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- Even if our kiwi athletes don't get to wear medals round their necks at the Olympics, they'll still be wearing a precious Ngai Tahu taonga. they're the first to lawfully wear authenticated Tahutahi/Snowflake pounamu since Ngai Tahu took ownership of the resource 15 years ago. but Ngai Tahu's warning no one else has the right to have this most rare of pounamu and the iwi's reclaiming the resource which it says was stolen from them.
Who are you to use the pakeha court system to return pounamu that you can then go and resell? This is for financial gain. Those tohu were made from confiscated pounamu, you could at least have sold the man non-confiscated pounamu...where's your people's brains at??? Financial gain, that's where it's at. Aue!
Its about money not mana
true that.
Yup, I'm a Euro decent guy with Maori friends...and they gifted me pounamu, this woman gonna take what was given as a gift of friendship? Granted I am not going to sell my mere or my toki, and when I carve my own hei tiki I sure won't be selling that either. Mana is in the intent, not who owns the stone to resell for profit.
wolfie83 I think that excludes you bro
@@wolfie83 Why is a white guy speaking about mana? I'm confused.
Is mana...an actual thing, outside of display, and power dynamics? Or...I think it is. All due and again, all due respect to Maori....but, where Maori Maori, before outsiders came? Colonize the colonized, with land-based culture. Not city people. City people, with little lived expiriece or connection to whenua, are ...a problem.
He goes off about people from the city and yet he can't even pronounce the word Mere 😳
so basically confiscate pounamu and only approve sales i fngai tahu get money back? lol..you dont own the land..the land owns us..we belong to the land.
***** i agree brother..I am a maori..it just goes against everything what I think being Maori stands for.these people are hypocrites.one love
EO !!!!! Aloha e, I am noelani. We are who we were....they will never understand. I am an Hawaiian wahinetoa, and this makes my pu'uwai so sore😢. It is the same piko that binds us, that pain at the thought of your suffering even in this instance., it is the same pain that resonates in us brownies, as warrior as we are.. Aloha nuinui from Taua'i, much love to u and the protection of the MA'ORI people, ponaumu and Autearoa. I give my solid word, 'olelo pa'a, not to partake in the purchase of ponaumu, real or otherwise, further, I call for a boycott on the illegal and non cultural harvesting and pro$titution and sale of this spiritual and very binding, MA'OLI, authentic, stone of Autearoa and a kuleana of the MA'ORI PEOPLE who are it's rightful guardians.. I do however remain as an Polynesian respectful and may obtain, one day, a ponaumu with true Alo of hā from the keepers. Alohā Mai, mālama pono and, ku'e, stand in resistance always to that which seeks to remove our very mark from these sacred places from which we are so fortunate to come. We must keep the telling of the story so it will be correct, and pono. AUTEAROA KEEP RISING ❤️💛💚 NOELANI MAKA MAHUKA, RESPECTFUL SUBJECT OF THE HAWAIIAN KINGDOM NATION AND DESCENDANT OF TAAMEAMEA III, KING KAUIKEAUOULI. A HUI HOU
Crying all the way to the bank
I'm crying right to the bank with this hahaha ha ha ha hahahaha
Haha what load of Maori bull crap
What allot of nonsense! owning stone naturally found is a joke. Seriously get over yourselves!..............money money money.......thats all. Woman crying like somehow she knows all the rocks personally its ridiculous.
Agreed 💯, It's ridiculously over the top
Greed,
U have a price on it, to sell it degrades the mana of the stone itself. Pounamu must be given as a gift. Until u take the price away from it it has no real value to a real maori.
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This is an authentic statement. I know from our own Hawaiian culture, and being a Polynesian dancer, we no like their paper money. It is far better to to have such Na Hulu, such Treasures bestowed on us by a tupuna, or to have a night dreams and the to find it or myriad ways the Mana, divine supernatural, ordains it to be yours. Much alohā.
Please excuse my ignorance maybe ive watched too many under the rug rabbithole programming but south island maori really do look middle eastern or persian in decent compared to most north island maori …i just find it interesting
🤣 that's what you get when you mix Polynesians and Europeans.
South Westland is in the Rohe of Waitaha, Kati Mamoe.
The Tribal boundary goes from Big Bay on the west coast through to Oamaru and has never been nullified, which means that it is still active.
If Bevan can whakapapa to south Westland then he does have a right to that resource, NOT ngai tahu.
Do you grow the Pounamu Greenstone no I don't think so lmfao.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ngai Tahu didn't exist before the treaty settlement claims. Im just going to sit in here see what information I can garner.
They can sit on a big pile of their own pounamu and feel all holier than thou if they want. It's just a pile of rocks if nothing can be done with it. I'd import it too.
A Jamaican showed me in Venice Beach California how to tell the difference between Pounamu and the jade,, He wrapped a human hair around my stone and put a flame under it ,,the hair didn't burn or melt instantly as one would expect it to,,, saying that's the mana in the Pounamu I was in awe,,,,,,,, I don't like the way the Chinese are using traditional maori designs and mass producing them in nasty cheap jade.
Waitaiki is from the North Island and she was turned to pounamu by Poutini so the resource has links to other tribes Ngai Tahu. I think if you find anything along rivers or beaches that you can carry by youself you can take it but no more than u can carry
Mr Gedge is making me watch this for class.
you have no right to dictate paunamu possession. how dare you.
Hey you want Pounamu, we fighting for our Whenua, that's more important than your piece of rock, really........
we had to watch this in class. got to admit tho, its interesting.
How come Ngai Tahu own the pounamu and not " Waitaha " wasn't WAITAHA the first nation of N.Z ??
Because there is no evidence for that. People just claim it but with no evidence or proof. Ngai Tahu can trace and prove their geneology to the areas that pounamu is sourced
fein fein fein, how bout you get a job job job
jeff i think is actually waitaha.from easter island
If someting is so important to your people you dont sell it at all. Saying we can sell it but nobody else can proves its not important to you
I think it’s great idea to define authenticity of the greenstone for people who respect the origin of pounamu, if they aren’t selling it 3 times over the market price for the same quality of craftsmanship (sometimes lower)
The idea was good, but too bad it turned out to be profit driven
So taihoa!!,we can't buy authentic pounamu at all!!,aue
There's no mana there sorry bout it no mana at all y bekoz those rocks don't belong to any one that's fuckn rediculouse str8 up and this is coming from a Maori I am Maori ko Te whanau o Tuwhakairiora
jymal the stone would have been left there fine had u hua not gone near it.pakeha should not be speaking of mana at all
So I grew up with maori, they gifted me pounamu carved FOR ME...mana is a force that flows, it isn't racist. You wanna call us all pakeha, whatever, but I'll fight anyone that tries to take my pounamu.
@@wolfie83 pakeha.
@@wolfie83 typical white person comment.
No tears
Been told many times, by many different people, this stone will always find its way home
The intent of this pounamu being exclusive to Ngai Tahu shows a limitation. Unfortunately it will be a dying art of you do not create a Wananga Pounamu. The rock is powerless without the conductor. Your role in this Taronga Tuku Iho is to pass on the knowledge. Knowledge not shared is not knowledge.
Your the man bevan climo much respect brother
Grr is this why I was getting spiritually attacked for that pounamu i didnt fucking take...
Sounds like a bitta bullshit to be honest
This is bullshit.... The stone there carving is well beyond jade or greenstone... What south island ponamu reps is the fact there is a spirit inside there.. And to be able to take that spirit inside the form of a necklace or any sort of jewellery should be blessed otherwise karma comes
its a rock....why you crying over rock or wood? Nothing is more important than our saviour Jesus Christ
It's more then a rock.
Plenty is more important...
yes, but that doesn't mean you aren't allowed to value things in life
Did Maori have stonework, dry rockwall/stonewall, and stone temple like Hawaii, Tahiti, Tonga, Cook Island, Fiji, Samoa, Mirconesia, Palau, Guam, Marshall Island and Mariana Island? LIKE 'Tahiti Marae' and Heiau? Maori have great wooden architecture, palisade wall, totem, fort/pa, good art, coloring and carving. any stonework, stone temple in built by Maori? or any Maori city or settlement complex with stonewall, stone temple like Heiau/stone marae, with maori wood architecture building, farm and garden?
What is your point that has something to do with the video?
born kiwi should have the same rights as other races here green my colour .this country getting to be a joke
He said plastic Maori but who's the one who can't even pronounce Maori words properly stupid clown
They do have the same rights? were talking land ownership here, by your logic i can go to any farm and take an animal because we should have the right to take from the environment
Wow pretty devisive, right.
What perplexes me most is Edwards are of Mangatangi up north I did like the blue and white polka dot scarf though suits you well.
sovereign sun as in Ngati Tamaoho?
So what happens if you have been gifted a tahutahi taonga?
Keep and enjoy.
Agreed, keep and enjoy...I was gifted a mere and toki, plus a rough stone from the river to carve my own hei tiki. I will not give up a gift given freely.
My name is literally Pounamu Crofts Bennett and im apart of Ngai Tahu in Christchurch tf lmfao
Mauri Ora Bevan
Alot of Pakeha were selling that stolen Taonga to over sea's markets.
I don't think kiwi's settled in NZ long enough ago to have a mystic connection with a rock I mean 700 years ain't that long ago,but it's worth money so any claim on it is a good one
put in back in the sea !!
It comes from the mountains
Bring the Tahutahi home!!!
All about the$$$$
Why the tears?
Give it back