Michael Jackson & Tatiana: Lover, User, or Obsessed Fanatic? | Part 1 | the detail.
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- Michael Jackson and Tatiana Thumbtzen for a brief period in 1987/1988 had a whirlwind affair. Tatiana, who featured as MJ's girl in his music video for 'The Way You Make Me Feel', was utterly starstruck as well as mesmerised by the famed pop icon and hoped for love to blossom.
But as quickly as their affections began, the fling ended with Tatiana being pushed out of his inner circle. But what happened? Here is the full detail...
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“Don’t kiss him! He is too shy for that” why are they treating him like a baby?!?
@@Elena-er7zp they obviously didnt know because Michael himself gave the go ahead! His "team" were just control power hungry freaks that didnt want him falling in love and drifting from his money making plans they wanted for him so they could be rich! its all about greed! disgusting :(
@@Sgotya yes... good artist, who creating much ,must be unhappy and sad. And from his creativity they took their money... just job. Soo sad for MJ.
Riiight!!! He was down! Lmao They treating Michael like some super innocent soul. I mean he is but he was definitely down for whatever she was planning to do when he pulled his shirt 😂
You can’t just kiss any random person you barely know it was business and in business you have rules and maybe Michael didn’t want to be kissed
@@only1_bigzorri24 he did want to be kissed that's the thing lol he wanted it and showed no signs he didn't want it
imagine being a major fan of someone and then just running into them on the street and getting to work with them...tatiana was really living the y/n life
ikrrr
NJ
I want that to happen to me with Bone thugs ! 🙂
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Lol
He invited her back to his family's house, introduced her to everyone including his Mom. His Mom said he was falling in love with her. The Dancers said her kissing his cheek made him happy, they had chemistry, she called him and ASKED if she could kiss him- he said yes- then he provoked her on stage. HE LIKED HER. So easy to see that. BUT his toxic business team got in the way! Ugh!
Интересно, где находилась и чем занималась эта,, бизнес команда,, когда Майкл был в плохом состоянии, когда он умирал? Лицемеры!
Says who? She was a paid actress model. He never took her home to meet his Mom. Where did you read this nonsense?
@@MIN45229 uuh it said in the video did u even watch the clip ? 😭 and in her book 💀
@@brianna1731 A Tatiana no la querían en casa de Michael, si llegaba a su casa pero por cuenta propia y la sacaron, porque lo acosaba demasiado. No digo que quizás le gustaba, el lenguaje corporal de Michael dice SI, pero la misma timidez de él y el acoso de sus productores, de hacer que solo hiciera $, hizo que perdiera el poco interés, a él le encantaba lo que hacía y lo llenaron de cosas para no centrar su tiempo en nadie… ella no me gusta para él, para mi siempre será Michael/Lisa 👩❤️💋👨👩❤️👨😍
@@brianna1731 translation exists on here, why be rude?
Michael picked her out of 200 women. That's all I'm gonna say
Lets just say Michael Made the right choice
He hand picked all his dancers even for this is it
Then she must've been really special then ❤
I bet he would’ve never picked me he would probably think I’m ugly af lol
And said the magic words “ she’s the one “
As jealous as I was of her, I wish they’d have ended up together. I think his life would’ve been so much happier.
Not really they may be physically made for each other or look like they can be a potentially good couple, but that’s far as appearance goes , Tatiana did talk smack about him in a few interviews for money , she wasn’t truly genuine, I don’t believe he was really truly in love with her , or none of this would have happened. His real true love was Diana Ross , if you’re an MJ fan you’d know how crazy in love he was with this woman , I really wish he would’ve had a loving wife he could trust that didn’t use him.
Maybe she was even in love with him he deserves her sucks that the media intentionally ruined the relationship that was purely genuine
I'm jealous lol
@@Hyperact1ve_zeec Wrong!She has never trashed him and if so-I want proof. She always supported and defended him...AND got invited to his funeral by Katherine Jackson herself
Fr
This woman was so beautiful and talented It's horrible how she was treated by those people So much toxicity and jealousy Disgusting
I bet you won't even reply when I say I am being abused since 13 years by the music industry enemies, racist scum that worked against Michael Jackson, my private data, company work, every file, coercion to go into expensive international Court battle fighting for my life, but this is what matters huh until iz too late and I will never acknowledge you again after you say sorry watching the court case that could kill me as my privacy was raped against my will just because of the real Michael connection, Fans are now tabloid junkies....
That's the world of showbizz.
@@PTRK490 No doubt😰
@@PTRK490 no, it's the world of ROMAN GLADIATOR TYPE SHOWBUSINESS, and not natural, and in many aspects corrupt and criminal, dark and evil. Michael Jackson FOUGHT with all his force to bring this truth out and protect real artistry and respect for minority artists etc and human beings...
MYSTERYGARDEN777 I 100% agree with you. People can be really evil. They really destroyed this poor man's life.
If Michael and Tatiana had ended up together honestly he might have had a better life.
I highly doubt it she would've just been another divorce
I'm sure MJ would've had a better life married to Tatiana
I agree with all the comments ☝️☝️✌️
I agree. She was genuine
@@SoldierOfLoveForNow ....high profile people hardly stay married, it's rare. But they would have had at least a decade of marriage & 2 kids.
Imagine how gorgeous their kids would have been
I liked Naomi too
Off of In the Closet
maybe he would have been a live and saved now, When a man is in love with a woman who loves him , he becomes a better person...
Don't let the plastic surgery fool you.
Hmmm Tatiana is a transgirl, she was born a male, I doubt she can get pregnant
Sounds like He was being controlled to me, he can’t date who he wants unless he gets an ok from the higher ups.
Just like K-pop singers these days, so it could had been totally possible
Michael wasn't sexually interested in women.
MJ as an adult was never controlled by anyone.
@@user-gi6ee8vj1y He was, stop talking nonsense
@@eyelandgal no, he wasn't. Have you seen the home video Michael took, focusing on a man's buttocks?
At the of the day...She got to kiss Michael Jackson..MULTIPLE times. A feat that no one in the human race will ever accomplish again
And lisa marie...
@@rzafra1213 That scene with Tatiana was 88, Michael married Lisa-Marie in 94 and dated her two year earlier!
I think Lisa Marie got a better deal. She got to marry, kiss, and have sex with Michael. Plus they almost had kids together. It’s said he still loved her up until his death. Titiana never had, and can’t compete with any of that.
Many girls kissed MJ lol but she’s lucky asf
um actually Tatiana use to date prince nelson but she did was in the short film called the way you make me feel one of michael's songs and she was in behind the scenes of leave me alone another one of his songs but even though she did kissed him but he did liked it but it was like very unexpected and not rehearsed and that's why she was fired from that kiss and from that sheryl crow that tooked over her spot but not a long time but she did totally used michael for his fame and his first ex wife lisa the goldigger/a blood money hungry monster that did used him for his money his fame and for sex but i did found out that her son Ben that died as well though so
She is a natural beauty. She and Michael looked incredible together: she is like a female version of him minus surgery and vitiligo. It’s so remarkable.
The kiss wasn't a mistake. It was the BEST thing in her live, she could do. They both felt the right thing, so nothing in this was false. 🥰
I always felt he saw himself in her. The attraction was strong!
He wanted to moonwalk in that a** 😅😅
@@Jiron127 XD
@@Jiron127 eww that’s gross! Just cos u like it doesn’t mean the rest of the world wants to know about it!
@@deckhead33 its a joke chill.
He probably did see himself in her.... Until management stepped in and c**kblocked 😂
She risked it all. As a chronic obsessor of Michael Jackson, I cannot blame her.
Me neither. Also he was provoking her
normalising obsession. These people nowadays.
@@dorisfenella he learned from Diana Ross
Lmao same
Theres no reason she shouldn't have been a supermodel she is absolutely gorgeous
Her life is a perfect wattpad fan fiction
@Mike Tati Forever I had this weird dream this one night where I was watching a documentary about MJ. Kinda like Leaving Neverland but instead with Shana and Tatiana telling their stories about their "romantic time" with MJ. I woke up and had a good laugh😂
Righttt and I was so jealous of her too😂 Man she was lucky
🤣
YES, YES, YES
FOR REAL LMAO
If he was with her, he would be happier and his life would be completely different
That was what was missing in his life. Real Love. And Michael was childlike that is probably why they treated him like a baby. He should have dated whoever he wanted. Whether they were black white green. I'm a white women. I think those men were pricks. No wonder Michael had a hard time trusting anyone. They are always after what they want and need. He should have dated her and tell them all to go to hell.
@@lishamarlar4597 absolutely!!
@@lishamarlar4597 You're absolutely right.
@@lishamarlar4597 But he could have told them all to go to hell like he did many times every time his wishes were not fulfilled. Frank Dileo was fired overnight, so it's obvious that he didn't have that much power. It's funny how you all put the blame on external people instead of realizing Michael's responsibility for his choices.
Shuttup. He didn’t want to be a woman 🙄
His manager had no right to tell her those things
They loved each other but the sleazy fake two face parasites intervened attacked them and separated them. Sadly it hurt Michael.
Yeah I hate what Frank did to Tatiana.
and karen faye lying on her too a now mi hate karen faye more after this video.
@@alexcholagh8330 My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
So sad! When you realize all MJ wanted was a family and true love. He could've had it, but he was just too much of a superstar. I imagine how heartbroken this girl was. That would be so rough :(
I think she really loved him. They would have been great. I see why his team didn’t want it to happen. He was at the height of the career and they wanted him focused on that, not settling down. Most male stars are urged to stay single while they’re young to play into that heart throb thing.
Even Selena's father did not want her to marry so young. He was concerned that she would lose the allure I suppose.
@@pebbles2482 Yep, I read that too. No wonder her and Chris eloped ❤
Honestly she was put in a compromising position, then fired for just being human......crazy in my opinion.
@Luna EB that's true but they played her imo. Not sure Michael had anything to do with it but she got played. To have her that close to The Greatest Entertainer ever then fired over a simple kiss is like putting food in front of a hungry person then telling them not too eat. 😕
@Luna EBI disagree, at that time MJ was the man and his team didn't want anything or anyone having him lose focus or interfering with their pockets.
@Joel Johnson you could be right but Tatiana control that moment that went down in history. Love it.
@Joel Johnson we'll never know the truth about how MJ really felt towards Tatiana because during those times he was the man and a serious relationship wasn't in the cards whether he wanted it or not, his manager and team definitely didn't. They didn't want anyone messing with their MJ cash. 🙂
@Joel Johnson one thing I do agree on, MJ was only seen with famous women that's for sure, heck when you're the man that's typical.
I mean.. there was chemistry there... wow
Fr lol
They looked good together.
My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
@@jamsng Wow. That is sad. Why should they have had the power or right to make decisions about Michael Jackson's private life and possibility of being happy.
He had better chemistry with 7 year-old boys
“don’t kiss him, he’s too shy for that” I wanted to see the kiss 😤
Shy? Are you kidding?
That’s the only female version of MJ that’ll ever be. Notice how those two have similarities in their features.
Umm he had surgery
@@rbgsista9236 with one of his best nose ever.
y’all only think they look alike because they were both lightskin.. don’t forget that MJ got surgery
So true. Even if MJ had surgery, he had never modelled it on Tatyana. Image you come across someone who looks so similar to you and of the opposite sex.
Also Janet
I talked to her on FB years ago and she was the sweetest person ever. I don't remember our entire conversation, but I do remember how nice it was talking to her
I did too!! She’s the best, very nice woman
@@amaramellahairstylist1079 I also talked to Ola but I don't remember if she was nice or not. But Tatiana was super sweet and chill
Ikrrrr I talked to her she was so sweet and she even wished me a happy birthday years ago
Me too! She was actually my friend on facebook.
@@chaneledmonson9238 I thought she wouldn't even answer to me so when she did, I kinda fangirled a bit because when I was younger I wanted to be her
Lmao bruh . Well physically, they make a helluva attractive couple & that’s all ima say
Why cuz she lightskin?💀
judy walter I didn’t even say that shit, now did I? 🥴💀 I know he would look better w/ me too, & I’m black
See I don't understand that, I mean he ended up prettier and more effeminate than she was. Is an effeminate, or androgynous looking man at best, really attractive to women?
If you're being realistic, you would have to admit that most women would not find MJ attractive as a man, he literally carved the masculinity off of his face. MJ was actually more masculine as a 9 year old if you go back and watch his performances and interviews.
Are you honestly telling me that you'd find a man finding faults with his face attractive? If you are, I know you're lying, it's a turn off for women when men do not have confidence in themselves and I can't see plastic surgery being much of a turn on either.
Pre surgery MJ before the suits got to him? Maybe...
I just don't understand where some fans are coming from.
Long Lost Puss blah blah 🥴😴💀
judy walter How TF did you make this into a racist comment??? They did make an attractive couple.. So did him and Diana Ross and Brooke Shields but not Lisa Marie. lol I couldn’t get into them ..🙄
She deserved so much more 🥺
Dude, the crew is insane. Ugh, as a kid growing up and watching his videos, I loved these two! I think they would have made a great couple. Tragic.
I think she was more of a wife material than Diana Ross and Presley
Yeah same I completely agree idk why but Presley never really wanted to be his wife or was in love with him she just did it for the convenience so she could get back at her mother.
Mhm
Ross did not feel same way as MJ had
@@rachaelnelson4976 frrrrr and I hated that she kinda dragged him along like she def made it evident that she didn’t like MJ like that but she would playfully flirt with him sometimes knowing how he felt and I’m like 😀. Cmon miss Diana don’t do my mans like that
@@morgenteart7119 all their pictures look staged, even when they kiss on stage it look uncomfortably planned…to give Michael the benefit of the doubt he clearly had an anxiety disorder
I got a once in a lifetime chance to meet Michael while my dad worked with him even though I was a toddler I still remember it as if it was yesterday he was the nicest person on earth 🙏🏽
That's so nice!
I met his brothers after a concert in Europe. They were so nice and friendly, just like MJ. (also seen on stage ). Just hate those people surrounding him with only $$$ in their eyes.
She went to my gym in Florida and from what she says she was getting close to MIchael and his manager didn't want her. It had been years at that point. But the pain was real you could see it. You have to wonder how different his life could have been. She was still very beautiful,
There is no other personality like Michael Jackson.
Tati, you go girl! You will forever go down in history as the girl who kissed Michael on stage. You did the right thing even though you were fully aware that you would get fired!!! I applaud you for your guts. My only wish now is to know Michael's side of events.
Big balls Tatiana yeah for kissing MJ why the Fk no ?!!!!❤❤
Of all thet actresses Tatiana should l d of been the ones he's beautiful they should of got married and had children itcwas nice for Lisa presley but Tatiana belonged to be with m I cheal
What the hell is a kiss even worth ? 💋
It’s super fascinating that Tatiana had a five year modeling career in Japan! Really never cared about the media sensation of their friendship/relationship but was always interested in her background, so that’s a fun fact of history that she should highlight more often.
Nobody cares about her bro
@@user-nf4mn3sx3rWrong you are.
Damn it was so worth being a model and dancer back then it was deemed an ACTUAL craft you got paid real good money for & you worked with/for real legends not like nowadays
His smile was EVERYTHING to and for me. I was SO in love with him back then
M.J. shouldv'e handle that and put those yes men, in their place!
Exactly
@@ProofCare Yes, you are so right!!!! I really agree with you!
Yes. He should have not listened to the "yes" men. He should have ran his own life.
@@kathybryson7539 I think Michael was young, and remember he was forced from his father to obey and listen to authorities. He was also in the beginning of his career and trusted those people. He learned all his life to listen to the advice of older people that his music career was more important then his private life.
Well, that was his downfall. He needed a private life. Also, if you have money, you have to keep up with how it is handled.
I heard that she also dated Prince. And when she got fired, she went to the tabloids and sold a story about her and Michael. The funny thing is that Prince apparently called her and was like " You're that broke now?"😂
Girl ain't have no sense in her head 😂
Why is Prince so damn petty 😂 I truly miss him 💔
LOL i heard she and Prince dated like rumours but im not sure if it was confirmed maybe people saw her around Prince and just assumed but yes he did let her have it for selling MJ story or talking to tabloids about MJ and Prince was damn right.
@@kg7507 lol
@@kg7507 My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
But she killed herself in MJ mind and heart when she spoke to the tabloids.
I am appalled that there are people in the entertainment world that are allowed to do this to artists. I love Michael Jackson but it was his fault. (God rest him). He should have made it clear if he was really interested in Tatiana and others should have minded their own business. Maybe Michael would have had a normal life and still be living today if he had been with her. There was certainly a positive chemistry - I sense true love between them.
Another thing - entertainers are not the public's personal property. What the hell was everyone carrying on over a kiss on stage - how ridiculous and sickening. Michael should have never tolerated such nonsense. His personal life and relationships we just as important as everyone else's. How pathetic can people be!
After they got rid of Tatiana all the other performances of TWYMMF Live were not the same because you could tell it was just a performance and not real like the chemistry Tatiana and MJ had. They really had feelings for each other.
The truth is he really liked her, BUT his "people", including some family members wanted him to appear to be single, and sexually pure.....Which was STUPID because he was a grown man, but he didn't realize that at the time....Also, some in his own camp didn't love him at all, they loved the money, he found out the hard way. But, she needs to know that, yes he was attracted to her
That's so sad. Because, you think the people around you have your best interest, when in fact they don't even care about you. How is it that, all his brothers have wives, kids and these normal relationships, but Micheal couldn't.
But, at the same time, would he be the massive worldwide Superstar that he grew up to become if he was in a real relationship. The level of dedication that it took for him to be at that level, required so much sacrifice.
But, could you imagine how differently their lives would have changed if Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston had announced to the world they were dating.
Wow. That would have been crazy 😀
never had a childhood
@@rogermeadowstaylor3256 Joe Jackson saw that money. Especially, when he realized the millions of dollars he could make with this 9 year old little boy
What bullshit! His stage image was of a sexy, hot, alpha Male, not an innocent kid. His people (family, friends, workers) would have been delighted if he had a relationship with a woman.
All of them tried hard to make Michael more interested in women than children. His career went downhill because of his Peter Pan persona and his obsession with kids. Do you think that anyone in Mike's camp believed that Peter Pan's behavior was beneficial to the business?
@@rooseveltdumornay4954 Michael chose not to have normal romantic relationships, nor having kids in a normal way either.
We don't know MJ's version. Maybe he was in love with/crushing on her but could not maybe bc his surrounding ( professional) thought she was taking advantage of him so they cut him off from her.
Michael was attracted to her, I think he had a crush on her
This is exactly what I always felt & sensed as well. I personally think, you're spot on though!
@Corey Ortiz hey boy, commoooon,, go to see video about son of English queen, prince Andrew, and about his best friend Epstein, who proven pedophiles... Don't be a gossip, Michael's guilt has not been proven by the courts, and the guys who accused him after his death admitted that they lied.
@Warren Lightning Exactly.
@@d.n.6575 They just wanted MJs money 💯💯💯
It would have been soooooo awesome if they got together... she seemed genuine and he seemed happier with her around... they were the ones that got away for each other
So basically, his team was being haters towards this possible relationship. I thought they looked cute together.
Michael Jackson fired that team right after the Bad Tour..He definitely got rid of Frank Dielo his manager...
Really ? Id like to see that in a next chapter here.
@@dorisfenella it's true Siedah Garrett mentioned it in an interview she did quite recently..
Yeah but way over due.
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@@dorisfenella 🎁🍰🌹😘🙏🌼😘😘😘😘
Michael was treated like Jesus at that time "keep your lips off of him"..... and she was beautiful & they had chemistry.
Man they look so incredible together like an actual real couple
She saw him on the street in New York, disguised, but recognized him. Then she's cast in his video and he says, "She's the one," out of 200 possibilities. There was a strong karmic connection at the very least. But people who wanted to maintain control over him prevented it from progressing. Hopefully they meet again, without the interference.
Poor Tatiana :( poor Michael as well. Both of them seem genuine yet couldn't live their life for no reason
That Sounds Like they were Hating On Her and Micheal Jackson if Momma Liked her that's it.
@@ProofCare Right. They thought the idea of Mike being in a relationship would be bad for his image and record sales. The image of being a bachelor, single and free, sells!!
😍 I wished they married, they looked so good together 🔥🔥 & I feel Michael was attracted to her ...
He was only interested in boys...'Leaving Neverland' etc.
Lots of proof!
@@dustinevans2895 🤦🏻♀️ Do you still believe that big LIE ?! Please I recommend you to watch Square One Michael Jackson, it will help you to open your eyes ‼️
@@dustinevans2895 I'm so sick of haters like you! Michael Jackson was always innocent! Just do some research! Watch:
-The Lies Of Leaving Neverland
- Michael Jackon and Wade Robson: The Real Story
- Square One
My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
My favourite music video 😘💗
Happy 61st Birthday to the gorgeous woman model,dancer,actress,and author Tatiana Thumbtzen.
@Mike Tati Forever I hope so if they work things out but never got a chance.Tatiana defend Michael and he will stand by him and believe his innocences.
Tatiana and Michael Jackson were a beautiful couple.
They never had an affair. If he liked her. He would never have allowed them to be shitty to her or fire her. I saw a video saying Dililio had her fired. If Michael cares . It would not have gone down like that.
Good point. I think Mike just led her on for the sake of the performances and the show.
Lionel Kennedy . Yep. I believe that. Chemoan🤣
I believe it was a secret affair or much more than that but definitely a secret
Agreed, he was all business
Not really, Michael didn’t really had the say so in everything, the people that managing him only had the say so, the white guy was plain mean and disrespectful, sooner or later Michael did fired him after the bad tour. Like he couldn’t lives his life as he wanted. When you in the industry people take control of you and want to lead you places and not make your own decisions. Then he liked that girl a lot and he even let her meet his family a lot of times, so they had to be dating. It is just the guy got so sensitive because she was making everyone go crazy and getting the fame and the guy didn’t want that at all. So they made something up to fired her.
How they Met was So Cute. She Saw him years ago. Then ended up in his Video that's Dope. They were Meant to Meet each other. He Probably should of Dated her and Spend Some Quality Time with her. That would have been a Very Nice Love Story!!!!
I think that's where Michael's mistake was. He could have found a way to meet up with her. He succeeded in isolating her. There's no way he was too shy to meet up with her. I've always liked Tatiana. Too bad they were never a couple.
I know but I come to realize he was workaholic and he rarely had free time to spare with her which was unfair in her part
@@Sambol2009 not only that the people around him were too controlling. So there’s no doubt that they ruined every opportunity for Michael to be with someone else
Totally agree!!!- We would love that love story!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Жаль она не стала его женой. Она смогла бы сделать Майкла счастливым. Дети были бы потрясающе красивыми. Жаль.
Sadly he was owned and controlled he couldn’t just do whatever he wanted and couldn’t date whoever he wanted very sad...they looked perfect together.
I blame Michael Jackson's family for not protecting him from those wolves that called themselves his crew members. I also blame Michael partially though. Too late!
He pushed people away when they did not do as he asked off Him
@@rachaelnelson4976 No, those assholes thought that them being in a relationship would affect his career,so they got rid of her, lied about her reason for leaving and made up rumours about her to get him to stay away from her.
I don’t buy that he couldn’t date who he wanted. Mike knew when to speak up when he wanted to. He just didn’t want to be bothered with her anymore.
I've done a lot of research on this situation and it seems Michael's team wanted him to appear single so he wouldn't lose female fans who thought they had a chance with him. After Tatiana kissed him on stage she became a threat to their plans and Michael's manager Frank fired her.
Joe Jackson said Michael was against her firing but finally relented after being talked into having her let go by Frank.
I hate that manager. It wasn't a big deal really.
Yes, that is exactly what I think happened. He had to follow the advice of his managers because of his career. He might have thought that they are right.
Correct! I agree!
Exactly right.
@@lionelkennedy1394
Exactly Wrong
I really don’t understand his people panicking Michael Jackson was a grown up not a teenager and it was just a kiss and further more they really liked each other.
yes crazy people
Management Team- Don't Kiss Him,
He's too shy..🙄 Me: cough "BS he pick her 🤨
Tatiana- Kiss MJ, and MJ embrace her with
love of hug, and kisses with big smile,
while his audience fans cheering them on..🥰💜
It's simple: MJ's manager Frank DiLeo saw her as a distraction to Mike and after the famous kiss during the concert, he fired her and Mike never did anything to follow up or stop DiLeo from following through. Such a shame. Tatiana was the one for Mike. Really wish he would've stepped up properly. There should have been wedding bells, no question about it.
Michael was too trusting with everyone, he needed someone by his side to see through all the bullshit that was happening. If he would’ve had that then he would’ve been alright.... I’ve always wished I could’ve been there to help him...
ify 💔
he did tho...he had Lisa but she got pushed out cus she was the only 1 keeping it real with him...she had it all already and she wanted nothing but his love...so sad
flowerchild wild you know what I actually seen that video of her speaking about it, and speaking about how they would be together and things like that. He should’ve spoke up and stood up to whoever it was who tore them apart. That’s what i mean Michael was too soft spoken as well...it was like he were afraid to talk or something...
@@ashantidouglas4241 so tru...gentle to a fault 😔
Same! It breaks my heart that I wasn't around to help him. To hug him and tell him that everything is ok and what to watch out for. I'm shy at times but if someone mistreated him, I wouldn't hesitate to get in that person's face and tell them to piss off
I think Tatiana is genuine. I did research and she actually called Michael and asked if she could kiss him on stage and he obliged. What happened after that I'm not sure. But I don't really think she was fired and I don't think she was obsessed with him.
Let's be honest every girl he was around they became obsessed with him so she wouldn't be the first if so.
Second, she still defends and loves Michael to this very day, even writing her own books.
I do support her but we'll never know the full or true tea on the situation.
I don't have any contact to Tatiana..does she have any social media??
@@angelchiaranjuez I asked a close friend the same question who actually got to talk to Tatiana and he told me she doesn't. I tried looking for her but there was only fan pages for her.
Though it does make sense that she doesn't have anything seeing how much heat is constantly being thrown at her.
I agree with you, every girl he was around became obsessed with him!
I always thought she was absolutely gorgeous and this was one of my favorite MJ videos. I would stand dead smack in front of the tv to watch it every time. 🙌🏽❤️
Haha so true!!!- Until this day I love watching that love energy between them!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
I’m dying laughing when he said “studied her butt” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Michael was an ass man. He knew what was up 😂😂😂😂
Maybe she was just young and unprofessional. I can see why MJ and his team reacted the way they did though, they know how holyweird operates. But then again, they got him in the end, poor MJ he was between a Rock and a Hard place.
Who got him?
Dustin Evans, the woman who married him which would be LMP.
he was unprofessional telling her run in her stalkings sexy LOL Im screaming he is something else...
My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others. Your a hater!
She asked him for permission and everyone said he liked her. I think his manager is the one that kept them apart because his fans were so obessive over him.
The most obsessed fanatic is Shana Mangatal , she clam she was MJ secret lover and more insane she wrote book full of fanatic imagination 😂😂😂
Agree 😂
Yes everyday she give to us all the story of micheal and her on his instagram 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@__erehtatakae_3317 She is old groupie girl 😂😂😂
Irfann.Jibrail 😂🤣
OMG yes, had only one picture taken with MJ and made up all the stupid stories thinking people would believe her. Pathetic
Ай, да Татьяна!:))) Я родилась, как раз в 1988г. Майкл всегда был моим кумиром из детства!!! 🙏🙏🙏❤️👍👍👍🌈🌈🌈 Майкл это настоящий волшебник любого времени, благодаря его песням, чувствуешь себя вдохновленной и счастливой. Я тебя помню и люблю!!! 💃♥️💃💃♥️💃❤️💃❤️💃♥️💃💥💥🔥
Michael is a grown man!!! If he didn't like the kiss, he would've said something. Tell Brando to chill!
i think tatiana was having crush on michael but he absolutely loved dirty Diana....
YOOOOO
THIS GUY RIGHT HERE 😭
Say that
Yeah 😅
😂😂😂
She was a bit of a show of when she kissed Michael on stage ! Michael was just so sweet and cool about it !
Look what happened after that kiss....she was put off the tour. Maybe she should have kept playing hard to get.
She admitted to not following the choreography! She felt that MJ dared her. She kissed him. She's off his tour! As powerful as MJ was, he called all the shots!
@@arethawalker1724 she should of kept it strictly professional even though Michael was irresistible !
@@AMIR-vo5fn 100% truth
Michael was wit it! Lol he wanted all the smoke 😂 im mad she got yelled at. "Hoe dare u take advantage of him" What?!? Michael was down! Lmao
She was sooo naturally beautiful! Very pretty features! 👍🙌🏻
They're the perfect pair for each other. The attraction is so strong even from the video! They both liked each, though held back strictly with rules and prohibitions. So sad.....
I knew it was gonna be a part 2 to The Way You Make Me Feel video but honestly she was beautiful and perfect for him
Personality? Every fan says she was beautiful so should have been his. But what about her personality and temperament.. might have been a pain in the butt for any of us know.
MJ Perspectives Finally , someone with sense. It’s not only about looks.
Why do not exist an explanation of this from his mouth? It's more interesting than his surgeries. At least to me
@@-aiko9313 dude the family even said she was very kind and down to earth just like Michael we don't even know the full story
@@scjking2213 are his family very kind and down to earth, though? Hmmm.
The press never allowed Michael to be in a close and comfortable relationship
It wasn't her fault, that was about control from people with ill will!! Wish her much success and happiness.
Seems like Michael really found the girl he wanted to be with but he was too trusting of other people plus it sounds the people who were working for him were jealous of Tatiana. She got to be close to him whereas other people didn't how sad.
Tatiana was a too staight forward, warm, gorgeous ,wonderful ,no nonsense kind of girl , for Michael to grasp at the time- being extremely complexed & insecure himself - besides people around him spinning his mind with concerns for his image & future career ( read:🤑💰) - only his Mom seemed to welcome genuine love = someone she must have sensed would be good to him..Katherine would know - if anyone. Nothing wrong with Tatiana. She was a true Tinkerbell IMO and MJ 's life would have looked a lot different if he'd had more selfconfidence - and had the strenght to tell the various vultures to stay out what was absolutely none of their business
Tatiana was perfect. Michael's world wasn't. Only his Mom seemed to care about MJ's heart at all. Bless his wings .
& his beautiful heart ☁️💛☁️
Bless Tatiana too very much 💔~🧚🏼♂️💖💫
Beautiful said !!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
No Mistake The Crowd Goes Wild about her. They were Hating on Her and Micheal Jackson!!!!! She Didn't take advantage of him. That was So Cute to see Micheal Jackson embraced with such Compassion for him on Stage it was Perfect!!!! You just have Haters in the World. It was Very Loving and innocent Kiss.
@@ProofCare She, along with Oprah, Martin Bashir, Diane Sawyer & Lisa Marie Presley are on their shit list. They worship him like he was God & treat him like a fragile doll.
Michael and Tatiana would’ve made an AWESOME couple💞
The video has so much chemistry between them both. Wow, its because she spoke to the press and the trusted had be broken.
This was actually really insightful. I learned information I've never known about what happened between them. Nice job!
Hello Jasmine.....
she should have never spoken to those tabloids when they called her when she was on tour first mistake!
His hand on hair waist and his smile after the kiss doesn't agree with the "taking advantage of him" stuff...
My opinion is, they connected. If I could do anything, I would turn the clock back and have Mike and Tatiana tie the knot. (Get married)
"short black dress" thats short to them times-a-changin'
Well, nowadays women wear some cloth to cover themselves
Probably truth is Michael was sexually attracted to her, and yes wanted to know if he could be emotionally attached too... but more time he saw her he decided no. She wasn't suitable for him. Happens all the time. But being famous he couldn't let her know, risk her getting mad and saying stuipd stuff in te press in spite. So he got middle men to ice her out.
I agree with you
ADYCNUEEWSTRW
That’s it 👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾 Ive never known Michael to hold his tongue about what he wants or allow others to determine his next move without input. She was pretty but probably lacked depth that’s needed in a relationship. Maybe he felt she was becoming too pushy?
No I don’t think Michael got “ middle men” to fire her somehow, he’s more of a straightforward person , he literally fired frank right after bad tour with no extra drama or explanation. He’s not that cruel what frank did to her was horrible and unnecessary. I do agree however she wasn’t a good match for Michael, her personality was way off and did not complement his.
this story could be a movie
She could have been the normalcy and genuine love he needed to lead a healthy life.
That Brando guy's reaction towards Tatiana was harsh and completely unnecessary. Michael was a grown up and surely could handle a kiss! My feeling is that if Michael really wanted to be with Tatiana he could, he was powerful enough to do what he wanted when he wanted. He's been like that all his life.
Maybe Michael never grew up to see the situation the way we see. He worked so hard since his childhood and this was one of the consequences. Poor Tatiana.
Brando’s reaction is justified though (considering they were friends) look at this from an outside perspective, regardless if Tatiana got permission from Michael (I doubt it was for a kiss on the mouth) he was the only one who knew and what she did could be considered harassment if it were reversed but people brush it off like it’s nothing because it’s Michael. So again, I think Brando has a right to be angry and she was told not to kiss him from multiple people.
My boyfriend and I have discussed this he said MJ liked Tatiana however his team of white people did not want him with a mixed race or black woman thats the bottom line why they made up lies on her and told MJ also i remember i heard they had said her boyfriend was visiting her on tour or something like that Frank said that now why would it matter if MJ didnt like her he wanted her to be his girlfriend trust mi she would have been up at Neverland if it wasnt for his entourage Karen Faye, Frank and others.
@@bryfaith Tatiana asked Michael for permission to kiss him on that phone callso what are you talking about with regards to harassment? Also, it is never justifiable to call somebody a f*cking b$tch.
He wanted to get to know her more he aware of latchers but she wasn't they were in love with each other.
People dont react the way she did after that kiss if they spoke about it, agreed to it, rehearsed it, and its part of the show. That was definitely a spontaneous first time thing, there's a reason she was fired lol awesome video!
Exactly! If it was planned she would have been calm and collected and she wouldn’t have kissed him in the middle of a lyric. She reacted like a fangirl after kissing him lol.
Omgosh you said it precisely!! If she had been chill after the kiss, it wouldn't have looked half as dumb as I think she looked. The reaction threw me off big time. Can't imagine how MJ felt as a perfectionist having that spoke in his wheel 😳
Exactly she never called him. How do you go from being isolated every night and not talking to his crew to calling him up and him agreeing to a kiss?! They never happened and she was fired because he didn’t want her kissing him at all
They would have been a perfect couple.
She is so gorgeous even to this day . It's a shame how his people did her . Poor lady ruined her career .
I totally remembered when all of this actually played out!!! I really believed that all she had to do was play it cool.........I can't help but think if she had just chilled-out and wait....this story would have a different happier ending as I really do believe there was enough feelings on both side for a real relationship!
so true and she made it worse for herself by acting a bumb movie and writing abook about the way he made me feel i was like... really bitch?
That's true...she could have waited for him to kiss her first
She was very young and who's to say she would have been happy dealing with his people and fan's?
OMFG PART 2 NOW. I NEED THIS TEEEEAAAA
His reaction to that kiss! Bring on the body language experts.....
He looks surprised but seems like a nice guy and a showman
Great video. Extremely well-researched!
I feel like if she truly had a relationship with him she wouldn’t have kissed him on stage since she was already being intimate with him anyway.
@Radiana Prakash Since the thumbs down button on TH-cam does not count, I will give you one personally. An enormous one. And a bucket filled with puke because that is what I feel when someone like you gives such a comment. Yuck.
@Radiana Prakash Nope. Your way of thinking says totally more about you than about me with your .. facts and sickning opinion about Michael. And no, not another bucket filled with puke because I have way more important things to do than to think about you. I have said what I wanted to say, and you can think about that what you want, I do not care. I really have enough of people like you with such an narrow mind and soul. Good luck with that.
@@kwasidejonge2990 No I believe he was a virgin because he was asexual. Both Brooke Shields and Lisa Marie said that he had arrested development. He was emotionally immature as though he was stuck with the mind of a 13-year-old when it comes to women because of his exposure to sex at 5 years old (his brothers/father had sex in the same room with groupies/prostitutes while on tour) and then went home to an overly religious mother.
The paradox confused his young mind, and that messed him up mentally when it comes to women. He would've been happier if he had found another woman who's asexual
@@ROYAL_REBEL He was able to overcome it years later, like in his 30's. Lisa always said that Michael was amazing in intimacy 🤭 (and supposedly she stuck around with him a bit longer becuz of that, despite their marital problems)
@@ROYAL_REBEL im asexual, god i wish i were old enough to meet him. we'd make a nice couple
Her body was what i aspired to have when I was a kid once I grew up
Never got there 😄
@Luna EB i wouldn’t say it’s a good thing, it’s ruining girls in different ways. Wish we could just accept healthy bodies regardless of proportion.
Lol! 🤣You are not alone!❤️
😂😂
No u dont I'm like her now trust me you dont want tooo.... I wanna look like Megan ahh ;)
@@elviseinstein5944 lmaoo same i wanna look like Nicki not like this 🤣😩
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