VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 106
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Sam, Niko, and Wren (with a late arrival by Jordan) break down some of the best (and worst) visual effects in some of your favorite Hollywood films!
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00:00 Welcome to VFX Artists React
00:43 Dante's Peak
04:32 Watchmen
11:09 League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
16:30 Punch 4 Punch
16:57 Thanks For Watching - บันเทิง
Heyo I worked on Rorschach! Some of my shots are in this video. The team at Intelligent Creatures in Toronto did an amazing job on Watchmen. Hands down my favorite film I've worked on.
Hey, did u work with Snyder and is he as cool as everyone who works with him says he is?
@@pedromota4497I would like to know too.
Thank you! The effect was wonderful!
Very cool! What exactly did you work on in those shots?
Everything holds up so well with how it's aged.
Dante's peak miniature shot is absurdly well done
Yeah... Im shocked to see this, thats the magic movies had back in the day, all that is so much love for production and perfection
At 1/4th scale, it's unfair to call them miniatures - they are called bigatures (seriously) :)
Yeah - even knowing it, it's big enough to look real and the slight difference in behavior is easily within the range of "lots of crap in the water making it more viscous"
This was the thing about pre-cgi movies, there was no easy way to do these complicated shots... You had to come up with really clever ways to achieve the desired effect.
Those car chase shots in League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen are extremely impressive, even though that movie was widely considered to be a laughing stock back when it came out.
is a masterpiece for real
Thanks for your kind words about Rorschach in Watchmen, I was the CG Supervisor for Inteligent Creature Inc in Toronto, we were responsible for all the Rorshach mask shots in the final movie. One correction I'd like to make is that you showed tests carried our in pre-production by Frantic Films (you can see their name in the top right) but we won the contract over them.
We didn't just have 5 shapes we moved between, we animated all shots bespoke from scratch using a 2D animation setup I created in Maya.
That's a really good insider information, thanks for sharing!
Did you get to meet Jackie Earl Haley when working on Rorschach?
I remember in the BTS footage for Dantes Peak they mentioned that something like 6 cameras failed during the flood scene, and they were only able to do one take. But they were prepared for this exact failure, so they had multiple redundant cameras and were able to get the footage they needed. Blew my mind as a kid.
Hello, Blenderguru. How's the donut?
it is the demigod of blender himself
Miniature artists react is definitely a category I'd love to see more of on this channel.
Wait. Miniature artists, or miniature artists?
thats a texas sized 10/4
@@Stevenwave- Lil artists talking about lil builds.
MORE ADAM SAVAGE!
Agreed
Watching these videos every Saturday is like the adult equivalent of watching Saturday morning cartoons.
Agreed 😊
Man I been saying that to myself for a while now.haha.Most my friends could not care less about this stuff But I adore it.
I was thinking the same thing LOL
Definitely feel the same vibe. lol
Hope everyone is enjoying their day.
You nailed it! So true!
I love how collected Sam is when he says he has food poisoning. I would've just puked all over the set.
He’s okay?
Poor Sam food poisoning is horrible hope he gets well soon great video guys 😊👍
Last time I had food poisoning, I had projectile fluids out both ends at the same time... It wasn't pleasant.
@@routybouty Bathtub. That is all.
There was a small part of me that thought it was going to be for a bit like he was going to do the ad reading. I haven't had food poisoning or even yacked in close to 20 years.
Hi, I’m Pat Mcclung. I was the visual effects supervisor on Dante’s Peak. There is so much to talk about in this film that I won’t go into great detail.
This was the third show I had ever supervised, I was working at Digital Domain running the model shop and ask Jim Cameron if I could bump up to VFX Sup. He said yes. I did Sargent Bioko first, then Chain Reaction followed by Dante’s Peak.
We were on an extremely short schedule to beat out Volcano.
The reason it looks great is simple the crew that I had. They were the best. All the SFX including the water were supervised by Richard Stutsman, miniatures by Alan Faucher.
There is so much to this film I would need a couple of hours to explain it all.
It was quite a ride, 2 weeks later I started on Armageddon.
You guys did incredible work on this film. How was the truck over lava scene done? The scale of the fire and the mass / movement of the truck look so real I have no idea how those shots could have been done in the way they are describing lol. Especially the tires disintegrating with the glowing lava...
@@StickHits I asked the production to use a day glow reddish paint/ goop for the practical truck to drive through. The compositors keyed the goop and changed the color and brightness along with some heat distortion to get the hot lava look. Otherwise it was all practical until the flowing CG lava at the end of the sequence. This was my third show as VFX supervisor and the goop idea was a bit of a guess as to it working. Luckily it did!
Thanks for the interest.
I worked on the first Harry Potter film in the model unit (miniatures) and I can tell you first hand, working on the miniatures was an absolute blast!
We made various different scale sections of the school for close ups/fly by shots, as well as the full Hogwarts. We also made a bunch a forced perspective streets etc, and it was incredible to work on a fantasy style film that required plenty of models with such high detail.
Even on the school windows, every single window pane was made of plastic transparency film and scored across with a pen, so any reflected light scattered in different directions to give the illusion of individual tiny panes of glass with lead piping.
That one i know far too well as i did nearly all of them 😆
(We also stole some pre-made model trees that were left from Sleepy Hollow... Shhhh) 😆
THAT'S really cool insider info!
It was so cool seeing the full Hogwarts miniature at the exhibition in London. For the winter scenes, was the miniature covered in fake snow?
Wow, that's really cool! Maybe they should have you on the couch.
@@everettehungerford2858 😆
Unfortunately for me, It's the only film I worked miniatures on and I've been a professional cartoon Illustrator on licensed products/brands ever since... I highly doubt I'm a high enough calibre of person to be sitting on that couch 😆
@@travellerinthedark yep, fake snow. They cover it and clean it off every year at the WB tour.
I'm glad I don't have to do that job!!
Covering it is probably fun, but the cleaning it all off!? No way! 😆
The VFX in Watchmen still blow my mind. That movie is so unflinching that one bad shot would completely break the world
Shame it's a terrible film still.
@@willspeakman2461 its not
@@willspeakman2461 Snyder may have a few stinkers, but his DC films are among the best.
@@willspeakman2461how is it terrible?
The movie is pretty solid but it fails as an adaptation from the book
My step dad actually worked on Dante's Peak and Watchmen. Working on Watchmen was really cool, but a physical nightmare because it was built in the middle of the desert in the summer.
Whether you like Watchmen or not, one thing for sure is that it’s aged super well at least on a visual and technical level. As for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, it’s actually not aged badly either in terms of VFX
It is the single most faithful comic adaptation put to screen, literally almost page for page exact (apart from the obvious slight change in the ending). Anyone who complains about that is the definition of a toxic so-called 'fan'.
@@cenciende9401it’s the poster child for a surface-level adaptation. it entirely misinterprets the philosophical core of the book.
@@kvetchait doesn't you doofus
@@kvetchano it does not. If anything it elevates the core idea of GN which is "Nostalgia". Right from the very first scene.
But yall just look at it on the surface level and say it's about "superhero bad" and that the movie glorified their actions. Everyone who says the movie failed to understand the book, only talk about the "glorified" violence and the different ending like if that's all Watchmen is about,
Completely ignorant of the deeper themes of the book.
Even the changed ending (I'm not talking about the squid), the scene where Dan and Laurie visit her mother further elevates the core idea of the Book.
I didn't know the movie was divisive, everyone I know who has watched it, really likes it.
yes more miniatures please! I love when miniatures are used in movies...wish we had more minis and less CGI honestly.
I wish filmmakers would use more miniatures (and animatronics) and less CGI, you can still mix both and enhance so it would look exremely realistic.
It takes actual time and effort tho =(
@@Nagadirchan Right? Jumanji is a PRIME example of that. Literally the only animals that look good are the lion, the crocodile and the spiders. All of which were a masterful mix of techniques.
All things considered, League of Extraordinary Gentleman still holds up after 20 years.
Agreed 😊
I think it's really underrated too, that movie was absolutely railed on when it first came out. People hated it. It was so hated it ended Sean Connerys career.
It's not fair because the movie really isn't bad at all, it's super entertaining.
It's a bad film.
The Hyde prosthetics are fantastic
That's because most of it is real 😜
I'm blown away by how you can still find astonishing VFX scenes to talk about after all these episodes!
dude me too tbh haha...
There are a lot of movies out there, man.
The Abyss has some of the best miniature work in any movie. Apollo 13 the launch sequence is amazing. The spider in The Wild Wild West. The list goes on. The world of miniatures in film is a deep dive that deserves a few episodes. There are so many out there that you would never know were miniatures.
Nice to see a classic episode with just the regular crew on the couch
Lord of the Rings and King Kong probably have some of the most extensive miniature work ever done. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight also had some miniature work for the Tumbler sequences that totally fooled me. That shot of the Tumbler going underneath the garbage truck and ramming it up into the ceiling of the tunnel was miniature.
I just said the same before reading the comments. Smart minds think alike.
I don’t love the Watchmen movie but the way they portrayed Rorschach was literally perfect. Such a brilliant move to make the mask flow and change organically rather than have a few different ones for each scene. This is why movie and TV adaptations for comic characters can be awesome, it can allow new little details that aren’t possible on a comic page.
What do you not like about the movie??
One thing that also helped was that the guy who played Rorschach actually read Watchmen growing up, and he actively campaigned to play him.
The bad fortune of Dante's Peak is that it premiered almost next to Titanic here in Mexico City, I went to see it because the rooms to see Titanic were impressive and without knowing almost anything about it, except what appeared on the poster and I was more than grateful for my fate. I've seen it about 20 times and it never bores me
Volcano also came out around the same time.
In interviews with some of the team that built the river miniature for Dante's peak they claim it's the largest miniature set ever constructed. To build it apparently they had to rent all of the steel scaffolding in LA County and had to start going to neighboring counties.
I have zero knowledge about VFX, but the way these guys explained the interaction of colour blue with the camera was simply great and so easy to grasp... Lots of appreciation ❤
I'm so glad you all went over League of Extraordinary Gentlemen; I had a date that I was explaining the movie to, and swore I must have been making it up. We watched it together finally...and let's just say, we both were freaking out about how good the movie still holds up today. He always lost is shit whenever invisible guy come on
Dante's Peak have the best miniature shot ever, we need more of this than crappy CGI. Mixed good CGI in just few scenes and miniatures is the key.
Every now and then I am really impressed with Niko and his overall understanding of his industry and the many technologies at play...today was one of those days...his explanation of film versus digital color was perfect.
I highly recommend the Director's Cut of Watchmen for genre enthusiasts. Many people who dislike Watchmen have only seen the theatrical version.
I've only seen the theatrical version and I fucking love it, but I'll definitely watch the ultimate cut of it.
I like the Director's cut best. After a while, the Black Freighter inserts in the Ultimate cut gets annoying. The first time I loved them, the second time I was a little disturbed, and after that, they were annoying. I totally understand the idea of being faithful to the comics, but some things don't translate well. This is one of those things, according to little ol' me. ;-)
Exactly this!
@@gemeni1971 You are absolutely right. I was actually going to recommend the Director's Cut, but I got them confused.
@@hashira910 I thought the theatrical version was the best until I saw the director's cut. There's a lot of things missing in the theatrical version so the director's cut makes A TON more sense
Peter Jackson's _King Kong_ and the _LotR_ trilogy had some awesome, _huge_ miniatures, to which Jackson literally referred as "big-atures"...
Also, in _Close Encounters of the Third Kind,_ Doug Trumbull did some impressive forced perspective with the curved road on which the UFOs zoom by (and don't forget R2D2 being very visible on the hull of the Mothership).
4:54 I love how he says "do it" to "I feel like im about to throw up" cuz that's a very accurate response and absolute what anyone should do when they feel like that but he just says it so casually.
Seeing the BTS of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is what got me into filmmaking and the behind the scenes stuff. I was blown away when I saw how they did it with minis action figures.
A while back I was checking out some random costume stuff and stumbled across some of these Watchmen Rorschach masks. They had thermal-shifting dyes used in the mask that would switch between a couple different designs (each mask had 2 designs but there were 4 or 5 different configurations) depending on the temperature. So when you exhaled the temperature caused the dyes to change from normal, but would return back when you inhaled while wearing the mask. It did a really cool job of making the mask appear to shift/change while it was worn. Now when I see the Rorschach character, that mask is all I can think about
I feel like I'm having a bell ring in the very vague distance, that it was an outer layer, an inner layer, and that dye in-between?
@@Stevenwave- From what I remember, it was the same kind of dye that they used to put in tee shirts back in the late 80s and early 90s that would change with temperature. So the mask was only 1 layer of fabric and had 2 temperature variant dyes that would appear/disappear when the temperature changed between warm and cold. There's still several vendors online so just do a quick Google/Bing search for Rorschach changing masks and they'll be within the first few results.
6:13 he looks like live action version of SPOT from spiderman across the spider verse.
The Abyss has alot of really crazy miniature work. The sub chase near the end, and the scene with Flatbed with the divers on top of it going down to the wreck of the sub is a miniature.
The "CHARGE " Blender short would be awesome
for the VFX series. As well as *Aslan from the Chronicles of Narnia!* where you could do a comparison to the "live action" Lion King. Also at the end of second Chronicles of Narnia movie there's a big water creature, so it might be cool to see what you think about that.
Maybe also, Max Schneider's Gibberish music video, the editing kinda breaks my brain there.
The *last agni kai fight from ATLA* would be perfect for for the Animators React. It's so stunning!
And for stuntmen react It would be cool to see you react to the duel from "Potop", it's really good sword fight
Watchmen has some of the best Effects. They catch the feel they are meant to while looking very real, a very well done movie overall.
Yeah I know a lot of people don't like it but I also think it's a fantastic film. The opening montage is absurdly well done.
As someone whose life is often interrupted by gastric distress, I feel Sam's pain and hope he recovered fully.
One of the best episodes yet! I love miniature work - when it's done as great as in these examples. Thank you guys, for always bringing us really GREAT content.
2:30 That red van shot has to be the best miniature shot in the history of filmmaking. Incredible!
You guys should've done like a Doctor Who-style regeneration of Sam into Jordan for the swap
Didn't look like they had much time to work with lol
@@bonzairob Jeff Goldblum: When you gotta go, you gotta go.
back in the late 90s in China, we had a show called Movie Magic on our local Movie Channel. This show, which I later found out was created by the James Camera, explains all kinds of incredible special effects in movies like Independence Day and True Lies, most of which I had never heard of back then, but I was so in love with that show. And I suddenly realize why I keep returning to your channel to watch these great videos. You guys bring me back to my good old younger days.
We had that show on AMC here in the US. Absolutely loved it.
just mind blowing@@ramirezs316
these videos always brighten my day if only for a little while, thank you for continuing to do this series!
The obvious miniature film to look at is Star Wars e4 but Total Recall (1990) has some great landscape miniatures and Aliens (1986) has some amazing miniatures too.
Does Niko really know all that stuff off the top of his head? He’s like a film encyclopedia.
Usually when one of them introduces a clip to the other two, that person has already researched the answer, so they can test the others.
You guys all work so hard, yet you always seem to be having such a great time too!
Wow it’s inspiring to see how far all of you guys have come. Congrats on the Netflix show 🎉
This was undoubtedly the BEST vfx artists react yet! (i’m only 5 seconds into the video)
Couldn't agree more(0:18 seconds into the video)
@@evilondare4143 that was my favorite part!
Please do an episode dedicated to Ray Harryhausen. 'The Golden Voyage of Sinbad' is my favorite. My dad took me and my older brother to see it at the drive-in. The battle with Kali (6-armed statue) is still amazing nearly 50 years later!
Wren is such a nice person. Just a great guy. I wish I could see Wren play lika a maniac. There is something hidden deep inside Wren, the dark version of him... I wants to see that version come to life haha 😂
Dante's Peak effects work is amazing. Well put.
those league of extraordinary gentlemen fx are so good, i just had a grin from ear to ear watching them break it down. great episode featuring stellar miniatures, showcasing movie magic and artisans
The minature divers they made for The Rock always impressed me.
Dante's Peak is the superior volcano movie from that year, super underrated .
Dante's Peak is a gem, does not deserve some of the hate it gets, masterfully done VFX
Thank you for explaining the blue light problem! I've been wondering ever since Star Trek: Discovery's first season why it looked so _awful_ and now it all makes sense. I assumed it was just a very poor stylistic choice (and I suppose it may still have been intentional), but it now seems just as likely they were struggling with using digital production techniques and set/lighting designs that were incompatible.
I noticed in the Dante's Peak sequence that the cars go around the bend at the same speed they were going straight, which only slot cars do since they're not fighting inertia and slowing down to turn like full-size cars do.
I was wondering what happened to punch 4 punch a few days ago. I'm glad you guys are continuing!
Gentlemen, this is my first time viewing this channel and this video, which includes 2 of my favorite movies, made me an instant fan!! Subscribed!!!!! Also, hope Sam is feeling better......
Nice to see jordan get off the bench and on the couch, such a team player.
As a photographer, I am all too familiar with the "everything is lit with pure blue" problem. Such a pain.
The creators of Southwark created a movie entirely with MASSIVE miniatures in "Team America: World Police" and the behind the scenes on that are ridiculous. You can find videos on TH-cam easily, what they were able to accomplish was groundbreaking and worth the watch!
3:30… What’s most amazing is seeing that these miniature shots were accomplished in early to mid January 1997…AND THE MOVIE WAS RELEASED FEBRUARY 7th!! Three weeks later!
Flash Gordon is one of my favorites. I'd love to see you guys react to some of the practical effects from that movie
Oh my gooood this video couldn’t have been better timed I literally just watch Watchmen last week and was like damn I really want Corridor Crew to talk about Rorschach!
If only there was a renowned miniature maker and absolute subject expert that you could invite to do another episode.
And yes, please, more miniature stuff.
Another brilliant episode!
Effing love VFX Artists React (and all its spin-offs). Corridor Crew is seriously in my top 5 best YT channels of all time. Ya'll are entertaining as sin, teach me so much about the industry, and you all just seem like great folks. Keep on keepin' on, guys. I'm here for all of it.
Also, future episode request: all dinosaurs. All dinosaurs + analysis of how their appearance in VFX has changed with the science (if it has at all).
Watchmen 2009 is a true hidden gem of a movie.
That movie sucks, Snyder didn't get the point of the original comic at all. It does look great but the themes are all screwed up
@felipeaguena5289 If you aren't a die-hard fan of the graphic novel then it is an awesome movie. I had very limited knowledge of Watchmen and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. It was also who was attached to the movie that made me enjoy it. Solid Snake himself was a writer for the movie. And for some die-hards it was still a good movie because they finally get to see their violent alternatives in the big screen. Even if the story is muddled and chopped to hell
@@felipeaguena5289 SnYdEr DiDn'T blah blah blah. We all saw what that tv adaptation did to the story. Snyder did an amazing job with adapting that huge storyline to a 'movie' and doing necessary changes to make it feel less awkward. If this was done by a marvel director, people would praise him for years even if it ended as a pile of cr*p. "Oh but it's SnYdEr, so we have talk cr*p about it", that's what these turds do every time. Just grow up already😆
I fucking love this movie, a masterpiece super underrated.
If by "hidden gem" you mean million-dollar blockbuster success remembered by all
You guys definitely need to get some miniature experts on the show. That would be an interesting watch
Jordan BASED. Watchmen is simply amazing.
And even though to this day, and probably never, Alan Moore hasn't seen the movie, he gave his approval/blessings to the script.
Wait did Sam actually have food poisoning? Is he ok? Lmao
I noticed the odd blue lighting in the Kenobi series when I watched it, and it makes sense that it's because they shot it on digital. For comparison, the sequel trilogy was shot mostly on film, so even though they used the same blue led prop lightsaber trick that they used in Kenobi, the night scenes with the blue lightsaber (like the forest duel at the end of Ep 7) look fantastic.
Yup. I thought the same thing
Hopefully Sam recovers. Good episode today. Yeah, I would definitely watch an episode or two dedicated to just miniatures.
Great video guys! Missing the 'bad cgi' part though! Would love to watch you guys laugh at some awful stuff again ;)
I'm pretty sure you guys have already covered this, but the LoTR trilogy has some REALLY good miniature work.
Yep, they did at least one or two videos about the CGI and the miniatures.
Or "bigatures" as Weta calls them.
Dr Manhattan is still the great especially for 2009, really holds up well
For me Watchmen, the first couple of Transformers movies, and the first couple of Pirates of the Caribbean movies are the prime examples of movies that were way ahead of their time, CGI wise. Disregarding whatever flaws the actual movies have, they look better visually than most of the movies that come out today.
@@rokeYouuer Agreed, Davy Jones is still one of the best CGI characters of all time, and it was 2006.
@@rokeYouueroh yeah, for 2007 Transformers looks AMAZING
That Dantes Peak miniature shot is unbelievably good, great film making
Journey to the Beginning of Time from 1955 contains actors in conjunction with stop-motion animation of dinosaurs, alongside other clever techniques, way before Jurassic Park. I recommend taking a look.👌
I love miniatures too! great episode, would love you guys to do more episodes. Also puppetry is pretty cool as well, the amount of work Jim Henson put into movies like the Dark Crystal is amazing and the Netflix Prequel the Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (I'm still extremely salty about Netflix canceling the series) they did some great work too, the amount of detail they put into it you could see on the making of documentary.
9:04 SLAPP
So happy you looked at League of Extraordinary Gentlemen!! I've always been amazed by the FX
I would love to see a breakdown and behind the scenes for Small Soldiers!
Stop motion counts as miniatures right? Kubo and the Two Strings has some insane action sequences worth taking a look at the behind the scenes for!
yes yes yes!!! i saw it the other day and was completely blown away. it was perfection! they should bring someone from Laika down!
Did you know that Michael Jackson used miniatures in his Leave Me Alone and Black or White videos. You should consider covering them as he has so many short films with practical and visual effects. Well, that’s you’re weekly request for MJ that you will ignore again 👋🏽
That entire discussion about how blue light interacts differently between film and digital was fascinating!
Love seeing how practical effects are used and the creativity of them. Can we get a TOP 10 list of the crews favorite practical effects? Of maybe sub categories of practical effects with motion cams, perspective, miniatures, and more?
Miniature work in film, starting with Star Wars, is THE reason why I got interested in filmmaking at all. CG and VFX are awesome, but there's nothing like an awesome miniature set or sequence.
I LOVED watching the league of extraordinary gentlemen when I was younger. I love this movie so so much. Great story and great characters
This is throwing me back to FX "DVD on TV" so hard right now. IYKYK
Loved this video as always! I hope Sam is ok and that someone checked on him after this video, food poisoning is very painful and not something be joked about.
Are you trying to guilt trip them?
Damn crazy episode
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It’s been barely 5 minutes
Love all the sound effects during this episode. The knee slap lol
Think about how much time it would take to make such detailed miniatures, insane!
i LOVE that you fellas point out the awesome miniature work as well as the cgi, and respect the hard work done. Fist bumps from Canada :) ps: hope Sam finally stepped off the toilet.....
YES!!! This is one of my favorite versions of the Invisible Man!!
Been very hopeful you'd cover the Dante's Peak river scene. Some of my favourite SPFX work ever comitted to film.
The best miniatures have to be the Terminator 2 nuke scene and the Independence Day initial destruction scenes. Blowing up New York, LA, and Washington DC looked sooo good. And the method they used for explosions so they blew out sideways instead of up was so good.
What a great episode!
I do toy photography and I've struggled with some of my shots, specifically those where I've used a lot of blue emitting LED lights, this totally explains my problem! So thank you so much!!!
LET"S GO!!! I get so excited for this
The '89 Batman had some great miniature work in it. True Lies as well. Love that bridge explosion! :D
I recently did a rewatch of 3 Ninjas. Such a silly movie and peak 90s, but you guys should react to the stunts, fighting and choreography in the film. It's surprisingly well done.