Douglas Ross accuses Nicola Sturgeon of 'lying to the Scottish people' over EU
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- Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of 'lying to the Scottish people' by Scots Tory leader Douglas Ross.
In a fiery First Minister's questions, Ross and Sturgeon clashed over the chances of Scotland rejoining the European Union should independence come about.
Ross stated that since officials had said the Euro must be used if an EU application is to be successful, that Sturgeon had misled the country in the recent economic independence paper from the Scottish Government.
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She doesnt speak for scotland
She does.
It's her job.
Do you not like democracy?
I think u will find she does no matter how much u hate it lol
@@julianshepherd2038 no she doesn’t she speaks for her cult most f Scotland don’t agree with her or her party’s policies
@@superscotland she doesn’t she represents the ira republican puddledrinkers of Scotland ! Why she cosies up to Martin mcguinesd etc she speaks for less than half of Scotland like it or not
@@julianshepherd2038 dont talk about democracy when she doesnt when the vote in 2014 simply says no and that was SCOTLAND that voted mind
I refuse to listen to any Tory call anyone else a liar.
I TAKE IT YOUR TALKING ABOUT NICOLIAR.
@@michaelobrien9825 As I say, I refuse to hear any Tory call anyone else a liar.
@@paulhagen5645 I'M MOST CERTAINLY NOT A CONSERVATIVE FOOL.
@@michaelobrien9825 OK then. Not a Tory. Just a fool?
@@paulhagen5645 I WILL NOT BE DICTATED TO BY THE FOOLS NICOLIAR AND HER SPECIAL NEEDS PARTY THATS ALL, REMEMBER WE STILL HAVE FREE SPEECH IN SCOTLAND, FREEDOM.
Scots deserves far better , than Sturgeon ...
I wish more of my fellow Scots thought this way.
Yes we need Boris, Liz sorry Richie (snigger)
And what is that Westminster sounds like Masonic. Ibrox. I am correct
@@paparobbo62 odd who's Richie???
@Farright Awright shite
they don't listen to the Scottish people in Westminster !!!! why stay joined , Scottish people get no respect from Westminster it's actually unbelievable that these 4 islands are still join make our own currency 2p can be the dross 🤣🤣
All countries "have to join the euro" but since the EU sets no date to do it, in practice they don't. there's no treaty obligation to join ERM II which is required to join the euro. Scotland would need to on paper promise to join the euro, but would not actually have to do it.
Never mind the hard border problem. Be careful what you wish for
There you go the penguin knows better 👍
If Police Scotland are an example of Scottish Independence, better check the number of complaints against their officers.
@@stephenlaw9886 hows it a problem? I personally have rarely crossed it and any time ive flown to london ive took my passport. It would make zero difference to my life and most id be willing to wager. I get it would affect people in dumfries but thats a minority
@@BlackCanery87 I wasn't thinking people,it's trade is the problem. Look at Northern Ireland now,the borders in the middle of the sea. The EU worry they might let goods over without getting their greedy hands on some tax
i dont get it, why are children allowed to govern themselves?
tories not just bullshitting in england but in scotland to - big news :D
That's rich from a Tory
Independence for Scotland and reunification of Ireland are moral and political imperatives. Moral because imperialism by England is immoral. Political because Scotland and Ulster should be in the EU.
It wasn't imperative in 2014,Scotland voted no. And,do Northern Ireland want to join the eu? No . Not everyone agrees with you. If in 2014 you had a yes vote,would you now allow the no's another vote? Of course not
What is the block grant in england what does it get, I haven't seen that shown anywhere...
Douglas Ross looks like a poor man’s Kevin bridges
Douglass Ross sounds like he is going to cry at times. It must be hard when your point basically is trying to tell your countrymen 'we are shit without England'.. pretty sad really.
He didn’t say that tho? He’s saying Scotland is better off in a union with England Wales and Northern Ireland than going alone.
@@RoobrtLiwanduski same same ffs. Scotland is a cash cow to London. Ruk isn't (atm)
How can Scotland be better off with the union, we are out of the EU against our 62% vote to remain.
NI is in a better position. Why can't Scots have the same deal.
Scotland has 75% of UK renewable energy and pays the highest energy bills in the UK.
Scotland has 97% of oil and pays the highest fuel prices in the UK.
Scotland does not burn gas to produce electricity but still pays towards the ruk.
So where is the better together the English political parties suggest.
Scotland has no democracy within the UK,
With 500+ seats to 59 scottish seats in westmonster shows where unequal the UK is.
With independence Scotland can be more aligned with the policies it demands and political parties can be held to account, something westmonster can never do.
We haven't vote for a tory party since the 50s.
@@niceadz6164 who tells you all this rubbish?
@Eleanor Crawford i'm Scottish, most of us have now woken up to the fact that we are being held back by Westminster. Yet Mr Ross's job depends on keeping the Scots in the dark on their countries capabilities are still managing to have support in the lesser (normally old and stubborn) educated, that out of all the colonies in the English empire, Scots actually benefit. Considering what we have given the world, and what we have.... it's ludicrous!!!
She won't be using the English pound either , so that leaves her with toy town money.
English pound lmao ok the pound collapses the minute we leave google that one
Leaves her with Scottish currency see ye later
Yes it will be Scottish Stirling pound clown England don't take Scottish notes the now whats the difference muppet
England would collapse to a third country the minute Scotland leaves. Every penny of the UK borrowing is based on Scottish oil. They have absolutely nothing else of value to anyone.
@@NapoleonDynamites yes 🙌🏼
Dougie Ross pure clown
Doesn't understand why we're still having this argument. When do we ever believe a Tory?
Lying is a Tory trait.
Sweden joined the EU in 1995 and still uses the krona after being a member of the EU for 27 years.
In total Seven EU countries do not use the Euro Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Denmark and Sweden.
Denmark has opt- outs from EU policies in relation to police and justice and the adoption of the EURO.
Three jobs Dross the branch office manager in Scotland of the London Tories is wrong except from Denmark who have an opt-out all EU countries have to give a commitment to join the Euro at some time in the future, But you have to join the ERM II for two years before joining the Euro.
Joining ERM II is voluntary.
The EU has not forced any country to join the Euro. All EU countries that have joined the Euro have volunteered to join the Euro.
I don't know but from what I hear from comments here and on other forms on Scottish independence the SNP seems to have put all their eggs into the EU basket is this the only plan or is there a plan B if not you could end up in a worse situation than your already in.
@@Minime163
An Independent Scotland could join EFTA with Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Lichtenstein.
EFTA countries have many trade deals with countries around the world including the EU and have access to the EU single market.
Or an Independent Scotland could join the EU who have trade deals with many countries around the world.
@@martindornan1667 if you think we’re some how going to be word leaders oh boy you’re deluded 😂
Did she answer the question....
What about Scotland?
😂😂😂😂😂
Given Scotland's huge natural resources and trading comparisons the EU will jump at the chance to fast track our membership. Again our Unionist friendly DR fails to mention that while yes Scotland would have to 'commit' to joining the Euro many recent member states still use their own currency and in any event we would have to first join the ERM which again is entirely voluntary. It surely just can't be editorial ignorance that prevents the DR and other nationalist media giving accurate news reports in Scotland.
No mate, only blaming Westminster, and Tories, as usual.
Yes she did.
Did you listen you thicko 😂
@@paparobbo62 They already said that we would be at the back of the line.
Just as Westminster does so does Scotish parliament they need for the short term to work together in these times of crisis for the good of the electorate, Not point scoring for next GE
You mean we should do as we are told
@@barrytees988 if you can't say anything sensible it's best to say nothing, I said pull together for the good of electorate across the board. How on earth is that doing as you're told
Always gets back to westminster Just wish these sweaty socks would fk off
@@johntozer8270 and do what ?. Vote in another uk government that Scotland did not and be ignored. That will not fix it for Scotland
@@millwallholdings Just because after independence we will be roasting up here dosen't mean we will all be sweaty socks. Some of us don't even wear socks ya fool. We are too poor to buy them, nobody knows how to make the and we are to daft to export them lol. We have learnt that it is going to be much more profitable for Scotland learning to do it for ourselve's
Wow how did she have those quotes ready that quickly 🤣 it's like she knew that question was going to be asked 😂...
She did because this fucking moron dross has nothing else. Same anti scottish rhetoric day in day out.
She can only work off a script
Hello Dayne. “Wow …” you say about Sturgeon’s quotes. Not really, do listen again to Nicola Sturgeon’s “direct quotes,” what she fails to understand is that the people she is quoting are talking about countries that are ALREADY members of the European Union and NOT non-member countries who want to join the EU*. Two of the clearer examples she gave are: David Cameron said: “Not all countries IN the European Union will join the euro.” Deputy Director at the Centre for European Reform: “Euro membership does not get forced on MEMBER STATES …” *David Martin’s opinion is the exception.
It's Dross asking the question he repeats the same question for 5yrs 🤣
@@4tnine thats being economical with the truth and you know it. Croatia for example joined in 2013 after the majority of those quotes and have no intention of joining the euro but have agreed to work towards it, which means nothing.
This isnt even hard, its actually quite sad how many people believe the nonsense on both sides when theres clear evidence they are talking piss. Then again when you have an agenda you will spout anything that suits it regardless of the truth.
Scotland would not meet the criteria for re-joining the EU. Also, a number of countries with separatist movements would veto any application from Scotland.
But Ukraine does, aye?
Scotland for EFTA is a match made in heaven, membership is guaranteed. By maintaining EU standards and progressing existing trade offices directly in several EU nations; all lost trade caused by the hard Brexit would be quickly recovered. A short step for Schengen and full EU customs union membership is not subject to your hypothetical imaginary constraints.
@@whitefalcon630 no… ukraine doesn’t… neither does Scotland..
Scotland already fulfills ALL criteria for joining the EU, Scotland already has EU Law enshrined in to it's legal system, the only thing we need is our own currency and that is already under way with the National Investment Bank waiting to become our Central Bank when we are "allowed " sick to death of you cultish brainwashed liars coming out with nonsense when you clearly know absolutely nothing about how the EU works and let me prove it, tell me, how are decisions made in the EU? From initial proposal to final implementation what is the process? A basic fundamental aspect of the EU, we're waiting genius
Utter drivel your ignorance is simply breathtaking.
It’s not like the Tories didn’t lie about Brexit!!!
See Nicola has her usual seal sitting behind clapping as usual.
Danni Kilbride so what have you seen that the seals behind Douglas Ross biggest seals going,well done Nicola giving the Tories what the deserve
Bring on independence 🏴🏴
@@susanferrie7233 the conservatives have selt everyone down the river but snp been robbing the Scottish people of which I am one also trying to turn kids into trans gender to suit their own agenda as the biggest part of snp councillors have been dabbling one way or the other as the amount who have been disciplined or expelled for sexual harassment speaks for itself hey snp leave those kids alone .
@@susanferrie7233 lol cringe
@@pierer91 cringe to you to
Are you sure about that Duggie?
Want to change your mind?
And again?
And again?
And again?
Have you ever taken it up the arse ? Gonna ask you same question the sno are asking kids did you enjoy it ? Did your father tell you he loved you afterwards ?
Tbh... Even if we aren't allowed to join the EU without using the Euro. Who cares? People are acting as if the Euro is somehow worthless or something. Why not just switch to using the Euro anyways? 🤔
I don't know but from the outside looking in it looks like Scotland going for independence could be as big a shit show as Brexit 1 I heard that new countries entering the EU have to join the euro I also heard that this is a request more than a requirement but one thing I do know is that if Scotland does vote for independence and applies to join the EU it will have to wait in line unless of course Nichola Sturgeon has made a deal with the EU to get quicker entry, plus I heard Nicola wants a hard border with England that sounds like madness it won't leave a farmer or a small to medium sized buissness person in Scotland why do you think we're fighting to avoid a border on the island of Ireland.
She is just talking about countries that are in the EU and especially Sweden 😂😂
She is talking about the seven EU member states that do not use the Euro and have their own currencies.
Sweden joined the EU in 1995 and gave a commitment to join the Euro at some point in the future, 27 years later Sweden still uses the krona.
To join the Euro a country has to join the ERM II for two years.
Joining the ERM II is voluntary
The EU hasn't forced any country to join the Euro.
Only Denmark has an opt-out of joining the Euro, yet in total Seven EU member countries don't use the Euro and have their own currencies.
@@martindornan1667 sturgeon thinks if Scotland becomes independent that they will be able to rejoin the EU but it takes decades to despite them voting against Brexit in 2016 when they voted to remain apart of the EU.
The only thing the SNP talk about is independence nothing else I’m afraid that you can’t keep have referendums after referendums until you get the result that you want
@@scottholmesfootball2785
An independent Scotland could join EFTA with Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Lichtenstein.
EFTA has many trade deals with countries around the world including the EU and has access to the EU single market.
Or an Independent Scotland could join the EU that has many trade deals with countries around the world.
Democracy isn't a one-time event.
Democracy didn't end in Scotland in 2014.
2019 general election in Scotland the Scottish people voted
SNP 48 MPs up 13 MPs
Tory 6 MPs down 7 MPs
Liberal 4 MPs
Labour 1 MP down 6 MPs
The SNP had Indyref2 in their election manifesto.
2021 Scottish parliament election proportional voting system Scottish people voted in 72 MSPs a majority of the Scottish parliament who had Indyref2 in their election manifestos.
The SNP have won the last 11 elections in Scotland.
The Scottish government has a democratic mandate from the Scottish people to hold the Indyref2 vote.
@@martindornan1667 the SNP don’t know what once in a generation is they turned down independence in 2014.
How about Westminister just said yes to it and if Scotland said no again then she will just have to leave it and resign
@@martindornan1667 I understand that they voted to remain apart of the EU but it will take a long time for them to rejoin.
If Scotland are allowed another independence referendum then how about Westminister give the whole of the UK another Brexit referendum like Sturgeon said “people have a right to change their minds” not just in Scotland,England aswell 🤣🤣
Krankie needs gone ASAP Krankie must go Scotland is a dump where's all the money gone krankie. 🤑😡🇬🇧👊
Lmao england stabbing each other to death and up to 48 hour long waits for ambulances brigade boy stfu stfd
In her wee treasure chest so she can make quick getaway and leave the Scot’s to clean up her mess ,
scotland has 90 percent working class and england has 50 percent middle class, how can the union be fair?
We scottish people would never survive under independence.
If we were all cowards like you mate we certainly wouldn't
That's what was said about the Irish once upon a time. Now our standard of living is far better and greater than any other nation on these islands.
9 comments on a 9 year old profile a typical britnat propaganda account
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 snps tax areirlovingwankstains!
@@liamcronin1137 um? Are you forgetting about the suffering before that? For like 60 years after Ireland become independent it was undeveloped and poor…
just give them there vote then let them go quicker the better
Their
I agree I am a natiolist and I can't wait for the union to be dissolved
SNP NO plans economically or socially.
they plan to raise the state pension to 400 pounds a week that's better than the uk s lowest in western europe 150ish quid, so there's that plan
@@raycroal That's not a plan that's a fantasy. BTW it won't be pounds will it
Scotland needs to be independant to apply for membership :))
@Floyd1504 Scotland is richer than many countries in the EU :) and was already in the EU, u should not worry about rich Scotland :)
Can’t be independent in a European dictatorship
@@gordonfleming458 european countries r all indépendant just putting things together ;) and Britain is falling in poverty and isolated ;))
@@didierlemoine6771 you are a European zealot it’s controlled by Germany a 4th reich we have you sussed out we are not going back to your corrupt regime anyway your not British so he haw to do with you
@@gordonfleming458 u will no worries ;))
Sturgeon knows these facts but it doesn't fit her agenda. And new rules are that after meeting criteria country's now must take the euro. Sturgeon is quoting old facts that were correct at the time. But again she knows this. She still did not answer the question. Who is wrong???
But we were told that Scotland has 100% renewable energy? . Not to mention the fact the SNP has no concept on central banking .
How can they join the eu when they plan on keeping GBP as there currency?
Are you away on the unfinished Ferrie boat
So she didn't know about the secret Chinese Police stationing in our Communities...Really???
She's been in Power for over 10 years and didn't know this has been going on ??
Get her out ASAP !!
Not all MEMBERS will join the Euro ! BUT any new member WILL BE FORCED TO !
There is no need to assert mendacity when ignorance and stupidity are sufficient explanations.
No biggy. Just use the Euro - Saves time at the Bureau de change in Benidorm.
We shouldnt be getting a block grant..... Some of our own money back..... We should have all our taxes !!
Mr Ross has never come up with a direct quote from an EU minister just sources within the EU ,this weathervane politician who's had more u turns than Liz untrustworthy doesn't deserve to be in the Scottish parliament god knows what idiots voted for him
She has ignored their referendum on leaving the UK why wouldn't she lie about Europe.
Scottish independence, can't wait
I can't wait either the quicker we get rid of Douglas Ross and his tories the better for Scotland 🏴 can't wait for independence the quicker we get rid of Westminster government and the tories the better for Scotland 🏴
@MsMissy it will happen some day the nationalists will make sure can't wait to get rid of England they are a pain in the neck
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Burn the union jack the Scottish flag is a lot better come on Scotland 🏴 get rid of Westminster government and the tories and labour and Liberal Democrats rule ourselves
Not upfront over her UK split plans, including on currency, tax rises and spending
And Brexit was upfront? Oven ready. Once independence referendum comes along and Scots vote yes our exit from UK will be well oven ready. FM is formidable far better than both PM Cameron and Boris put together not a brain cell between them that fires correctly. Liz Truss who? Just ignore her, a lettuce sorted her out. As for next PM Rishi Sunak well will see how that turns out.
@@lindacurrie8817 still bleating
Bravo et courage ! à cette Dame et olala, arrêtez svp lui taper sur la tête, merci !
scotland wouldnt need to accept the euro to join the eu, but if they were to join the eurozone it would be expected but again not madatory as there is no timeline expected to adopt the euro. reading all these comments i see not enough people do there own research and are focused up on putting Scotland down.
Any new country has to join the euro
snp No more different than please. 1st minister of Scotland must raise them Now
How can Scotland retain the Pound without a central bank if it becomes independent.
Are you aware the scot gov released a paper saying it would adopt it’s own currency. The Scottish pound? Which means it would have its own central bank.
Because it’s different types of pounds, you get Scottish pounds and you get English pounds already, am no for independence but I’m just letting you know
@@Antiquesandthings it’s like how Australia or Canada uses Australian/Canadian dollars
@@RoobrtLiwanduski i dont know too much about there banking system, so possibly?, but what i see it looks like they have there own central bank which means they can set there own interest rates.
@@Antiquesandthings there’s 2 main banks of Scotland really, there’s bank of Scotland that mostly deals with Scottish notes, and there’s the royal bank of Scotland that mainly deals with English notes, so I’m assuming they would just make Bank of Scotland the centre bank as it already exists, not sure about how the process would work but
For those who doubt independent Scotland ask what are our resources.
Scotland has a higher GDP per head than England. In terms of resources per head far greater fosestry, farmland, renewable, fish, tourism the list goes on. Can also discuss Scotlands dynamic role in many of the emerging industries of biotech and other sciences. Abundance of water and last but not least oil. No country that has all the latter above can be classed as a poor country.
Now your question is answered.
U really need to educate yourself Jesus that was just a sound bite, have you looked at the figures, but forgot your just like the trump supporters in America, your snp nothing else
You know your oil and gas got sold off years ago thank maggie and krankie will give Scottish fishing to Europe to get in plus uk gives a 30 billion pound top up and s n p still can’t pay the bills hopefully you can leave you can count on my vote from England 🏴
🤡
@@robertleitch9682 you one of krankies sheep? 😂😂😂🤡
Scotland isn’t that poor, because everything gets paid by England.
The UK Government will not allow another referendum.
To be fair the last one was only 2 years before the Brexit one!!
I don't see there being another Brexit referendum any time soon either!!
Now Cornwall breaking away 🙂🙂
Who believes what Sturgeon says? You would have to be bonkers! 😂😂😂😂
Given Scotland's huge natural resources and trading comparisons the EU will jump at the chance to fast track our membership. Again our Unionist friendly DR fails to mention that while yes Scotland would have to 'commit' to joining the Euro many recent member states still use their own currency and in any event we would have to first join the ERM which again is entirely voluntary. It surely just can't be editorial ignorance that prevents the DR and other nationalist media giving accurate news reports in Scotland.
Your delusional. The eu dont want another Greece on their hands. Scotland has to much debt and problems, plus they dont like Sturgeon.
@@craphat1873 I lived in Germany for 27 years and believe me they do not want another debt-ridden country to join the EU as it would mean more taxes for them.
@@carlpearce2252 Mate, are you Ex Cavalry or possibly infantry?
@@craphat1873 what debt..? Scotland doesn't have debt, it belongs to UK !! 🤣🤣
What are these vast natural resources
Indyref2 NOW ‼️
2 guys back and forth in a Micky mouse parliament good to watch 🤣🏴🇬🇧
The bus down to England isn’t expensive 🤷♂️ go be with the non “mickey mouse” one and you can shove your Union Jack up your arse on the way.
EU: Please stay, we’re better together..
UK: Screw you, we’re leaving..
UK: Please stay, we’re better together
SCOTLAND: Screw you, we’re leaving..
POETIC JUSTICE…
No we are not
Scotland deserve independence.
Were are you Ferrie
This is a case of both being wrong.
No Ferrie to-day it must have sailed into the MIST
LITTLE DIVO NEEDS GONE AS SOON ASAP. 🤑😡🇬🇧👊
Why are you putting that rag up on your request this is about Scotland
She smashed it 👏🏼
How, she didn't answer a single one of his questions? She simply does what she always does which is blame others for her disasters.
@@YouAreSleepyToo she ran rings around him 🤣
You must be watching a different video?
@@liamcronin1137 she didn’t answer a single question… just another politician that doesn’t answer hard questions.. nothing new
@@liamcronin1137 in what way? Did she answer any of his question about the EUs rules for joining and taking in Euro? No she complained about tories. What question did she give an answer to that wasn't to blame others? Give me a time stamp were she explained about anything that didn't involve blaming others? Just one will do.
Tories are desperate.
Hilarious Devolution in action. What a waste of taxpayers money.
Douglas Ross is right, it came in when the Uk left, VDL said so in the Eu parliament.
Sweden joined the EU in 1995.
Wikipedia, Sweden's Treaty of Accession of 1994 made it subject to the Treaty of Maastricht, which obliges states to join the Eurozone once they meet the necessary conditions.
Sweden maintains that joining the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM II ), participation in which for at least two years is a requirement for Euro adoption , is voluntary.
Sweden has chosen to remain outside of the ERM II which is voluntary and therefore does not meet the necessary criteria for joining the Euro.
Sweden 27 years after joining the EU still uses the krona.
Dross lied when he said it was just new members that had to give a commitment to join the Euro at some time in the future decided by the country.
Denmark negotiated an opt-out with the EU.
There are seven EU member countries that use their own currencies.
The EU has not forced any country to join the Euro.
All EU countries that joined the Euro have volunteered to join the Euro.
@@martindornan1667 VDL said it in EU parliament, after we left, so nobody would have the chance to leave, if they are in the Euro.
Why can't she admit Scotland won't be rejoining the EU as Scotland wasn't in the EU as a country it was there as part of the UK so would have to join the EU as a new member and as a new member wouldn't meet the criteria to join
Given Scotland's huge natural resources and trading comparisons the EU will jump at the chance to fast track our membership. Again our Unionist friendly DR fails to mention that while yes Scotland would have to 'commit' to joining the Euro many recent member states still use their own currency and in any event we would have to first join the ERM which again is entirely voluntary. It surely just can't be editorial ignorance that prevents the DR and other nationalist media giving accurate news reports in Scotland.
Whit are ye oan aboot? Scotland wis in the E.U. as a kintra.
She failed to counter Mr Ross's allegation. Relying instead on running down Westminster Toaries and quoting examples that don't compare with Scotland
Talking of no credibility the SNP would really dragged Scotland out of the EU in 2014
With the intention of rejoining as an independent country, was said a millions times at the time.
@@New-ye2fl but not guaranteed
@@jamiehughes5751 we got ripped out anyway. so what does it matter, hopefully Scot’s aren’t as naive in this referendum
@@New-ye2fl think the only naive ones are the nationalists
@@jamiehughes5751 Ok Jamie.
As with the whole country (UK) at the moment its fair to say we are in deep shit , but here in Scotland we have unearthed a true gem in the world of politics.
Raised on a diet of Salmond , watched BLUE&white films in secret, always dreamed of wearing a uniform ( kilt ) and even thought of growing a wee mouser, ( see the trend here) , does her sums on a chinese made calculator bought years ago from Woolies .
Yes , she has her support , just as others have had in the past but as in life , we grow up learning from previous mistakes made , whether it be personal or on a wider scale .
Sorry, but as many have commented on here, she doesnt speak for Scotland , the figures proved it before and we should have moved on but we in Scotland are now back in a state of limbo because of the preverbial "dug wi a bone" .
As mentioned at the start , we are in deep shit in 2022 and people would have more belief in a political leader that concentrated more on running a country in the "here and now" than a leader with the infatuation of of being named in a history book.
There is no point in slagging westminster when we have our own version of spitting image for all to see.
Still want to know what currency?
Sweden indeed does use its own currency but I hate to say it but Ross is right, known as the ‘Copenhagen criteria’🤔
The European Parliament says, "th-cam.com/video/C_C81Hocfv4/w-d-xo.html"
Dross is not right he said that all new members have to give a commitment to join the Euro not current members.
All EU countries have to give a commitment to join the Euro at some time in the future, current members included.
The only EU member country that negotiated an opt- out is Denmark.
What Dross didn't say was to join the Euro the country has to join the ERM II for two years.
Joining the ERM II is voluntary.
Sweden joined the EU in 1995 and gave a commitment to at some time in the future join the Euro but still uses the Krona 27 years later. Sweden uses the fact that joining the ERM II is voluntary to block joining the Euro.
There are 7 EU countries that do not use the Euro Denmark, Czech Republic, Poland, Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria and Sweden. All other EU countries have volunteered to join the Euro.
The EU has not forced any country to join the Euro, which is unlike what Dross is implying.
i have gave the Copenhagen criteria a good read and i cant find where it says a member would need to adopt the euro, can you help me out? what does it say?
@@martindornan1667 the euro is fine by me anyway
@Edward Elizabeth Hitler the euro is worth less than the pound ya spanner
The UK had a veto on the Euro! Scotland, as a new member wood have to join eventually
Yes when they decide but can go many years without taking the euro as stated in the articles you just promise when your ready, its not forced like the yoons spout.
Cool
I'm a tax payer and I voted for an independence vote
Independence is never going to happen no military no currency 80 billions worth of debt having to borrow to survive and where is the 5 billion that's missing
@@stephennisbet7392 lmao all made up nonsense from the English nationalist account..
Without Scotland's vast resources england collapses
@@stephennisbet7392 80 billion debt hahahaha who borrowed that debt it wasn't the snp?
Good for you mate... The majority didn't though.
@@monkeynews8311 yeah that's why you lot are wetting themselves denying democracy
Sturgeon would say anything to try and conn folk into voting for indepedence !! total chancer
Where's the con? Other than being tricked into staying in Westminster.
All NEW countries would HAVE to join the Euro.
All Quoted countries were already in the EU and had a VETO.
So IF, a very big IF, Scotland joins the EU, then it will be dictated to by the EU, so much for independence.
Oh and when the EU looks at how things like Ferry contracts were awarded, They will not just let it slide like Westminster!
Did you invent this in the last 90mins or did you get this fiction from someplace else?
Well that's not actually true is it, countries are asked to agree to the Euro in principle but the Euro is not forced on any country is the FACT and do you know why you have some "UNNAMED" so called EU people offering an opinion? It's because the EU has not even discussed it, they are not allowed to, they are not allowed by their own Laws and Directives , they would be breaking their own rules to make any comment on a foreign country that is not yet even independent never mind applying for membership, this article in the Times and Ross are liars speading the Project Fear lies yet again, but I think you'll find this time you don't get to con or fool the Scottish people twice
Read the Copenhagen Criteria for candidate members of the EU, Point 3 is Monetary Union, the Euro.
Haha Robert, a ferry issue is no reason to stop EU membership. Considering the SNP saved the yard from going bust. Also the UK has not implemented proper EU checks, the UK customs are a shambles.
Its not mandatory Robert.
Sturgeon the biggest liar in Scotland 😡😡😡😡😡
SNP, cackling kids
So Sturgeons defense of causing economic hardship on the citizens is, well the tories did it! 🤣
She talks like the brexiteers did, exaggerated, out of context claims that ignore the real issues that happen when you leave an economic partnership and try to start over, and Scotland needs to start from scratch, new banks and currency on top of new laws and trading partnerships and years working out agreements and borders.
Eire have done it along with many other nations and have prospered.
@@paparobbo62 many doesnt mean all.
Exaggerated, out of context and ignoring other facts and examples.
3 out of 3 well done 👏
62 countries have gained their independence from Westminster for example Republic of Ireland, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc.
Many other countries around the world have gained their independence for example Norway from Sweden, Czech Republic and Slovakia etc. All these countries have a currency defence forces and trade with other countries. For a country to be Independent is normal. To be a country like Scotland controlled by a neighbouring country is abnormal.
Most small independent western European countries are richer by GDP per capita than the UK.
@@martindornan1667 Germany is the only european country with a larger economy than the UK. Scotland contributes less than 10% to the UK's economy.
If the GDP per capita is "larger" in "small" european countries, thats because they have far less people for the companies that are based there for tax breaks, like luxembourg which has more companies than people.
Ive also just looked, there are 11 eu countries with higher GDP per capita, apart from Germany the next closest to our population is sweden with 10M people about 15% of the UKs populatiom, so yes if they have 16% of the UKs money they will have a higher GDP per capita, but it doesnt mean anything, Qatar is number 1, you have places like Brunie and plenty more places.
Lets not forget 3 facts.
1. The UK was formed by a Scottish king
2. If it was down to Scotland in 1972, we wouldnt have even joined the EU, with Scotland having votes as low as 30% to join.
3. Until the SNP came to power Scotland has more immigration from the UK and commonwealth than the rest of the world combined and that the UK has been Scotlands biggest trader for over 300 years until 2021, when Scotland started to withdraw from the EU with the UK and for some reason now Scotland isnt in the EU, they are trading more than ever before with the EU at 50% trade to the EU for the very first time in history...
So 1 of 2 things must be happening, Scotland is intentionally reducing their trade with their largest economic partner or Scotland is better off out of the EU.
Which one is it?
I keep repeating myself, but an independent Scotland meant that we were then out of the EU, as it was a UK membership. No doubt I will get replies from the usual cult members saying otherwise but this is fact. We'll use monopoly money Ms Sturgeon!
With the intention of rejoining as an independent country,, was said a million times at the time,
@@New-ye2fl And how many times do you have to hear, due to Spain and Romania you are not getting in. When the shit hit the fan, and your weekly income is affected you would be begging the UK to let you back in. You should separate football from politics! 🏴🇬🇧
@@robertleitch9682 The EU have already said an independent Scotland would be welcomed back into the EU, Spain has never once claimed it would veto an independent Scotland joining, your head is full of utter pish, usual yoon 🥱
the same e.u that had a saltire up in brussels the week england dragged us out????
@@raycroal Delusional pal!🏴🇬🇧👑
Let scotland pay for sturgeon
She is right
Fuck all of this, what really matters is what happened to June Brown from Dundee?
At first I thought she had all of this under control and that she knew what she was talking about, but joining the Euro is more of a requirement than joining Schengen , and that is fact, and espeically for Scotland where they want to remain within the free movement of British Isles agreement rather joining Schengen (just like the Republic of Ireland, yet it's in the EU, but they haven't joined Schengen, and don't plan to, but they still have the Euro cause they have to since being an EU state) and that's fine, but they should know that; I saw the first conference of her book release that she wrote about the steps after independence and rejoining the EU to grow and develop Scotland, but how is she going to miss out the crucial point of having the same currency as that of other powerful states (France, Germany, Netherlands, or even neighbours, such as Ireland) to attract foreign investment into Scotland, I think that that is crucial!
Edward what the hell are you trying to say.
Given Scotland's huge natural resources and trading comparisons the EU will jump at the chance to fast track our membership. Again our Unionist friendly DR fails to mention that while yes Scotland would have to 'commit' to joining the Euro many recent member states still use their own currency and in any event we would have to first join the ERM which again is entirely voluntary. It surely just can't be editorial ignorance that prevents the DR and other nationalist media giving accurate news reports in Scotland.
so you want austerity for ever is that crucial to you?, you want 150 per week pension and not 400 per week? the english government have abused the working classes for 2 centuries, do you think it is going to change soon? to stay in the union is to vote for austerity for the rest of your life, be brave vote yes
Nothing worth having comes easy. She is more credible than all the Tories put together
When Ireland adopted the euro it wasn't mandatory the UK and afew other countries kept their own currency but as far as I know any new country joining the EU now has to adopt the euro though they may have a transition period again not full shure.
It's all very well arguing about all this.... I can't forget the hostiliy and uncertainty the last time, a horrible feeling that we were unbelievably and blindly being driven to separation. Absolutely no good can come of this, possibly decades of austerity and turmoil. We owe it to our children NOT to go ahead with any of this! For goodness sake we already HAVE a devolved pariament, countless freebies paid for by the UK government, Apologies for going on.
Apology not accepted but yes your ignorance is simply breathtaking
Open yer eyes 👀 look around you Scotland needs freedom our kids deserve independence than be ruled by a criminal cabal down south all smoke n mirrors rather be run by ourselves ty
We NEED independence. It is a necsessity. The uncertainty is staying with Westminster
The government? Us ! We pay
@@AndrewWilsonStooshie You must truly hate Scotland. Shame on you.
As someone who is not Scottish, reading some of these comments is painful. Scots are clever people. Given some of the greatest things to the world. Three of my four grandparents rolled their Rs, were the full square sausage as you say, and this comment section seems to be full of the bottom of the barrel of Scotland, so it is somewhat traumatic when people with such a lovely accent, speak with such stupidity. .
I have no dog in this fight, as an Australian, but I DID live in the EU near on for three years. Specifically, Denmark. A country which negotiated a number of Opt-Outs when joining the EU, one of which, of course, was CURRENCY. There was a list of directives about a currency union back then TOO... but Denmark went ahead and said they felt that should be negotiable, and the EU agreed.
Sweden of course, did NOT, but, like Denmark, does NOT use the Euro, because the prerequisite period of two years in the economic region group, allows for VOLUNTARY currency adoption... and therefore, thereafter, so Sweden cites, their EU membership, and agreement at some point in time in the future to USE the Euro, is, also, then, VOLUNTARY, since it was predicated on a voluntary protocol. Thus, they have not adopted the Euro for 27 years and counting.
BOTH of these options are absolutely OPEN to Scotland, should it choose independence and readmission to the EU. The EU WANTS European nations to join. They would see it as HUGE win, to have effectively, both Northern Ireland, AND a newly Independent Scotland as part of the EU. EVERYTHING about that process would be, IS, because there is PRECEDENT to SHOW this, NEGOTIABLE.
Not that it would matter one iota anyway. With independence, Scotland would need a new currency anyway. Scottish Pounds are a thing, sure, but the Euro would work JUST as well, if not better. But Scotland deciding to go for the former, WOULD NOT, in ANY WAY, be disqualifying from their admission to the EU. I do not know where some you Scots get your information, but ignorance on display in this comment section is mind boggling.
Or perhaps it just straw clutching disingenuousness. If you are a Unionist, just say you are that, that you do not wish to dissolve the Union. Don't lie about the EU and Currency and such, make up bullshit stories to try to play scare tactics, and put anyone who might be open to such, off the idea of independence, by lies and deceit. No Scot should be a coward, but if you do that, YOU ARE.
I never want independence
too bad
that was brutal from the first minister
The First Minister is correct about the incompetent, flip-flopping London Tory branch office manager in Scotland three jobs Dross.
Dross as I call him coudnae make up his mind between a pie or a meringue .... I dross your right it was a pie... maybe he's is wrong again it's a yum yum.
It is what she does best, she lies or she forgets
Jimmy krankie is a joke she's does personal attacks
Sturgeon is a Liar !
Lmao a brigade account lol every sturgeon video you muppets are there with your fake profiles
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 snpvoters arepaedophiles , why else would you turn a blind eye to your party asking kids about anal sex ?
@@sankacoffey8798 where are the missing files on Tory establishment peadophilia that Theresa may mysteriously lost eh answer that one
@@sankacoffey8798 you Therese Coffey's mum
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 how do you know that it’s fake awww do you not like anyone standing up to your dear leader
With the UK apart of the EU... Yes if Scotland left the UK at that time, Scotland would also be leaving the EU.
What do you not get about that?
And the "party" that took us out of the EU... I believe it was the PEOPLE who voted.
FYI when the UK joined the EU in 1972, Scotland was the only area that had votes to join the EU as low as 30-40%. So if it was up to the opinion of Scotland back then, then Scotland would have never joined.
Maist o the people wha votit in this kintra, votit to stey in the E.U..
They are all lying and none are on the people's side, just playing a game with us. Klaus Swarb is the leader they bow down to, not them
What us independent about hooking up with the EU
Because joining the eu is a trade and law union. Each country keeps their flag and identity while trade border crossing and laws are created by the eu. You also got loans for increasing infrastructure. None of this takes your independence. The eu flag flies high beside your countries.
The EU brings Europe together for trade and financial benefits.
The uk brings countries together but takes their independence by implementing a monarch and an anthem for the uk. Its not the Scottish flag or Welsh represented on the international Stage its the union jack
@@user-ze8yy8jg1f Still isn't independence though is it
@@angiemccorry683 there's a lot of difference type ls of independence. Are you talking about financial independence? Then none of us are independent because we rely on each other.
If your talking about our countries independence then yes we are independent our government is in Dublin and they swear an ought to the irish constitution.
I feel that we as a nation should unite more now than ever Its the politicians who are making such a mess of things and giving themselves massive wages and never listening to their people The governments are corrupt and its obvious Time for a complete overhaul The UK people are good ots the politicians who ruin everything with their greed self importance and corrupt natures
The issue with all of this is, it will never be resolved. Many people don't like Nicola Sturgeon, but will keep her in power to stop any other party getting in. It's a stalemate. The SNP wants Scotland to become Independent to run it's own affairs but will have to adopt EU policies that will affect how Scotland is run. This was the very reason why The UK departed The EU in the first place. Sturgeon should concentrate on running Scotland, using independence money on Health, Education, drugs and other priorities.
Again your ignorance is simply breathtaking but yes she is simply brilliant disliked by Unionists who want to continue to siphon off our wealth.
We all know she ignores the health and wellness of the Scot’s she’s not interested all she want’s through or high water is independence and hopefully her name in the history book’s as the little woman who split the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 up and dragged the Scottish people out , it all to make her relevant,
The UK left the EU and is more or less a vastle state to the currency markets scence didn't you see last week your primminister having to shelve her budget sack her chancellor of the excheckor and then resign herself.
Personally I think Scotland leaving would bring even more damage to itself and the wider UK except northern Ireland by leaving the UK without a plan they should learn from Brexit.
She's done nothing but for the last 10 years.
Given Scotland's huge natural resources and trading comparisons the EU will jump at the chance to fast track our membership. Again our Unionist friendly DR fails to mention that while yes Scotland would have to 'commit' to joining the Euro many recent member states still use their own currency and in any event we would have to first join the ERM which again is entirely voluntary. It surely just can't be editorial ignorance that prevents the DR and other nationalist media giving accurate news reports in Scotland.
How is it possible that a bunch of english decide for the future of Scotland ?
The fact is, Sturgeon lied to the Scottish people. It comes from the EU: If you don't except the Euro, you don't get to join the club.
Are you mental??? You know that there are many EU membership countries that do not use the Euro right?!
Listen to Nicola's reply
No she didn't