I agree with Jays opener- Eliot was a very purposeful, deeply religious writer and his books his poems were christian purposed - and paradoxical - he grapples and appeals to me for that reason. If one is not grappling with the spiritual then one cant fully buy into Eliot. In contrast, I just read John Berrymans Dream Songs which i found pining on my bookshelf. He was not a spiritual man. Berryman' was bereft, he had only his talent, he wrote about his lovers, his friends and his depression. That was about it. It wasnt enough.
I agree with Jays opener- Eliot was a very purposeful, deeply religious writer and his books his poems were christian purposed - and paradoxical - he grapples and appeals to me for that reason. If one is not grappling with the spiritual then one cant fully buy into Eliot.
In contrast, I just read John Berrymans Dream Songs which i found pining on my bookshelf. He was not a spiritual man. Berryman' was bereft, he had only his talent, he wrote about his lovers, his friends and his depression. That was about it. It wasnt enough.
beautiful
Thank youuu Sir Sobraaa
Good talk
Totally disagree about P’s comment on the worst line of poetry being from The Windhover
TSE would say to Prof. Parini: Go back, go back, to Aristotle.
Too many digressions! I wish he would focus on the poem itself. Just too general comment. Not enlightening at all.
Nice talk; too much harping on fundamentalism; TSE would hold to dogma as a liberation; too critical of Fr. Hopkins.
Jesus had no pretensions? That's pretty obtuse.
Sheer lunacy.