If it hasn't already been mentioned you should try your G425 set in the +1° loft and flat setting. The extra loft would give you a bit higher trajectory and the flat setting would help tame the over draw flight you're producing
I have done that to both my G425 Max 5wood and 7 wood. As well my Mizuno hot metals were ordered in with 2 degrees more loft and 2 degrees flatter to suit my swing. Works for me.
I switched from a 3 wood to a 4 wood several years ago and added a 7 wood to the bag. Have also struggled with hooking the ball and found that I needed to go to a heavier shaft with lower torque and a stiffer tip. Added a Cobra LTDx 3 wood lofted up to 16.5 paired with a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S shaft this year and it is the best I’ve ever had, especially off the turf. The “4” wood is my 225-235 Yard club and the 7 wood is my 205-215 yard club.
Damn you’re frickin wacking those things lol. My 3 wood is about 210-220, but it’s also 13 degrees because it was my dad’s from when he swung crazy fast and wanted it to stay low. When I’ve tried a normal 3 wood it’s been around 225-240. My 4 and 3 iron bridge the gap because I personally don’t like hybrids, or 5 woods.
Hi Gabe. I went from a 3 wood to the 3HL and am extremely happy now. I too was topping and pulling my 3W. Now with the few degrees more loft, seem to hit it way better. Sure about 10 yrds shorter, but in the air and on the fairway. I also went from ping to callaway. Both are very forgiving and that's what I need these days.
I pulled the 3 wood several years ago. Same as you I just "lost it" off the deck. Sneaks back in now again for brief appearances but the consistency just hasn't returned. Golf will always be a game of misses. And once the confidence in a club isn't there the misses tend to be bad. With the hybrids and utility (17* Pursuit DRX) my misses tend to be more on the "good" side. Generally a miss hit that comes up short as opposed to directionally challenged in places I'd rather not be. Losing a few yards as opposed to collecting strokes is a trade off I've come to live with.
I always liked woods, but I was fitted for a modern Titleist 3 wood, which was fine off the tee, but I topped maybe 1 or 2 times out of 5 off the fairway, so I barely used it except a few tee shots, maybe once or twice a round. As I age, I've lost speed and distance, and need some punch off the fairway more than my hybrid. So I took my 4I out, and put in my old Callaway Big Bertha 5 wood, and I love hitting it off the deck, so I added a few yards over my Hybrid, and I can hit some high/low/fade shot shapes, choke down on it hit it 140-150 if I want, it's been really useful, hit it maybe 10 times a round, takes a lot of pressure off my mid irons. Got me thinking, maybe I should pull my 3 wood and replace it with my old Callaway 3 wood. I hit it great off the deck, rarely miss-hit, and it's fine off the tee. So my point is that the shape and setup of the club seems to matter to me, the old callaway fairway woods are nice and flat on the bottom with a sharp leading edge, I'm thinking that maybe the center of gravity on the old wood are a bit lower, more suitable for hitting off the deck compared to the modern Titleist which is better set up for higher swing speeds and forgivingness off the tee...
When you first use a 5wd, you can get the ball going Left - one of the reasons is that when you look down and see more loft than you're used to seeing, you can for whatever reason get into a closed-face position - I've seen it many times. You currently place your trail right foot significantly inside your left - this is making for a substantial in-to-out path - while you might need/like this with your driver, I would significantly reduce it for 3&5 woods.
Thanks mate that was awesome. For a while, I played a 17 degree 4-wood & a game improvement 3-iron (19-degree). It worked quite well for me, until my ballstriking & clubspeed improved a lot; both of them ballooned out on me. I now carry a 15 degree 3 wood and a 19 degree hybrid (Cleveland launcher), which is by far the easiest club to hit off the tee, out of the rough & from the fairway; I thoroughly recommend that club!
Older video I know but I only carry two clubs that aren't going to be hit from the fairway. The driver and the putter. Everything else has to do double duty or it can't be in the bag. I learned a long time ago that if the driver wasn't working off the tee the three wood wasn't going to either and I'm way too much of a sweeper to consistently hit a 3 wood off the fairway. So I went to a 5 wood and never wanted for a 3 wood again. Eventually as designers made fairway woods launch higher I went to a 4 wood at 17 degrees versus 18 degrees with roughly the same length shaft as my old 5 wood and the combo of new school launch angle and spin gave me about 15 more yards consistently without getting me in trouble. I tried a more modern 3 wood but even the best tech gurus could not make one where my swing and the 3 wood could ever be friends. 17 degrees and 42" of length off the deck is my distance and consistency sweet spot. And that's the way I judge any long club. What can I do with it off the ground first and then the tee shot is just gravy.
I purchased a new PXG Gen 5 Driver and 4 wood. Took out my older Callaway 3 wood since I could never hit it with any confidence or get it off the ground with any height. I'm very happy with the 4 wood as it is adjustable, easy to hit and very forgiving. Just ordered the PXG 7 wood to go in the bag and replace the 4 hybrid!
I've done a lot of experimenting with fairway woods, and for me a high lofted 3 wood is the sweet spot. I'm currently playing a Ping G425 SFT at 16° and it is my go-to safety club.
I had issues swinging a 3w, so I picked up a 5w and it was heaven sent for me. My favorite club. Since my swing has improved, I bought a new 3w to keep in my bag along with the 5w. Gapping still works out, too.
I really like my stealth 3w but it’s the High launch version so 16.5*. I can hit it off the deck usually pretty well even as a mid 16ish handicap. Callaway does do a HL version of the rougest 3w. Should be something that would be fun to see to try.
I was going to recommend the same thing and with an adjustable club, could be lifted a bit more. Getting the right foot up on the target line might help lessen the heavy draw… Really appreciate the energy in this vid- must be the sweater weather.
I have two 7 woods now. One goes high about 170 yds. and the other goes low and will run out to about 190-210 depending if I turn it over or cut it. I am 68 and have an awful time getting 3 or 5 wood off the deck. If you investigate, you will see that 5, 7, or 9 wood have same length shaft, so loft is only difference. Also each company may have different loft for 4-9 wood and the number on bottom will vary. Just use what works for you.
I play a 5wood. I love it. 200+ yards off the tee and pretty much in play. I'm curious to see you hit the 3 hybrid vs the 5. Off the tee might not be such a big deal but off the deck the 3hy might shine.
Gabe, based on the distances that you got with that 5-wood, something seems "off". I play a 4-wood (16.5* loft set to 15.75*) and a 7-wood (21* loft set to 20*), and my average distances are about 230 to 240 yards with the 4-wood and 200-210 yards with the 7-wood. I own a few 5-woods (most are 18* loft, but one is 19*), and I generally get more than 225 yards with the 5-woods when I play them. I would expect you to get at least 225 and probably closer to 230 yards with a properly-fitted 5-wood, based on the distances that you say you hit your driver and that you used to hit your 3-wood before you lost confidence in it. I am actually a proponent of playing a 4-wood (1/2" to 3/4" shorter shaft than used in the 3-wood, and 16* to 17.5* loft) and staying away from a 3-wood for virtually all but the lowest-handicap, highest clubhead speed golfers.
I swapped out my 3 wood for a 5 wood last year. I love my 5 wood...can't hit it as far (I can carry it around 215 - 220 and can get 230 - 240 rollout off the tee ) but I have much more control with it. My 3 wood I was just too inconsistent. Now after getting used to he 5 wood...took me a bit but what I found off the tee...tee it low...almost like an iron because its meant to hit down on it. I found tee'ing it up a bit it did fly really high...after playing around with tee height, tee it low and what a difference it made in distance, control and shape.
My problem exactly, but maybe because of different reason. My issue with 3 wood is reducing swing speed with age. The ball just does not fly high enough and carry distance is reduced by lack of air time. I tried a 5 W and yes it went higher, but I lost more distance than I want to give up. I put a longer shaft in the 5W 43-44inch but lost control ( left misses). The total distance was not enough gap between my 7 wood and the 5 Wood, and I controlled the 7 wood better. Exit the 5 Wood and I adjusted the 3W to 16 degrees and settled to use it off the tee only, or if I wanted a low running fairway shot. I do find that a fade shape shot spins higher and stays in the air longer. My next experiment is to use an older Cleveland 3 Wood FL 17 degree/ HT ( less weight in the head and shaft= more swing speed, maybe more distance) . If that doesn't work well, I am considering trying a Cleveland Hi-wood 3+ to get a club that goes higher and stays in play ( distance should be 5 wood equivalent) / easier to hit more often.
As I said in the last video, replaced my 3 with a 5 and really hot some great shots now and the addition of the 7 wood guves me some great options on the fairways. Don't even need a hybrid now. Btw, the draw may be the offset or the lie. You should be able to drop the loft down as well to get more distance.
@@LetsPlayThru you might need to consider changing to a lighter or slightly shorter shaft or different kick point than you have been playing. You can go lighter without going softer.
Simple solution. Crank that Ping 3 wood up a degree or so and turn it into a 4 wood. Think many of us have had similar issues w/ground interaction w/a standard 3 wood, so Found the next best option for me being a Taylormade Stealth 3 HL @ 16.5 degrees. Don't really lose much distance off the tea and alot easier of the deck. Could be answer to your problem.
when I went to Ping last year I needed to fill gap B/T driver & 4hybrid, i assumed it was 3 wood... well... after 10 hits w 3wood and 5 wood I only lost 10 yards w 5wood BUT contact was 100% higher w 5wood. so now I have G410 5wood set at up to 16.5 which is about a 4wood with a 5 wood shorter shaft, a win win...its my 220-230 gap! driver at 260, 5wood at 225, 4hybrid at 195.... may add a 3hybrid for 210.... (PS if I need 225 - 240 like a dog leg, I do a 2" choke down, tee down, 3/4 stinger w driver, it is my biggest sweet spot so I use it when able)
Great video Gabe! I had same issue I dealt with this pass summer as I do not hit my 3 wood consistent off the deck, but 5 woods left to big of a gap….long story short, after trading in my old 3 wood and hitting every 3 wood out there, what did wonders for my game in fall season and confidence was tsr2 3 wood lofted up from 15 to 15.5 degrees….hit my best 3 wood of my life off the deck last round of season and have confidence off deck and tee with it and have the distance I want consistently
Thank you! Btw, how do you like the mizuno golf ball you are playing compared to others? Or are you going to be doing a separate video on the ball in the future?
I don’t know about others but I find lofting a club up seems to work better than going down. I would loft up on the 3w rather than down on the 5w. It has to do with lie angle. Take the g425 from 14.5 to 16 and see if that works better. The g425 sits flatter to begin with than the Callaway. I play a g425 at 16 4W and play a 7w I changed the shafts out on both to the Evenflow blue stiff and tipped the 3w 1/2 inch and the 7w 1” works perfect
I carry both use the 3 wood off the tee or on long par 5s.. and the distance between the 2 is about 10-15 yards. I use a 7 wood as well for those greens I want to stick... Good videos
It seem like a 4 Wood could help and trying different brands in a shop would help, too. It is often not the club/brand you expect which is the best fit. Once in a while even a good player as you can improve from training lessons, give it a try.
i was thinking four wood myself. I remember having one as a teen (albeit because it was given to me and I didn't have anything else) and it seemed to be the best of both worlds. As for distance I would have thought you would have been a bit longer with the five wood than that. I have an ancient (I mean TM 200 Steel) five wood and I get similar distances that you do with the Rogue. Honestly that doesn't make sense. You average about 10 yards longer than me with most of your clubs so I expected about 215 on average with the fiver. So maybe it is just a case of getting used to the club. Or maybe it isn't the right five wood. I wonder if a 425 or 430 five wood might be a choice.
Subscribed…I love my ping G400 3wood 14.5* and hit it 200 plus yards and just picked up the 5 wood Ping 400. I’m a beginner golf who is just obsessed with hitting a ball, then chasing it at every hole I come to😂
This year put my 3W 15 degree back in the bag. Solely as the 7w rogue makes 230yards so the 5w was out. No question they can be topped quickly. 3w liked to be hit hard too.
I tried the Rogue St Max and they were nothing but hook machines for me I see that you are drawing that club quite a bit in your video you might be better off with a ping g425 Max 5 wood you can also tweak The Loft with that club a little bit make it like a four wood I have an adjustable Cobra 3 wood but I have it set to 16° on the adjustable hosel I get about 225 to 235 and I hit my driver about the same distance as you around 250 to 270 so I play my three wood more like a four wood seems to work for me just sharing my thoughts
Thinking about replacing both the 3 and the 5 wood with a 4 wood. Really struggling with the 3 and the 5 doesn't quite go as far as I need it to. I think a modern 4 wood design could replace both of them. Both are at least 10 if not 15 years old. I'm actually thinking about the Maltby Direct to Consumer line. Maltby quality is always very good and you can't beat their pricing. Brand new 4 wood with stock graphite shaft is $85, so it would not be an expensive experiment although it is a fixed hosel, so no adjustments. Big Brand pricing is ridiculous.
High handicapper here - have done similar experiments - found out I need to keep the Driver 3 Wood and 5 Wood in bag ! Losing Driver is too much of an ask! What I found best practice was to be absolutely ruthless in your club selection for each hole off the tee! Wide open = Driver Wide with few hazards = 3 Wood Narrow and tricky = 5 Wood Off the deck different story :NEVER the 3 wood ever ! 5 wood always or my 4 hybrid - never 3 Wood off the deck - I hit a totally bad shot or a great strike that goes forever then into the ditch forest lake swamp!! I practice my second shot as it my most important shot - go 5?wood or hybrid ! There is a case for high handicap golfers losing their 3 Woods and working real hard on their Driver - and adding a really reliable second shot club !
Look into the Taylormade SIM2 5 wood. It is adjustable 2 degrees. So you can go down from 19 degrees to 17 degrees. It has the V-Steel on the bottom of the sole to get the ball up in the air. You got to check it out. Too bad that Rogue wasn’t adjustable though.
You might want to take a look at the Callaway Apex UW. I have one and it's by far my favorite and go to club. The shorter shaft makes it easy to hit off the tee or the deck and it goes a long way and straight. I'm of similar age and swing speed as you and I average 225 with the 19* UW
I was going to recommend the same thing; great club! I just got a 21 degree UW and hit it on a GC Quad 200 carry/213 total. I would think the 17 or 19 degree would work great for Gabe.
G425 5 wood 17.5*, perhaps opened to 16.5* to reduce the draw, maybe consider shortening the shaft and adding a heavier weight to keep your SW. You could even try a shorter shaft in the 3 wood.
I carry 3,5,7 W and 6H . I am not long 220 drive so I need these clubs for second shots. 7 W definitely the easiest to hit , it’s called 7 heaven for a reason. If you can hit that 170 happy days. 3W v 5W is always distance versus accuracy. I would have both make sure they are as best suited to your swing as possible (I have Tour Edge E722) for 3W. Then choose the club depending on how much room you have to miss. Better to be 30 yds shorter on the fairway than in the jungle! The shaft is key because of the length and loft of the club mishits are exaggerated so test lots of clubs and shafts.
Gabe...put a little extra lead tape at the back of that 3 wood. If you have extra weights for the ping...add just another gram or two. Try it...made a big difference for my 3 wood.
I hit a 3 hybrid specifically because of this. It’s my safety blanket for when woods aren’t working. It hits about the same as my 5 wood. But I usually go back to the 3 wood after a round or two at the range. If you go 3 hybrid, save some money. Hunt down a adams 3 hybrid on eBay. I have the a012. But I was seeing a Adam’s speed line 3 hybrid for like $29, Pristine looking.
I went for a 3 wood fitting earlier this year. I found it too unreliable. Tried a 5 wood and love it. Dispersion is great either off the ‘T’ or the deck. I rarely get it over 200 yds, but you can’t have everything
@@mejustanormalguy4742 they’re great. By far my most consistent club in the bag. I misspoke earlier, it isn’t an adams speedline I saw for 29. It’s a super S in 3hy.
Gabe, you don't need two clubs that do basically the same thing, which is your hybrid and this 5 wood. You don't hit the 5 wood far enough, plus the Rogue has some built in draw bias, which you don't need. My thought would be to try a 16.5 degree fairway wood, which should be easier to hit than your Ping 14.5 degree fairway wood and 10-15 yards more distance than the Callaway 5 wood. I would suggest the Titleist TSR3 model, which allows you to adjust the loft and lie to get the flight you want.
Ditched the 3 wood several years ago & haven't looked back. Easier to hit the 5 wood more consistently, better launch & more accurate. Most recreational golfers lack the necessary club head speed to hit a 3 wood properly. For me the 3 & 5 wood went virtually the same distance so it made the 3 wood a redundant club.
Try the Callaway Super hybrid 16 *. I adjusted the loft to 18 with the aerotech shaft and getting 225 - 235 basically losing only 5-10 yards from the TM 3 wood. Found it in the used rack @ $200 ,easy to hit and it’s still in the bag
considered replacing the 3 w/a 5 wood - was a no go. the 3 is much longer, especially off the tee. my bag is now 3, 5, 7 wood. instead of replacing the 3 w/the 5, I just added the 5 wood and dropped my 4 iron as it is similar in distance to the 5 iron.
The G425 has a hosel adjustments for loft (±1.5°) and lie angle. Have you considered that as a possibility? Great thing about Curated is they allow you to use the club and return it if you are not satisfied with your purchases within 14 days.
Don’t know that it’s a good idea to swap a club because of a swing problem, probably better to fix the swing problem if it’s ongoing. However I do understand the thought about your gapping on that course. I just recently added a TM mini driver to my bag for two reasons. It is super easy to hit straight and relatively long. I have days when I struggle with my driver for whatever reason and having a fairway finder that is in the neighborhood of my driver is great. Second, I hit it off the tee better than my 3 wood for holes that need a 240’ish yard well placed tee shot. Like a few others mentioned already, my 3 wood is adjustable and I’ve tweaked it to 16.5* to gap better between my Driver, mini and 7 wood. So far it’s working, but more time will tell. I have a few spare clubs that can be added and subtracted from my bag if I’m playing certain courses with problematic holes like you have in this video example.
It appeared to me that you were teeing the fairway woods a bit to high but it could be the camera? I use that Rouge 5 wood and absolutely love it! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇲
Gabe I recently did the same thing. My 5 wood is only two yards shorter then my 3 wood because it has the tour ad shaft in it which is a stellar fit. I have also found throughout my entire bag that loft is my friend. I struggle getting the ball airborne so more loft makes that easier and my shots tend to hold the green all the way up to my 5 wood. That being said, every player is different maybe a 3 is a better option for you or maybe a shaft that fits your swing a smidge better. Either way…good video and cool experiment! 😎
4 wood could be a Goldilocks club for you Gabe. Callaway (3HL) and Titleist make them. Not sure about others. Around that 16.5 to 17 degrees loft. Actually it’s a pity the Callaway doesn’t have an adjustable neck, cos with that draw, if you could take the loft down, it would open the club face a little and not just improve the distance, but also straighten the ball flight a bit.
I was thinking about doing this but was talking to my friend(coach) pga pro and he had already pasted down a ventus blue 6.0 velcro on my Driver and have added 20 to 30 yards. I have the same year and make of 3 wood head so we talked about it and instead of new 5 wood put a matching shaft in a 7.0 and I have not gained 20 to 30 hahah I have added about 10 to 15 yards but it is alot more consistent off tee and fairways. I have a 3 20deg super hybrid from Callaway great out of sand rough and punching out of wood when need be my favorite club is a 7 wood that I fix alot more comfortably from the fairways then the Hybrid ...now the main gap problem is I hit my 7 iron 150 155 Carry I hit my 6 iron 155 carry 5 iron 4 iron about 100 yards on the ground so I'm looking to practice my ass off and get the 6 as comfortable as I am with 7 and lower if that doesn't help I have talked to my friend about testing a 9 wood and Dhy stealth in 5 iron the 160 to 185 gap is killing me I hit 7 I'm short I hit my 7 wood I'm long I'm happy that this is the last gap issue I seem to have but as my Driver and 3 wood have gotten better this year I hit more 175 180 shots then I used to when my Driver was 25 yards shorter if anyone has any thing to help please feel free but my mortal teacher if you see this please please help hahaha
Looking at your ball flight with both clubs, it appears that maybe you should concentrate on working on that hook before deciding which club is right for you. I have a slight draw but find my Mizuno 5 hybrid gives me slightly more draw if I am not careful.
Have you ever considered choking down a couple of inches on your driver and taking a 2/3 to 3/4 swing? It will go as far as 3 or 5 wood from the tee and has a much bigger face so the chance hitting a decent shot is much better. Then pick a fairway you can hit off the deck and don’t worry about hitting anything but driver on par 4s and par 5s. The consistency of strike with a choked down less than full swing driver will amaze you!
I had to give up my three wood Gabe. In competition golf l just couldn't trust it from the deck. I tried the 16.5, four wood Stealth, but again from the deck it wasn't happening. I have the Stealth five wood and love it. I play off 4, and it goes an average 215 yards. If you bit driver well, don't get too hung up on distance, but then again it's what makes you comfortable?
Great video, Gabe. The Rogue Max fairway woods are pretty draw-biased, which accounts for some of the lefties. The LS is more neutral, but also lower spin, and with your closed stance and very in-to-out delivery, I'm worried you'd just hit low knuckley dippers. They'd roll forever, though. Well, they'd roll forever in Ireland...probably not so much in Florida! Maybe just try out some other brands. Fairway woods are extremely personal - even more so than putters and irons. My numbers are pretty close to yours through the bag - I'm just a tad slower - and I've found that 4-wood, 16º-17º, is kind of the sweet spot for me. Flight is plenty high enough but still gets roll when I need it (....I mean... I always need the roll, really). And basically the same distance as my 3-wood off the turf (probably a bit more), which is almost exclusively where I'll use it. I prefer to take a little off driver in the rare instances where I'm worried I'll "hit it too far" off a tee. And I'm not going for many par-5s in two, just bashing my second shot down there as far as I can. So my requirements for a fairway wood are fairly modest. 😄
Most golfers need to carry a three wood and a five wood, unless you hit the driver at least 250. Unless you are such a good golfer that you regularly shoot in the mid 70s or below, use the three wood only when you CAN reach the green with a well hit three wood. If you can’t reach the green, hit the five wood for the more consistent and straighter shot that it is a little more likely to produce, vs the harder to hit three wood.
i only buy adjustable woods as my swing does change, especially with the LIE aspect (Driver) fairway woods adjusted for a higher flight on soft courses, links lower flight (more run). WIN-WIN.
Why not keep both? Maybe turn 3 wood up to 15.5 or 16 which will close the face a bit and keep the 5 wood at 18-19. Do you have room in bag for both? I am doing a similar experiment with the Ping G425 SFT 3 wood and 5 wood. Turned the 16 up to 17.5 and the 19 down to 17.5 and tried them both out at a scramble yesterday. Hit the 3 wood better due to closed face and the 5 wood worse due to open face. Think I may keep both and go 3 wood at 17 and then 5 wood at 20. Best of both worlds but I have room for both since I go 5 iron-U wedge.
I’d be willing to bet a stealth plus 5w playing at 18* or TSR2 16.5 is going to be a better fit. Hotter clubs that are less draw biased. This is why you gotta get fit. Hopefully curated will take that Callaway back. The 4w or 5w is the right club choice. The rogue at max is just not a good fit for you. It’s not a particularly hot face and quite a bit draw biased. And with the glued hosel - you can’t open the face/lower loft to get what you need.
What made you pick wood over hybrid? I had a lot of the consistency and distance you are looking for with my mavrik 4HB at 230ish (stock) to 250 (if if I full swing). I have zero issues with tight lies and ruff with plenty of height.
I’m half way through the video and you asked for comments, here’s mine. I’m one of those casual golfers who doesn’t use their driver much because of exactly what you said, when you miss, it’s OB. I primarily use my 3 wood with good results. I hit it around 250 which I’m happy with. Therefore for me, a 5 wood is def out of the question simply because potentially losing 20+ yards is out of the question regardless if the 5 wood is a little more accurate.
I had a similar situation with my 3 wood so tried a 5 and gave up to much distance, someone suggested putting a 5 wood shaft in my 3 wood and I now have the perfect club.
Have not watched this video yet, but when I watched your other video ordering from Curated the new 5w, I was like, I hope his change goes better than mine...lol I bought a older used ADAMS 5w and replaced because I kept topping my 3w that came out of know where over a short period of time. After 3 rounds I went back to the 3w and had to build my confidence back with it. Luckily I didn't have much $ in the 5w and was able to sell it pretty quick. Hope you have better luck with yours!! Still love the videos you put out.
With your flat swing and draw bias, I’d adjust loft of 5 wood to 16-17 degrees. Should give you a little more distance and straighten the draw a bit. I’m a 6 cap…not a pro but a constant tinkerer with clubs and lofts.
Another thing to think about is the weather. It looked like it was a colder than normal day. If my memory is correct, and it's going with age, I seem to recall that you will lose distance in colder weather. Just a thought.
Easy to talk yourself out of the 3 wood, but in reality, it's giving you probably 20 yards more than the 5 wood. In a wide open par 5 fairway, I would sure like to have the 3 wood. I'd keep it in the bag! In comparison, I got my 5 wood 200-210 and my 3 wood 215-240. Not giving up on either of them!
If I could I would play all 3,5,&7 woods in my bag . But play mostly with the 5&7 woods in the bag just because it would take away my 54° wedge. But who knows maybe I can play with a 50° gap wedge and 58° lob wedge and make it work.
I know you're looking for height and distance, but could a 2 driving/utility iron give you what you're looking for? You did seem to enjoy your new 3 iron. Could also look at a mini driver. Though might have the same issue of not enough spin and stopping power. Either way, adjusting your 3 wood couldn't hurt to try either.
If it hasn't already been mentioned you should try your G425 set in the +1° loft and flat setting. The extra loft would give you a bit higher trajectory and the flat setting would help tame the over draw flight you're producing
yes that’s a good idea
I have done that to both my G425 Max 5wood and 7 wood. As well my Mizuno hot metals were ordered in with 2 degrees more loft and 2 degrees flatter to suit my swing. Works for me.
I switched from a 3 wood to a 4 wood several years ago and added a 7 wood to the bag. Have also struggled with hooking the ball and found that I needed to go to a heavier shaft with lower torque and a stiffer tip. Added a Cobra LTDx 3 wood lofted up to 16.5 paired with a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S shaft this year and it is the best I’ve ever had, especially off the turf. The “4” wood is my 225-235 Yard club and the 7 wood is my 205-215 yard club.
Damn you’re frickin wacking those things lol. My 3 wood is about 210-220, but it’s also 13 degrees because it was my dad’s from when he swung crazy fast and wanted it to stay low. When I’ve tried a normal 3 wood it’s been around 225-240. My 4 and 3 iron bridge the gap because I personally don’t like hybrids, or 5 woods.
I would have to recommend lofting it down to a 4 wood. Should help straighten it up as well. (No expert here that's just what I would do)
Not adjustable.
U should try callaway 3 wood
gotta loft the three up to a four
Hi Gabe. I went from a 3 wood to the 3HL and am extremely happy now. I too was topping and pulling my 3W. Now with the few degrees more loft, seem to hit it way better. Sure about 10 yrds shorter, but in the air and on the fairway. I also went from ping to callaway. Both are very forgiving and that's what I need these days.
I pulled the 3 wood several years ago. Same as you I just "lost it" off the deck. Sneaks back in now again for brief appearances but the consistency just hasn't returned. Golf will always be a game of misses. And once the confidence in a club isn't there the misses tend to be bad. With the hybrids and utility (17* Pursuit DRX) my misses tend to be more on the "good" side. Generally a miss hit that comes up short as opposed to directionally challenged in places I'd rather not be. Losing a few yards as opposed to collecting strokes is a trade off I've come to live with.
Brief appearances, I like that! 😃
I always liked woods, but I was fitted for a modern Titleist 3 wood, which was fine off the tee, but I topped maybe 1 or 2 times out of 5 off the fairway, so I barely used it except a few tee shots, maybe once or twice a round. As I age, I've lost speed and distance, and need some punch off the fairway more than my hybrid. So I took my 4I out, and put in my old Callaway Big Bertha 5 wood, and I love hitting it off the deck, so I added a few yards over my Hybrid, and I can hit some high/low/fade shot shapes, choke down on it hit it 140-150 if I want, it's been really useful, hit it maybe 10 times a round, takes a lot of pressure off my mid irons. Got me thinking, maybe I should pull my 3 wood and replace it with my old Callaway 3 wood. I hit it great off the deck, rarely miss-hit, and it's fine off the tee. So my point is that the shape and setup of the club seems to matter to me, the old callaway fairway woods are nice and flat on the bottom with a sharp leading edge, I'm thinking that maybe the center of gravity on the old wood are a bit lower, more suitable for hitting off the deck compared to the modern Titleist which is better set up for higher swing speeds and forgivingness off the tee...
When you first use a 5wd, you can get the ball going Left - one of the reasons is that when you look down and see more loft than you're used to seeing, you can for whatever reason get into a closed-face position - I've seen it many times. You currently place your trail right foot significantly inside your left - this is making for a substantial in-to-out path - while you might need/like this with your driver, I would significantly reduce it for 3&5 woods.
Good call, thank you
Thanks mate that was awesome.
For a while, I played a 17 degree 4-wood & a game improvement 3-iron (19-degree). It worked quite well for me, until my ballstriking & clubspeed improved a lot; both of them ballooned out on me.
I now carry a 15 degree 3 wood and a 19 degree hybrid (Cleveland launcher), which is by far the easiest club to hit off the tee, out of the rough & from the fairway; I thoroughly recommend that club!
Older video I know but I only carry two clubs that aren't going to be hit from the fairway. The driver and the putter. Everything else has to do double duty or it can't be in the bag. I learned a long time ago that if the driver wasn't working off the tee the three wood wasn't going to either and I'm way too much of a sweeper to consistently hit a 3 wood off the fairway. So I went to a 5 wood and never wanted for a 3 wood again. Eventually as designers made fairway woods launch higher I went to a 4 wood at 17 degrees versus 18 degrees with roughly the same length shaft as my old 5 wood and the combo of new school launch angle and spin gave me about 15 more yards consistently without getting me in trouble. I tried a more modern 3 wood but even the best tech gurus could not make one where my swing and the 3 wood could ever be friends. 17 degrees and 42" of length off the deck is my distance and consistency sweet spot. And that's the way I judge any long club. What can I do with it off the ground first and then the tee shot is just gravy.
I purchased a new PXG Gen 5 Driver and 4 wood. Took out my older Callaway 3 wood since I could never hit it with any confidence or get it off the ground with any height. I'm very happy with the 4 wood as it is adjustable, easy to hit and very forgiving. Just ordered the PXG 7 wood to go in the bag and replace the 4 hybrid!
Love PXG as well! Currently game the Gen4 0811x driver, 5 wood and 3 hybrid
I've done a lot of experimenting with fairway woods, and for me a high lofted 3 wood is the sweet spot. I'm currently playing a Ping G425 SFT at 16° and it is my go-to safety club.
I may try dialing my 3 wood up a degree or so, thanks for the suggestion
I had issues swinging a 3w, so I picked up a 5w and it was heaven sent for me. My favorite club. Since my swing has improved, I bought a new 3w to keep in my bag along with the 5w. Gapping still works out, too.
I really like my stealth 3w but it’s the High launch version so 16.5*. I can hit it off the deck usually pretty well even as a mid 16ish handicap. Callaway does do a HL version of the rougest 3w. Should be something that would be fun to see to try.
4-wood is definitely the way to go. Or a high launch 3W. Both are 16.5 degrees.
I think that could be the ticket 🙏
I was going to recommend the same thing and with an adjustable club, could be lifted a bit more. Getting the right foot up on the target line might help lessen the heavy draw…
Really appreciate the energy in this vid- must be the sweater weather.
I have two 7 woods now. One goes high about 170 yds. and the other goes low and will run out to about 190-210 depending if I turn it over or cut it. I am 68 and have an awful time getting 3 or 5 wood off the deck. If you investigate, you will see that 5, 7, or 9 wood have same length shaft, so loft is only difference. Also each company may have different loft for 4-9 wood and the number on bottom will vary. Just use what works for you.
Really instructive. I would sacrifice the 15 yards for more consistency and potentially lower scores. I’ve been considering the 5W.
I play a 5wood. I love it. 200+ yards off the tee and pretty much in play. I'm curious to see you hit the 3 hybrid vs the 5. Off the tee might not be such a big deal but off the deck the 3hy might shine.
Topping, no confidence getting it up in the air consistently, those are my problems too - nice video!
Gabe, based on the distances that you got with that 5-wood, something seems "off". I play a 4-wood (16.5* loft set to 15.75*) and a 7-wood (21* loft set to 20*), and my average distances are about 230 to 240 yards with the 4-wood and 200-210 yards with the 7-wood. I own a few 5-woods (most are 18* loft, but one is 19*), and I generally get more than 225 yards with the 5-woods when I play them. I would expect you to get at least 225 and probably closer to 230 yards with a properly-fitted 5-wood, based on the distances that you say you hit your driver and that you used to hit your 3-wood before you lost confidence in it. I am actually a proponent of playing a 4-wood (1/2" to 3/4" shorter shaft than used in the 3-wood, and 16* to 17.5* loft) and staying away from a 3-wood for virtually all but the lowest-handicap, highest clubhead speed golfers.
I swapped out my 3 wood for a 5 wood last year. I love my 5 wood...can't hit it as far (I can carry it around 215 - 220 and can get 230 - 240 rollout off the tee ) but I have much more control with it. My 3 wood I was just too inconsistent. Now after getting used to he 5 wood...took me a bit but what I found off the tee...tee it low...almost like an iron because its meant to hit down on it. I found tee'ing it up a bit it did fly really high...after playing around with tee height, tee it low and what a difference it made in distance, control and shape.
My problem exactly, but maybe because of different reason. My issue with 3 wood is reducing swing speed with age. The ball just does not fly high enough and carry distance is reduced by lack of air time. I tried a 5 W and yes it went higher, but I lost more distance than I want to give up. I put a longer shaft in the 5W 43-44inch but lost control ( left misses). The total distance was not enough gap between my 7 wood and the 5 Wood, and I controlled the 7 wood better. Exit the 5 Wood and I adjusted the 3W to 16 degrees and settled to use it off the tee only, or if I wanted a low running fairway shot. I do find that a fade shape shot spins higher and stays in the air longer. My next experiment is to use an older Cleveland 3 Wood FL 17 degree/ HT ( less weight in the head and shaft= more swing speed, maybe more distance) . If that doesn't work well, I am considering trying a Cleveland Hi-wood 3+ to get a club that goes higher and stays in play ( distance should be 5 wood equivalent) / easier to hit more often.
Now you know you’re not the only work in progress 😃
As I said in the last video, replaced my 3 with a 5 and really hot some great shots now and the addition of the 7 wood guves me some great options on the fairways. Don't even need a hybrid now.
Btw, the draw may be the offset or the lie. You should be able to drop the loft down as well to get more distance.
I think you’re right. I’m a bit bummed this Rogue isn’t very adjustable. So I may need to switch brands.
@@LetsPlayThru you might need to consider changing to a lighter or slightly shorter shaft or different kick point than you have been playing. You can go lighter without going softer.
Simple solution. Crank that Ping 3 wood up a degree or so and turn it into a 4 wood. Think many of us have had similar issues w/ground interaction w/a standard 3 wood, so Found the next best option for me being a Taylormade Stealth 3 HL @ 16.5 degrees. Don't really lose much distance off the tea and alot easier of the deck. Could be answer to your problem.
when I went to Ping last year I needed to fill gap B/T driver & 4hybrid, i assumed it was 3 wood... well... after 10 hits w 3wood and 5 wood I only lost 10 yards w 5wood BUT contact was 100% higher w 5wood. so now I have G410 5wood set at up to 16.5 which is about a 4wood with a 5 wood shorter shaft, a win win...its my 220-230 gap! driver at 260, 5wood at 225, 4hybrid at 195.... may add a 3hybrid for 210.... (PS if I need 225 - 240 like a dog leg, I do a 2" choke down, tee down, 3/4 stinger w driver, it is my biggest sweet spot so I use it when able)
Great video Gabe! I had same issue I dealt with this pass summer as I do not hit my 3 wood consistent off the deck, but 5 woods left to big of a gap….long story short, after trading in my old 3 wood and hitting every 3 wood out there, what did wonders for my game in fall season and confidence was tsr2 3 wood lofted up from 15 to 15.5 degrees….hit my best 3 wood of my life off the deck last round of season and have confidence off deck and tee with it and have the distance I want consistently
That is awesome to hear, congrats!
Thank you! Btw, how do you like the mizuno golf ball you are playing compared to others? Or are you going to be doing a separate video on the ball in the future?
I don’t know about others but I find lofting a club up seems to work better than going down. I would loft up on the 3w rather than down on the 5w. It has to do with lie angle. Take the g425 from 14.5 to 16 and see if that works better. The g425 sits flatter to begin with than the Callaway. I play a g425 at 16 4W and play a 7w I changed the shafts out on both to the Evenflow blue stiff and tipped the 3w 1/2 inch and the 7w 1” works perfect
Ping 425 SFT 4 wood. Great option!
Thanks for your honesty, good video
I carry both use the 3 wood off the tee or on long par 5s.. and the distance between the 2 is about 10-15 yards. I use a 7 wood as well for those greens I want to stick... Good videos
It seem like a 4 Wood could help and trying different brands in a shop would help, too. It is often not the club/brand you expect which is the best fit. Once in a while even a good player as you can improve from training lessons, give it a try.
i was thinking four wood myself. I remember having one as a teen (albeit because it was given to me and I didn't have anything else) and it seemed to be the best of both worlds. As for distance I would have thought you would have been a bit longer with the five wood than that. I have an ancient (I mean TM 200 Steel) five wood and I get similar distances that you do with the Rogue. Honestly that doesn't make sense. You average about 10 yards longer than me with most of your clubs so I expected about 215 on average with the fiver. So maybe it is just a case of getting used to the club. Or maybe it isn't the right five wood. I wonder if a 425 or 430 five wood might be a choice.
Subscribed…I love my ping G400 3wood 14.5* and hit it 200 plus yards and just picked up the 5 wood Ping 400. I’m a beginner golf who is just obsessed with hitting a ball, then chasing it at every hole I come to😂
This year put my 3W 15 degree back in the bag. Solely as the 7w rogue makes 230yards so the 5w was out. No question they can be topped quickly. 3w liked to be hit hard too.
I tried the Rogue St Max and they were nothing but hook machines for me I see that you are drawing that club quite a bit in your video you might be better off with a ping g425 Max 5 wood you can also tweak The Loft with that club a little bit make it like a four wood I have an adjustable Cobra 3 wood but I have it set to 16° on the adjustable hosel I get about 225 to 235 and I hit my driver about the same distance as you around 250 to 270 so I play my three wood more like a four wood seems to work for me just sharing my thoughts
Thinking about replacing both the 3 and the 5 wood with a 4 wood. Really struggling with the 3 and the 5 doesn't quite go as far as I need it to. I think a modern 4 wood design could replace both of them. Both are at least 10 if not 15 years old. I'm actually thinking about the Maltby Direct to Consumer line. Maltby quality is always very good and you can't beat their pricing. Brand new 4 wood with stock graphite shaft is $85, so it would not be an expensive experiment although it is a fixed hosel, so no adjustments. Big Brand pricing is ridiculous.
High handicapper here - have done similar experiments - found out I need to keep the Driver 3 Wood and 5 Wood in bag !
Losing Driver is too much of an ask! What I found best practice was to be absolutely ruthless in your club selection for each hole off the tee!
Wide open = Driver
Wide with few hazards = 3 Wood
Narrow and tricky = 5 Wood
Off the deck different story :NEVER the 3 wood ever !
5 wood always or my 4 hybrid - never 3 Wood off the deck - I hit a totally bad shot or a great strike that goes forever then into the ditch forest lake swamp!!
I practice my second shot as it my most important shot - go 5?wood or hybrid !
There is a case for high handicap golfers losing their 3 Woods and working real hard on their Driver - and adding a really reliable second shot club !
Look into the Taylormade SIM2 5 wood. It is adjustable 2 degrees. So you can go down from 19 degrees to 17 degrees. It has the V-Steel on the bottom of the sole to get the ball up in the air. You got to check it out. Too bad that Rogue wasn’t adjustable though.
You might want to take a look at the Callaway Apex UW. I have one and it's by far my favorite and go to club. The shorter shaft makes it easy to hit off the tee or the deck and it goes a long way and straight. I'm of similar age and swing speed as you and I average 225 with the 19* UW
I was going to recommend the same thing; great club! I just got a 21 degree UW and hit it on a GC Quad 200 carry/213 total. I would think the 17 or 19 degree would work great for Gabe.
G425 5 wood 17.5*, perhaps opened to 16.5* to reduce the draw, maybe consider shortening the shaft and adding a heavier weight to keep your SW. You could even try a shorter shaft in the 3 wood.
I carry 3,5,7 W and 6H . I am not long 220 drive so I need these clubs for second shots. 7 W definitely the easiest to hit , it’s called 7 heaven for a reason. If you can hit that 170 happy days. 3W v 5W is always distance versus accuracy. I would have both make sure they are as best suited to your swing as possible (I have Tour Edge E722) for 3W. Then choose the club depending on how much room you have to miss. Better to be 30 yds shorter on the fairway than in the jungle! The shaft is key because of the length and loft of the club mishits are exaggerated so test lots of clubs and shafts.
Gabe...put a little extra lead tape at the back of that 3 wood. If you have extra weights for the ping...add just another gram or two. Try it...made a big difference for my 3 wood.
Thanks for the suggestion, I may just try it
I hit a 3 hybrid specifically because of this.
It’s my safety blanket for when woods aren’t working. It hits about the same as my 5 wood.
But I usually go back to the 3 wood after a round or two at the range.
If you go 3 hybrid, save some money. Hunt down a adams 3 hybrid on eBay. I have the a012. But I was seeing a Adam’s speed line 3 hybrid for like $29, Pristine looking.
I agree with this the Adams hybrid is arguably the best hybrid. in fact Taylor made never changed the design .
I went for a 3 wood fitting earlier this year. I found it too unreliable. Tried a 5 wood and love it. Dispersion is great either off the ‘T’ or the deck. I rarely get it over 200 yds, but you can’t have everything
@@mejustanormalguy4742 they’re great. By far my most consistent club in the bag.
I misspoke earlier, it isn’t an adams speedline I saw for 29. It’s a super S in 3hy.
Gabe, you don't need two clubs that do basically the same thing, which is your hybrid and this 5 wood. You don't hit the 5 wood far enough, plus the Rogue has some built in draw bias, which you don't need. My thought would be to try a 16.5 degree fairway wood, which should be easier to hit than your Ping 14.5 degree fairway wood and 10-15 yards more distance than the Callaway 5 wood. I would suggest the Titleist TSR3 model, which allows you to adjust the loft and lie to get the flight you want.
Yes I did lose the 3H as well, switched to a 3 driving iron. I like the idea of 16.5 for sure
Ditched the 3 wood several years ago & haven't looked back. Easier to hit the 5 wood more consistently, better launch & more accurate. Most recreational golfers lack the necessary club head speed to hit a 3 wood properly. For me the 3 & 5 wood went virtually the same distance so it made the 3 wood a redundant club.
Try the Callaway Super hybrid 16 *. I adjusted the loft to 18 with the aerotech shaft and getting 225 - 235 basically losing only 5-10 yards from the TM 3 wood. Found it in the used rack @ $200 ,easy to hit and it’s still in the bag
considered replacing the 3 w/a 5 wood - was a no go. the 3 is much longer, especially off the tee. my bag is now 3, 5, 7 wood. instead of replacing the 3 w/the 5, I just added the 5 wood and dropped my 4 iron as it is similar in distance to the 5 iron.
The G425 has a hosel adjustments for loft (±1.5°) and lie angle. Have you considered that as a possibility? Great thing about Curated is they allow you to use the club and return it if you are not satisfied with your purchases within 14 days.
Yeah that’s the nice thing I’ve got a couple weeks to see if I can dial it in 🙌
Don’t know that it’s a good idea to swap a club because of a swing problem, probably better to fix the swing problem if it’s ongoing. However I do understand the thought about your gapping on that course. I just recently added a TM mini driver to my bag for two reasons. It is super easy to hit straight and relatively long. I have days when I struggle with my driver for whatever reason and having a fairway finder that is in the neighborhood of my driver is great. Second, I hit it off the tee better than my 3 wood for holes that need a 240’ish yard well placed tee shot.
Like a few others mentioned already, my 3 wood is adjustable and I’ve tweaked it to 16.5* to gap better between my Driver, mini and 7 wood. So far it’s working, but more time will tell.
I have a few spare clubs that can be added and subtracted from my bag if I’m playing certain courses with problematic holes like you have in this video example.
It appeared to me that you were teeing the fairway woods a bit to high but it could be the camera?
I use that Rouge 5 wood and absolutely love it! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇲
Gabe I recently did the same thing. My 5 wood is only two yards shorter then my 3 wood because it has the tour ad shaft in it which is a stellar fit. I have also found throughout my entire bag that loft is my friend. I struggle getting the ball airborne so more loft makes that easier and my shots tend to hold the green all the way up to my 5 wood.
That being said, every player is different maybe a 3 is a better option for you or maybe a shaft that fits your swing a smidge better. Either way…good video and cool experiment! 😎
Well said Ryan. I like your setup. We will hopefully get this figured out soon 🤞
4 wood could be a Goldilocks club for you Gabe. Callaway (3HL) and Titleist make them. Not sure about others. Around that 16.5 to 17 degrees loft. Actually it’s a pity the Callaway doesn’t have an adjustable neck, cos with that draw, if you could take the loft down, it would open the club face a little and not just improve the distance, but also straighten the ball flight a bit.
I was thinking about doing this but was talking to my friend(coach) pga pro and he had already pasted down a ventus blue 6.0 velcro on my Driver and have added 20 to 30 yards. I have the same year and make of 3 wood head so we talked about it and instead of new 5 wood put a matching shaft in a 7.0 and I have not gained 20 to 30 hahah I have added about 10 to 15 yards but it is alot more consistent off tee and fairways. I have a 3 20deg super hybrid from Callaway great out of sand rough and punching out of wood when need be my favorite club is a 7 wood that I fix alot more comfortably from the fairways then the Hybrid ...now the main gap problem is I hit my 7 iron 150 155 Carry I hit my 6 iron 155 carry 5 iron 4 iron about 100 yards on the ground so I'm looking to practice my ass off and get the 6 as comfortable as I am with 7 and lower if that doesn't help I have talked to my friend about testing a 9 wood and Dhy stealth in 5 iron the 160 to 185 gap is killing me I hit 7 I'm short I hit my 7 wood I'm long I'm happy that this is the last gap issue I seem to have but as my Driver and 3 wood have gotten better this year I hit more 175 180 shots then I used to when my Driver was 25 yards shorter if anyone has any thing to help please feel free but my mortal teacher if you see this please please help hahaha
Sounds like a cool solution
what do you use to measure the distances of your shots? Is it an app on your phone?
I went to the Callaway Rogue Max 3HL (16.5 deg.) basically a 4 wood and really helped getting the ball off the turf.
Or get a 3 wood HL at 16.5 degrees. Easy to hit !
Looking at your ball flight with both clubs, it appears that maybe you should concentrate on working on that hook before deciding which club is right for you. I have a slight draw but find my Mizuno 5 hybrid gives me slightly more draw if I am not careful.
Have you ever considered choking down a couple of inches on your driver and taking a 2/3 to 3/4 swing? It will go as far as 3 or 5 wood from the tee and has a much bigger face so the chance hitting a decent shot is much better. Then pick a fairway you can hit off the deck and don’t worry about hitting anything but driver on par 4s and par 5s. The consistency of strike with a choked down less than full swing driver will amaze you!
That Callaway Rogue ST fw are terrible. I bought the 3 wood and it was 20 yard shorter against my old Callaway XR 3 wood.
I had to give up my three wood Gabe. In competition golf l just couldn't trust it from the deck. I tried the 16.5, four wood Stealth, but again from the deck it wasn't happening. I have the Stealth five wood and love it. I play off 4, and it goes an average 215 yards. If you bit driver well, don't get too hung up on distance, but then again it's what makes you comfortable?
It sounds like you are describing me exactly 🤣
I use my 3 wood off the tee mainly, then I have a Cobra F6 Baffler 4/5 fairway wood? (small head short shaft) for most long fairway shots.
If hitting off deck is the primary problem, why aren’t you hitting those shots on the video?
Oops…sent this before video finished.
Great video, Gabe. The Rogue Max fairway woods are pretty draw-biased, which accounts for some of the lefties. The LS is more neutral, but also lower spin, and with your closed stance and very in-to-out delivery, I'm worried you'd just hit low knuckley dippers. They'd roll forever, though. Well, they'd roll forever in Ireland...probably not so much in Florida! Maybe just try out some other brands. Fairway woods are extremely personal - even more so than putters and irons.
My numbers are pretty close to yours through the bag - I'm just a tad slower - and I've found that 4-wood, 16º-17º, is kind of the sweet spot for me. Flight is plenty high enough but still gets roll when I need it (....I mean... I always need the roll, really). And basically the same distance as my 3-wood off the turf (probably a bit more), which is almost exclusively where I'll use it. I prefer to take a little off driver in the rare instances where I'm worried I'll "hit it too far" off a tee. And I'm not going for many par-5s in two, just bashing my second shot down there as far as I can. So my requirements for a fairway wood are fairly modest. 😄
Well said Daniel. I def want to try something in the 16.5° range next. Might even crank up the 3 wood to see if that works better.
Most golfers need to carry a three wood and a five wood, unless you hit the driver at least 250. Unless you are such a good golfer that you regularly shoot in the mid 70s or below, use the three wood only when you CAN reach the green with a well hit three wood. If you can’t reach the green, hit the five wood for the more consistent and straighter shot that it is a little more likely to produce, vs the harder to hit three wood.
I’m looking at woods right now. I really like the looks of the new tsr2 4 wood and 7 wood. But I may wait a little closer to spring and go get fitted
Why don’t you put more loft on your G425 in the flat setting? Or get a 3 HL (16.5 loft) but has 3 wood length shaft.
This thread has convinced me that my search for a 16.5 deg fairway wood is on the right track.
I agree with other comments. Go Driver, 4 wood ,and I use a 7 wood with a 4 wood shaft Great video.
Thanks
i only buy adjustable woods as my swing does change, especially with the LIE aspect (Driver) fairway woods adjusted for a higher flight on soft courses, links lower flight (more run). WIN-WIN.
Why not keep both? Maybe turn 3 wood up to 15.5 or 16 which will close the face a bit and keep the 5 wood at 18-19. Do you have room in bag for both? I am doing a similar experiment with the Ping G425 SFT 3 wood and 5 wood. Turned the 16 up to 17.5 and the 19 down to 17.5 and tried them both out at a scramble yesterday. Hit the 3 wood better due to closed face and the 5 wood worse due to open face. Think I may keep both and go 3 wood at 17 and then 5 wood at 20. Best of both worlds but I have room for both since I go 5 iron-U wedge.
I’d be willing to bet a stealth plus 5w playing at 18* or TSR2 16.5 is going to be a better fit. Hotter clubs that are less draw biased. This is why you gotta get fit. Hopefully curated will take that Callaway back. The 4w or 5w is the right club choice. The rogue at max is just not a good fit for you. It’s not a particularly hot face and quite a bit draw biased. And with the glued hosel - you can’t open the face/lower loft to get what you need.
What made you pick wood over hybrid? I had a lot of the consistency and distance you are looking for with my mavrik 4HB at 230ish (stock) to 250 (if if I full swing). I have zero issues with tight lies and ruff with plenty of height.
I’m half way through the video and you asked for comments, here’s mine. I’m one of those casual golfers who doesn’t use their driver much because of exactly what you said, when you miss, it’s OB. I primarily use my 3 wood with good results. I hit it around 250 which I’m happy with. Therefore for me, a 5 wood is def out of the question simply because potentially losing 20+ yards is out of the question regardless if the 5 wood is a little more accurate.
250 is very solid with a 3 wood!
I was in the same boat as you. I went with a G425 5 wood, lofted down to a 4 wood but I put in a 3 wood shaft. It is $!
Try the Rypstick. It will give you distance and swing speed through the top of your bag
I had a similar situation with my 3 wood so tried a 5 and gave up to much distance, someone suggested putting a 5 wood shaft in my 3 wood and I now have the perfect club.
either try the Titleist TSR2 4 wood or the Stealth 4 wood....both are 16.5 degrees....thats what i am going to do....cheers good luck
Cool vid Gabe.... Would love to see you experiment with a 5w shaft in a 3w head. And see how that goes 4 you. Cheers!
Have not watched this video yet, but when I watched your other video ordering from Curated the new 5w, I was like, I hope his change goes better than mine...lol I bought a older used ADAMS 5w and replaced because I kept topping my 3w that came out of know where over a short period of time. After 3 rounds I went back to the 3w and had to build my confidence back with it. Luckily I didn't have much $ in the 5w and was able to sell it pretty quick. Hope you have better luck with yours!! Still love the videos you put out.
Thanks John, I’m definitely holding onto the 3 wood just in case I need to revert back
Thanks John, I’m definitely holding onto the 3 wood just in case I need to revert back.
I’ve got both the Rogue ST Max 3 and 5 woods and my 3 wood avg is 230 and 5 wood avg is 210. I’m loving the Rogue ST Max line up!!
With your flat swing and draw bias, I’d adjust loft of 5 wood to 16-17 degrees. Should give you a little more distance and straighten the draw a bit. I’m a 6 cap…not a pro but a constant tinkerer with clubs and lofts.
I think you’re spot on, thanks 🙏
WoW I fallen in love with that 5 wood, quick question, a 5wood could be equivalent to a 3 iron or 3 hybrid?
Another thing to think about is the weather.
It looked like it was a colder than normal day.
If my memory is correct, and it's going with age, I seem to recall that you will lose distance in colder weather.
Just a thought.
Great test. Did you try a 4 wood? I had success with a Callaway 4 wood.
The more obvious choice
Not yet, but after today I just may
Hi Gabe. How about the Rogue ST max 3 HL fairway wood. 16.5 degrees of loft.
That’s a great idea
Switched from 3 wood to 4 wood actually gained a few yards plus a lot more consistentcy
Curious how you would do with a Rogue ST Max 3HL which is 16.5 degrees, maybe you’ll get the heigh and distance while still retaining forgiveness
Easy to talk yourself out of the 3 wood, but in reality, it's giving you probably 20 yards more than the 5 wood. In a wide open par 5 fairway, I would sure like to have the 3 wood. I'd keep it in the bag! In comparison, I got my 5 wood 200-210 and my 3 wood 215-240. Not giving up on either of them!
If I could I would play all 3,5,&7 woods in my bag . But play mostly with the 5&7 woods in the bag just because it would take away my 54° wedge. But who knows maybe I can play with a 50° gap wedge and 58° lob wedge and make it work.
Callaway makes good fairway woods. I'm sticking to my epic 3 wood.
16.5 degree 3 wood !!! Absolute miracle club
You should try the Callaway Apex UW 19 degree.
4 wood all the way. Our swings speeds are the same.. I love my 4 wood
Try a 4W or a 3 hybrid, unless you can adjust some more loft into the 3W.
I know you're looking for height and distance, but could a 2 driving/utility iron give you what you're looking for? You did seem to enjoy your new 3 iron. Could also look at a mini driver. Though might have the same issue of not enough spin and stopping power.
Either way, adjusting your 3 wood couldn't hurt to try either.
I would loft up on the ping. Swing looks good to me
Might be a really stupid question but what is the device you are using that you put next to the ball to determine the yardage?
I have a 16 degree Mizuno CLK hybrid dialed down to 14.5 for my 250-240y shots. I highly recommend try one of those.
Anything Mizuno I’ll try 😀
I've been hitting the rad speed 3 wood as well have it set at 16.5 that help me
Have you considered using the 5 wood head on a 3 wood shaft ?
I have seen good results getting the extra yards without giving up consistency.
That’s a great idea
I did the same too with the exact same club
Feel for ya. Been there with 3 wood. Replaced with epic flash 5 wood