Idk how I haven’t gotten tired of hearing them fight over which daw is better 😂😂. They pretty much spend 1/3 of each episode talking about their daws and I love it
My first experience with FL was with the first one. I hated it and refused to touch it until..... FL20. As an almost 20 year user of Protocols, FL is SOLID.
Coming back to say L.J. is right! Stock plugins in a DAW are only the ones made by the company of that DAW. If they’re in partnership with another company to host their plugins it’s an add-on (like Melodyne Essentials in Pro-Tools).
I'm with Devvon when it comes to stock. Think of it like this. When you buy a car from the dealership the tires are from Michellon, or Goodyear, the lights from China, radio from JVC, Crutchfield, or Alpine, yet when you get that car off the lot everything in it is considered stock because that's how you bought it. If I buy a DAW and it comes with an assortment of plugins those are stock plugins because I didn't have to do anything extra other than buy and install the DAW.
Stock Plug-Ins can also be created in Cooperation with other Companies. Ableton Operator was developed by Ableton, but Live also comes with Analog, Collision, Electric and Tension by AAS, Glue Compressor by Cytomic and lots of integrated Max for Live Devices by different Developers - and they 're all Stock or Native Devices.
The term ya'll were looking for was " machine learning " which is not AI. ozone is machine learning style, you cant tell ozone to create a new genre style of mastering on spot for example. Now chat GPT can solve problems and learn/adjust information on the spot which is "like human"... A.I.
Wait does pro tools have a master channel ? Like how FL does ? Or do you have to make one . I’m confused . When I watch tutorials and I hear “ master bus “ I get lost . Because in fl it’s just there already . Plus I tried putting them Nls bus on all my inserts plus my “ master channel “ and it was kinda crunchy . So somebody tell me, do you have to make your own buses in pro tools ?
the problem with that 'DAW's sound the same'. Is they just bounce a finished WAV. The argument for me is that you won't get to the same end sound if you make a song. How the DAW processes Mono to Stereo and back. The stock FX. How the DAW presents arranging and processing to you. How it deals with external FX and parallel processing. How it samples and deals with time stretching. Which stock fx sound the best. All these things mean that the DAW's do in fact sound different, as they'll lead you to a different sound. The 1's & 0's behind every sonic decision are different. I went from Reason to Ableton and they just sound so different. How they handle stereo and the fidelity of the stock synths/fx mean that Ableton just always sounds better to my ears. They do NOT sound the same. Ofc if I bounce a finished WAV with exact settings they'll sound the same, that's not really the argument tho imo.
When I upgraded from FL Studio 11 to 20 I stopped using the step sequencer because the way they redesigned the send to piano roll function and looping I just couldnt get into that workflow (send to piano roll notes all weird now and the expand sequencer to 8/16/32 is weird too, the looping mode sucks). They had it perfect in FL 11 idk why they decided to do that change. Now I never use the step sequencer, only the piano roll.
Yo I don't know if yall gave Court coffee or what but that was the most vocal and energetic he's ever been and I'm here for it. 💪🏾, side note studio 1 still the best just saying...
I think you guys were confusing the terms "AI" and "Automation". They're technically different things. Automation is teaching computers to follow pre-defined parameters. AI is teaching computers to make their own decisions with the information given to them. Automation = Limited number of predetermined conclusions AI = Unlimited number of unknown conclusions
i feel you on that, but then again maybe 5-10% of the people (at most) who attended NAMM are hip to the podcast, so i think this was a great ‘Ad’ if you like,they gotta give the live audience a taste of their individual vibe & chemistry! this was smart, lets praise this move 💪🏾
I wouldn’t say Algorithms & A.I. are the same. You can program an algorithm once (and patch updates as needed), but you train A.I. over time, and it develops on its own. LJ was right in reading the definition but the better conclusion to draw from it is that like human intelligence, the more information it takes in, the more it (whatever “it” is) will adapt and change.
FL got the best stock plugin wtf y'all smoking let's not forget new plug-in every two years or so with the free update.We need Monte booker to come represent for FL. Homie keeps saying the three plug-ins everybody knows
so Avid gang jumped L.J😂and homie didn't make it at home because there is no way you survived with those hot takes anyway FL Signature gang🔥from south africa
Reaper gang. (Routing stupid simple and the versatility is unmatched. I can put MIDI, WAV, and MP4 *on the same track* if I wanted I ever found a reason to.)
STUDIO ONE IS EASIEST TO ROUTE. DEVVON, COURTNEY AND LJ YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO CHECK OUT STUDIO ONE. FULL DRAG AND DROP CAPABILITY. IT HAS PATTERN MODE (STEP SEQUENCER LIKE FL STUDIO FOR YEARS, IT HAS THE LOOP AND FILE BROWSER LIKE LOGIC. ALOT OF THE FUNCTIONALITY IS JUST LIKE LOGIC. STUDIO ONE WAS DESIGNED BY STEINBERG DESIGNERS. PRESONUS LISTENS TO ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS FOR NEW SUGGESTIONS. THEY ALWAYS INCORPORATE THE FEATURES MUSICIANS ASK FOR IN THE NEXT NUMBER VERSION. ONCE STUDIO ONE HAS MORE INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED ITS A WRAP. DEVVON, I HAVE BEEN A LOYAL AVID USER. STARTED WITH PRO TOOLS IN 2002, SO I HAVE 20 YEARS + EXPERIENCE USING PRO TOOLS. TAKE MY WORD, STUDIO ONE BLOWS PRO TOOLS OUT THE WATER IN SPEED WORKFLOW. ROUTING IS THE SIMPLEST. YOU NEVER HAVE TO CHANGE A PAGE IN STUDIO ONE. AT THE PRESS OF A BUTTON YOU CAN CHANGE FROM THE MIXER BROWSER OR EDITOR. I AGREE WITH LJ THAT NATIVE INSTRUMENTS HAVE OUTPUT TYPE SOUNDS, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAY SERIES. NI IS UNTOUCHABLE.
This the loudest I ever heard Courtney talk, he was definitely vibing🔥🔥
Idk how I haven’t gotten tired of hearing them fight over which daw is better 😂😂. They pretty much spend 1/3 of each episode talking about their daws and I love it
This my first time sitting through it. It's like arguing why your bed is more comfortable. Pointless banter lol.
Fr 😂
I hope there’s a part 2 to this episode. This quickly became one of my favorite podcasts 🔥
man hearing all of this just confirms that studio one is the best DAW
What a great NAMM bro. Sad I couldn’t see any of this. I was working the UE Booth :/
Wow this is so huge lol.. Congrats y'all.. Keep it goin.. Y'all are actually leading everything and boy is it gonna pay off!
Edison+Fruity Slicer. Edison is definitely a sampler IMO
I been slacking on my beats haha gonna restart doing it cuz of y'all podcast 😁
makes me happy to see y’all doing big stuff like this. congrats guys!
Yall should've named this episode "DAW WARS" lmao
At 24:50y’all finna get them boys from halftime in trouble 😭
Protools finally getting all these new "old" features like melodyne🤣🤣...shoutout to AVID lol
Been waiting for this epi to drop! I gotta go next year 😭
oh we see the motion Glad to see y'all movin & getting heard out here keep goin don't let go of the gas pedal!!!
My first experience with FL was with the first one. I hated it and refused to touch it until..... FL20. As an almost 20 year user of Protocols, FL is SOLID.
not for mixing or tracking...
@@thestreetdisciple3955 what do you mean exactly 'not for mixing' ?
Coming back to say L.J. is right!
Stock plugins in a DAW are only the ones made by the company of that DAW. If they’re in partnership with another company to host their plugins it’s an add-on (like Melodyne Essentials in Pro-Tools).
Keep lt up yall 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
REASON HAS BEST ROUTING WITH ACTUAL CABLES
Off topic: How can I block Unison ads from showing up forever??
I'm with Devvon when it comes to stock. Think of it like this. When you buy a car from the dealership the tires are from Michellon, or Goodyear, the lights from China, radio from JVC, Crutchfield, or Alpine, yet when you get that car off the lot everything in it is considered stock because that's how you bought it. If I buy a DAW and it comes with an assortment of plugins those are stock plugins because I didn't have to do anything extra other than buy and install the DAW.
What video is Devvon referring to with the Jaycen and Dave “Going Bad” limitless plugin?
Congrats on everything!
Stock Plug-Ins can also be created in Cooperation with other Companies. Ableton Operator was developed by Ableton, but Live also comes with Analog, Collision, Electric and Tension by AAS, Glue Compressor by Cytomic and lots of integrated Max for Live Devices by different Developers - and they 're all Stock or Native Devices.
Where is the beheinger booth😂😂
I love how yall be clowning the DAWs. The real audio nerds be having these same roast sessions in the studio LOL
lol nah why you violated Studio One , ima be behind the stage next year scheming with a Fader port ! 🤣🤣🤣
Reason might be comp for best stock instruments.
Luna might actually have the best sound baked into its DAW framework.
The term ya'll were looking for was " machine learning " which is not AI. ozone is machine learning style, you cant tell ozone to create a new genre style of mastering on spot for example. Now chat GPT can solve problems and learn/adjust information on the spot which is "like human"... A.I.
Yall are busy!!! Taped this the same day as Decap and LDre??? I see you boys!!!
Wait does pro tools have a master channel ? Like how FL does ? Or do you have to make one . I’m confused . When I watch tutorials and I hear “ master bus “ I get lost . Because in fl it’s just there already . Plus I tried putting them Nls bus on all my inserts plus my “ master channel “ and it was kinda crunchy . So somebody tell me, do you have to make your own buses in pro tools ?
Great work Guys🔥🔥🔥💯
Was great meeting you guys 💪🏽😁
the problem with that 'DAW's sound the same'. Is they just bounce a finished WAV. The argument for me is that you won't get to the same end sound if you make a song. How the DAW processes Mono to Stereo and back. The stock FX. How the DAW presents arranging and processing to you. How it deals with external FX and parallel processing. How it samples and deals with time stretching. Which stock fx sound the best. All these things mean that the DAW's do in fact sound different, as they'll lead you to a different sound. The 1's & 0's behind every sonic decision are different. I went from Reason to Ableton and they just sound so different. How they handle stereo and the fidelity of the stock synths/fx mean that Ableton just always sounds better to my ears. They do NOT sound the same. Ofc if I bounce a finished WAV with exact settings they'll sound the same, that's not really the argument tho imo.
Shoutout to the viewers/listeners that immediately said to themselves "Y'all had this Super DAW already." 😂😂😂 #LogicIsTheWay
Other DAWs vs FL Studio 😂😂
Congrats 🔥🔥🔥
When I upgraded from FL Studio 11 to 20 I stopped using the step sequencer because the way they redesigned the send to piano roll function and looping I just couldnt get into that workflow (send to piano roll notes all weird now and the expand sequencer to 8/16/32 is weird too, the looping mode sucks). They had it perfect in FL 11 idk why they decided to do that change. Now I never use the step sequencer, only the piano roll.
Studio One Routing is amazing and playlisting
😂😂😂this was a cool episode
Yo I don't know if yall gave Court coffee or what but that was the most vocal and energetic he's ever been and I'm here for it. 💪🏾, side note studio 1 still the best just saying...
Lol they arguing about the stock/add on plugins again 🤣😆
Studio One is definitely the 🐐 for routing
ABLETON ALL DAY!!! Lets GO! most folks use FL cause you can easily get a cracked version
LJ is right about stock plugins. And the best stock plugins
SECOND!!
Baby audio is my spirit animal
Yo this is dope
Studio One’s routing is fire. Y’all sleep.
From an FL user I say you’re right
they really sleep lol
There's literally nothing in pro tools you can't do in studio one when it comes to routing and the mixer. But you can't say the same in reverse
I think you guys were confusing the terms "AI" and "Automation". They're technically different things. Automation is teaching computers to follow pre-defined parameters. AI is teaching computers to make their own decisions with the information given to them.
Automation = Limited number of predetermined conclusions
AI = Unlimited number of unknown conclusions
Agreed.
I normally love this podcast, but I feel like I’ve seen this episode already 😢
i feel you on that, but then again maybe 5-10% of the people (at most) who attended NAMM are hip to the podcast, so i think this was a great ‘Ad’ if you like,they gotta give the live audience a taste of their individual vibe & chemistry! this was smart, lets praise this move 💪🏾
I wouldn’t say Algorithms & A.I. are the same. You can program an algorithm once (and patch updates as needed), but you train A.I. over time, and it develops on its own. LJ was right in reading the definition but the better conclusion to draw from it is that like human intelligence, the more information it takes in, the more it (whatever “it” is) will adapt and change.
this was dope
I had to make my startup template to (Empty)😅
🔥 🔥
There was Def some shade thrown fl's way, but it's cool yall know we got it
Please drop the rest of the footage
FL got the best stock plugin wtf y'all smoking let's not forget new plug-in every two years or so with the free update.We need Monte booker to come represent for FL. Homie keeps saying the three plug-ins everybody knows
Arturia would be the best for stock plugins. they have mixing and also production plugins like synths, pianos, etc.
Can you guys talk about Reasons?
Anything that comes standard with anything not just plugins is STOCK lol Gross is a STOCK FL STUDIO plugin
Pro tools all the way
Reason has the best stock instruments
Lol waves
AI is all automation but not all automation is AI
We up
so Avid gang jumped L.J😂and homie didn't make it at home because there is no way you survived with those hot takes anyway FL Signature gang🔥from south africa
Elastic audio has swing
Edison is the goat
You all never talk about cubase. Which competes with all 3 of you daws on every level
Fl just has a more fluid routing system no cap 🧢
fab filter being a stock plugin on any DAW would make me cheat on my FL no cap!
really enjoyed this episode keep em comin
keep the piano roll. i never use a step sequencer
Reaper gang. (Routing stupid simple and the versatility is unmatched. I can put MIDI, WAV, and MP4 *on the same track* if I wanted I ever found a reason to.)
Nah! Neutron and Ozone are AI formatted!
Fl sampler
You can change the sound of FLs metronome to any wave file you want
I don't expect a Pro Tools user to get Ableton or FL Studio. Production is not the strength of Pro Tools
nah vocal rider GOTTA BE ai
fourth!
Courtney looks like a TDolla$ign jr... is that his son?
Love y’all but u trippin not having someone representing Logic tho
First
The best recording DAW is Reaper.
Bro have yall not heard of RipX? I'ts better than any stem splitting software
Am I the only one who feels like some of these topics were scripted?
a
No offense but Courtney don’t be representing ableton fr. Ableton does have dark mode😭
That not AI. Most of what you guys are discussing and describing is PROGRAMMING.
It's an add on
The big dude doesnt belong here man xD He doesnt know how to debate at all . He just wants to cut the convo when he disagree 😂😂😂
STUDIO ONE IS EASIEST TO ROUTE. DEVVON, COURTNEY AND LJ YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO CHECK OUT STUDIO ONE. FULL DRAG AND DROP CAPABILITY. IT HAS PATTERN MODE (STEP SEQUENCER LIKE FL STUDIO FOR YEARS, IT HAS THE LOOP AND FILE BROWSER LIKE LOGIC. ALOT OF THE FUNCTIONALITY IS JUST LIKE LOGIC. STUDIO ONE WAS DESIGNED BY STEINBERG DESIGNERS. PRESONUS LISTENS TO ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS FOR NEW SUGGESTIONS. THEY ALWAYS INCORPORATE THE FEATURES MUSICIANS ASK FOR IN THE NEXT NUMBER VERSION. ONCE STUDIO ONE HAS MORE INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED ITS A WRAP. DEVVON, I HAVE BEEN A LOYAL AVID USER. STARTED WITH PRO TOOLS IN 2002, SO I HAVE 20 YEARS + EXPERIENCE USING PRO TOOLS. TAKE MY WORD, STUDIO ONE BLOWS PRO TOOLS OUT THE WATER IN SPEED WORKFLOW. ROUTING IS THE SIMPLEST. YOU NEVER HAVE TO CHANGE A PAGE IN STUDIO ONE. AT THE PRESS OF A BUTTON YOU CAN CHANGE FROM THE MIXER BROWSER OR EDITOR. I AGREE WITH LJ THAT NATIVE INSTRUMENTS HAVE OUTPUT TYPE SOUNDS, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAY SERIES. NI IS UNTOUCHABLE.