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Special guest, author, teacher, and apologist David Wilber joins us to help explain the ancient Book of Enoch. What is this ancient book and how should it be relevant to believers today?
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If the book of Enoch isn't canon, why did early church fathers such as Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, and Tertullian regard it as scripture? They were closer to the historical events than we are, and some early church fathers knew the original Apostles, including Paul. Why would Jude risk using a source that was not scripturally legitimate to instruct believers? Should we really rely on the Roman Catholic church to determine what should be canon, considering its very questionable history?
Tertullian is the only one who explicitly references Enoch as "Scripture." But I am much more interested in what Christ and the apostles think, and based on the evidence in the NT, they did not consider Enoch to be Scripture. As for Jude's reference to Enoch, I address this in the video, but why should we assume that he regarded it as "scripturally legitimate"? Biblical authors quoted tons of stuff that nobody would consider scripturally legitimate. Paul quoted pagan poets. The psalmists and prophets use material from Egyptian and Mesopotamian literature. They used the material that was familiar to their audience to make a point in the same way that pastors and teachers today might quote popular movies or TV shows. Some movies and TV shows might teach good lessons that align with biblical values, but that doesn't mean we should add Lord of the Rings to the canon. Also, the Roman Catholic church did not come up with the canon-that is simply false.
@@DavidWilberBlog Totally agree Mr Wilber. Well said. Sadly, people will believe what they want to believe not what God tells them clearly in His Word.
@@mimi45945 I agree with that - but I will say, you cant really use the "what God clearly says in His Word" argument here. Because the Bible never ever even hints that the book of Enoch is not scripture. I'm not saying it is scripture, I'm just saying, the Bible never says, clearly or otherwise, whether or not Enoch is scriptural.
@@XIsleTheWanderer Indeed. However, the bible is also clear about "adding" and "taking away" from God,s Word- the consequences of this are clear also- that scares me to be honest.
God bless
@@mimi45945 True. Which is why, to me, it is extremely important we search, and pray for ourselves, to know what is God's Word, and what is not. Not just listening to what someone else has to say about it.
Because what if a book HAD been removed from the Bible that was God inspired? Then we would all be reading the Scriptures with some of it removed. We also have to be extremely careful not to accept something as scripture, so as not to be adding to God's Word.
But either way, I believe the passage you are referring to is in the final chapter of Revelation, referring to adding or removing anything from "this book of prophecy". Not to say there is no consequence for adding or removing from God's Word in general, but the passage reads "And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person’s share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book."
Revelation 22:19
Let me remind all brothers and sisters that the the holy spirit teaches us and leads us to all things GOD wants us to know, brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is our Lord and our Almighty that saves he died on the cross for us , to be honest i followed and believed a lot of Enoch scriptures aswell but the most important thing is to seek and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ because all mysteries are and have been revealed in him.
The Bible seems complete to me. Any conflicts you find in the Bible are due to your lack of belief in an Infinite God! Give your complete heart to God and God will lead you in all ways of righteousness, confession, and forgiveness! We perish due to lack of understanding and we talk about how poweful God is and then deny the power of God! When we deny His power of we become ensnared by that lie. Such as with the masks! Is the virus bigger than your god! If so look UP to the real God! Amen
@formless777 seriously? God is great and infinite! A mustard seed grows into a rather large tree a poppies seed grows into a small flower. I Believe Jesus was showing the contrast between the seed and the result. You are a free person and may believe what you want. And while you insult others to feel big and so so smart I believe in something bigger than myself. That makes me small and you big. Good luck your going to need it when the going gets tough for you. I will lean on God and you will stand alone! While you call me names I will call on the Lord! You are much smarter than me. Thanks for sharing!
@formless777 We all do evil acts by different levels but yet we justify them sometime as good or needed, I have gone tru demoniac experiences all my life and know now that truly that Christ makes all these things go away and bring peace and clear up the atmosphere of Darkness, who is mark twain when faced with forces that make objects in your house fall or thrown? Who is mark twain but a flesh based mindly knowledge teacher of understanding what is known by the demensions of what the mind can comprehend and be taught by that is in creation? Yet GOD created creation and all things applicable to the flesh mind , Yet GOD stands outside of Creation in Eternity and with flesh based understanding of the brains capablity do we want to challenge higher ways of understanding? Wisdom , knowledge, intellingence, insight, thinking and the brain itself which is created of Dust has been made by GOD and yet somehow we question ? But ofcourse this is freewill you can choose freely what you want to do and believe and accept.
@@Libertarian100000000 Jerry, seriously! Thatbis nog the response of a Christian. We don't put down or attack people who don't know the truth. As a person who does Jerry, are you leading the person above to Christ or pushing him further away. You may be the only person this non believer encounters in his lifetime. Would you please at least pray and ask God to show you the answers you need.
@formless777 It is sad to read how angry you are inside. That is not a put down. It is one person's observation. You are comparing a mustard seed from 2,000 years ago to what today we call a mustard seed. Seeds have been genetically engineered since the 1940's. The flower poppy seed is not what id spoken of in the Holy Bible. One is a flower the other a tree. There are no contradictions in the Bible. I once thought so too, so I bought a better Bible and a Strong's Concordance. Remember the Bible was translated into old English, then to English. Today we have a much better understanding of the languages the Bible was written in. Archeologists are still finding copies of original books and letters we call books today. The translations were accurate. Our knowledge of the ancient languages was not for as long time. If you could read it being filled with the Holy Spirit you would be able to understand what you did not initially understand.
James 1:5 Brothers and sisters, I pray you receive wisdom and blessings in these last days. God bless us all 🕊❤️🙏
So many questions. It's hard to debate.
Just ask God when we are all in heaven.
Couldn't have said it better..
Amen
KJV Has Prophets that speaks of missing Scriptures & Books.
Joshua.10:13 is this not written in the book of Jasher ?
(Jasher taken out)
2.Sam.1:18 written in the Book of Jasher.
(Jasher taken out)
1.Chron.29:29
Book of Samuel the Seer
(1 Sam.& 2.Sam.)
Book of Nathan,
Book of Gad.
Nathan & Gad Taken out.
2.Chron.9:29 written in the Book of Nathan the prophet,and in prophesy of Ahijah and visions of Iddo.
2.Chron.12:15 are they not written in the Book of Sheaiah the prophet and
Iddo the seer.
(Sheaiah & Iddo
taken out of KJV)
2.Chron.13:22 written the prophet Iddo.
2.Chron.16:11 written in the story of Iddo...
2.Chron.20:34 written in Book of Jehu
2.Chron.33:19 written in the sayings of the seers..
Jude quoted from the book of Enoch..
Jude.1:14
LORD will come back with ten thousand of His saints..
@@tomgeorge3023 I’m so confused, can you explain more ?? Why aren’t they in the Bible !? Why is the book of Enoch not in the Bible ??
@@tovah8841
KJV1611 had the Book
of Enoch..
Catholic church fathers took out Books called
the Scriptures...
Did you even read the scriptures I gave ??
Jude.1:14 quoted from
Enoch 1:9 ..
The LORD will come back ..
Book of Jasher .
Joshua.10:13, &
2.Sam.1:18
Written in the Book of Jasher...
Are you being honest? This book has always been in the Ethiopian bible. Always. And it resonates today with me and with many other Christians today
Hey Gerri. It's true that the Ethiopian Church includes 1 Enoch in their canon, making it the only Christian community that holds 1 Enoch in such a high regard. However, what a lot of people don’t know is that the Ethiopian Church has a much more liberal and fluid concept of “canon” than the rest of Christianity. For instance, while 1 Enoch is included in some canons of the Ethiopian Church, it is excluded in others. In 1983, the Ethiopian Orthodox Holy Synod produced a paper called “A Short History, Faith, and Order of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church” where they provide a list of the “Holy Books of the Old Testament.” 1 Enoch is not included in this list. Not only is the Ethiopian canon fluid, but also apparently not all books included in their canon hold the same level of authority. This could perhaps be compared to how the Apocrypha is viewed within Eastern Orthodoxy-while it is part of the canon, it is generally considered to be of somewhat lower authority than the rest of the Bible. Having said all that, the Ethiopian canon appears to be an unreliable standard of what ought to be considered "Scripture." I'd rather go with Messiah's definition of Scripture, which excluded 1 Enoch. Hope that helps!
@@DavidWilberBlog the east and the west is legaly divided but united by the blood of JESUS.go with your scriptures that excludes Enoch , we cant we just can not . we are natural for GODD you are just called 2000 years ago thru the BLOOD OF THE LAM wich is so holy and also our hope. i do not want loose the oneness of the HOLY SPIRIT by debate , but i say to you go with what you beleive !!!!! WE ARE SEMMITES WE HAVE EXTERA DUTY LAID ON US BY GODD WE ARE ALWAYS THE SUPPRESED ONES BY THE LORD YET HE CAME THRU US TO REACH THE WORLD, WE HAVE COUNTLESS OTHERS ABOUT HIM IF WRITE THEM THE WORLD CANT CARRY THE BOOKS. and you my eastern fellow always learn from the HEAD not from the Tail.
you jews are you not likeethiopians for ME ,!!, says the LORD ,,,, we ev done what the jews done we recieved what the jews recieved : curse&blessings.
The book of Enoch is also quoted in the bible.
albert einstein study book of enoch
Enoch 71: 11 ; and I fell on my face and my whole body melted and my spirit was transformed and I cried with a loud voice in the spirit of power and I blessed and glorify and exalted. Now I'm going to read Psalms chapter 22: 14; 15; And I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint my heart is like Wax it is melted in the midst of my bowels my strength is dried up like potsherd and my tongue clings to my jaws and thou has brought me into the dust of death. It appears that Enoch is prophesied just like the author in the book of Psalms, and in the book of Jude where he's quoting Enoch Enoch walked with God he not is a person that actually walk with God in Scripture says that in the book of Acts where it talk about the poets they didn't prophesy he just told them your own poets have said that we are offsprings the poet was not prophesied he was just writing about an unknown God and that was Paul's opportunity to let them know about this God the creator of the heaven and the Earth the same one that Enoch was talking about. I disagree with you 100%.
The Messiah straight up calls Enoch "Scriptures" in Matthew 22.
@@svenshanah Respectfully, I think you may have the wrong chapter? Idk but Matthew 22 does not mention Enoch at all. Can you please clarify? Thank you.
@@svenshanah ???...
Yeshua said he was sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, (Matthew 15:24)...
Paul writes that we're supposed to be grafting back into Israel, (Romans11:17-27)...
Enoch was taken, and HE WAS NOT (H369 'ayin-to cease to exist) before the deluge (Genesis5:24), before there ever was an Israel (Genesis32:28).. it's spurious... if anything, James Bruce quoted the 1611KJV Bible while transcribing the various fragments into Ge'ez...
James Bruce was a Fr33m@son, fluent in 11 languages including Ge'ez... the 1611KJV is the Fr33m@sons altar Bible, as King James stepped into the light, 1601... the 1611KJV is the first english translation that numbers the saints of Jude 14 at 'tenne thousandes' matching 1 Enoch 1:9... the previous english translations did not number the saints, except to say 'thousands' or 'myriads'...
It's listed, in over 20 different Bible Encyclopedia and Dictionaries that I personally own, as psuedepigraphal. That means they have no idea who wrote it... do you know who wrote it?
@@hiddenonfathersmountain Do you have a point ma'am? With all that you wrote, I have no idea what it is you would like me to take from it, or what it is targeted at.
Shalom
@@hiddenonfathersmountain 🙄🤤You're wrong ma'am.
NEXT?!🤷♂
I believe the book of Enoch as truth. Just because a pastor said it wasn’t inspired doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held in scrutiny
We’re do you get a copy of the Book of Enoch, if you don’t mind sharing...
Monica Kavanaugh Cepher as far as I know
@@monicakavanaugh8032 Google it, it is available online...
Monica Kavanaugh _ check out the link in the description to purchase a copy
@@FoundedInTruth bujajajajaja
Thanks David for shedding light and explaining the Book of Enoch. Thanks, Founded in Truth for hosting Mr. David Wilbur.
I asked God and He said not to read it, that it wasn't biblical. I wanted to make sure and found this video, thank you, makes sense.
The voice is in your head. Enoch is 100% bang on
You might want to get the other side of the story from those who've spent way more time researching Enoch than this guy. This guy "learned" about Enoch from thos who instructed him.
Try InHisWord2 youtube channel.
Just because Enoch prophesied doesn’t mean he had a book. Deborah and Huldah were prophetesses of God, but they don’t have a book.
The truht is The Most High did not die and put you in charge. Enoch was one of the greatest prophet ever we'll see on judgement what The Most High has to you for mocking a prophet that he considered soo perfect that he took him.
Since Enoch was taken before Israel ever existed (Genesis 5:24)...
And our King was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew15:24)...
& We're trying to be graffed back into Israel (Romans 11:16-27)...
How does 1enoch help shepherd sheep back under Covenant Law? He was taken before the Covenant was established!?!
I love the Book of Enoch.
Helps me understand the Bible.
The Bible should help you understand the book of Enoch
The Holy Spirit will help you understand the bible.
The book of enoch has lies in it. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Look up david middleton on TH-cam. He exposes the false books. The Holy Spirit will lead and guide you into all truth. God bless you.
@@K-Wiles the book of enoch goes into detail about things the book of Genesis just glances over- the giants, the sons of God, the nephilim, etc. that's what the guy is talking about.
It helped me too
The book of Enoch opened my spiritual eyes to many things. My favourite truth is the book of the watcher's. I think this is the reason why the forces of darkness manipulates and make us think that the book of Enoch is not true because their request for forgiveness was denied. Satan and his minions truth is completely exposed and they dont WANT to be seen as useless. many more people across the world will be saved only if they read that chapter in the book of Enoch
Check it with scripture. Book of Enoch contradicts scripture a lot. Be careful the book is a false doctrine
@@f1nesseshot683 Hundreds of verses and passages IN the bible contradict other verses and passages IN the bible. Wake up and do better research.
@@keisi1574 example
@@f1nesseshot683 hello I'm French
My English is Not pretty Good
Do you have some exemple about differents please thanks
It's part of the Gnostic Gospels and definitely not from God.
Salvation is Acts 2:38
I would assume that if it was supposed to be included, than God would have made sure of it. The book of Jude rises a point of contention as it references Enoch, and the argument could be made that if Enoch isn't legitimate, than why is it mentioned and why did Jude reference it as opposed to saying something else? I think it stands above all else that, God would have had it kept in the Bible if it was truly legitimate. I believe that we have all that we need in the Bible.
No, where in the Bible does it say there is a book of Enoch, or the chronicles of Enoch etc. . They quote him - that’s it. That’s a big difference!
I read all of Enoch years ago, and just recently again. It contradicts the Bible in too many places AND is very (Greek) Hellenistic, in style, “if” it’s supposed to be dated much earlier.
Hello People, please be advised, no school or degree can teach you about the spirit, it comes to you. Trust no one who goes to school for it
Spirit told us the book is a farce.
@@FoundedInTruth, Your spirit seems to be tunnel-visioned because Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge [of My law, where I reveal My will].
Because you [the priestly nation] have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you from being My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children. Amplified Bible
@@SifisoJcooler Book of Enoch is GNOSTIC. Comes from the Gnostic gospels and texts of Alexandria Egypt and KABBALAH. OCCULT KNOWLEDGE. RUN AND RUN FAST!
@@DiscernmentNow no its Not Egyptian. It was written in Hebrew and preserved in Ethiopian manuscripts. Do your research before you comment
@@SifisoJcooler, destroyed for lack of knowledge involves the Torah, not Enoch. One simple way a person of antiquity would judge a message is based on what the two commanded kings have to say on the matter.
The first king wrote Torah by direction, the second a perfect witness.
Deuteronomy 33:3-5 (KJV) 3 Yea, he loved the people; all his saints [are] in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; [every one] shall receive of thy words. 4 Moses commanded us a law, [even] the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob. 5 And he was king in Jeshurun, when the heads of the people [and] the tribes of Israel were gathered together.
* who said...
Deuteronomy 32:16-18 (KJV) 16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange [gods], with abominations provoked they him to anger. 17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new [gods that] came newly up, whom your fathers feared not. 18 Of the Rock [that] begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
* devils, same word in Hebrew for demons, are fake gods of the nations. And the second king prophet witness seconds this notion...
Psalms 106:28-29 (KJV) 28 They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor, and ate the sacrifices of the dead. 29 Thus they provoked [him] to anger with their inventions: and the plague brake in upon them.
* joining themselves to the lord of Peor who is invention.
Psalms 106:35-39 (KJV) 35 But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works. 36 And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them. 37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils, 38 And shed innocent blood, [even] the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood. 39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.
*human inventions. And a satan? How else are you to rise above, less you become more deeply mired in your sins? Or like a dog to vomit.
1 Timothy 1:20 (KJV)
Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
1 Corinthians 5:5 (KJV)
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
* and what did king Job’s family and friends say of the controversy conversed of throughout his book? In the end they had to agree with Job.
Job 42:11 (KJV) Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
* the world takes a message about an earthly king who was a sun god king, “bright”, turned convert, to be about supreme, other worldly, evil, but the “Golden Head” , Nebuchadnezzar, points to who is in control of every generation.
Daniel 4:1-3 (KJV) 1 Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you. 2 I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me. 3 How great [are] his signs! and how mighty [are] his wonders! his kingdom [is] an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion [is] from generation to generation.
Daniel 4:17 (KJV) This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
* a cherubim is rode across the sky by God, is described as a type of “chariot” by the prophets, and, is a Hebrew word fore throne. Makes sense that Gods Throne on earth, itself, is made of two cherubims facing one another in council. It’s called the “Mercy Seat”.
A long suffering God would have it we learn from our satans and come forward in truth.
Enoch ch 48 1. In that place I beheld a fountain of righteousness, which never failed, encircled by many springs of wisdom. Of these all the thirsty drank, and were filled with wisdom, having their habitation with the righteous, the elect, and the holy.
2. In that hour was this Son of man invoked before the Lord of spirits, and his name in the presence of the Ancient of days.
3. Before the sun and the signs were created, before the stars of heaven were formed, his name was invoked in the presence of the Lord of spirits. A support shall he be for the righteous and the holy to lean upon, without falling; and he shall be the light of nations.
4. He shall be the hope of those whose hearts are troubled. All, who dwell on earth, shall fall down and worship before him; shall bless and glorify him, and sing praises to the name of the Lord of spirits.
5. Therefore the Elect and the Concealed One existed in his presence, before the world was created, and for ever.
6. In his presence he existed, and has revealed to the saints and to the righteous the wisdom of the Lord of spirits; for he has preserved the lot of the righteous, because they have hated and rejected this world of iniquity, and have detested all its works and ways, in the name of the Lord of spirits.
7. For in his name shall they be preserved; and his will shall be their life. In those days shall the kings of the earth and the mighty men, who have gained the world by their achievements, 1 become humble in countenance.
8. For in the day of their anxiety and trouble their souls shall not be saved; and they shall be in subjection to those whom I have chosen.
9. I will cast them like hay into the fire, and like lead into the water. Thus shall they burn in the presence of the righteous, and sink in the presence of the holy; nor shall a tenth part of them be found.
10. But in the day of their trouble, the world shall obtain tranquillity.
11. In his presence shall they fall, and not be raised up again; nor shall there be any one to take them out of his hands, and to lift them up: for they have denied the Lord of spirits, and his Messiah. The name of the Lord of spirits shall be blessed.
SO WHERE DID ENOCH CALL HIMSELF THE MESSIAH?
I have not found enoch calling himself the Messiah in any part of his book. What is this guy talking about in this video? And he claims to be a teacher?
Copperdog I think you need to reread. In verse one it speaks how Enoch was taken to the heavens before the Lord of spirits. From first 2 to11 it describes everything that he saw. Verse 12 the angel is introducing the Lord of spirits. He confirmed this in the last scripture.
Copperdog 1. And it came to pass after this that my spirit was translated And it ascended into the heavens: And I saw the holy sons of God. They were stepping on flames of fire: Their garments were white [and their raiment], And their faces shone like snow.
2. And I saw two streams of fire, And the light of that fire shone like hyacinth, And I fell on my face before the Lord of Spirits.
3. And the angel Michael [one of the archangels] seized me by my right hand, And lifted me up and led me forth into all the secrets, And he showed me all the secrets of righteousness.
4. And he showed me all the secrets of the ends of the heaven, And all the chambers of all the stars, and all the luminaries, Whence they proceed before the face of the holy ones.
5. And he translated my spirit into the heaven of heavens, And I saw there as it were a structure built of crystals, And between those crystals tongues of living fire.
(Revelation 21:10-11), (Acts 2:3)
6. And my spirit saw the girdle which girt that house of fire, And on its four sides were streams full of living fire, And they girt that house.
7. And round about were Seraphin, Cherubic, and Ophannin: And these are they who sleep not And guard the throne of His glory.
(2 Kings 19:15), (Psalm 80:1), (Psalm 99:1), (Isaiah 37:16)
8. And I saw angels who could not be counted, A thousand thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand, Encircling that house. And Michael, and Raphael, and Gabriel, and Phanuel, And the holy angels who are above the heavens, Go in and out of that house.
(Revelation 5:11)
9. And they came forth from that house, And Michael and Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel, And many holy angels without number.
10. And with them the Head of Days, His head white and pure as wool, And His raiment indescribable.
(Isaiah 6:1-5), (Daniel 7:9, 13)
11. And I fell on my face, And my whole body became relaxed, And my spirit was transfigured; And I cried with a loud voice, . . . with the spirit of power, And blessed and glorified and extolled.
12. And these blessings which went forth out of my mouth were well pleasing before that Head of Days.
13. And that Head of Days came with Michael and Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel, thousands and ten thousands of angels without number.
14. And he (i.e. the angel) came to me and greeted me with His voice, and said unto me ‘ This is the Son of Man who is born unto righteousness, And righteousness abides over him, And the righteousness of the Head of Days forsakes him not.’
(Daniel 7:13), (Jeremiah 33:15), (The Book of Enoch 62:1-2)
15. And he said unto me: ‘ He proclaims unto thee peace in the name of the world to come; For from hence has proceeded peace since the creation of the world, And so shall it be unto thee for ever and for ever and ever.
16. And all shall walk in his ways since righteousness never forsaketh him: With him will be their dwelling-places, and with him their heritage, And they shall not be separated from him for ever and ever and ever.
(Psalm 85:11-13)
17. And so there shall be length of days with that Son of Man, And the righteous shall have peace and an upright way In the name of the Lord of Spirits for ever and ever.’
@@Djcanhandleit how can I contact you brother?
I like your view.. And I believe also in the entire book of Enoch.
@@bolpeensamp . And these blessings which went forth out of my mouth were well pleasing before that Head of Days. 13. And that Head of Days came with Michael and Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel, thousands and ten thousands of angels without number.
14. And he (i.e. the angel) came to me and greeted me with His voice, and said unto me:
'This is the Son of Man who is born unto righteousness;p. 95
And righteousness abides over him,
And the righteousness of the Head of Days forsakes him not.'
15. And he said unto me:
'He proclaims unto thee peace in the name of the world to come;
For from hence has proceeded peace since the creation of the world,
And so shall it be unto thee for ever and for ever and ever.
It says "This is" not "You are"
Ok but Jude said that Enoch prophesied what he quoted. So this tells me Jude actually believed that Book of Enoch was actually written by Enoch himself. If Enoch quoted the book that he should know to be extra biblical, why did he say Enoch “prophesied”? I know book of Enoch we have today was forged and the original one was just gone
Yes, he forgot to see this. Jude came from the during the time of Jesus, and it existed back then.
Can you confirm the "book of Enoch" Jude used, is the same you are reading today? It's a 2000 year-old difference. 2ndly, Paul quotes secular authors in some of his writing, and certainly their writings were not and are not considered God inspired.
If name of Enoch is written in the Bible, Enoch's literature was there and is true.
But it doesn't mean that Enoch 1,2,3 what we see now is real. May be a big thing to think is that if Enoch's writings were truly preserved, they would have been in Bible.
But Enoch's writings are not present in Bible so correct writings are not present.
But in Bible if Enoch's name is written then he might have written which are lost or to be found.
“Prophesied” doesn’t necessarily mean “divinely inspired”. Also just because Jude thought a particular sentence the book of enoch to be particularly pithy, doesn’t mean the thing isn’t fictional.
Exactly
I'm glad I watched this.... That one reason alone that Book of Enoch doesn't recognize Jesus as the Messiah, is already falsehood.
Nope, I finished reading all 3 books today... and Enoch never mentioned he is the messiah. He did mention another figure, which is very close to description of Christ. The vid is the author`s own interpration and analysis. He did a good job in that but doesn`t mean all his results are the fact.
Jesus is a Lord God as is Elohim and Yahweh! and then ALMIGHTY GOD THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH!
There are different versions and translations of Enoch. Most of them say he Saw the son of man and a very small amount of them say he is the son of man.
I agree some people are doing everything to question ones faith
Very informative video; however, I was curious about the Paul the part. Paul resided in Greece when he took his trips there to preach. I do not see a conflict if you are physically living somewhere and are inspired or touched by the culture. Next Enoch, the book of Enoch to me is a further explanation on his personal experience with God. We do not question the authenticity of John in the book of revelations and his experience in heaven. The book of Enoch goes into greater and deeper detail. I did not process Enoch stating his was the son of the man. I processed that as a reward he was given a high ranking position. On the other side of God, Jesus, the holy spirit, along with Abraham, Lazarus, Moses, Noah and others. The book of Enoch, Jasper or the Apocrypha are not easy reads. There are certain bible editions that reference to Jasper, the Apocrypha and the book of Enoch. I believe all believers and researchers should have these books along with everyone in the bible, another book. That's a book that gives details about everyone good or bad in the bible. God Bless
I agree. Only 1 translation reads that way. Most translations of 1 Enoch 71:14 read that he was SHOWN the messiah.
Even the new translation is often interpreted to be Enoch brought before the presence of God and told that the messiah is within him and within all. Things like The Trinity are complicated concepts. Many people are afraid of complicated things.
Do you mean the Book of Jasher? I tried looking up the Book of Jasper because I thought it was one I hadn't heard of yet, but all I found was the Book of Jasher. I have that and it's as informative as 1 Enoch.
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I assume Jasher too.
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KJV Has Prophets that speaks of missing Scriptures & Books.
Joshua.10:13 is this not written in the book of Jasher ?
(Jasher taken out)
2.Sam.1:18 written in the Book of Jasher.
(Jasher taken out)
1.Chron.29:29
Book of Samuel the Seer
(1 Sam.& 2.Sam.)
Book of Nathan,
Book of Gad.
Nathan & Gad Taken out.
2.Chron.9:29 written in the Book of Nathan the prophet,and in prophesy of Ahijah and visions of Iddo.
2.Chron.12:15 are they not written in the Book of Sheaiah the prophet and
Iddo the seer.
(Sheaiah & Iddo
taken out of KJV)
2.Chron.13:22 written the prophet Iddo.
2.Chron.16:11 written in the story of Iddo...
2.Chron.20:34 written in Book of Jehu
2.Chron.33:19 written in the sayings of the seers..
Jude quoted from the book of Enoch..
Jude.1:14
LORD will come back with ten thousand of His saints..
@@tomgeorge3023 I'm not disputing that. I own the Book of Jasher. I was just trying to clarify if that is what was meant by the Book of Jasper. I was asking if there was also a Book of Jasper in addition to the Book of Jasher, or if they were just getting the name wrong. At this point, I'm pretty sure they just got the name wrong.
and this is why i read the comments before i even listen to some of you lol.
I think the book of Enoch has a lot to teach about ancient times and I thinks it's true
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@@FoundedInTruth lmao! what do you think will happen when posting a link with no title or purpose? I mean you are to lazy to add title and purpose but at the same time you want others to take the time to watch another video. No one will click it, just because of your selfrightous ignorance.
I don’t agree with him but, I clicked it. So...
Hahaha. I didn't click it. I just can't stand his voice. It sounds like the church lady from SNL. "Well now, isn't that special."
@@pard2397 wouldn't have clicked on link...but 4your comment 😁👍
New sub thanks! Very enlightening!
Welcome!
hey pls make a video fully about the conflict between enoch and the new testament 🙂🙂
At least we all know and can agree that we know nothing.
True
Then your comment here is a pure waste of time.
I know God preserved His Word in the KJV
God is good
well done!! thank u
Thank you for this
This man is just trying to explain his own understanding without asking or debating with Enoch book readers
They always do. "Professing themselves wise, they become foolish". Ive put many uncountable hours into The Bible as well as Enoch and The Testaments of The Twelve Patriarchs and its astounding how they all agree if read in Spirit and not carnal intellectual blindness.
So, all the people that came before us who were following Jesus and reading all these books in the Spirit were somehow fooled? But not you guys….ok, got it.
@@rightsidecrossrev Oh so you just believe other people instead of proving for yourself? "Test the spirits, whether they be of GOD".... "He that answers a matter before hearing it, it is folly to him".... Try reading it in The Spirit yourself and if you be a man of Faith The Holy Spirit will reveal to you personally.
Exactly!
New Testament quotes from Enoch.1:9
Jude.1:14 The LORD will come back with Ten thousand of His saints....
KJV Has Prophets that speaks of missing Scriptures & Books.
Joshua.10:13 is this not written in the book of Jasher ?
(Jasher taken out)
2.Sam.1:18 written in the Book of Jasher.
(Jasher taken out)
1.Chron.29:29
Book of Samuel the Seer
(1 Sam.& 2.Sam.)
Book of Nathan,
Book of Gad.
Nathan & Gad Taken out.
2.Chron.9:29 written in the Book of Nathan the prophet,and in prophesy of Ahijah and visions of Iddo.
2.Chron.12:15 are they not written in the Book of Sheaiah the prophet and
Iddo the seer.
(Sheaiah & Iddo
taken out of KJV)
2.Chron.13:22 written the prophet Iddo.
2.Chron.16:11 written in the story of Iddo...
2.Chron.20:34 written in Book of Jehu
2.Chron.33:19 written in the sayings of the seers..
Jude quoted from the book of Enoch..
Jude.1:14
LORD will come back with ten thousand of His saints..
"There's some fringe groups on the internet that actually advocate that 1 Enoch....ought to be considered inspired Scripture."
Yeah, man. The Ethiopian church has been pushing this idea about the book of Enoch being canon on reddit since the 1st century AD. Rumor has it was Ethiopian eunuch who made the first post about it on r/Christianity.
Rumor also has it that Reddit has been around since the 1st century AD.
Sorry, but the idea that the Ethiopian canon includes 1 Enoch and therefore considered it Scripture is way overly simplistic. This issue was addressed in the follow-up video linked in the description of this one. Hope it helps!
@@DavidWilberBlog Well said. In its simplistic form those who believe angels can procreate are blaspheming Jesus Christ who was the only one created with the HOLY Spirit and woman (Mary).
There is one sin that is not forgiven and that is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
I trust God’s word.I trust God not men.❤️✝️❤️
Fringe? We'll on judgement when Messiah tells you are spit for mocking one of the greatest prophets that ever lived
Let's just say ALOT of truth in the book of enoch! Wake up and start researching family, shalom
Enoch walked with God and didn't taste death , for God found him to be very righteous , and Enoch should be greatly respected.
different enoch
Sometimes I think that's why the Book of Enoch is discredited because it shows how he was righteous and how he was close to goddess he gave up everything else in the world you know humans today don't want to do that they want to hold on to some semblance of security and remain lukewarm
@@Whyyy_Kayy... that's what i am saying , this man was born seventh from adam , his book was in bible until it was removed around 400 AD , yet many don't even consider to even think of reading the book just because what ,,, scholars. I have read it and im telling you the book is filled with scriptures about JESUS coming and much more.
@@idaro100 It mentions nothing of the "beginning of sorrows" or the 4 horsemen and their riders which are the first 4 seals opened by jesus christ - the judgements of God on a world that refuse to turn to HIM.
I understand why this book is not Biblical- everyone ends up Idolising the book and enoch.
@@mimi45945 im not idolising Enoch , im just saying that he should be respected, this is not salvation issue to read the book of enoch , we only need Jesus but nothing wrong with honoring people who loved God.
Definitely? You are 100% sure? Enoch WALKED and talked with GOD For years and then "was taken by God". He's not the messiah! Just righteous! God Bless.
Dont you mean he was taken by aliens
JAY TAYLOR, This I believe
Jesus said no man has seen His Father. It is interesting that so many books in the canon that they spoke and talked audibly with this God.
@@kmljames He talks all the time. Are we listening?
The guy in the video is a New Testament shill who is altering history to validate the NT. He's a fool.
I've read the book of Enoch, and never came across that quote that said that he was the Messiah 🤔. Also it's stranged for you to say that the book of Enoch was not inspired by God, even though Jude said that Enoch "Prophesied". I would want to believe that if a holy ghost inspired writer ( and remember that all scriptures a written with inspiration from God) quoted a prophecy from another source, it must have been a credible source, wherw being inspired by God is concerned.
They took it out along with other books, so that we couldn't find out what happened and what's really going on in this world, I'm glad u caught on to the very same things I did lol, peace
For real bro, cause there are other names mentioned in the Bible that you don't see anywhere else in the Bible, and have to go back to the foundation ( meaning Jewish literature, since Christianity came from Judaism) to get details about these things.
When I See so many people bad mouth the Books of Enoch, It makes me want to read it more cuz I’ve learned the most impacting truths of the world & universe are trying to be kept secret from us all.
Smh
@@duaneninjaray So true
Ty for this I was tempted to quote from it when witnessing which would be very dangerous
thankyou so much for this video! These days you hear so much of enoch, and it truly is fascinating! But if it truly isn't scripture and doesn't align with the truth then we should take it with a grain of salt then!
Don't forget to check out David's follow up video HERE:
th-cam.com/video/aoVFVPzjAMU/w-d-xo.html
Europeans lotted it from Ethiopia
It is engraved in the mind of modern day christians that only 66 books exist where in fact, there are more than 80 books! This guy is crazy!
actually there is about 81 books in the ethiopia orthodox church which is the only church that the book of enoch was found and the very earliest churches which is unfilitered because ethiopian wasnt colonized
Chris Eggleton where are you getting that from?
Charles Hermann ?!
@@themodernalchemist7140 Whore of Babylon is Catholic church started by Simon Magus the Babylonian who tried ot but the Holy Spirit in Acts 8?
Magus had learned magic, sorcery and spirit cooking in Bbaylon before meeting the disciples.
When he was spurned he went up to Rome, set himself up as a preacher and with the aid of demons convinced peopel he was a god.
This is the real history of the Catholic Scarlet Whore of Babylon - it literally follows Babylonian occult worship of Venus they call Ishtar and the sun they call Baal.
Look at Catholicchurches to see how they are aligned to the sun.
-Keep on being truthful and faithful to the Lord, seek understanding and knowledge of the word of God. Be strong, have compassion and intimacy with the Lord. -God is with you, you do not have to fear. Pray, read your bible and let him work, he will never leave you, obey his words and talk to him. Seek Christ, seek the truth. Flee from sin and truly try. Jesus loves you.
Ethiopian Christian Church has Enoch's book officially as part of their Bible
Yes, and most of Ethiopia accepts Yeshua as the Messiah. Therefore Wilber must explain why in Ethiopia, where many of the clergy still read and speak in Ge'ez, there has not been any controversy about the fact that Enoch is called "son of man [who was] born for righteousness". Maybe they understand that "son of man" just simply means "human being". Psalm 8:4 says "What is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man that You visit him?" Is the Psalmist wondering why the Messiah is visited by YHVH? Of course not! It is expressing reverent wonder at the fact that such a lofty and mighty Elohiym pays attention to humble and lowly humankind! The same phrase "ben-Adam" is used in Ezekiel 2:1 and Psalm 115:16.
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Enoch means dedicated. Enoch walked with God. Hence dedicated walk with God.
Acid much?
Everyone fighting and arguing over whether or not the book of Enoch is scripture or not.....what would God think? It doesn't really matter. He doesn't want any of us arguing or wasting time on such. He wants us spending time loving one another and lifting one another up and spreading the good news and the gospel and that INCLUDES the book of Enoch. Praise God for His greatness and ALL that He does for us including His wondrous miracles, new mercy each and every morning and of course most of all His neverending unconditional love that goes without measure. May He bless each and every one of you and your friends and family 💕. Praise God 🙏
Thank you!!!
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Discernment. That will reveal the truth. Seeking Gods guidance seems to be missing in most of the comments. John 8:32 and 1John 4:4 come to mind
Sooo someone who was inspired by god mentions a book which is said to have been biblical is not inspired by god ???? They’re just using it to polish the word of god?? Am sorry but this is one of the worst counter counter arguments I’ve heard so far .... not satisfied
Not all people struggle with intricate and esoteric concepts, nor do they consider them uninspired by God for lacking simplicity.
Look at the Trinity, for example.
I believe David Wilbur is referring to the, very modern, Hermeneia translation of 1 Enoch 71:14 : "And the Head of Days came with Michael and Raphael and Gabriel and Phanuel.......“You are that Son of Man who was born for righteousness, and righteousness dwells on you". This follows the lengthy explanation of The Messiah, the Son of Man.
If that is to be believed, then Enoch was shown visions of the Messiah, and didn't recognize himself! Is that the case?
Could it be a more, "I am he as you are he and you are me", sort of thing?
Then there are many older translations that do not make this claim. For example, the Edwardian R. H. Charles translation reads the entire story in 3rd person. Instead, Enoch is taken into the presence of God and shown the Messiah, “This is the Son of Man".
2 Enoch is mostly about Enoch”s ascent into the celestial realm and to his heavenly metamorphosis near the Throne of God. 3 Enoch mentions the Angel Metatron. In the Babylonian Talmud and in Kabbalistic texts, Enoch becomes the Angel Metatron and sits beside God (much like Jesus).
However, there was an earlier Angel Metatron which means that Enoch would be a new, or combined, emanation of the same Angel.
This stuff is not basic. Some texts indicate that the Son of Man is reflected by Enoch. He is to be like Enoch, in his earthly form.
In the Prayer of Joseph , Jacob is depicted as the Angel Israel when he wrestles with Uriel all night. He is, and yet he is not. The Book of Daniel has the Ancient of Days and the One who is like Man. The Septuagint reads that the son of man gained access to the Ancient of Days and was brought before that one.
I understand why a simplistic belief in God and the heavens is needed. Goodness knows, places like the USA, are packed with fools who call themselves Christians whist shooting each other and refusing to help the needy, poor and immigrants as if even Matthew 25:31-46 is too difficult for them to understand!
I understand that the idea of multiple presences and multiple trinities (or more) are not necessary for the bare bones of Gods message and may be a bit much for many. But not everyone.
Thank you for posting.
In the USA, D-eceivers love to play the "help the poor and immigrants" card to win more votes. They are establishing Satanic strongholds in America's inner cities using propaganda, drugs, black magic, etc. Sorry if this seems like too much of a tangent but I felt inspired to clarify that.
Enjoyed your post, btw. God bless
I feel your analyzing scripture in the carnal rather than in the spiritual
Sorry for your luck brother I wish you the best I'll pray for you 🙏❤️🙏❤️ amen
Yeah i don't get it. I didn't like the video to say the least.
Awesome explanation brother. Thanx, and God bless
Thanks, William!
Nice video brother....
Thanks
What is your interpretation of Matthew 22:29-30 and Mark 12:24-25. We don’t have any scripture in the canon that explains this about angels, but we do in extra-biblical writings (like Enoch 15:6-7), and many believe Yahshua was referencing Enoch here. If so, he deems it scripture.
Regarding Matthew 22:29, the Sadducees' goal was to ridicule the idea of the resurrection in light of the Levirate marriage law (Deut. 25:5-10), which they thought created an impossible dilemma for the woman in their hypothetical question. Yeshua responded by accusing the Sadducees of knowing neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. First, He explains the nature of the resurrection, which addresses their dilemma, and then He gives a Scriptural response to the fact of the resurrection. Notice that He actually cites which Scriptures He’s referring to in verse 32 when He quotes Exodus 3:6. So there’s no reason to assume He’s alluding to 1 Enoch when He references “Scripture”-He quotes the very Scriptures He's talking about in the very passage! Also, the idea of our resurrected bodies being like the angels isn’t limited to 1 Enoch but part of a broader Jewish discussion concerning the nature of the resurrection (e.g., 2 Baruch 51:10). Since Yeshua's definition of Scripture was in accordance with the biblical canon of His day (Luke 24;44-45) it doesn't make sense to think He was alluding to 1 Enoch 15 when He referenced "Scripture" in Matthew 22. It makes more sense that He was referencing Exodus 3:6, which are the very scriptures He goes on to directly quote from.
Brother Wilber - kindly read 2 Tim 3:16-17:
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
So when you say Jude's quoting of Enoch is 'insignificant' - you argument to say the least, leaves a lot to be desired....In fact, i would really love to attend one of those lectures you give, or even read the books you have authored, so that i can get to know where you are coming from with this kind of arguments!
By the way, read the be Bible with UNDERSTANDING under the influence of the Holy Spirit! He will surely HELP you, by INSTRUCTING YOU IN THE RIGHT WAY!
Also, remember, most authors keep reminding us that not everything could be included in the Bible - reason - even the world itself could not be enough to contain the literature - e.g. read the Gospel of John 20:30 - 31
30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
God bless you - Shalom!
nicodemus amboye remember when it was said that all scripture is God breathed they were talking about the Old Testament...the new had not been written yet. All the letters from the apostles were not collected and called”scripture” until hundreds of years later. In His love :) Shalom
This guy is very thorough
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complete with regard to every detail; not superficial or partial.
Well according to a dictionary, he is not.
Wonderful video thank you
The Book of Enoch helped me understand why God flooded the earth.
Everything to disprove the book of Enoch. Enoch does not state he is the messiah, he simple point out to Jesus. It's very common to see things ahead in the Bible. As for what he mentioned about mount Sinai and Daniel. Take a look in one example: Daniel also profhecied about King Cyrus even before he was born.
These things are everwhere in the Bible. Unfortunatelly people will always disqualify the book of Enoch.
Amen brother
I agree, of you look in the bibel jezus ( internet tels hé has more that 700 titels, namens an references to him)is sometimes called the Son of David. this Does not mean that Salomo was the Messiah. I was amazed about the precision of how the book talks about how He sits at the right hand site of God. And since It’s was a dream ore a spiritual journey It has probably a meaning to it.
Attempting to interprate scripture without divine intervention would be misleading to the reader and this is why scholars( carnal) come up with there mundane solutions that sounds erksom to the true believer..
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Amen. Right to the 👉 point
@@nicholaspierrecampo2534 i was trying to say exactly that but youe comment said it way better!! So sad to see people professing "faith" agree to materialistic explanations......they still buy they lies they taught us in "schools".....
Nope, don’t agree with what he’s saying in regards to The Book of Enoch. So it’s not included in the Bible but no where do I interpret this book as this guy does and not once seen where Enoch considered himself to be Christ!!
Agreed! This guy is another academic whose eyes are dimmed and ears are blocked...
@@rosewhite--- His eyes and ears are uncircumcised
What about the fact that Enoch was taken up by God. He never died. So maybe he did see mount Sinai in visions
@@brendanbeck8478 No-one has ascended to heaven except Jesus.
It's likely GOD has some way of keeping people alive that we cannot know about so that they are not dead but not on Earth.
And let's remember Satan's First Gang of Angels is bound underground.
Maybe Enoch and Elijah are alive on the Moon and are the source of those lights that have been recorded thousands of years?
We just don't know so anything is possible.
@@rosewhite--- jesus had to die to ascend tho
It was the Pharisees who have canonised the Old Testament into what we now know it as. They also edited it, numbered it etc after the destruction of the second Temple at 70CE. They chose which books went in (edited of course) and which ones stayed out (the External Books like the Book of Jubilees, Enoch etc). They are also the ones who gave Jesus to the Romans.
The reason they chose the way they did had to do with the ongoing dispute between them and the Sadducees (צדוקים) who were the descendants of Aaron and the high priests (from the house of Zadok) (צדוק) of the temple for nearly a thousand years by divine decree.
The Sadducees hid the Dead Sea Scrolls Once they were removed from the priesthood by Antiochus Epiphanes, who sold the priesthood and caused this ancient rift in Judaism of the time. Eventually, the Pharisees would have the upper hand and form Judaism as we know it to this day, with its lunar calendar etc.
The Dead Sea Scrolls shine a light into the original Jewish/Abrahamic holy scriptures that paint a very different picture to their edited versions edited by the Pharisees. For example we learn that the original Hebrew calendar was based on the sun and was incredibly accurate! 364 days with an extra week every seven years and an extra fortnight every 28 years, giving a perfect 365 and a quarter days a year. The year started on the Autumn Equinox.
To say the book of Enoch is nonsense which is what you are suggesting, based on the fact it was edited out by the Pharisees is nonsense in itself.
Luke 12: 1-3
Thanks so much my bro
The Book of Enoch talks about 200 Angels coming down to Earth. The Catholic Church refuses to talk about this, while there is a UN Military base where the Angels landed.
@Monica Merino he was close.....but it is the landing 'platform", Balbek,Trilithon. The Golan Heights and mnt Hermon...close by. @Western Stone ,jerusalem. Looks like "Arunahs Threshing Floor".....was another platform at Jerusalem.
The .......globe has many platforms or stepped and truncated pyramids...for landing?
*The Catholic church...or RCC~ Rape Children Cult.....refuses to admit the Anunaki.
Fallen angels of enoch bk = 200 Igigi that landed for marduk's wedding.
Enoch resurfaced to this generation for the elect.
True. This is the time to come to surface all that enoch has prophesied. Gods timing is perfect!
True! brothers.
It was a Gospel concerning the elects of God and righteous by Jesus Christ.
It was not our own righteousness that saved us,
It was the righteousness of Jesus Christ that was imputed on us.
2 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning "chosen" you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Boom!
I can't help but agree. It was meant to resurface at the right time, which is the present time.
It was hidden among other lost book and scrolls that have all came to light.
Great video
Thank you
This is quite a good presentation and rationale. I've spent the last two years immersing myself in ancient near eastern thought and cultural and find this to be consistent with my learning. Many thanks to the folks at Founded In Truth for this simple video.
Hey Peter - thanks for the comment and the positive review of the video!
Don't forget to check out David's follow up video HERE:
th-cam.com/video/aoVFVPzjAMU/w-d-xo.html
Why would the bible need defending in the first place. The bible don't need defending , people just defend their ego
Why don't you research about Islam?
Bible absolutely does need defending. Thats all people do when you call them out on it. The entire thing is the greatest fraud our species has ever encountered.
@@yutaniskynet2653 What's wrong with fraud? It's only bad if it doesn't move us to your preferred subjective goal you think humanity ought to be head. Who gives a fuck?
Wow very interesting 💓👍👍👍👍👍
Wow I’m so glad I watched this cuz I was about to read it
So let me get this straight. Enoch, who didn't write his own book, exalts himself as Messiah in his Messianic prohesy because 1st Enoch is pseudopigraphica and non canon, yet the Epistle of Jude which IS CANON, mentions Enoch's prophesy as pertaining to Jesus, but he's the equivalent of watching Star Wars and thus, shouldn't be believed? Ok 👍
Enoch's prophecy is true. Nthe books they found are counterfeit.
"So let me get this straight. Enoch, who didn't write his own book, exalts himself as Messiah "
Wrong. next time someone tells you that, make them give you scripture and verse. Enoch doesn't claim to be the messiah. the only people that make that claim are people that have never read the book of enoch and are just repeating what someone told them.
How would he know did God tell him that I highly dout it
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Excellent!
Very interesting and clear. The book of Enoch was never recognized as part of the Old Testament before the New Testament was written. What is their to debate?
Why did Peter refer to its contents and why did Jude quote it? Answer these if its so clearly uninspired by The Spirit of GOD.
@@themysteryofgodliness6574 Because it was inspired by mans own wisdom ... or with dark wisdom as well too ..... just saying lol I really don't know but read Samuel when Saul went to seek a witch after he lost connection from God because of his unloyalty ... i came from darkness and got saved by Holy Ghost so I have some personal experience . Ive seen demons but PRAISE JESUS ! I GOT OUT OF THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS AND INTO THE KINGDoM OF LIGHT HALLELUJAH
@@ThatManManuel Praise God brother. Though Enoch was written before Christ was on Earth and yet it speaks of Him and His mission on Earth. Likewise The Testaments of The Twelve Patriarchs (another ancient manuscript) speaks of a Man That God would choose who would be hung on a tree by His own people. Listen bro, nobody has to read these to be saved, but wisdom of man, denys Christ, Wisdom of God Glorifys Him.
@@themysteryofgodliness6574 "i will call on the foolish things of the earth to shame the wise" ... Amen Gods word really has depth ...to add to what your saying man's own wisdom comes from pride . I know enoch was the great grandfather of Noah right ? There was a lot of prophecy (spiritual gifts) given because I believe God really wants us back in the garden . That's how much he loves us. Jesus came to save the sinners and o how mad He was towards the pharisees. Anyways ill leave off with this. Before I was saved I almost dwelled in the Book of Solomon ... I believe that what it was called. The demons of this world but I started to feel dark stuff but a voice came to me and said , Read my word first.
There is a lot of deception in this world and so many are seeking truth (Read Amos) . Theres no doubt we need Jesus in Our Hearts. The world needs Him in the flesh again.
I want to write and share my testimony so bad because there's so much, so much I can share . The power of the Holy Spirit , of God, so powerful. So loving it makes me want Him more and more. Not man but God. So for now I have my eyes on Jesus .
God bless all of you reading this
P.S The Great Councel on Bible Project is a really good visual of how Spirits left God and became the Fallen angels aka Principalities of this World
@@ThatManManuel Yeah brother i would not get into Soloman. That is an occultic school of thought. The Book of Enoch is a book of prophecy. Dont get into Enoch 2 or 3, they are forgeries of Enoch 1.
Anything that takes ones mind away from purity, it is not for that individual.
Romans 14:13-17
[13]Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
[14]I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
[15]But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
[16]Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
[17]For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Jude made reference to Enoch in his writings,he quoted Enochs prophecy of the messiah... Which meant he was reading (inspired).
Hey Nicholas,
This was explicitly addressed in the video.
Shalom!
@@FoundedInTruth I respect your opinion on the matter
@Ebiegberi Adonkie , Thanks for the feedback. I believe that exact point was addressed in the video.
Thanks!
@@FoundedInTruth not sure if this is David Wilber himself, but it is factually false to say Enoch in Ch. 71 is called the Messiah. Read verses 14 and 15 and you will see how The Son of Man and Enoch are distinct people and Michael is talking to Enoch about Son of Man.
@@anthonypassarelli5534 true.
Depends on which Enoch, because Enoch in one version never is told he is the messiah, he is told that the anointed one he sees is the messiah and the Lord of spirits forsakes him not. The left side on the screen on the website I found connects very well with the Bible we have today, I don’t know what’s going on with the second side unless someone was just having trouble translating it. But yeah no Enoch was referring to the coming messiah the whole time. I think we just need to do deeper videos analyzing this. Because I think it may be scripture that the later church didn’t want to truly verify. I am willing to see these other texts and see if God’s wisdom is in it, for God is my teacher, not me or man. I just pray for God to show me. Keep digging my family keep searching. God is allowing much knowledge to be unveiled now, while the world is giving false knowledge. Let’s look into it while we can.
Thank you. Clear.
Wonder video learned so much in just 10 minutes, thanks for the video
in genesis it says he escaped death because of his faith you forgot to mention that huge statement
where does it say that
@@Johnnypensful genesis 5 24
Not aware of Enoch claim that He said he was the son of man or the Messiah that doesn’t fit well with anything I’ve ever heard about the book of Enoch and I’m wondering if this man has invented the story
The earliest TNK is Ethiopian and it also has the book of Jasher in it.
The book of Jasher was quoted by the Messiah himself in NT and yet it is still considered pseudo.
Is it possible the TNK as is also dismissed books that were considered prophetic?
No where in chapter 71 does it state enoch as being the messiah
Thanks. Everything this guy is saying is his opinion. He’s up here speaking for Yashua like he personally hung out with Him. Was Enoch a prophet? Yes. Did he walk with Yah and was no more? Yes. Common sense says he’d write something down. Which means he WOULD be included in the book of the PROPHETS. That means he He hasn’t proved anything. Why doesn’t he deal with the fact that Enoch’s prophecies are accurate?
@@DeVonMArtis yes & he mentions nothing of the ancient knowledge & scripture that was destroyed & kept from us our modern day translations are far from the original word
On Axis. Yes it does. 71 verse 14 " And he came to me and greeted me with His voice and said unto me, "This is the Son of man who is born unto righteousness and righteousness abides over him and the righteousness of the head of days forsakes him not."
15. And he said unto me " He proclaims unto thee peace in the name of the world to come;
For from hence has proceeded peace from the creation of the world, And so shall it be unto thee forever and forever and ever.
16 And all shall walk in his ways since righteousness never forsakes him.
With him will be their dwelling places and with him their heritage.
And they shall not be separated form him forever and ever and ever.
17 And so there shall be length of days with that Son of Man, And the righteous shall have peace and an upright way, In the name of the Lord of Spirits forever and ever."
It can be interpreted in different ways, but just before 14, Michael took Enoch before the Head of Days and all the angelic hosts and then refers to Enoch as the Son of Man. It is a stretch to say that Michael meant that the Father, the Head of Days was the Son of Man, though in a certain sense He is, the Father and Son being one.
An understanding of the Torah and Psalms and the teachings of the Orthodox churches on Theosis, clear up an accusations of heresy or blasphemy.
Just as Moses was a god to the children of Israel, Melchizedek was King of Salem and High Priest of Yah on earth, who Abraham paid respect to and David is identified as the Messiah in certain allusions in the Psalms;
Enoch was through his sanctification, translation and transfiguration, was now so full of Christ's Spirit, that he represented Christ the Messiah, the Son of Man, in the vision.
See my channel for more along these lines.
Peace and blessings.
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@@DeVonMArtis Enoch knew the Earth is Flat 😇
Thanks for all the context - makes a lot of sense that there are many other books quoted in the Bible and that doesn't make them part of the canon.
Thanks Melina for the comment and the positive feedback!
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God bless you brother powerful stuff with the upmost respect you just watch this video of yours you completely controdicted your self numerous times.I ask have you ever meditated on any of this( to become familiar with)or have you asked our creator The Most High in prayers for clarity on this Fascinating stuff I would love to have conversations with you about this one. God Bless you one love. How do you feel this is so do we feel truth or see hear it?
God is love. Jesus saves. God Bless us all. Save our youth. In Jesus almighty name amen
We read the Book of Enoch the same way as we read the Book of Josephus. Just because Josephus is not in the Bible, doesn’t make it pagan! We know that the Fallen Angels imprisonment is listed in The 18th chapter of Enoch! We know of the Diary of Admiral Richard Byrd, who came in contact with an “ascended master who spoke with him and said unbelievable information. Read his diary.
Last month I was amazed about hollow earth theory and the journey of Olaf and Admiral Byrd.. Today, I am enlighten that people in Agartha are fallen angels who helped the mankind in ancient civilization (that we thought are aliens).
Josephus was a historian. Just a human. Do you believe all historians equally? Or just him?
Yet the Book of Enoch was found hidden with the rest of the dead sea scrolls. For a such mundane booklet, taking so much hassles and trouble to protect & makin sure it reached the future us seem mind boggling
can you also do a video of the apocalypse of adam? it would be interesting to hear your opinions
Did you consult with the most high befire doing this video?
No, The Only reason you leave out Enoch, is become you're Terrified of the Spiritual Aspects of Enoch, and Choose to demonize that which God is telling you within Enoch
And where did you get your information?
Hey Founded in truth I think it's a wonderful explanation but I have a question, what about the place jesus quote the book of enoch in Mathew chapter 22 verse 29-30 “Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Considering that point there is no other scriptures that specifically talks about this topic In the 3 books you mentioned it's found in the book of enoch chapter 15 verse 4-8. so if Jesus himself consider it and called it scripture how do you reconcile your idea with this one?
And if there are any other scripture that mentions the topic that Angel's can't get married(Jesus's reply ) from other scriptures I will be glad to hear them from you.
Thank you am here to learn not to knock on others beliefs.
Where would the authors of the books of Enoch get the information about Enoch. Enoch was a child of Caine and Caine was a child of Adam. So the authors, in about 100 BCE, are writing about a guy (Enoch) that dreams a dream way back in Adams day, if I have that right. How did they come about that account?
Mj Davis how do you know enochs not talking about Jesus? As Jesus will reign for a 1000 years out of Jerusalem and the government will be on His shoulders. And the nations will worship Him. It’s also says that if some don’t come to worship him, their eyes and ears will melt within themselves. On earth that is!
I don’t think ppl get that, when we get caught up in the clouds with him.. and then when he returns with 10000’s of His saints are two different times. Hence why He comes back again ruling the world for 1000 years. Don’t you think that is what Enoch is suggesting???
Cain was a son of the devil. Able was a son of Adam
@@donthedragonslayer888endti2 Eve specifically praises God for her son Cain. She gives thanks and praise to God for her child.
IDk Enoch was a prophet. Forwards the “ canon” Jesus in Luke 24:44 doesn’t mention Job and Esther and other books , but anyway Enoch was a prophet
Well spotted, I thought the same thing.
It says in the verse "the laws of Moses and other prophets and the psalms corcerning me". Those other prophets and people you are talking about are included in the word "other prophets" so your argument is lame.
You wanted him to reference each single prophet? Hmmm
In the book of Enoch it tells u the right way to ask God for what you want
Jesus did also and guess what he is the Messiah.
Kevin Rider - Could be that there was a book written by Enoch and that there was writing before the flood that survived on the Ark. I find it difficult to believe that the writers of the scripture would quote from and draw attention to writings that are propagating such errors as the supposed "Book of Enoch" we have today.
Also Enoch was considered part of the Bible until more modern times
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Really?! Are you usually only in Winnie the Pooh comment sections? Because, this one is freaking tame!
@@Saffron-sugar probably lol
Only one thought on this - his explanation about why Jude quotes the book of Enoch doesn't fully stack up because Jude attributes the prophecy to Enoch the 7th from Adam. Either the words he quoted were from the Enoch in Scripture - which implies the book itself was written by him - or they weren't, and if they weren't then surely Jude is confused and his quote is a clear error?