, enjoy!
That’s a video right up mishas alley I’ll talk w him about it
Personally, I feel that “most” of these insane horsepower, top-speed record cars are nothing but flex cars. Almost 99% of them will never even be used to close of their potential.
this I agree with but am excited to tell you that I know of one that is getting pushed and ill share more on that next week
@@RobertMitchell , nice bud! Yeah I said “most” cause some are technological showcases which is pretty cool. Have a good one Robert🤙🏻
That's almost like any car.
Look at most guys that buy pickup trucks. Barely used to tow or haul stuff 99 percent of the time.
Much like most SUVs and pickup trucks never leave the road.
@@captain_context9991 except when trying to keep up with cars in the corners 🤣
I misheard "hard braking zones" as "heartbreaking zones". Well. I guess those too exist on the Nürburgring, but they're different places for different people 😁
Many heartbreaking zones do in fact exist hahah
I was sitting here thinking, heartbreak zone sounds like a bad 80s song. Looked it up and some band called strangeways did it. Sounds exactly as bad as I thought it would 🤦♂️
@@happybeerlove hahahha
Classic choice would be Lotus Carlton. Turbo 3.0l straight six, 380bhp, 186mph 4 door saloon / sedan. Lotus suspension - fabulous Q car
6:50 LOL my plates have been board-shamed quite a bit in France too :) No mail yet ;)
Simple, quick and down to earth. Always a pleasure listening to you.
For sure the Koenigsegg. We love Christian and his team.
GO SWEDEN 🇸🇪
6:35 haha The exact same thing happen to me lol it’s so weird to see your number plate ipe there lol but it was effective I immediately slow down
I was rubber necking to read it.. had a good laugh lol
@@RobertMitchell same ! But it makes me paranoid for a bit lol
I think koenigsegg are so much further ahead than all other companies, they just keep it under wraps because they're not a big company, they can't just throw money at it like other companies can
I love the tempo of your videos... calm, collected, measured and articulate... and you appear to do it all in one take! 🤣 Keep them coming, and all the best from one of your Brit fans 👍🏻🇬🇧
I had a 1990 E30 M3. I swapped out the transmission with the close ratio trans from a 635, Shrick cams, custom exhaust, 3pc wheels, Racaro seats, Hafler/Alpine stereo...Had it on a half dozen tracks too.
I use to think it would be stupid to drive on track in the rain. Then we had a cold and wet HPDE weekend this past October and I had to do several sessions in the rain at Road America. Total BLAST! Learned a ton about the car and driving lines. You are 100% correct Robert.
Merry Christmas out there!
glad you came to team rain!!! it really opens your eyes to what's possible
Engine theater: 1.Venom F5, 2.Jesko, 3. Tuatara. Looks: 1.Jesko, 2.Tuatara, 3.Venom F5. Ability to get the record speed average based on thier drag coefecient, power, and gearing: 1.Tuatara, 2.Jesko/Venom F5; what do you think Robert, my guesses are based on what I remember hearing.
I suspect that I am close to your assessment here.. I however have only heard on in person and I may or may not swap 2 and 3 on the sound side... however I still need to work that out lol
6:10 If youre interested in restomod e30 m3 you should check out the build by jp performance. He turned an e30 into a m4 while keeping the classic looks. Maybe this could serve as a sort of inspiration for you
Motor too?? I want na and low power tbh
@@RobertMitchell Yes, motor too.
My favourite will have to be the Chiron. I firmly believe that in that car you sit really comfortably and do top speed runs without breaking a sweat whilst in the other three everything would be shaking and vibrating. I just have this feeling that the Chiron is put together alot nicer then the others. Feel free to correct me if you think i am talking smack. Bugatti has been the trend setter for these hypercars ever since the Veyron came out. The ultimate all rounders imo.
Your honesty and down to earth demeanor is very refreshing in a world of clickbait automotive TH-camrs. Thanks for another great video and keep it up!!
Bugatti could not run in the reverse direction. The fear was the track was not safe to run at the speed in the opposite direction. I’m not sure how that works but that was the reason.
the reason doesn't matter... they did not do it so no record :)
Gotta be the Jesko Absolut.. A. it's named after the local vodka producer, B. CvK is a genius, a hero of mine and pretty much a Bond villain..
gotta love a good drink reference from a car co!
The M4 sunset photo looks amazing!
Borre is killing it being the camera tbh
@@RobertMitchell Also good informative video as always!
Robert your so easy and enjoyable to watch. I love your approach to your content and appreciate the respect to your viewers time by adding time stamps.
Tuatara, jason castriota is the man! lol he designed many cars I dig...
Love the older cars they are more 'out of control' fast and you have more sense of the speed. Certainly the 80's cars
Loving your idea about the e30 M3. I am finishing my e30 320is in the same way. Weapon on the track but still comfortable with AC and perfect for ME. Of course I had to include my favourite engine (s54 CSL). Thanks for sharing.
be sure to shoot me some photos of the 320! really would be cool to see
Ahh...what a great surprise! Digging out of the snow on east coast USA and a new video to fill a hot chocolate break. Venom has the looks...hopefully has the speed. Thanks for the great content.
ahhh enjoy the hot choc man!!! thank you for the comment Rick!
Why do 5 people dislike this video. It isn’t misleading, it is very easy to navigate through, it is entertaining, and you are a good guy. I don’t see a reason.
I guess because he was talking about modifying a clean e30M3? ;)
Love your delivery style and informed opinion Robert. BS-free / non-self promotional content is very welcome so please keep it up 👍
... but with my anorak on, Vintage according to the VSCC terms is pre 1931.
Love the idea of an E30 M3 though - looking forward to seeing this idea develop into something really special.
Agree the question was actually vintage or classic. ;-).
Im already looking for the e30!!
Hi Robert. I like the Koenigsegg. I also agree with you about vintage cars. I had a 1973 Toyota Corona 1900 that a friend of mine wanted me to transfer into a racing car and I said no thank you. Left it standard, cleaned it up and drove it for 5 years.
Nothing wrong with an Egg!!! and the 1900 is a pretty cool cruiser no doubt
Toyota "Corona"!! 🤣🤣👌
Ok! That`s a way more creative drink than my Mojito! I will shut up and listen now. (already needed to laugh when I saw the Hyper-Mega-Giga-Car background). Cheers!
Super duper car! I will get to the mojito question soon dont worry.. its on the list
@@RobertMitchell Oh! That sounds great! Excited on that part. I switched now to my Ypioca Cachaca Prata.
Hey Robert, after 6000 laps what has been your scariest moment on track and did it teach you anything that you would like to pass on to others.
I have got your question in the notes!! great one!
@@RobertMitchell on that note: did you ever fell for the ‘consciously competent’ maslow pitt? Ergo: did you ever think ‘I really got the hang of this’ but then you get the realitycheck because apparently you didn’t. If so, please tell us about it.
I believe the Venom F5 and the Jesko are capable of breaking the 300 MPH record, especially if we take a look at the Venom GT, the car did 270 MPH in 2014 with manual trans and less power, the Venom F5 has upgraded chassis, new engine, new transmission, better aerodynamic, so I do believe that the Venom F5 is capable of, the same thing with the Jesko, Koenigsegg is doing better and better every single time they come up with something crazy
I am excited to see what all 3 can do... I may or may not have some first hand info on the SSC that I hope to share, or not share next week
I'm not an engineer, but I think when you speak of drag coefficients, they are fractional numbers like 0.279.
The contest between these will be interesting. Hopefully they will follow the accepted practice you have outlined. This is more like what we see for records on the salt flats in US.
Engineering Explained has entered the chat... :)
Hopefully Jason will take on the task of predicting which one will be fastest!
Will the 3-cylinder Gemera need a speaker or aftermarket exhaust?
You're right Robert you learn more from track time in the rain (and snow) than riding in dry weather. Inputs have be smoother in rain which makes for better car balance which in turn will translate to faster speed in the dry. Also loss of control are normally less tragic as you have less speed to shed. With the exception of keeping our windows opened (requirement at most tracks here) and standing water I love track time in the rain.
Great! Some more wallpapers.
Keep it up!
That's the plan!
What an excellent channel where the host makes sense after being drunk , which if not, gets me drunk for sure with pleasure !!!
I like your thought about “Stinger” E30 M3, but please continue the Schimmer collection. Take a e.g 325 E30 to build on.
And thanks for your vid. Your vids is one of few that I have “bell” on.
ahhh if its gonna be a m3 it needs to start life as an m3 :)
And thank you for ringing the bell heheheh
@@RobertMitchell Sorry I had a think tank and didn’t think a second step (or bad luck when I thought 😏). I didn’t remember that it it’s about the M3 collection.
“Ding dong” 😂
thanks for the great video, and I appreciate the timestamps to make it easier to find parts I'm more interested in!
Just a detail--as of when I'm writing this, the description says 600 (instead of 6000?) at around 15 minutes
whew!!! im gonna get on that correction now!!!!
Thank you! I had a thought. How about a Robert Mitchell "Cocktail 101",
with now, the top three cocktails at home, during the end of year weeks.
Favorite vintage car currently, a Porsche 935 dp motorsport slantnose :)
I think for fun we could do some Friday night cocktails!
I have recently come across your channel. I would definitely go E30 i know I am biased towards them as I have an BMW E30 that I am building. Hopefully next year I I'll make it to the ring in it. Keep up the good work.
welcome to the channel vasi, hope to see you in the comments more often!! when you get the 30 to the ring be sure to bring it by.. would love to see it!
@@RobertMitchell I will definitely be around in the comments in the future. Thanks for the invite when I do come to the ring, I will make sure to come by, it would be nice to get your opinion, on the car..
Keep up the good work and all the best.
Have a good Christmas
@@VA5I Merry Christmas to you as well!! looking forward to seeing you out here!
A Schirmer breathed on e30 M3 would quite possibly become my favourite car in your garage if it happens...
I too think it would be amazing!! I have a feeling I want a road e30 tho
@@RobertMitchell Would be equally amazing!
Hi Robert, which of these top speed focused cars do you think you could get a decent lap out of on the Ring? 👍
This is a hard one to gauge.. I think I need some first hand experience to tell you that
@@RobertMitchell Does the Jesko look more of an all round car rather than a one trick pony?
Go for the e30 m3, easily my favourite BMW :)
I too think its a stunner!
Thanks for the great video, great way to start my winter break
have a wonderful Christmas man!!!!
@@RobertMitchell thanks you too
The e30 will be amazing for sure and I agree with making it more street worthy. What's my favorite? Miura SV (however I'll never be able to own one.) I have had a couple 325is e30s and I've actually been missing how fun they were. Any air cooled 911 would be fun as well, not sure how well they do when pushed hard on the ring though.
I can sure say that air cooled lessens the worry of dropping coolant on the track!
@@RobertMitchell yeah but early 911's might make the track wet because of their "interesting handling".
Looking forward to next week's video. Would love to hear how much time and energy you allocate to Apex vs. MC, and how you found that balance.
I will certainly touch on that .. good idea
I drive to the ring 1 or 2 times every year and do a few laps. On the subject of the wet line, it struck me that some, even experienced, drivers do not believe in the wet line and claim that this would be more of a myth, how can that be and what do you think of it?
Find me an experienced driver that finds the wet line to be a myth 🤣. Go look at the f1 guys in road cars sliding around on the dry line.
@@RobertMitchell I also asked myself why some say that... I don't want to mention any names now, but a driver who also drives VLN regularly told me that he never drives the wet line ... I couldn't understand that, but as a beginner I didn't want to say anything.
My „vintage“ choice is a Z3 Coupe 3.0 (E36gen). Love the involvement, love the looks and the way it handles on the track. Will come visit Apex during the SA Perfektionstraining next summer 😎
Can i share teir one media photos on the others platforms?
For sure ;-)
For a street E30 I would take the italian/portugese M3: 320IS. It’s more of a sleeper, the itb’d S14 is inside with more hp/liter but you don’t have the hassle of a homologation special for the body panels if they get scratched or bent.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thanks for making this bad year a little better.
Awesome as usual Robert! Yes do a restomod BMW for yourself. Yes, I agree with you that F5 sounds so delicious, that car could easily be another class of car, Hyper Muscle!
Right on! ill keep you updated the 30 progress :)
Always here early and only koenigsegg has made actual passes
pretty much!
SSC did hold the record before with the Ultimate Aero TT before being dethroned by the Veyron Super Sport
You are such a diplomat Robert, regarding Archie Hamilton.........I will keep my thoughts to myself
Hey,Hamilton is second fastest TH-camr,after Rosberg!! 😉🤣👍
for a classic car i'd probably take an E-type convertible, a ferrari daytona convertible or if we're looking at race/track cars, i'd take an Sierra RS500 and build it to DTM spec
not a bad short list at all!
Yes! Ferrari Daytona spyder!! 😎👌
Hi Robert! With regards to the E30 build: I agree! Lower powered cars with shorter gearing and a lovely handling balance, rather than ultimate traction, are much more enjoyable on the street.
I highly recommend looking at the under-3-liter, narrow-body classic 911s that Tuthill Porsche in the UK build for inspiration. Richard Tuthill is a legend and his company does awesome stuff.
All three looks to be aerodynamically equal. Power+torque=F5
intersting take! I am eager to see them run asap
Respect to Bugatti and I believe they did 304 mph, they honorably said the reason why they didn't go both directions and didn't care to have the official record. My personal opinion, because the producers of the Jesko and F5 have been honorable in the past both will not disappoint in their next attempts. Can't wait to see all the runs though. Truly epic cars for our day!
I agree with you 100% and am so eager to see where this all goes!
Even Bugatti are not truly the car the car are not in a production car Lol..... So they claim their top speed 304mph is really wrong two mistake here from Bugatti :))
M3 stock/modern build👍and tnx for wallpapers, they are beautiful.😎
The e36 gtr build is why im here. Stayed for the nice drinks
Thank you for fixing that bloody spot on the wall behind you haha
🤣🤣🤣 im here for you Stigs
Whant all 3 at the same place at the same day go for it
100-%
hey there robert i found a company that does a "singer" spin on an e30. They are called redux leichtbau.
ill give them a bit of google searching!
Great video Robert! Always enjoy getting your insight!! Btw I’m not trying to be a jerk bc I love ya, but I believe the Jesko is pronounced Yesko.
That's a great idea Robert, that's exactly what I would do with an e30. In my opinion there's no point in trying to turn a 30 year old classic into a competitive track car. I'd make in into the most liveable, fancy and involving car I could.
glad we are on the same page :)
@@RobertMitchell I would be very interrested in the conceptualization. Seeing as the E30's were pretty spartan cars to say the least, there are plenty of oppertunities to evolve the car without corrupting it :D The Singer formula resonates with so many people, and understandably so! I believe the E30 would be a good choice for a treatment like that, it's on the edge though, I would never do it to an e36 but the E21 and E28 althought older, just don't quite have what the E30 has.
I think the fact that the Jesko is crash tested and homologated worldwide, including US, puts it in a category of its own (Or, actually, in the Bugatti category). If inclined, you could use it as your daily driver in California. I think that would be impossible in the F5 or Tuatara.
this I have to agree with as well! I do also have to ask how it makes any difference to the owner of the car however?
Good question. Don’t know exactly how it works, but in many places around the world a customer wouldn’t be able to legally drive their F5 or Tuatara to a cars and coffee? Trailering a hypercar everywhere doesn’t sound fun. 😊
@@fredrikhumlehagen9903 I believe that these cars would fully get registered
@@RobertMitchell Ok, I think you know more about it than I do. 😊
Intelligent approach as allways!
Another great video! Thank you Robert
Love that hennessey is made about an hour from my house but how do you not love the jeasco?! If I could have one it would be the egg for sure
I've watched a few TH-camrs regularly and without being negative given your comments re Archie Hamilton it's all fluff and click bait I've binned them all you are my last man standing fair play to Robert no nonsense reality and damn good insight and advice
What's happening with the e36 with the s54?
goal is next summer now...
@@RobertMitchell Cool! Let's hope you'll allow some passenger laps. That would be incredible.
for a singer like build, i recomend Retropower UK, they have some awesome restomods, check them out. Money no object, i would maybe have a low key modern car, to go in stealth mode, then a shitload of restomods.
I was thinking to do the build ourselves at apex :) we have the knowhow and contacts too!
@@RobertMitchell that would be great, would love to see it. Still, if you don't know them, check out some of their builds, their attention to detail is amazing, and they care about the future of their cars, putting a lot of effort in avoiding them rusting away.
@@RobertMitchell Hey Robert,what about Ferrari 288 GTO,like Singer with 911?? Let's say 308 GTB,with carbon fiber body panels like 288GTO!! Engine block from F40(like David Lee Dino),tuned to 400 hp!! Or engine from 430 scuderia!? Chris Harris said:"give me 288GTO that drives like F40!! 😉👌
So beautiful 288GTO(in Black,or Grey),lite weight with carbon body,no ABS,no traction control!! But with upgrated suspension and brakes!!
Btw,with carbon body panels maybe ask Mate😉!!
Great idea with the M3 to set your own twist on the car. It's you who's going to enjoy the roadtrips and look at the interior. So go for it. ;)
My vintage cars is the Ford Escort RS1600i, RS Turbo, RS2000 and the Escort RS Cosworth. Last one imo one of the most exciting and brutal looking cars of that era. And the ride is phenomenal as well on roadtrips due to the 4wd :)
Favourite vintage cars (among others...): Renault 5 Turbo, Mercedes 190E Evo, Subaru Impreza GC8 Type R, pre'74 Porsche 911. Not to mention supercars such as Countach, F40 and 512 BB...
For top speed, 1 factor is overlooked but really important. High speed stability can be really a blocker, even if they have the power. 500kph+ is no joke. They can try, but they might need to lift off early because the car is not stable enough. (Like SSC admittedly lifted off because of stability issues, but they might have also thought they have the record and it is an easy choice)
Koenigsegg definitely has some advantage here, because they have experience and proven record of high speed stability.
@Andrew Foster Wind is part of stability. Put a huge wing on it, and it will be stable, regardless of wind, but at the cost of top speed.
The challenge is to have both.
I love the e21\e30 ..e21 323 with Bauer top please..bette r power to weight than than the 325..or.or e30 touring love that shape ..and the e28 shnitzer !
Wet track is blessing for tires :)
tires and brakes... and fuel!
I bet as a tier one influencer Robert could get invited to all the speed record trials. We'll see what will happen.
I can only keep my fingers crossed!!!
Before you know it, Christian will buy him pineapple pizza.
@@jonasthemovie I’d take a good Hawaiian from Christian
@@RobertMitchell If you wanna level up, ask for the Bahamas. Pineapple, bananas and a hint of curry spice.
@@RobertMitchell And Hawaiian shirt from Gordon Murray! 😉🤣👌
Please check out JP Performance’s e30 M3 with an entire M4 underbody (axles, ceramic brakes and so on). Wondering what you would think of such a build
Check out Redux leichtbau. They are basicly the singer of bmw m3 e30
You can tell who done the timestamps, Tom Stamp bit of OCD their bro Lmao. Joking brothers and again really truthful of your thoughts thanks. :)
hey hey hey the time stamps were all me on the last two vids hehehe
@@RobertMitchell Lol, Sorry Tom Bro Blame Robert not me. :) I wouldn't even worry about them if people want to skip then maybe they buy a skip button? Lmao, Think about it Apex skip tool, winner winner chicken dinner. :) Have a nice night guys.
@@tooclaws LOL Lee, have a great night man
I'm going for the Königsegg, it's the most trustworthy and premium company in my opinion, SSC lost all their credibility 🙃
they certainly have an uphill battle ahead to prove their product
Me also. :)
All 3 cars, same road, same day...that would be interesting. Will unfortunately never happen but it would be amazing to see the 3 duke it out.
Great weekend to everyone reading this. Tons of health for you and yours ✌🏽🙏🏽
Likewise Jorge!!!! Merry Christmas man!!!
thanks man, likewise :)
@@RobertMitchell thanks, Robert ✌🏽🙏🏽
@@rhabeldibabeldi6812 thanks ✌🏽🙏🏽
Lol, I faught that F5 and tuatara were the same cars 😂 for me the F5 is the most beautiful. (Looks like Tims 675LT 😅) But I think the Jesco will take the crown.
the f5 looks like Tims 657?!?! ive not made that comparison hehe. I too am very eager to see the winner
@@RobertMitchell Yeah,the Spec! Also like Tim's SLS BS 😉
I'm eagerly awaiting that career choice vid you mentioned! I genuinely feel like you're my favourite "TH-camr" rn, you don't give a damn about what anyone else thinks and you say it as it should be said. Listening to your response to our feedback is awesome too and thank YOU for the awesome content! As Tim would say Chee-ee-ee-eers! 😂🥂
thank you Robert for the great video once again. One question for you: Where does the big interest in drag racing in the US come from? In Germany there is rather a small scene. or is that just my wrong perception?
best regards.
Great video as always. Hope to share a beer or cocktail with you one day.
Looking forward to just that!
Hi Robert ! My personal opinion that keep the classics really original/ resored to orinigal, unless you would like to make it a tracktool. I would love to have a mint condition E30 M3 or M535/M5. Perhaps one Day...
I had those thoughts as well but the beauty of an e30 is that I can keep the parts and convert at anytime!
I would really like a consortium of the manufactures to add a couple lanes to the road in Pahrump, and make that the standard. Of course Konnigseg has already said the Jesko is the last speed car they will make.
Very interesting I feel they all know the Risks at these speeds
Hi Robert! Just a tiny tip: try to somewhat separate the questions from each other, because you often flow directly from one question to the next and that sometimes leaves us confused if we don’t catch the change. Could be something as dramatic as a black screen with a number or as little as a short pause with a firm “next question” right after. Thanks.
hahaha nope... not gonna happen :) this is a conversation where we chat around topics back and forth etc. as you see in the time stamps there are many topics within the topics and we cannot bounce around with black screens. I have stated many times that this needs to be simple for me. If Im adding black screens im out
I do thank you for the idea and the comment however!! I hope that you can use the time stamps to get some of the desired results you mention
I think it's great idea to add a classic car to your garage. Would sell my soul for a lap in Porsche 959 on Nurburgring!)
I would love to go around in a 959 too!!!!!
@@RobertMitchell Have you ever driven one by any chance I mean not necessarily on the track? Or perhaps someone you know had? And by the way I know a great recipe for a Bloody Mary if you and Misha interested.