When to Kill Plants (On Purpose)
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- Garden plants are going to die, some by accident and some on purpose. Knowing when to let plants die or when to actively remove them can improve gardening success. (Video #359)
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A couple of years ago I answered an ad on one of my local gardening facebook groups. She was giving away everglade tomato seedlings. I told her I would be interested in some. What I wound up with was a large pot with hundreds of 3" seedlings in them. I painstakingly separated them all out and put them in red solo cups to give away. Some of them did die but I was pretty successful in giving most of them away alive. I couldn't bring myself to just keep a few and toss the rest. Thanks for letting me know that it is okay to kill a few to save a few.
I do pull plants, cover plants, chop down plants. I admit I have feelings of guilt and regret. I regret even when I pull weeds. However, plants themselves kill each other, so while I regret, I still do it. Still not sure I have green thumb, but I do love plants.
I needed to hear this lol I have more seedlings than space. Thank you!
I'm doing that right now I have about 50 tomato plants. I know it is more than I can use. I had some varieties that I purchased last year. I really wanted to grow them. I'm planning a plant sale in my driveway. I live on a busy road so I hope people will stop like they do for my garage sales. This year I knew I planted too many flower Seedlings but I'm so looking forward to those flowers here in Zone 6A-B Upstate NY😊
Boy, did I need this! I potted up at least 3-4 times as many pepper and tomato plants as I will need because I couldn't bring myself to kill a baby plant. ;-) Now I'm harassing neighbors and friends to take them!
LOL, I do the same 🤣
My Granny said a green thumb is a direct result of a burning bush.
She was crazy but I loved her.
Your grandma understood.
I've given friends of mine plants, and they killed them. They lacked the garden knowledge that I have. They weren't from a farm like I am. Thanks for sharing this. Cheers, Scott! ✌️
Just tossed a whole tray of tomato seedlings that were developing a weird leaf curl/twist issue -- which reminds me I should contact Baker Creek about it. The pack of Spoon Tomatoes intended for my little kiddo to enjoy may have been contaminated, which is a shame because not one made it.
Aside from killing wheat cover crops, like many others I have so much guilt killing off seedlings. It is painful, so I try to donate extra plants to neighbors as well.
Your apple tree story reminded me of my first attempt at sentimental bonsai attempts with saplings foraged in my families forest. When a tree continues to suffer, sometimes it just needs to be set free.
Really wish seeds were less expensive considering the losses we as gardeners incur... intentionally, or not.
I’ve been gardening for 7 or so years and killed hundreds of plants unintentionally 😂🤣 for me it’s hard to kill plants I start under my grow lights mostly because of the time and effort I put in to sprouting them etc. One thing I’ve learned though,if you let them all live,you’re just increasing the work load and that can become untenable.
Your videos have made my gardening experiences more productive.
Thank you. I agree it is hard to do, but necessary.
Since this is the first spring since I retired last year, I decided to grow tomatoes, broccoli and other veg's from seed. Was not sure how I would do so I over-planted and have way too many plants. I am able to give most of the extra away to a neighbor who expanded his garden this year so I feel good that I have a home for them. Thinning out seedlings is another story and it pains me to do that but I know I have to for all the reasons Gardener Scott points out in this video. Thanks to all his tips in his videos, I have numerous healthy plants that are far better than what I used to buy as potted plants every year at a local nursery.
Perfect timing for this topic! 😉
Actually i'm reorganizing my mom's garden. I weed an old raspberry area, where some little wild cherry trees and lots of weeds and a floor of goldenrod grew. I pull them all out, but save little raspberry and strawberry plants, lupins and aquilegias as well, to set them into other spots in the garden. So i'm creating the space for 3 nice new raised beds for growing vegetables.
By pulling all these plants out i can clean up the ground and my mom won't have so much work to keep these new beds running. It's a lot of work but great to see the difference. 😊
So killing some plants creates new space for growing loads of other plants. 👍💚🌱
When too many plants are started from seed, an option is to plant some out earlier than is "safe".
In my region, 10% of the time the last frost is by April 21st. And 90% of the time by May 24th. 50% by May 8th.
You could plant out extra tomato seedlings early and hope there is no more cold weather. If so, they have a head start. If not and they were extras you were going to kill anyway, no loss, you have the backups that can be planted at a VERY safe time. You can at least learn something about how cold weather or maybe even hardening them off more rapidly effects the plants.
Of course, often we find friends who would like the plants instead. This year it looks like I’ll have enough for friends and to possibly get about a 2-3 week head start with some varieties.
I cried, I laughed… he he he This was soooo timely too, as usual. I just started seriously growing from seeds indoors so I really struggled with killing any seedlings, pulling the lesser ones, etc. I ended up with the ones I wanted to keep and the ones I didn’t and little room under my lights. So, thank you for this. Felt like I went to a therapist instead of listening to Gardener Scott. So good!
I really needed to hear this! I’ve unintentionally killed plants but the idea of deliberately doing it just kills me. I’m in my second year of gardening and I know that to have healthy plants it’s necessary but it doesn’t make it any easier. So thanks for this video. 👍🏼 I appreciate all of your videos and the info that it teaches me.
I have very small garden. I also use 10-15 grow bags. I have herbs and vegetables started indoor. I know I have to kill lots of them. 60 percent of vegetables, 85% of the flowers and 90% of my herbs will die. I have three gardeners will take substantial amounts but they will not make a dent on my inventory. Thanks for letting me know it’s ok to kill what I or others can’t use.
I also had my raspberrys eaten by larwa. But I replanted them to containers so I'm able to control soil. And they growing back. Sometimes I feel really bad about killing the plants, but I know that they will come back to soil in form of compost :)
Another timely reminder ❤️. My seedlings for the first time ever are beautiful this year. Yesterday I went to pot up tomatoes and realized I probably will need to kill some. 😪. They look so good! So I procrastinated until today. So wish me luck. Thanks again. I’ve learned so much from you!!
Yes the struggle is real! I am so excited to see seeds that I sowed come up that I just cannot bear to kill them. I know it's ok, but I sure do have trouble doing it. I am planning to give away a lot of flowers this year.It sure makes my neighbors happy.
Another great philosophy of gardening episode. I dedicated one of my 4 raised beds to seeds in ground as an experiment. Half has been productive. But I am having to kill the less productive plants and replace. The other beds are doing well. It's fun to experiment. My goal is to thrive from my garden and share with those in need in my neighborhood. Disclosure; I planted seeds too soon. This is my first full year oc gardening for food. Thank you so much for your videos!
So true. So difficult to accept the loss.
Lol. Funny intro. I had a helluva time this year with pumpkins, just awfully low rain amounts. Thinking of starting fresh next year
Important information to have. This year I'm getting more comfortable with thinning/killing plants on purpose. Can't tell you how many volunteer dill plants I've culled so far! LOL!
Watching as I pot up the 100th or so hot peppers. It was 2 different blend packs and that's the problem--I can't tell who is who yet🤣🤣
I also am growing about as many different tomatoes. I had some 2016 Beefsteak seeds and didn't think they would grow and they are the healthiest of all. Maybe that's the trick is to age the seeds🤣
I'm excited about the San Marzanos everyone raves about, but I also found Baker Creek Opalkas and Super Sauce Burpee. Want more paste tomatoes, but I do have some surprise slicers like 49 day Early Treat from Burpee and Bodacious. Can't wait! I think people come to expect there tomatoe and pepper plants from me🤣🤣
Personally, i have bad memories killing things. My father was a hunter and I thought I was too. I'm not, i regret every killing i did. So now, I'm looking for a balance in the garden. Looking for species that die off on the correct time for the next plant to grow. Plus, there's always us humans in the equation. Hard to solve, a lot many variables. Only experience and time will tell.
They may not die on time buy I use crimson clover, vetch in late fall on my pathways and any garden row that is empty. when the really hot weather comes they die leaving a good mulch on top, roots for the worms, and some fixiated nitrogen. Stays green all winter.
I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you!
Yesterday I committed planticide on two plants I've been babying for months. They were sucking the soul out of me. I tossed 'em. I felt guilty but my soul is coming back. Phew.
THANKS SCOTT
I just had to cull seedlings, made me so sad 😭 wish I had more room to save them all
I planted too many seeds but I potted em up and giving them away to family and friends.
Thank you was hoping it was closer I'm about 20 minutes north of Denver
I love watching your videos, in this video most of what you are saying is true about the weeds and volunteer weeds. I have witnessed hardwoods, referring to, peach trees and plums trees planted in fall and die seem to be dead the next spring. I leave them to be thru the summer and the next spring they sprout from the ground.
Ah such necessary but difficult advice. Thanks for sharing the hard truth. Last year when I thinned my carrots I figured I'd just transplant them. Well some did okay but it wound up being an issue for me because I had just made more work for myself. This year I'm just going to thin and let it be! I'll keep this video in mind as I do. Thanks!
Thank you for your videos they are very helpful!!! Sometimes the weather doesn’t help.
Strawberries are a prime example of a perennial, as they have a productive life span of about 4 years, so once a year to allow room to breathe for new runners etc and keep high fruit production, we need to remove the older plants.
I kill em when I eat em...
Besides that, I do like to put in some red clover on occasion, and peas help a bit.
Funny how you can wipe out thousands of plants, then sweat the helmet headed pepper plant. I have 1 tray in my greenhouse that's the "last chance" infirmary where damaged, dried out and "mystery" plants go to make it or not. About 50% make it back to the queue. A lot turn out to be weeds that creep into the soil. If it's interesting, it gets a home somewhere, usually outdoors.
Good video.
Haha. Glad I'm not alone. The ICU 🤣
My artichoke experiment from last year created at least 40 new artichokes this spring. Yikes! They are now weeds :(
Let's add here that you can eat some of the excess seedlings as microgreens. Cut off after first true leaves and enjoy radishes, broccoli, kohlrabi, spinach, leeks, sunflowers, aramath, watermelon, nasturtium, snap peas, and more. Don't eat tomato or pepper seedlings however!
Lol, it still hurts.
good advice!.... I kill around 30-40 tomato plants each year as they pop up all over the garden/property.. benefits of using heirlooms!.. oh sure I give them away but still .. nature is so proficient in its reproduction.. In fact, I have all kinds of stuff popping up all over it gets crazy sometimes... For the most part, they all end up in the compost and the potatoes love their arrival!..
I've been trying to get columbine and petunia seeds to germinate. Finally figured out those two need light to germinate. So Monday Im going to try again and not cover with seeds starting mix. Just keep going.
With respect, how may I get on your "Give me plants" list? I don't ever mind it if someone wants to give me plants. I find a spot for them in my garden!
I will bet you will keep some as backups in case nature, and bugs decide to mame, or kill them first.
Put them on the next door ap? Btw ty for the suggestion of the figs.
This intro reminded me of that scene in Good Will Hunting.
"It's naht yoour fault, Will."
I just killed a cabbage plant…turned it into coleslaw and it was delicious 🤤
We’ll said that man :D
I'm pretty lucky to have a decent amount of space but sometimes plants just have to go for the good of the garden
Haha, I've killed more than my share of plants over the years, some on purpose, some not. Such is the life of a gardener.
Thank you Gardener Scott! Question: zone 5b Wisconsin; when do I put my lettuce, spinach and bunching onion seedlings in the ground? Before or after the last frost?
i think for brassicas (lettuce and spinach), they prefer cooler temperature so I think before should be fine! Plus you probably have lots of seeds so I'm sure you can spare some to test it out! I'm also 5b in Ontario :)
Look up Phenology in the garden
All of those should be able to go in before. Check the seed packets for more specific guidelines.
Just make sure they are hardened off properly. Cover if the temps will be in the 20's for more than a couple hours. I lost a bunch of onions last spring to a late hard freeze in the Madison area.
Right now I have lettuce, spinach, carrots, radish, brassicas and beets up in a cold frame. I would have planted my onions by now, but been so busy with keeping everything alive in the grow room have not had time to clean off the bed and get them going.
I basically look for soil temps to be in the 40's before I put onion seedlings into the ground.
@@brianseybert2189 thank you Brian that was very helpful. Looks like a cold night ahead this week...maybe wait a little longer. Good luck with yours!
Thank you! I bought some strawberry bare roots from the box store and I think I messed up making up my own container mix, put too much water, and used nearly dead plants already lol. I totally failed but I have to remember that it’s okay since I’m learning.
I’ve tried bare root strawberries twice and still couldn’t get them to stay alive - it’s very common. There’s a special breed of people that somehow perform the miracle of bare root straws, but I am not one of them. 😏
I too had the same results already this year with the bare roots. I soaked them for about an hour and weeks later they are the same as when I planted them so you are not alone :) I am going to try to grow them from seeds. As long as your learning your are on the right path.
I have seen others buy doomed plant starts because they aren't in many cases taken care of. I have bought flower bulbs, asparagus , hardi kiwi, and other transplant root items and they often were going to die anyway from in store neglect. I hate wasting money. At least I get some soil from them at clearance. Just think about how many plants parts are killed in your kitchen, or spoil from neglect.
I am also in Colorado can you please give me more information about your garden club plant sale when and where it will be
The Falcon Garden Club plant sale will be June 4, beginning at 9am. It will be at the High Prairies Library in Falcon. Thanks.
Did you realize your thumbnail and oran ge tee shirt looked a bit like an orange prison jumpsuit? Fit well with "It's okay to kill"!
You have to kill a lot of plants to develop a green thumb.
Having a green thumb means being a gardening veteran. You've seen everything die and killed with your bare hands. You've committed mass genocide on your garden...
@@starshot5172 lol. Not sure why I laughed so hard, but it is so very true
@@starshot5172 failure is a great teacher!
👍👍
Not going to let the borage take over this year! PROMISE
My worm bins are in my grow room, they get all the sacrificial plants. I try to have nothing go to waste, especially a seed you nurtured only ending up killing it. I figure, what once was, will be again. Only as a worm casting that will nourish another plant.
Good information as usual. It's hard to do but a necessary evil. In this case, the ends certainly justify the means!
Do you use Occulation on cover crops also?
I don't, but that can be one way to kill them Clear plastic (solarization) can be a faster and more effective method.
Hi Scott, I bought a Green Stalk Leaf Planter from your link. I'm putting it together today, but it doesn't say what to do with the clear tube it came with!! Do you know? Thank you!
You can connect it to the base to direct excess of water that will drain out, but you don't have to use it.
There is a hole in the base for it to help drain any overflow.
@@katrinalucas9823 Thanks Katrina!
@@GardenerScott Thanks Scott!
I'm the worst about this. I hate killing plants
What’s with the green screen?
Don’t garden naked. Plant cover crops. Just saw that and decided to send it off to you
Gah! Noooooooooooooo! 😂
We’re talking GARDENING SERIAL KILLERS here! 🤣🤣🤣🔪🪓
I grow so much lettuce and Swiss chard. I was salad out. So I mowed down it all. Funny thing, it reappear. I did eat more salad. Than I just let the weeds, animals and bug destroy it. I guess I'm not a good killer.
lesson learned - dont let tomato/vegetable fertilizer land on your baby tomato plant leaves.. it will turn them white with fertilizer burn. time to kill a plant and re-seed the pot 😂
It’s OK, but it still sucks!!!