Fitness isn't Fatphobia
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FC is gradually getting too old for this shit
Gradually?
@@irok1 yea gradually that’s how age works
*Everyone* is too old for Annie's garbage.
@Joshua Ahn I think the video said 21
@@Buggy_DClown yooooo it’s buggy d clown from one piece
Volkeh being the villain that saves the heroes when another villain shows up is peak comedy.
couldn't have said it better
Volkeh redemption arc when?
@@christopherbravo1813 Never, probably. Volkeh is a POS, and he's proud of that fact.
@@turtlelord8021 I said it as a joke?
@@christopherbravo1813 I know that fact, I was just stating the truth, I didn't intend for it to be rude though.
Annie really said Adele was an idol for fat women because "she was beautiful *despite* being fat" and then accused everyone else of internalized fatphobia 😂
LITERALLY 🤣 it reminds me of “nooo you’re not fat, you’re beautiful!”
mf they said they’re fat, not ugly lmfao
Projection and Annie go together like bacon and eggs.
I feel like it's easier to just call people beautiful and call out their strengths
I would agree, but I'm not sure there's a better way of phrasing the point Annie was trying to make, that Adele was an idol even though society at large may have issues with her weight. Saying "despite" is more about society's beliefs about being fat than Annie's beliefs about being fat.
ill agree with that one . . . as soon as i can find a better way to word it . . . (also i missed that the first time) *some fking time later* "Adele was viewed for as beautiful as they were despite societies disaproval of fat people, and thats why she was such an idol . . ." (im not doing more i did the thing.)
Cleo is an absolute queen. Not just funny and smart, but a model of empathy that so many of us could stand to learn from.
True. Cleo is a genuinely good person, and holy fuck she did not need to be dragged into all of this.
definitely
I did not expect Volkeh to pop out of the blue and go against Annie. Truly a clash of the ages.
Watch it at 1.5x speed, it only gets funnier the faster you replay their back-and-forth. Total chaos.
For those who need the timestamp: 29:39
🎶🎵 _it is the ultimate showdown_ 🎵🎶
In one way, he sorta came to the rescue, i know it's not the real reason he appeared, but his entrance was too perfect, then he started throwing insults to Annie, and completely ignoring Phoebe and FC.
It's like Frieza suddenly appearing to fight with Goku and Vegeta vs Jiren, amazing stuff.
I was genuinely crying laughing
I loved it when Volkeh showed up in the video and said "It's Volkeh-ing time" and started roasting Annie and spamming racial slurs
I normally don't like posts in this style but, hey, it's actually doing something different aside from the usual copy-paste style.
When two villains clash there is no bad outcome
Truly one of the arguments of all time
AKA Volkehing all over the place
i liked and got the 621st like 😳😱
I don't I'm gonna make it, comrades
"It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, it's damn near impossible to win an argument against a stupid person."
This argument at the end is what happens when 2 stupid people are pitted against each other
@@MostlyJustWhipGaming no not two stupid people, a degenerate* and a stupid person, this is Volkeh we are talking about he is one step below the usual idiots (on a scale where the lowest cant be saved from their own idiocy to actually normal people)
@@MostlyJustWhipGamingunstoppable force vs immovable object
@@itrashcant7947immovable is right with her gravitational pull
@@itrashcant7947 So Luigi Cadorna meeting Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf? How many battles was it? Twelve?
Every time she goes on a massive rant, remember: She's doing this because two nerds on the internet teased each other and made a joke about literal cows.
Healthy nerds at that
HOW DARE THEY INSULT THE COWS THIS IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE. THEY MUST GO TO JAIL FOR BEING COWIPHOBIC
@@SirProud don’t you mean *udderly* unacceptable?
@@sadflix8754 god damnit, take my like and leave
@@sadflix8754 I laughed too long at this
Funny thing is, Annie's character isn't even fat, she just got a REALLY thick coat on!
@@snowblizzard7623 The Halloween video we released before this uses exclusively the music from Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton. Just be warned that there is a rain sound effect that is glitched on that video, and depending on your device it will sound normal and pleasant, or like a static nightmare.
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence just like real rain
Ironic for such thin skin as well
Coat? It’s a bunch of rats, mate
@@ilovecairns5181 I know that. I just didn't want to state that incase no one has played the game, or got to that point in the video. Also, it's not rats, but either a ferret or a weasel.
"I was wrong. You're not greedy. You're batshit INSANE."
FC quoting Raiden was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Timestamp?
@@umadbro2561 24:36
Just want to point out that Cleophoebs was a girl boss throughout this, despite being insulted she still managed to show empathy for the other, something I really respect
when you're confident in yourself being insulted doesnt mean sh1t
@@ngnxtan people don’t always show empathy for people who insult them even if they are confident in themselves
i wouldnt call racial slurs and hurling all kinds of other insults at people and shaming them for their bodies while going on a tirade about body shaming empathy in any way.
i honestly would feel more empathy for a serial killer than for her
@@penmaster7863 you're thinking of the wrong person.
Yeah , she sounds like an awsome person , i also hope annie seeks help
okay but phoebs stopping to ask annie at one point if she was genuinely okay made my heart melt shes so sweet
right? you never know sometimes, it's good to be sure :)
i think it's safe to say that annie is very much NOT ok
Tbh, I don't buy for a second that she isn't suicidal. It's actually painful seeing just how unwell Annie is mentally and I seriously hope she gets some help soon because this is not how people who are a safe distance away from the edge act.
@@Excelsior1937 nah, being that mentally unwell doesn't automatically make you suicidal, especially if you are filled with so much delusion
Based on the video I would guess she's not in a spot that you can actually define (if that makes sense). It was not long since she dedicated herself to lose weight and she felt bad about it, only recently she's glorifying being fat. Those are big changes in lifestyle and personality on the span of a month more or less, pretty short. Went from sad to loud in such a short time.
In other words, I find it hard to say she's suicidal right now, I can fully expect that she in the next day, or few days, or so, will probably feel and act very different than she did here.
@@fieray21 No need to call in Michael Jackson am I right?
I'd like to imagine that as soon as FC saw *Volkeh is typing...* he was like "Ah shit", knowing Volkeh was about to somehow rile up Annie even more than she was already
A year late, but I could imagien that the argument between FC, Chleo and Annie is going on, and all of a sudden there's a brief flash of a silouette of Volkeh's character model. Then the screen goes black and the text slowly scrolls with an echo
" . . . V o l k e h i s t y p i n g . . . "
To which FC and Chleo go "Oh no..."
@@DoktorVicTimHoly shit, I just laughed my ass off reading that
Volkeh: *You dare challenge Volkeh*
Annie: *This server isn't big enough for two super villains*
Volkeh: *oh you're a villain alright, just not a SUPER one!*
Annie: *Oh yea? What's the difference?*
Volkeh: *Does what volkeh does best, spam racial slurs*
Simply beautiful. Get this man a grammy.
I loved it when volkeh said “it’s volkehing time” and volkeh'd all over the place
@@no-good_oddity Not again…
I mean, Annie proved herself perfectly capable of slinging plenty of slurs herself, albeit to no where near the degree that Volk is known for
@@no-good_oddity Truly, a scene of all time
“Walking all the way around you to talk behind your back would not go unnoticed for the same reason the Tour de France is an internationally known event”
Y’know what im stealing that one
This one made me fall of my chair
The moment in question is at 4:25 for those who are interested.
that line floored me harder than getting squashed by annie 💀💀
"It's a rejection of narcissism."
*Proceeds to immediately post selfies of herself proving FC'S point*
Honestly, Cleophoebs sounds like such a caring person. Wanting to offer a ear for suicidal talks to a person that have been spamming slurs and insults to them the past 20 minutes. Bravo
I agree, and it was an hour and a half at that point
Exactly, i really like her, very kind
God bless Cleo.
Agreed!
Cleo says Adele makes a good example for others, which is true. But she does make a great example to follow herself.
I love how Annie calls FC a girl-looking man
Just to be countered with "He looks like a more good-looking gal tahn yoU"
AND THEN GETTING DEFENSIVE WITH "beauty is subjective"
Or calling Cleo a whore for simply pole dancing, and later bragging at how many men has slept with her. It's so wrong.
Volkeh actually made a semi decent point: Imagine treating yourself like shit and expecting others to treat you better
Well not everyone who's fat treats themselves like shit lol
@@IAMSONICTH3H3DG3H0G does not necessarily apply to fat people
If someone who spams racial and edgy slurs make a good point about you, rethink your life choices, think about how horrible of a person you have become, and seek mental help. (Even if it's a semi decent point you still need to rethink your own life.)
Wise point of me, based off of Baulvicork's message.
*Heartbreaking:* The Worst Person You Know Made a Decent Point
Annie: cries about bodyshaming
Also Annie: makes fun of FC's height every chance she gets
Yeah it’s utterly pathetic. I’m a staunch advocate for MAT (Mutually Assured Trolling). Everyone should be able to scream at everyone else.
And made fun of Cleophobes weight
No hypocrisy here noooo
and its WORSE because unlike with your weight, theres not much you can do to change your height
(yes, some people have different metabolisms so its hard to maintain a healthy weight, and thats unfortunate for them, but its still possible... without some kind of surgery you cant really do much to make yourself taller or shorter.)
Virtue Signalers? Being hypocritical? Imagine my shock.
She was there for 2 hours??? How do you have that much patience? French people are crazy. To talk to a rock for 2 hours is just insane.
Iirc, Bowl said that the French have impressive stamina when it comes to debating.
@@MrTheil yeah, they blow up if they don't have a debate within 4 hours of their last one.
To be fair, French people have to deal with French administration which teaches them patience at a high level. And it's not even a joke, trust me x)
@@HouSonMeiTong French people have to deal with French people
Not gonna lie I am French and it is true . We are trained from birth to argue to the death .
I know Volkeh is a gigantic prick, but the way he metaphorically came out the tunnel and started landing haymakers was gold. Also, I love the decision to let Volkeh’s character model shake as he charged up his redacted spewing of bullshit. All in all, great video, love the edits!
That's an original feature from Ace Attorney.
Ace detective and master racist
And this is the nicest way to depict Volkeh. In one Q&A video, FC said he did far worse things than just insults and graphic, racist, or edgy humor
FC: "The opposition of this principle isn't fatphobia; it's a rejection of narcissism."
Annie: *Spams selfies of herself*
Literally comedic levels of hypocrisy and proving FC's point. Like, it still surprises me how little self-awareness some people have. Great video from FC.
"Instead of trying to improve themselves, they will try to drag others down to their level"-Me when I first heard about these type of discussions.
“…and beat them with experience.”
@@VJ2099 Oh, I understood that reference.
had friends like that until recently, it's fucking insane how hard some people will try to hold you down.
Crabs in a bucket
The 'Fat Acceptance' movement in a nutshell...
“Well, of course they were twice the men she’s been with. There’s weight class for everything, and obviously you’re twice the woman she is”
That is fucking insane, this mans is crazy talented with his words
Arguing with people who think spamming slurs at the other person is a valid argument makes you really good at forming deep insults
@@warlynx5644not as deep as her gut
He's french. Just remember what Bowl said: unlimited stamina for debate.
@blueberrimuffin6682 one of the traits I envy the french for. I love debate, but just stutter too much while thinking too long to be any good at it...
@@FerisSalvo Im constantly like
BRAIN THINK FASTER YOU'RE GETTING FUCKING MOLLY WHOPPED BY THE GUY NEXT TO YOU
I shall repeat myself since I watched the unlisted version first
Volkeh and Annie talking bullshit at eachother feels like the unstoppable force Vs immovable object problem
The last one describes Annie perfectly lol
@@ramirez9317 💀💀💀
@@ramirez9317 XDD
@@ramirez9317 Yeah, in terms of her heavy... ignorance.
Couldn't agree more. The shitshow at the end was worth the price of admission alone.
29:40 The moment I saw Volkeh, I knew the place would become a warzone, everything got worse, but I gotta admit it make it so much hilarious, two dense people throwing up insults at each other, in result, an endless toxic conflict with no winners or losers.
Edit: I don't mind watching the video all over again, this is both informative and entertaining.
I'd say bystanders like us are winners, that mess was hilarious.
Volkeh thrives off of that environment, the only loser is Annie
@@TheUltraDinoboy no, it wastes both’s time.
@@feister2869 Your first mistake is thinking Volkeh has a life outside of screwing with people online
Am i the only one who thinks the timing of “and then expect people to treat you any better” being lined up with the music was just sublime?
This really went like:
“I need to go to the gym lol”
“I don’t think vegetarians get fat usually”
“Dude, cows are fat lol”
*Debbie Downer has entered the chat*
“I AM NOT FAT 😡😡😡”
“I wasn’t talking about you”
“YES YOU WERE 😡😡😡”
*Racism has entered the chat*
> You thought it was these people bullying you, but it was ME, DIO!
Actually didn't see that jojo reference coming
Nice
It's always a fuckin Jojo reference! God damn it!
She just admitted to being a cow by getting offended by those claims.
@@onlyechadtherebellious2467i mean she really only said "moo" over and over
HOLY SHIT A JOJO REFERENCE
Annie: Literally goes on a rant body shaming FC and Cleo
Cleo: You're acting a lot like those people who body shamed Adele for getting thinner.
Annie: THAT'S NOT BODY SHAMING! WHEN HAVE YOU BEEN BODY SHAMED!?
Projection at its finest
if you think about it, volkeh has to know the most about how to treat people like human beings so that he can do the exact opposite. he's the perfect person to be lecturing annie on it!
Omg, that's a perfect... statement (I guess?) The villains are the perfect doctors because they know every move that might help so they don't do it. If they didn't know all the good tactics then they might accidentally help the hero! And they don't want to do _that!_
"Why are you spamming racial slurs? With social knowledge like this, you could be a philosopher!" "But I don't WANT to be a philosopher, I want to spam racial slurs!"
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx the key to success and reaching your goals is knowing everything you'd have to do to go the opposite way. volkeh has secretly been a supervillain this whole time
@@rosefellow_681 i wonder if he'd say this tbh
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Being reminded of a ProZD skit of a villain being accidentally helpful
Cleo: (talks about how she exercises pretty much every day rotating through a variety of sports)
Annie: "I do a LOT more for my body than you two combined."
The response to that is 'Abusing your body doesn't count.'
Volkeh joining in is one of the top anime twist ever.
Which is honestly perfect, both of them are the type that argues not because for the discussion. They just want to argue and won't accept the opposing arguments.
Its like introducing the wall against the wall
**clap**
When you come to it, and you cant go do it, and you cant knock it down, you know that you found -
The Wall! *Great shield bash* The Wall! *Great shield bash* The Wall!
Metapods fight!
wall to the wall? like, lesbian sex?
@@khajiitimanus7432 MY **clap** DIET **clap** IS **clap** NONE **clap** OF **clap** YOUR **clap** BUSINESS **clap** **clap** **clap** **clap** **clap**
9:56 Translation :
Phoebs : Stop insulting her. That doesn't solve anything.
FC : Her anger will make her burn fat...
Phoebs : You're making her feel like her stupidity is justified.
FC : I know, but she's pissing me off...
Thank you, you're doing God's work.
@@rightyloosey8554 Always a pleasure.
GIVE THIS MAN A TROPHY
@@VortexF I much would rather he receive a reddit silver for his amazing efforts in translating text! Thank you kind strangers!
I shall join the translator army! Vive la langue française!
I love how she’s mad at them for “discrimination “ when she’s using slurs and discriminating against them
"She was lucky bowl wasnt there" There was something MUCH WORSE than bowl coming
She's lucky harry didn't pop in
Harry would make Annie never come back to the internet ever again
the Harry, bowl and volkeh trio would literally make her quit discord forever
@@somestupiddudewithayoutube4676 id say that with those 3, she'd probably unalive herself, but the knife and rope wouldn't find her neck and the bullet wouldn't get through the fat. /j
@@fmelo0901 and her wrist veins would be obstructed by all the blubber /abcdefghijklmnopqrstupwxyz
"you're so fat that you took one picture and then your phone ran out of space"
that one was good tho 💀💀
Volkeh is definitely better at insulting overweight people than he is with literally anything else.
@@leirbag1595 it’s a lot easier to back up stereotypes of fat people then anyone else he has beef with. He can’t properly defend any racially motivated thing he says. As they are incorrect.
But under all of Volkeh’s bullshit the foundation of his argument is actually correct. Annie is a massive individual, and she is fat. Volkeh wasn’t 100% wrong about anything he said here. Even though he went way too far tbh
It's like that one analogy, if you have a bunch of brainless monkeys typing on a keyboard, they will eventually type Shakespeare
Except just with good insults
@@TheUncivilizedNation Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Though if Volkeh was a clock he'd somehow manage to only be right once.
@@TheUncivilizedNation is it wrong that this is something I would say?
the fat shaming, not the racial slurs
Volkeh showing up last minute is like when a villain from the earlier seasons teams up with the hero to fight the new baddie
Annie: You can’t defeat me.
Faux: I know, but he can.
Volkeh: _bursts into the server spamming racial slurs and fatphobic edgy humor_
I hate that I could roughly make out the comment that cannibalism, murder and racism
Volkeh: *I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF CozyandWholesome*
A match made in *hell.*
I wanted to say volkeh was a last resort but in his case he would call himself the Final solution.
Annie: bruh, y’all really fatshaming me- wait what is that music I’m hearing?
Volkeh: *I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING*
Annie vs. Volkeh is honestly just what happens when a Lawful Evil meets a Chaotic Evil.
Who tf is the lawful one here lmao. I just see chaotic evil and stupid evil
@@cyanide167 Annie may be stupid, but she's the one acting out of a sense of high-minded moral superiority, and possesses a general holier-than-thou attitude, which are distinctly Lawful (mainly Lawful Evil) traits. Volkeh is Chaotic because he's an edgy troll at best and a genuinely intolerant bigot at worst.
@@iceaura3938 Volkeh can’t be a troll. I am 100% sure he truly means every word he says even though being shorter then FC means he can’t actually do anything he says irl. Like watching a Fat Chick fight to the death with his Pitbull over a chicken wing
Volkeh’s probably the reason there’s a stereotype for Pitbull’s mauling children. He’s worse then Florida Man
@@iceaura3938 I hope that guy's just an edgy troll
@@iceaura3938 annie is not lawful evil, she is incredibly hypocritical, I'd say volkeh is since he is atleast following some kind of logic, even if that logic is agreeing with the edgy internet hivemind's opinions
Volkeh is like the one final trap card that always wins the game but you feel scummy for using.
How Phoebe didn’t retaliate to the shit that she had thrown at her is remarkable, honestly. Any other person would have steeped into a lower level.
Agreed, Phoebe was so chill.
And then FC ruined all the progress she was trying to make by insulting Annie lmaoooo
@@Starricane he replied to ignorance and condescending behaviour with witty remarks, and eventually blunt truth.
I don’t necessarily agree with that being the correct way to handle this, but he is sure as hell entertaining to watch.
@@pgmonkeh2166 To be fair, she had it coming the moment she started hurling racial slurs at FC (all of which weren’t even correct) and shaming Phoebe for being a slut (which she isn’t).
@@Starricane There was never any progress, you can't reason with someone that isn't humble and unwilling to learn.
This had my blood boiling through-out the entire video, especially when she started talking about suicide. That is not something you just joke about without context. It's tough shit, and I should know.
However, the finale was honestly hilarious. The clash of the titans really shows how the narcissism deranges arguments.
Great video, salutations from Spain. I wish that I could argument as well as you.
How someone can be as narcissistic yet painfully insecure as Annie is is beyond me.
Cleo seems to be a really cool person. Aside from her sense of humor, the fact that she managed to show empathy despite all the horrible insults Annie sent her way is admirable.
Truth being told the insecurity breed narcissism because people glorify themselves to endure such tormenting lives no one else could endure, it is kind of a coping mechanism to not be constantly miserable.
I've seen it more than once, its called twitter artists.
@@stormbringer2840 I think it's kinda depressing how things are bad enough that people can end up that desperate and inside of their own head to the point of just completely losing it like that even if they were being like a gigantic asshole, things shouldn't be bad enough for stuff like this to happen in the first place..
@@dragonicbladex7574 I don’t think things are bad . I think in fact that things are good enough for them to have the option to not deal with reality.
Comfort is not always a good thing .
@@stormbringer2840 idk it seemed like they had some internalised hate from others
Annie is what you get when Volkeh and Snugget do the Fusion Dance.
I'd say it's more like if volke and snowglet had an incest baby then dropped it 80 times on the floor
Hey at least it ain't potara
and yet Volkeh can still throw hands and fucking win.
@@BlandyBoiYT That's why it's the fusion dance, it's a failed fusion like Veku
“You’re so fat you took one selfie and ran out of space”
I’d accept defeat at that one
edit: It’s funny how I got 1.7k likes by quoting Volkeh
How does he come up with those??? Honestly, Volkeh could be such a lyrical genius if only his words didn't reflect his real motives...
>how to talk to a human being
>i'm talking to a walking meat ball
made me lose it
I lost it when local villain of the group Volkeh showed up. They're so off their rocker that their presence alone commands some form of respect.
>Vegetarian
>Fat
ROFL GOOD JOB
is the one that made me lose it
@@kung-borean30 man's got some serious improv skills.
It's like talking to a robot. You give them a huge sequence of information, but they take one keyword from it and amplify it to insanity.
Yeah ive been guilty of this once hope that i can be a better person in the future
It's like that Veggie Tales humor robot. But instead of constantly ending in 'Weed Eater', it's constant bodyshaming, insults, and lots of stuff she'd say is spouted by 'ists' and 'phobes'.
I prefer the former, obviously.
*W E E D E A T E R*
God i love those "there is war, ukrainians dying, iranian women ect ect" arguements, because when you see those you KNOW that they are shaking and crying behind the screen
"There is war, ukranians dying, iranian women getting executed" yet you are having a discord argument instead of focusing on these issues. There's no way to make the "there are bigger problems" argument without being a hypocrite. Then again, she didn't need any help with that.
i find it so ironic that she says that, but is crying because FC said cows, which are herbivores, are still fat
@@zakalot she was too self centered and arrogant to know or even comprehend that, she did mindlessly presumed they were talking about her without even asking for context and then rudely inserted herself into the conversation after all.
@@Nixahma The only situation you can make the "there are bigger problems" argument is when:
1. The problem is imminent, or literally right there
2. You are trying to diffuse, not intensify the argument
3. You are not on the internet
So for example, if there is a war elephant charging towards you and the Karen wont shut up, you should probably point that out
But yeh, this argument is 99% used for bs situations like this
As an Iranian woman, just being mentioned by someone like that is... ugh. To be honest, I'd rather westerners in general not mention us. Always used for strawman arguments.
Honestly, greatest respects to Cleophoebs for staying as calm as she was during this whole thing. Not everyone would react so civil, considering all that shit that got thrown at her.
Also, a Metal Gear Rising reference was the last thing I would have expected from FC here.
YOU’RE BATSHIT INSANE does describe both senator armstrong and annie perfectly!
can you give me the timestamp on where he made it?
24:36 You're welcome.
"I was wrong about you. You're not greedy."
Me: _"DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT FC"_
"I was wrong about you. You're not meaty.."
...
"You taste like cocaine!!!"
Telling someone to not work out because they should be proud of who they are is like Telling someone to keep drinking because they're fun when they drink.
Holy shit, Volkeh's actually making me cackle almost every second he's on-screen. Is this bad?
Not at all. It's a great example of _actual_ dark comedy; It's not what his behavior that's funny, it's how much of a perfect _foil_ to Annie he's being.
@@LendriMujina This is the first time I've seen someone using italics in a youtube comment section. Just thought it was interesting.
@@LB-mo1dc really? I use them rather often! Usually for setting up actions for quick script style dialogue.
(Ex. Character: i’m out of here! _runs off into the horizon_ ) admitedly using bold works too but something it can be a bit of an eyesore.
Volkeh in the right place at the right time is just pure comedic gold.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 There is formatting for italics? What is it?
If Volkeh is the clown emoji, Annie is the circus tent emoji.
She is the whole circus, not just in hilarity but in size. (And remember, that's her admission.)
@@frank_calvert she'd be the clown car if they had a bus
@@roshivvymegido9178 💀💀💀
(Damn, that's a good one)
@@roshivvymegido9178 I dont even think the clown car can fit her.
So Volkeh's inside her? 💀💀💀
Id like to point out, that bodyshaming is a thing. I do have a thicker body, because I am thicker my weight may look 'fatter' in the numbers than I actually am.
I was in middle school, 6th grade. Ten years old, and my gym teacher who wouldnt let me exercise due to the fact I didn't have a uniform. Called me way overweight. And that fucked with my mental health so much, it made me have a binge and starve myself.
Of course, then sophmore year, my teacher had a obesity chart that stated I was obese. (5'3 163. Most of them are in the curves) and that I should be 110. Something my mom who is built skinnier then me can't even do.
So yes, bodyshaming is a bad thing that affects the youth. But glorfying obesity is always bodyshaming. Shaming someone for being skinnier is bad, and makes people want to overeat and get an ED from it.
People are stupid, as much as we want to admit we are smart. Everyone has a dumb moment and some are dumber than others.
BMI charts really don't work. They can give you a general idea of where you should be, but don't take into account things like muscle being denser than fat.
@Billie King BMI charts have indeed called me dead a few times. Right now I'm barely above the underweight category.
5'3 163 is big even for a built man of that height. Like, built muscular dudes at that height would only be maybe 140 or so. It's not morbidly obese, but regardless of your genetics it should definitely be much lower for what would be considered healthy levels. There's no such thing as "most of them are in the curves". That's just fat, the same as being overweight normally.
I don't type this to make fun of someone having been overweight. I just wanted to address the idea that having a "thicker body" could cause your healthy weight to vary that drastically. There's about 30 lbs of variance for a healthy weight (unless you're a power lifter or something, but these are niche exceptions) and there's no such thing as being "big boned" or anything like that with regards to affecting what the healthy weight range is. 163 is far outside that range.
Note that 163 at 5'3 is just overweight, though. Not obese. I have no idea what was up with that teacher's chart. 110 is within the healthy range, but in the middle. So one could be like 20 lbs heavier than that and still not be overweight.
Oh no, I agree. I just personally wanted to point out how some people think of weight is. 160 pounds was not healthy, and I should've gotten my weight checked sooner/diet.
I did lose 20 pounds, and I'm quite happy right now.
I almost said "I can sympathize with Annie - I was like her when I was younger too" and then she just kept fucking _going._ Even in the depths of my wallowing, I have never been this hypocritical.
@BitterOrange
She said that she lost 33 kilos, not that she is 33.
@@SteveCrafts2k it could be both
@@jaybrosbarber2751 She got a fuckin' philosophy degree so I'm leaning in this direction too.
in short: Annie was, in fact, NOT okay.
Now this is an underrated comment
Annie was, in fact, THE OPPOSITE OF OK
She was hit by
She was struck by
A smooth criminal
@@sherlockisverytired3169and got BIG DAMAGED
the ironic thing was she said he was a hypocrite but she was contradicting herself the whole entire session
@Billie King There's not a single man who hasn't been shamed, either.
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 Fr, this vid is literally Exhibit A
Seeing volkeh come out of nowhere and fight fire with fire put the biggest smile on my face. Its like when the final boss of the previous game joins the party to help defeat a tougher villain
More like the Final Boss showing up to stomp someone who said THEY were the final boss because he was offended at the insinuation that they could possibly take his place
Except the villain is just doing that to prove he's nastier.
literally bowser vs dark bowser
You're not greedy
Annie: am i finally getting through ?
You're BAT SHITE INSAAAAAANE.
I don't think FC can martial arts her
The moment FC said “you’re not greedy” I knew where it was going lmao
Love that he referenced MGR
My only complaint is that it’s weirdly jarring for you and Cleo to be in the courtroom while Annie isn’t, felt like everyone was weirdly separated even though they were talking
Like, I kept picturing everyone standing on either side of the courtroom door and talking/shouting lmao
It was really nice to see a proper 2v1 for the duration of the conversation tho, especially loved the detail of you and Cleo being next to each other
I decided to keep her out of the room because that way she seems like an angry Karen shouting at some people from outside the building, which is how it felt when she started shouting at us for a conversation that had nothing to do with her, in a server that wasn’t hers, banning us from a server we hadn’t been to in a while.
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence just be honest, the courtroom cant fit annie.
@@dekudeku5520 woah man
People are separated and switch sides show who opposes who on the topic at hand. That’s why people like Bowl and Harry will appear in 3 places during the same video. And why two or more people can take the Prosecution and Defense seats at one particular time
As the topic changes their allegiance changes too. But Annie was so consistently out of pocket that she stayed outside the Courtroom. As nothing she said had any place in the original discussion they were having.
Meanwhile Volkeh took the Witness Stand as he’s apparently just been watching all of this chaos unfold. And sits looking down upon everyone else.
@@dekudeku5520 Oh damn
My guy put that shit on god
Fucking ***THANK YOU*** for putting it bluntly. Just because someone wants to be physically fit or stay in shape, it does NOT make them fatphobic!
Also, I question if Annie got her degree in psychology through bribery, or if whoever gave her the degree is a complete and utter moron, because *whew*. Perhaps she did to them what she didn't do to you: sit on them.
I only just found out people are actually getting mad over this. The fact that people think that maintaining a healthy lifestyle is the same as hating on people who are a bit more curvy, made me lose even more faith in the internet.
@@Annorach I lose an abnormal amount of neurons on the internet I think I'm regenerating them
@Billie King I find it a bit difficult to believe anyone is "naturally" big, no disrespect intended. It can be *easier* for some to become fat compared to others, but *Naturally* big just seems like a big stretch to me, pardon the pun. The only way to really gain weight is to eat or drink and *not* exercise as much as needed in order to maintain a body physique, as far as I'm aware. Being born fat from the start doesn't exactly make much sense to me.
Honestly, with how much Annie was using mental gymnastics, I am surprised that this conversation even happened
Well, there's no chance of her doing physical gymnastics.
I 👏hate 👏when 👏people👏 type 👏like 👏this. The emojis don’t make it a better argument.
It’s cute how FC defends Cleo and how cleo defends FC.
They're in LOVE!
FC AND CLEO SITTING IN A TREE, K I S S I N G!!
They’re such great friends, it’s awesome to watch. Hope they stay friends for a long time, it’s good that they have support and are doing well.
They're the most based duo, aside from Goblin and Gringo. Love watching them all!
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623
Please do not ship real people
@@astraesl9547 My brother in christ that is a joke if you didn't notice
Wh- what? Annie has a PHILOSOPHY degree and she's that insane??? Thinking everything revolves around her and seeing insults towards her where there's literally nothing... How... What the hell 😭😭
If that wasn’t a cry for attention, idk what is.
with her having a god damn philosophy degree you'd expect her to have a grasp on ideas like enkrateia
Philosophy has a tendency to attract insane people. I personally think this is because they think this can give them insight and perspective on their problems which currently eludes them.
Sometimes it results people like Kierkegaard reviewing their issues as personal failings.
Sometime it results Mill's viewing life as an equation.
Sometimes it produces distilled de-humanising insanity like Althusser.
Have you looked at most philosophers histories? They're either batahit insane, depressed, weird or sometime, somewhat sane. Some times.
Lunatics tend to believe that that they're philosophers
"Maybe she isn't actually racist, maybe she just acts like this when she's hungry" LMAOOO 😭
I have regained so many brain cells from watching your videos
The level of victim mentality is astonishing here. I didn't think it could be possible to have such low regard for one's self, but she clearly proved me wrong.
Every Video Phoebs has showed up in as a major player in whatever is being debated is an instant classic, she's surprisingly smart
Why is it surprising? Not an accusation, genuinely confused.
@@doublereel-real I would assume in the way most people are not as clever as them, and they are comparably more emotionaley intelligent than most people in these videos, and just emotionaley intelligent in general.
@@brightshadow80 Case in point: Bowl. Love him as a troll, dislike him as a person
@@brightshadow80 yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking, phoebs is a lot just generally smarter than a lot of people out there nowadays, and its downright refreshing
@@doublereel-real It's surprising because not only is she a woman, she's also not British. While obviously she could never reach the level of Bowl, or even Harry, the fact that she is roughly equal to the froggie is shocking to say the least.
“While I understand that you’re often criticized for putting too much shit in your mouth, that is not an excuse to put shit into mine.”
Holy cow, I sincerely hope that this is written verbatim. I would’ve died.
Did you just say cow that's so fatphobic sexist homophobic transphobic (insert 50 other phobics) - Annie probably if she saw this
"While I understand that you're often criticized for putting too much shit into your mouth, I will have you know that's not an excuse to start putting shit into mine." is such a banger of a comeback, good lord.
FC had like 5 bomb comebacks this video
Honestly this was kind of wholesome in a way, having FC and Phoebe standing up for each other
I knoww, that's definitely not common in these videos. It was nice.
Especially having them literally on the same side, had the same energy as when Phoenix and Edgeworth team up in-game
The new outfit that kay wore is alo looks good on her. Heck i want ace attorney with Phoenix wright and Kay Faraday teams up now. Its easy to set up really, just make edgeworth in trouble
31:14 my question is how the fuck did volkeh manage to fit murder racism and cannibalism into one sentence 💀
We're talking about Volkeh.
The man is the CEO of all bad things that exist
His power is beyond our mortal understanding
My theory is that he said that we should murder fat people and give them to Africans to eat, because they are cannibals in racist stereotypes.
Seeing as it's Volkeh, the answer is simply....
With ease.
I'm completely sure that I don't want to know the answer to that question.
Volkeh is like that one lv. 100 dude that joins your team at random, speedruns the entire mission for you, then leaves right before he gets the rewards.
rewards are below him, he lives to roast
Roasting is the reward
"It's not always about the money, Faux Cares. IT'S ABOUT THE [Long tirade of racial slurs]"
@@LordTyph ITS ABOUT BEING A [BIG SHOT]
@@PizaTab if spamton was an extremist he would 100% be a right-wing extremist so this fits
The moment Volkeh joins, you know things about to get ugly
But seems like this time he found his match lmao
The titans of narcissism, would make for a good novel
In all seriousness, the concept of fatphobia is dumb, not only because it sounds made up but also because what defines it (i don't even know if it has a definition) is impossible to know
Volkeh is the prick that we all despise and at the same time aspire to be
If just by presenting yourself, you strike fear in others, you've achieved maximum douchery.
I love how Volkeh says
">Vegetarian
>Fat"
And then the animation for after that roast is Atmey laughing like the psycho he is.
Love the video
For anyone wondering, this video was uploaded earlier today, but it had an error where some frames would freeze for about a whole minute. We apologize for the inconvenience.
You are forgiven
classic youtube
did you update the sprites? cause they look great
@@rellort4362 There will be more to come ;)
the ultimate fight
I *LOVE* when Volkeh menacingly appeared and started fighting Fire with Fire,
the only way possible since logic won't pierce through pure ignorance.
Also, gotta compliment Phoebe.PNG's new look!
I had an argument like this once irl, I ended up becoming the strange middle way between FC and Volkeh, actually giving a lot of the same arguments (my brother studies P.E. and won't shut up about it, but you learn a lot of useful stuff for arguments like these) and mixing the Volkeh slurs.
Including this gem I want to share bc I was just as tired as FC by the end of it.
"Oh, sorry, I don't speak Ravioli Genocide. If you fall from a chair you fall from both sides at the same time"
Honestly I don’t get how anybody in this video could be fat after the incredible amount of mental gymnastics. This is a complete workout
@Billie King were you in the video
Can we all take a moment to appreciate the irony of Annie having the Warden as her character, Cleo's new Kay outfit, and the use of Professor Layton vs Phœnix Wright ost?
Also, I know it's not a problem of weight, but of narcissism in the end, but I would like to talk about weight, with my personal experience:
Since I got some problems in my ears when I was a baby (I know, weird cause for that effect) I haven't eaten fruits nor vegetables aside from potatoes and carrots. There have been attempts, but both ended up in failure (I even near immediately vomitted with the beans). And it's been like that ever since.
I also would want to add that I don't eat eggs when they're not in cakes or other pastries or in îles flottantes, nor am I a sport liking guy, far from it even. And I'm not priviledged, that I know so when I look at the men of my mother's side of the family.
BUT I only have a little belly that even got some melted off, or I guess relocated, as I grew up.
People haven't shamed me for that small belly, and I frequently cross paths with people of my age with biggers bellies than mine. And they looked as healthy at their levels that I am at mine, which is pretty good. Also, since those people are French like me, I don't think it's a reason of French portions being smaller than the 'Murican size.
But what determines that I'm fat or that a person would be obese to begin with?
The BMI.
Which is flawed, you can search that up on the internet. But there isn't an official other measurement yet, so it's still used. Even if it would measure, for example, Joe Wilfried Tsonga, a tennis player (he was the one taken for example when I first read about the failure of the BMI, and it stuck), at 25 and some, putting him in the fat but not obese category, when he's clearly not!
And since BMI was the golden rule for a long time, of course society would have implicitly taken it to promote what was trending at the time.
All that to say, everyone got their comfortable weight, and as long as it's not in the obese category it should be fine, and the final step is to not care for people at their respective good weight.
Also, Volkeh's usefull arc by making his stupidity useful by keeping Annie occupied and giving a show to FC and Cleo? Sign me the fuck up!
holy shit, thank you for acknowledging how stupid the BMI is. i actually had problems with being *under*weight due to some meds i was taking that were severely suppressing my appetite. i felt like absolute shit, and was 100% malnourished, but according to the BMI i was within normal ranges. so that's what my doctor kept telling me, despite the fact that i wasn't losing fat, i was losing muscle. i know why it's used, and it does have a purpose, but fuck the BMI.
Honestly I never thought I’d ever say this but I kinda agree with volkeh’s approach. “If you knew how to handle a …… then she would be gone by now”.
It’s strange but while I commend FC and Cleo for remaining logical and well, diplomatic through the whole thing at some point you have to realize that your logic and objective correctness don’t mean anything to someone who won’t listen “the pen may be mightier than the sword, but only against opponents who can read”
And also only if the opponents want to read
That last line honestly really fits.
At that point, you use its mightiest feature: Write a check for a sword.
"You can't handle the existence of a heavy woman."
Ohhh, so that's why in Spanish we call annoying people like her *PESADAS*
That closing line of "Those two deserve each other" sums it up rather nicely. Body shaming is a completely abhorrent act, but when a victim decides to perpetuate the cycle, any sympathy they otherwise deserved goes out of the window.
I can understand and agree with feeling sympathetic and empathetic towards the fact that "Anne" had been bullied over her lack of fitness, but when she chose to participate and become a bully herself, there is no excuse for her. In a sense, she is almost worse than the people who first bullied her, since she knows how horrible bullying feels for the victim and decided to perpetrate the act anyway.
get replied to
@@slawomirdrapinski4538 oh no, a reply
Faux's face when Volkeh enters is hilarious.
Very well said.
Ok , i'll give my experience : i've been bullied in hs and the truly rancid part is that bullying sticks with you , you almost start hearing their voices in your head , you get back into those events and you can in the wors times feel almost defined entirely by the thing they where bullying you for ,
Bullying can cause mental damages , and those don't go away easily ,
I honestly hope annie seeks mental health therapy because that is seriusly debilitating , thinking pepole who talk abt cows are talking about you is serius stuff ...
''>Vegetarian''
''>Fat''
''ROFL''
Im not on volkeh side but that shit was funny as hell
After seeing the thumbnail I dreaded whatever Volkeh had written... But by the end of this video... Never in this life time I would had believed, I would be glad of him and his "comments"... Really... Those two are crazy... And Bowl's basedness was missed.
just realized how Annie's sentences start with "I" or mention her within the sentence, as if anything was about her and her alone.
@Billie King exactly.
@Billie King I wish you well on your journey for a healthier lifestyle. my dad is thick boned so even when he was skinny (unhealthily skinny, even) he looked a bit big and my family is genetically prone to insuline resistance, so I get what you mean.
my best wishes for you and hopefully you'll be able to fulfill your goal.
@Billie King anytime!
Cool conversation :)
@@sonetagu1337 yeah
For the entire video I was thinking to myself "thank god Volkeh isn't around," and then lo and behold:
I'm a fat guy. I have tried many diets and I do many sports but the diets never work, only the sports help. However, the doctors say I'm healthy so I have accepted my appearance and my weight and made of it all the positivity that I could. But I was very insecure before. I don't think this wasn't obvious before but from experience I can say she is definitely projecting.
She tends to also dodge the arguments and jumps at every mention of the existence of grease as proof of fatphobia.
as long as you are not overboarding out of your own clothes and heaving from walking a couple meters you're good.
@@tomasfong40 yeah apart from what fhe doctors say I can run and jump and play my favorite sports I just have a bit of a belly. Honestly not even pot belly just sticks out a bit
@@ranguntnt8732 That's fine then, I knew a guy in secondary school who outran our years fastest runner and he was one of the most rotund looking people I knew.
Unless you have some medical condition where your body stores fat when its supposed to using those calories, you literally have to just have a calorie. Defecit. Its the law of thermodynamics. Your body will have to burn the fat or you'd die
FC, your burns this episode are epic! I also admire Cleo's attitude, she really seems like a good person. Your content is awesome, keep going chief!
Glad you enjoyed it!
"Who cares about you being so fat when you're so dense" is a next level insult XD
???: Oh, you’re a villain, just not a super one.
Annie: Oh yeah? What’s the difference?
Volkeh, appearing out of fucking nowhere: PRESENTATION!
Volkeh popping out of thin air was like that anime villain from the first seasons coming out to help the protagonists against a bigger foe (literally). Truly a masterpiece 10/10
"THIS is how you handle things!"
This is like if Twitter and 4Chan converged into a singular entety to then have a chaotic entrance of a separate entety comprised of the previous entety's characteristics + Reddit + League of Legends with a side dish of chaos.
The fact both you and Phoebs handled this relatively well says about how much both of you have had to deal with this kind of people before multiple times.
Bravo to the both of you for keeping your cool.
Cleo’s quote “it’s the Twitter warrior vs the 4Channer” perfectly summarizes this comment. Honestly I probably would have flipped my shit after the first 5 minutes of the argument. Ridiculous patience (or stubbornness depending on who you ask) was something I did not know some Frenchies have but damn Cleo and FC prove it is very real.
this was legitimately hard to watch, but seeing volkeh appear was definitely worth it. good job on handling that woman tho, that looked tough
This, my fellow people, is what we call a 'closet femcel'.
NO GUYS BUT THE ''Imagine a frenchman makes a prettier gal than you'' WAS ABSOLUTE PEAK
the first 30 seconds of Volkeh's introduction was probably the most hilarious bit of conversation ive ever seen
Volkeh's appearance here still leaves me speechless.
Truly unprecedented... Yet so needed.
I love how Celo was trying to descalate things whilst FC was basically tossing gasoline on the fire by going out of his way to piss annie off more while still debunking her bullshit claims. I wish I was as brave and as petty as the froggy
Dude, I lost my freaking mind when Volkeh appeared. 🤣
The guy is like Uncle Ruckus. He's so funny because he's so insanely awful. It's just that awfulness was directed toward something awful as well. Lpl
Volkeh suddenly showing up is like that moment, when main villain appears to beat side villain.
>Wants to decide how they treat their body
>Doesn't matter
>Someone else decides the same
>"fatphobic"