General Zod in Man of Steel. He is working to terraform the Earth to be like Kyrpton when it already can sustain him and his army while the sun gives them unlimited powers and abilities.
I just assumed it was a much easier way to kill off humanity. Why go through all the hassle of painstakingly hunting every living human one by one when you can just alter the atmosphere to make the planet uninhabitable for them? The real question is, if he could terraform a planet, why didn't he just go pick an uninhabited planet in the first place?
@@FCastro-wm5yv to recreate the Krypton. He doesn't care about ruling, saving regular humans or being a God. He wants his home back and to save his people - kryptonians in the Codex.
Haven't seen Shang-Chi since it was in theaters, so I could be remembered it wrong, but I assumed he was being mentally manipulated. Just because he was long-lived and experienced, doesn't prevent his mind from being tricked.
With Palpatine, I never understand why he told people ''strike me down so I can posess you'' could have just kept his mouth shut when they probably would.
Maybe there was some unexplained rule where they had to be informed in order for it to work - not that this makes sense either, but it's possible. More likely it's just an inflated ego.
In return of the Jedi he told Luke, Kill Vader then you will take his place as my second in command! Yeah sure, be your slave until you find some other fool that is stronger to replace(Kill) me. Why wouldn't I agree to that idea.
@@themantyf1116 Exactly, she and others would have, guess it was ego - but if he was patient for that long knowng when to keep his mouth shut (him knowing his power) you'd think he would have leanred from last time to ''shhh they'll do it'' even when Kylo Ren was about to strike him he offered him more. Dude was a maniac. He'll be back probably. He needed a Skywalker to strike him down, Kylo was a Skywalker so was Luke, but nope. Then Rey turned up and still... nope. It makes no sense.
Umbrella Corp. itself doesn't make much sense. It's a for profit organization that makes bioweapons, but without governments or buyers, there's no money to receive and much less anywhere to spend it.
Even when I saw Incredibles 2 in theaters I felt the villain's motivations in the movie were backwards. Her father was killed by 2 robbers because he was relying on superheroes to come save him after they had to go into hiding. So, her plan is to get mind controlled superheroes to stage a terrorist attack to keep them in hiding. But at the same time, by doing this she will prevent those heroes from saving the day & more innocent people will get hurt. Plus, if she can mind control people, why not find a way to use her technology to stop criminals & make a profit in city defense programs instead?
Well, using them in defense programs might not work. Her mind control tech is about on par with Mad Hatter's control cards. Take away the cards or the screen goggles and the effect instantly lifts. Now if she used something like Hatter's Worry Men from Batman the Animated Series, it could work since those utilize post hypnotic suggestions while the target is asleep.
It would have made WAY more sense if the "good guy billionaire" (forgot his name) was the Screenslaver. He desperately wanted to bring heroes back so he engineered the plan to slowly bring Elastagirl back into the public eye while at the same time creating a supervillain that she'd have to stop thus proving that supers are needed. Would have made a lot more sense than the sister's plan.
I honestly felt like the Resident Evil movies were all written and directed by different people. Then I learned that the same writer, AND director, worked on every single film. I'm just thinking..."What the hell is going through that guys mind?"
Bane wasn’t the mastermind. The real villain was Talia al Ghul. Bane only reason for anything was because of his loyalty to the league of shadows and his love for Talia. Talia reason was just revenge for her father’s death. Residents evil just had bad writers and certain concepts was retcon.
Surprised that Civil War didn't make the list. Zemo's completely insane plan requires so many things to happen that he has NO control over but had to happen exactly as they do for his ultimate plan to work. It made absolutely no sense.
Uhh what? His plan makes sense just fine, he only needed a few key moments to occur, that's it, the rest of it had nothing to do with him and only with the Sokovia Accords causing the friction between people.
If Captain America had informed Iron Man that Hydra had killed his father before the movie "Civil War" started, then they might not have had the true falling out that occurred in the climax.
I wouldn’t say that his plan made no sense as we know why he did it and what he relied on for it to work but it’s really more as you said: the plan required certain people to act in very specific ways that he had absolutely no control over and he couldn’t have even foreseen. Not so much a nonsensical plan as it was a Batman Gambit
There was a comic called Dark Empire that Rise of Skywalker seemed to derive some of its ideas from (like the Emperor using clone bodies to survive.) I would have preferred to see the World Devistators from the comic instead of the planet killing Star Destroyers. Basically they were mostly automated mobile factories that would suck up the resources of a planet. They could then turn those resources into things like robotic tie fighters, weapons, etc.
You should have included Star Trek: Nemesis. Shinzon, the clone of Jean-luc Picard, after being raised and abandoned by the Romulans, of course, decides to attack Earth...
I don't think there's any evidence to show that the scientist that turned the reactor into a bomb could make it just blow up instantly. I believe the movie clearly shows that the reactor needed its time clock aspect until it degenerated into "going nuclear".
9:15 Dreadful movie. I’ve hated it mostly for this very reason: taking Gotham hostage for months for no apparent reason other than to give Bruce time to heal, which Bane doesn’t even know is happening. He never expected him to return. It was the screenwriters being lazy.
I was watching it wondering: A. How do cops survive in a dark tunnel for months? B. Why doesn't the US government send in a few Marines teams to deal with the baddies? After 3 or 4 weeks I would.
I'm not a fan of ROS but palpatine has never had sensible plans, his plan in the prequels is ridiculously convoluted and only works because the jedi are just idiots, and even though ROTJ is my favourite film in the franchise his plan there isn't that smart either. Plus him constantly having rey threatened and attacked could be to try and push her towards the darkside, so that when she kills his body in anger he can possess her.
Palpatine was mostly winging it rather than having a meticulous, well-thought out plan. His general plan was "become Chancellor, start a galactic size war, culminate power, and wipe out the Jedi".
Disagree, in the prequel it was a plan that worked over a long period of time requiring him slowly gathering power and followers rather than just one big flashy move, which is why it worked. And it was consistent: every movie has Palpatine with more power and influence than how it started (he becomes Canchellor in the first, gets control of an army in the second, destroys the jedi in the third). It also has a Xanatos vibe to it, since he was also the guiding force of the separatists, so if the republic failed to stop them he would have ended up on top anyway. And yeah, RotJ had flaws, but at least in that movie Kylo and Snooke had each their own plan and goal, retconning into them both being Palpatine's plan could have worked as another xanatos' gambit (as you said: if I kill Rey, I win and there are no more Jedi and I reign supreme, if Rey survives she is pushed to the dark side and I can possess her), but it's not how the movie paints it, it's us rewriting it to make sense.
Did you even watch KotM? The plan was to release the Earth native titans. Once Ghidorah was released and they realized he was an alien and started controlling the other titans to take over the planet, Emma realized she made a mistake. It made perfect sense.
In almost every case, the villain's plans actually require everything to go WRONG. At that point, they almost always declare that it was all "as they'd forseen", lol! 😂 Happened in RotJ, definitely was the entire premise of "Reindeer Games" (lol, where Theron played THE $lü++13$+ character every designed), and it's certainly how every "Die Hard" villain operated.
Who wrote this list? Usually you guys are spot on but this list seems to be written by someone who never saw any of the movies. Incredibles 2: She wants to completely discredit supers. If the writer paid attention to the movie supers were actually loved for the most part. The biggest problem was money to fix things. People don't care about that as much when it's their lives and their family on the line. She needed to turn the public against supers completely. Star Wars Rise of Skywalker: The emperor is trying to push her into the dark side and embrace her power. He's doing so by putting her in situations in which she needs to use the force more. He can't caudle her into the dark side. And where did the star destroyers come from? They were being built in secret on a planet practically no one knew how to get to. Shang Chi: This list stated the reason and explained why it made sense. Just because he saw some monsters come out doesn't change his mind that his wife is still locked behind the wall. In fact it could strengthen his resolve as he could see those monsters as other protectors of the prison his wife is trapped in. Godzilla King of Monsters: This list completely ignores 2 things. No one knew that Ghidorah was not of this world and once Ghidorah was released, Dr. Russel no longer had control. It also ignores the fact that Ghidorah simply being around altered the other monsters behavior. At the end of the movie and in the next we see that the monsters are living fairly harmoniously with man. The idea of her plan made perfect sense and she knew some people would get hurt but thought it was best in the long term. (I didn't agree with it but you can see the logic behind it) Dark Knight Rises: 1st point, Bane was not the main baddie. Talia Al Ghul was. The plan was a lot more intricate then just blow up Gotham and they specifically wanted Batman to watch. He was put in a prison that only one other person has ever escaped from with a broken back. No one was expecting him to really recover nor escape. But to see the plan in it's full purpose, you have to watch Batman Begins as well since they are continuing what Ras al ghul wanted. And you can't say something doesn't make sense when you admittedly assume things. Bruce Wayne would somehow have to prove he was not part of the group that had multiple men in masks in the building and who knows how many others in the shadows. And that stunt was more of a humiliation tactic than anything else. They wanted to break Batman in every way. The possibility of him being able to get his money back which would have required their whole plan to fail is an insignificant detail.
At least for Last Jedi we know what the production company was really thinking. It's that they were having a civil war. Rian Johnson had a different vision from what JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy wanted, so the transition is disjointed and they had to spend a lot of time in the 3rd movie retconning the 2nd.
I’m pretty sure Wesker’s plan was just pretending to be an ally to get Alice and the rest of the resistance all together in one place. Then he betrayed them which allowed Umbrella to take them all out at once. Although pretending to give Alice her powers back was probably unnecessary for his plan to work, it may not have been part of the original plan because the writing was definitely all over the place for this franchise.
Sounds like you didn't understand Bane's plan at all He clearly states why he keeps Bruce alive and keeps the people believing there's a chance of redemption. Hope. He wants them to feel hope to the point where they genuinely believe they'll be saved, only to THEN take away that hope and crush them.
That would make sense if he was trying to change the U.S.A or the world. But he just cared about bruce and gothem. Since he was going to blow it up anyway why not just blow it up?
Keeping Bruce alive honestly makes sense, he has to suffer, but the wait to detonate the bomb is still terribly arbitrary. Particularly since they aren't very hopeful at all after he took away the one fighting against him effectively, so it's not crushing anything more by waiting.
In 3 separate Superman movies, Lex's endgame was real estate. Superman: He wants to change the geography of the west coast So his inland properties become beach front. Superman II: He straight up asks Zod for Australia. Superman Returns: Lex flat out produces a kryptonite landmass in the ocean. What's even "worse" in Batman v Superman, he basically bribes a badass (with kryptonite) to take down his self proclaimed "bully".
You forgot the incredibly stupid plot of the villains in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Step 1: create a super psychotic intelligent dino killing machine. Step 2: Condition it to go absolutely kill crazy when you shoot a target person with a special laser rifle. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit! So their devious plan was to secretly smuggle a huge, hungry, does-not-travel-well dino into target's general proximity, manhandle it into position so dino can see target, have sniper "shoot" target with laser rifle, then sit back as psycho dino kills target along with every living human in a twenty mile radius. Maybe serve popcorn and champagne to the billionaire customers as they watch the slaughter on pay-per-view dark web sites. If Rube Goldberg was an assassin even he would consider this plan too complicated to work.
Snoke WAS the Emperor. He was a genetic strand-cast (a clone) of Sidius to act as a proxy in power and so wanted Ren to kill Rey so he could take her body. Also, movie Wesker and Game Wesker have two totally different motives. Game Wesker is understandable, movie Wesker was fumbled so very, very badly.
Earth was not his home, Krypton was. Keep in mind that when he was talking about terraforming Earth, he meant the planet itself. He wouldn’t be able or willing to do anything about the sun.
It's really just a writers allusion to the Greek myth of persephone being kidnapped by hades and its clearly just a post-spectre film done to tie up spectre and just tacks on an extra bad guy in so doing. It's OK if you catch the writing nuances, but not so much if you don't
It's a smack in the teeth to any Bond fan who has followed the character for all these years , spent tons of money on this franchise and love everything about it. Not only did it kill off two of the main characters , it gave the people who had to follow this mess a major headache , in that if they ignored the ending it would look stupid so a F 'Reboot' is literally the only option left open to them , an option which once again shits all over the beloved franchise by people who simply don't give a crap , the worst thing is the two deaths were completely pointless and could have been changed to give the next crew an 'OUT'
For The incredibles 2 argument i feel like beucase of her brothers plans, his ideas, his passion to bring back supers. Her whole plan was to stop her brother from making supers legal again. It made sense for her to do that becuase she believed that if she didn’t anything. Supers would be legal again. And she tried to stop. Thats how i see it but then again i haven't watched it since it came out.
What *are* you talking about? The Government in Incredibles 2 made supers illegal. Not all of society hated them. Also, Incredibles 2 took place hours after they returned from the island, not decades.
Thanos will always be the most absurd to me. Killing half the population of the universe to save it from the resource scarcity brought about by overpopulation. Where do I even start? 1- On earth alone, the population was half what it currently is 50 years ago. Is he just planning on doing this every 50 years? 2- Many species in the universe can travel across the galaxy, and thus are free from resource concerns. I guess half of all of them gotta go too? 3- Since the technology exists, per point 2, for a species to unbind themselves from overpopulation based resource limitations, why not simply give these species spacefaring technology? Whatever issues may arise from this can't be worse than slaughtering half the universe every 50 years.
Honestly, the original comic book reasoning to his plan made far more sense than suggesting that the theoretically endlessly expanding universe might run out of resources. "Hey, Thanos, why are you trying to kill half of all life everywhere?" "I'm trying to get laid." *Holds up picture of Lady Death* "With her." "Completely understandable. Good luck with your super mass genocide."
The biggest issue with Thanos' plan is that it really only kicks the can down the road. Eventually the population will rise again. Instead of increasing resources, which were by his logic a fixed data point, he removed 50% of the population, which was a variable that is always changing.
0:39 when i watched this movie, as soon as i heard her name evelyn devor, i put two and two together. Evelyn Devor= evil endeavor =Evelyn being the villain. It wasnt that great if a twist
So Bane's plan wasn't to attack the plane, attack the financial center, attack and kidnap Batman, leave Batman in India and use a nuke? He sure had me fooled
@@ChristophBrinkmannBane wasn't the one in charge though. You wouldn't call the dday landings captain miller's plan even though he had situational command of some ground troops
How does the fact that it was actually Talia's plan make it any better? The actual criticism is that the plan didn't make sense. They just mistakenly said it was Bane's.
Poppy in Kingsman would still be successful, just because a drug is dangerous doesn't stop people from using it, and people that use A lot of drugs are very forgiving towards the people that supply them. Naybe it would have been slow the first year but it would have picked up fast I would think
I guess someone didn't get the point of Dark Knigh: Rises. I guess if he watched I saw the Devil, he would claim our hero should just kill the villain.
I remember watching No Time to Die and for the first hour I had no idea what was going on or why. Action happens, people die... all for no discernible reason. Daniel Craig may be one of the best Bonds but his movies were poorly written and mostly suck.
Incredibles 2... did you not watch the whole movie? The whole point is her brother trying to make super heroes great again! It's his whole SHABANG!! And they were almost getting there but not quite due to the screen slaver smh
Bane spent years in a psychological prison, he wanted Gotham and Batman to have that same trauma with everything they took for granted taken from them but still be alive to experience it. It was a slow pain like twisting the knife, just like Talia did to Bruce
Evelyn's plan actually does kind of make sense. From what I understood, she began her Screen Slaver plan because her brother was trying to bring superheroes back, and she didn't want that, so she took measures to foil his plan. She wasn't just trying to ensure heroes remained banned for no reason, she saw that her brother might undo the status quo if he had his way, so she took measures to stop him.
Yarp. If there's only one way that film didn't make sense it was the hand-wavey 'insurance companies would cover the losses' with the moles. Especially considering the last job Bob got fired from.
@@paulduffy9481 that's from the first film, is part of the government's policy to keep the heroes retired. They are basically forced to pay so that they can act like nothing happened and they don't need heroes to come back.
@@themantyf1116 The point being that Bob was working for an insurance company that had complex systems to deny payouts, then insurance will just cough up without hesitation in the second film?
@@paulduffy9481 yes, when they are dealing with civilians. A mother needing to make ends meet, or money need for repairs. Banks, companies and government? They get the money they need with little hesitation. It's also literally how it works in the real world.
The lady from Godzilla thought she could bring balance to the whole Kaiju ecosystem, but failed to realize that Ghidorah was not part of that system but in fact an alien. Though that doesn't make the original plan any better.
Part of her motivation was also grief. She lost a son during Godzilla's fight with the MUTOs. It wasn't until Ghidorah was revealed to be an alien invasive species, the EcoTerrorist was worse than she thought, and her daughter was threatened that she started to realize the mistake she made.
jj abrams is a terrible director How could someone missing their loved one be so desperate to reunite with them after 1000 years? 🙄 whoever wrote that script doesn't understand human emotions. Why would she need to see a giant monster in action when all those ceos are still alive? That is a weak plot. every cop is an idiot, more so than the fictional ones. You forgot thanos and Infinity wars. His plan was so stupid. Blinking out half the population isn't a smart answer, blinking out the resource horders is. It's like what Luigi did, but done with the Gauntlet, no one would have to be falsely accused of murder. ceos aren't human, thus it's not murder.
Eh... Holdo wasn't a villain. Just a poorly written character who came across as dismissive of any concerns. And frankly TLJ was a WTF Tableflip that made no sense anyways.
I’ve said that Gotham City PD are mostly idiots for years. They fight Batman rather than deal with the psychopath killing many of the innocent civilians in front of them.
Somehow it doesn’t surprise me that most of these are from modern films. I’ll defend Incredibles 2 and Rise of Skywalker’s villain plans because there’s an ultimate goal behind them, but I still can’t figure out what Safin’s plan even is.
@chrisjohnson1146 yes yes that's exactly right he would have made the perfect Bond villain for that reason or maybe maybe he could have played someone that didn't used to be bought but maybe he could have played just a different character that happens to be a bond villain
Mantilla Venture Bros. Radiant Is The Blood Of The Baboon Heart great movie barely remembered her motives In It but I do remember she provided Genetic Material for Thaddeus "Rusty" Venture to create Hank and Dean Venture but low key though Preserve This IP Please and Metalocalypse that was also a good movie
The Incredibles 2 is a bit different than portrayed. First, the villain doesn't blame superheroes for the death of his father, she blames FAITH in superheroes: the issue isn't that they didn't come (and, fun fact, if you watch the duology back to back you realize that the likely reason was that Syndrome had killed them), but that the father even called them in the first place. And she actually DID nothing for years since superheroes were shunned by society, she only concocted the Screenslaver to sabotage her brother's plan to rehabilitate heroes in the public's eyes (which was actually going well). It's an interesting inversion of classic superheroes movies, as in this case is the villain the one who is purely reactive while the heroes were being proactive. As for Shang-Chi, first he doesn't know about the demon, the movie show explicitly that even learning about the village took him centuries and he didn't know anything more after being shunned from entering, and wouldn't (doesn't) listen to them anyway since he blames them for her wife's death. Second, he was made immortal by magical rings and lives in a world where sorcerers are famous and half the Earth's population was brought back from the dead, I don't think it's out there for him to assume his wife could be resurrected. Third, for seeing the creatures coming out, he actually doesn't. He could, but he is too obsessed with breaking the wall in front of him and getting his wife back to care about anything else. I also wouldn't even call it a plan in the first place, is a desperate man wanting his wife back and with a lot of power in his hands.
Well, if you watch stuff like Shang-Chi, it means you already have serious mental problems. The whole idea of a movie like that is pathetic, not just the "villain" of the movie.
General Zod in Man of Steel. He is working to terraform the Earth to be like Kyrpton when it already can sustain him and his army while the sun gives them unlimited powers and abilities.
Not to mention they would be considered heros of Earth if the decided to protect the planet.
I just assumed it was a much easier way to kill off humanity. Why go through all the hassle of painstakingly hunting every living human one by one when you can just alter the atmosphere to make the planet uninhabitable for them? The real question is, if he could terraform a planet, why didn't he just go pick an uninhabited planet in the first place?
Umm…but earth isn’t his home. The sun gives him power, not the earth. He wants the earth to be like his home world. Seems pretty logical.
lol he is a living God on earth and wants to terraform the planet why exactly?!
@@FCastro-wm5yv to recreate the Krypton. He doesn't care about ruling, saving regular humans or being a God. He wants his home back and to save his people - kryptonians in the Codex.
Haven't seen Shang-Chi since it was in theaters, so I could be remembered it wrong, but I assumed he was being mentally manipulated.
Just because he was long-lived and experienced, doesn't prevent his mind from being tricked.
With Palpatine, I never understand why he told people ''strike me down so I can posess you'' could have just kept his mouth shut when they probably would.
Maybe there was some unexplained rule where they had to be informed in order for it to work - not that this makes sense either, but it's possible. More likely it's just an inflated ego.
In return of the Jedi he told Luke, Kill Vader then you will take his place as my second in command! Yeah sure, be your slave until you find some other fool that is stronger to replace(Kill) me. Why wouldn't I agree to that idea.
She did strike him down and then stole the Skywalker name and property. Sounds to me like he was correct.
Yeah, I almost expected a twist there because if he had just kept his mouth shut Rey would have fallen into his trap perfectly.
@@themantyf1116 Exactly, she and others would have, guess it was ego - but if he was patient for that long knowng when to keep his mouth shut (him knowing his power) you'd think he would have leanred from last time to ''shhh they'll do it'' even when Kylo Ren was about to strike him he offered him more. Dude was a maniac. He'll be back probably. He needed a Skywalker to strike him down, Kylo was a Skywalker so was Luke, but nope. Then Rey turned up and still... nope. It makes no sense.
Umbrella Corp. itself doesn't make much sense. It's a for profit organization that makes bioweapons, but without governments or buyers, there's no money to receive and much less anywhere to spend it.
Even when I saw Incredibles 2 in theaters I felt the villain's motivations in the movie were backwards. Her father was killed by 2 robbers because he was relying on superheroes to come save him after they had to go into hiding. So, her plan is to get mind controlled superheroes to stage a terrorist attack to keep them in hiding. But at the same time, by doing this she will prevent those heroes from saving the day & more innocent people will get hurt. Plus, if she can mind control people, why not find a way to use her technology to stop criminals & make a profit in city defense programs instead?
Well, using them in defense programs might not work. Her mind control tech is about on par with Mad Hatter's control cards. Take away the cards or the screen goggles and the effect instantly lifts. Now if she used something like Hatter's Worry Men from Batman the Animated Series, it could work since those utilize post hypnotic suggestions while the target is asleep.
It would have made WAY more sense if the "good guy billionaire" (forgot his name) was the Screenslaver. He desperately wanted to bring heroes back so he engineered the plan to slowly bring Elastagirl back into the public eye while at the same time creating a supervillain that she'd have to stop thus proving that supers are needed.
Would have made a lot more sense than the sister's plan.
I honestly felt like the Resident Evil movies were all written and directed by different people. Then I learned that the same writer, AND director, worked on every single film. I'm just thinking..."What the hell is going through that guys mind?"
Bane wasn’t the mastermind. The real villain was Talia al Ghul. Bane only reason for anything was because of his loyalty to the league of shadows and his love for Talia. Talia reason was just revenge for her father’s death.
Residents evil just had bad writers and certain concepts was retcon.
Surprised that Civil War didn't make the list. Zemo's completely insane plan requires so many things to happen that he has NO control over but had to happen exactly as they do for his ultimate plan to work. It made absolutely no sense.
Uhh what? His plan makes sense just fine, he only needed a few key moments to occur, that's it, the rest of it had nothing to do with him and only with the Sokovia Accords causing the friction between people.
Zemo’s plan was to frame Bucky as a political terrorist. He did.
If Captain America had informed Iron Man that Hydra had killed his father before the movie "Civil War" started, then they might not have had the true falling out that occurred in the climax.
@VincentMurphy000, glad to see some people out there get it!
I wouldn’t say that his plan made no sense as we know why he did it and what he relied on for it to work but it’s really more as you said: the plan required certain people to act in very specific ways that he had absolutely no control over and he couldn’t have even foreseen. Not so much a nonsensical plan as it was a Batman Gambit
Its just easier to assume that Umbrella activates and dispose of different clones of Wesker since he ISNT EVEN THE BIG BOSS
There was a comic called Dark Empire that Rise of Skywalker seemed to derive some of its ideas from (like the Emperor using clone bodies to survive.) I would have preferred to see the World Devistators from the comic instead of the planet killing Star Destroyers. Basically they were mostly automated mobile factories that would suck up the resources of a planet. They could then turn those resources into things like robotic tie fighters, weapons, etc.
You should have included Star Trek: Nemesis. Shinzon, the clone of Jean-luc Picard, after being raised and abandoned by the Romulans, of course, decides to attack Earth...
10:58 What’s worse is that in the final film, the Red Queen tells Alice that Wesker “pretended” to give Alice her powers back. For what reason? 😂
To quote another well known TH-cam channel, "Why didn't Bane blow up the city and kill his rival when he had the chance?" "So the movie could happen."
I don't think there's any evidence to show that the scientist that turned the reactor into a bomb could make it just blow up instantly. I believe the movie clearly shows that the reactor needed its time clock aspect until it degenerated into "going nuclear".
9:15 Dreadful movie. I’ve hated it mostly for this very reason: taking Gotham hostage for months for no apparent reason other than to give Bruce time to heal, which Bane doesn’t even know is happening. He never expected him to return. It was the screenwriters being lazy.
I was watching it wondering:
A. How do cops survive in a dark tunnel for months?
B. Why doesn't the US government send in a few Marines teams to deal with the baddies? After 3 or 4 weeks I would.
I'm not a fan of ROS but palpatine has never had sensible plans, his plan in the prequels is ridiculously convoluted and only works because the jedi are just idiots, and even though ROTJ is my favourite film in the franchise his plan there isn't that smart either.
Plus him constantly having rey threatened and attacked could be to try and push her towards the darkside, so that when she kills his body in anger he can possess her.
Palpatine was mostly winging it rather than having a meticulous, well-thought out plan. His general plan was "become Chancellor, start a galactic size war, culminate power, and wipe out the Jedi".
Disagree, in the prequel it was a plan that worked over a long period of time requiring him slowly gathering power and followers rather than just one big flashy move, which is why it worked.
And it was consistent: every movie has Palpatine with more power and influence than how it started (he becomes Canchellor in the first, gets control of an army in the second, destroys the jedi in the third). It also has a Xanatos vibe to it, since he was also the guiding force of the separatists, so if the republic failed to stop them he would have ended up on top anyway.
And yeah, RotJ had flaws, but at least in that movie Kylo and Snooke had each their own plan and goal, retconning into them both being Palpatine's plan could have worked as another xanatos' gambit (as you said: if I kill Rey, I win and there are no more Jedi and I reign supreme, if Rey survives she is pushed to the dark side and I can possess her), but it's not how the movie paints it, it's us rewriting it to make sense.
Wen Wu wasnt stupid , he was obsessed. Brightest people in the world do the dumbest thing to get back lost love .
Also, he was under a spell.
Did you even watch KotM? The plan was to release the Earth native titans. Once Ghidorah was released and they realized he was an alien and started controlling the other titans to take over the planet, Emma realized she made a mistake. It made perfect sense.
I don't think he paid attention. Just like DKR.
Everything in the Dark Knight Rises doesn't make sense which this Batman film is a big letdown and the weakest of the Christopher Nolan trilogy.
In almost every case, the villain's plans actually require everything to go WRONG. At that point, they almost always declare that it was all "as they'd forseen", lol! 😂 Happened in RotJ, definitely was the entire premise of "Reindeer Games" (lol, where Theron played THE $lü++13$+ character every designed), and it's certainly how every "Die Hard" villain operated.
Who wrote this list? Usually you guys are spot on but this list seems to be written by someone who never saw any of the movies.
Incredibles 2: She wants to completely discredit supers. If the writer paid attention to the movie supers were actually loved for the most part. The biggest problem was money to fix things. People don't care about that as much when it's their lives and their family on the line. She needed to turn the public against supers completely.
Star Wars Rise of Skywalker: The emperor is trying to push her into the dark side and embrace her power. He's doing so by putting her in situations in which she needs to use the force more. He can't caudle her into the dark side. And where did the star destroyers come from? They were being built in secret on a planet practically no one knew how to get to.
Shang Chi: This list stated the reason and explained why it made sense. Just because he saw some monsters come out doesn't change his mind that his wife is still locked behind the wall. In fact it could strengthen his resolve as he could see those monsters as other protectors of the prison his wife is trapped in.
Godzilla King of Monsters: This list completely ignores 2 things. No one knew that Ghidorah was not of this world and once Ghidorah was released, Dr. Russel no longer had control. It also ignores the fact that Ghidorah simply being around altered the other monsters behavior. At the end of the movie and in the next we see that the monsters are living fairly harmoniously with man. The idea of her plan made perfect sense and she knew some people would get hurt but thought it was best in the long term. (I didn't agree with it but you can see the logic behind it)
Dark Knight Rises: 1st point, Bane was not the main baddie. Talia Al Ghul was. The plan was a lot more intricate then just blow up Gotham and they specifically wanted Batman to watch. He was put in a prison that only one other person has ever escaped from with a broken back. No one was expecting him to really recover nor escape. But to see the plan in it's full purpose, you have to watch Batman Begins as well since they are continuing what Ras al ghul wanted. And you can't say something doesn't make sense when you admittedly assume things. Bruce Wayne would somehow have to prove he was not part of the group that had multiple men in masks in the building and who knows how many others in the shadows. And that stunt was more of a humiliation tactic than anything else. They wanted to break Batman in every way. The possibility of him being able to get his money back which would have required their whole plan to fail is an insignificant detail.
At least for Last Jedi we know what the production company was really thinking. It's that they were having a civil war. Rian Johnson had a different vision from what JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy wanted, so the transition is disjointed and they had to spend a lot of time in the 3rd movie retconning the 2nd.
I’m pretty sure Wesker’s plan was just pretending to be an ally to get Alice and the rest of the resistance all together in one place. Then he betrayed them which allowed Umbrella to take them all out at once. Although pretending to give Alice her powers back was probably unnecessary for his plan to work, it may not have been part of the original plan because the writing was definitely all over the place for this franchise.
Sounds like you didn't understand Bane's plan at all
He clearly states why he keeps Bruce alive and keeps the people believing there's a chance of redemption. Hope. He wants them to feel hope to the point where they genuinely believe they'll be saved, only to THEN take away that hope and crush them.
That would make sense if he was trying to change the U.S.A or the world. But he just cared about bruce and gothem. Since he was going to blow it up anyway why not just blow it up?
Keeping Bruce alive honestly makes sense, he has to suffer, but the wait to detonate the bomb is still terribly arbitrary. Particularly since they aren't very hopeful at all after he took away the one fighting against him effectively, so it's not crushing anything more by waiting.
In 3 separate Superman movies, Lex's endgame was real estate. Superman: He wants to change the geography of the west coast So his inland properties become beach front. Superman II: He straight up asks Zod for Australia. Superman Returns: Lex flat out produces a kryptonite landmass in the ocean. What's even "worse" in Batman v Superman, he basically bribes a badass (with kryptonite) to take down his self proclaimed "bully".
In the kingsmen the golden circle the American version of kingsmen are the statesmen
Thank you captain obvious.
I honestly think the bad guy from Kingsman Golden Circle has a point & relatable, same as Killmonger in Black Panther
4:10 was about to say that.
JJ Abrams just did a soft reboot and nothing made sense ever again
You forgot the incredibly stupid plot of the villains in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom.
Step 1: create a super psychotic intelligent dino killing machine.
Step 2: Condition it to go absolutely kill crazy when you shoot a target person with a special laser rifle.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!
So their devious plan was to secretly smuggle a huge, hungry, does-not-travel-well dino into target's general proximity, manhandle it into position so dino can see target, have sniper "shoot" target with laser rifle, then sit back as psycho dino kills target along with every living human in a twenty mile radius. Maybe serve popcorn and champagne to the billionaire customers as they watch the slaughter on pay-per-view dark web sites.
If Rube Goldberg was an assassin even he would consider this plan too complicated to work.
Snoke WAS the Emperor. He was a genetic strand-cast (a clone) of Sidius to act as a proxy in power and so wanted Ren to kill Rey so he could take her body.
Also, movie Wesker and Game Wesker have two totally different motives. Game Wesker is understandable, movie Wesker was fumbled so very, very badly.
Earth was not his home, Krypton was. Keep in mind that when he was talking about terraforming Earth, he meant the planet itself. He wouldn’t be able or willing to do anything about the sun.
..."monologues as all villains do."...😂
I'm glad I didn't see No Time to Die as it sounds like a ludicrous film
It's really just a writers allusion to the Greek myth of persephone being kidnapped by hades and its clearly just a post-spectre film done to tie up spectre and just tacks on an extra bad guy in so doing. It's OK if you catch the writing nuances, but not so much if you don't
It's a smack in the teeth to any Bond fan who has followed the character for all these years , spent tons of money on this franchise and love everything about it. Not only did it kill off two of the main characters , it gave the people who had to follow this mess a major headache , in that if they ignored the ending it would look stupid so a F 'Reboot' is literally the only option left open to them , an option which once again shits all over the beloved franchise by people who simply don't give a crap , the worst thing is the two deaths were completely pointless and could have been changed to give the next crew an 'OUT'
1:32 But at that point Supers were gaining support to be come legal again
Clearly you’ve never met a drug addict 😂
For The incredibles 2 argument i feel like beucase of her brothers plans, his ideas, his passion to bring back supers. Her whole plan was to stop her brother from making supers legal again. It made sense for her to do that becuase she believed that if she didn’t anything. Supers would be legal again. And she tried to stop. Thats how i see it but then again i haven't watched it since it came out.
What *are* you talking about? The Government in Incredibles 2 made supers illegal. Not all of society hated them. Also, Incredibles 2 took place hours after they returned from the island, not decades.
Thanos will always be the most absurd to me. Killing half the population of the universe to save it from the resource scarcity brought about by overpopulation. Where do I even start?
1- On earth alone, the population was half what it currently is 50 years ago. Is he just planning on doing this every 50 years?
2- Many species in the universe can travel across the galaxy, and thus are free from resource concerns. I guess half of all of them gotta go too?
3- Since the technology exists, per point 2, for a species to unbind themselves from overpopulation based resource limitations, why not simply give these species spacefaring technology? Whatever issues may arise from this can't be worse than slaughtering half the universe every 50 years.
The man had a plan and he stuck to it. Doesn't matter the logistics
Honestly, the original comic book reasoning to his plan made far more sense than suggesting that the theoretically endlessly expanding universe might run out of resources.
"Hey, Thanos, why are you trying to kill half of all life everywhere?"
"I'm trying to get laid." *Holds up picture of Lady Death* "With her."
"Completely understandable. Good luck with your super mass genocide."
The biggest issue with Thanos' plan is that it really only kicks the can down the road. Eventually the population will rise again. Instead of increasing resources, which were by his logic a fixed data point, he removed 50% of the population, which was a variable that is always changing.
4-Why didn't he just increase the resources?
@@mightyzekken basically...yes.
Baron Zemo has to be on this list.
10:02 HEROINE!!!, NOT A HERO.😂 why people always forget that female is heroine 😂
5:57 love that’s why he’s so stupid even after seeing the monsters/Demons being released he doesn’t care all he way is his true love
0:39 when i watched this movie, as soon as i heard her name evelyn devor, i put two and two together. Evelyn Devor= evil endeavor =Evelyn being the villain. It wasnt that great if a twist
You remember that none of that was Bane’s plan right?!
So Bane's plan wasn't to attack the plane, attack the financial center, attack and kidnap Batman, leave Batman in India and use a nuke? He sure had me fooled
@@ChristophBrinkmannBane wasn't the one in charge though. You wouldn't call the dday landings captain miller's plan even though he had situational command of some ground troops
How does the fact that it was actually Talia's plan make it any better? The actual criticism is that the plan didn't make sense. They just mistakenly said it was Bane's.
Bane wanted to make Batman and Gotham suffer before destroying them.
Not exactly. He wanted the world to see it falling into chaos. Thus, when he (well really Talia) blew it up, to would be seen as a cleansing.
@ that too. But Batman had to suffer by seeing what was happening to his city.
@@jacoblind5390 he was in a hole in the middle of the desert or something. Was he informed of what was going on back home?
@ bane specifically left a tv on behind a cage so he had to see it. Until Batman break the tv of course.
In other words, the plan was janky because the League of Shadows decided to forego efficiency in all aspects for petty revenge.
At what point did Christopher Nolan go crazy and ruin the 3rd film's logic?
Poppy in Kingsman would still be successful, just because a drug is dangerous doesn't stop people from using it, and people that use A lot of drugs are very forgiving towards the people that supply them. Naybe it would have been slow the first year but it would have picked up fast I would think
I guess someone didn't get the point of Dark Knigh: Rises. I guess if he watched I saw the Devil, he would claim our hero should just kill the villain.
I remember watching No Time to Die and for the first hour I had no idea what was going on or why. Action happens, people die... all for no discernible reason. Daniel Craig may be one of the best Bonds but his movies were poorly written and mostly suck.
The Shang-Chi one is a bit lazy
The Dweller is the actual villain in the movie and Shang-Chi's father is just a key
Incredibles 2... did you not watch the whole movie? The whole point is her brother trying to make super heroes great again! It's his whole SHABANG!! And they were almost getting there but not quite due to the screen slaver smh
Bane spent years in a psychological prison, he wanted Gotham and Batman to have that same trauma with everything they took for granted taken from them but still be alive to experience it. It was a slow pain like twisting the knife, just like Talia did to Bruce
Evelyn's plan actually does kind of make sense. From what I understood, she began her Screen Slaver plan because her brother was trying to bring superheroes back, and she didn't want that, so she took measures to foil his plan. She wasn't just trying to ensure heroes remained banned for no reason, she saw that her brother might undo the status quo if he had his way, so she took measures to stop him.
That's exactly what I was thinking
Yarp. If there's only one way that film didn't make sense it was the hand-wavey 'insurance companies would cover the losses' with the moles.
Especially considering the last job Bob got fired from.
@@paulduffy9481 that's from the first film, is part of the government's policy to keep the heroes retired. They are basically forced to pay so that they can act like nothing happened and they don't need heroes to come back.
@@themantyf1116 The point being that Bob was working for an insurance company that had complex systems to deny payouts, then insurance will just cough up without hesitation in the second film?
@@paulduffy9481 yes, when they are dealing with civilians. A mother needing to make ends meet, or money need for repairs.
Banks, companies and government? They get the money they need with little hesitation.
It's also literally how it works in the real world.
The lady from Godzilla thought she could bring balance to the whole Kaiju ecosystem, but failed to realize that Ghidorah was not part of that system but in fact an alien. Though that doesn't make the original plan any better.
Part of her motivation was also grief. She lost a son during Godzilla's fight with the MUTOs. It wasn't until Ghidorah was revealed to be an alien invasive species, the EcoTerrorist was worse than she thought, and her daughter was threatened that she started to realize the mistake she made.
jj abrams is a terrible director
How could someone missing their loved one be so desperate to reunite with them after 1000 years? 🙄 whoever wrote that script doesn't understand human emotions.
Why would she need to see a giant monster in action when all those ceos are still alive? That is a weak plot.
every cop is an idiot, more so than the fictional ones.
You forgot thanos and Infinity wars. His plan was so stupid. Blinking out half the population isn't a smart answer, blinking out the resource horders is. It's like what Luigi did, but done with the Gauntlet, no one would have to be falsely accused of murder. ceos aren't human, thus it's not murder.
Amazing video
9: Vice Admiral Holdo trying to escape with a ship that is already low on fuel (and then accidentally hitting a super star destroyer in the process)
Eh... Holdo wasn't a villain. Just a poorly written character who came across as dismissive of any concerns. And frankly TLJ was a WTF Tableflip that made no sense anyways.
@chrisjohnson1146 duh
I’ve said that Gotham City PD are mostly idiots for years. They fight Batman rather than deal with the psychopath killing many of the innocent civilians in front of them.
Nah that makes sense because whatever else he does Batman is ALSO against corrupt cops and that makes him a threat to the very idea of policing
Remove Xu Wenwu from this list.
Yeah I'm sure they'll get right on that.
I don’t remember Albert Wesker being a cannibal in the video games.
Can anyone tell me what was the point Jared Leto's character in 2049?
It's hilarious how most of your list consists of some of THE worst movies of the last decade!
So, your argument for number 4 is that if people knew drugs were poison they wouldn't take them? I've got some bad news for you...
Somehow it doesn’t surprise me that most of these are from modern films. I’ll defend Incredibles 2 and Rise of Skywalker’s villain plans because there’s an ultimate goal behind them, but I still can’t figure out what Safin’s plan even is.
You can actually defend Rise of Skywalker? 😂
Defending Incredibles 2? Lmao💀
@@Deuteromis I can't even defend any chapter after 6 of the Star Wars movies. They were just so bad.
Thanos.
Sean Connery would have made a great Bond villain🎉🎉🎉
He essentially was in the 1998 The Avengers, just subbing John Steed in for James Bond.
@HariSeldon913 you were reading my mind
But... he WAS Bond himself?
@chrisjohnson1146 yes yes that's exactly right he would have made the perfect Bond villain for that reason or maybe maybe he could have played someone that didn't used to be bought but maybe he could have played just a different character that happens to be a bond villain
So Iron Man now playing Dr. Doom is what you are talking about?
The James Bond film series is not the Avengers MCU franchise would be my answer.
Not a great list
Mantilla Venture Bros. Radiant Is The Blood Of The Baboon Heart great movie barely remembered her motives In It but I do remember she provided Genetic Material for Thaddeus "Rusty" Venture to create Hank and Dean Venture but low key though Preserve This IP Please and Metalocalypse that was also a good movie
The Incredibles 2 is a bit different than portrayed. First, the villain doesn't blame superheroes for the death of his father, she blames FAITH in superheroes: the issue isn't that they didn't come (and, fun fact, if you watch the duology back to back you realize that the likely reason was that Syndrome had killed them), but that the father even called them in the first place. And she actually DID nothing for years since superheroes were shunned by society, she only concocted the Screenslaver to sabotage her brother's plan to rehabilitate heroes in the public's eyes (which was actually going well). It's an interesting inversion of classic superheroes movies, as in this case is the villain the one who is purely reactive while the heroes were being proactive.
As for Shang-Chi, first he doesn't know about the demon, the movie show explicitly that even learning about the village took him centuries and he didn't know anything more after being shunned from entering, and wouldn't (doesn't) listen to them anyway since he blames them for her wife's death. Second, he was made immortal by magical rings and lives in a world where sorcerers are famous and half the Earth's population was brought back from the dead, I don't think it's out there for him to assume his wife could be resurrected. Third, for seeing the creatures coming out, he actually doesn't. He could, but he is too obsessed with breaking the wall in front of him and getting his wife back to care about anything else.
I also wouldn't even call it a plan in the first place, is a desperate man wanting his wife back and with a lot of power in his hands.
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Well, if you watch stuff like Shang-Chi, it means you already have serious mental problems. The whole idea of a movie like that is pathetic, not just the "villain" of the movie.
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