Ernie Ball MusicMan DarkRay Full Demo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- The Ernie Ball Music Man Darkray is an unprecedented collaboration between Ernie Ball and Darkglass Electronics that puts the tone and character of two Darkglass drive circuits in the onboard electronics of the mighty Stingray Special.
The DarkRay has all the appointments of the Stingray Special and adds a preamp custom designed by the brains behind some of the most layered and iconic sounds of modern bass. This would be newsworthy on its own, but the Darkray goes a step further by adding two selectable drive circuits to the onboard preamp.
People. There are. Two drive pedals. In this bass.
The unmistakable American punch of the Stingray pairs outstandingly with a drive circuit, so the good folks over at Darkglass Electronics lifted the Alpha and Omega drives from their standout Alpha Omega series and dropped them into the sleek physique of the Stingray.
Stop reading this and listen to this thing.
Strings: D'addario NYXL
Preamp: Noble Bass Pre
Cables: Mogami
Lav Mic: problematic
Would have loved Cliff to see what Cliff B would have made of this bass. Great playing aswell Amos I wish you did instructional video’s
Man I Would love to see Justin Chancellor playing this thing
Your playing was outstanding. Video and sound quality top shelf. Subbed. EB & Darkglass together makes for a cool bass. Without seeming like a gimmick.
I love Amos videos. Great video quality, humour, playing, and throwing in a cheeky RATM riff? Killer!
Thanks so much!
Tim is awesome.
You can hear the Flea Tone in there. It's also nice that you can hear that big bass tone under the effects.
Yeah it still cuts! The blend knob is helpful that way too. Most of the sounds I gravitate towards are fully saturated but it does the “light dirt” thing too
Unbelievable intro. Subbed
Same. Such cool layering
And I love the reverse echo emulation with the volume knob
Best demo so far for this badass DarkRay, impressive.
This review is absolutely stellar! Great playing.
Thank you!
Omg!!!Ben stiller on bass!!!!!
What a fantastic demo and screen images. Instant sub.
Heck yeah. Thanks!
Great vid! Music Man is killing it lately. Quality over quantity will always win guitar world!
OMG the know your enemy tone was surprisingly close! sounded fantastic, thanks heaps for this amos
Thanks! Yeah pretty close right??
I'm loosing my mind watching this and I want this bass so bad!
I'm kinda freaking out.
I want it!
Just watched this again mate! Easily on of the best demo’s I’ve seen. Audio, visual, and how it’s put together!
I clicked the video for the bass, I stayed (and subscribed) for that intro.
Thank you!
Great demo. It’s not for me but I appreciate the knob level chart and overall presentation.
Nice crunchy sounds. Your settings graphics at the bottom of the screen were helpful.
Thanks. Glad they helped! Took a while...
This is exciting. There’s been gimmicky attempts at something like this, but nothing from the powerhouse brands. Hope this thing sells a few billion units.
I was skeptical at first. But it does the Thing. And a few other Things.
That's a pretty sweet looking and sounding Stingray!! I dig your playing too! Thanks for a great review also, visuals help a lot! I was thinking through the whole video, man, I'd like to hear some Timmy C come out of that thing. I was pretty excited you played a little piece for us at the end, sounded killer!!
I’m not going to leave you hanging like that!
Thank You Amos!! Called my dudes @ernieball & I can’t say enough about this Monster: A Lethal Weapon..
that red setting sounds incredible in every application
Very nice! I’ve been looking at standard stingray specials, but this is a cool collaboration.
Would love to see a video someday where you do a “rig rundown” and talk about/play your personal basses. Thanks for all the great content 👍
Joe dart needs one for more versatility. Love all your videos sir
Killer bass and great playing! A StingRay is already on steroids and now they've added more!!!
The lily could stand some guilding after all
Really great review Man! Amazing bass
VERY cool! I'll have to play one at NAMM this year and maybe make the purchase.
Definatly buying a couple of these bad boys.
This thing is totally badass, thanks for making the demo!
Thanks!
That sounds great! Love Darkglass.
Wow, sounds amazing, great riffs as usual.
Thanks!
This is one of the reasons I need to stay away from Amos Heller's demo vids, he's so good at them and makes everything sound so great, that I'm all like "I need to take a serious look at this thing", even though I have zero desire for another StingRay-esque bass. This thing sounds pretty good, and the on-screen graphics were awesome! Unfortunately, I gotta keep watching his demos, they're just so good. DARN YOU, AMOS HELLER, AND YOUR EXCELLENT DEMO VIDS!! ;-)
I accept the blame! I’m so sorry! 😜
Delicious.
Can't wait to get one.
Thanks, i love your musical style, good overview, not long winded, not too short, again like your style, many thanks!
great bass and great playing....
No slap in a Stingray review? In the Middle Ages they set people on fire for this kind of heresy.
I can’t believe I let that slip thru.
@@AmosHeller just a joke tho. Instant subscriber
Thank god for small miracles.
We have slap at home.
😂
Damn that bass is a freaking beast!😮
I need a 5 string version of this
There is one now
As soon as I started watching this I was thinking to myself "Has Tim Comerford felt a disturbance in the force?".
Later in the video, the planets seemed to align themselves 😆 guess what one of the main reasons for me playing a Stingray is?
Great video, let's hope I can find enough pennies down the back of the sofa to purchase one of these mentalist noise generators. Thanks my friend, new subscriber incoming 👍
Glad to have you! And yes-I simply could not let a vid about a driven Ray go by without daring the lawyers at RageCo to come after me. Which they still might?
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the kind words and the sub!
This is what we all needed in life
Man they really slapped together the peanut butter and the jelly on this one. Amazing
Peanut butter, jelly and totally bananas on a Ritz, baby!!! 😎 🕢 crazy 🐉
Thanks for the awesome review.
Este es el mejor demo de esa colaboración entre Ernie Ball y Darkglass... Lastima que no le colocaste opción de subtítulos
I’ll try to address that in the future! Thank you for mentioning it.
Excellent review!
I've bought an old OLP 5 string and was planning on taking an Ibanez bass distortion pedal and installing into the OLP, and boom Musicman bring this beauty out.
Nice ! I want to try this
Great demo video! You just got a new subscriber, and I just got a new bass! My new Obsidian black DarkRay is being shipped from Sherman Oaks, CA today. I’m beyond excited!
Woo! Welcome to the team! Everyone say hi to Jerry!
You digging your DarkRay? I'm seriously considering making the DarkRay my first Stingray ever... which may be nuts on my part. LOL
This is pretty damn cool
Tim Commerford tone right there.
I would play the heck out of that, in fact that would be a dream bass for me if only they didn't leave out a mid knob. and honestly, on a bass, I would take a mid knob over the other two, as mids are extremely important for being heard in a mix. I wonder if they intended for the distortion to be what helps you cut through. I would really like to hear this in a live setting.
Revisiting this video because I got my hands on one. It rocks. Must...add....to....quiver!
Thank you for this video.
dude your videos are great and you play super well too! subscriber 961!
Awesome review 🤘🏼
Are the active eq’s still available when the Darkglass circuits are bypassed? Great demo, thanks.
Yes. The “first” position of the selector switch (light off) is clean but with the EQ still active.
The problem with putting onboard drive is that it puts it first in your effects chain which isn't usually where you want fuzz and overdrive. It's fun, but I don't see this catching on.
It’s not for everyone, and there are situations where a pedal is a better solution. As I said in the video, if you rock a dirty tone all night and don’t need a clean line this could stand in for a pedalboard altogether. I found it to be a lot of fun, and it made me realize how much of a chore reaching down to tweak pedal settings can be.
We need a 5string version of it!
Yes! I actually emailed Ernie Ball with that suggestion (with a 35-inch scale) . You should do it too - they might make a 5-string version if enough people are interested.
@@PhilosophicalCat yes 35” I kno the released one now but not black, so black 25” string through with classic bridge 🤘
Very cool option for people who hate pedalboards :)
The only thing that is lacking is an option to blend fuzz and distortion like on alpha-omicron pedal for example
Yeah-it’s one or the other here. I like them both but when I use AO drives I tend to like them in the middle.
This is a cool concept. If i had won the lottery id get one. I'll settle for just picking up an alpha/omega darkglass pedal for $300
Also a viable option!
AO’s are so good
Great video, I really like the tone with subtle grit added. I’m wondering though, is there much of a reason to buy this bass over a regular ray with a 3 band and a dark glass pedal?
Good question. It depends! As I said in the vid, if you get a gritty sound and use it all night, this might let you skip the pedalboard. OR have on-hand drive options to fill out a variety of sounds.
The sculpting ability is limited-drive and blend aren’t a TON of control over a drive sound, and there is no mid control. Like anything, I guess it depends how you want to use it.
Good point, especially because a lot of people (me included) like to put a compressor in front of distortion/overdrive pedals, especially in recording scenarios . I really dig the DarkRay, but I’ll stick to my classic sting
Thanks Amos, very interesting.
Awesome sound 👌
Shared on our website!
Thank you!
AWESOME!!
Love the demo!
Great review! Love that Darkglass tone. Now if I could only come up with $2.700 dollars.
How long of a waiting list for this one omg 😳 totally getting this !!!
I NEED a 5-string model!!!
Christmas🎅 is coming jack, maybe if I'm a really good boy a shiny new MusicMan DarkRay 5string bass will be in my stocking?😎🌈🎄
Send them an email - I did a few months ago and they responded. Maybe if enough people express interest in it, they'll make a 5-string version
The darkray 5 is out now
Only wish they would have kept a the 3 band could have had a stack knob it’s so cool they worked with musicman, “ my favorite bass company “ they could have easily went with the Dingwall again, there’s nothing like a stingray special! I’ve owned 4 and still have two can’t have enough of them!! GET ONE! Lol
Joe Dart needs one for more versatility. Love your videos Amos
After this intro i bought a bass
No way! Hope you enjoy!
Settings at 7:40 doing RATM riff please? That sounded fantastic
04:50 is amazing!!
I need this bass. Period. I also need the 2500 bucks to buy it sooooo... sounds AWESOME! Love this bass!
That intro needs to be a song
Thanks!
Great video as always, Amos. If the bass sounded like my B7K, I would dig it. To me, Stingrays need a jazz neck pickup. Lows are in the wrong sonic spot for me.
I heard Geddy Lee tried Stingrays according to one of his bass techs Russ Ryan (joined Rush in the later years of touring) which he said they're good but wasn't enough to impress him, probably because of personal preference and it reminded him of his Wal I guess, might have sounded thin to him since he was still looking for his own tone, he's more into the Rickenbacker neck sound he was after switching to his 1972 Fender Jazz bass and his Tech21 gear helped him to emulate that.
Imagine someone gave him this instead, especially with that distortion setting! The setting to my ears is kinda close to his Tech21 gear particularly the YYZ pedal with those distortion settings!
$3,000? Thats ridiculous
Aye! Lovely
What's the Meguiars product on the amp at about 2:10? Y'all using that to get fingerprints off for the b-roll?
Cliff Burton approves
Anastasia (Pulling Teeth) \m/
I like to think he would
This would be a great bass for doing Muse songs I presume
Agreed!
My dream revision to this bass: neck humbucker and a second clean preset with a mid cut for slap
Awesome…….but why not have the headstock in black to match the body? Or some figured roasted maple for the neck? I guess it’s just a matter of opinion…I may order one of these babies for my collection!! Thanks for the video, I subscribed…
So the blend is dry and wet, but you can’t blend the alpha with the omega?
That’s right.
Great video. I have a Stingray and an Alpha Omicron, so really have no need for this bass ... although as I'm watching this demo, I can literally feel the money floating out of my bank account.
Ha! I know what you mean. We’re way beyond “need” out here...
game changer
Amos, what would you think about someone getting this as their first Stingray? I love distortion/fuzz on bass, but I worry I'd miss that good ol' mid knob.
I mean, I know that a Stringray Special is a different beast than the "classic" Stingray, anyway, but I'm guessing the Special gets one closer to that Stingray sound than the DarkRay...?
Thanks for such an amazing video and review!
Get the mid knob
That’s what I did! 😃
The concept is interesting and you got some sweet tones out of it but how easy to activate / deactivate the tone? I have a Stingray 5 special and love it. And yea, the tuners are great and being lighter there's no neck dive really. The downside I see on this one though... With an onboard pedal, I can't disgust my guitar player with another pedal on my board that he calls "an abomination" lol. I add pedals to it just to stress him out haha.
Btw... I really dig your reviews. Good usable info and tasty licks to go with it. I picked up the Alpha Omega Ultra and Microtubes X pedals based on your reviews. It was good to hear them in other styles other than driving rock or metal. They deliver today. Can't wait to add them to the "Abomination" haha.
It’s honesty harder to do quick switches than having a pedal (for obvious reasons). But the switch is easy to grab and has solid movement.
But yeah, you can’t horrify guitar players with it as easily. Big downside. :)
Glad you like the reviews And thanks for stopping by!
Hi! Do u think the dark ray is a good bass in order to play new wave style of Music? Joy Division or Interpol genre?
Can probably pull off Do I Do tone pretty good!
Ooh good call
I want this thing. But I already have an AOU. maybe I just go get stingray
Niceeeeeeeeeeeee
Whats the difference from a sterling darkray besides American made and the price?
How do u not have more subs, what
One at a time!
Is a DarkRay 5 strings planned ?
Not that I know of?
ok it's cool but limited to 100 worldwide ................ But really cool video good work !!! ^^
Thank you! And yeah I just saw that too! Well I hope this video is helpful to 100 lucky people.
@@AmosHeller I say wrong things about it... It's just the gray color that are limited but the black one are not
Good to know!
5:04 🤯
Nice bass but I'm curious if they will sell the electronics separately, or at least a scaled down version with the drive knob.
I've emailed ernie ball on that and, no.
@@josh_ari Sad
Great bass...will I have to sell my car just to get one?
Damn!!! can I buy the record?!!
Looks like a huge dink at 2:22, big ooof!
Aaaand my money is gone.