Bought one of these thanks to you brother! Liked it so much I had to buy a second one. Bar none its the best pistol for 250 I've ever come across. Cheers!
Always good to hear that I helped someone spend their money, I always offer my friends this service, but they just laugh at me. I agree though, great handgun, highly underrated.
Thanks for the vid I have owned this gun for probably 6years and am by far the most accurate with it than any other gun I own but the info in your video is very helpful for mags and components
Really enjoyed your review. I hadn't noticed that the slide cycles while safety is on. That's a feature shared by M&P pistols and something I appreciate. Also, thanks for checking the trigger pull.
Very informative review! Probably the best I've seen of at least 25 video reviews! Interesting about the conversion kits--I had no idea. I would imagine this one could almost be considered an of Italian origins or at least a close cousin to the Tanfoglio Witness. I have a B6P on layaway at my local gun shop ($280) and ordered an additional mag from Cheaper Than Dirt. Can't wait to get this one to the range. Cheers!
nice review Sir. Sarsilmaz b6p was first known as sarsilmaz bernardelli and the started producing this gun in 2006 .They purchased the equipment's from Bernardelli Italy . i have this gun too since2011. Greetings from Pakistan.
you know I think it was first in production in 2005 because mine is stamped as that unless i'm confusing the numbers say mine is #2005 produced? Anyhow I love mine as well..great gun.....
Great video ! Didn't know about the .22 conversation kit , I'll have to look into that . I've had my B6P for a couple of years now . Probably have 6 or 7 hundred rounds through it . Never have had any issues at all . I've shot the wide hollow points ( Gold Dots , HST , SIG V-Crowns ) , and even one mag of lead mold bullets . It just works . When I bought my gun from SWVG , they had factory Sar mags for $24 , so I bought two more . so all told I've got $310 in the gun with 3 mags . I'm highly satisfied with it , and I would recommend it . Lot of bang for the buck .
I also liked and subscribed and thank you for the informative video! It was actually more informative then the owners manual itself :-) keep up the good work!
Nice informative video Darin, I learned some things about the B6P I purchased back in 2015 that I had no idea about. I also own a Canik TP9SA and I'm about to purchase a Tristar T-120 ; )
Antonio R thank you for the kind words. I hope to have some more vids up after the new year, been having some computer issues so can't edit the video lately. Thanks again.
Cool to hear. I've went back and forth on getting the B6PC. I can't decide between it or possibly a Tristar P100. They are both compact, but the P100 is steel and much heavier I'm sure, but I really like these SAR guns. I still have my S120 and it's still a beauty and fun to shoot.
darink300zx I bought SAR B6P compact last year. Excellent gun. Eats any ammo and zero failures in couple hundred rounds. Cheaper than Dirt has CZ75B mags @$25 Been shooting 55 years and this is my favorite to shoot
Agreed, one of the best values out on the market right now. I really can't even say I would recommend the witness PS (which is a gun I really like) over this one, unless you wanted the accessory rail on the dustcover. Excellent shooter and great value.
@@highsecurityagent8778 I forgot about posting this it was fixed about an hour after I put that post on there. There's a part called the safety sheet or part number 51 you have to have it correctly on and everything fits
Recently purchased a new SAR B6. My CZ 75 magazines will not work in the SAR B6. CZ 75 magazines are too short to lock in. SAR B6 magazines are a little longer than CZ 75 magazines. Easy enough to file .050" off the B6 polymer grip so as to accommodate CZ 75 magazines but that might affect the pistol's warranty. Also, the SAR magazines now over insert and stop on the ejector, which some say will create a problem over time. SA Trigger pull on my pistol is 4.5#.
@@thinman8621 that’s interesting. Do the cz75 mags have a metal or plastic baseplate and what is the capacity of the cz mags, 16 or 17? I know there are some cz75 mags that may not work but I’ve always bought the ones marketed as cz75b mags and they work in all my tanfoglio based clones, like the SAR.
@@darink300zx One mag is a 16rd metal base Mec Gar. One mag is a 18rd polymer base CZ that came with a CZ 75 SP-01. Both mags work perfectly in the CZ. Both are too short to lock into the SAR. No amount of pounding will seat either mag in the SAR -- they really are too short.
@@thinman8621 that is odd, I do think I remember that the 16r mecgar mags didn’t work well for some but the 17r mecgars do, which are the ones I get. I think I have some old 16r cz85 mags, I may have to try them in the b6 and see if they fit.
@@darink300zx Watched several TH-cam reviews of the B6. All said CZ mags interchange, although one mentioned CZ mags have to be firmly seated. Perhaps I'm the only guy who got a "long grip" B6.
Yea good review and good history Ullah. I'm weighing in kinda late as i bought mine say 3 months ago. Everything about it i like. Especially the crisp single action trigger. Can carry as you mentioned with safety on OR rack one with safety on, pretty handy. As far as accuracy goes i'm not competition BUT can pretty much core out a target @ 21 ft.. I holds steady and doesn't jump much. Look it's do the job PERIOD. Very comfy for larger hands and weight unloaded say 24 oz. I'll take it all day long. 15+1 Hydroshok 115 grn. 9mm. Actually even 124 grn. JHP Armscor work well too. Xtra mags easy to come by but maybe not original SAR.......
Yeah, very good pistol. SAR USA is now importing these instead of EAA. They have some other SAR products that they are looking at bringing in as well. I use the mecgar 17 rounders made for the CZ75b in mine with no issue.
There are little metal inserts within the polymer. Not full length like the metal framed tanfoglios, but not just polymer either. I have seen at least one witness ps where one of the metal inserts popped out and it had to be sent back for repair. In the video, it’s hard to make out but at around the 07:10 mark the inserts are on both sides of the gun, halfway down the frame and at the rear of the frame. The slide contacts the metal inserts and doesn’t slide on the polymer. Hope that helps.
@@darink300zx Thanks for the reply. I've a MEGA, but B6P weight, price point and (for me) hammer-DA/SA is tantalizing... but I do have some concern with longevity, particularly as my main use is OWB in woods, and it gets bumped around.
Liked the video, very informative. I was looking at the witness steel frame and then i thought why not just get a cz 75b. I have a cz p-09 and really like it. Do you think the cz"s are worth the extra money?By the way i also have a canik tp9sa and i think it has a better trigger than the p-09. Also subbed and liked.
mulletman2m if this will tell you anything I have over 10 cz75 type guns, and only one is an actual CZ, a cz85. I just find it hard to pay the higher price, sometimes several hundred dollars more, for the actual cz when you have the caniks (s120, t120, p120, etc), SARs, and even the witnesses for so cheap. That's just me though, one thing with the witnesses, unless you get one of the higher priced elite models, you can't easily change out the front sight. So yeah, I don't think they are worth the extra money, but ymmv, and you definitely have better aftermarket support and resale value with the CZ so there's that as well.
Could you post a link or some more info on the 22 conversion kit. I just got a Sar b6p three days ago and trying to find 9mm Ammo right now is a trick. I am trying to practice with this gun for my first shooting competition in July and I have a laser lite target system for dry fire practice but would like to do some live fire training too without using as much 9mm Ammo and I have over 2000 rounds of 22lr that I could use. Is the Manufacturer #: 109910. Any information would be greatly helpful and appreciated. Thanks for your time. Philip Anderson
Did you ever get around to trying the .40 S&W conversion on this? Currently, 9mm is pretty hard to find in my area, but .40 S&W is easy to get, leading me to seriously consider the conversion.
Darin, which do you think has the better trigger: the small frame Witness or the B6. The B6 vids I've seen show a not-so-crisp trigger with a long reset. Any thoughts are appreciated as I'm eyeing the Rock Island Armory Mapp which is a clone of the small frame Witness and the B6. Thank you.
Great review - could you post a vendor link for the MecGar 17 rd. magazine you use for the B6P? There is some confusion as to what works and what doesn't in the CZ clones. Again, thanks for the review - good info.
No problem, there are links in the description now. I think I got mine from Buds, but Midway and I'm sure others carry them as well. The product sku is MGCZ7517AFC. Thanks for the compliment on the video and for watching.
Good video. I'm on a Turkish gun roll also.. Good shooters for the price... Which is your favorite so far? Looking at adding a T120 or P120. Subscribed!!
Yeah, I’ve had a tp9sa for a few years now and have always liked that pistol even with my disdain for most striker fired triggers. The shark fc, as far as I can tell was only imported for a couple years by ROX out of NJ. Around the time tristar began importing the caniks, I stopped seeing the rox imports. I’m sure tristar could import a t120 with the compensated barrel like the shark fc, but as far as I know they never have. There really isn’t much difference when shooting the t120 back to back with the shark fc though, they are both very controllable and easy to shoot.
SAR (Sarsilmaz) is No Longer Affiliated with EAA in Florida. EAA is a Third Party Importer & not owned by Sarsilmaz. Around 2018, Sarsilmaz established its OWN Wholly-Owned Subsidiary which now Imports all SAR Products. It is named "SAR USA" & its headquartered is in Auburn, Alabama
Oh definitely. The conversion kit comes with a 10 round magazine and you can purchase more by getting EAA magazine 109913 for small frame 22 conversion. The conversion kits must come in occasionally in batches though and it appears right now there aren't many available. At least at the sources I've used in the past.
Hello there from Miami, florida. I know the cz 75b mags work in this gun but I heard that the base plate has to be the flat metal one, not the one that comes with the cz75b mags from mecgar with the blue follower. How does one find the flush fit metal base plates? Or do you buy them seperately? I apologize if this is a noob question I just here conflicting stories. thank you in advance for all your gun reviews.
Yeah, I've read of others having to do this, but I have not encountered this issue. The mecgar CZ75b 17 rounders (with the plastic baseplate) work fine in my SAR B6P, EAA small frame witnesses, Jericho 941, and all my Tristar caniks. I have read another solution is to remove the baseplate from the magazine and lightly sand the top part of the baseplate to remove just a tad bit of material so that the mag catch engages properly.
Darink300zx thank you for the reply. I saw a video where someone said that these mags (Mec Gar MGCZ7516B) work. These are also for the cz 75b but are 16 rounders with a metal base plate. I recently bought two sars and want to buy at least 8 or nine mags but dont wanna invest in the wrong ones. Do you have any insight into these? Funny enough, I saw a forum post you made about turkish shotguns. I think they were discussing the linberta lstac which I own. Small world I guess?
lol, yeah, that is funny. I still have that Linberta, nice semi auto shotgun. As to the those Mecgar mags with the steel buttplates, I have not used those, so I have no advice one way or the other. I've always just got the 17 rounders with the plastic buttplate. I always figured if they didn't lock in good, it would be easy to remove the buttplate, sand down the side facing the mag body, check for fit, etc. I've not had to do that though, just my thoughts on why I get them.
great video I really like my SAR I also have a witness 10mm was told that the 6" barrel would work in it also any experience or advice shared would be greatly appreciated
ronnie huskins I have a few witnesses, but not in 10mm. Are you asking if the witness barrel will work in the SAR, or if a 6” barrel would fit a witness 10mm? If the latter, check EAAs website for conversion kits for the 10mm witness, if the former, I wouldn’t try anything other than 22 or 40 in the SAR, since it is closer to a small frame witness than a large frame.
darink300zx I have a witness 10mm with a 4.5" barrel I have been told that the witness Hunter 10mm that has the 6" barrel will work in my my gun I've looked at the barrels on there website page and look the same just different in length
I'm not completely sure, but I don't think so. There may be some way to install an ambi safety that's intended for a EAA witness though, but again, I'm not sure. This gun is pretty much a clone of the small frame witness, so I'd think a lot of parts would interchange. Sorry if that doesn't help much.
+darink300zx hey thanks for your help. I meant to reply weeks ago but I decided to go with the witness instead. your video actually got me looking into them. pick up my PS tomorrow and cannot wait!!! ($284 to my FFL) tyvm for the excellent video.
Paul Cote that's a tough question, I like them both equally. If you have no need for the accessory rail (or just don't like it) I'd go with the SAR. Otherwise I'd go with the one you can find cheapest. They are both bargains and I've had no issues with either. Since I generally don't use the accessory rail (and have many that I can use if I do need one) I prefer the cleaner lines of the SAR.
thanks! I have the compact SAR and it fits my hand perfectly. I didn't know how the larger ones would also fit. Also, some people complained about sharp edges on the SAR but I can't feel them on my compact.
I just got the full size and I compared it to the compact. The compact handle with the baseplate makes the compact handle maybe only 1/4 inch shorter than the full size. I ordered some what I hope are flat baseplates that I hope fit and then maybe will hack the bottom of the handle on it to make it really a compact... not sure if I will do that but going to check it out. I guess if you mixed the compact and the full size, you would get a K2P. CDNN has them cheap and also the CM9 for ten bucks more but the CM9, I am not sure if the grip is small enough for me. But, it has three backstraps. The B6P fits my hand perfectly. Nice and thin grip for a double stack.
If you had to choose one, a canik, witness, or sar, which one would you get? I'm thinking of getting a cz variant, but i'm not sure which one to go for.
Good question, disregarding price and availability (for instance the small frame witness, polymer or steel frame is kind of hard to find now), I think it really depends on whether you want polymer frame or steel frame. I'm also assuming you want a small frame witness and not large frame so that you can use CZ75b magazines, so all my references to the witness are about the small frame. If you want steel or aluminum frame then the Canik is the way to go, they are very good pistols and very close to CZs. Cajun Gun Works has some upgrade parts available, if you're into that sort of thing, and there are a lot of different models to choose from. If polymer is your thing, the SAR B6p is readily available now that SAR USA is importing them exclusively, and is pretty much a clone of the witness PS, which as pointed out earlier is harder to find. In reality the only thing the witness ps has over it is the accessory rail under the barrel, which some may prefer, but I am indifferent to, just depends on what you want to use it for. For instance, for home defense I'd want that rail for a light. The SAR B6P even takes the witness 22 conversion so you can plink at the range with cheap 22lr ammo. As for reliability and dependability, I've not had any serious issues with any of them. I have seen accounts of the SAR and Witness having the steel rail inserts coming loose from the polymer frame and having to be repaired, but at least with EAA not sure about SAR USA, they have a lifetime warranty for the original buyer so shouldn't cost much to repair. Lastly, for me, if I had to choose one, I'd probably go with the Canik because I prefer the look and feel of a steel frame gun. The Tristar S120, P120, and T120(alloy frame) are all readily available, less than 400 bucks generally, and are all quite good pistols. As mentioned before, I was focused on the small frame witnesses, but if you did go to the large frame models, you'd get a lot more choices in regards to frames and calibers, with the caveat that large frame witnesses in 9mm won't accept CZ75b magazines and have a slightly larger grip than the small frames. Hope that helps, I could go on and on, but I feel like I'm just jumping all over the place. You really can't go wrong with any of them, just depends on your specific likes/dislikes and intended use for the pistol.
Great info been eyeing this type of gun for a while thanks. Although I've noticed on other reviews of the tanfoglio people seem to have issues with the gun not sighting properly.
Felipe Rodriguez you’re welcome, thanks for watching. It can be hit or miss with the sights. I’ve been fairly lucky that the elevation is usually spot on with the ones I’ve gotten (other than a .45 witness I had years ago), however, some I have seen need a little drifting of the rear sight to get the windage just right, but that may just be me anyway.
You are doing wrong, do you pull trigger do fast and hard like measuring trigger? I do not think so, pull trigger slowly both shooting and measuring. 3-4lbs sa and around 10lbs da.
I do in mine and one other utube poster commented on it also,run your fingers up and down the barrel next time you clean it, doesn't seem to effect the way it shoots though
Devian Aguilar no updates really, it's at my brothers place right now, but it still looks about the same. It's actually one of the nicer looking aks I have. Hope to have a new video about the second gen PSA ak out soon.
It's great you have all this experience, but with folks like me that purchased a used pistol,you are flipping through functions without showing how. Like the breakdown, I tried several times with my SAR B6P and could not get the lever out. I also wanted to see the safety lever engagement, since mine is so stiff I have to reposition myself to engage the safety and on yours it was like greased lightning. You have different audiences I understand, but we all are not experts...we are trying to figure out if we are spending our bucks wisely... just saying got mine out of a large auction in good condition $199.00 plus grouped shipping maybe another 5 bucks with a belt holster. Looked like someones everyday carry, just wanted a cz75 , but could not afford the used ones at auction.
Just got one a day ago put 200 rounds through it shoots fine love It noticed that if I pulled trigger half way hammer holds that position half cocked then fully cooked if hammer is pulled back I don't like that even on safety it will do it so safety on pull trigger it will pull the hammer back half cocked won't give you a full trigger pull but you have to pull it still don't think that's cool reached out to the manufacturer no response yet on that
Bought one of these thanks to you brother! Liked it so much I had to buy a second one. Bar none its the best pistol for 250 I've ever come across. Cheers!
Always good to hear that I helped someone spend their money, I always offer my friends this service, but they just laugh at me. I agree though, great handgun, highly underrated.
Thanks for the vid I have owned this gun for probably 6years and am by far the most accurate with it than any other gun I own but the info in your video is very helpful for mags and components
Really enjoyed your review. I hadn't noticed that the slide cycles while safety is on. That's a feature shared by M&P pistols and something I appreciate. Also, thanks for checking the trigger pull.
Rich Weatherly you’re welcome. Thank you for the kind words.
Very informative review! Probably the best I've seen of at least 25 video reviews! Interesting about the conversion kits--I had no idea. I would imagine this one could almost be considered an of Italian origins or at least a close cousin to the Tanfoglio Witness. I have a B6P on layaway at my local gun shop ($280) and ordered an additional mag from Cheaper Than Dirt. Can't wait to get this one to the range. Cheers!
Rick Bish thank you. It is a very nice gun and an excellent value. Don't tell anyone but I may like this one more than my witness ps, lol.
nice review Sir. Sarsilmaz b6p was first known as sarsilmaz bernardelli and the started producing this gun in 2006 .They purchased the equipment's from Bernardelli Italy . i have this gun too since2011. Greetings from Pakistan.
Cool information and thank you for the kind words. Greetings to you from America.
you know I think it was first in production in 2005 because mine is stamped as that unless i'm confusing the numbers say mine is #2005 produced? Anyhow I love mine as well..great gun.....
SARSILMAZ has had a firearm manufacturing facility for in Turkey since 1880.
Bought the Stainless (B69ST) version of this and it comes with 2 magazines now. Great gun and even better price.
Yes, these guns are highly underrated.
Excellent review!
Great video showing different model pistols and how they compare to the SAR arms B6P.
Thank you. I consistently buy, sell, trade firearms from time to time to fund others, but this one has and will continue to survive that peril. lol.
Great video ! Didn't know about the .22 conversation kit , I'll have to look into that .
I've had my B6P for a couple of years now . Probably have 6 or 7 hundred rounds through it . Never have had any issues at all . I've shot the wide hollow points ( Gold Dots , HST , SIG V-Crowns ) , and even one mag of lead mold bullets . It just works . When I bought my gun from SWVG , they had factory Sar mags for $24 , so I bought two more . so all told I've got $310 in the gun with 3 mags . I'm highly satisfied with it , and I would recommend it . Lot of bang for the buck .
Tracy Stubblèfield thanks for the compliments. The b6p is indeed an underrated gun, with way more IMO than that they sell for, definite bargain.
I also liked and subscribed and thank you for the informative video! It was actually more informative then the owners manual itself :-) keep up the good work!
Love this gun ! GREAT VID.
Thank you. I also love this gun, it's one of the best value guns I've come across.
Nice informative video Darin, I learned some things about the B6P I purchased back in 2015 that I had no idea about. I also own a Canik TP9SA and I'm about to purchase a Tristar T-120 ; )
Thank you. I also have the TP9SA and T120 and would recommend them as well. Turkey makes some nice firearms.
it's great to see good guns that come at good prices
Indeed.
Excellent review, excellent guns, excellent comparison, excellent vid man, nice job, tank you.
Antonio R thank you for the kind words. I hope to have some more vids up after the new year, been having some computer issues so can't edit the video lately. Thanks again.
just got a tristar s120 after watching your videos.love it sofar. have had b6pc for a couple years now.trigger has gotten much better
Cool to hear. I've went back and forth on getting the B6PC. I can't decide between it or possibly a Tristar P100. They are both compact, but the P100 is steel and much heavier I'm sure, but I really like these SAR guns. I still have my S120 and it's still a beauty and fun to shoot.
darink300zx I bought SAR B6P compact last year. Excellent gun. Eats any ammo and zero failures in couple hundred rounds. Cheaper than Dirt has CZ75B mags @$25 Been shooting 55 years and this is my favorite to shoot
Agreed, one of the best values out on the market right now. I really can't even say I would recommend the witness PS (which is a gun I really like) over this one, unless you wanted the accessory rail on the dustcover. Excellent shooter and great value.
Do you still have your Sarzilmaz B6P, if so do you carry it?
I do, but I have not used it as a carry gun.
@@darink300zx Thank you for responding. The Sarzilmaz B6P is a real smooth shooter.
I can't get mine to reassemble. The slide won't go all the way on
@@silkysmooth-vk2ux You're doing something wrong. Watch the TH-cam videos. The slide should slide right on to the lower part. Enjoy your Sarb6p.
@@highsecurityagent8778 I forgot about posting this it was fixed about an hour after I put that post on there. There's a part called the safety sheet or part number 51 you have to have it correctly on and everything fits
If the SAR B6 9mm is good enough for the Turkish Police Dept, ist good enough for me! Opelika, Alabama finest product.
Recently purchased a new SAR B6. My CZ 75 magazines will not work in the SAR B6. CZ 75 magazines are too short to lock in. SAR B6 magazines are a little longer than CZ 75 magazines. Easy enough to file .050" off the B6 polymer grip so as to accommodate CZ 75 magazines but that might affect the pistol's warranty. Also, the SAR magazines now over insert and stop on the ejector, which some say will create a problem over time. SA Trigger pull on my pistol is 4.5#.
@@thinman8621 that’s interesting. Do the cz75 mags have a metal or plastic baseplate and what is the capacity of the cz mags, 16 or 17? I know there are some cz75 mags that may not work but I’ve always bought the ones marketed as cz75b mags and they work in all my tanfoglio based clones, like the SAR.
@@darink300zx One mag is a 16rd metal base Mec Gar. One mag is a 18rd polymer base CZ that came with a CZ 75 SP-01. Both mags work perfectly in the CZ. Both are too short to lock into the SAR. No amount of pounding will seat either mag in the SAR -- they really are too short.
@@thinman8621 that is odd, I do think I remember that the 16r mecgar mags didn’t work well for some but the 17r mecgars do, which are the ones I get. I think I have some old 16r cz85 mags, I may have to try them in the b6 and see if they fit.
@@darink300zx Watched several TH-cam reviews of the B6. All said CZ mags interchange, although one mentioned CZ mags have to be firmly seated. Perhaps I'm the only guy who got a "long grip" B6.
Yea good review and good history Ullah. I'm weighing in kinda late as i bought mine say 3 months ago. Everything about it i like. Especially the crisp single action trigger. Can carry as you mentioned with safety on OR rack one with safety on, pretty handy. As far as accuracy goes i'm not competition BUT can pretty much core out a target @ 21 ft.. I holds steady and doesn't jump much. Look it's do the job PERIOD. Very comfy for larger hands and weight unloaded say 24 oz. I'll take it all day long. 15+1 Hydroshok 115 grn. 9mm. Actually even 124 grn. JHP Armscor work well too. Xtra mags easy to come by but maybe not original SAR.......
Yeah, very good pistol. SAR USA is now importing these instead of EAA. They have some other SAR products that they are looking at bringing in as well. I use the mecgar 17 rounders made for the CZ75b in mine with no issue.
Dont need the safety
Question (please): The internal rails on the (polymer) frame of the SAR B6P are polymer or metal?
There are little metal inserts within the polymer. Not full length like the metal framed tanfoglios, but not just polymer either. I have seen at least one witness ps where one of the metal inserts popped out and it had to be sent back for repair. In the video, it’s hard to make out but at around the 07:10 mark the inserts are on both sides of the gun, halfway down the frame and at the rear of the frame. The slide contacts the metal inserts and doesn’t slide on the polymer. Hope that helps.
@@darink300zx Thanks for the reply. I've a MEGA, but B6P weight, price point and (for me) hammer-DA/SA is tantalizing... but I do have some concern with longevity, particularly as my main use is OWB in woods, and it gets bumped around.
Good info video. Thanks. P.S. The intro music is a bit to loud.
Liked the video, very informative. I was looking at the witness steel frame and then i thought why not just get a cz 75b. I have a cz p-09 and really like it. Do you think the cz"s are worth the extra money?By the way i also have a canik tp9sa and i think it has a better trigger than the p-09. Also subbed and liked.
mulletman2m if this will tell you anything I have over 10 cz75 type guns, and only one is an actual CZ, a cz85. I just find it hard to pay the higher price, sometimes several hundred dollars more, for the actual cz when you have the caniks (s120, t120, p120, etc), SARs, and even the witnesses for so cheap. That's just me though, one thing with the witnesses, unless you get one of the higher priced elite models, you can't easily change out the front sight. So yeah, I don't think they are worth the extra money, but ymmv, and you definitely have better aftermarket support and resale value with the CZ so there's that as well.
Could you post a link or some more info on the 22 conversion kit. I just got a Sar b6p three days ago and trying to find 9mm Ammo right now is a trick. I am trying to practice with this gun for my first shooting competition in July and I have a laser lite target system for dry fire practice but would like to do some live fire training too without using as much 9mm Ammo and I have over 2000 rounds of 22lr that I could use. Is the Manufacturer #: 109910. Any information would be greatly helpful and appreciated. Thanks for your time. Philip Anderson
Fantastic review.
Thank you.
Did you ever get around to trying the .40 S&W conversion on this? Currently, 9mm is pretty hard to find in my area, but .40 S&W is easy to get, leading me to seriously consider the conversion.
Great gun for the price!
Darin, which do you think has the better trigger: the small frame Witness or the B6. The B6 vids I've seen show a not-so-crisp trigger with a long reset. Any thoughts are appreciated as I'm eyeing the Rock Island Armory Mapp which is a clone of the small frame Witness and the B6. Thank you.
Great review - could you post a vendor link for the MecGar 17 rd. magazine you use for the B6P? There is some confusion as to what works and what doesn't in the CZ clones. Again, thanks for the review - good info.
No problem, there are links in the description now. I think I got mine from Buds, but Midway and I'm sure others carry them as well. The product sku is MGCZ7517AFC. Thanks for the compliment on the video and for watching.
Thanks - just what I was looking for!
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Good video. I'm on a Turkish gun roll also.. Good shooters for the price... Which is your favorite so far? Looking at adding a T120 or P120.
Subscribed!!
Streaydog 01 hard to pick a favorite, but the t120 (or better if you can find one a shark fc) and the p120 are at the top for sure.
@@darink300zx Well I had to ask. Trying not to end up with both.🤣🤣 I picked up a Canik Tpsa and love that gun too. Got a Sarz also.. great shooters..
Shark Fc are really hard to find.. smh
Yeah, I’ve had a tp9sa for a few years now and have always liked that pistol even with my disdain for most striker fired triggers. The shark fc, as far as I can tell was only imported for a couple years by ROX out of NJ. Around the time tristar began importing the caniks, I stopped seeing the rox imports. I’m sure tristar could import a t120 with the compensated barrel like the shark fc, but as far as I know they never have. There really isn’t much difference when shooting the t120 back to back with the shark fc though, they are both very controllable and easy to shoot.
I actually out shot a glock and sig at a competition with this very gun. I love it. They weren’t laughing afterwards
Very nice, like to hear that, although doesn’t surprise me, they are great shooters. Thanks for the comment.
SAR (Sarsilmaz) is No Longer Affiliated with EAA in Florida. EAA is a Third Party Importer & not owned by Sarsilmaz.
Around 2018, Sarsilmaz established its OWN Wholly-Owned Subsidiary which now Imports all SAR Products.
It is named "SAR USA" & its headquartered is in Auburn, Alabama
True story.
Can you find holsters and after market sites for it?
What’s the light your using & holster
Great vid. Question is 22 conversion single shot only or is a magazine available? Thanks. I have SARB6P compact and love it.
Oh definitely. The conversion kit comes with a 10 round magazine and you can purchase more by getting EAA magazine 109913 for small frame 22 conversion. The conversion kits must come in occasionally in batches though and it appears right now there aren't many available. At least at the sources I've used in the past.
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Hello there from Miami, florida. I know the cz 75b mags work in this gun but I heard that the base plate has to be the flat metal one, not the one that comes with the cz75b mags from mecgar with the blue follower. How does one find the flush fit metal base plates? Or do you buy them seperately? I apologize if this is a noob question I just here conflicting stories. thank you in advance for all your gun reviews.
Yeah, I've read of others having to do this, but I have not encountered this issue. The mecgar CZ75b 17 rounders (with the plastic baseplate) work fine in my SAR B6P, EAA small frame witnesses, Jericho 941, and all my Tristar caniks. I have read another solution is to remove the baseplate from the magazine and lightly sand the top part of the baseplate to remove just a tad bit of material so that the mag catch engages properly.
Darink300zx thank you for the reply. I saw a video where someone said that these mags (Mec Gar MGCZ7516B) work. These are also for the cz 75b but are 16 rounders with a metal base plate. I recently bought two sars and want to buy at least 8 or nine mags but dont wanna invest in the wrong ones. Do you have any insight into these? Funny enough, I saw a forum post you made about turkish shotguns. I think they were discussing the linberta lstac which I own. Small world I guess?
lol, yeah, that is funny. I still have that Linberta, nice semi auto shotgun. As to the those Mecgar mags with the steel buttplates, I have not used those, so I have no advice one way or the other. I've always just got the 17 rounders with the plastic buttplate. I always figured if they didn't lock in good, it would be easy to remove the buttplate, sand down the side facing the mag body, check for fit, etc. I've not had to do that though, just my thoughts on why I get them.
Go to Sar USA gun store on the internet and order what you want .
Great video nice shooting!! Thanks a lot sir!
Thank you for watching and the comment.
great video I really like my SAR I also have a witness 10mm was told that the 6" barrel would work in it also any experience or advice shared would be greatly appreciated
ronnie huskins I have a few witnesses, but not in 10mm. Are you asking if the witness barrel will work in the SAR, or if a 6” barrel would fit a witness 10mm? If the latter, check EAAs website for conversion kits for the 10mm witness, if the former, I wouldn’t try anything other than 22 or 40 in the SAR, since it is closer to a small frame witness than a large frame.
darink300zx I have a witness 10mm with a 4.5" barrel I have been told that the witness Hunter 10mm that has the 6" barrel will work in my my gun I've looked at the barrels on there website page and look the same just different in length
A very informative review, thanks for sharing. I liked and subscribed.
Thank you very much.
Will the b6p fire P+ ammo? Hallopoints?
I have the b6p and b6c and you CAN'T use p+ ammo but you can use standard pressure hallow points
Extended mag locations?
Cheaper than dirt!
Nicely done
Thanks.
I have the b6p and i love it shoots great
I think it's one of the best budget 9mm handguns on the market.
can the safety be switched to the opposite side for left handed shooters?
I'm not completely sure, but I don't think so. There may be some way to install an ambi safety that's intended for a EAA witness though, but again, I'm not sure. This gun is pretty much a clone of the small frame witness, so I'd think a lot of parts would interchange. Sorry if that doesn't help much.
Something else I just thought of, the SAR k2p uses an ambi-safety, so if you can find an ambi-safety for a K2P I'd bet money it'd fit the b6p.
+darink300zx hey thanks for your help. I meant to reply weeks ago but I decided to go with the witness instead. your video actually got me looking into them. pick up my PS tomorrow and cannot wait!!! ($284 to my FFL) tyvm for the excellent video.
Your welcome. Thanks for the kind words. The PS should serve you well, I have a couple and have had no issues. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Do you like the SAR better than the Tanfo? I am looking at both
Paul Cote that's a tough question, I like them both equally. If you have no need for the accessory rail (or just don't like it) I'd go with the SAR. Otherwise I'd go with the one you can find cheapest. They are both bargains and I've had no issues with either. Since I generally don't use the accessory rail (and have many that I can use if I do need one) I prefer the cleaner lines of the SAR.
thanks! I have the compact SAR and it fits my hand perfectly. I didn't know how the larger ones would also fit. Also, some people complained about sharp edges on the SAR but I can't feel them on my compact.
I don't have any sharp edges on the full size either and it fits my hand great, but then most of the CZ75 style guns do. They have great ergos.
I just got the full size and I compared it to the compact. The compact handle with the baseplate makes the compact handle maybe only 1/4 inch shorter than the full size. I ordered some what I hope are flat baseplates that I hope fit and then maybe will hack the bottom of the handle on it to make it really a compact... not sure if I will do that but going to check it out. I guess if you mixed the compact and the full size, you would get a K2P. CDNN has them cheap and also the CM9 for ten bucks more but the CM9, I am not sure if the grip is small enough for me. But, it has three backstraps. The B6P fits my hand perfectly. Nice and thin grip for a double stack.
If you had to choose one, a canik, witness, or sar, which one would you get? I'm thinking of getting a cz variant, but i'm not sure which one to go for.
Good question, disregarding price and availability (for instance the small frame witness, polymer or steel frame is kind of hard to find now), I think it really depends on whether you want polymer frame or steel frame. I'm also assuming you want a small frame witness and not large frame so that you can use CZ75b magazines, so all my references to the witness are about the small frame. If you want steel or aluminum frame then the Canik is the way to go, they are very good pistols and very close to CZs. Cajun Gun Works has some upgrade parts available, if you're into that sort of thing, and there are a lot of different models to choose from.
If polymer is your thing, the SAR B6p is readily available now that SAR USA is importing them exclusively, and is pretty much a clone of the witness PS, which as pointed out earlier is harder to find. In reality the only thing the witness ps has over it is the accessory rail under the barrel, which some may prefer, but I am indifferent to, just depends on what you want to use it for. For instance, for home defense I'd want that rail for a light. The SAR B6P even takes the witness 22 conversion so you can plink at the range with cheap 22lr ammo.
As for reliability and dependability, I've not had any serious issues with any of them. I have seen accounts of the SAR and Witness having the steel rail inserts coming loose from the polymer frame and having to be repaired, but at least with EAA not sure about SAR USA, they have a lifetime warranty for the original buyer so shouldn't cost much to repair.
Lastly, for me, if I had to choose one, I'd probably go with the Canik because I prefer the look and feel of a steel frame gun. The Tristar S120, P120, and T120(alloy frame) are all readily available, less than 400 bucks generally, and are all quite good pistols. As mentioned before, I was focused on the small frame witnesses, but if you did go to the large frame models, you'd get a lot more choices in regards to frames and calibers, with the caveat that large frame witnesses in 9mm won't accept CZ75b magazines and have a slightly larger grip than the small frames.
Hope that helps, I could go on and on, but I feel like I'm just jumping all over the place. You really can't go wrong with any of them, just depends on your specific likes/dislikes and intended use for the pistol.
darink300zx Great points, thanks for the reply man. Take care brother.
darink300zx Great points, thanks for the reply man. Take care brother.
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Great info been eyeing this type of gun for a while thanks. Although I've noticed on other reviews of the tanfoglio people seem to have issues with the gun not sighting properly.
Felipe Rodriguez you’re welcome, thanks for watching. It can be hit or miss with the sights. I’ve been fairly lucky that the elevation is usually spot on with the ones I’ve gotten (other than a .45 witness I had years ago), however, some I have seen need a little drifting of the rear sight to get the windage just right, but that may just be me anyway.
How much was it?
steve mcdaniel I paid around 280 for it after taxes. I've seen them as low as 240 though.
You are doing wrong, do you pull trigger do fast and hard like measuring trigger? I do not think so, pull trigger slowly both shooting and measuring. 3-4lbs sa and around 10lbs da.
has anyone noticed a slight swell in the barrel of their Sar
I have not, but I haven't shot mine in a while either. I think I would have noticed it last time I cleaned it though.
I do in mine and one other utube poster commented on it also,run your fingers up and down the barrel next time you clean it, doesn't seem to effect the way it shoots though
Hey how's it going I was wondering if you had any updates on your generation 1 psak how is all the metal looking and the trunnions?
Devian Aguilar no updates really, it's at my brothers place right now, but it still looks about the same. It's actually one of the nicer looking aks I have. Hope to have a new video about the second gen PSA ak out soon.
Veryy very very good video
Thank you very much!
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It's great you have all this experience, but with folks like me that purchased a used pistol,you are flipping through functions without showing how. Like the breakdown, I tried several times with my SAR B6P and could not get the lever out. I also wanted to see the safety lever engagement, since mine is so stiff I have to reposition myself to engage the safety and on yours it was like greased lightning.
You have different audiences I understand, but we all are not experts...we are trying to figure out if we are spending our bucks wisely... just saying
got mine out of a large auction in good condition $199.00 plus grouped shipping maybe another 5 bucks with a belt holster. Looked like someones everyday carry, just wanted a cz75 , but could not afford the used ones at auction.
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Just got one a day ago put 200 rounds through it shoots fine love It noticed that if I pulled trigger half way hammer holds that position half cocked then fully cooked if hammer is pulled back I don't like that even on safety it will do it so safety on pull trigger it will pull the hammer back half cocked won't give you a full trigger pull but you have to pull it still don't think that's cool reached out to the manufacturer no response yet on that
watching the video cuz 300zx
Sube Tube lol. Sorry. That's been my username on forums and such for years, so I kept it when I started this channel. Lol
darink300zx but you're still a Z enthusiast, so that's good enough
Sube Tube oh yeah, love the z's. I've had a few over the years, favorite was my z32 tt.
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It sounds really cheap....
You sound crazy