Bighit was small, BTS built it up. The big 3 is still the big 3, they have the most power and influence in Korea. Hybe is currently the most lucrative, the richest. Limited power in Korea though
HYBE, formerly known as Bighit, has much profit gained combined the “the big 3” companies for the past 6-7 years already. Hybe is in a different level compared to those 3 companies. It’s not that Hybe have “limited” power, the company just doesn’t use their connections and power to manipulate and play the media like what the other 3 companies have always done.
back then, groups like BTS had to work 2x harder to get recognized by the Korean media to show their talent. while the group under the big three. when they debuted they already got attention from the Korean media. BTS is lucky, they debuted where the internet is everywhere, so they post their videos mostly on utube, to show their talent. they don't depend on Korean media alone. Some experts say BTS didn't grow because of the media like other kpop groups. but they grew because of their fan(ARMY)
V on Suga's talk show Suchwita just told us that in 2018 when they started to get really big internationally they had to work so hard all the time that they seriously contemplated disbanding bc it was just too much. In one occasion, V had asked for one day off bc he was so damn tired but it was refused bc of the tight schedule. He even thought of getting injured on purpose so he could get some time off. Seriously, they paid with blood, sweat and tears to get where they are now.
It broke my heart when he said that. I remember reading that there was a stretch where they only had 1.5 days off per MONTH. That means they had to work 28.5 days out of a 30 day month. Insane does not even adequately describe it. Those videos of them injured and collapsed were heart rending. The amount hard work they put in and still they experience so much hate. I just can’t comprehend it
They don’t do after parties. After wins and concerts they go to their hotel rooms and go live with fans to thank them. That’s why you’ll see many lives from hotel rooms
'I Need You' is the start of the Bangtan Universe or BU. The lyrics were originally supposed to be 'I need you FRIEND' but they changed it to GIRL because it just sounded better. The song itself is a different message from the MV.
So part of the focus in this episode is the 'Big 3 Privilege.' Even getting in the running for a win on any of the music shows is a huge accomplishment for any group not part of the big 3 (JYP, SM & YG). BTS and Big Hit were not part of the big 3 so people were surprised that these guys were even in the running. Not only did BTS score high enough to be in the running but they also got first. Others could not accept that (not realizing that BTS was more well known internationally than they were in Korea) so their first thoughts were it had to be 'fixed' or 'they were cheating'. That guy was talking about how cheating to make your songs or albums chart was and is a real thing so it was not a stretch for some people to believe that BTS must have used this method to win. And realistically every music industry around the world tries to cheat their way to the top but in other countries it's called 'BUNDLING'. Here's the mug or T-shirt you ordered and here's your free digital copy of the album. (these bundles count towards charting numbers big time in North America). Big Hit did not have the money or the resources (or the bad ethics) to try to do this. BTS won because of their music and the hard work of ARMY from around the world. And it really sucks that they barely had time to enjoy their win before they were attacked. Unfortunately this wouldn't be the last time. (for instance War of Hormone). BTS from the beginning and even to this day always celebrate their wins and losses with ARMY. The videos are on their channel where you can find some of their lives along with Bangtan Bombs and more. The trip to Malaysia was a working trip (a photo shoot). They have multiple of these that you can watch called 'SUMMER PACKAGE' and 'WINTER PACKAGE'. 'BON VOYAGE' is where they takes trips and also have multiple seasons (also fun to watch).
Actually they've had a burnout point during their career. In 2018 they were really struggeling and thinking about disbanding. As far as I know Jungkook and V wanted to leave. V was so burned out that he thought about hurting himself to get some free time. He's said so in the Suchwita interview with Suga. When they've won a daesang that year Jin, mentioned it during his speech. And at the Festa (BTS birthday party) V and Jungkook mentioned that Suga wrote them a longe message and ended it with "I love you". They've figured it out somehow and I'm soo glad they did. And I think they've found a way to balance work and downtime.
I've heard V mentioned as a likely candidate, but also heard strong arguments against it - but V was exhausted and missing his family, that's absolutely true. He was also depressed due to several deaths in his close family in a short timespan. As for the others, I don't know - J-Hope nearly left the group BEFORE their debut, but JK talked him into staying. He got a lot of hate from cyber bullies and considered going back to dancing full time at Yoongi wrote his Outro: Tear verse about the situation and was clearly feeling heartbroken/betrayed by whoever wanted the "breakup" so I don't think it was him. No matter who it was, and for what reasons, they DID make the decision to stay together - which I, for one, am very grateful for.
I suggest you react to TEAR by the rappers ....its about the members when they were thinking of quiting... First started out, the members all shared a similar dream of being successful. However, with the group’s fame and launch into the international market, the shared dream became a topic of conflict rather than one of hope
BTS is not part of BIG 3, their company was nothing, they have nothing. The member once said that it's the first time they realized hard work doesn't guarantee you success. Till today they have the most remarkable, out of the movie, underdog story. They don't even have enough money to pay for spots on TV, let alone to manipulate charts. These sajaegi accusations, among others, are just antis wanting to bring them down so badly, 2013-2017 was rough.
This era is both a blessing and a curse imo. They started winning and breaking through to the Korean public, but they were still relatively unknown in their home country. The first Army who showed real support for the boys hail from Europe and the U.S. Koreans took a looooong while to open up to Bts, and the harsh topics they talked about were some of the reasons for it. Mental health and youth suffering from depression was a big taboo in Korea (it still is).
@@DANDJREACT The lyrics for ,,I need u" are not in correlation with the m/v, because the m/v itself is a part of the BU storyline, where boys go through some painful stuff (it's all fictional of course, but they still use their names for the purpose of the story). 💜
the guy in the beginning says "please show a lot of love to the middle tier kpop groups the not so famous ones" then it cuts to bts that implies bts are in that tier in that moment in 2015 meaning theyre small and less privileged. HYBE did not exist until 2020. it was bighit until late 2019 that bts label was small. and even though hybe seems big now did you hear what they said about the power sm yg and jyp have? they still have that same power today in 2023. hybe does not have all that power. im not sure how you got confused there but he was saying bts are one of the groups that need love because they dont have much support.
Big 3 refers to SM, YG and JYP. These companies were already very big and had media on their side. Back when BTS debuted they came from a smaller label, so they couldnot promote themselves as much as some of the groups under Big 3 labels. So they weren't all that popular domestically. However internationally this Big 3 companies didnot have any influence, so BTS gained a much bigger fandom overseas first. Note that currently BTS is very big domestically as well. But it took years for Korean general public to notice them. I think this is why some journalist back then ( around 2014-2015 ) accused them of chart manipulation. Because BTS was selling better than some groups that was more popular than them in South Korea, journalists thought there might be some kind of manipulation going on. Later BTS label bighit won a court case and was proven innocent. Also as BTS became big in 2021 Bighit rebranded as Hybe Corporations. They even bought several other sublabels under them. Today Hybe is wealthier than the Big 3 companies by a large margin. But the difference between Hybe and Big 3 is like new money vs old money. Hybe is wealthier, but Big 3 still have more connections in the entertainment sector and media.
Actually, one important thing to know - the big 3 kpop companies likely DID NOT have quite the same struggles as Big Hit. To my understanding all of the Big 3 are owned by chaebol groups. So in Korea they have companies that are basically sanctioned by the government and have a lot of power and influence because of that which makes it easier for them to dominate the market compared to smaller startups. These are called chaebol groups (think Samsung). Imagine Google or Microsoft deciding they want to create a new subsidiary to make music (and assuming the big music labels in the US weren't already a thing) and you'll kind of understand how the Big 3 came about.
Exactly... The big 3 didn't debut from the scratch like BigHIt, they benefitted from financial subsidies given at the time by the government to promote the hallyu wave, even a ministery of culture dedicated to kpop was created in the 90', and it helped the big 3 a lot to establish connections and even own a big part of the medias.... Also some of their CEO are former idols themselves and they were huge at their time, so when they created their respectives labels they had already established a name and earned lot of money, which attracted more investors.... Big Hit and BTS didn't benefit of any of these financial helps and since they didn't have power even investors weren't giving them money until 2015.
5:53 I mean, more money/power/influence, more doors open. But what the ARMY who made this was saying, is BTS was one of those middle tier idol groups at that time. Not big 3, not super famous, they were one of the ones that needed the support.
They get accused of sajaegi because at that time, BTS is still nugu (unknown) group in korea, eventho they are already popular in international (they already entered billboard chart in 2015 both in US dometic album sales and with global sales)That why BTS album sales is get sell more in international than in korea (at that time) and music show is counting all album sales, that bought in domestic also bought in international. The voting points also opened for international vote (not just domestic vote). That why BTS get higher points in album sales n voting criteria, exceeds the other nominations point for that categories who are only popular in korea. On that year, korean people esp kpop fandom is more focused on korean popularity n ignore international popularity coz kpop is not really popular like now in international. Most of popular idol group at that time is more popular in domestic than international. BTS is the anomaly, their fandom are more bigger in international than in domestic in the beginning. Army in korea is still considered small in 2015, but already have strong n bigger fandom in international. They started gained an attention n get more domestic fandom because I need you, and become more established n Army starting become big fandom in korea in 2016 after "blood sweat n tears" is released, and get recognize by korea general public in 2017 after "spring day" is release. Spring day is still and the only song in korean history has long charting in korea biggest streaming until now and still strong in top 30-50 ranking for 6 years. That shows how korean public really love that song n still get lot of people streaming it until now, not just by fans An artist who get accused for sajaegi n plagiarism, it can damage their career, especially for idol who really get weight by public for their image (if u have bad image, then u will get kicked out from the industry aka get cancel). To make clear their name, Bang PD took this case to the court n give of the receipt of album order both from company data and official music store n distribution data. Even International Armys also sending their receipt to bighit so they can apply to the court to proof that internasional fans really buying BTS album. In the end, the court clear up BTS name and announced it BTS sales is not sajaegi, but there is indeed lot of buying from overseas. Even BTS name had get clear by the court, but kpop fandom from popular group at that time denied that n keeps attacking BTS n Army with make trending their name in media social with labeled as "sajaegi boys" for many years. They still cant accepted n dont believed BTS is popular in international. Until BTS get nominated n win for social award in billboard n from other foreign music award in 2017, that time they get slapped by reality that BTS indeed is more popular in international than their fave lol... (even some of them until now are still denied it n accused bighit buy billboard award n other foreign music award for BTS. They still cant accepted the reality 😂😂😂)
In my opinion, the I need you era gave a whole new experience to BTS to create more mental health, social and youth related issues concepts in their upcoming albums. When I first heard this song, I didn't even get the message behind this song and the whole album but I kept watching the songs repeatedly and understood what they wanted to say to the viewers and I have to admit that they keep introducing deeper and deeper concepts in their music and it always gets better and better in every album they release with unique but real issues. Also you have to react to funky songs of BTS where you will get to know different BTS style of music like, Fun Boys, Attack on BTS Japanese version live, am i wrong, Baepsae with explaination video, look here and yes Jhope and Suga's duet i.e. SOPE - Oska in Japan concert and many more which are rearely recommended BTS songs.
The story of BTS is really atypical of K-pop in general. BTS began to gain strength internationally before in Korea, in fact when the Korean industry realized what was happening with BTS it was already too late and they had already begun their rise. The irony of all this is that it was precisely the mistreatment and attacks by the industry, the media and the Kpop fandoms that gave the strength to ARMY to undertake their own fight to support the boys, the fandom understood that the The only way to protect them was to make them so big that they were untouchable. ARMY began with translations, raising funds to pay for advertising screens, articles in magazines, paying for TH-cam Adds but in this case, since it could not be with official material from the boys, it was done by directing them to BTS fancams, they began to organize in block international fanbases for voting on programs and competitions, raise funds to sponsor the purchase of music for fans who did not have the resources, support the reactions of TH-cam channels ETC ETC ETC Everything exploded with the Billboard 2017 when BTS won their first award in the USA because this gave them a huge boost that attracted many new fans, which gave even more strength to ARMY to continue giving everything for the boys.
When you have the MEDIA on your side, you hv the POWER. That's what the BIG 3 has. I don't know if you remember this.There is part in Bora magazine video you hv watched literally an interview a famous commentater saying that BTS and the company did not go thru this system where you hv to kiss the journalist and entertainment companies as*just so they can lift you up. BTS and BIGHIT/HYBE did the opposite. That what made the MEDIA is SK mad. They tried to downplay BTS achievement since then and undermine their success at every corner. P/s English is my not my first language.😂
Some ppl have said it already but Hybe didn’t exist in 2015. BigHit entertainment was just a small label. Ridiculously small when compared to the big 3. The big 3 privilege is abt how no matter how untalented and lazy a group from the big 3 is they’ll have fans, a decent debut, will be promoted in the media, will have articles written abt them… doesn’t mean that if they want to be at the TOP of K-pop they don’t need to work hard, they definitely do, but a group like BTS had to work 10x harder and relied on their fans much more than they relied on their company. That’s the difference between the groups during this time. You may think that right now things are different bc HYBE is big and very rich, but in Korea the big 3 still have the media power. Their artists still get more coverage, BTS is still lied abt and sabotaged. Boracity has a great video abt the music industry “why the music industry is terrified of BTS” it’s mostly abt the American industry but she touches a little bit on the Korean side of it and how they treat BTS. BTW BigHit eventually went to court bc of the “chart manipulation” accusations and were cleared of all of it, they didn’t cheat their way to the top, they worked harder and had army to support them. That’s why that bond is so strong, why BTS have always shown so much appreciation and love for army. One of my favorite songs made for army is “bulletproof: the eternal”, you should check it out.
And another thing. BTS’s label is “BigHit music”. Hybe is a corporation, not a label. So it doesn’t really make sense to talk abt hybe, the same way we talk abt YG, SM and JYP. Ppl get so confused abt that and think a group like new jeans is part of BTS’s label, they’re not. Their label is Ador not BigHit. Ador is part of hybe corporations just like BigHit, but they are 2 separate labels, with different managers, producers, etc. Boracity also has a good video “is the Hybe family a thing?” that has a section that explains this a little bit, the video itself is abt something else but maybe it would be a good watch.
When they were accused of buying their own albums BH actually had to go to court to prove their innocence over those allegations. They had a huge movement on social media getting ARMY to post receipts for their albums from all over. The big 3 has their hand in the media so they can influence different articles and shows where BH and HYBE may be big now but still has no influence there.
That was such a dirty tactic by haters tho,,,imagine being dragged to court for sthg u didnt do, and u had to spread out all your financials and assets for everyone to see that you couldn't even attempt to cheat bc as a company, youre TOO POOR to do so, like you dont even got the money. Haters used to make fun of BTS back in the day for being poor, and make fun of armys for being fans of poor artists,,like how messed up was that
@@sidochka3039BTS were one of few who actually write own music and made some of the beats but people were making fun of them not affording a song writer? Like that is so backwards when is writing own song something embarrassing?
And I remember back then bts were called out wearing cheap clothes (I believe RM or was it jimin) who said they use to cut holes in some of their clothes to make it more “stylish” to decorate from a plain black t-shirt back in the debut days
No one is taking any credibility away from those big big Company. But when BTS debuted there company was really small. Their company didn't have the finances like the big 3. They were look down at, mistreated and cut from broadcast because they didn't have any money. They started out with nothing. The other groups from Big 3, didn't have to worry about money, they were given all that after they debuted because they have financial support.
Welcome to the Bangtan Universe. There is so much in the stories that go along with the videos. It is really a great story line. They each had intense high expectations of themselves; They pushed themselves, Bang PD gave them freedoms to do as much as they chose, but they each drove themselves and worked to encourage each other to push themselves. They are incredible. They did reach a serious crossroad in 2018 where they had to really reflect on what they wanted their future to be. Once again, they dug in and surrounded themselves with each other and pushed through. Now they do have more freedom and leisure time and it is ironic that Covid put them in a place where they had more down time, but they weren’t allowed to tour. Thankfully there were online concerts and Run BTS; In the Soop. They are the best because they expect more than the best of themselves. 💜🫶🏽🎼😊
In the song 'I Need You Girl', the Girl word is a personification of 'hope'. BTS' usually personifies the emotion or subject of the song. They often use 'girl' to represent either hope or pain dependong on the message of the song. Sometimes,girl also represents the thing that matters most to them, like a friend family or the ARMY.
HYBE just got the money to finance their artists but they don't have the power over KMedia and broadcasting even until now. BTW, BTS also got burned out even collapsed backstage after some performances. They are just so professionals that they don't show it to fans. If you react to Burn The Stage BTS documentary series, you will see how tired they were and even got injured but still kept performing. They had medics to give them first aid. It's heart beaking.
In that IQ game show (2016), RM landed third where he could have easily landed No. 1. Bighit had to cut short his appearance due to their upcoming tour concert. One of the contenders, admitted that in 1 show after 5 long years (2021). By the way, all of the contenders were known celebrities with high IQ like RM after who made it on top 10 at the National College Entrance Exams. At that time of the show, RM was on vacation because of an injury. Like V, when he appeared in a soap series, the production had to cut short his appearance by killing the character he played.
You're right, BigHit was a super small, not very well funded company during this era (and Hybe was far from existence then). BigHit wasn't even privy to the type of financial investment that the aforementioned, well-established "Big 3" were, so promoting BTS was a bare bones endeavor. To top it off, it was like a catch 22 for BTS because they were not from the Big 3, their opportunities/support was a rarity - getting a decent gig on a tv show type of exposure was like a miracle break for them. The powers that be within the kpop industry and its politicized hierarchy structure was actively working against BTS for sure. But damn, BTS's talents would not be refused!;)
BTS literally singlehandedly turned a struggling-almost -bankcrupt company (big hit) into the HYBE, but don’t get it twisted, altho HYBE is big now but they still DON’T have the influence into controlling the media or music shows in south korea, the big3 still owns that. Yess HYBE is bigger than all the big3 combined moneywise n global-impact wise, but mediaplay n music shows controls still belongs to the big3 who btw now a medium3, especially YG Ent. n SM Ent., in 2021 the Korea Exchange made an announcement based on the cash flow n profit, that YG and SM are no longer a blue-chip companies n they now a Mid-Sized companies. In a big year of 2021 where people thought that “kpop” is exploding espc blackpink (from YG) n some groups from SM) turned out all the demand are fake, it’s all mediaplay but on paper they loss profit bcos mediaplay n buying awards ain’t cheap, they want to portray themselves as big as BTS but bts got all that organically with their talent, not depending on company mediaplay n company money to buy awards, streams, and espc YTB VIEWS. Yep YG n SM earned some big money (big income) but people have to know how much money they have to put out to GAIN that big income cos the korea exchange has declared that theyre BROKE, they only have popularity, money? Not so much cos they buyin everything, by everything i really mean EVERYTHING. Do u know that YG Ent. has been on the red every year in their annual profit report? SM was on n off, sometime they made profit sometimes not so much, but YG really surprised me cos they have blackpink, the big kpop group second to BTS (that’s wht people said), but couldn’t bring profit to the company table…bcos pegs are bigger than poles…that mediaplay n bought ytb views, bought spotify streams, bought awards finally came to bite them in the a$$, the proof is on the paper which is the Korea Exchange report.
@@DANDJREACT only 1 did by far. 3 others r thinking of leaving n move to other company, that’s what they said but idk, they been dragging bout this renewal for months n that company is well-known of this kinda publicity stunt to creata some kinda “hype” to stay relevant in this industry cos they barely releasing music nor interact with their fans, thats what dissapointing, i was a blink but i left cos i don’t feel appreciated,they only interact with their fans during comeback time, other than that theyre just I.A don’t care, they just want our money cos even their live on weverse is paid where bts is free. Everything has to be paid with their content yet they gave not even a bare minimun for their fans, lazy performance at concert, lipsync with loud playback, songs that sound the same, always bout how pretty n savage they r, how skinny they r, how many branded things they have like bruh…at first it was fun but after 2-3 songs i had enough lol. Sorry for the long “rant” cos i really believed they have potential but theyre just to lazy to even pick a pen n write a good song that’s not abt being skinny, pretty n branded stuffs, n be honest bout really writing a song or not cos one of the girls said she has a part where she wrote a line in their song but couldn’t tell which line cos she forgot….like whaattt??? How u forgot which lines u wrote??? Just be honest n admit that u have no credits to the song…i feel sorry for the real writers cos in some songs one or two of the girls r in the credits as one of the writers but they be confused when people ask which part did they write, they just insert their name to avoid more mockery for not writing when in fact they have no credits whatsoever. Back to renewal contract, i think MAYBE they will still be together cos they love the fame they got from being blackpink even tho they can’t stand each other…they actually want to go solo for good but don’t want to disband cos they know the fame as solo won’t as big as a group (bp).
Ahhh btw I enjoy your reactions. Ofcourse rather than knowing everything about Bangtan's history, you interpret some stuff as what a new fan might interpret them as...which may or may not be accurate 😂 but its real in a sense that any info is interpreted by a person with regards to what we know and can relate to based on our own respective lives. So, some fans might like to pitch in on info and interpretations and stuff 😆. Anyhow i enjoy watching yguys enjoying bts content, and hearing your thoughts on bts as you get to know them 😊
A thing to remember when you watch these episodes- the knowledge the creator gives through the side videos (like the big 3) are usually added to give context on the climate of the industry & the world during that specific period of BTS’s journey. Imagine you’re an ARMY living during that period of BTS’s journey. Fans must know the environment that surrounded BTS to be able to understand their story. The big three for a while were SM, JYP, & YG. People payed less attention to smaller companies before BTS.
I swear we Army fight so much with the other's grupe fans, it was a nightmare, they would talk shit about the guys or their work everytime, but et last we did win,🥺💪
3:45 ikr 17:27 The song is not abt I need you GIRL, the word girl is used as personification for something tht gives Hope, the MV has a vast meaning 💜 Also, the stabbing scene is an illustration of how V Feels abt wht he has done, not wht “Actually” happened. Innocence was lost before tht sequence, when V had hit his father. The repeat stabbing is only V’s interpretation of what happened (even though what happened actually didn’t and was only a metaphor for growing up).
Bighit was never in the Hybe 3 and still isn’t, the big 3 refers to the companies that first started kpop, bighit was a small company back then, they weren’t bringing in a lot of profit and were on the verge of bankruptcy, they couldn’t afford to maintain bts either, Yoongi said that they were once told to find some other place to live because bighit didn’t have any more money, bts made bighit one of the biggest/successful companies in South Korea. The ceo has credited bts many times because they built Hybe, the money that was used to create Hybe and acquire other labels is BTS’S MONEY. Bts’s money was used for hybe trainees, without bts, hybe would have never existed and all the groups under Hybe right now would have never existed. Also the majority of Hybe idols have said that they auditioned because bts influenced them, a lot of Hybe idols are fans of bts and acknowledge that bts came from nothing and had a rough beginning. Bts is hybe’s most successful artist and the ones that are still bringing in the most profit, even now that bts is releasing solo albums/singles, hybe’s stocks are increasing and the shareholders are happy with Hybe when bts members announce that they will drop an album. Jimin and jungkooks solo Music had a huge impact on Hybe and it’s worth after they got number 1 on the billboard hot 100. As a 2014 army, I am beyond proud of bts and I’m glad I got to witness their growth.
I think IQ tests tend to focus on measuring problem solving ability rather than specific knowledge in any particular field. That said, they are definitely flawed since there's different types of intelligence as well, and it's not limited to logical/mathematical reasoning. Emotional intelligence is a big one that is not measured by a lot of IQ tests.
Did we watch the same video? Because the video clearly stated The Big 3 consists of YG, SM & JYPE (bts is not under these companies) there’s no Bighit/Hybe on the list so where did y’all get conclusion the video is saying “bts had it easy”?? Please pause the video when you’re watching these type of videos and digest the details for better comprehension. The video is basically showing how BTS became big even if they’re not under the big 3 privilege. BTS is not just a group, they’re a movement. They literally built HYBE into a multi billion dollar company.
The I Need You MV is more about the "Story line" that runs along BTS MVs that not necessarily relates to the song lyrics. Although I think the MV is also about the song which is only shown as metaphor. Like the stabbing scene. He didn't really stab the man, he might only feels like doing so when you relate to lyrics or the pain might feel that way. And the fighting scene of JK, the pills, the water, the fire, the faint (drone scene). They all were felt or "thought of doing" when you're heartbroken. But when you're with friends, you feel better. Like the scene when the boys are together, they seem happy. Just an opinion. I might have gotten this idea from others (ARMYs or reactors) too. Can't remember.
31:37 You can see BTS shocked, happy n emotional, This award is so special for BTS and Armys, this was their first ever win for a Comeback track "I need u" after making their debut... if they hadn't win this award BTS would've disbanded !! Jungkook once said during BTS’ radio interview -“This song is special to us in many ways. As‘I Need You’ got us our very first No. 1 win on a Korean music show. I think back then it was when we first got the feeling that we were finally being noticed, finally about to make it.” 💜✨
@@DANDJREACT yhh it is, I heard this from old Armys tht it was a very special moment for them. I became a part of Army in 2020, I wish i knew BTS earlier, bt Suga once said tht "The day you become Army is the day we debuted for you", n this line always gives me relief. 💜
BTS would always opt to go live from their hotel with Army to celebrate and share their experience and would turn down invites to after parties after any awards ceremonies and events, these are all documented
Right, even after AMAs debut performance and first bbmas 2017 TSA, I would think theyd wabt to celebrate with US celebrities at an after party, but they celebrated live with us, makes it more special than watching a behind the scenes of them at an after party. But no surprises, they usually clelebrate many occasion with Army.
BIG THREE is - JYP, SM and YG BTS is from BIGHIT wich is not part of the big three, sooooo no privilege, and until this day BIGHIT still not part of the BIG THREE but they became more more MORE successful than the big three
30:10 It doesn't make any sense 😂, BTS or particularly Bighit was not financially big enough to do tht. They just couldn't digest tht a small group like BTS can defeat them !
1. Obviously HYBE is one of the big companies in S.Korea but the BIG3 refers to SM,YG and JYP. These companies has strong connections with broadcasting networks and press within S.Korea which is developed over 20 years. HYBE came to existence only in 2019. HYBE only has more money not the power, influence and connection like these companies. You may hear the term BIG4 from some Kpop fans but that term doesn't make any sense. There's only BIG3 in S.K. 2. BTS had their share of burn outs. I guess around 2018,they even contemplated about disbanding because everyone was at their limits. But they talked among themselves and decided to continue. The fans didn't knew about this at that time. Recently in the talk show Suchwita,V shared the experience he had at that time. 3. For that chart manipulation accusation, BTS went to the court and proved all the sales were legitimate.
What rubs me the wrong way is the blind loyalty to big 3 acts. JYP did preorders for a group's album that no one knew about and it sold millions. No one knew the members, no one had heard the music - they just got it cause It's JYP
I need u MV was the start of the “Bangtan Universe”. It’s a fictional storyline. Music videos that are part of it are marked with “BU content certified by Big Hit Entertainment” in the description box. There has been comic books based on the storyline and a tv drama series with professional actors based on the BU is being made as well.
@@DANDJREACT Exactly when I look at what they’ve endured and I’m still finding 5 years into this, stuff that blows me away…They were just meant to be who and where they are…there’s a spiritual hand guiding these guys and knocking the roadblocks out of the way….There’s just too much that should have stopped them but couldn’t…I can’t wait for you to discover things ….you’re surprised by what you’ve seen but you are just getting started can’t wait for this💜💜💜
do come to Kuala Lumpur! the city is amazing! we have various food choices, cuisine. korean food, chinese food, indian food, malay food, arab food and everythinggg! with our currency so low right now, you guys better come now. a bit hot but don't worry you can find water everywhere. we, malaysian also nice ❤
Come to Malaysia. We have so many beautiful places, amazing food and multi ethnic society. ❤Cheesy but true. Its nothing like Dubai. Totally different vibe.
So the I need u video is apart of the bangtan universe so the videos lyrics do not real,y go with the music video. Also the lyrics changed. Originally it was I need u FRIEND but RM didn't like how that flowed so they changed it to girl instead
Yay, I am from Malaysia. We hv beautiful islands and beaches, delicious food, indoor theme park in a shopping mall, lots and lots of trees even in cities. You'll love it here.
so, I need you is the first song of what we call the BU or Bangtan universe. This has a storyline that runs through the next several songs. don't try to understand it, you will make yourself nuts at this point. I need you is about all kinds of love. Love for friends, for family for parents, a partner, self, all of it and how we can screw it up and it affects others. RM's IQ is 148.
Amo!!! Continuem reagindo! The rise of bangtan é incrível, emocionante, explica muito bem a trajetória dos meninos Obrigada Por reagir ao BTS, como não ama -los 💜
I need U MV is a part of BTS universe story (the starting points), then for next video that part of BU will be like move forward n back between past (flash back) and at present times. And the lyrics in I need U will be not have correlation with the MV story (lyrics n MV is independent from each other)
KL is overated.. i would know, i work here.. 😂 Go to Sabah or something.. the East of Malaysia is beautiful.. or the more rural areas.. more beautiful.. 😂 Oh but i guess South East Asia countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand etc, we have good food.. you can try loads of good food.. Oh
22:33 the BTS members struggled a lot with burnout and exhaustion in the year of 2018 when they were preforming and promoting their Love Yourself albums, with songs like Idol and Fake Love. Only recently have they seemed ready to talk about that year with army, expressing how difficult that year was for them and why. We've known it was a hard time for them because they expressed in their speech at a 2018 award show after winning a daesang (grand prize) that the beginning of the year was so hard that they felt like they wanted to quit being a group and nearly all of the members were crying on stage. We could tell it was harder than they fully expressed to us. Jin and Suga on Suchwita talked about how every month they would get 1 & 1/2 day off since they were so busy with promotions, practice and just working in general and how angry they felt over that 1/2 day. On Suchwita's most recent episode, V & Suga talked about how V felt completely exhausted and burned out during that time, desperately wanting just 1 day off and when they couldn't because they had to practice, V felt like maybe getting hurt would get him that day off.
Amo suas reações, sou army a quase 4 anos e conheço o kpop a 5 anos, sobre a big 3 o que vou comentar é com base em tudo o que consumi sobre o kpop,a sm foi a empresa que criou o sistema treine eles não tinham concorrência, depois temos a jyp e a yg o kpop ainda estava engatinhando quando os primeiros grupos dessas empresas estavam começando, a big hit de 2013 era uma empresa nova, pequena e estava no vermelho, o bts debutou quando já existia grupos completamente estabelecidos e muito famosos, a big 3 já eram as empresas que dominavam a indústria do entretenimento coreano.
As I rewatch this with you, I notice that even if they were in the reds still during this time, they have really expensive gadgets they use, like the Red camera and the camera drones, etc. Idk if they rented that or if they invested early on in these equipment. I do remember the ones they bought during the American Hustle Life which are for recording and producing, so Idk if they included the expensive cams etc in that investment. The two bad guys beating Jk up in that scene were actually their managers/staff because they could not hire actors except for the ones in the scenes with V. I am pretty sure the I Need U era is the start of the awakening of the general public and non-armys to the BTS power.. The mv is a bit dark and incorporated in the Bangtan universe story that flows through out their songs and albums. There is an alternate story which is really fascinating
Wow this was awesome info. Yea I just found it weird they had such expensive cameras being so poor at the beginning considering anyone in the film industry knows how much those cameras are worth
It has become increasingly more apparent to me that the other idol groups are not allowed to mention BTS’ name even if the members are friends. I’ve seen them speak highly of BTS and its members in the abstract without naming the group’s name. That’s why I think it’s the labels promoting the toxic rivalry, not the bands themselves.
Thy were getting huge internationally but in Korea they weren’t known. So when They started winning and outselling all the current big groups in Korea at the time, people easily believed and spread the narrative of this new group must be cheating bc how can they possibly beat my fave group. So the fandoms of every other big group at the time seriously dumped more hate on them. That’s why u see them say things like times are hard, so and so is having a tough time etc
Ermmm after party yeah lots go time to go live with ARMY that's their after party they don't attend functions. They go to their hotel rooms and go live with ARMY.
É bom ver suas reações, vocês se perguntaram se eles não ficaram esgotados, e a resposta é sim, veja eles debutaram em 2013 e a primeira pausa de verdade que eles fizeram foi em 2019 quando tiveram 2 meses de ferias antes disso eles tinham folga de 1, 2 dias, não sei se vocês percebem o quanto os integrantes do bts ficam a vontade com as cameras, a quantidade de conteúdo gravado deles é tanto que acho que a bighit tem conteúdo armazenado pros próximos 5 anos, no último suchwita o suga e o v estavam falando sobre o v aprendendo a toca violino, eles estavam em turnê, no hotel e era um momento privado, mas enquanto falavam disso o suga perguntou a produção se eles tinham um vídeo do v tocando, foi ai que minha ficha caiu pra peceber o qual incomum é a vida que eles vem levando nesses 10 anos.
I think as opposed to them having a knife over their head, they had a lot of passion and the chance to make it if they kept going, so they kept their dream in mind and kept working really hard. It’s such a hard thing to do, you really have to want something to work that hard.
It was supposed to be I Need you friend but it didn’t sound right so it was changed to girl. This is the first MV in the BU their story line. It was also their first music show win sense debut. It took 2 years to get one.
@@DANDJREACT bts if from bighit which turned to HYBE which was a small company it was bankrupted at one point bts was going to disband at one point during th O.N era because their company don’t have enough money and couldn’t afford many of the actors in BTS’s MVs were actually staffs because they couldn’t afford it. Bts said only started making in 2016 after they got rid of all their debt but the big three refers to “YG, JYP, and SM”
But I think you read it wrong misunderstanding since you thought it says HYBE, YG, SM etc but bighit was very very small back then bts members even had to have part time job at one point and suga said he couldn’t even afford high school because he was very poor but bang pd paid it out of pocket even though the company was very very small bighit only became HYBE in march 2021 on broadcast they were laughed at because they came from a small company and was not given a changing room and have to change in a public bathroom and there is photos online of how they use to record songs in car garages
No, they didn't get it easier, they were the middle ones, famous but without the support of one of the big 3 ( SM, JYP, YG) companies, them company is Big Hit and they were nearly on bankrupt when Bang PD formed BTS. So the big 3 they not allow the TV stations to show groups from the small companies. That's why this groups from small companies sometimes succed internationally before than in Korea, he clearly meant BTS. Bellieve it or not BTS hit harder internationally, my korean friends didn't believe me that they were so big, since tv didn't show them international success either.
BigHit was a small company it's said that in 2017 when BTS went to their first appearances in US all the company flew with them to support them just imagining having around 30 employees it was that small, in 2019 is when BigHit started to get more employees and just in 2021 change to HYBE y bum! a corporation is born and started to adquiere a bunch of companies, so HYBE is big in money but not on influence cuz is still so new in comparison to the others 3 And I don't think that they want to be in debt with journos, sometimes the journos complain that BH not answers the calls or dont have to much access to the boys 😅
I always look forward your reactions to BTS. Both of you are sincere in my opinion and I like that very much. Kudos! Also not being rude or anything, I just want to inform you that Dubai is in Asia. 😊
you should see the MV In the middle of reacting these series please.. This song is a major point of the storyline Bangtan universe(BU) storyline .... song lyrics are nothing to do with that...
I Need You song was the start of BU/Bangtan Universe there's a storyline within the MV that are connected to other MV's and it is another rabbit hole to dig into 😊😊😊
Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. Appreciate u continuing your reactions on the Rise of Bangtan. Adore this series. Have rewatched maybe 100 times now. HYBE is the big 4 now. HYBE is actually the wealthiest among the 4. BTS were doing a comeback at music bank and other shows. Those are competition shows. This was explained early in the series. Back then they had to perform early in the morning for a few weeks. Now u can just perform a week. The rules have changed. It's a little easier these days during comebacks. The guys do get burned out. They got burned out in 2018 and in 2022. If u watch Festa Dinner 2022 u will see. RM and Suga were so burned out. it was painful for them to write songs. They could not write anymore. It's a really emotional video for us armies, sigh. Last year they had less work because they were on a break and getting ready to enlist. They were able to rest and relax and work on solo music. The break was really needed. They will come back in late 2025 much recharged and with new strength. BTS celebrate a win with army going live. They have cake and drink. They chat with us. They speak mostly in Korean with a few Eng words here and there. We go to twt for translations or wait a day for Weverse to put subs on. Love the song. They deserved to win all the awards for that song. And Big Hit was a really small agency back than. The choreo is cool too. Good chap. Seeing those reactions was so cool. It was not a vacation it was a photoshoot. It was work! Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💟 @michealogboru9578 said on 11/18/23 Yes, he was talking about BTS they were not so famous, and then they came from the smallest label in korea and the Big3 label fans hated on them bc they were small and didn't have money but ppl loved them internationally. @naffy113 said on 11/18/23 It wasn't a vacation, but was pretty much like one but with photoshoots included. It was for their Summer Package (2015), which is like content they made for ARMY that included a DVD of footage from their trip & games they played (kind of like both bon voyage and run bts) and a photo book is included too with photoshoots that they took there. It may not be a proper vacation, but it was definitely a welcomed break/change in their busy music show promotional schedule in Korea. @solovely7419 said on 11/18/23 The most beautiful moment in life album will be it 10th years anniversary on 2025..BTS will continue this album project when they back on 2025.
THE AWARD THEY WON AT THE MCOUNTDOWN IN THIS VIDEO, THAT AWARD WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEM IN ORDER TO SURVIVE IN THE INDUSTRY. IT WAS THE LAST CHANCE FOR THEM. THE COMPANY WAS ON THE VERGE OF GETTING BANKRUPT. THAT IS THE REASON THE MEMBERS WERE SAYING PLEASE HELP US ARMY.
INFO: It has been way too many years now and my memory sucks, but if i recall it was suppose to be I need you friend but it didnt work with the lyrics and had to be changed.
@@DANDJREACT Welcome and yes Jhope is a big goof ball but the trouble makers were the maknae line jimin, tae and JK, actually if i recall it was Tae and JK that had people scratching their heads in the group wondering what planet they were from....LOL
Since the I Need You music video is a part of the BTS Universe storyline, the music videos do not correlate with the lyrics. Although some interpret the lyrics to hint at the girl they need to mean other things.
In fact RM has stated he had to use 'girl' so it worked lyrically however the song and all the BU really follows the storyline of 7 friends who are soulmates and their complex and interwoven lives..... it's a whole other thing to get your head around, there is a definite order to be able to even start to understand the MV's and storyline. Plus you would probably still need one of the fan made explanation videos as it is so complex along with Webtoons as well! It's 🤯
@DANDJREACT I'd personally recommend the video by Suga Spice called BTS music videos have a fictional storyline guide (for beginners). Although many recommend the "storyline explained" videos by XCeleste, it's really difficult to grasp everything in those videos because you've barely been introduced and XCeleste puts everything together outside of the music videos, like the notes & webtoons, which can get confusing for a introduction into the BTS Universe. The video I'm recommending is simpler so it's a good way to get introduced before you dive head first into it all. But just know it's from 5 years ago and doesn't contain every single thing, ex: the webtoon series, which is integral to the storyline that adds a lot of context and info that we didn't know about from the mv's, is not included in this video. It's just a simpler intro.
Bighit was small, BTS built it up. The big 3 is still the big 3, they have the most power and influence in Korea. Hybe is currently the most lucrative, the richest. Limited power in Korea though
That’s unfortunate
HYBE, formerly known as Bighit, has much profit gained combined the “the big 3” companies for the past 6-7 years already. Hybe is in a different level compared to those 3 companies. It’s not that Hybe have “limited” power, the company just doesn’t use their connections and power to manipulate and play the media like what the other 3 companies have always done.
@@ruthlessrays9761 yes right
And that's what they should do right, not manipulating , be honest and show the truth whether wins or results.
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True 👍
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back then, groups like BTS had to work 2x harder to get recognized by the Korean media to show their talent. while the group under the big three. when they debuted they already got attention from the Korean media. BTS is lucky, they debuted where the internet is everywhere, so they post their videos mostly on utube, to show their talent. they don't depend on Korean media alone. Some experts say BTS didn't grow because of the media like other kpop groups. but they grew because of their fan(ARMY)
Thank god all the hard work paid off
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V on Suga's talk show Suchwita just told us that in 2018 when they started to get really big internationally they had to work so hard all the time that they seriously contemplated disbanding bc it was just too much. In one occasion, V had asked for one day off bc he was so damn tired but it was refused bc of the tight schedule. He even thought of getting injured on purpose so he could get some time off. Seriously, they paid with blood, sweat and tears to get where they are now.
Yeah, they had 1,5 days off pr. month, and I think Jin said that that half day felt almost like a mockery?
It broke my heart when he said that. I remember reading that there was a stretch where they only had 1.5 days off per MONTH. That means they had to work 28.5 days out of a 30 day month. Insane does not even adequately describe it. Those videos of them injured and collapsed were heart rending. The amount hard work they put in and still they experience so much hate. I just can’t comprehend it
They don’t do after parties. After wins and concerts they go to their hotel rooms and go live with fans to thank them. That’s why you’ll see many lives from hotel rooms
That’s impressive
'I Need You' is the start of the Bangtan Universe or BU. The lyrics were originally supposed to be 'I need you FRIEND' but they changed it to GIRL because it just sounded better. The song itself is a different message from the MV.
Thanks for letting us know
So part of the focus in this episode is the 'Big 3 Privilege.' Even getting in the running for a win on any of the music shows is a huge accomplishment for any group not part of the big 3 (JYP, SM & YG). BTS and Big Hit were not part of the big 3 so people were surprised that these guys were even in the running. Not only did BTS score high enough to be in the running but they also got first. Others could not accept that (not realizing that BTS was more well known internationally than they were in Korea) so their first thoughts were it had to be 'fixed' or 'they were cheating'.
That guy was talking about how cheating to make your songs or albums chart was and is a real thing so it was not a stretch for some people to believe that BTS must have used this method to win. And realistically every music industry around the world tries to cheat their way to the top but in other countries it's called 'BUNDLING'. Here's the mug or T-shirt you ordered and here's your free digital copy of the album. (these bundles count towards charting numbers big time in North America).
Big Hit did not have the money or the resources (or the bad ethics) to try to do this. BTS won because of their music and the hard work of ARMY from around the world. And it really sucks that they barely had time to enjoy their win before they were attacked. Unfortunately this wouldn't be the last time. (for instance War of Hormone).
BTS from the beginning and even to this day always celebrate their wins and losses with ARMY. The videos are on their channel where you can find some of their lives along with Bangtan Bombs and more.
The trip to Malaysia was a working trip (a photo shoot). They have multiple of these that you can watch called 'SUMMER PACKAGE' and 'WINTER PACKAGE'. 'BON VOYAGE' is where they takes trips and also have multiple seasons (also fun to watch).
Okay great we will watch that soon
Perfectly put!!
Actually they've had a burnout point during their career. In 2018 they were really struggeling and thinking about disbanding. As far as I know Jungkook and V wanted to leave. V was so burned out that he thought about hurting himself to get some free time. He's said so in the Suchwita interview with Suga. When they've won a daesang that year Jin, mentioned it during his speech. And at the Festa (BTS birthday party) V and Jungkook mentioned that Suga wrote them a longe message and ended it with "I love you". They've figured it out somehow and I'm soo glad they did. And I think they've found a way to balance work and downtime.
That’s good they found balance
I've heard V mentioned as a likely candidate, but also heard strong arguments against it - but V was exhausted and missing his family, that's absolutely true. He was also depressed due to several deaths in his close family in a short timespan.
As for the others, I don't know - J-Hope nearly left the group BEFORE their debut, but JK talked him into staying. He got a lot of hate from cyber bullies and considered going back to dancing full time at Yoongi wrote his Outro: Tear verse about the situation and was clearly feeling heartbroken/betrayed by whoever wanted the "breakup" so I don't think it was him.
No matter who it was, and for what reasons, they DID make the decision to stay together - which I, for one, am very grateful for.
@@GreyMinerva Same here. Happy they worked it out and stayed together.
I suggest you react to TEAR by the rappers ....its about the members when they were thinking of quiting... First started out, the members all shared a similar dream of being successful. However, with the group’s fame and launch into the international market, the shared dream became a topic of conflict rather than one of hope
@@choym8730 I’m pretty sure we already did that song. Should be in our BTS playlist.
BTS is not part of BIG 3, their company was nothing, they have nothing. The member once said that it's the first time they realized hard work doesn't guarantee you success. Till today they have the most remarkable, out of the movie, underdog story.
They don't even have enough money to pay for spots on TV, let alone to manipulate charts. These sajaegi accusations, among others, are just antis wanting to bring them down so badly, 2013-2017 was rough.
Thanks for the clarification
This era is both a blessing and a curse imo. They started winning and breaking through to the Korean public, but they were still relatively unknown in their home country. The first Army who showed real support for the boys hail from Europe and the U.S. Koreans took a looooong while to open up to Bts, and the harsh topics they talked about were some of the reasons for it. Mental health and youth suffering from depression was a big taboo in Korea (it still is).
That actually makes a lot of sense USA and Europe would support them first. More open minded over here.
@@DANDJREACT The lyrics for ,,I need u" are not in correlation with the m/v, because the m/v itself is a part of the BU storyline, where boys go through some painful stuff (it's all fictional of course, but they still use their names for the purpose of the story). 💜
@@zuzannabrzeszczak1578 I see. Thanks for explaining
I know you didn't just discredit JARMY and most Asian countries that supported BTS from the beginning.
the guy in the beginning says "please show a lot of love to the middle tier kpop groups the not so famous ones" then it cuts to bts that implies bts are in that tier in that moment in 2015 meaning theyre small and less privileged. HYBE did not exist until 2020. it was bighit until late 2019 that bts label was small. and even though hybe seems big now did you hear what they said about the power sm yg and jyp have? they still have that same power today in 2023. hybe does not have all that power.
im not sure how you got confused there but he was saying bts are one of the groups that need love because they dont have much support.
They have our support💜💜
Big 3 refers to SM, YG and JYP. These companies were already very big and had media on their side. Back when BTS debuted they came from a smaller label, so they couldnot promote themselves as much as some of the groups under Big 3 labels. So they weren't all that popular domestically. However internationally this Big 3 companies didnot have any influence, so BTS gained a much bigger fandom overseas first. Note that currently BTS is very big domestically as well. But it took years for Korean general public to notice them.
I think this is why some journalist back then ( around 2014-2015 ) accused them of chart manipulation. Because BTS was selling better than some groups that was more popular than them in South Korea, journalists thought there might be some kind of manipulation going on. Later BTS label bighit won a court case and was proven innocent.
Also as BTS became big in 2021 Bighit rebranded as Hybe Corporations. They even bought several other sublabels under them. Today Hybe is wealthier than the Big 3 companies by a large margin. But the difference between Hybe and Big 3 is like new money vs old money. Hybe is wealthier, but Big 3 still have more connections in the entertainment sector and media.
Got it. Thanks for explaining
That is in South Korea- the bit 3's influence is massive there still in all the networks, music shows and air time.
One could call HYBE the' Nouveau riche' of the Kpop Industry.
Actually, one important thing to know - the big 3 kpop companies likely DID NOT have quite the same struggles as Big Hit.
To my understanding all of the Big 3 are owned by chaebol groups. So in Korea they have companies that are basically sanctioned by the government and have a lot of power and influence because of that which makes it easier for them to dominate the market compared to smaller startups. These are called chaebol groups (think Samsung).
Imagine Google or Microsoft deciding they want to create a new subsidiary to make music (and assuming the big music labels in the US weren't already a thing) and you'll kind of understand how the Big 3 came about.
I get what you are saying
Exactly... The big 3 didn't debut from the scratch like BigHIt, they benefitted from financial subsidies given at the time by the government to promote the hallyu wave, even a ministery of culture dedicated to kpop was created in the 90', and it helped the big 3 a lot to establish connections and even own a big part of the medias.... Also some of their CEO are former idols themselves and they were huge at their time, so when they created their respectives labels they had already established a name and earned lot of money, which attracted more investors.... Big Hit and BTS didn't benefit of any of these financial helps and since they didn't have power even investors weren't giving them money until 2015.
@@yasminesb7947 awesome info thanks for the update 😊
5:53 I mean, more money/power/influence, more doors open. But what the ARMY who made this was saying, is BTS was one of those middle tier idol groups at that time. Not big 3, not super famous, they were one of the ones that needed the support.
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They get accused of sajaegi because at that time, BTS is still nugu (unknown) group in korea, eventho they are already popular in international (they already entered billboard chart in 2015 both in US dometic album sales and with global sales)That why BTS album sales is get sell more in international than in korea (at that time) and music show is counting all album sales, that bought in domestic also bought in international. The voting points also opened for international vote (not just domestic vote). That why BTS get higher points in album sales n voting criteria, exceeds the other nominations point for that categories who are only popular in korea. On that year, korean people esp kpop fandom is more focused on korean popularity n ignore international popularity coz kpop is not really popular like now in international.
Most of popular idol group at that time is more popular in domestic than international. BTS is the anomaly, their fandom are more bigger in international than in domestic in the beginning. Army in korea is still considered small in 2015, but already have strong n bigger fandom in international. They started gained an attention n get more domestic fandom because I need you, and become more established n Army starting become big fandom in korea in 2016 after "blood sweat n tears" is released, and get recognize by korea general public in 2017 after "spring day" is release. Spring day is still and the only song in korean history has long charting in korea biggest streaming until now and still strong in top 30-50 ranking for 6 years. That shows how korean public really love that song n still get lot of people streaming it until now, not just by fans
An artist who get accused for sajaegi n plagiarism, it can damage their career, especially for idol who really get weight by public for their image (if u have bad image, then u will get kicked out from the industry aka get cancel). To make clear their name, Bang PD took this case to the court n give of the receipt of album order both from company data and official music store n distribution data. Even International Armys also sending their receipt to bighit so they can apply to the court to proof that internasional fans really buying BTS album. In the end, the court clear up BTS name and announced it BTS sales is not sajaegi, but there is indeed lot of buying from overseas. Even BTS name had get clear by the court, but kpop fandom from popular group at that time denied that n keeps attacking BTS n Army with make trending their name in media social with labeled as "sajaegi boys" for many years. They still cant accepted n dont believed BTS is popular in international. Until BTS get nominated n win for social award in billboard n from other foreign music award in 2017, that time they get slapped by reality that BTS indeed is more popular in international than their fave lol... (even some of them until now are still denied it n accused bighit buy billboard award n other foreign music award for BTS. They still cant accepted the reality 😂😂😂)
Lmao they’ll never except it 😂
In my opinion, the I need you era gave a whole new experience to BTS to create more mental health, social and youth related issues concepts in their upcoming albums. When I first heard this song, I didn't even get the message behind this song and the whole album but I kept watching the songs repeatedly and understood what they wanted to say to the viewers and I have to admit that they keep introducing deeper and deeper concepts in their music and it always gets better and better in every album they release with unique but real issues.
Also you have to react to funky songs of BTS where you will get to know different BTS style of music like, Fun Boys, Attack on BTS Japanese version live, am i wrong, Baepsae with explaination video, look here and yes Jhope and Suga's duet i.e. SOPE - Oska in Japan concert and many more which are rearely recommended BTS songs.
Okay I’ll check them out
The story of BTS is really atypical of K-pop in general.
BTS began to gain strength internationally before in Korea, in fact when the Korean industry realized what was happening with BTS it was already too late and they had already begun their rise.
The irony of all this is that it was precisely the mistreatment and attacks by the industry, the media and the Kpop fandoms that gave the strength to ARMY to undertake their own fight to support the boys, the fandom understood that the The only way to protect them was to make them so big that they were untouchable.
ARMY began with translations, raising funds to pay for advertising screens, articles in magazines, paying for TH-cam Adds but in this case, since it could not be with official material from the boys, it was done by directing them to BTS fancams, they began to organize in block international fanbases for voting on programs and competitions, raise funds to sponsor the purchase of music for fans who did not have the resources, support the reactions of TH-cam channels ETC ETC ETC
Everything exploded with the Billboard 2017 when BTS won their first award in the USA because this gave them a huge boost that attracted many new fans, which gave even more strength to ARMY to continue giving everything for the boys.
Agreed💜
Kpop did anything to bring them down. Including accusing them of such. ARMY all over the world presented receipts though
Yes oh my those jealous kpop flops bringing plagiarism issues to what now to bring them down guess what bts is the biggest grp in the current decade 😂
It’s so sad
When you have the MEDIA on your side, you hv the POWER. That's what the BIG 3 has. I don't know if you remember this.There is part in Bora magazine video you hv watched literally an interview a famous commentater saying that BTS and the company did not go thru this system where you hv to kiss the journalist and entertainment companies as*just so they can lift you up. BTS and BIGHIT/HYBE did the opposite. That what made the MEDIA is SK mad. They tried to downplay BTS achievement since then and undermine their success at every corner.
P/s English is my not my first language.😂
People just can’t except that BTS are amazing
Some ppl have said it already but Hybe didn’t exist in 2015. BigHit entertainment was just a small label. Ridiculously small when compared to the big 3. The big 3 privilege is abt how no matter how untalented and lazy a group from the big 3 is they’ll have fans, a decent debut, will be promoted in the media, will have articles written abt them… doesn’t mean that if they want to be at the TOP of K-pop they don’t need to work hard, they definitely do, but a group like BTS had to work 10x harder and relied on their fans much more than they relied on their company. That’s the difference between the groups during this time.
You may think that right now things are different bc HYBE is big and very rich, but in Korea the big 3 still have the media power. Their artists still get more coverage, BTS is still lied abt and sabotaged. Boracity has a great video abt the music industry “why the music industry is terrified of BTS” it’s mostly abt the American industry but she touches a little bit on the Korean side of it and how they treat BTS.
BTW BigHit eventually went to court bc of the “chart manipulation” accusations and were cleared of all of it, they didn’t cheat their way to the top, they worked harder and had army to support them. That’s why that bond is so strong, why BTS have always shown so much appreciation and love for army. One of my favorite songs made for army is “bulletproof: the eternal”, you should check it out.
I’ll check out bullet proof.
And another thing.
BTS’s label is “BigHit music”.
Hybe is a corporation, not a label.
So it doesn’t really make sense to talk abt hybe, the same way we talk abt YG, SM and JYP. Ppl get so confused abt that and think a group like new jeans is part of BTS’s label, they’re not. Their label is Ador not BigHit. Ador is part of hybe corporations just like BigHit, but they are 2 separate labels, with different managers, producers, etc.
Boracity also has a good video “is the Hybe family a thing?” that has a section that explains this a little bit, the video itself is abt something else but maybe it would be a good watch.
When they were accused of buying their own albums BH actually had to go to court to prove their innocence over those allegations. They had a huge movement on social media getting ARMY to post receipts for their albums from all over. The big 3 has their hand in the media so they can influence different articles and shows where BH and HYBE may be big now but still has no influence there.
I don’t believe they cheated
That was such a dirty tactic by haters tho,,,imagine being dragged to court for sthg u didnt do, and u had to spread out all your financials and assets for everyone to see that you couldn't even attempt to cheat bc as a company, youre TOO POOR to do so, like you dont even got the money.
Haters used to make fun of BTS back in the day for being poor, and make fun of armys for being fans of poor artists,,like how messed up was that
@@sidochka3039 that’s so messed up. What a shame
@@sidochka3039BTS were one of few who actually write own music and made some of the beats but people were making fun of them not affording a song writer? Like that is so backwards when is writing own song something embarrassing?
And I remember back then bts were called out wearing cheap clothes (I believe RM or was it jimin) who said they use to cut holes in some of their clothes to make it more “stylish” to decorate from a plain black t-shirt back in the debut days
No one is taking any credibility away from those big big Company. But when BTS debuted there company was really small. Their company didn't have the finances like the big 3. They were look down at, mistreated and cut from broadcast because they didn't have any money. They started out with nothing. The other groups from Big 3, didn't have to worry about money, they were given all that after they debuted because they have financial support.
Well it’s impressive that BTS made it
Welcome to the Bangtan Universe. There is so much in the stories that go along with the videos. It is really a great story line. They each had intense high expectations of themselves; They pushed themselves, Bang PD gave them freedoms to do as much as they chose, but they each drove themselves and worked to encourage each other to push themselves. They are incredible.
They did reach a serious crossroad in 2018 where they had to really reflect on what they wanted their future to be. Once again, they dug in and surrounded themselves with each other and pushed through. Now they do have more freedom and leisure time and it is ironic that Covid put them in a place where they had more down time, but they weren’t allowed to tour. Thankfully there were online concerts and Run BTS; In the Soop.
They are the best because they expect more than the best of themselves. 💜🫶🏽🎼😊
That’s what makes them the greatest 💜😊
In the song 'I Need You Girl', the Girl word is a personification of 'hope'. BTS' usually personifies the emotion or subject of the song. They often use 'girl' to represent either hope or pain dependong on the message of the song. Sometimes,girl also represents the thing that matters most to them, like a friend family or the ARMY.
Thanks for sharing
the line was originally "i need you friend" and was changed because "girl" flowed better.
@@sherry5808 got it thanks 😊
Yeah except songs that are actually about romantic feeling from early albums
@@sherry5808 they call that as thr poetic license/provilege of musicians where they are allowed to treat rhyme and rhythm over grammar or syntax.
HYBE just got the money to finance their artists but they don't have the power over KMedia and broadcasting even until now. BTW, BTS also got burned out even collapsed backstage after some performances. They are just so professionals that they don't show it to fans. If you react to Burn The Stage BTS documentary series, you will see how tired they were and even got injured but still kept performing. They had medics to give them first aid. It's heart beaking.
That’s terrible
In that IQ game show (2016), RM landed third where he could have easily landed No. 1. Bighit had to cut short his appearance due to their upcoming tour concert. One of the contenders, admitted that in 1 show after 5 long years (2021). By the way, all of the contenders were known celebrities with high IQ like RM after who made it on top 10 at the National College Entrance Exams. At that time of the show, RM was on vacation because of an injury.
Like V, when he appeared in a soap series, the production had to cut short his appearance by killing the character he played.
He could have easily places first. you are right
You're right, BigHit was a super small, not very well funded company during this era (and Hybe was far from existence then). BigHit wasn't even privy to the type of financial investment that the aforementioned, well-established "Big 3" were, so promoting BTS was a bare bones endeavor. To top it off, it was like a catch 22 for BTS because they were not from the Big 3, their opportunities/support was a rarity - getting a decent gig on a tv show type of exposure was like a miracle break for them. The powers that be within the kpop industry and its politicized hierarchy structure was actively working against BTS for sure. But damn, BTS's talents would not be refused!;)
BTS literally singlehandedly turned a struggling-almost -bankcrupt company (big hit) into the HYBE, but don’t get it twisted, altho HYBE is big now but they still DON’T have the influence into controlling the media or music shows in south korea, the big3 still owns that. Yess HYBE is bigger than all the big3 combined moneywise n global-impact wise, but mediaplay n music shows controls still belongs to the big3 who btw now a medium3, especially YG Ent. n SM Ent., in 2021 the Korea Exchange made an announcement based on the cash flow n profit, that YG and SM are no longer a blue-chip companies n they now a Mid-Sized companies. In a big year of 2021 where people thought that “kpop” is exploding espc blackpink (from YG) n some groups from SM) turned out all the demand are fake, it’s all mediaplay but on paper they loss profit bcos mediaplay n buying awards ain’t cheap, they want to portray themselves as big as BTS but bts got all that organically with their talent, not depending on company mediaplay n company money to buy awards, streams, and espc YTB VIEWS. Yep YG n SM earned some big money (big income) but people have to know how much money they have to put out to GAIN that big income cos the korea exchange has declared that theyre BROKE, they only have popularity, money? Not so much cos they buyin everything, by everything i really mean EVERYTHING.
Do u know that YG Ent. has been on the red every year in their annual profit report? SM was on n off, sometime they made profit sometimes not so much, but YG really surprised me cos they have blackpink, the big kpop group second to BTS (that’s wht people said), but couldn’t bring profit to the company table…bcos pegs are bigger than poles…that mediaplay n bought ytb views, bought spotify streams, bought awards finally came to bite them in the a$$, the proof is on the paper which is the Korea Exchange report.
Did blackpink resign contracts?
@@DANDJREACT only 1 did by far. 3 others r thinking of leaving n move to other company, that’s what they said but idk, they been dragging bout this renewal for months n that company is well-known of this kinda publicity stunt to creata some kinda “hype” to stay relevant in this industry cos they barely releasing music nor interact with their fans, thats what dissapointing, i was a blink but i left cos i don’t feel appreciated,they only interact with their fans during comeback time, other than that theyre just I.A don’t care, they just want our money cos even their live on weverse is paid where bts is free. Everything has to be paid with their content yet they gave not even a bare minimun for their fans, lazy performance at concert, lipsync with loud playback, songs that sound the same, always bout how pretty n savage they r, how skinny they r, how many branded things they have like bruh…at first it was fun but after 2-3 songs i had enough lol. Sorry for the long “rant” cos i really believed they have potential but theyre just to lazy to even pick a pen n write a good song that’s not abt being skinny, pretty n branded stuffs, n be honest bout really writing a song or not cos one of the girls said she has a part where she wrote a line in their song but couldn’t tell which line cos she forgot….like whaattt??? How u forgot which lines u wrote??? Just be honest n admit that u have no credits to the song…i feel sorry for the real writers cos in some songs one or two of the girls r in the credits as one of the writers but they be confused when people ask which part did they write, they just insert their name to avoid more mockery for not writing when in fact they have no credits whatsoever.
Back to renewal contract, i think MAYBE they will still be together cos they love the fame they got from being blackpink even tho they can’t stand each other…they actually want to go solo for good but don’t want to disband cos they know the fame as solo won’t as big as a group (bp).
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Awesome info thanks for sharing this with us 👍👍
Weverse has archived lives from them showing after concerts, wins, bdays, etc. Love watching them. 💜💜💜
Awesome. I’ll look into weverse💜💜💜
Ahhh btw I enjoy your reactions. Ofcourse rather than knowing everything about Bangtan's history, you interpret some stuff as what a new fan might interpret them as...which may or may not be accurate 😂 but its real in a sense that any info is interpreted by a person with regards to what we know and can relate to based on our own respective lives.
So, some fans might like to pitch in on info and interpretations and stuff 😆.
Anyhow i enjoy watching yguys enjoying bts content, and hearing your thoughts on bts as you get to know them 😊
We are still newbies but we love learning about these guys. They are so impressive. Thanks for watching 😊
A thing to remember when you watch these episodes- the knowledge the creator gives through the side videos (like the big 3) are usually added to give context on the climate of the industry & the world during that specific period of BTS’s journey.
Imagine you’re an ARMY living during that period of BTS’s journey. Fans must know the environment that surrounded BTS to be able to understand their story. The big three for a while were SM, JYP, & YG. People payed less attention to smaller companies before BTS.
I see. That makes sense
I swear we Army fight so much with the other's grupe fans, it was a nightmare, they would talk shit about the guys or their work everytime, but et last we did win,🥺💪
You all won the war.
3:45 ikr
17:27 The song is not abt I need you GIRL, the word girl is used as personification for something tht gives Hope, the MV has a vast meaning 💜
Also, the stabbing scene is an illustration of how V Feels abt wht he has done, not wht “Actually” happened. Innocence was lost before tht sequence, when V had hit his father. The repeat stabbing is only V’s interpretation of what happened (even though what happened actually didn’t and was only a metaphor for growing up).
I see. Thanks for explaining🙏💜
@@DANDJREACT 💜💜
@@Hehehehehehe7 💜💜
Bighit was never in the Hybe 3 and still isn’t, the big 3 refers to the companies that first started kpop, bighit was a small company back then, they weren’t bringing in a lot of profit and were on the verge of bankruptcy, they couldn’t afford to maintain bts either, Yoongi said that they were once told to find some other place to live because bighit didn’t have any more money, bts made bighit one of the biggest/successful companies in South Korea. The ceo has credited bts many times because they built Hybe, the money that was used to create Hybe and acquire other labels is BTS’S MONEY. Bts’s money was used for hybe trainees, without bts, hybe would have never existed and all the groups under Hybe right now would have never existed. Also the majority of Hybe idols have said that they auditioned because bts influenced them, a lot of Hybe idols are fans of bts and acknowledge that bts came from nothing and had a rough beginning. Bts is hybe’s most successful artist and the ones that are still bringing in the most profit, even now that bts is releasing solo albums/singles, hybe’s stocks are increasing and the shareholders are happy with Hybe when bts members announce that they will drop an album. Jimin and jungkooks solo Music had a huge impact on Hybe and it’s worth after they got number 1 on the billboard hot 100. As a 2014 army, I am beyond proud of bts and I’m glad I got to witness their growth.
Awesome info and excellent breakdown.
Thanks for sharing it with us 😊
They were talking about the 3 big company, not big hit. Big hit was very small. Bts were from the category not famous
I see
I think IQ tests tend to focus on measuring problem solving ability rather than specific knowledge in any particular field. That said, they are definitely flawed since there's different types of intelligence as well, and it's not limited to logical/mathematical reasoning. Emotional intelligence is a big one that is not measured by a lot of IQ tests.
So what you’re saying is there’s a chance I could be a genius? 😂
Did we watch the same video? Because the video clearly stated The Big 3 consists of YG, SM & JYPE (bts is not under these companies) there’s no Bighit/Hybe on the list so where did y’all get conclusion the video is saying “bts had it easy”?? Please pause the video when you’re watching these type of videos and digest the details for better comprehension. The video is basically showing how BTS became big even if they’re not under the big 3 privilege. BTS is not just a group, they’re a movement. They literally built HYBE into a multi billion dollar company.
Other groups had it easy compared to BTS. Especially coming from the Big 3
The I Need You MV is more about the "Story line" that runs along BTS MVs that not necessarily relates to the song lyrics. Although I think the MV is also about the song which is only shown as metaphor. Like the stabbing scene. He didn't really stab the man, he might only feels like doing so when you relate to lyrics or the pain might feel that way. And the fighting scene of JK, the pills, the water, the fire, the faint (drone scene). They all were felt or "thought of doing" when you're heartbroken. But when you're with friends, you feel better. Like the scene when the boys are together, they seem happy. Just an opinion. I might have gotten this idea from others (ARMYs or reactors) too. Can't remember.
Thanks for explaining
31:37
You can see BTS shocked, happy n emotional, This award is so special for BTS and Armys, this was their first ever win for a Comeback track "I need u" after making their debut... if they hadn't win this award BTS would've disbanded !!
Jungkook once said during BTS’ radio interview -“This song is special to us in many ways. As‘I Need You’ got us our very first No. 1 win on a Korean music show. I think back then it was when we first got the feeling that we were finally being noticed, finally about to make it.” 💜✨
That’s awesome. What an exciting time to be an ARMY
@@DANDJREACT yhh it is, I heard this from old Armys tht it was a very special moment for them. I became a part of Army in 2020, I wish i knew BTS earlier, bt Suga once said tht "The day you become Army is the day we debuted for you", n this line always gives me relief. 💜
BTS would always opt to go live from their hotel with Army to celebrate and share their experience and would turn down invites to after parties after any awards ceremonies and events, these are all documented
So impressive
Right, even after AMAs debut performance and first bbmas 2017 TSA, I would think theyd wabt to celebrate with US celebrities at an after party, but they celebrated live with us, makes it more special than watching a behind the scenes of them at an after party. But no surprises, they usually clelebrate many occasion with Army.
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That’s so amazing 🤩
BIG THREE is - JYP, SM and YG
BTS is from BIGHIT wich is not part of the big three, sooooo no privilege, and until this day BIGHIT still not part of the BIG THREE but they became more more MORE successful than the big three
That’s crazy
30:10 It doesn't make any sense 😂, BTS or particularly Bighit was not financially big enough to do tht. They just couldn't digest tht a small group like BTS can defeat them !
lol😂
@@DANDJREACT 😂💜
1. Obviously HYBE is one of the big companies in S.Korea but the BIG3 refers to SM,YG and JYP. These companies has strong connections with broadcasting networks and press within S.Korea which is developed over 20 years. HYBE came to existence only in 2019. HYBE only has more money not the power, influence and connection like these companies. You may hear the term BIG4 from some Kpop fans but that term doesn't make any sense. There's only BIG3 in S.K.
2. BTS had their share of burn outs. I guess around 2018,they even contemplated about disbanding because everyone was at their limits. But they talked among themselves and decided to continue. The fans didn't knew about this at that time. Recently in the talk show Suchwita,V shared the experience he had at that time.
3. For that chart manipulation accusation, BTS went to the court and proved all the sales were legitimate.
What rubs me the wrong way is the blind loyalty to big 3 acts. JYP did preorders for a group's album that no one knew about and it sold millions. No one knew the members, no one had heard the music - they just got it cause It's JYP
That’s wrong
No they did not do that, like you said the company was really small and did not have the financial backing to support the accusation.
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The big 3 got their hands in all parts of the entertainment industry. They can get other companies' groups banned
Wow 😡
I need u MV was the start of the “Bangtan Universe”. It’s a fictional storyline. Music videos that are part of it are marked with “BU content certified by Big Hit Entertainment” in the description box. There has been comic books based on the storyline and a tv drama series with professional actors based on the BU is being made as well.
Thanks for the info
No matter what they did in the beginning the sharks just couldn’t take that they were rising and did everything they could to tear em down
But it didn’t work.
Look where they are now.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@@DANDJREACT Exactly when I look at what they’ve endured and I’m still finding 5 years into this, stuff that blows me away…They were just meant to be who and where they are…there’s a spiritual hand guiding these guys and knocking the roadblocks out of the way….There’s just too much that should have stopped them but couldn’t…I can’t wait for you to discover things ….you’re surprised by what you’ve seen but you are just getting started can’t wait for this💜💜💜
@@angie7777-7 These guys were meant to be great no matter what obstacles are in their way
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We will for sure ❤️
btw i would describe kuala lumpur is like new york city but a bit cleaner 🫢
@@vante1918 a bit? Probably 100x cleaner. I’ve been to New York it’s disgusting
Come to Malaysia. We have so many beautiful places, amazing food and multi ethnic society. ❤Cheesy but true. Its nothing like Dubai. Totally different vibe.
Yes, we’re definitely going to visit there as well.
The fact that The big 3 companies make their groups famous and popular BTS built their company from scrratch big difference💜
BTS are the GOATS Of the industry
So the I need u video is apart of the bangtan universe so the videos lyrics do not real,y go with the music video. Also the lyrics changed. Originally it was I need u FRIEND but RM didn't like how that flowed so they changed it to girl instead
Thanks for letting us know
Yay, I am from Malaysia. We hv beautiful islands and beaches, delicious food, indoor theme park in a shopping mall, lots and lots of trees even in cities. You'll love it here.
Great! I’m excited to see the city 😊
so, I need you is the first song of what we call the BU or Bangtan universe. This has a storyline that runs through the next several songs. don't try to understand it, you will make yourself nuts at this point. I need you is about all kinds of love. Love for friends, for family for parents, a partner, self, all of it and how we can screw it up and it affects others. RM's IQ is 148.
Thanks for sharing. RM is a genius.
Amo!!! Continuem reagindo! The rise of bangtan é incrível, emocionante, explica muito bem a trajetória dos meninos
Obrigada Por reagir ao BTS, como não ama -los 💜
Thanks for watching 🙏💜
you guys need to watch bts hardship from 2013 to 2021 that give you more information
I think we reacted to it already it’s in the BTS playlist
I need U MV is a part of BTS universe story (the starting points), then for next video that part of BU will be like move forward n back between past (flash back) and at present times. And the lyrics in I need U will be not have correlation with the MV story (lyrics n MV is independent from each other)
I see
I need you girl, is not about girl is about friendship.
I see
He was saying bts were in the middle group as their company was small and they didnt have the same opportunities
I heard. So crazy
It wasn’t their first MV it was the first without dancing in it. They had videos before at least 5
KL is overated.. i would know, i work here.. 😂
Go to Sabah or something.. the East of Malaysia is beautiful.. or the more rural areas.. more beautiful.. 😂
Oh but i guess South East Asia countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand etc, we have good food.. you can try loads of good food..
Oh
Awesome thanks for the recommendations 😊
Hybe did not exist until 2021, Big hit was a very small company BTS made Hybe. BTS was in the middle a not so famous group.
Thanks for all the info and updates
22:33 the BTS members struggled a lot with burnout and exhaustion in the year of 2018 when they were preforming and promoting their Love Yourself albums, with songs like Idol and Fake Love. Only recently have they seemed ready to talk about that year with army, expressing how difficult that year was for them and why. We've known it was a hard time for them because they expressed in their speech at a 2018 award show after winning a daesang (grand prize) that the beginning of the year was so hard that they felt like they wanted to quit being a group and nearly all of the members were crying on stage. We could tell it was harder than they fully expressed to us. Jin and Suga on Suchwita talked about how every month they would get 1 & 1/2 day off since they were so busy with promotions, practice and just working in general and how angry they felt over that 1/2 day. On Suchwita's most recent episode, V & Suga talked about how V felt completely exhausted and burned out during that time, desperately wanting just 1 day off and when they couldn't because they had to practice, V felt like maybe getting hurt would get him that day off.
I heard it was a hard time for them.
❤❤❤❤" i need you" a very touching songs.
Thanks for ur reaction
God Bless D&J..
Its actually 156 episodes of run bts.
Correct and the RoB is 21 episodes
Amo suas reações, sou army a quase 4 anos e conheço o kpop a 5 anos, sobre a big 3 o que vou comentar é com base em tudo o que consumi sobre o kpop,a sm foi a empresa que criou o sistema treine eles não tinham concorrência, depois temos a jyp e a yg o kpop ainda estava engatinhando quando os primeiros grupos dessas empresas estavam começando, a big hit de 2013 era uma empresa nova, pequena e estava no vermelho, o bts debutou quando já existia grupos completamente estabelecidos e muito famosos, a big 3 já eram as empresas que dominavam a indústria do entretenimento coreano.
Thank you. Yes it’s crazy how HYBE ended up being huge still. I wish them much more success. They defied all odds
The big company’s didn’t like BTS winning, it was proven that they did not do anything wrong. The company was to small to afford to do it.
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Guysssss you both look so handsome when you are smiling ☺️
Love watching these with youuuuu. All the best 💜 Borahae
Thank you so much for the compliment 😃
As I rewatch this with you, I notice that even if they were in the reds still during this time, they have really expensive gadgets they use, like the Red camera and the camera drones, etc. Idk if they rented that or if they invested early on in these equipment. I do remember the ones they bought during the American Hustle Life which are for recording and producing, so Idk if they included the expensive cams etc in that investment.
The two bad guys beating Jk up in that scene were actually their managers/staff because they could not hire actors except for the ones in the scenes with V.
I am pretty sure the I Need U era is the start of the awakening of the general public and non-armys to the BTS power.. The mv is a bit dark and incorporated in the Bangtan universe story that flows through out their songs and albums. There is an alternate story which is really fascinating
Wow this was awesome info. Yea I just found it weird they had such expensive cameras being so poor at the beginning considering anyone in the film industry knows how much those cameras are worth
You probably already know this, but the label usually combined their needed “vacations” into a work opportunity to film specials like In the Soop
It has become increasingly more apparent to me that the other idol groups are not allowed to mention BTS’ name even if the members are friends. I’ve seen them speak highly of BTS and its members in the abstract without naming the group’s name. That’s why I think it’s the labels promoting the toxic rivalry, not the bands themselves.
Thy were getting huge internationally but in Korea they weren’t known. So when They started winning and outselling all the current big groups in Korea at the time, people easily believed and spread the narrative of this new group must be cheating bc how can they possibly beat my fave group. So the fandoms of every other big group at the time seriously dumped more hate on them. That’s why u see them say things like times are hard, so and so is having a tough time etc
Got it thanks 😊
Jimin posted new clip on his instagram few hours ago and it was amazing. You saw that?
I didn’t I just got off work.
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We will!😊
Ermmm after party yeah lots go time to go live with ARMY that's their after party they don't attend functions. They go to their hotel rooms and go live with ARMY.
É bom ver suas reações, vocês se perguntaram se eles não ficaram esgotados, e a resposta é sim, veja eles debutaram em 2013 e a primeira pausa de verdade que eles fizeram foi em 2019 quando tiveram 2 meses de ferias antes disso eles tinham folga de 1, 2 dias, não sei se vocês percebem o quanto os integrantes do bts ficam a vontade com as cameras, a quantidade de conteúdo gravado deles é tanto que acho que a bighit tem conteúdo armazenado pros próximos 5 anos, no último suchwita o suga e o v estavam falando sobre o v aprendendo a toca violino, eles estavam em turnê, no hotel e era um momento privado, mas enquanto falavam disso o suga perguntou a produção se eles tinham um vídeo do v tocando, foi ai que minha ficha caiu pra peceber o qual incomum é a vida que eles vem levando nesses 10 anos.
I think as opposed to them having a knife over their head, they had a lot of passion and the chance to make it if they kept going, so they kept their dream in mind and kept working really hard. It’s such a hard thing to do, you really have to want something to work that hard.
Yes. You have to be obsessed
It was supposed to be I Need you friend but it didn’t sound right so it was changed to girl. This is the first MV in the BU their story line. It was also their first music show win sense debut. It took 2 years to get one.
The I need U mv has nothing to do with the song. It is the start of the BU fictional storyline that runs throughout the videos marked BU.
Mmm I see
Im so proud when you say malaysia is asian dubai..im so welcoming you come to malaysia❤🤗
Aww thanks. Can’t wait to come visit
2018 was their burn out era. It was talked about on Suga's Suchwita with V.
Thanks for the info
@@DANDJREACT You're welcome💜
BTS is not from the big three
They are in HYBE correct?
@@DANDJREACT ? If you watch the video big three consists of YG, JYP, and SM?
@@DANDJREACT bts if from bighit which turned to HYBE which was a small company it was bankrupted at one point bts was going to disband at one point during th O.N era because their company don’t have enough money and couldn’t afford many of the actors in BTS’s MVs were actually staffs because they couldn’t afford it. Bts said only started making in 2016 after they got rid of all their debt but the big three refers to “YG, JYP, and SM”
@@DANDJREACT I think you didn’t read the subtitles correctly but at 3:41, it says big three is: YG, JYP, and SM
But I think you read it wrong misunderstanding since you thought it says HYBE, YG, SM etc but bighit was very very small back then bts members even had to have part time job at one point and suga said he couldn’t even afford high school because he was very poor but bang pd paid it out of pocket even though the company was very very small bighit only became HYBE in march 2021 on broadcast they were laughed at because they came from a small company and was not given a changing room and have to change in a public bathroom and there is photos online of how they use to record songs in car garages
No, they didn't get it easier, they were the middle ones, famous but without the support of one of the big 3 ( SM, JYP, YG) companies, them company is Big Hit and they were nearly on bankrupt when Bang PD formed BTS. So the big 3 they not allow the TV stations to show groups from the small companies. That's why this groups from small companies sometimes succed internationally before than in Korea, he clearly meant BTS. Bellieve it or not BTS hit harder internationally, my korean friends didn't believe me that they were so big, since tv didn't show them international success either.
Ah I see
BigHit was a small company it's said that in 2017 when BTS went to their first appearances in US all the company flew with them to support them just imagining having around 30 employees it was that small, in 2019 is when BigHit started to get more employees and just in 2021 change to HYBE y bum! a corporation is born and started to adquiere a bunch of companies, so HYBE is big in money but not on influence cuz is still so new in comparison to the others 3
And I don't think that they want to be in debt with journos, sometimes the journos complain that BH not answers the calls or dont have to much access to the boys 😅
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I always look forward your reactions to BTS. Both of you are sincere in my opinion and I like that very much. Kudos!
Also not being rude or anything, I just want to inform you that Dubai is in Asia. 😊
Thank you. Oh duh. I don’t know why I thought Dubai wasn’t in Asia 🤦😂
you should see the MV In the middle of reacting these series please..
This song is a major point of the storyline Bangtan universe(BU) storyline .... song lyrics are nothing to do with that...
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Hybe and Bighit were never top three in BTS’s first eight years. They were the opposite. Verging on bankruptcy.
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I Need You song was the start of BU/Bangtan Universe there's a storyline within the MV that are connected to other MV's and it is another rabbit hole to dig into 😊😊😊
Thanks for the info
Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. Appreciate u continuing your reactions on the Rise of Bangtan. Adore this series. Have rewatched maybe 100 times now. HYBE is the big 4 now. HYBE is actually the wealthiest among the 4. BTS were doing a comeback at music bank and other shows. Those are competition shows. This was explained early in the series. Back then they had to perform early in the morning for a few weeks. Now u can just perform a week. The rules have changed. It's a little easier these days during comebacks. The guys do get burned out. They got burned out in 2018 and in 2022. If u watch Festa Dinner 2022 u will see. RM and Suga were so burned out. it was painful for them to write songs. They could not write anymore. It's a really emotional video for us armies, sigh. Last year they had less work because they were on a break and getting ready to enlist. They were able to rest and relax and work on solo music. The break was really needed. They will come back in late 2025 much recharged and with new strength. BTS celebrate a win with army going live. They have cake and drink. They chat with us. They speak mostly in Korean with a few Eng words here and there. We go to twt for translations or wait a day for Weverse to put subs on. Love the song. They deserved to win all the awards for that song. And Big Hit was a really small agency back than. The choreo is cool too. Good chap. Seeing those reactions was so cool. It was not a vacation it was a photoshoot. It was work! Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💟
@michealogboru9578 said on 11/18/23
Yes, he was talking about BTS they were not so famous, and then they came from the smallest label in korea and the Big3 label fans hated on them bc they were small and didn't have money but ppl loved them internationally.
@naffy113 said on 11/18/23
It wasn't a vacation, but was pretty much like one but with photoshoots included. It was for their Summer Package (2015), which is like content they made for ARMY that included a DVD of footage from their trip & games they played (kind of like both bon voyage and run bts) and a photo book is included too with photoshoots that they took there. It may not be a proper vacation, but it was definitely a welcomed break/change in their busy music show promotional schedule in Korea.
@solovely7419 said on 11/18/23
The most beautiful moment in life album will be it 10th years anniversary on 2025..BTS will continue this album project when they back on 2025.
Can’t wait till they come back 🙏💜
me too. I'll be here waiting. @@DANDJREACT
There all a buch of goofballs i love it so much
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THE AWARD THEY WON AT THE MCOUNTDOWN IN THIS VIDEO, THAT AWARD WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEM IN ORDER TO SURVIVE IN THE INDUSTRY. IT WAS THE LAST CHANCE FOR THEM. THE COMPANY WAS ON THE VERGE OF GETTING BANKRUPT. THAT IS THE REASON THE MEMBERS WERE SAYING PLEASE HELP US ARMY.
Got it thanks 😊
Rms IQ is 148 if im correct they said it in the Taylor's Guide. That man is a genius no doubt.
Smarty pants 👖
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4:34 interesting
5:54 interesting
Watch In the Soop. That's their travelog.
We’ll check it out
Bts are not frome the big 3
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Yes we heard. We have been corrected
@@DANDJREACT okay good Just wanted to let you guys know
INFO: It has been way too many years now and my memory sucks, but if i recall it was suppose to be I need you friend but it didnt work with the lyrics and had to be changed.
Thanks for sharing
@@DANDJREACT Welcome and yes Jhope is a big goof ball but the trouble makers were the maknae line jimin, tae and JK, actually if i recall it was Tae and JK that had people scratching their heads in the group wondering what planet they were from....LOL
@@ishtar990 lmao
Since the I Need You music video is a part of the BTS Universe storyline, the music videos do not correlate with the lyrics. Although some interpret the lyrics to hint at the girl they need to mean other things.
I see
In fact RM has stated he had to use 'girl' so it worked lyrically however the song and all the BU really follows the storyline of 7 friends who are soulmates and their complex and interwoven lives..... it's a whole other thing to get your head around, there is a definite order to be able to even start to understand the MV's and storyline. Plus you would probably still need one of the fan made explanation videos as it is so complex along with Webtoons as well! It's 🤯
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What explanation video would you suggest?
@DANDJREACT I'd personally recommend the video by Suga Spice called BTS music videos have a fictional storyline guide (for beginners). Although many recommend the "storyline explained" videos by XCeleste, it's really difficult to grasp everything in those videos because you've barely been introduced and XCeleste puts everything together outside of the music videos, like the notes & webtoons, which can get confusing for a introduction into the BTS Universe. The video I'm recommending is simpler so it's a good way to get introduced before you dive head first into it all. But just know it's from 5 years ago and doesn't contain every single thing, ex: the webtoon series, which is integral to the storyline that adds a lot of context and info that we didn't know about from the mv's, is not included in this video. It's just a simpler intro.
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Awesome thanks we’ll check it out
THE IQ OF RM IS 148. THAT IS A GENIUS MAN FR!!
Amazing 🤩
Girl = friend
I see
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I Need You Girl 🗝 I Need You Friend 😔
Thanks