Nice job you don't have to wait another decade for the Earth to warm up enough . I did waited for S. California to warm up since the 80s once I learned about global warming. You got what looks like my backyard here in southern California. I know where your heart is at man and I can feel you.
Very cool! I love your greenhouse! the technology is awesome and I've been following greenhouse in the snow for some time doing similar things on my channel. great video! Cheers from Canada!
I love seeing how much your plants are growing!!! We have our pit dug and are working to get the next phase installed. Our trees have came in from Four Winds, its amazing to see olives here in Indiana!!! Looking forward to seeing how your bananas grow, that is another one I would love to try! Thanks for the update!
The idea of a greenhouse dug halfway underground is great! What a nice invention. Citrus and other exotic plants sure like this. I am also growing Citrus trees in the snow - basically cold hardy varieties which are ok without a greenhouse
Amazing. Hats off to you my friend. Im not into the water growing but everyones boat floats differently. Great job. First video ive seen of yours so i have some homework. Im in eastern central illinois and want to build a greenhouse next year, not nearly this size, but a survival garden for maybe 5 people.
I'm grateful for you sharing this experience. Thinking about doing one myself but, just need to do more research. Following Russ Finch's design from Alliance Nebraska. Looks like you're having good success. Congratulations and keep us posted. Excited to see more videos.
If you shopped some of those plants locally, I might have sold them to you. I used to work at Cook's. Thx for posting about your greenhouse. I'm just north of you in PG and am building my own this summer. It would be great to connect with you to compare notes.
With everything including aquaponics and solar (here but not yet installed) I'll be about $35K. I don't know that I will make anything from it. I'd love to send food to the local Farmers Market and work with a Restaurant but we are a ways from all that. If I can add 10 years to my life, learn about everything involved here and be healthy and happy then I'm good with it.
I love what you're doing and I'm really interested in seeing an actual Greenhouse that's working. Are you doing any tours or inviting anybody to come out and see how things are going? We live in Kansas but are currently in Utah County visiting family and would be interested in seeing your operation if you are open to that keep up the good work it's inspiring to see how fast and efficient your system is going. Thank you for your posts Martin Thompson
Hi Martin. Yes I have been showing the Greenhouse. I'm in Nebraska until Monday. If you are around Utah County next week I'd be happy to show it to you.
I like fast growing trees.com, toptropicals.com, fourwindsgrowers.com I have ordered from others as well but these 3 have delivered in a timely manner and the plants/trees looked great.
Thanks for all the videos on your greenhouse. I am sorry if you already answered this question but, could you use the same 12, 230ft. tubes for heating and cooling? Also I am concerned that where dirt contacts metal siding it will rust away and need to be replaced. How soon? I do not know.
Thankyou for your providing us these videos. Do you think I would need light difusion during peak afternoon hours to regulate heat gain in middle Tennessee?
I am a big fan of light defusion. Preferrably by using plants and trees inside the greenhouse to create a canopy. Shade cloth also really helps reduce heat.
This is awesome! With your high water table, did you use solid pipes (vs perforated) to keep water from seeping in? If so does the solid pipe lead to a decreased heat exchange or humidity problems since you can’t push any of the moist greenhouse air into the ground?
My water table ebbs and flows during the year. Its a big issue! Because we hit water while drilling test holes we went with solid pipes but I believe some of them have taken on water. I am going to dig around the pipes to try to make a determination. I would say perforated pipes are ideal for geothermal for the reasons you mention. Wish I could have done that.
@@cynthiacetrangelo3398 Russ's GH is attached to his home and 37 years old. Their Kit is a little different than what Russ has. My GH includes many of their recommendations such as spray on insulation, fans and geothermal tubes. I have made some variations and upgrades based on my circumstances. Geothermal is probably biggest challenge. It doesn't do 100% of the heating and cooling needed. So that is where the creativity/adjustment is needed.
I'd love to know what avocado you choose. I'm in LA but planning to move back to New England. I just can't saw goodbye to home grown avocados! The reading I've done suggest Mexican varieties are the best for Northern climates. For flavor alone I agree (that's what I grow here), because they have the highest fat content. If you don't live near Mexican avocado trees, you probably haven't had them because they don't ship well (very thin skins). Apparently some Mexican varieties are even hardy through a light frost. The fruit may not survive but the tree supposedly does. Thanks for the video, your greenhouse is beautiful!
Thanks for sharing. I am in Northern Utah and was looking at the Greenhouse kits from greenhouse in the snow. New to the climate battery/geothermal process. Any Updates? Still loving the project? Would you do something differently if you could?
We have just one tree planted on the East end where we have a water table issue. So far it seems to be doing good. Water table drops off about 10 feet from the East end. Really weird. When we put in the trenches for the geothermal, it seems to have lowered the water table even further as the trench picks up some of the water. We trenched downhill and layered in gravel to pick up some of the ground water and ran it to a pond which stays full year round and doesn't freeze because of the new ground water coming in.
Bananas are water hogs. I bet they would love to be on the east end with the rising water table. Jack Spirko does a lot of hydroponic stuff these days and grows duckweed on the top of his water and tosses it over to his terrestrial plants for fertilizer. it may help block some of that sunshine for you.
@@trailbreakfarms I don`t know, no experience with hydroponics, but lotus? would cover the suface from light and flowers and rhizomes and seed as veggies?
@@trailbreakfarms I don`t know? Saw the original greenhouse in the snow video and I cannot remember if he mentioned it or if I thought it, but he has some kind of reflective metal there. and I had this vision of giving it a tiltable surface so that you can steer where to send the light. But I guess that`s not doable anyway and just fantasy. a nice one, though.
The original had a silver reflective surface but he said it did not matter now because the greenhouse was so over grown light did not reach the north wall much.
Thank you for sharing! Are you hoping to produce commercially, or is this just for personal use? Can't wait to see how your first full growing season turns out.
@@trailbreakfarms I concur. I bought my kit for my 60' long geothermalhouse for $11000 from Russ as well (shipping was $2k to Virginia). I would estimate about $37-38k once I get solar and a well installed as well (I should get about $1800 back from solar credits). I am currently installing a cinder block retaining wall (just poured the foundation this weekend). Next one I build (I have plans for going commercial and doing 8-10 total greenhouses) I will be doing a wooden retaining wall with siding like you have as the cost and time to install make the cinder block unattractive to me for large scale 100' houses. Question for you Steve.... How big are you sizing your solar system? I have to have it for mine as I'm running a LOT of aquaponics... so batteries are essential. I just haven't done my math yet and wanted to see what you're planning on using. I'm thinking around 2-3kWh, with a week's worth of battery storage... Prolly cost me $7-8k total. That sound right for you?
@@basedbear1605 I went with a Solar Maxx 6000 System which has 1410 Watts and 4.32 KWh. Good thing is I can add panels and batteries if needed. I'm not sure if its too much or not enough. I'm hoping it will run my GH, my Well and my Shop building. Time will tell. Good luck on yours. Would love to see what it looks like.
@@trailbreakfarms Just finished uploading the last 2 videos to my channel... one shows the mistake I made... one of the back beams has created a slight bulge.. the other shows the foundation for the retaining wall which we just installed. Just click my icon and check em out. I am going to be putting a square room on the end of my greenhouse, and the fish will be there in totes (it's uphill from the rest of it) and the whole thing will feed gravity feed down the length of the greenhouse through flow beds.... then to the other side and through deep water culture beds back to a sump then pumped back into the fish tanks.
Spacing is very important to us in a Greenhouse. We want Root stock in the ground, plants above the ground, trees above the plants and vines on the walls and ceiling. Time will tell what works best. We have plenty of that.
Nice job you don't have to wait another decade for the Earth to warm up enough . I did waited for S. California to warm up since the 80s once I learned about global warming. You got what looks like my backyard here in southern California. I know where your heart is at man and I can feel you.
The plants are going to do great. Even the pineapples. Liking the _greenhouse in the snow_ concept. 👍🏼 It's brilliant.
Very cool! I love your greenhouse! the technology is awesome and I've been following greenhouse in the snow for some time doing similar things on my channel. great video! Cheers from Canada!
I love seeing how much your plants are growing!!! We have our pit dug and are working to get the next phase installed. Our trees have came in from Four Winds, its amazing to see olives here in Indiana!!!
Looking forward to seeing how your bananas grow, that is another one I would love to try!
Thanks for the update!
Olives! those are on my list. let me know how they work out.
The idea of a greenhouse dug halfway underground is great! What a nice invention. Citrus and other exotic plants sure like this. I am also growing Citrus trees in the snow - basically cold hardy varieties which are ok without a greenhouse
Amazing. Hats off to you my friend. Im not into the water growing but everyones boat floats differently. Great job. First video ive seen of yours so i have some homework. Im in eastern central illinois and want to build a greenhouse next year, not nearly this size, but a survival garden for maybe 5 people.
Good job thanks for the update, I am sure you will find a lot more plants that thrive as time goes by.
Looks great. Plants appear to be doing well.
I'm grateful for you sharing this experience. Thinking about doing one myself but, just need to do more research. Following Russ Finch's design from Alliance Nebraska. Looks like you're having good success. Congratulations and keep us posted. Excited to see more videos.
Well done Steve!
Thanks for your greenhouse tour! 🙌
Thanks for posting the updates.
Thank you so much for the update! Very interested to see if the geothermal can handle summer temps.
Me too. I'll keep you updated.
Love the green house updates.
Nice idea
I see now in a later video that you are using those tubes for cooling and heat.
If you shopped some of those plants locally, I might have sold them to you. I used to work at Cook's. Thx for posting about your greenhouse. I'm just north of you in PG and am building my own this summer. It would be great to connect with you to compare notes.
Yes I would always prefer to get them locally. 3 of the Citrus trees and all of the veggies came from Cooks. Would love to compare notes.
Great job, keep posting, maybe quick 5 min videos weekly. Can you say approximately how much it cost to build and what kind of yield you expect?
With everything including aquaponics and solar (here but not yet installed) I'll be about $35K. I don't know that I will make anything from it. I'd love to send food to the local Farmers Market and work with a Restaurant but we are a ways from all that. If I can add 10 years to my life, learn about everything involved here and be healthy and happy then I'm good with it.
Can we get an update of how the summer went please :D
My September 11 video gives an end of Summer update. Let me know if you have any specific questions after watching.
spectacular
I love what you're doing and I'm really interested in seeing an actual Greenhouse that's working. Are you doing any tours or inviting anybody to come out and see how things are going? We live in Kansas but are currently in Utah County visiting family and would be interested in seeing your operation if you are open to that keep up the good work it's inspiring to see how fast and efficient your system is going. Thank you for your posts Martin Thompson
Hi Martin. Yes I have been showing the Greenhouse. I'm in Nebraska until Monday. If you are around Utah County next week I'd be happy to show it to you.
Fantastic, thanks for sharing. Where are you ordering your fruit trees from?
I like fast growing trees.com, toptropicals.com, fourwindsgrowers.com I have ordered from others as well but these 3 have delivered in a timely manner and the plants/trees looked great.
@@trailbreakfarms Excellent thank you!
Thanks for all the videos on your greenhouse. I am sorry if you already answered this question but, could you use the same 12, 230ft. tubes for heating and cooling? Also I am concerned that where dirt contacts metal siding it will rust away and need to be replaced. How soon? I do not know.
I'll report as problems arise in regards to rust.
Thankyou for your providing us these videos.
Do you think I would need light difusion during peak afternoon hours to regulate heat gain in middle Tennessee?
I am a big fan of light defusion. Preferrably by using plants and trees inside the greenhouse to create a canopy. Shade cloth also really helps reduce heat.
@@trailbreakfarms Thankyou would you reccomend a particular shade cloth?
@@Watchingtheparadegoby I have a 40% Aluminet that I purchased from Greenhouse Megastore. I love it.
Very nice. Wers the snow :)
This is awesome!
With your high water table, did you use solid pipes (vs perforated) to keep water from seeping in? If so does the solid pipe lead to a decreased heat exchange or humidity problems since you can’t push any of the moist greenhouse air into the ground?
My water table ebbs and flows during the year. Its a big issue! Because we hit water while drilling test holes we went with solid pipes but I believe some of them have taken on water. I am going to dig around the pipes to try to make a determination. I would say perforated pipes are ideal for geothermal for the reasons you mention. Wish I could have done that.
@@trailbreakfarms Alliance Nebraska Greenhouse was working perfectly why wasn't his design replicated exactly?
@@cynthiacetrangelo3398 Russ's GH is attached to his home and 37 years old. Their Kit is a little different than what Russ has. My GH includes many of their recommendations such as spray on insulation, fans and geothermal tubes. I have made some variations and upgrades based on my circumstances. Geothermal is probably biggest challenge. It doesn't do 100% of the heating and cooling needed. So that is where the creativity/adjustment is needed.
I'd love to know what avocado you choose. I'm in LA but planning to move back to New England. I just can't saw goodbye to home grown avocados! The reading I've done suggest Mexican varieties are the best for Northern climates. For flavor alone I agree (that's what I grow here), because they have the highest fat content. If you don't live near Mexican avocado trees, you probably haven't had them because they don't ship well (very thin skins). Apparently some Mexican varieties are even hardy through a light frost. The fruit may not survive but the tree supposedly does.
Thanks for the video, your greenhouse is beautiful!
I have a "Brogdon" Avocado Tree which I purchased from Toptropicals.com. It is doing great.
I'm just curious if you could do some kind of tree frog or morning gecko for the aphids.
Been using Ladybugs and spraying with Neem oil.
Thanks for sharing. I am in Northern Utah and was looking at the Greenhouse kits from greenhouse in the snow. New to the climate battery/geothermal process. Any Updates? Still loving the project? Would you do something differently if you could?
I would make sure the 2x2 metal is treated for rust. I think they do that now. Also, you can never have too many pipes. Really happy so far.
Do you think the planted trees near the fish tank/ground water area might experience root rot?
We have just one tree planted on the East end where we have a water table issue. So far it seems to be doing good. Water table drops off about 10 feet from the East end. Really weird. When we put in the trenches for the geothermal, it seems to have lowered the water table even further as the trench picks up some of the water. We trenched downhill and layered in gravel to pick up some of the ground water and ran it to a pond which stays full year round and doesn't freeze because of the new ground water coming in.
Wonderful!!!
Wow, amazing plants! How do you pollinate them? Do they require it?
Some self pollinate. Others require it. We keep bees in and around GH. We also open vents in spring to invite insects.
Bananas are water hogs. I bet they would love to be on the east end with the rising water table. Jack Spirko does a lot of hydroponic stuff these days and grows duckweed on the top of his water and tosses it over to his terrestrial plants for fertilizer. it may help block some of that sunshine for you.
Thanks for your feedback. I'll move a couple to the east end and see how they do.
Indeed. If you raise tilapia (would need to heat the water) then they LOVE duckweed as a supplemental food source as well.
@@trailbreakfarms I don`t know, no experience with hydroponics, but lotus? would cover the suface from light and flowers and rhizomes and seed as veggies?
what is the reason that you opted for white instead of a light reflective surface on the insulated north wall?
The White is somewhat reflective. There are probably more reflective options but we wanted white. We are happy with it. What would you recommend?
@@trailbreakfarms I don`t know? Saw the original greenhouse in the snow video and I cannot remember if he mentioned it or if I thought it, but he has some kind of reflective metal there. and I had this vision of giving it a tiltable surface so that you can steer where to send the light. But I guess that`s not doable anyway and just fantasy. a nice one, though.
The original had a silver reflective surface but he said it did not matter now because the greenhouse was so over grown light did not reach the north wall much.
Thank you for sharing! Are you hoping to produce commercially, or is this just for personal use? Can't wait to see how your first full growing season turns out.
Thanks for your comments. I hope to produce more than I need and send the rest to the local Farmers Market.
Here in Heber Utah, I've always wanted to have your exact model of greenhouse. How much have you invested so far financially.?
About 35K. I have a lot of bells and whistles. You could do same kit for $25K.
Will you use shade cloth on the lexan in summer to reduce temp? Wow, mangos in Utah!
Yes, I will use the shade cloth until Winter. It has been a big help so far.
Can I come tour your place and volunteer to work on your farm ?
Absolutely
Do you give tours?
yes
@@trailbreakfarms How can I get in contact with you for a tour?
@@WendeShift my email is steve@amsource.com
How much did the kit cost you?
I think the kit was around $10,600. I'll be all in around $35K once I get the solar finished. I think it could be done for $25K
@@trailbreakfarms I concur. I bought my kit for my 60' long geothermalhouse for $11000 from Russ as well (shipping was $2k to Virginia). I would estimate about $37-38k once I get solar and a well installed as well (I should get about $1800 back from solar credits). I am currently installing a cinder block retaining wall (just poured the foundation this weekend). Next one I build (I have plans for going commercial and doing 8-10 total greenhouses) I will be doing a wooden retaining wall with siding like you have as the cost and time to install make the cinder block unattractive to me for large scale 100' houses.
Question for you Steve.... How big are you sizing your solar system? I have to have it for mine as I'm running a LOT of aquaponics... so batteries are essential. I just haven't done my math yet and wanted to see what you're planning on using. I'm thinking around 2-3kWh, with a week's worth of battery storage... Prolly cost me $7-8k total. That sound right for you?
@@basedbear1605 I went with a Solar Maxx 6000 System which has 1410 Watts and 4.32 KWh. Good thing is I can add panels and batteries if needed. I'm not sure if its too much or not enough. I'm hoping it will run my GH, my Well and my Shop building. Time will tell. Good luck on yours. Would love to see what it looks like.
@@trailbreakfarms Just finished uploading the last 2 videos to my channel... one shows the mistake I made... one of the back beams has created a slight bulge.. the other shows the foundation for the retaining wall which we just installed. Just click my icon and check em out.
I am going to be putting a square room on the end of my greenhouse, and the fish will be there in totes (it's uphill from the rest of it) and the whole thing will feed gravity feed down the length of the greenhouse through flow beds.... then to the other side and through deep water culture beds back to a sump then pumped back into the fish tanks.
you just wasting space with trees.
Spacing is very important to us in a Greenhouse. We want Root stock in the ground, plants above the ground, trees above the plants and vines on the walls and ceiling. Time will tell what works best. We have plenty of that.